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VANCE WINS BIG ON DEBATE NIGHT · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome.
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Speaker 2: It is the Ben Ferguson Podcasts and it is a
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Speaker 2: dual show with Senator Ted Cruz and I as we
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Speaker 2: just got finished watching the vice presidential debate.
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Speaker 1: Senator you just watched it.
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Speaker 2: We got to watch it together, you got to commentate
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Speaker 2: on Hannity afterwards. And your initial takeaway from this debate.
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Speaker 2: I thought JD had a pretty good night.
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Speaker 3: He had an excellent, excellent night. It is eleven five pm,
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Speaker 3: just after the debate. As you noted, I just finished
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Speaker 3: doing Hannity and talking about the debate. I think this
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Speaker 3: was a good night for America. The winner of the
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Speaker 3: debate tonight was Donald Trump. The loser of the debate
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Speaker 3: tonight was Kamala Harris. Both candidates I think did an
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Speaker 3: effective job. Tim Waltz was frankly better than I expected,
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Speaker 3: but he had a very difficult case to make because
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Speaker 3: his job was to defend Kamala Harris's record. And the
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Speaker 3: reason that I think it was such a good night
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Speaker 3: for Trump is I think JD did a good job
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Speaker 3: job of prosecuting Kamala Harris's actual record. She is desperately, desperately,
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Speaker 3: desperately trying to run away from her record. Trying to
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Speaker 3: hide in the basement. And tonight the contrast was made
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Speaker 3: between the incredible successes on the border, on the economy,
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Speaker 3: on foreign policy under Donald Trump as compared to the
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Speaker 3: incredible failures on the border, on the economy, on foreign
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Speaker 3: policy under Kamala Harris and and and that stark divide
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Speaker 3: was there. I think Tim Waltz tried mightily to pretend
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Speaker 3: the record didn't exist. But but but there were some
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Speaker 3: rough moments because he couldn't deny reality. And and and
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Speaker 3: it really goes to the to the fundamental core conceit
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Speaker 3: of the Kamala Harris campaign, which is she is trying
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Speaker 3: to live in this alternate reality where she is the
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Speaker 3: change candidate and Donald J. Trump is the incumbent president,
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Speaker 3: and that is not in fact the planet on which
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Speaker 3: we live. And and I think JD did a good
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Speaker 3: job multiple times of saying, gosh, if she has all
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Speaker 3: these policy proposals, why isn't she doing any of them now?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for the last three and a half years.
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Speaker 3: And Walt's has no answer to that other than well, well,
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Speaker 3: what's happening now isn't working, So that's the problem.
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Speaker 2: There was one funny part of the debate that I laughed,
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Speaker 2: And it was when he was talking about how none
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Speaker 2: of the wall was actually built, and then it was
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Speaker 2: like he realized, oh wait, maybe I don't want to
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Speaker 2: go that far with this point, because she's got an
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Speaker 2: ad out showing down on Trump's wall, and he was
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Speaker 2: like he kind of backpedaled on.
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Speaker 1: He's like, well, you guys didn't build much of that wall.
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Speaker 2: It's like, well, now, didn't she just say, didn't know
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Speaker 2: you're here to represent just say we got to have
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Speaker 2: a secure border, build a wall.
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Speaker 3: Well, and you could tell that Waltz was uncomfortable defending
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Speaker 3: Kamala's record because he kept trying to go back to
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Speaker 3: Minnesota over and over, getting yeah, look at what I've
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Speaker 3: done in Minnesota. Look at what I've done in Minnesota.
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Speaker 3: It's like, wait a second, you're not the candidate for president,
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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris say is. She's been the vice president. And
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Speaker 3: I thought in particular, the strongest moments of the debate
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Speaker 3: were on economics and the impact for working men and women,
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Speaker 3: that that just people's lives are harder, that the cost
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Speaker 3: of everything has gone up, the cost of food, the
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Speaker 3: cost of healthcare, the cost of UH gasoline, and I
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Speaker 3: thought on the cost of housing, I think jd Vance
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Speaker 3: made a good point of Look eleven and a half
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Speaker 3: million illegal immigrants, do you think that's driving up the
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Speaker 3: cost of housing? And I will say two of the
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Speaker 3: losers tonight were sitting in the moderator chairs and and
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Speaker 3: and that they they seem to be trying to topple
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Speaker 3: prior moderators for for the biggest partisan hacks of a debate.
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Speaker 3: I thought CBS's moderators, Nora O'Donnell and Margaret Brennan did
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Speaker 3: did a terrible job. Uh, there is not a person
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Speaker 3: in the universe who watched this debate who has any
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Speaker 3: doubt either one of them is like that, none whatsoever.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there, And the best part was you and I
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Speaker 2: were watching together, and it's fun to watch these things
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Speaker 2: together because I was sitting there. And one of the
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Speaker 2: things that made me laugh was when they did their
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Speaker 2: hands off to each other. It was like, thinking, we
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Speaker 2: have to make we have so many important they think
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Speaker 2: you to back over to you.
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Speaker 1: It was like I was watching Anchorman.
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Speaker 2: Outtakes and it was like, we are so official journalistic
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Speaker 2: here and we're going to be wonky. And then they
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Speaker 2: would immediately go back in their hardest in their partisan hackery,
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Speaker 2: which was when they muted him.
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Speaker 3: Yes, no, no, that was wow.
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Speaker 1: That really was the moment.
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Speaker 2: I tweeted, I said, when that happened, I tweeted, I
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Speaker 2: was like in communist countries they mute microphones. They just
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Speaker 2: did it during the Vice president of debate that if
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Speaker 2: you want to know if the state sponsored media, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: they just did it.
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Speaker 3: I really was waiting for them. You know, you made
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Speaker 3: the Acreman equip as We're watching the debate, and I
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Speaker 3: was really waiting for one of them to lean over
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Speaker 3: as Ron Burgundy and say, screw you, Sandiago and I'm
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Speaker 3: cleaning the language up a little bit from the actual
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Speaker 3: line of the movie. But but it was number one stilted,
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Speaker 3: their mom rating number two. It was incredibly smarmy and condescending.
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Speaker 3: Your entire attitude is we know better than all of you.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, the things they interrupted, they were
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Speaker 3: supposed to not do fact checks. When they did do them,
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Speaker 3: they were wrong and they were completely self satisfied. And
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Speaker 3: the moment when they cut off JD Vance's microphone was pitiful.
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Speaker 3: It was nakedly biased. It was hackery. It was nothing
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Speaker 3: but partisan hackery, and I think CBS really got a
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Speaker 3: black eye.
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Speaker 2: the first question coming into the debate was one I
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Speaker 2: think we all knew it was going to be on
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Speaker 2: Israel and the attack on Israel from Iran and Waltz
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Speaker 2: was very, very very nervous, you could tell. But he
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Speaker 2: also didn't know what to do because there's a hard
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Speaker 2: part of the Democratic Party, especially him in Minnesota, with
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Speaker 2: the extremists there that hate Israel and they're the ones
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Speaker 2: that are protesting and supporting the terrorists. And when he
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Speaker 2: came out, he had a little bit of an oops
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Speaker 2: listen carefully.
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Speaker 4: I ran our Israel's ability to be able to defend
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Speaker 4: itself is absolutely fundamental getting its hostages back It's hostages.
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Speaker 2: I was like, come on, man, you got to do
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Speaker 2: a little bit better than this. But it tells you
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Speaker 2: where the Democratic Party is right now. They don't want
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Speaker 2: to come out and defend Israel too much, but they
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Speaker 2: know they have to defend him on the face tonight.
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Speaker 1: And it was this weird, awkward moment for him.
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Speaker 3: Well, and look, he had a talking point that was
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Speaker 3: written for him for his handlers, by his handlers, that
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Speaker 3: was to say, Israel has a right to defend itself
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Speaker 3: and the hostages should be returned. And so those are
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Speaker 3: the two sentences he was told to say. And then
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Speaker 3: he immediately said, but we have to address the humanitarian
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Speaker 3: crisis in Gaza, because that's really what the Democrat Party
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Speaker 3: is worried about, is that too many Hamas and Hezbela
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Speaker 3: terrorists are being killed. And so he had to throw
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Speaker 3: that in. What he didn't say, you know what, he
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Speaker 3: didn't say a word about Iran attacking Israel, firing, not
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Speaker 3: a word at Israel. Look, Iran just just just pummeled
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Speaker 3: Israel with missiles and that is a major escalation. Now
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Speaker 3: Iran has been funding Hamas and funding Hesbel that's been
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Speaker 3: fighting through proxies, but this is now Iran directly attacking Israel.
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Speaker 3: And the question he was asked is would he support
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Speaker 3: Israel striking back? And you know what he didn't answer.
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Speaker 3: He did not want to answer. He did not want
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Speaker 3: to answer at all. And and you know, critically the
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Speaker 3: opening of his answer. Tim Waltz's answer was this crisis
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Speaker 3: began on October seventh. Well, that's actually wrong. This crisis
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Speaker 3: began in January of twenty twenty one, when Joe Biden
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Speaker 3: and Kamala Harris came in. Yeah, when they began flooding
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Speaker 3: one hundred billion dollars to Iran, that's when the crisis.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, when they came in, remember what
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Speaker 3: was happening. Just weeks before, we had peace flourishing in
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Speaker 3: the Middle East. We had the Abraham Accords signed on
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Speaker 3: the south lawn of the White House. I was there
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Speaker 3: for the signing of the Abraham Accords. You know what,
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Speaker 3: not a single Democrat showed up for the signing of
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Speaker 3: the Abraham Accords, not a single Democrat Senator, not a
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Speaker 3: single Democrat House member.
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Speaker 2: I did not realize that none of them showed up.
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Speaker 2: And that was the deal that dealt with the word
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Speaker 2: their obsessed with, which is peace?
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Speaker 3: Right, Yes, it was. It was historic peace. It was
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Speaker 3: the Arabs and the Israelis coming together and signing historic
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Speaker 3: peace accords. And not only did no Democrats sign up
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Speaker 3: at the signing end. Do you know what Joe Biden
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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris instructed the State Department what was that? In writing?
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Speaker 3: They said you were not allowed to use the words
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Speaker 3: Abraham accurts don't even call them what they were called.
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Speaker 3: They were instructed to call them normalization agreements, but do
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Speaker 3: not use apparently acknowledging Father Abraham as too much and
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Speaker 3: anything that Trump did they were not allowed to make
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Speaker 3: reference to. But explicitly, the State Department was instructed, don't
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Speaker 3: use the words Abraham a courts. So we went from
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Speaker 3: historic peace, the first peace agreements signed between Israelis and
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Speaker 3: Arabs in four decades to suddenly Joe Biden Kamala Harris
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Speaker 3: come in and they start flooding cash into Iran, and
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Speaker 3: Iran starts flooding cash into Hamas and Hesbela that paid
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Speaker 3: for the death squads on October seventh, and Tim Waltz
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Speaker 3: had not a word to say about that, not a
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Speaker 3: word to say about thee hundred billion dollars that Kamala
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Speaker 3: Harris gave as a gift to Iran. And you know
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Speaker 3: what is still giving today today Joe Biden and Kamala
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Speaker 3: Harris still refuse to enforce the oil sanctions against Iran.
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Speaker 3: They are literally funding the missiles that were fired on
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Speaker 3: Iran today. In a very real sense, Kamala Harris paid
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Speaker 3: for those missiles.
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Speaker 1: It's shocking.
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Speaker 2: Also, the media when you're watching this. They didn't ask
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Speaker 2: about sanctions. They also didn't ask about hearers and what
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Speaker 2: the response should be from this administration, right because she's.
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Speaker 3: In the administer. To be fair, they did. Their question was,
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Speaker 3: would you support a preemptive strike by Israel against Iran?
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Speaker 3: And now it's not actually preempted because it is in
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Speaker 3: responsevery attack, So the word preemptive is a loaded lefty word.
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Speaker 3: It's not preemptive if you're defending yourself after you've been attacked.
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Speaker 3: But that was the question they asked, and to be clear,
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Speaker 3: when asked, would you support it? Kamala is the sitting VP,
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Speaker 3: and we know Joe Biden is non COMPASSMENTUS. I don't
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Speaker 3: know if he's passed out on the beach in Delaware
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Speaker 3: or what he's doing.
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Speaker 2: But he didn't spend almost two hours on the phone,
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Speaker 2: he said this weekend talking about hurricane stuff. Almost two hours. Well,
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Speaker 2: you know, and look, that's a lot of time for him.
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Speaker 3: I believe that because when my girls were young, we
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Speaker 3: had an app on the phone that was the wheels
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Speaker 3: on the bus go round and round. And I believe
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Speaker 3: he spent two hours on the phone, perhaps with an
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Speaker 3: app like.
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Speaker 2: That, but the question that they should have asked was,
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Speaker 2: are you, guys, what would you do differently? What would
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Speaker 2: you advocate for? What would you support sanctions? I mean
13:21
Speaker 2: you and I talked about this in our show on Monday.
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Speaker 2: There was if and correct me if my numbers are wrong,
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Speaker 2: but I'm quoting you. It was three hundred thousand barrels
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Speaker 2: a day is what a RAM was producing when Trump
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Speaker 2: was in office.
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Speaker 1: It's now two million barrels.
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Speaker 3: Well, and I wish JD had provided more specifics on that.
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Speaker 3: That answer could have been tighter with more facts on it.
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Speaker 2: And it tells you like and the question I wish
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Speaker 2: they would have asked them is both them like, hey guys,
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Speaker 2: are you would you right now? Should there move more
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Speaker 2: sanctions or should they be enforcing the sanctions? Or even
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Speaker 2: the question, hey, why is your running mate Kamala Harris
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Speaker 2: not doing more to enforce the sanctions.
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Speaker 3: There to stop I ran from murdering Donald Trump?
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Speaker 2: Yes, And that didn't come up tonight, which I was
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Speaker 2: also shocked by because we talked about this again in
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Speaker 2: Monday's pod. You have a RAN that's funding and recruiting
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Speaker 2: assassins a takeout Donald Trump and other former leaders in
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Speaker 2: our government and as they're doing that, no one asked
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Speaker 2: that question tonight.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, look at it now. I will say a point
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Speaker 3: that Jad made on this that was very effective is
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Speaker 3: when he looked at the camera and he asked the
14:32
Speaker 3: American people, he said, think back in your lifetime, what
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Speaker 3: president has not had a major military conflict during his presidency?
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Speaker 3: And he said, I'm forty years old, and there's only
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Speaker 3: one president that you could answer yes to, and that
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Speaker 3: is Donald J. Trump.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: That was a very effective point, and I think it
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Speaker 3: probably made some people think. And Waltz had no response
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Speaker 3: to that other than well, well, but you know, I
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Speaker 3: don't like Trump and other people don't like Trump. But
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Speaker 3: the simple point that we had peace when Trump was
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Speaker 3: president and we now have war, not just in Israel
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Speaker 3: but in Ukraine. When you have a week in an
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Speaker 3: effective commander in chief, that contrast was pretty stark.
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Speaker 2: I also thought there was another narrative tonight that really
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Speaker 2: got blown up, and that was the obsession by the
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Speaker 2: media to label jd Vance's strange or weird.
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Speaker 1: He's a weird guy's odd.
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Speaker 2: I think he came across as very likable, very normal,
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Speaker 2: came across as a dad and I think that also
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Speaker 2: could help Donald Trump significantly.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, look, I think that's right. And I
15:38
Speaker 3: will say one of the things that surprised me. I
15:42
Speaker 3: thought this debate was going to be nasty. You and
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Speaker 3: I both said that before. You were like, dude, they
15:47
Speaker 3: don't like each other. We both knew that, but I
15:48
Speaker 3: thought it was going to be nasty too. Look, my
15:50
Speaker 3: sense is that they really dislike each other, although to
15:53
Speaker 3: be fair, I haven't talked to JD about that, so
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Speaker 3: I don't know firsthand from him. It just the appearance
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Speaker 3: from the media and the general milieu, as it appears
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Speaker 3: that neither one of them likes each other. And so
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Speaker 3: I thought, you know, I'd used an analogy that are
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Speaker 3: going to be rolling around in the mud. This is
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Speaker 3: gonna be a mud wrestling match, and it wasn't. And
16:12
Speaker 3: both of them, neither of them had even a single
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Speaker 3: really nasty line, which which is a little surprising. If
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Speaker 3: you'd asked me to bet beforehand, I would have I
16:24
Speaker 3: would have bet it's more likely that they each had
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Speaker 3: a dozen nasty lines at each other than Nero and IT,
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Speaker 3: And in fact, both of them more than once praised
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Speaker 3: the other one, which was an interesting. I don't know
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Speaker 3: if that how much of that was genuine, how much
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Speaker 3: of that was strategic, how much of the campaign said, Look,
16:44
Speaker 3: your job is to be likable and relatable.
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Speaker 1: But but and if it was, it was a great strategy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And and both did so multiple times said said,
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Speaker 3: you know, look when when Tim Waltz described how his
16:57
Speaker 3: son had witnessed a shooting and which which I didn't
17:01
Speaker 3: know either, and that's that's horrific. You and I are
17:03
Speaker 3: both dads, certainly wouldn't want our kids to see a shooting.
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Speaker 3: And I thought, JD when it came back and said, hey,
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Speaker 3: I didn't know your son had done I'm really sorry.
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Speaker 3: That's that's like horrible one, no one, that's horrible. That
17:16
Speaker 3: was real and genuine, And I thought, and there were
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Speaker 3: moments back and forth for both of them like that.
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Speaker 2: When you look at how this played out tonight, You
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Speaker 2: and I have said this before, and you go back
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Speaker 2: in history. VP debates don't really usually matter. Does it
17:30
Speaker 2: matter a little bit more this time?
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Speaker 1: Do you think? Because there was only one present debate?
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Speaker 1: Number one and two?
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Speaker 2: Because if Donald Trump is he's running for four years, right,
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Speaker 2: there's no chance in eight years here? Does that change
17:43
Speaker 2: the perception of voters as well.
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Speaker 3: Look damned if I know, I will say I think
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Speaker 3: this probably mattered. At the end of the day. Historically,
17:53
Speaker 3: VP debates don't matter much. If you think back to
17:58
Speaker 3: to VP debates about the only time, I'm willing to
18:03
Speaker 3: guess you could only remember one moment two moments from
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Speaker 3: VP debates, you probably remember the fly landing on Mike
18:09
Speaker 3: Pence's head.
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Speaker 1: And that will be seared into my brain forever.
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Speaker 3: Yes, especially since Saturday Night Live had a giant fly
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Speaker 3: and then they did a good job.
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Speaker 1: They did a great job with that.
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Speaker 3: But the only line I bet you you can quote,
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Speaker 3: and you're about as much of a political junkie as anyone,
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Speaker 3: is the only line I bet you you can quote
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Speaker 3: is Lloyd Benson to Dan Quayle saying I knew Jack Kennedy.
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Speaker 3: Jack Kennedy was my friend. Yeah, And Senator you're no.
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Speaker 2: Jude Kennedy bingo, and that that was a damn line,
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Speaker 2: And that was that was what was that eighty eight
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Speaker 2: or nineth.
18:38
Speaker 3: That was it was? It was Ducaccus Benson eighty eight.
18:42
Speaker 3: And by the way, Dan Quayle and George Bush won,
18:45
Speaker 3: So it didn't change the outcoming election. It did kind
18:48
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18:52
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18:55
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18:57
Speaker 1: It hurt him.
18:58
Speaker 3: It was clearly rehearsed, It was landed very effectively, which
19:04
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19:08
Speaker 1: Yeah.
19:08
Speaker 2: And it was also I think to find Dan Quail
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Speaker 2: as a candidate on his own yeap, which was sad well.
19:14
Speaker 3: And and and the reason it was prepared is because
19:17
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19:20
Speaker 3: I'm the same age Jack Kennedy was because he was
19:22
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19:25
Speaker 1: Looked young if you remember, he looked really look he
19:28
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19:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was Benson was very able to deliver
19:32
Speaker 3: that line. And it was but historically VP debates have
19:37
Speaker 3: not moved votes one way or the other. I will
19:40
Speaker 3: say I was glad so for most of the debate,
19:46
Speaker 3: JD remembered that his target was Kamala Harrison, not Tim Waaltz.
19:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said that a lot. He used her name
19:53
Speaker 2: a lot.
19:54
Speaker 3: And in fact, one of the better moments, and I
19:56
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19:58
Speaker 3: JD said said to t Waltz, said, You've got a
20:01
Speaker 3: really tough job. I feel bad for how tough a
20:04
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20:06
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20:09
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Speaker 1: All right, take a listen to this clip.
22:12
Speaker 2: It is actually a really funny one where you have
22:16
Speaker 2: JD saying it's tough having your job having to defend
22:19
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris.
22:21
Speaker 5: Elebnard Waltz just did as he said, first of all,
22:23
Speaker 5: Donald Trump has to listen to the experts, and then
22:25
Speaker 5: when he acknowledged that the experts screwed up, he said, well,
22:27
Speaker 5: Donald Trump didn't do nearly as good of a.
22:29
Speaker 3: Job as this. That's a coach general as he did.
22:32
Speaker 3: So what Tim Waltz is doing. And I honestly, Tim,
22:34
Speaker 3: I think you got a tough job here because you've
22:36
Speaker 3: got to play whack a mole.
22:37
Speaker 5: You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver rising
22:40
Speaker 5: take home pay, which of course he did. You've got
22:42
Speaker 5: to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver lower inflation, which
22:46
Speaker 5: of course he did. And then you simultaneously got to
22:48
Speaker 5: defend Kamala Harris's atrocious economic record, which has made gas, groceries,
22:53
Speaker 5: and housing unaffordable fair American citizens. I was raised by
22:57
Speaker 5: a woman who would sometimes go into medical day so
23:00
Speaker 5: that she could put food on the table in our household.
23:03
Speaker 5: I know what it's like to not be able to
23:05
Speaker 5: afford the things that you need to afford. We can
23:08
Speaker 5: do so much better to all of you watching. We
23:10
Speaker 5: can get back to an America that's affordable again. We
23:13
Speaker 5: just got to get back to common sense economic principles.
23:16
Speaker 4: I hope we have a conversation on healthcare.
23:18
Speaker 1: Then Senator and governor.
23:19
Speaker 3: Please, thank you, Margaret. We have a lot.
23:22
Speaker 2: I love how they they jump in there, by the way,
23:23
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you.
23:25
Speaker 1: We gotta we got to move on from that real quick.
23:27
Speaker 1: You just you just smacked him around a little bit.
23:30
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, I mean that they were They were eager
23:33
Speaker 3: to help out Waltz. They were also on the fact checking.
23:36
Speaker 3: You know, we talked about it at at the open
23:39
Speaker 3: of the pod when they cut off JD's mike. Now
23:43
Speaker 3: that was a moment when number one Kamala was getting
23:47
Speaker 3: beat up hard on immigration. Yeah, but number two the
23:52
Speaker 3: moderators jumped in and and JD talked about the Haitian
23:56
Speaker 3: illegal immigrants who are in Springfield. Oh, and you know,
24:01
Speaker 3: they wanted to reprise the whole cat thing. I was surprised.
24:03
Speaker 3: I also, I would have lost a bet if you
24:06
Speaker 3: had given me the odds on whether the word cat
24:08
Speaker 3: would be said in the debate. I would have bet yes,
24:10
Speaker 3: and I would have lost that bet. So so that
24:12
Speaker 3: the moderators did not say that, nor did Tim Waltz.
24:16
Speaker 3: But JD rightly said, look, this massive influx of illegal
24:20
Speaker 3: aliens is putting an enormous burden on the residents of
24:22
Speaker 3: Springfield and every other city in Ohio and every other
24:24
Speaker 3: city in the country. And the moderators chimed into correct him,
24:29
Speaker 3: well those are legal immigrants, and he said, blowney, yeah,
24:33
Speaker 3: and this is a fiction. So look, we have a
24:37
Speaker 3: legal immigration system, and what has happened is Joe Biden
24:40
Speaker 3: and Kamala Harris have abused our immigration law. So the
24:45
Speaker 3: three hundred thousand plus Haitians and Nicaraguans and Cubans and
24:48
Speaker 3: Venezuelans they've flown in, they've flown in indo programs where
24:51
Speaker 3: they say, well, these guys are all now legal just
24:53
Speaker 3: because we've decided to open the doors and call everyone
24:56
Speaker 3: we let in legal. That is not legal in any
24:59
Speaker 3: ordinary sense. They are illegal immigrants. And in particular, JD
25:03
Speaker 3: rightly talks about the app CBP one, which we've talked
25:06
Speaker 3: about on this podcast before, an app for illegal immigrants
25:10
Speaker 3: to apply online for Kamala Harris to let him in
25:12
Speaker 3: our open border.
25:13
Speaker 1: And they did not like him saying this because it
25:15
Speaker 1: was fact checking them.
25:16
Speaker 3: It was they were fact checking him. They were wrong,
25:20
Speaker 3: he countered him, and then they cut off his mic
25:23
Speaker 3: right when when when Tim Waltz was saying, well, well,
25:26
Speaker 3: you know this has been around for years. CBB one
25:28
Speaker 3: was just created by Joe Biden. Kamala Harris. Here play
25:31
Speaker 3: the clip when they cut off his mic, because it
25:32
Speaker 3: really is revealing of the enormous bias and the factual
25:38
Speaker 3: just mendacity of the CBS moderators.
25:42
Speaker 1: Thank you, Senator, we having so much.
25:44
Speaker 3: To get to, Margot.
25:45
Speaker 1: I think it's important economy thing.
25:47
Speaker 3: Margaret.
25:48
Speaker 5: The rules were that you got in a fact check,
25:50
Speaker 5: and since you're fact checking me, I think it's important
25:53
Speaker 5: to say what's actually going on. So there's an application
25:56
Speaker 5: called the CBP one app where you can go on
25:58
Speaker 5: as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for
26:02
Speaker 5: parole and be granted legal status at the wave of
26:06
Speaker 5: a Kamala Harris open border wand that is not a
26:10
Speaker 5: person coming in applying for a green cart and waiting
26:12
Speaker 5: for ten years. Thank you, senatortation of a legal immigration,
26:16
Speaker 5: Margaret bi.
26:16
Speaker 6: Thank you, senator for describing the legal process. Have so
26:21
Speaker 6: much to get, Senator.
26:23
Speaker 1: So much the book since nineteen ninety, Thank you, gentlemen.
26:26
Speaker 5: We want to have that has not been on the books.
26:30
Speaker 2: It's something.
26:32
Speaker 6: Gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut.
26:36
Speaker 6: We have so much we want to get to. Thank
26:38
Speaker 6: you for explaining the legal process.
26:40
Speaker 1: I love that the legal process.
26:42
Speaker 3: I mean that is so smarmy, like arrogant, conting, snarky. Look,
26:52
Speaker 3: these there's no doubt they're political bias. There's no doubt
26:56
Speaker 3: they love Kamala Harris. There's no doubt they're voting Foramala Harris.
27:00
Speaker 3: Thank you for describing the legal process. No, CBP one
27:04
Speaker 3: is not the legal process. It is an app designed
27:07
Speaker 3: by Kamala Harrison Joe Biden to facilitate a massive invasion
27:12
Speaker 3: of this country.
27:14
Speaker 1: And they and they shut the mic off.
27:16
Speaker 2: I actually am glad they did it because it's just
27:19
Speaker 2: And when anybody says in the future, well, there's no
27:21
Speaker 2: bias to me and Mike, really did you see? And
27:23
Speaker 2: I love that she says, they try to act like
27:25
Speaker 2: we shut both your micros off. No, you were shutting
27:28
Speaker 2: down jd Vance, who was fact checking.
27:31
Speaker 3: You and pointing out that she was lying.
27:33
Speaker 1: And pointing out she design we got to move on.
27:35
Speaker 1: We have other important things.
27:36
Speaker 2: And by the way, I promise you that moment if
27:37
Speaker 2: you pulled the audience in America watching, they would have
27:40
Speaker 2: loved to have heard what JD.
27:42
Speaker 1: Van said.
27:42
Speaker 2: Like course you would have been like, boh, I want
27:44
Speaker 2: to hear this right, Like wait, give me a second.
27:47
Speaker 3: That's absolutely right, But CBS didn't want the audience to
27:50
Speaker 3: hear that. You know, there was another moment on the
27:53
Speaker 3: same topic of the border where Tim Waltz said the
27:57
Speaker 3: most brazen lie of the entire devay and when when
28:02
Speaker 3: Waltz was back pedaling and trying to defend the disaster
28:04
Speaker 3: of Kamala's open borders, Tim Waltz said, quote, border crossings
28:10
Speaker 3: are down compared to when Donald Trump left office. Yeah, now,
28:15
Speaker 3: which is a lie. And you and I both are
28:17
Speaker 3: looking at the TV like that's not true. That that
28:20
Speaker 3: is not slightly true. It's not kind of true. It's
28:25
Speaker 3: not in any way. And let me give you the stats.
28:27
Speaker 3: So in December twenty twenty, the total encounters with illegals
28:32
Speaker 3: was eighty nine thousand and seventy two. In August twenty
28:36
Speaker 3: twenty four, the total encounters was one hundred and fifty
28:40
Speaker 3: eighty nine hundred and eighty eight, so it was nearly
28:44
Speaker 3: twice as many. And and mind you look, there's been
28:46
Speaker 3: a slight dip in the last couple of months because
28:50
Speaker 3: Biden and Harris are trying to pretend to do something
28:52
Speaker 3: about the border, and they're just doing it as electioneering.
28:56
Speaker 3: And to put it in, in all of fiscal year
28:59
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, do you know how many encounters with illegals
29:02
Speaker 3: there were under Trump? How many six hundred and forty six,
29:05
Speaker 3: eight hundred and twenty.
29:06
Speaker 1: Two that's like a month in this administration.
29:09
Speaker 3: In fiscal year twenty four year to date, and by
29:11
Speaker 3: the way, we're not all the way through twenty four.
29:14
Speaker 3: Do you know how many there're been? How many two million,
29:16
Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty six thousand, six hundred and forty six.
29:19
Speaker 1: Yeah.
29:20
Speaker 3: And by the way, these these brave fact checkers, did
29:25
Speaker 3: you notice the CBS cut off anybody. They say, wait
29:29
Speaker 3: a second, Governor, you just said that border encounters were
29:32
Speaker 3: lower now than they were under Trump. That is flat
29:37
Speaker 3: out false. They didn't say that because they're not in
29:41
Speaker 3: the business of fact checking Democrats.
29:43
Speaker 2: Well, and they also didn't bring up something else that
29:46
Speaker 2: I actually thought there's a missopportunity. I think JD had
29:49
Speaker 2: a great night, but I wish you would have seized
29:51
Speaker 2: on this the acting ICE Director put out all of
29:56
Speaker 2: these numbers that we've talked about here, Yes, about the
29:59
Speaker 2: number of rapists, yes, that were let go that we
30:01
Speaker 2: knew were rapists, the number of murderers that were let go,
30:04
Speaker 2: and the number of those that had been charged with
30:06
Speaker 2: Haines's crimes, and we still let go into this country.
30:10
Speaker 1: And that didn't see the light of day tonight.
30:12
Speaker 2: And it's again it goes back to the moderators, like,
30:15
Speaker 2: it's shame on them for not actually talking about the
30:18
Speaker 2: Acting ICE Director saying this when they're going to talk
30:21
Speaker 2: about the border, how do you talk about the border
30:23
Speaker 2: without that?
30:23
Speaker 1: But I do.
30:24
Speaker 2: And again it's debating's tough, and I want to be clear,
30:27
Speaker 2: it's tough, But there was a missed opportunity there. I'm
30:30
Speaker 2: shocked that JAD didn't really try to hammer that that
30:33
Speaker 2: point home.
30:34
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, look, I think JD did a very good
30:36
Speaker 3: job tonight. I was surprised that the thirteen thousand convicted
30:41
Speaker 3: murderers did not come up. It's such a powerful number
30:45
Speaker 3: and CBS hasn't covered it, the news hasn't covered it,
30:48
Speaker 3: And so this debate was an opportunity for That's actually
30:52
Speaker 3: something that I wish that like it had been slowly
30:56
Speaker 3: explained that they'd taken a little bit of time. You
30:59
Speaker 3: need to unders stand that right now today there are
31:03
Speaker 3: more than thirteen thousand illegal aliens who are free, who
31:09
Speaker 3: have not been apprehended, who are convicted murderers. There is
31:15
Speaker 3: nothing whatsoever stopping Kamala Harris from picking up all thirteen
31:20
Speaker 3: thousand of them tomorrow. Legally, she has every right to
31:24
Speaker 3: do so. They are here illegally, they can be detained,
31:28
Speaker 3: they can be deported. And yet and there are another
31:31
Speaker 3: two thousand roughly illegal aliens who have pending murder charges,
31:38
Speaker 3: so they're being charged with murder, and you know what,
31:40
Speaker 3: they're free too. There is nothing zero preventing Kamala Harris
31:46
Speaker 3: from picking up those two thousand. And I would have
31:48
Speaker 3: loved to see JD turn to Tim Walts and say, Governor,
31:52
Speaker 3: why doesn't Kamala Harris pick up those fifteen thousand murderers
31:57
Speaker 3: right now? And what would you say to the mothers
32:01
Speaker 3: of the children murdered by these illegal alien murderers that
32:05
Speaker 3: you continue to allow on the street. Yeah, he wouldn't
32:08
Speaker 3: have an answer to that.
32:09
Speaker 1: No, he wouldn't have an answer to that.
32:10
Speaker 2: And look again, like I said, debating is hard, and
32:13
Speaker 2: I think one of the things that he did really
32:14
Speaker 2: well was he talked about the fact that people are
32:18
Speaker 2: suffering in this country because there's so many illegal immigrants,
32:21
Speaker 2: and it backfired on CBS. They were talking about the
32:24
Speaker 2: economy and they were talking about the housing crisis. It
32:27
Speaker 2: was a little bit later in the debate. Many people,
32:28
Speaker 2: if you didn't watch the whole debate, this was one
32:30
Speaker 2: of those moments. I think they actually buried it on purpose.
32:34
Speaker 2: They need to check a box, ask a question about
32:36
Speaker 2: the about housing. But there was a moment there where
32:39
Speaker 2: JD van sees on like, well, yeah, of course home
32:41
Speaker 2: prices are going.
32:42
Speaker 1: To be up.
32:43
Speaker 2: You let fifteen to twenty million people in this country,
32:45
Speaker 2: they got to have a roof over their head at night.
32:48
Speaker 2: They're competing with you, especially for low cost housing and apartments,
32:52
Speaker 2: which is skyrocket and price undoubtedly.
32:55
Speaker 3: And CBS really beclowned themselves on this because because one
32:58
Speaker 3: of the moderators chimed in and said, well do you
33:00
Speaker 3: have any evidence of that? What proof do you have
33:02
Speaker 3: of that? And JD, to his credit, was prepared and said, well,
33:05
Speaker 3: actually there's a Federal Reserve study that lays out the
33:08
Speaker 3: impact of illegal immigration driving up the cost of housing,
33:11
Speaker 3: and we'll put that out on social media right now
33:13
Speaker 3: so you can go read the study. But he also
33:15
Speaker 3: made the point of just supply and demand. What do
33:18
Speaker 3: you think an additional eleven and a half million people
33:21
Speaker 3: is going to be bending housing is going to do?
33:24
Speaker 3: Do you do these houses magically get created from the sky?
33:27
Speaker 3: Is there a wand that makes makes them come into existence?
33:30
Speaker 3: And the moderators just didn't like that point, and so
33:36
Speaker 3: they were but they looked pretty silly when they asked
33:39
Speaker 3: if he had any evidence, and the answer was, well, yes.
33:41
Speaker 2: I love The other day on TV they were talking
33:43
Speaker 2: about the price of hotels in New York City of skyrocketed. Yeah,
33:46
Speaker 2: because I think it's like one out of x summer
33:48
Speaker 2: of every hotels is filled with illegal immigrants.
33:51
Speaker 1: They're taking away hotel room of course.
33:54
Speaker 2: So then they get more for the hotel rooms that
33:57
Speaker 2: are available. You and I I don't even know if
34:00
Speaker 2: did you know I got stranded in New York City
34:03
Speaker 2: and there wasn't a single hotel room after we came
34:06
Speaker 2: back from the airport.
34:06
Speaker 1: Did I tell you this? So this is how bad
34:09
Speaker 1: it is.
34:09
Speaker 2: And this is when I learned like really, firsthand, I
34:12
Speaker 2: went the airport, was on the plane, was on the
34:14
Speaker 2: plane for like four hours. They finally cancel the fight.
34:17
Speaker 2: We pulled back up the gate and they say go
34:18
Speaker 2: back in the city. So immediately get on the phone.
34:20
Speaker 2: I called Fox. I'm there for TV. I'm like, hey,
34:22
Speaker 2: I'm going to need a hotel room. And I got
34:23
Speaker 2: to get back to the city. And then I get
34:25
Speaker 2: into a fight back in the morning to Houston, and
34:27
Speaker 2: she was like, no problem, I'll callit in a minute.
34:30
Speaker 2: Go ahead and head down the cars and we'll get
34:31
Speaker 2: you back to the city. She said, I've never seen
34:33
Speaker 2: this before. There's not a single hotel room in the city.
34:37
Speaker 2: And I'm like not. And it wasn't like there was
34:40
Speaker 2: like the super Bowl going on. This is a normal
34:42
Speaker 2: Tuesday in New York. And I was like, are you kidding. Well,
34:45
Speaker 2: then I open up my app and I'm like, I
34:46
Speaker 2: get on Expedia. There are no hotel rooms. They start
34:50
Speaker 2: looking in New Jersey, They're looking everywhere. Finally, the only
34:54
Speaker 2: option was to go back to the city and hope
34:56
Speaker 2: that someone doesn't come to a hotel room. I set
35:00
Speaker 2: outside of the hotel. I always stay at know the
35:02
Speaker 2: manager and I walked in. He's like, Benny, He's like,
35:05
Speaker 2: this is because of all the illegal immigrants in the city.
35:07
Speaker 2: He goes, there's no hotel rooms to deal with a capacity.
35:10
Speaker 2: I set outside to one in the morning until finally
35:13
Speaker 2: someone canceled the hotel and then he checked me into
35:15
Speaker 2: that room at one o'clock. So I sat there from
35:17
Speaker 2: seven to one am. My fight was at six and
35:20
Speaker 2: mornings I slept for like three hours. And he said,
35:22
Speaker 2: this is what they've done to our city, referring to
35:24
Speaker 2: the illegal immigrants and how many have come in. And
35:28
Speaker 2: when I say there was an it was there was
35:30
Speaker 2: not a hotel room in the city. That's what's happening
35:33
Speaker 2: now because of legal immigration Centater. I want to talk
35:36
Speaker 2: and wrap on the issue of style. You know, you
35:39
Speaker 2: and I both thought this was going to be a
35:42
Speaker 2: intense debate. They don't like each other, They're going to
35:44
Speaker 2: throw down. I think we're also gotten kind of used
35:46
Speaker 2: to that with Donald Trump. That's what we've seen over
35:49
Speaker 2: the last several years. Joe Biden likes to do that
35:51
Speaker 2: as well. We've seen a lot of the Republican debates
35:55
Speaker 2: primary debates.
35:56
Speaker 3: By the way Hillary and Trump was nasty. They were
35:57
Speaker 3: Bill nasty.
35:58
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean down and tonight I didn't.
36:03
Speaker 2: I did enjoy a little bit of civility, absolutely, and
36:06
Speaker 2: that was something we haven't seen. But I also think
36:10
Speaker 2: if it was a strategy by the by the Trump team,
36:13
Speaker 2: Hey you're gonna be the likable guy. You're gonna try
36:16
Speaker 2: to bring more people into the tent. I want you
36:19
Speaker 2: to walk away really thinking that you're the right choice.
36:23
Speaker 2: They nailed it. If that was the intent tonight.
36:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, I think JD came across as as real
36:29
Speaker 3: and relatable. He did a good job of telling his
36:32
Speaker 3: own family story and his own background, I mean his
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Speaker 3: you know, he wrote a best selling book, Hill Billy LG.
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Speaker 3: Was made into a movie, a very very good movie,
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Speaker 3: a movie that's terrific to watch. And but yet a
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Speaker 3: lot of people don't know that story. He's been a
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Speaker 3: caricatured just just like Trump has. And and I think
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Speaker 3: tonight made real progress making him seem like a real person,
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Speaker 3: seem like a husband and a father, and and you know,
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Speaker 3: someone who is has has journeyed from very humble beginnings
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Speaker 3: to to right now being the nominee to be vice
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Speaker 3: president of the United States. That's that's one heck of
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Speaker 3: a journey.
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