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Mike Ferguson Unleashed — Stunts, Grit, and the Making of Last Hit · Cinema Yūgen

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  G'day. That's right. It's that time again. Time for... CINEMA! YOOGEEEAAAAAAA!
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  Yes, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Cinema Eugen in an industry crowded with pretenders.
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  One man brings the real thing.
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  Forged in ink, tempered in chaos, built for the screen. Mike Ferguson is not
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  just part of independent cinema. He is one of the driving forces with over 185 credits.
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  A viral legacy as...
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  Internet's professional bounty hunter and a reputation for
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  playing men you do not want to
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  cross ferguson has become a walking symbol of raw uncompromising genre filmmaking
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  from the explosion action hit which we're here to talk about the last hit to
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  the shattered world the blackout the rising Darkness of Dracula Eternal.
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  He doesn't chase intensity.
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  He delivers it. Actor, producer, stunt warrior, screen presence card from pure steel.
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  Now the indie cinema titan storms into Cinema Yugen for a conversation packed
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  with grit, velocity, and zero filter.
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  Turn it up, lock it in, and prepare yourself because this episode doesn't arrive quietly.
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  It hits hard because this is Last Hit Conversation with the mighty Mike Ferguson.
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  Welcome to Santa Ma Yugen, Mike.
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  And thank you for that introduction. That was beautiful. God damn it.
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  That's a lot of energy. Thank you.
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  Oh, thank you, mate. Well, look, when I saw you come and I thought I got to
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  have energy for Mike Ferguson because you're an unstoppable force in this business.
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  You are a tornado of awesomeness and unstoppable.
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  And you're very inspirational to many, many independent filmmakers.
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  So I'm very glad to have you and was very thrilled to see last hit.
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  What a thrilling heist picture. I had to get in touch with Alan actually after
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  I watched it. I said, give me the other one now.
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  I know he i know he reviewed like we
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  you know we sometimes you know blackout man
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  look yeah that one too i want to see that one next and
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  your dracula picture have you put your dracula picture up for review yet or
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  yeah no i i don't think so i gotta talk to yeah you gotta talk to the filmmakers
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  i have nothing to do with that okay that's when you reached out to me i was
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  like yeah i'll talk to you you know because i literally have nothing to do with
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  all that other stuff oh okay Yeah, yeah.
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  Because I'm- In black- Go ahead, sorry. I'll have to check out the Dracula one,
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  too, because I'm excited to- It's a fun movie.
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  It's a really fun movie. I make- Look, these are popcorn movies.
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  These are Charles Band. These are- Love of- Junja with all the gore. This is all the wings.
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  Can you see the poster behind me? Yeah. Yeah.
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  Well, it was known as Trances in the States, but- Yeah, yeah. Trances did Jack Death.
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  Huge of God, yeah. and that's that's that's
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  what we're doing here is that's look we're not trying
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  to pretend we're something we're not we are physically
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  active like look i'm a black belt krav maga
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  a stunt man uh i trained with dan henderson for a couple years yeah my my tawana
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  who's in the movie who plays maya she is a was a pro wrestler for seven years
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  and a champion for five yeah and she's a And she chose it too. She chose it too.
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  Yeah. We're all fighters. You know what I'm saying? So, and blessed that I have
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  so many good friends that would let me throw them around or vice versa. Yeah.
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  And there's a lot of that in this. Yes.
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  I've got to say, when you had a fight with your missus, did she ever body slam you like that?
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  Yes, 100%. She has body slammed me when we fought.
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  Wow. Because like, I've never seen. That's what 26, 27 years does.
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  I thought that was so awesome. I've never seen like that in a movie where,
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  like, I know people say Sigourney Weaver with the Queen Alien,
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  but Sigourney Weaver didn't pick up the Queen Alien and body slammed the bitch. No, no.
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  I mean, here's the thing. This person is in real life, you know,
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  in real life does this on the regular.
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  So yeah it was nice to show audiences
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  that we could do something different and make even look
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  that whole bring in a kick to high kick to a gunfight yeah how iconic is that
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  yeah like it needs to be on a t-shirt yes yeah and i'll probably gonna do that
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  thank you for bringing that up and yeah awesome that's the thing is these are
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  the little moments that i've remembered,
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  and thank you so much to Mitch Parks I was able to Lacey Storm and he was too
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  of these inspirations we had yeah yeah.
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  And very thankful on the dp and
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  look this movie was shot very fast yes i've
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  heard you speak on other interviews that you do these like lightning quick because
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  like yeah as you say days as days are money days are money on independent films
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  so the less days you look people don't realize how much it is for post right
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  yeah you know i'm saying post is gonna be the most happy budget sometimes Yeah.
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  And so you got to prepare for that. And so, look, on that movie, favors were brought in.
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  People flew themselves in on last hit. Oh, I've noticed.
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  There was literally, I'm like, hey, guys, I need you for this. Would you do this?
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  I've got a YouTuber with 37 million, 38 million today's subscribers.
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  Whoa. And he's in the movie. Wow. And, yeah, I gave him a rate. It was terrible.
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  Thank you for being in the movie, Nick. You know what I'm saying?
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  But this kid in real life just fought on the Tate bill in Dubai.
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  Wow. He literally, he's boxed in Dubai like four or five times, Florida.
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  This kid's a real boxer, and he's in this movie with me. Wow.
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  You know, and it's people that I get to work with every day,
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  and I pulled favors, and we all do stunts on each other's shows or do whatever or movies.
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  Joe Davidson from Sorority of the Damned, he's the director of Ron Beshear's new show.
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  He flew himself, well, a friend of ours flew him out from Florida.
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  I put him in my apartment to have him here for a couple, two or three days to do this movie.
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  Yeah, it's, it's, look, it's really beautiful.
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  It is what, it is what the movie business needs is, is camaraderie among filmmakers.
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  And, and look, I believe there's enough room for us, for everyone in this world,
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  Mike. And I believe there's enough room for everyone's dreams.
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  I do too. I think we should all help each other in this small world.
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  In indie film, where we're getting assaulted from AI, a big studio,
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  which is more declining, which makes us even more powerful as indie filmmakers.
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  The revolution is here.
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  Yeah, look, it's already happened. Like literally these YouTube channels they
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  work on, they're getting their own shows on Netflix.
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  They're getting their own show, the Amazon Prime. They already have like four
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  or five seasons. I'm screaming, I'm Mike Ferguson. Right, right.
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  It's already here. We have full control of it. Let's support each other to the highest.
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  Yeah, I mean, this is this is how
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  it happened the last time mike you know with with the easy riders
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  and raging balls we're just yes we're just
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  a different incarnation of that yeah no
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  it is and i'm grateful for it i'm really i'm
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  grateful to be around people that see that with me right now yeah and so much
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  that i was able to produce three five films last year i know and leverage my
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  whatever I've been doing into that and I want to say thank you so much to Ofsana,
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  I'm not going to get her last name right. Okay. This is the girl who produced
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  this movie. Right, right. Story by her.
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  Wow. She saw how me and my wife reacted with each other and how much we loved each other on Blackout.
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  Right, right. So she had this script written by Anthony Leon,
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  which I love this kid's writing.
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  It reminds me of a more coherent Stephen King.
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  Okay. You know what I'm saying? Like when he went by other pen names,
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  he wrote more coherently. Right, yeah.
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  And yeah, I think he, well, I think he wasn't doing as much cocaine.
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  I believe that too. He had a good run. Right.
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  You know, I got monster and marijuana, God bless. Cause I mean,
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  cocaine's a hell of a drug is, is Rick. No, it was, it was, I remember in the 90s.
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  But yeah. Yeah. And, and, you know, you, you have to be careful of the bears
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  too. When this guy. Yeah, no. Yeah.
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  And God bless him for doing that. look i worked
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  with her on skincare i didn't be credited uh proper
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  credit okay yeah i worked with
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  her on skin she she realized what's happened yeah
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  happened elizabeth banks or whatever her name is yes and she directed cocaine
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  bear because she saw the shift yeah and an indie film i mean that by all means
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  that was that was an indie film and even skincare was a smaller budget indie film for that lady.
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  But yeah, look, last hit, that bump I took on the table and then fall on the
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  thing, I did that four or five times. Wow.
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  I'm 54. I was 53 when we shot that. You're made of heavy metal, man. Bro. Heavy metal.
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  And he ran that all-in-one bit with this thing up. They didn't think we were
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  going to break it up into pieces.
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  Cody, that dude is amazing. He's a maniac. heck, he had to pick me up like eight times. Yeah.
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  He's bigger than me. Look, I'm 6'3". He's great. He reminded me of Brian Jane.
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  He looked like Brian Jane. He's 6'7", 6'8", picking my 200 pounds up,
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  slamming me over and over. No.
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  God bless him, man. And this is how action movies are made. Yeah.
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  You know what I mean? Yeah.
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  I don't know how you guys do it and get up the next day and do it again.
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  Look, man, I'm glad this movie was only seven days. I couldn't probably live
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  longer than that. You know what I'm saying? I was about to say.
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  Look, and I want to say to Leanne, look, at the time, I didn't see her development
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  in the script because I was so obsessed with who my character was.
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  And she's got a really great arc in this movie. It led me to play.
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  Look, man, I'm kind of method. and I walked in, I didn't like the guy at all. And he was marvelous.
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  Yeah. And we really played off that energy. And he was marvelous.
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  And watching the film after it, I love his depiction.
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  I love everything he did. We got to shoot that in Elizabeth Taylor's mansion
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  on Burton Way in Beverly Hills. Yeah. Wow.
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  Yeah, Tori, who's in the movie, she's been in a bunch with us.
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  She got body slammed by my wife in the movie. Her boyfriend owns that property.
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  A bunch of other ones we get to film out occasionally.
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  That's awesome. The power of indie cinema.
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  Wow. See, people listening, independent filmmakers and dreamers and people who
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  want to know, look, it's, if you get together, it's, it's, it's about finding,
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  like you said on an interview before, I think Mike, it's about finding your tribe, right?
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  Funny tribe. Look, in 2019, I've looked on Craigslist and saw a movie shoot
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  for $75 out in the high desert. Yeah. So I took the job.
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  I drive out there. They got a red camera. I'm a human trafficker.
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  I'm going to do whatever. It's $75. It pays my gas and a pack of cigarettes.
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  Right. And I go out there, and in 2021, that was five roles of success with Orson Obowitz.
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  Right great gritty dirty crime movie yeah he gave me a call for the action movie.
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  Showdown at the grand like in 21 hey
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  i got a movie for you and i'm like shut up
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  because i took that other one dude i had was six on the call sheet and they
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  had omissions on the when i went to go beat up john what's his name from deer
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  hunter oh i'm so stupid right now i'm gonna remember it later but i i show up
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  on set i don't even have that in my script i show up with boo,
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  john savage yes savage right so that whole scene with john savage literally
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  is given to me on the day wow and but i just got to bless to work with all of
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  these great people what's john have a showdown with terrence howard and a gunfight
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  with them wow yeah you know what i'm
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  And so, and that was being part of the indie film community that got me on that
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  side film, is going out and doing a little bit more. Wow.
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  And taking and running this, I'm a human trafficker, I'm like,
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  how bad can I be? And that ended up being the breaking point for the lead of the movie.
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  This little snippet we shot in the high desert at dusk with a red cam.
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  And Orson's dad was the DP, so it was crazy. You know what I mean?
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  Man to quote tom petty in the postman i heard of you man you're yeah yeah look
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  man i i mean look it's everybody trying to help everybody look this is to get
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  a film done is an impossible feat,
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  it's a wonder any film gets made sometimes hey no 100 and and this was brainchild
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  within a couple months and and collaborated on we shot this within a six-month
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  period of blackout and that's how fast this team got everything together and
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  we got everybody on page very quick. Yeah.
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  You know, there's big lines of dialogue. To learn that much shit in a very short
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  period of time and understand your characters, whatever it may be, is tough.
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  And then you throw in fighting on top of it. We've got some BTS rehearsals on
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  those. Yeah. I did get to work with a couple people, which was blessing.
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  Leanne crushed it in this film with Trent. They gave a really beautiful fight.
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  Believable my wife look those punches
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  i can i've seen her do those so that you know
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  what i'm saying yeah i wouldn't want to
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  be in front of one no no she's a cannon that's
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  a lady who was an ex bodybuilder pro wrestler crown
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  mcgahn structure real life happy wife happy life yeah yeah so no body slamming
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  yeah and that's the thing i think that's the thing is that people are looking
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  for is in action movies and movies these days are people they can identify with from other things.
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  You you know what i'm saying and then her having a career wrestling and and
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  now she works uh for a homeless foundation is working on her own 501c homeless foundation working out,
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  she's just saying god bless her you know what
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  i'm saying but all of us are working within this
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  sphere of doing and helping and trying to
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  create something sure it's not hollywood's not
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  singular it's it's multiple movies it
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  is a tribe yes and people
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  don't i i think people outside of the business don't realize how many layers
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  there are in fact yeah yeah yeah it they think like they see the movies at the
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  theater and they think that's the business that's it right no man look i i just
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  got a tip of the ice now i just got text message i'm going to talk about because i can't say names,
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  Mike if you can bring us some MGs or some shows ready to fly we have access
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  to a 50 million dollar fund I'm gonna make that call at 4 o'clock with this guy,
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  and look I mean I gotta be careful who I hitch my that would be a good idea
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  it's probably not gonna be the idea I take.
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  Because there's always a give and take and this business is changing and a lot
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  of middle people made money for a long time where the artist or the filmmaker
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  or whoever didn't have ownership. Yes, yes.
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  It that's that that's that's the most yeah look
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  that's the biggest thing you can work for everybody your
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  whole life yeah but you'll have nothing yes but
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  if you have ownership a percentage of that yeah try to get over 10 or more but
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  make yourself that important yeah if you own your film you've got a better yeah
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  i mean look that's that's the thing these days and that's yeah and i think that
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  Everybody has access to this.
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  We have a phone in our pocket. We have a 4K camera.
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  We have, it's limitless. Yes.
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  Look, there's that YouTube kid just did Iron Log. I haven't seen it yet.
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  No, no. But it made money. Yeah.
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  $3 million made like $20 million. Yeah. So, I mean, what it signals is the shift is on.
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  And look, the race to the top is on.
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  Yeah. Because if Indie Cinema can get through this window now while it's open,
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  while the studios are in complete and utter disarray. Yeah.
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  The sky's the limit for us if we can if we can
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  uh get through the gate and and just yeah and and
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  then it's just navigating through distribution deals and navigating with or
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  going to portal yourself yeah there's so many ways you have these days but it
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  really solidifies things and i think and that's doing last hit and putting you
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  know i have a stand-up comedian in there uh who's who run stage at Flappers.
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  I have a YouTuber with 37 million subscribers. I have a pro wrestler.
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  I have... Look, these people all add up. The YouTuber already helped promote it and stuff like that.
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  They all add up because it takes a village.
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  And I think it's really those people have more value.
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  And I'm not going to say anything bad on anything than a lot of other names.
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  Look, I just did a movie with ruby rose and terrence howard an action movie
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  awesome it's a it's a post-apocalyptic train heist movie and i'm a trader that
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  has with that has past history with chad michael collins,
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  from from uh the sniper stories and all that he's the lead of this terrific guy and and,
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  We're lucky to be able to get that because those names we have,
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  Terrence is worth money.
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  Ruby has 19 million people on Instagram. Yeah. 19 million.
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  Yeah. She has a gigantic soapbox. I think that's where the blind spot in the
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  studios is, is they don't realize that now the artists have a direct link to their audience. Yes.
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  Yes. They don't understand that these people have a direct line to the people
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  that want their material.
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  Well, what's funny about it is they're starting to realize it.
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  So I just did a Disney Hulu show with Topper Guild, who I've been working on
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  YouTube for four years now. He had 2.5 million subscribers.
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  He's at 85 million today, four years later.
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  Paramount has 69 million. The Stokes Twins I work on have 139 million subscribers.
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  They all have shows on Prime now.
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  Zong stokes twins multiple seasons
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  with me on it we mainstreamed now they're
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  putting money into their own shows rabbit hole
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  is the hulu one and it's all of the big youtubers with their own episodes not
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  in one of the episodes wow as mike ferguson who i play right mike ferguson is
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  mike ferguson yeah mike ferguson is mike ferguson because that's what mike ferguson does that's Yeah.
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  And everybody was like, why are you talking about yourself third person?
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  I was like, watch, it's going to pay.
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  Like the James Cameron thing in South Park, you know, Mike Ferguson does what
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  Mike Ferguson does. Mike Ferguson is Mike Ferguson.
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  And I did all these YouTube videos that are at 100, 150 million views,
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  190 million views, saying that over and over, which gets transcribed to Google.
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  So it's God bless. Yeah. It was a shot,
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  you know, when we took it and we started figuring and out the kids know it
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  tomorrow i'm doing traditional media
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  stuff friday i'm back on youtube monday i'm
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  getting a pedicure on friday i get
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  my nails painted they're paying me for that do you sleep mike
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  at all like five six hours a night look here's wow i wouldn't i wouldn't yeah
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  i would never guess that you take time off um here's the thing like this was
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  my day off The person I've been seeing is in Vegas right now.
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  That's real bad now. I've interrupted the machine.
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  Yeah, the person I've been seeing is in Vegas right now, so I'm like,
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  sick. Wow. I just was in my underwear until an hour before this.
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  I ate a plate of eggs, fried eggs in butter.
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  I had two bagels with cream cheese. I wore it down a little bit.
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  Yeah, look, I got a pull-up bar right there. Wow. At a dip station. There you go. Yeah.
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  You are Mr. Unstopped. I'll tell you what.
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  I don't know why they haven't called you yet to play Randy Savage in a movie. I have no idea.
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  Look, here's- Macho Man Year. Yeah. Macho Man Year. Look, I got that down.
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  I've been running it for a minute.
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  And the kids know me. Yeah.
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  That's beautiful. But anyway, I'm sorry I went on a tangent.
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  That's all right. Monster.
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  That's okay. monster and monster and goodies
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  and all that sort of thing but the last hit ladies and gentlemen where
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  can can people could see that last hit now look people could see we i want to
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  thank glasshouse distribution i think they're now called studio dome okay but
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  they they have been wonderful they have helped out that's david josh lawrence
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  and tom malloy they they have been so wonderful,
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  so transparent one of the good guys I think it's because I've known David Josh
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  Lawrence since 96 but you can watch the last hit on Apple TV on VOD you can
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  watch it on Prime on VOD and you can watch it on YouTube on VOD,
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  now it'll be rolling out to other streamers soon but look I think it's like
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  3 bucks watch the movie support Indie Cinema It's worth, it's worth every cent.
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  Yeah. Every single cent of that. And will you eventually, do your movies come
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  to, to Blu-ray and DVD or that sort of thing? Or do you do film? No, some of them do.
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  So that we haven't, we, we, we have that option with this.
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  Mitch did static codes, which came out 20, 2023.
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  It just re-released with a director's to onto DVD.
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  So we do have that course. Right.
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  I haven't talked to anybody about that. We do know how important that market is, especially in this.
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  Yeah, it is. So there will be a DVD for this.
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  Yes, that is awesome. I can't wait to get my hands on that.
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  Listeners, you have heard it from the mighty man himself, the titan of indie
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  cinema, Mike Ferguson, as Mike Ferguson.
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  Mike Ferguson doesn't do what Mike Ferguson does because he's Mike Ferguson.
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  Mike Ferguson does what Mike Ferguson does, because Mike Ferguson is Mike Ferguson.
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  And he is a champion of independent cinema.
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  He is a bright and shining light of hope in dark times.
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  This is a fantastic film. Last hit, my review, filmthreat.com.
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  My guest, Mike Ferguson. Soon we hope to be playing the mighty macho man, Randy Savage.
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  God knows why they haven't contacted him
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  for yet that yet i will never know mike
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  thank you for being my guest on cinema yugen
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  thank you so much and thank you
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  for the kind words and man keep on
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  believing and keep watching yes the mighty
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  mike ferguson last hit gotta check
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  out blackout 2 dracula eternal anything really with this genuine screen presence
• 25:52
  indie titan what is he he's the energizer bunny with a nuclear reactor shoved
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  up his bum he's absolutely,
• 26:05
  infectiously insane electric exciting he's everything you want.
• 26:11
  In a complete breakfast cereal, the mighty Mike Ferguson. He's got it all going on.
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  Unstoppable, uncontrollable, unrestrained. And that's exactly how we like him.
• 26:24
  That's how you love him, Mike Ferguson. Get down to the links in the description.
• 26:31
  And as always, my little Eugenites, thank you for listening to us on Spotify,
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  iHeartRadio, or wherever you choose to listen to your favorite podcasts.
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  I'm Kent Hill. And until next time, you've been listening to us on Cinema U-Games.