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Epic Raid Frees Israeli Hostages-from the "Journalist" Who Was Holding them, plus Spies who Lied about Hunter's Laptop · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome.
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Speaker 2: It is verdict with Senator Ted Kruz Ben Ferguson with
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Speaker 2: your senator, You've come back from one incredible trip, and
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Speaker 2: I know that that is something that you have a
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Speaker 2: lot to talk about with Zelensky having a meeting with him.
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Speaker 2: But there's also some very important breaking news even before that.
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Speaker 3: We're going to get to. Well, that's exactly right. I'm
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Speaker 3: back in America, back in Texas, very glad to be
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Speaker 3: back home, and there is a lot going on in
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Speaker 3: the world. Number one, we have what's happening in Israel.
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Speaker 3: The Daring Rescue, the IDF went in and rescued four
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Speaker 3: American hostages. Of course, the corporate media went crazy blaming Israel,
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Speaker 3: and then it was discovered that among the captors that
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Speaker 3: were holding the hostages was a quote unquote journalist who's
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Speaker 3: in fact a Hamas terrorist. We're going to break that
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Speaker 3: down along with the rabidly anti Israel pro Hamas protests
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Speaker 3: outside of the White House, Joe Biden and the Democrats
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Speaker 3: do nothing as protesters deface monuments and assault law enforcement officers.
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Speaker 3: On top of that, we're going to get into the
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Speaker 3: Hunter Biden trial, and in particular, it is now admitted
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Speaker 3: that the laptop is real. It is accurate. The Biden
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Speaker 3: administration is arguing that in court, and everyone who lied
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Speaker 3: about it for week after week and month after month
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Speaker 3: and year after year crickets from all of them. None
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Speaker 3: of them are admitting, from James Clapper to Tony Blinken
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Speaker 3: to all of the president's liars that lied on his behalf,
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Speaker 3: they're suddenly silent, and of course the media doesn't care.
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Speaker 3: And then finally we're going to get into the meeting
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Speaker 3: I had just two days ago with President Zelenski while
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Speaker 3: we were in France. We sat down and talked about
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Speaker 3: what's happening in Ukraine. I'm going to tell you about
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Speaker 3: that as well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really excited to hear exactly how that meeting went.
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Speaker 2: So one of the things that so many of you
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Speaker 2: what has happened there. It is a great victory, especially,
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Speaker 2: I think just for morale and to know that some
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Speaker 2: of the hostages are still a live. Israeli officials came
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Speaker 2: out and said they had a raid. They were able
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Speaker 2: to free four hostages from two different locations. BB made
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Speaker 2: it clear, we won't stop until they're all home.
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Speaker 4: That was his message.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. The IDF sent in special forces
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Speaker 3: and they rescued four hostages. This was in Gaza. They
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Speaker 3: went in and they found them and they got them out.
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Speaker 3: The four hostages Almagh Mayor John Noah, Argamani, Andre Koslov
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Speaker 3: and Shlomy Ziv with the four hostages, three men and
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Speaker 3: a woman. They had been hostages since October seventh, and
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Speaker 3: the IDF went in they got them out. It is incredible.
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Speaker 3: That is cause for celebration, but it is also it
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Speaker 3: really is striking. As soon as it happened, the corporate
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Speaker 3: media immediately began attacking who not Amas, attacking Israel, and
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Speaker 3: their narrative was, well, you shouldn't have killed Palestinians.
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Speaker 1: Doing it, and and and they.
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Speaker 3: Began by saying by focusing on a Gaza journalist, a
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Speaker 3: Gaza journalist who wrote for Al Jazeera uh and and
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Speaker 3: who has been a vocal journalist writing on writing on
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Speaker 3: what is happening in Gaza. He wrote for the Palestine Chronicle,
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Speaker 3: which is an American five oh one c. Three and
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Speaker 3: and he was writing regularly. Well, it turns out this
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Speaker 3: quote unquote journalist also happens to be a Hamas terrorist
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Speaker 3: who was keeping three hostages in his home for months
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Speaker 3: upon months upon months. And so yes, he was killed.
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Speaker 3: The terrorist was killed when they rescued the hostage from
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Speaker 3: his house where he was keeping them captive.
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Speaker 2: You look at the story when it broke, and it's
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Speaker 2: it's two things that the media, even in this country,
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Speaker 2: basedly overlooked that were incredibly important. Number One, there were casualties,
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Speaker 2: because apparently there was munitions in and around the hostages.
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Speaker 2: And number two, they hid these hostages in a heavily
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Speaker 2: populated area where people like a quote journalist would be living.
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Speaker 2: And this was nothing more than human shield So yet
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Speaker 2: Israel goes in and saves for their own and even
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Speaker 2: the US media and many different media organizations around the
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Speaker 2: world started attacking Israel because, as they said, well, and
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Speaker 2: it's the people died, Well that is the fault of
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Speaker 2: Amas for using them as human shields.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's right.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 3: On Twitter, there was one doctor from Gaza who tweeted
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Speaker 3: out one of the people, the father of the SAMAS
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Speaker 3: terrorist and journalist, was also killed, and a doctor from
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Speaker 3: Gaza tweeted out the following red siren quote. Just learn
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Speaker 3: the heartbreaking news of the martyrdom of one of the
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Speaker 3: finest colleagues I've ever worked with, doctor Ahmed al Jamal
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Speaker 3: seventy three. He was tragically killed by the Israeli army
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Speaker 3: during the Nusurat massacre central Gaza strip, which claimed over
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Speaker 3: two hundred lives and injured hundreds.
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Speaker 1: And it's a.
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Speaker 3: Picture of this older man with a beard holding a baby,
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Speaker 3: and he's described as one of the finest colleagues he's
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Speaker 3: ever worked with, except he has this annoying little habit
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Speaker 3: of keeping hostages in his home. Mind you, he lived there,
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Speaker 3: so he was complicit in keeping the hostages captive. You
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Speaker 3: don't have three hostages living in your home in a
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Speaker 3: dense urban environment without knowing about it, without knowing about it,
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Speaker 3: withoutout being actively complicit. And yet we saw all of
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Speaker 3: the corporate media outlets echoing the stories that can you
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Speaker 3: believe those men Israelis killed an innocent doctor, killed an
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Speaker 3: innocent journalist. It's worth remembering the next time you see
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Speaker 3: a story being reported from quote journalists in Gaza, you
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Speaker 3: ought to ask yourself, okay, and is that does that
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Speaker 3: journalists have hostages in his home? Because that's that's the
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Speaker 3: environment we're talking about.
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Speaker 2: Well, and it's not just that I want to paint
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Speaker 2: a picture here that the media will not paint for you.
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Speaker 2: Apparently this journalist, it wasn't like he was living by
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Speaker 2: himself and basically turned his apartment into some military style prison.
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Speaker 2: He was living with his family there, So not just
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Speaker 2: did he know that he obviously has these hostages, but
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Speaker 2: you had to keep them alive, and there was obviously
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Speaker 2: amas coming and going and not only that you had
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Speaker 2: his family that knew it as well.
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Speaker 3: Yep, the quote unquote journalist. His name was Abdallah al Jamal,
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Speaker 3: and he had three of the hostages there. He had
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Speaker 3: Al mag Andre and Shlomy. So the three men were
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Speaker 3: hostages at his home along with his family, and his
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Speaker 3: family was killed. Well, you know what, if you're willing
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Speaker 3: to stand guard on hostages, you know people are saying, oh,
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Speaker 3: this is terrible. I'll give you a real easy way
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Speaker 3: not to be killed by commandos rescuing hostages. Don't take
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Speaker 3: hostages and keep them imprisoned in your home. If you
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Speaker 3: are a terrorist, you should not be surprised that you're
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Speaker 3: treated as a terrorist.
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Speaker 2: You look at this story and let's go back to
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Speaker 2: the bravery and the commitment from Israel and compare and
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Speaker 2: contrast that and bring this back home to this country.
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Speaker 2: There used to be and I talked about this extensively
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Speaker 2: on my show today that if you were an American
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Speaker 2: you almost had an invisible bubble around you when you
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Speaker 2: travel the world. Don't screw with that American, whether it's
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Speaker 2: in Mexico, whether it's in the Middle East, whether it's
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Speaker 2: anywhere in the world. When I traveled abroad in college.
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Speaker 2: I wasn't worried because I knew I was an American,
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Speaker 2: and I knew that that gave me another level of
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Speaker 2: protection from people messing with me, because if you mess
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Speaker 2: with me, you were messing with the United States of America.
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Speaker 2: That is gone now, that bubble, as I described it
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Speaker 2: as completely gone. And the idea that there's still American
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Speaker 2: citizens being held hostage and we're not hearing about them.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure the President could name any of their names.
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Speaker 2: The White House refuses to bring it up or talk
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Speaker 2: about it. And you look at what Israel's doing saying
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Speaker 2: We're coming for you, and we're going to keep coming
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Speaker 2: until we get you all back. Where is America's resolved,
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Speaker 2: for goodness sakes? And where are we with getting our
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Speaker 2: own citizens back?
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Speaker 3: Senator, look at it. It's absolutely pitiful. There are five
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Speaker 3: Americans that are still being held hostage, and the Biden
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Speaker 3: White House, as far as I can tell, is not
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Speaker 3: doing a damn thing to try to get them out.
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Speaker 3: What the Biden White House has done is Nonumber one,
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Speaker 3: harangue Israel from day one. Number two, blockade weapons from
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Speaker 3: going to Israel. Number three, send money to Gaza that
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Speaker 3: goes to Hamas and number four, pressure and use leverage
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Speaker 3: on Israel to try to get Israel to stop killing
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Speaker 3: the Hamas terrorists. That's what Biden has done. That's what
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Speaker 3: this administration has done. Can you imagine Biden's sending in
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Speaker 3: special forces to rescue American hostages. It's not imaginable because
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Speaker 3: he wouldn't do it. They're not focused on it. It's
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Speaker 3: not a priority. Look, I'm going to read you the
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Speaker 3: story from the Detroit News. In Detroit, Kamala Harris morns
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Speaker 3: Palestinians killed in Israeli hostage rescue. So that's her message.
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Speaker 3: The Vice President goes to Detroit. Mind you, dearborn, Michigan
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Speaker 3: has a huge Muslim population. They're terrified they're going to
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Speaker 3: lose Michigan, and so they're not worried about American hostages.
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Speaker 3: Is the Vice President's message. Oh, it is terrible that
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Speaker 3: these terrorists were killed. And by the way, it is
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Speaker 3: worth remembering also the next time you hear these numbers
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Speaker 3: given of civilian casualties, understand every one of these terrorists
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Speaker 3: who was actually keeping hostages prisoner. They were described in
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Speaker 3: the early media coverage as civilians. Yeah, great point that
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Speaker 3: that's the lie. And mind you, these hostages were not
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Speaker 3: in tunnels, they were not in military outlets, they were
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Speaker 3: in civilian apartment buildings. I mean Hamas deliberately surrounds hostages,
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Speaker 3: surrounds its terrorists with civilians, and when the media describes
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Speaker 3: people as civilians, many of the people the media call
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Speaker 3: civilians are not.
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Speaker 2: Will we get any more clarification from the White House
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Speaker 2: about any of this, like is there a plan? And look,
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Speaker 2: they always get to hide behind and understand it. There's
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Speaker 2: many times when you're dealing with the hostage situations like hey,
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Speaker 2: they go to the families like, hey, please don't do
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Speaker 2: anything publicly. We're working behind the scenes. You could actually
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Speaker 2: make things worse. We've seen that with Russia, for example.
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Speaker 2: They're still an American being held there. But we got
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Speaker 2: the WNBA star out and the families like we played
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Speaker 2: by the rules they gave us, which was to be silent,
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Speaker 2: be quiet. It didn't work, it didn't help, and so
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Speaker 2: this seems to be the get out of jail free
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Speaker 2: card for this White House. Consistently, when Americans are held hostage,
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Speaker 2: well it's we're working the back channels and we really
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Speaker 2: can't say much publicly, like, at what point does that
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Speaker 2: answer become unacceptable? And also to the family members who
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Speaker 2: are sitting there waiting for these updates.
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Speaker 3: Look, if the Biden White House is doing anything other
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Speaker 3: than undermining Israel to try to get the American hostages out,
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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, and they're doing it silently,
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Speaker 3: but it is difficult to imagine. It's difficult to imagine
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Speaker 3: this administration doing anything remotely like what Israel carried out.
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Speaker 3: And you know, you contrast it, you contrast it to
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Speaker 3: Israel in the Ntegi Raid.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 3: Look, sometimes Ben, people ask me, how is it that
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Speaker 3: a guy who is a Cuban Texan Southern Baptist ended
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Speaker 3: up as the leading defender of Israel in the United
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Speaker 3: States Senate. And there are lots of reasons for that,
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Speaker 3: but it is very much a passion for me, and
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Speaker 3: it's personal and one of the reasons has to do
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Speaker 3: with my childhood and growing up. I remember very clearly
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Speaker 3: the Ntegi raid. It happened in nineteen seventy six. I
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Speaker 3: was five years old at the time, and Israel went in.
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Speaker 3: Palestinian terrorist had hijacked a plane full of Israelis and
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Speaker 3: had taken them to Uganda. And when that happened, Israel
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Speaker 3: in commandos and rescue the hostages, rescued one hundred and
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Speaker 3: two hostages. And I mean it was amazing and brave.
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Speaker 3: And when I was five years old, I was watching
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Speaker 3: that happen. To me, what it said was that Israel's
15:16
Speaker 3: philosophy was if you take our citizens hostage, they may die,
15:22
Speaker 3: but you're going to die. Yeah, And that to me
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Speaker 3: was a very Texan foreign policy and it's not something
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Speaker 3: you could imagine Joe Biden capable of.
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Speaker 2: For people that are curious about one last aspect of
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Speaker 2: going and getting your people, there seems to be this
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Speaker 2: new idea. And I saw a lot of this on
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Speaker 2: social media over the weekend, and I saw people were
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Speaker 2: writing this. They were like, well, look, America couldn't go
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Speaker 2: into Gaza. That would be Israel's job to get our
15:53
Speaker 2: hostages back. So you got to understand that it's not
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Speaker 2: like America could do anything. Can you explain how absurd
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Speaker 2: that idea is?
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Speaker 1: We get our hostages anywhere in the world?
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Speaker 2: Okay, so normal, Just so people understand that, because there
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Speaker 2: actually seems to be a lot of misinformation that if well,
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Speaker 2: if they're in another country. It's not as simple as
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Speaker 2: you can just go get them.
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Speaker 3: Sure, sure you can that That is the job of
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Speaker 3: the military is to protect Americans, and rescuing American hostages
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Speaker 3: is a critical responsibility. It can be difficult, but if
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Speaker 3: you have hostages that are that are taken by terrorists,
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Speaker 3: by the way, you know, you remember back when when
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Speaker 3: Jimmy Carter was president and and we had in Iran,
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Speaker 3: we had American hostages taken and held in captivity for
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Speaker 3: four hundred and forty four days when the Iranian radical
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Speaker 3: Islamic terrorists took over the embassy. Jimmy Carter sent a
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Speaker 3: military force to go attack to try to get the
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Speaker 3: hostages out, and the military force ended up crashing in
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Speaker 3: the desert with no opposing fire.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it was but.
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Speaker 3: To Carter's credit, he actually tried. I had to go
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Speaker 3: in and do something. If Joe Biden has done anything
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Speaker 3: to try to free those American hostages, he hasn't bothered
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Speaker 3: to tell us or anybody in the world about it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: That's and I think that's the biggest concern for so
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Speaker 2: many Americans right now, is the aspect that we're just
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Speaker 2: sitting around kind of waiting and letting Israel, in essence,
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Speaker 2: take the lead here. I hope that we get some
17:23
Speaker 2: answers or at least some accountability or or pressure on
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Speaker 2: this White House. Is there any way that you guys
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Speaker 2: lastly in Congress can do that.
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Speaker 3: Well, as we've talked about, I'm going to be forcing
17:36
Speaker 3: a vote and a vote in the next couple of
17:38
Speaker 3: weeks on my resolution under the War Powers Act to
17:42
Speaker 3: defund the gazap Here, and that by using the War
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Speaker 3: Powers Act I can Schumer can't stop me from getting
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Speaker 3: a vote. And so look, I would rather force a
17:56
Speaker 3: vote on providing military weapons to Israeli meet and stopping
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18:05
Speaker 3: not going to allow that vote. He's already said he's
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Speaker 2: Senaer, I also want to ask you one other question,
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Speaker 2: and that is about the protests that took place in
20:36
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Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 2: This was Hamas pro Hamas has Blau protests that took place.
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Speaker 2: They were very clearly in favor of these terrorists organizations.
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Speaker 2: They also defaced and attacked American monuments as well, and
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Speaker 3: Well, look It really was outrageous. You saw an angry
20:58
Speaker 3: mob that was conducting brazen criminal activity right outside the
21:03
Speaker 3: White House.
21:04
Speaker 1: Uh they were.
21:06
Speaker 3: If they themselves are not actual terrorists, they're certainly supporting terrorists.
21:10
Speaker 3: They are chanting in support of Hamas. They're carrying signs
21:13
Speaker 3: saying they support Hamas. Here here take take take a
21:17
Speaker 3: listen to what they're chanting as they're walking down the
21:19
Speaker 3: streets outside the White House.
21:30
Speaker 2: By another now, I mean, sir, this is in front
21:43
Speaker 2: of the White House. He has blah, kill another Zionus
21:46
Speaker 2: now and another part they were saying, kill another soldier
21:50
Speaker 2: now that this is calling for the extermination of the Jews.
21:53
Speaker 4: And it's right in front of the White House.
21:55
Speaker 1: Yeah.
21:55
Speaker 3: Look, and this is number one. This is now the
21:59
Speaker 3: hardcore base of the Democrat Party. These are the voters
22:03
Speaker 3: that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and Chuck Schumer are
22:05
Speaker 3: trying to kiss up to and get the votes of.
22:07
Speaker 3: It's why Kamala Harris went to Michigan and said that
22:10
Speaker 3: that that that expressed her remorse for the Palestinian terrorists
22:13
Speaker 3: being killed instead of standing clearly with Israel against Tomas
22:21
Speaker 3: and and you look at what happened. These people are
22:24
Speaker 3: claiming to be Hamas, I think we should take them
22:26
Speaker 3: at their word for it. And they are also committing
22:28
Speaker 3: brazen crimes. They are defacing monuments. They're the statue of Lafayette,
22:33
Speaker 3: a great, a great hero, pivotal in the founding of America.
22:37
Speaker 3: They're spraying, spray painting, Free Gaza, their spray painting, and
22:41
Speaker 3: they're doing it right out in the open. There was
22:45
Speaker 3: a law enforcement officer standing outside the statue. They're throwing
22:50
Speaker 3: things at him. They're throwing water bottles at him, and
22:53
Speaker 3: and the stunning thing is all right. DC Metro police
22:57
Speaker 3: said they made zero protest related arrests at the protest.
23:03
Speaker 3: US Secret Service told reporters they made no arrests at
23:07
Speaker 3: the protest. So you can vandalize, you can spray paint,
23:13
Speaker 3: you can deface public monuments, you can assault police officers,
23:18
Speaker 3: you can you can call for the murder of Jews,
23:22
Speaker 3: and there are no consequences in this administration. That's who
23:28
Speaker 3: they are and this is who they're rooting for and
23:32
Speaker 3: to be queer.
23:32
Speaker 2: So people understand, I lived in DC. You're there, you know,
23:35
Speaker 2: virtually part of every week when you guys are in session,
23:39
Speaker 2: I think people needed to understand DC is a very
23:42
Speaker 2: liberal city run by Democrats, and this is a top
23:45
Speaker 2: down Whether it was Black Lives Matter, whether it was
23:48
Speaker 2: sitting at church on fire across from the White House
23:51
Speaker 2: when Trump was in office, this is the Democratic Party
23:56
Speaker 2: that is basically sanctioning this behavior in saying we will
24:01
Speaker 2: continue to look the other way because it's complicated. You've
24:05
Speaker 2: got secret service, it has certain type of jurisdiction, but
24:09
Speaker 2: it's not in many parts of the streets where a
24:11
Speaker 2: local police would be, and that's where the Democrats are
24:13
Speaker 2: in charge.
24:14
Speaker 3: Well, number one, DC is an overwhelmingly Democrat city. The
24:18
Speaker 3: mayor is a very left wing Democrat.
24:20
Speaker 1: D C voted.
24:21
Speaker 3: I think it was ninety four percent or ninety six
24:24
Speaker 3: percent for Joe Biden. So it's almost exclusively a one
24:27
Speaker 3: party town. And the DC police, the mayor is not
24:33
Speaker 3: letting them arrest anyone. But on top of that, Lafayette
24:36
Speaker 3: Square is under the control of the US Department of
24:39
Speaker 3: the Interior, so it is the Biden administration. Joe Biden
24:43
Speaker 3: could direct his administration, the FBI could go out and
24:46
Speaker 3: arrest these people, and they're not doing it. They're not
24:49
Speaker 3: doing it because they don't want to offend the people
24:54
Speaker 3: chanting hesbela, hesbela, kill another ziotist. The Democrats look at
25:00
Speaker 3: that and say, hey, those are the people who's votes
25:02
Speaker 3: we want. The protest had around nine thousand people in it,
25:07
Speaker 3: the anti Israel pro Hamas protests. This is a massive
25:10
Speaker 3: protest outside the White House. How many US Park police
25:15
Speaker 3: do you think we're assigned to police the nine thousand
25:21
Speaker 3: person protests.
25:22
Speaker 4: I'm genuinely curious. I have no idea.
25:24
Speaker 3: Seventy one, wow, seventy one police officers for nine thousand protesters.
25:29
Speaker 3: They also park police command staff did not allow the
25:33
Speaker 3: officers to wear riot gear, so they were not able
25:38
Speaker 3: to defend themselves from nine thousand protesters, not able to
25:42
Speaker 3: use the equipment they need, and seventy one officers. This
25:46
Speaker 3: administration does not want to shut these protests down, and
25:51
Speaker 3: they look the other way. And by the way, this
25:53
Speaker 3: is an apartment of justice where, my goodness, if you
25:57
Speaker 3: pray outside an abortion clinic, they'll come after you with
26:00
Speaker 3: commandos at your house. If you were standing on the
26:05
Speaker 3: mall on January sixth singing God bless America, they'll track
26:09
Speaker 3: you down wherever you are and devote all the resources
26:12
Speaker 3: of the Department of Justice. There's video of everyone to
26:15
Speaker 3: facing these monuments, throwing things at law enforcement, and the
26:19
Speaker 3: Biden administration is doing zero. Their view is if we
26:24
Speaker 3: agree with your politics, and tragically today the Democrats agree
26:28
Speaker 3: with the politics of the people saying hesbeala kill. Another
26:33
Speaker 3: zionis now, if they agree with your politics, they will
26:36
Speaker 3: not arrest you, they will not charge you, they will
26:39
Speaker 3: not prosecute you, and they will let you break the
26:42
Speaker 3: law right in front of them with zero consequences.
26:47
Speaker 2: I want to move to another domestic issue, and that
26:49
Speaker 2: is a Hunter Biden trial. This is not a surprise
26:54
Speaker 2: to any sane person, but we got official, official confirmation
27:00
Speaker 2: from law enforcement that yes, in fact, the Hunter Biden
27:04
Speaker 2: laptop is real, which means all of our spies, all
27:09
Speaker 2: the top people at the CIA and the FBI that
27:14
Speaker 2: came out and said that this had all the markings
27:17
Speaker 2: right of Russian disinformation campaign before the last election, they
27:21
Speaker 2: all knew the laptop was real. They were all lying
27:24
Speaker 2: to the American people, and there seems to be zero
27:27
Speaker 2: accountability for that.
27:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, look that that is exactly right. So this past
27:32
Speaker 3: week in the Hunter Biden trial, the Biden Department of
27:35
Speaker 3: Justice came in and made the argument to the court
27:38
Speaker 3: that the Hunter Biden laptop was real, that it was accurate,
27:41
Speaker 3: that it had not been been modified, that it had
27:45
Speaker 3: not been altered in any way, shape or form. And
27:48
Speaker 3: actually the media just reported reported matter of fact, ABC, NBCCBS,
27:53
Speaker 3: Washington Post reported that the laptop showed no evidence of
27:57
Speaker 3: tampering and was both real and authentic. And none of
28:01
Speaker 3: those outlets acknowledged that. For years, and especially in the
28:06
Speaker 3: weeks and months right before the twenty twenty election, they
28:09
Speaker 3: said over and over and over again. First of all,
28:11
Speaker 3: they refused to cover it, but to the extent they
28:13
Speaker 3: did cover it, they said it was Russian interference and
28:16
Speaker 3: Russian disinformation. Now the Biden Justice Department just argue, that's
28:20
Speaker 3: a conspiracy theory.
28:22
Speaker 1: And yet do you hear anyone calling to.
28:29
Speaker 3: Calling to accountability, people like Clapper, people like Brennan, people
28:34
Speaker 3: like Leon Panetta, people like Tony Blink and Tony Blincoln.
28:38
Speaker 3: The US Secretary of State led the effort to get
28:41
Speaker 3: fifty one former intelligence officials to sign a letter saying
28:46
Speaker 3: this had all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation. Now that
28:50
Speaker 3: was a total lie. It wasn't Russian disinformation. And by
28:53
Speaker 3: the way, oh no, let's not forget this. Let's remind
28:56
Speaker 3: people why that letter was so important. It was before
29:00
Speaker 3: were president of debate and they needed to get out
29:02
Speaker 3: of jail free. Excuse Yeah, and Biden cited the letter
29:05
Speaker 3: in the debate. He relied on it.
29:08
Speaker 1: Here. Take a listen, we're going.
29:10
Speaker 6: To have it's true about Russia, Ukraine, China, other countries, Iraq.
29:15
Speaker 6: If this is true, then he's a corrupt politician, right,
29:18
Speaker 6: So don't give me the stuff about how you're this
29:20
Speaker 6: innocent baby Joe. They're calling you a corrupt politician.
29:24
Speaker 4: Nobody. I want to stay on the issue of race.
29:28
Speaker 4: We're talking about from hill.
29:30
Speaker 1: President Trump.
29:31
Speaker 7: We're talking about race right now, and I do want
29:32
Speaker 7: to stay on the issue of race. President Trump, you
29:35
Speaker 7: have to respond to that.
29:36
Speaker 1: Look very cool.
29:37
Speaker 7: Are fifty former national intelligence folks who said that what
29:42
Speaker 7: this he's accusing me of is a Russian plant.
29:45
Speaker 4: They have said that this has all the care.
29:48
Speaker 7: Four five former heads of the CIA, both parties say
29:52
Speaker 7: what he's saying is a bunch of garbage. Nobody believes
29:56
Speaker 7: it except them his and his good friend Rudi Giolli.
29:59
Speaker 6: You mean the laptop is now another Russia, Russia, Russia hoax.
30:03
Speaker 4: You that's exactly what, exactly what this is where he's going.
30:10
Speaker 1: I want to stay on the issue of race. You
30:12
Speaker 1: have to here we go again with the Russia.
30:15
Speaker 2: We're going to I will, by the way, how the
30:17
Speaker 2: whole time, the moderators like, we got to move on
30:19
Speaker 2: from this.
30:19
Speaker 4: We gotta, we got to move on as fast as
30:21
Speaker 4: we can.
30:21
Speaker 3: We don't get any topic about this. Look, I mean,
30:25
Speaker 3: the the moderators that they might as well wear Biden
30:28
Speaker 3: campaign hats uh and that that that is just where
30:31
Speaker 3: the press is and they're even worse now. But but
30:35
Speaker 3: every word Biden said there was a deliberate lie. And
30:37
Speaker 3: by the way, Hunter Biden knew was an absolute fact
30:41
Speaker 3: the laptop was accurate then, which means either Joe Biden
30:46
Speaker 3: knew as a fact that it was accurate, or if
30:48
Speaker 3: he didn't know, it's because he didn't want to know
30:50
Speaker 3: it he didn't ask his son. Those are the two options.
30:53
Speaker 3: So he was lying, and he was he was lying
30:56
Speaker 3: because it helped him politically. And and the person who
31:01
Speaker 3: organized that letter was Tony Blincoln. The reward for doing that,
31:04
Speaker 3: Blncoln becomes the US Secretary of state.
31:06
Speaker 1: That's how important it was.
31:08
Speaker 4: That letter saved him. I mean, let's be queer.
31:10
Speaker 2: I don't think he would have been Joe Biden would
31:12
Speaker 2: be president now if it wasn't for that letter.
31:14
Speaker 3: And and it was a flat out lie. And and
31:17
Speaker 3: you look at the press, all right, take a listen
31:20
Speaker 3: to Leslie Stall when she's interviewing Trump and and and
31:25
Speaker 3: she's making very much the same point.
31:28
Speaker 4: It's this.
31:28
Speaker 5: I think it's one of the biggest scandals I've ever seen.
31:31
Speaker 5: And you don't cover it. You want to talk about
31:34
Speaker 5: it because you want to talk about insignificant things.
31:38
Speaker 4: I'm telling you.
31:39
Speaker 5: Of course, it can be verified. They found the laptop, Leslie, listen, verified.
31:45
Speaker 4: What can't be verified? The laptop?
31:47
Speaker 6: Why you said it?
31:48
Speaker 5: Even the family hasn't the family on the laptop. He's
31:54
Speaker 5: gone into hiding for five days. He's gone into hiding.
31:57
Speaker 4: He's prepared for your debate.
31:59
Speaker 5: Let's take them five days to prepare.
32:01
Speaker 4: I doubt I did.
32:02
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's get back to the name I will that.
32:06
Speaker 2: So let's let's just get back to the name calling here.
32:08
Speaker 2: We're gonna move on. We can't talk about it because.
32:10
Speaker 1: I've got an agenda.
32:12
Speaker 3: I've got an agenda and and facts can't get in
32:15
Speaker 3: the way. Look, Leslie Stall pretends she's a journalist. That's
32:18
Speaker 3: sixty minutes. That's CBS, and what she's saying it can't
32:22
Speaker 3: be verified as a flat out live of course it
32:24
Speaker 3: could be verified. It's called journalism. But CBS had no
32:28
Speaker 3: interest in doing journalism, nor do they now, you know,
32:31
Speaker 3: if Leslie Stall she said there, well, well they're busy,
32:35
Speaker 3: they're preparing for the debate. So so you can't expect
32:38
Speaker 3: them to respond to the overwhelming evidence of corruption because
32:43
Speaker 3: you know, let's get back to the name calling. I'm
32:45
Speaker 3: busy attacking you, Donald Trump. So so so don't you
32:48
Speaker 3: bring up anything that that that that Biden is doing.
32:50
Speaker 3: And and you know, look, if if Leslie Stall, if
32:53
Speaker 3: any journalist had a shred of integrity, they would stand
32:57
Speaker 3: up and say I was totally wrong. What I said
32:59
Speaker 3: was false. I didn't do my job, and I apologize.
33:03
Speaker 3: She's not gonna do that. None of them are. And
33:05
Speaker 3: by the way, the people who have signed this letter,
33:08
Speaker 3: they're not coming back and admitting, Okay, I was completely
33:12
Speaker 3: full of crap and I lied to the American people
33:16
Speaker 3: right before an election, and it influenced the election profoundly.
33:19
Speaker 2: Not just that James Clapper toad Fox, is that he
33:23
Speaker 2: stands by the letter of the laptop.
33:27
Speaker 1: You know, the.
33:31
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33:37
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33:41
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Speaker 4: Senator.
35:46
Speaker 2: One other question I want to ask you about your
35:49
Speaker 2: trip before we wrap things up, is you met with
35:52
Speaker 2: a guy by the names Zelenski. Now, what matters the
35:55
Speaker 2: most to me was was he wearing a suit or
35:59
Speaker 2: was he still wearing the millilitary fatigues.
36:00
Speaker 4: I just I got to know.
36:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he was in the military fatigues. That's what
36:04
Speaker 3: he wears every day.
36:05
Speaker 2: Oh man, I mean back in the good old days
36:07
Speaker 2: when he was meeting with Trump and you guys, he
36:09
Speaker 2: was wearing a suit when he came to ask for money.
36:11
Speaker 1: Yeah.
36:12
Speaker 3: Ever since the war started, he's in the fatigues every day,
36:15
Speaker 3: and so he was in kind of an olive green sweatshirt.
36:21
Speaker 2: So you meet with them, and he's got a bunch
36:23
Speaker 2: more money, a couple, you know, a couple hundred million
36:25
Speaker 2: dollars more two hundred and something I think is is
36:27
Speaker 2: what Biden said during this trip that he was going
36:30
Speaker 2: to give to them again. You guys met with him.
36:34
Speaker 2: What was it like this time and what did he
36:36
Speaker 2: have to say.
36:37
Speaker 3: So, well, there was a group of Senators that went
36:40
Speaker 3: to D Day for the eightieth anniversary of D Day,
36:44
Speaker 3: went to Normandy, and there were nineteen senators. It was
36:46
Speaker 3: a big, big trip, and there were I think fifty
36:50
Speaker 3: three House members, so it was a significant percentage of
36:53
Speaker 3: the United States Congress. And so Zelenski sat down had
36:56
Speaker 3: a meeting with all the senators and then after that
36:58
Speaker 3: he had a meeting with the House members. So both
37:00
Speaker 3: sides sat down and met with him. We met in
37:03
Speaker 3: in the historic Talleyrand Hotel, which is this beautiful hotel
37:07
Speaker 3: in Paris that actually the US government now owns. It's
37:10
Speaker 3: no longer a hotel, and it is where the Marshall
37:13
Speaker 3: Plan was signed. And so there's a big room that
37:15
Speaker 3: has gold, you know, gold on the ceiling. It's very
37:19
Speaker 3: elaborate and and it it's a historic, historic meeting space.
37:25
Speaker 3: So that's where we met and it was a good discussion. Look,
37:28
Speaker 3: Zelensky was there with several of his aides and he
37:31
Speaker 3: was describing what is happening, and he was you know,
37:34
Speaker 3: he is a a wartime leader and listen, there that
37:38
Speaker 3: there are some there are some who are big critics
37:42
Speaker 3: of Zelenski. I don't put myself in that camp. I
37:44
Speaker 3: think he is trying to defend his nation from an invasion,
37:49
Speaker 3: and an invasion from Russian Vladimir Putin is a bad guy.
37:52
Speaker 3: And so Zelensky is doing what what you would hope
37:55
Speaker 3: any leader when his country is at war is doing,
37:57
Speaker 3: which is trying to defend his country and trying to
37:59
Speaker 3: get help wherever he can get it. And so he's
38:02
Speaker 3: coming in and he's asking for American help, uh, and
38:05
Speaker 3: and he's laying out his goals in the war. And
38:08
Speaker 3: so he laid them out, and then then each of
38:12
Speaker 3: us had the opportunity to ask ask questions. My principal
38:16
Speaker 3: question I asked him, I said, how would you define victory?
38:23
Speaker 3: What does victory mean? And what is the path to
38:27
Speaker 3: getting there? Look, I want Russia to lose the difficulty,
38:33
Speaker 3: and I got to say that question that I asked.
38:36
Speaker 3: He didn't really answer me on how he would define victory.
38:39
Speaker 3: He has another context, define victory as as Ukraine winning
38:43
Speaker 3: back essentially every square inch of territory that Russia has taken.
38:48
Speaker 3: I understand why Zelensky would say that's victory. If if
38:52
Speaker 3: you were Zelensky, you'd probably say the same thing. But
38:56
Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean it is in the United States'
38:59
Speaker 3: interest to demand every square inch of territory be taken back.
39:04
Speaker 3: The reason we have an interest in this war is
39:06
Speaker 3: that we want we do not want our enemy Russia
39:09
Speaker 3: to win and get stronger, uh and and instead we
39:15
Speaker 3: want Russia to be weaker so that they're less able
39:18
Speaker 3: to pose a threat to America. They're also, by the way,
39:22
Speaker 3: very very significant resources, in particular rare earth minerals in
39:27
Speaker 3: Ukraine that are critical for the economy going forward. One
39:32
Speaker 3: of the reasons Russia's invading Ukraine is is to get
39:35
Speaker 3: a stranglehold on those rare earth minerals. We don't want
39:39
Speaker 3: putin to have those those those that would not be
39:42
Speaker 3: good for America.
39:44
Speaker 1: Uh and and so.
39:46
Speaker 3: But but you know what was really striking Ben is
39:50
Speaker 3: in the meeting with Zelenski, and we also had a
39:52
Speaker 3: classified meeting with with senior leaders of the Pentagon talking
39:56
Speaker 3: about details of what exactly is happening in the war,
40:00
Speaker 3: where the battles are, where the victories are, where the
40:02
Speaker 3: losses are, and and it was a very interesting and
40:06
Speaker 3: worthwhile briefing.
40:07
Speaker 5: But but.
40:10
Speaker 3: The question of what does victory mean? This administration is
40:15
Speaker 3: not asking that question. No Democrat in that room is
40:18
Speaker 3: asking that question. What is victory? And I got to
40:21
Speaker 3: say it, really, you know, when it struck me, it
40:24
Speaker 3: is we went out to lunch two days ago at
40:27
Speaker 3: a little Paris cafe in between meetings, and we're sitting
40:30
Speaker 3: there at lunch talking and I was most of the
40:36
Speaker 3: senators there at the lunch table were Democrats, and they
40:39
Speaker 3: were all talking about Vietnam. And it struck me looking
40:42
Speaker 3: around the table that they're all baby boomers, They're all
40:45
Speaker 3: children of Vietnam. They all kind of got their start
40:48
Speaker 3: in politics protesting against Vietnam. And look for you and me,
40:54
Speaker 3: I mean, neither of us were alive when Vietnam was
40:57
Speaker 3: a thing. You weren't alive at all. And I was
41:00
Speaker 3: like two when the Vietnam War ended, So I have
41:03
Speaker 3: no memories. Vietnam did not impact my awareness of the world.
41:08
Speaker 3: It was done by the time I was learning about
41:12
Speaker 3: the world.
41:13
Speaker 1: And so.
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Speaker 3: I got to say a lot of the boomers, particularly
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Speaker 3: the Democrat boomers, they took the wrong lesson from Vietnam.
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Speaker 3: And I think there are lots of lessons to take
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Speaker 3: from Vietnam, but one of the central ones is that
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Speaker 3: you should have a clear, defined objective that you know
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Speaker 3: what it is that is directly related to your national
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Speaker 3: security that is achievable. You should have a plan to
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Speaker 3: achieve it, and then you should get the hell out.
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Speaker 3: And Vietnam, we just let it go on and on
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Speaker 3: and on and be a quagmire and just kept pouring
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Speaker 3: money and American soldiers and lives into it without a
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Speaker 3: clear objective that we were willing to use overwhelming force
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Speaker 3: to accomplish. This administration has no objective they can articulate one.
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Speaker 3: They're not even asking that question. That is infuriating.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it really is.
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Speaker 2: Well and again for so many Americans, it's like, what
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Speaker 2: does the end look like? How long could we be
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Speaker 2: in this? And how much money is it going to
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Speaker 2: cost it? The White House has made it clear, and
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Speaker 2: I think it should be an issue in the upcoming
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Speaker 2: debate how long is America going to do this? And
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Speaker 2: how much money could this last? The White House has said,
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Speaker 2: will be with you forever, no matter what. And that's
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Speaker 2: a lot of cash for a lot of Americans that
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Speaker 2: we're going to be spending on this without their being
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Speaker 2: as some to have described, I think without Like you said,
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Speaker 2: what does victory look like? What does that actually look like?
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