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The media lied again about JAN6th as only 8% of Capitol rioters wanted an insurrection contrary to the JAN6 committee. Many rioters believe they were defending DEMOCRACY! · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: There is a new Harvard study that actually says that
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Speaker 1: only eight percent of Capitol rioters quote wanted an insurrection.
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Speaker 1: That's why they weren't loaded and didn't have weapons and
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Speaker 1: weren't shooting anybody because no one was planning on having
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Speaker 1: an insurrection. Well, I say no one. Ninety two percent
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Speaker 1: of people there had no intention of there being an insurrection.
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Speaker 1: In fact, the only person was shot was an unarmed
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Speaker 1: woman by a Capital police officer. But this new comprehensive
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Speaker 1: selty by hardcore leftists Harvard University of the motivations of
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Speaker 1: those who participate in the January sixth quote riot at
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Speaker 1: the US Capital founded, only eight percent wanted to start
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Speaker 1: an insurrectionur civil war. Contrary to the claims by the
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Speaker 1: January sixth committee, the Harvard Crimson has now reported quote
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Speaker 1: in the most recent comprehensive study to date of what
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Speaker 1: motivated they say, Trump supporters to attack the capital. The
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Speaker 1: Shorenstein Center research found that twenty point six percent of
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Speaker 1: the rioters were motivated to take part in the right
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Speaker 1: because they supported Trump. Another twenty point six percent of
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Speaker 1: the writers sighted Trump's fraudulent claims that the twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: presidential election was rigged as their primary reason for participating
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Speaker 1: in the January sixth riot. The third, they say most
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Speaker 1: common reason for attacking the capitol a desire to start
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Speaker 1: civil war or an armed revolution. According to study, the
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Speaker 1: problem was they weren't armed. Almost eight percent of defendants
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Speaker 1: defendants so these are people being charged in the actual riots,
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Speaker 1: indicated it was their main motivation. So, in other words,
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Speaker 1: it wasn't. Ninety two percent of them said it wasn't. Now,
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Speaker 1: these are the people that have been charged of crimes. Okay,
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Speaker 1: this isn't even the people that showed up for the
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Speaker 1: rally that didn't go down there, or maybe it went
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Speaker 1: down walked down to the Capitol and then all of
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Speaker 1: this broke out right. An interview, Fagin said he was
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Speaker 1: surprised by how frequently support for Trump and concerns about
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Speaker 1: the election were site as primary motivations for joining the
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Speaker 1: January sixth quote attack on the Capitol. As a constitutional
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Speaker 1: law scholar Jonathan Turley has pointed out, the study suggests
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Speaker 1: that many of the participants in the riot believed, rightly
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Speaker 1: or wrongly, that they were defending democracy, not trying to
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Speaker 1: overthrow it. The study found that a plurality of the
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Speaker 1: four hundred and seventeen that had been federally charged. These
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Speaker 1: defendants were motivated by quote the lies about election fraud
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Speaker 1: and enthusiasm for his reelection. It concluded that the documents
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Speaker 1: show that Trump and his allies convinced an unquantifiable number
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Speaker 1: government spy on Donald Trump? Yes? Did the United States
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Speaker 1: things that never happened like Russian collision? Yes? Did the
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Speaker 1: deep state know that Hillary Clinton paid for the Steele
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Speaker 1: dossier and the DNC Democrat National Committee paid for that dossier? Yes?
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Speaker 1: Did they say early on that the Steal dossier was
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Speaker 1: clearly quote user created, meaning the person that brought it
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Speaker 1: to us is the one who made it up. Yes,
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Speaker 1: they classified it. Did they then weaponize the Steal dossier
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Speaker 1: to try to overthrow the will of the people? Yes?
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Speaker 1: Is it clear now that they also have two sets
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Speaker 1: of rules in this country, rules for Republicans and then
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Speaker 1: another set of rules for Democrats where they can do
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Speaker 1: whatever the hell they want to, like an insider trading
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Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi and her husband, many other Democrats and some
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Speaker 1: Republicans that have done that. Is it clear that Joe
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Speaker 1: Biden and his family were able to whore out America
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Speaker 1: to the highest communist bidder and not have to worry
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Speaker 1: about prosecution. Is it fair to say now that the
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Speaker 1: United States government allows for Democrats to play by different
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Speaker 1: set of rules with suspicious activities in their bank accounts.
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Speaker 1: Is it fair to say now that in the United
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Speaker 1: States of America, if you are a Republican, you can
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Speaker 1: go to jail for not even committing a crime, but
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Speaker 1: being framed for those crimes around, for example, January sixth,
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Speaker 1: and be charged with crimes and be held without a
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Speaker 1: jury trial, and be put in prison for an extended
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Speaker 1: period of time because you're at the wrong place at
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Speaker 1: the wrong time. The answers, Yes, The answers just to
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Speaker 1: all of what I just said. And one of the
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Speaker 1: things that I think is incredibly frustrating about everything that
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Speaker 1: I just mentioned to you is that this administration gets
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Speaker 1: to play by a different set of rules than we
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Speaker 1: play by. And everybody knows it, folks, including those in
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Speaker 1: the deep state. So when people say they're concerned and
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Speaker 1: they think that this country and I go back to
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Speaker 1: this report, right, many of the people involved in January
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Speaker 1: sixth thought that they were defending democracy in the United
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Speaker 1: States and said that our democracy was not was not
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Speaker 1: only in decline, but an imminent existential danger. Can you
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Speaker 1: understand why? Look at Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation,
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Speaker 1: follow the money, thinking of us could get away with
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Speaker 1: that while you're mean, Look at not forget that. Look
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Speaker 1: at Hillary Clinton in the amount of cash that was
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Speaker 1: coming in before you could even get her attention while
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Speaker 1: she was Secretary of State. Look At how much money
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Speaker 1: dried up after she lost that run for the White House.
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Speaker 1: Look At how the Clinton Foundation was basically shut down
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Speaker 1: because the game was over Look at this email server.
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Speaker 1: She can have emails on a server interbasement that her
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Speaker 1: top secret and no one gets in trouble, and then
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Speaker 1: she can literally burn that server to make sure that
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Speaker 1: she doesn't get in trouble. You understand why people think
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Speaker 1: that there's a real threat to our democracy in the
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Speaker 1: United States of America. Right now, there's another instant headline
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Speaker 1: right now, Republicans on track to win two hundred and
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Speaker 1: thirty house seats. A new CBS model predicts this is
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Speaker 1: exactly why. Now this is CBS saying this. Okay, they say,
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Speaker 1: and this is coming from CBS News tonight they put
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Speaker 1: this out saying Republicans are on track to win a
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Speaker 1: clear majority of two hundred and thirty seats in the
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Speaker 1: House of Representatives this November, according to this new Battleground
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Speaker 1: Tracker model that was released Sunday evening. The Battleground Tracker
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Speaker 1: takes a district by district approach to analyzing races and
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Speaker 1: measuring public opinion. Since control of Congress is won across
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Speaker 1: hundreds of individual elections, not by national popular vote, CBS
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Speaker 1: explains this is significant. Some Democrats have expressed hope that
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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade and ending
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Speaker 1: the constitutional right to an abortion could steal some of
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Speaker 1: the GOP's momentum, But it seems as though high inflation
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Speaker 1: in the normal rhythm of election cycles are handicaps too big,
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Speaker 1: too large for Democrats to overcome. Now, what this would
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Speaker 1: mean is that Republicans would have sixteen seats, more than
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Speaker 1: they needed to take control of the House. And to
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Speaker 1: get the House, all you need is to eighteen to
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Speaker 1: control it. We would have two thirty. They predicted, net
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Speaker 1: gain of nineteen seats Republicans. It's far higher than the
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Speaker 1: seven additional seats the GPE needs to secure a majority. Democrats,
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Speaker 1: who currently hold two hundred twenty seats, can only afford
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Speaker 1: a net loss of two seats, and it looks like
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Speaker 1: there's no chance that's not going to happen. Now. The
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Speaker 1: model of error they say has a margin of twelve seats.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the Republicans are projected to be between two
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Speaker 1: and two forty two. Even on the low end of
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Speaker 1: the range, Republicans would still emerge from the midterms of
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Speaker 1: control of the House. This is why the American people
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Speaker 1: are responding in the way they are to this administration,
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Speaker 1: because they don't feel like they feel like the game
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Speaker 1: is rigged. When you look at the Hunter Biden issue,
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Speaker 1: when you look at Senator Johnson saying you can't trust
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Speaker 1: the FBI to get the bottom of the Hunter Biden
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Speaker 1: issue because of everything that's happened, When you look at
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Speaker 1: a present that's so weak that we're having American is
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Speaker 1: being taken in Russia and there, and people are using
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Speaker 1: American citizens as political pawns. People don't like it in America.
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Speaker 1: You even have foreign leaders now saying enough of Joe Biden.
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Speaker 1: Foreign leaders are now saying it. China is now saying
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Speaker 1: that about Joe Biden. You want to know just how
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Speaker 1: bad foreign relations are under President Biden, this is just
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Speaker 1: an example. You got a sign of just how weak
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Speaker 1: America is right now by just looking at how fast
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Speaker 1: the relations between China and the United States are falling.
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Speaker 1: Right now, we can't even agree on what our own
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Speaker 1: leaders said to each other in a conversation. Two very
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Speaker 1: different versions of one telephone call are now coming out.
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Speaker 1: The White House is insisting right now that Joe Biden
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Speaker 1: scolded Chinese President ge about force labor and genocide and
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Speaker 1: evolving Muslims in this country. China says that's fake news
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Speaker 1: and that the Biden never raised either topic during the
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Speaker 1: call between the two men. Now here's the part that
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Speaker 1: I think is very interesting about this story. I don't
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Speaker 1: think that Joe Biden's gold did anybody. Let's just be honest.
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Speaker 1: China's official read out of the call says its leaders
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Speaker 1: warned against how Speaker Nancy Pelosi's planned to visit Taiwan
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Speaker 1: during a trip to the region, saying those who play
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Speaker 1: with fire will perish by it, basically threatening an assassination
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Speaker 1: of the third in command of the United States government.
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Speaker 1: An officials leader suggest that visit would be seen as
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Speaker 1: an invasion of China itself, quote unquote. In response to questions,
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Speaker 1: a White else press secretary declined to confirm or deny
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Speaker 1: that Gez said anything of the sword about Pelosi, adding
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to speak to that statement. So what's
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Speaker 1: the truth. Did Biden deliver on his promise to stand
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Speaker 1: up for human rights? Is probably not, because they've got
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Speaker 1: a lot of dirt on us. Well, at least, I
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Speaker 1: should say the Biden crime family. You really think that
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, who just sold oil to a Chinese communist
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Speaker 1: oil company controlled by the state, which is sudden apparently
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Speaker 1: still has a financial interest in and he does as
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Speaker 1: well because ten percent held for the big guy, is
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Speaker 1: going to get on a phone call and start reading,
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, shouting and really telling the Chinese leader,
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Speaker 1: you know, here's what you can do with your human rights.
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Speaker 1: And if you look at the read out here from China,
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Speaker 1: China effectively threatened War War three if Pelosi goes ahead
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Speaker 1: with a visit to Taiwan, which is now having to
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Speaker 1: practice air raid drills. That's how far we've fallen as
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Speaker 1: a country under Biden's leadership. I don't really have to
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Speaker 1: guess who said what about what on this phone call,
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Speaker 1: because I already know that America's weak and China is strong.
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Speaker 1: And if you don't stand up to bullies, or you
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Speaker 1: can't because you're compromised because of your and you and
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Speaker 1: your family's corrupt business dealers in China, which I do
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Speaker 1: believe that the Bidens are clearly compromised, and the FBI
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Speaker 1: won't tell us that, or in the State Department won't
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Speaker 1: tell us that, and see A won't tell us that
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Speaker 1: because they hate Donald Trump and conservatives so much that
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Speaker 1: they refuse to look at the crimes that have been
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Speaker 1: committed by the Biden crime family. By the way, it
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Speaker 1: didn't have to be this way at all, and obvious
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Speaker 1: solutions for the White House to actually release portions of
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Speaker 1: the call transcript that relate to those issues, but they
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Speaker 1: won't because I think probably the Bidens are blackmailed by
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Speaker 1: China right now. The fact is that this suggests that
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Speaker 1: Biden is not playing straight with the American people, because
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Speaker 1: if you were playing it straight with the American people,
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Speaker 1: then you should have nothing to hide, and you would
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Speaker 1: release the transcripts to show them that you did what
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Speaker 1: you claimed you did because there'd be no downside this
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Speaker 1: unless you didn't do it, unless you are in fact
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Speaker 1: lying to the American people. And I have no reason
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Speaker 1: to believe he's telling us the truth at this moment. Now,
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Speaker 1: these issues do present very important elements of our foreign policy.
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Speaker 1: Number One, Taiwan matters. It is critical, It is absolutely
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Speaker 1: critical to our foreign policy. We know that China as
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Speaker 1: clear as a desire to gobble up the island democracy,
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Speaker 1: and it's frequent invasion simulations mark a new problem, a
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Speaker 1: new alarm for our allies, our Asian allies, especially Japan
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Speaker 1: and South Korea, if we allow Taiwan to go to China.
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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people in America like I
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Speaker 1: don't have an appetite for this. So if they want
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Speaker 1: to do it, let them do it. And that's exactly
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Speaker 1: what we said during World War one, oh War two.
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Speaker 1: Isn't it right? Like just let let Hitler keep going right,
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Speaker 1: It's not us. At some point, it's gonna be us
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Speaker 1: at some point, it's going to be at our doorsteps.
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Speaker 1: At some point it's going to happen. Right, This idea
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Speaker 1: that you can just look the other way and continue
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Speaker 1: to look the other way and Oh, that's over there.
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Speaker 1: It's not my problem. At some point it becomes your problem.
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Speaker 1: It's a big problem. China has total control over us
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Speaker 1: right now, and we should all understand that not only
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Speaker 1: does China have total control over our economy right now,
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Speaker 1: they have a ton of our debt. That's one of
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Speaker 1: the problems. And one of the other problems outside of
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Speaker 1: the debt is the problem that they also control our
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Speaker 1: economy with their goods and services. You can't even go
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Speaker 1: shopping anymore without the majority of the things you come
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Speaker 1: back from from any basic store saying made in what China.
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Speaker 1: We need China more than China's us right now, and
15:38
Speaker 1: they know it, and they're using it to advantage. But
15:40
Speaker 1: they also know they can bully us right now, and
15:43
Speaker 1: they can bully us right now because the president United
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Speaker 1: States of America is so weak. I have no doubt
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Speaker 1: that they're probably telling the truth that the President did
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Speaker 1: not get in the face of China. Why on earth
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Speaker 1: would he do that right now? He has no leverage,
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Speaker 1: And if he was going to get in their face,
15:58
Speaker 1: then he would have done it probably and not sold
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Speaker 1: them oil to the company that his son has a
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Speaker 1: vested interest in. That's how much I think they own us,
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Speaker 1: and they are they own the Biden crime family. US policy,
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Speaker 1: by the way, about Taiwan's status has been labeled strategic
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Speaker 1: and strategically you know, looking at it as well, we're
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Speaker 1: not really sure. Biden has caused confusion about what America
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Speaker 1: would do in response to a Chinese invasion. On three
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Speaker 1: earlier occasions, he said America would defend Taiwan militarily if
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Speaker 1: China invaded, and three times White House AIDS have walked
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Speaker 1: back those statements, saying that was not US policy, which
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Speaker 1: is limited to selling Taiwan equipment to defend itself. Yet
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Speaker 1: now it seems that a mere visit by Pelosius grounds
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Speaker 1: for Chinese threats of military action and invasion. And if
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Speaker 1: in fact she said anything suggesting as much on the call,
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Speaker 1: then China has unilaterally changed the rules of the agreement,
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Speaker 1: the arrangement that was promised with everything that we've done
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Speaker 1: with them promising war for America does not comply with
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Speaker 1: their demands. That's where we are with China right now.
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Speaker 1: Because Nancy Pelosi might go visit Taiwan, Pentagon, by the way,
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Speaker 1: is already ready to back up plan for Nancy Pelosi's
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Speaker 1: Taiwan trip is China's raging. Quote. That's a monumental event,
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Speaker 1: which is why it's imperative that the American public know
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Speaker 1: not only what the Chinese president said, but exactly how
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Speaker 1: Biden responded to it. One possibility is the President Pelosi
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Speaker 1: wouldn't make the visit. Wouldn't be surprising, given that Biden
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Speaker 1: sad days ago that a stop in Taiwan was quote
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Speaker 1: not a good idea. There also reports the administration privately
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Speaker 1: urged or skip Taiwan on the trip, which began on Friday,
17:56
Speaker 1: because they wanted to make sure they didn't have an
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Speaker 1: Internet national incident. GOP Center Mitch McConnell actually says this week,
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Speaker 1: and I give him credit when he says something that's smart.
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Speaker 1: He said, letting China dictate the terms of what an
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Speaker 1: American official can do going to one of our allies
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Speaker 1: would be a victory of sorts for the communist nation.
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Speaker 1: Now the anya has been raised, and for Biden to
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Speaker 1: back down the face of public threats would be an
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Speaker 1: even more significant sign of American weakness. Moreover, quote, a
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Speaker 1: cancelation the visit would amount to a slap of Taiwan
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Speaker 1: and its people. It would also tell China can restrict
18:36
Speaker 1: where top American officials are free to travel in that
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Speaker 1: part of the world. So what actually took place on
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Speaker 1: that phone call this week is is a very big deal,
18:48
Speaker 1: not just in terms of US China relations and the
18:51
Speaker 1: security in that part of the region. But the White
18:54
Speaker 1: House refusal to come clean suggest the truth is not
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Speaker 1: Biden's friend, because if Biden did what their claiming that,
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Speaker 1: they would release it. The other question is blackmail. I
19:08
Speaker 1: don't know how you can separate this lie from suspicions
19:12
Speaker 1: that Biden is arly compromised when it comes to dealing
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Speaker 1: with China. Is an undisputed fact that his son Hunter Biden,
19:21
Speaker 1: his brother Jim Biden, and other longtime family associates received
19:25
Speaker 1: more than eleven million from a Chinese conglomerate would tie
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Speaker 1: the Communist Party. Joe Biden was vice president when that
19:33
Speaker 1: arrangement began in twenty fifteen, and there is solid evidence
19:37
Speaker 1: he was the big guy in line for a secret
19:39
Speaker 1: ten percent cut of expected billions in a joint venture.
19:46
Speaker 1: Now you've got the whistleblowers, you have Joe Biden's alleged
19:50
Speaker 1: role looks to be linked to the sales pace of
19:54
Speaker 1: the so called FBI investigation of Hunter Biden, which we
19:56
Speaker 1: know it's compromised, which is now in its fourth year
19:59
Speaker 1: without a single indictment being filed. We now know the
20:03
Speaker 1: GEOP congressional leaders, long suspicious the bureau was dragging its
20:06
Speaker 1: feet to protect the president, now claims more than ten
20:09
Speaker 1: whistle blowers have come forward to complain that agents working
20:13
Speaker 1: with Congressional Democrats are dismissing allegations against the Bidens as
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Speaker 1: disinformation even without investigating them. Those reports and the slowness
20:24
Speaker 1: of the probe have now led former Attorney General Bill
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Speaker 1: bar to reverse himself and say last week that a
20:29
Speaker 1: special prosecutor should take over the case of Hunter Biden.
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Speaker 1: Bill Barr was speaking this week and he said that
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Speaker 1: that it is looking at these intervening events, especially recent
20:42
Speaker 1: reports about FPI whistle blowers, and the possible reach of
20:45
Speaker 1: the investigation, referring to going all the way up to
20:47
Speaker 1: the top level of the United States government, in the FBI,
20:50
Speaker 1: in the CIA, in the DJ and at the White
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Speaker 1: House of the President. Warn't adding the protections of Special
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Speaker 1: Council status to assure that key decisions are made independently
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Speaker 1: without political favor quote unquote the Communist party leadership. Here's
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Speaker 1: what I know in China owns us right now. And
21:09
Speaker 1: the President can look at you and lie to you
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Speaker 1: and tell you and this is what he's been trying
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Speaker 1: to do. He's been trying to tell you that he's
21:18
Speaker 1: standing up for American interests in China, but not releasing
21:22
Speaker 1: the transcript tells you everything you need to know that
21:24
Speaker 1: he's probably lying to you, that he's nothing more than
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Speaker 1: China's lapdog, or they compromised him to the point where
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Speaker 1: he can't stand up for American interests. Think about it.
21:39
Speaker 1: Joining me now is my good friend former Senator and
21:42
Speaker 1: former presidential Kennet Rick Santorum Senators always it's nice to
21:47
Speaker 1: chat with you, and Rick, I want to ask you
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Speaker 1: your opinion on some of the biggest news has broken
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Speaker 1: over the last several days when it comes to Hunter Biden.
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Speaker 1: We know now that Hunter Biden has basically hoared out
22:03
Speaker 1: the White House and the Enable Observatory to get deals
22:06
Speaker 1: done with his father. We know that the majority of
22:09
Speaker 1: the meetings he was having with his dad's were after
22:11
Speaker 1: international business trips, and his business associates were in the
22:15
Speaker 1: meetings with him, including at the White House. We know
22:19
Speaker 1: that the FBI knew about this. We know that they've
22:22
Speaker 1: had a copy of this laptop since two and nineteen,
22:26
Speaker 1: and we know that they purposely filed or decided to
22:30
Speaker 1: classify some of the information on Hunter Biden as information
22:37
Speaker 1: they said that was probably propaganda or foreign Russian interference,
22:42
Speaker 1: so that they could close the investigations into Hunter Biden
22:45
Speaker 1: before they even got open. And now Senator Johnson has
22:50
Speaker 1: said he has zero faith in the FBI, said we
22:53
Speaker 1: cannot trusted them to get the bottom of these allegations
22:56
Speaker 1: involving Hunter Biden's overseas business dealings. Following these whistlebler reports
23:01
Speaker 1: that claim that they purposely buried quote verified and verifiable
23:07
Speaker 1: dirt about the president's business dealings, specifically with his uncle
23:12
Speaker 1: Jim Biden and with Joe Biden. You, your former senator,
23:18
Speaker 1: you look at this. How did we get to the
23:20
Speaker 1: point where now the FBI is able to hide information
23:23
Speaker 1: like this and still not be held accountable. I'm truly shocked,
23:26
Speaker 1: are you well? It is shocking the fact that the
23:32
Speaker 1: FBI has done these things is shocking. But look at
23:37
Speaker 1: what the FBI did under Jim Coleby and how they
23:40
Speaker 1: treated frankly, even the Hillary Clinton situation to the obviously
23:45
Speaker 1: the Russian Russia situation, all of which was deplorable behavior.
23:50
Speaker 1: And you know, we have to remember, and people have
23:55
Speaker 1: short memories that the FBI under jareker Oger did a
23:58
Speaker 1: lot of things that were were uh, you know, maybe
24:02
Speaker 1: some of you agreed with, but the bottom line is
24:05
Speaker 1: they had there they unfortunately with that kind of power
24:09
Speaker 1: that you get leaders who have their own agenda and
24:12
Speaker 1: they can use the the you know, the very good
24:16
Speaker 1: people and most of the people with the FBI are
24:17
Speaker 1: terrific people and servants that they use the power to
24:21
Speaker 1: accomplish their own goals. And I think that's what we're senior,
24:23
Speaker 1: and it's and it's tragic because at the time when
24:26
Speaker 1: the country is very divided, you you would think that
24:30
Speaker 1: you could rely on our institutions of justice to to
24:35
Speaker 1: be that blind person with the in the sense that
24:39
Speaker 1: you know, the the the scales balanced and not look
24:42
Speaker 1: at the politics and not have their personal agenda or
24:45
Speaker 1: political agenda. But that doesn't seem to be what's going
24:48
Speaker 1: on here. And to see the uh for a generous
24:54
Speaker 1: from kid gloves being played to with with a hunter
24:59
Speaker 1: Biden and on the sludge amber that has been leveled
25:02
Speaker 1: against the Republicans who are who have been under investigation,
25:06
Speaker 1: just further infuriates and creates distrusts infuriates conservatives. But all
25:12
Speaker 1: the creates distrust in our institutions that they are going
25:16
Speaker 1: to be the justice who's going to be blind and
25:18
Speaker 1: going to be meted out in a fair way and
25:20
Speaker 1: the rule of law actually matters. All those things are
25:23
Speaker 1: now being trolled under the busy by really rogues in
25:29
Speaker 1: the in the Justice Department doing political biddings. Let's talk
25:33
Speaker 1: about ten You knew some of these people. You and
25:36
Speaker 1: I had to debate many of them when we both
25:38
Speaker 1: were conservative commentators over at CNN. I want to take
25:42
Speaker 1: you back to write when this laptop came out right
25:46
Speaker 1: before the twenty twenty elections, and it was very clear
25:50
Speaker 1: that the media's preferred candidate was obviously Joe Biden, and
25:54
Speaker 1: it was the preferred candidate of what I would now
25:56
Speaker 1: refer to the American intelligence oligarchy. You had fifty plus
26:02
Speaker 1: senior US intelligence professor professionals who signed a letter claiming
26:08
Speaker 1: that the laptop's contents were quote, Russian disinformation, that's their
26:12
Speaker 1: own word. Senator and they wanted to stop Donald Trump
26:16
Speaker 1: from sending out tweets about it. They wanted it to
26:19
Speaker 1: be classified is misinformation, so it'd be shut down on
26:23
Speaker 1: the line. That's exactly what happened. But you had the
26:26
Speaker 1: US spy chiefs who signed this infamously misleading letter, and
26:30
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say it was misleading. It's a straight
26:32
Speaker 1: up lie. This included the top levels of our intelligence community.
26:36
Speaker 1: It had John Brennan, it had Leon Panetta, had Michael Hayden,
26:41
Speaker 1: had James Clapper, and they all said to the American
26:46
Speaker 1: people that this laptop had to be Russian disinformation. And
26:51
Speaker 1: everybody's sitting there, the top levels of our government, you know,
26:55
Speaker 1: in spying and everything else in investigative work, they all
27:00
Speaker 1: signed this. Is that not now a part of this conspiracy,
27:03
Speaker 1: this criminal conspiracy that the top level people knew, and
27:07
Speaker 1: they knew They had to know that this was real
27:10
Speaker 1: because they were the ones involved in protecting America from
27:15
Speaker 1: adult children of any leader in this country being used
27:18
Speaker 1: as political leverage against the United States of America. They
27:21
Speaker 1: had to know it was authentic. They have people that
27:24
Speaker 1: they employed that their entire job is to look at
27:27
Speaker 1: information like this and decipher what is real and what
27:30
Speaker 1: is not real. And yet fifty of them came out
27:33
Speaker 1: to sway the election and said no, no no, this is misinformation,
27:38
Speaker 1: and they all signed their name to it, knowing they
27:40
Speaker 1: were lying to the American people. Well, let me let
27:46
Speaker 1: me just say, as for us any kind of criminal charges.
27:49
Speaker 1: None of these people were in office. I mean, these
27:51
Speaker 1: are all former intelty. No, no, I'm not saying they were.
27:55
Speaker 1: Let me let me free phrase that, because I want
27:57
Speaker 1: to make clear I'm talking about the Biden crime family
27:59
Speaker 1: when I say this criminal activity. But these individuals clearly
28:03
Speaker 1: were in and around the White House at the time
28:05
Speaker 1: when when Hunter Biden was involved in so much of this.
28:10
Speaker 1: I mean, they had to have known what was going
28:12
Speaker 1: on when when when this was happening. They can't say
28:15
Speaker 1: they didn't know it. They were in charge. Yes, So
28:20
Speaker 1: so here's here's what I You know, we were seeing
28:26
Speaker 1: n together and we talked to a lot of these
28:27
Speaker 1: people in the green room and actually debated them on
28:30
Speaker 1: on air. The reality is, and you know this, then
28:34
Speaker 1: they believed Donald Trump was a threat to our republic
28:40
Speaker 1: and that they were willing, as you see from that letter,
28:43
Speaker 1: they were willing to lie to the American public about
28:47
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden and all of these stories in order to
28:52
Speaker 1: stop Donald Trump from being elected. They saw him as
28:55
Speaker 1: an existential threat. I mean they said this. I'm sure
28:58
Speaker 1: they said to you, they said to me. Yeah, they said,
29:00
Speaker 1: Donald Trump as someone who should not be in the
29:02
Speaker 1: White House must be gotten out of the White House.
29:05
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter at what cost. In fact, they're
29:09
Speaker 1: willing to lie and put the reputations at risk because
29:12
Speaker 1: that was in mind and their mind this was an
29:16
Speaker 1: heroic act for them to stop Trump. And unfortunately there's
29:22
Speaker 1: still people who believe that, and so they're not they're
29:24
Speaker 1: not going out saying, gee, you know, we made a mistake,
29:26
Speaker 1: and you know we didn't know all this stuff. You're right,
29:29
Speaker 1: then they didn't know all that stuff. They're not going
29:31
Speaker 1: to have been a mistake because they knew what they
29:34
Speaker 1: were doing when they did it, and they realized and
29:37
Speaker 1: they rationalized it that they were doing a greater good
29:41
Speaker 1: to the to the republic by getting rid of Donald Trump.
29:44
Speaker 1: You know what, the issues I think is even more now.
29:48
Speaker 1: You got to keep it simple, stupid as I put it,
29:51
Speaker 1: and you got to understand we have a huge gift
29:54
Speaker 1: from the Democrats because very quickly we've seen what they
29:58
Speaker 1: can do to destroy a country. And remember, the weaker
30:02
Speaker 1: we are, the more powerful they become, which is their
30:05
Speaker 1: entire plan. Look at what they've done with inflation, look
30:08
Speaker 1: at what they've done with the economy, look at what
30:11
Speaker 1: they've done with taking away our rights. And I think
30:14
Speaker 1: that's something that's going to be so important at Sepac
30:18
Speaker 1: Texas to talk about those. And it brings up another issue.
30:21
Speaker 1: Victor Urbanu, you and I set with who we had
30:24
Speaker 1: a great conversation with him over in Budapest. There are
30:28
Speaker 1: people that are criticizing him coming to America, and they
30:32
Speaker 1: are criticizing him coming to see pack. I think it's
30:37
Speaker 1: important that we have grand debates. I think it's important
30:42
Speaker 1: to hear from other leaders from around the world and
30:45
Speaker 1: to hear about the things they've done well and things
30:48
Speaker 1: that they wish maybe they would have done differently. And
30:51
Speaker 1: I hear people that want to take a shot and
30:53
Speaker 1: they want to attack conservatives for listening to others. I mean,
30:57
Speaker 1: you look at just the wealth of the nation from
31:01
Speaker 1: when you and I went over and spoke in Hungary,
31:05
Speaker 1: and one of the things that I think was so
31:07
Speaker 1: interesting was to hear about what their world looks like,
31:10
Speaker 1: in the reality of being dependent on Russian oil, being
31:15
Speaker 1: dependent on Russian gas. These are things that are so
31:19
Speaker 1: important that people to understand. If you're in that part
31:22
Speaker 1: of the world, you're landlocked, and if America isn't producing
31:27
Speaker 1: oil and gas, then we got to get it from somewhere,
31:30
Speaker 1: And where are we going to get it from. We're
31:33
Speaker 1: gonna have to get it from Vladimir Putin and tell you, guys,
31:36
Speaker 1: figure out something else that can work better than that.
31:39
Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on having a foreign
31:41
Speaker 1: leader come in and talk in this country, someone who
31:45
Speaker 1: may have a different government than we have, but has
31:48
Speaker 1: different insights in that part of the world, and specifically
31:51
Speaker 1: when you're neighboring Russia. Why are people freaking out over
31:55
Speaker 1: having a foreign leader come and talk about how they
31:58
Speaker 1: do things somewhere else? Yeah. First of Victor Orban is
32:02
Speaker 1: the leading conservative voice, elected conservative voice in Europe. It
32:08
Speaker 1: was right for Seapack to go to Hungary, and you
32:10
Speaker 1: and I were there and met with Victor Orban, spoke
32:13
Speaker 1: with him. Victor Orban is in a very borders Ukraine.
32:18
Speaker 1: Almost all of his energy he gets from Russia or
32:20
Speaker 1: through Ukraine, and the idea that we're going to hold
32:23
Speaker 1: him to the standard that well, that that that they
32:28
Speaker 1: shouldn't have any relationship with someone who provides all the
32:30
Speaker 1: almost all of the energy for their country is ridiculous.
32:33
Speaker 1: He can't commit suicide for for his nation by cutting
32:37
Speaker 1: off fuel. He's also landlocked, so unlike all these other
32:41
Speaker 1: countries that can get LG shipped in, he has no
32:43
Speaker 1: way to get llergy into his countries. Just recently, you
32:47
Speaker 1: got to take a trip and it was an amazing
32:50
Speaker 1: trip to Budapest to Hungary to speak at Seapack Hungry,
32:54
Speaker 1: and we also had a very interesting opportunity to sit
33:00
Speaker 1: down with Victor Orman, who is the Prime Minister of
33:05
Speaker 1: that country. Now, I always love moments like that because
33:09
Speaker 1: you get to talk to individuals that have a very
33:11
Speaker 1: different world perspective, in a worldview, and I think one
33:15
Speaker 1: of the things that we do in this country, and
33:17
Speaker 1: it frustrates me many times, is we try to assume
33:21
Speaker 1: that every other country should act like we act, or
33:23
Speaker 1: has the ability to act like we act in America,
33:26
Speaker 1: and that is not always the case. You look at
33:29
Speaker 1: where Hungry is as a country, You look at how
33:33
Speaker 1: their country was affected during the world wars and who
33:37
Speaker 1: has been able to occupy their country very different and
33:41
Speaker 1: where they are in the world compared to where America is.
33:44
Speaker 1: You look at when it comes to domestic issues like
33:47
Speaker 1: oil and gas. They are landlocked and they very much
33:50
Speaker 1: are dependent on oil and gas unfortunately from Russia, which
33:55
Speaker 1: means they are going to end up being different and
33:57
Speaker 1: acting different than we would because they are in anyways
34:00
Speaker 1: held hostage by Russia, just like Europe is right now
34:04
Speaker 1: because of what's going on with a long gas. Senator,
34:08
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your perspective because you and I
34:11
Speaker 1: sit down with him, and I didn't for a moment
34:15
Speaker 1: think that he was going to have the same worldview
34:18
Speaker 1: or the same thoughts and everything as I do or
34:19
Speaker 1: you do. Their country and their government is different than
34:23
Speaker 1: our country in our government. But this is a guy
34:26
Speaker 1: that's a hardcore i would say conservative in that part
34:29
Speaker 1: of the world where it's very hard to be a
34:31
Speaker 1: conservative in that part of the world. And he's a
34:34
Speaker 1: guy that understands how important it is to be energy independent.
34:38
Speaker 1: He understands what it's like to do with Russia on
34:41
Speaker 1: a daily basis. Ukraine is a border neighboring place and
34:46
Speaker 1: then we find out he's coming to America to speak
34:48
Speaker 1: at SEAPAC and the left just totally loses their mind
34:52
Speaker 1: and goes insane, saying, how can you have this guy
34:54
Speaker 1: over and why would you ever listen to this foreign leader?
34:57
Speaker 1: And I want to get your take on that. I
34:59
Speaker 1: think it's important to have a grand debate and listen
35:01
Speaker 1: to people that maybe you don't agree with everything they
35:03
Speaker 1: agree believe in and vice versa, but it doesn't mean
35:06
Speaker 1: that you don't listen to what they have to say.
35:09
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, and you set it up, you know perfectly.
35:12
Speaker 1: The reality is that Hungary is in a very precarious neighborhood.
35:16
Speaker 1: They bordered Ukraine. They have lots of immigration press pressure
35:21
Speaker 1: coming from the Middle East up in through Hungary. So
35:24
Speaker 1: immigration is a very big issue in Hungary. He got
35:28
Speaker 1: into the left when crazy and a speech he gave
35:31
Speaker 1: in Romania I think it was last week, and claimed
35:36
Speaker 1: that he was a racist, and claimed that he was
35:38
Speaker 1: all of course, I think all all of us racist
35:40
Speaker 1: that because we wanted to have a secure southern border.
35:43
Speaker 1: So you know, take it with a green assault. When
35:45
Speaker 1: the left, you may charges you was a racist because
35:47
Speaker 1: you want to protect your border. And in a sense,
35:50
Speaker 1: that's what Orbon said. I mean, that's one of the
35:53
Speaker 1: things we talked. You talked about energy. But the other
35:55
Speaker 1: big thing is immigration. And what Orbonds said consistently repeated
36:00
Speaker 1: and reiterated not just in Romania but in Austria shortly thereafter,
36:05
Speaker 1: that Hungarian culture is threatened by people coming from the south,
36:11
Speaker 1: particularly Muslims, who are coming and seek not to integrate
36:17
Speaker 1: into Hungarian culture, but to set up a separate culture.
36:21
Speaker 1: And we and he points to accurately, what's happening in
36:25
Speaker 1: any England, what's happened this season in the UK, what's
36:28
Speaker 1: happening in France, it's happening in Germany, And he says,
36:30
Speaker 1: I don't want that to happen to my country. I mean,
36:32
Speaker 1: we're they're a small country. They're a country that is
36:37
Speaker 1: further south than any of those countries I me I mentioned,
36:39
Speaker 1: and have a lot more pressure on their border than
36:42
Speaker 1: than those other countries. And they want to maintain their
36:45
Speaker 1: cults at Western civilization, did Judeo Christian principles of undergirded
36:50
Speaker 1: And to say that, people claim you're a racist. No,
36:54
Speaker 1: he's not a racist. I mean we I have complaints
36:57
Speaker 1: as he knew. I know about the concern about what's
36:59
Speaker 1: coming across the border, but it's not a concern that
37:02
Speaker 1: Mexicans and Guatemalas and Hodurans are not part of Western
37:06
Speaker 1: civilization and not Judaeo Christian and their ethic. They are.
37:10
Speaker 1: There are all sorts of other reasons, drugs and crime
37:13
Speaker 1: and a whole host of other things that we have
37:15
Speaker 1: to be concerned about as well as just the sheer number.
37:18
Speaker 1: But they have a fundamentally different thrent and for us
37:21
Speaker 1: to to sort of play that they're all they're doing
37:25
Speaker 1: is sort of playing a racist game because they you know,
37:32
Speaker 1: they hate Jews and Muslims. Nothing could be farther than
37:35
Speaker 1: the truth. What they want is a country that its
37:40
Speaker 1: civilization can be maintained and their culture can be maintained.
37:44
Speaker 1: And this, as we know because we had this conversation,
37:47
Speaker 1: then there's probably never been a regime and run in
37:50
Speaker 1: Hungary that's been more favorable to Jews than this regime.
37:53
Speaker 1: So the idea that this is not an open and
37:55
Speaker 1: welcome regime to judeaicrit, that the Jay Christian worldview is
37:59
Speaker 1: simply fall. You know, you mentioned having a secure border,
38:03
Speaker 1: and when you and I were in favor of secure
38:04
Speaker 1: border where they say, they said that, you know, we
38:07
Speaker 1: are racist. When Donald Trump, Yeah, when Donald Trump advocated
38:10
Speaker 1: for the border wall, they compared him to Nazis. The
38:14
Speaker 1: Biden administration came out this past week, the Biden administration
38:17
Speaker 1: is quietly just approved the construction of the Trump Wall
38:22
Speaker 1: of the US Mexico border wall near Yuma, Arizona. And
38:25
Speaker 1: Joe Biden previously admonished Donald Trump over that wall and
38:28
Speaker 1: his immigration policies, saying that they were racist, and he
38:33
Speaker 1: even said not another foot. Remember that was his campaign line,
38:36
Speaker 1: not another foot of this wall. And now Joe Biden,
38:40
Speaker 1: who's his entire mantra throughout the twenty twenty presidential campaign
38:43
Speaker 1: regarding the construction of this US Mexico border wall, is
38:46
Speaker 1: it's a racist wall, it's a bigoted wall, and we're
38:48
Speaker 1: a welcome and open country. But then he says we
38:50
Speaker 1: have a secure border. Well, now they have plans that
38:54
Speaker 1: they filed for four major gaps in the wall that
38:58
Speaker 1: are there right now to be filled to stop the
39:02
Speaker 1: busiest corridors of illegal immigration crossings. So I guess now
39:06
Speaker 1: Joe Biden saying I'm a racist, right, Yeah, this is
39:10
Speaker 1: where reality meets you know, a Trump's ideology and their
39:15
Speaker 1: ideology and pure politics, which is what Biden was all about.
39:19
Speaker 1: By Joe Biden was never against the wall. I served
39:22
Speaker 1: with Joe Biden the United States Senate. He understood, just
39:24
Speaker 1: like all of us understood, that wall was a part
39:27
Speaker 1: of an integrated border security network and that there there
39:31
Speaker 1: were certainly important gaps in that wall, and we all
39:33
Speaker 1: admitted that until politics trump reason. And now he is
39:38
Speaker 1: confronted with the fact that he has a disaster at
39:41
Speaker 1: the border that is hurting not just Americans and communities
39:46
Speaker 1: that are being flooded with the illegal immigrants, but frankly
39:49
Speaker 1: hurting the illegal immigrants themselves, who are being trafficked and drugged,
39:53
Speaker 1: and a whole host of other problems that are associated
39:55
Speaker 1: with with what's going on down there. Lastly, I want
39:58
Speaker 1: to ask you, I am getting to that point, and
40:01
Speaker 1: you and I talked about this, and I just want
40:03
Speaker 1: to a twenty second answer. I am at the point
40:08
Speaker 1: now where I don't care about name calling and I
40:10
Speaker 1: and I hope to inspire others to vote for what
40:13
Speaker 1: you believe in, stand up for what you believe in,
40:15
Speaker 1: and if they're calling you a bad name. It probably
40:17
Speaker 1: means you're doing something right at this point, especially if
40:19
Speaker 1: it's coming from the left of the media. Are you
40:21
Speaker 1: in the same camp now? You play to win and
40:23
Speaker 1: forget trying to quote get along and make everybody coom
40:26
Speaker 1: by yan and feel good, because it doesn't work anymore.
40:29
Speaker 1: The one thing that I get Donald Donald Trump tremendous
40:32
Speaker 1: credit and I eternally grateful too that he showed that
40:37
Speaker 1: the absolute hypocrisy of the of the Democrat media, and
40:42
Speaker 1: he showed that you can stand up to them and
40:45
Speaker 1: fight against them and not get not get assassinated in
40:50
Speaker 1: the process. In other words, not get killed politically in
40:52
Speaker 1: the process. More Republicans need to understand what Trump did.
40:58
Speaker 1: Let the mainstream media is part of the Democratic Party
41:01
Speaker 1: and don't treat them without any deference because they deserve
41:04
Speaker 1: no respect. It's time to win and stop trying to
41:07
Speaker 1: get along. I'm just tired of this kumbaya. It's when
41:10
Speaker 1: when you win, you do what you want to do. Senator,
41:12
Speaker 1: I appreciate your time, thanks for sticking around for a
41:15
Speaker 1: extra segment there, and I look forward to seeing you soon.
41:18
Speaker 1: My friend, my pleasure, God bless bye bye. Make sure,
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