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Interview of the Week: Kierra Sheard-Kelly, Stellar Award-winning Artist, Actress, and Entrepreneur, motivates in her new book "Big, Bold, and Beautiful: Owning the Woman God Made You to Be." · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: Don't let your age, friends, family or co workers stop
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Speaker 1: all My next is I call a Kiky care or
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Speaker 1: shared Kelly. That's to my interview that she wasn't killing
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Speaker 1: But that's all right, that's how right. She's Grammy winner,
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Speaker 1: Stellar Award winning artist actress. She portrayed her mother in
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Speaker 1: the Lifetime biopic The Clok Sisters First Ladies of Gospel
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Speaker 1: is Lifetime's highest rated movies since sixteen. And she's an entrepreneur.
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Speaker 1: Her company Eleve and sixty a very successful clothing line
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Speaker 1: for four figured women, and now Arthur Big, Bold and
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Speaker 1: Beautiful owning the Woman God made You two be. It
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Speaker 1: is an inspirational memoir book for your mind, body, spirit
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Speaker 1: the money making conversation. She's my friend, Ki Ki care
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Speaker 1: Shared Kelly. How you doing my friend? I am doing well?
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Speaker 1: How are you well? I'm excited? You know, I always
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Speaker 1: get excited talking to because you're in this rational to me.
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Speaker 1: I have a twenty three year old daughter, and so
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Speaker 1: whenever you come on the show, I look for You're
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Speaker 1: the people in her peer group, you know, because you're
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Speaker 1: she looked to up to you. She follows you. She
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Speaker 1: she finds uh your unblinding faith, your your ability to
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Speaker 1: achieve success. And I usually as an example a lot
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Speaker 1: of times. So whenever you come on the show, I'm
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Speaker 1: always excited and she gets excited. So her name is
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Speaker 1: Christiana McDonald's. But thank you. Now let's talk about this book.
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Speaker 1: Before we talk about book, let's talk about now that
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Speaker 1: the movie been out. You know, because when I interviewed you,
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Speaker 1: the movie came out. But now we've had a year
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Speaker 1: of the movie being out. How has that transformed your life?
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Speaker 1: The movie I'm talking about is The Clark's Sisters First
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Speaker 1: Ladies of Gospel. Well, it has changed my life in
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Speaker 1: so many ways. One way is when I go to
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Speaker 1: the store, now I seem like more people know who
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Speaker 1: I am and they're relating to me as Karen or
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Speaker 1: calling me Karen. So it has changed my life in
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Speaker 1: that way. But it also stretched me to be honest.
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Speaker 1: Um trying to portray my mother vocally and just as
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Speaker 1: a person, because she's so gracious and she's like a
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Speaker 1: quiet storm who is not intimidated by people. But it
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Speaker 1: comes off as like an innocence or like a it's
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Speaker 1: just so soft. I had to kind of pull back
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Speaker 1: while working on that role. So it's changed my life
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Speaker 1: as a woman. And I think it prepared me to
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Speaker 1: not knowing then while I was actually doing the role
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Speaker 1: as a single woman, that is preparing me to be
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Speaker 1: a wife and a mother, just to see things differently. Um,
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Speaker 1: So it really has changed my life in so many ways.
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Speaker 1: Of course it was a resume builder, but it was
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Speaker 1: me performing for my mother, and so it was really
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Speaker 1: special for me. Well, it was special in a lot
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Speaker 1: of ways because you know, you reveal, you pull back
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Speaker 1: to the curtain. In other words, you know, they told
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Speaker 1: a story about your grandmother, told a story about your
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Speaker 1: mom and her sister's experience in dealing with your grandmother,
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Speaker 1: someone who was rather sensitive, and which is great because
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Speaker 1: it was a story by a woman pushing her children
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Speaker 1: to be the best that they could be. And I
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Speaker 1: kind take that away and fast forward. I look at
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Speaker 1: the book Big, Bold, and Beautiful. That book is about
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Speaker 1: pushing you and your friends pushing you and helping you
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Speaker 1: and supporting you to be the best key key you
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Speaker 1: can be? Is that correct? Absolutely? And I'm it's so
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Speaker 1: important because you know, I'm a woman to face. So
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Speaker 1: I believe in the scripture when it says that iron
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Speaker 1: sharping's iron. And I was just talking to my friend
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Speaker 1: Tasha Covs Leonard, and she brought out a great point.
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Speaker 1: She said, Keith, when you say iron sharping's iron, it
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Speaker 1: could be negative iron that's sharpening negative iron ore. It
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Speaker 1: could be positive versus positive. And so I think it's
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Speaker 1: so important what I talked about it in the book
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Speaker 1: Self Care has everything to do with your squad. You know,
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Speaker 1: how they're pouring into you, how they're pushing you into destiny,
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Speaker 1: how they're reminding you of the promises of God. You
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Speaker 1: have people around you who's always picking at you, and
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Speaker 1: negative Nancy or negative Joe or whoever you want to
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Speaker 1: call it. It's like it'll drain you and will cause
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Speaker 1: you to believe the complete opposite of what you've been dreaming.
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Speaker 1: So think it's so important to be very particular what
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Speaker 1: who's in your space, because you can ask somebody that's
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Speaker 1: against you and they can cover themselves up. It's like
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Speaker 1: a what do they say, a wolve in sheep's clothing.
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Speaker 1: So it's so important that we are selective in that area. Yes, well,
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Speaker 1: you know it's important we talk about this. I'm a
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Speaker 1: slow everything down because I want everybody to understand the
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Speaker 1: value of this book. And it's not a value that
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Speaker 1: just a female gender can can take. Nugget to wait,
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Speaker 1: I'm a successful in person in this business. I'm a male.
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Speaker 1: And when I started reading the book, I went, Okay,
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Speaker 1: relatable because one of the chapters where you talk about
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Speaker 1: I always have a phrase, you know, you can't save everyone.
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Speaker 1: You know, you only have one life jacket. You gotta
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Speaker 1: let them go. You talk about it, and one of
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Speaker 1: your chapters about that about people around you and not
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Speaker 1: understanding that you know, you can't worry sometimes about other
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Speaker 1: people's rent or the food on their table if they're
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Speaker 1: not if they don't worry about it, and there's a
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Speaker 1: chapter about that, and it was really from a business
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Speaker 1: from a life perspective. I was floored at the relatability
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Speaker 1: because I go, wow, this is how I think. And
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Speaker 1: so when some people do memoirs and you're such a
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Speaker 1: young person, I'm gonna I'm gonna remind you that you're
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Speaker 1: a young person. And but you also say I've lived
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Speaker 1: an adults life, you know, and so and We're gonna
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Speaker 1: get into that in the book, because but let's talk
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Speaker 1: about that the whole chapter where you wrote about people
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Speaker 1: around you and then you're taking it personal how you
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Speaker 1: should treat them. You over worry about them what they
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Speaker 1: think about you, because it does as an entrepreneur, beyond
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Speaker 1: a relationship can be damaging. Correct, absolutely. And one thing
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Speaker 1: that I've learned, and I talked about it in the book,
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Speaker 1: is that when dealing with people, you have to understand
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Speaker 1: you're not just dealing with what you have on the surface,
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Speaker 1: but you're also dealing with the culture that they've come from,
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Speaker 1: the trauma that they've experienced. So you're not just responding
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Speaker 1: in that moment to the comment they made. It's a
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Speaker 1: lot of things that are behind that statement. You know,
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Speaker 1: when we communicate with each other or sometimes and I
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Speaker 1: know where in the culture now where everybody is living
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Speaker 1: for the read ready to let somebody have it. I'm
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Speaker 1: about to show this person lives sleep while they sleep.
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Speaker 1: But I guess for me, the way I have been
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Speaker 1: moving through life, what has changed my perspective is to
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Speaker 1: simply understand you're not just responding to the person, You're
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Speaker 1: responding to their life. Circumstances that have molded them into
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Speaker 1: who they are today. And some people do things and
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Speaker 1: it's not everything should not be taken personally. So I
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Speaker 1: absolutely agree with you. And if we don't have that understanding,
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Speaker 1: and if we're always taking things personally, will always be
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Speaker 1: responding to any and everything to where it will take
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Speaker 1: so much energy. It will shift our focus off of
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Speaker 1: what we really should be focused on onto that person
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Speaker 1: and just that scenario. And so I have had to
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Speaker 1: learn that the picture is bigger than me. It's it's
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Speaker 1: so far beyond one moment, like be a student at
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Speaker 1: every opportunity you get. But even in the book I
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Speaker 1: talk about, it's a chapter called making the most of
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Speaker 1: Every Opportunity, And I just had to learn that after
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Speaker 1: chapter four. It is the chapter where Shimika, you know,
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Speaker 1: and y'all went to West Africa, you know. And because
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Speaker 1: y'all read your book now, I read your book. Now,
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Speaker 1: it's the beauty of this book. Okay, uh, we're talking
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Speaker 1: about I'm talking to Keiki or kre She or Kelly.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Jordan in a minute, you know,
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Speaker 1: because she had to she had to figure out how
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Speaker 1: to find him, and she talks about that journey because
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Speaker 1: sometimes you know, at one point in life. Let me
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Speaker 1: get ahead of the story, because I want to go
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Speaker 1: back a little bit about This is why I really
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Speaker 1: loved the book, because you're You're beautiful, your your your faith.
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Speaker 1: You come from a legacy family or gospel, and sometimes
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Speaker 1: people can see a certain degree of perfection. And we
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Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit in your book, you know,
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Speaker 1: the silver Spoon chapter and finding yourself. And in the
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Speaker 1: process of that, when you talk about the bad relationship,
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Speaker 1: I went, wow, you know, because people don't think you
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Speaker 1: have a bad relationship. People don't think that you have
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Speaker 1: bad days. And I felt to me and it's written
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Speaker 1: early on in the book, because I thought that was
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Speaker 1: important because any young reader, especially young women readers, I
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Speaker 1: thought that was important that you allowed yourself to show
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Speaker 1: us the side of you that we didn't see. We see.
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Speaker 1: We see success, we see awards, we see a happy marriage,
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Speaker 1: we see photo ops in essence and magazines and online.
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Speaker 1: But that was important that you wrote the truth to
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Speaker 1: a degree of showing people that I am just like you.
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Speaker 1: I have bad days, I make mistakes in the men
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Speaker 1: that I select, I am not perfect. Tell us about
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Speaker 1: the importance of that. Well, first, it's important. At one
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Speaker 1: scenario that I remember when I started to understand the
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Speaker 1: significance in the process of healing is when I fell
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Speaker 1: off of a bike. And I think I talked about
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Speaker 1: this in the book, but I fell off of a
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Speaker 1: bike and my mom, of course, she told me, you
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Speaker 1: know what to do, go ahead and put on the
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Speaker 1: band aid. But she noticed that I kept getting in
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Speaker 1: the tub and taking showers with the same band aid,
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Speaker 1: not cleaning it, and just the sore or the scalp
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Speaker 1: began to get soggy, so it wasn't healing properly, so
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Speaker 1: it was becoming something more than what it actually was
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Speaker 1: in that moment. So speaking of transparency and letting these
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Speaker 1: things out, it's a part of healing. You have to
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Speaker 1: let oxygen into your wound so that they can heal properly.
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Speaker 1: And that's what I'm doing through my life and through
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Speaker 1: me speaking about it, through me talking about it, but
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Speaker 1: not only that this form appealing which as a woman
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Speaker 1: of faith, there's a scripture that says confess your thoughts
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Speaker 1: one to another that you may receive healing. Therapy did
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Speaker 1: not come from culture. Therapy came from God. He says,
10:34
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you people that you can talk to.
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Speaker 1: But the latter part of that scripture says, the prayers
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Speaker 1: of the righteous avail. If much, it's just all in
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Speaker 1: who I talk to. If I'm talking to the right person,
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Speaker 1: a righteous individual, I can trust that then they can
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Speaker 1: carry my secrets, carry my issues, and then take them
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Speaker 1: to God, because I need someone to take me to
10:54
Speaker 1: God or carry me to God when I can't get
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Speaker 1: myself to them. And so that even speaks to the
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Speaker 1: self squad HEAs of it. But that's why I wanted
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Speaker 1: to be transparent here, because I want you to know
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Speaker 1: that I can relate. And I think the connectivity again,
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Speaker 1: like we've mentioned, it's all in providing a solution for
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Speaker 1: someone who may feel like they're alone. Very often will
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Speaker 1: soak in it, will get into depression, will become anxious,
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Speaker 1: and it's because we feel like we're alone. And so
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Speaker 1: with this conversational approach and me hoping that the reader
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Speaker 1: will be like, you know what, this is my girl,
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Speaker 1: I can relate, I connect I'm hoping that they will
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Speaker 1: become free from listening and reading to that so reading
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Speaker 1: the book, So that was my whole intent transparency is
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Speaker 1: healing me, but it's in return healing the reader as well. Well,
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Speaker 1: you had attitude in this book, too fresh with that dude.
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11:48
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11:53
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11:57
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12:04
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you this is the book. This is the book.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Oh my, I'm says, I am so excited.
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Speaker 1: You know this, this whole book, the Big Bowl and
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Speaker 1: beautiful owning the woman God made you to be. And
15:40
Speaker 1: that's just a sample size of what came out and
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Speaker 1: just hit me in my face in a positive way.
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Speaker 1: Because this this we're in an interesting life because, like
15:51
Speaker 1: you said, when you was eighteen, in the period when
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Speaker 1: that what someone would consider a negative experience into a
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Speaker 1: eighteen at the record label. Yeah, I'm so excited that
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Speaker 1: you read. But I have to say, um, that was
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Speaker 1: good with me, and so I definitely had that that
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Speaker 1: experience where, um, you know, I just dealt with industry
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Speaker 1: pressure and um it's simple as I am. I often
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Speaker 1: still have to tell people, you know, listen, I love God.
17:25
Speaker 1: I'm a simple girl. I don't want to always put
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Speaker 1: on And I think this, uh, the new culture and
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Speaker 1: even the listeners and the demo, they're learning that I
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Speaker 1: don't got to do all of that, you know anymore.
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Speaker 1: And if I don't, there is an audience that is
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Speaker 1: not saying don't change your position in heart, because I
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Speaker 1: because that's what makes you timeless. But I think, uh,
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Speaker 1: the other piece that young women should know is to
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Speaker 1: not compare yourselves. Uh. I think Theodore rose A Belt
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Speaker 1: said before that comparison is the thief of joy. You'll
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Speaker 1: find yourself trying to catch up with culture saying it
18:05
Speaker 1: is the pretty thing to do or the thing to do,
18:08
Speaker 1: and find that it's unobtainable for you because that was
18:12
Speaker 1: never for you, that wasn't assigned to you. And so
18:14
Speaker 1: speaking of the word big in this this book, uh,
18:18
Speaker 1: it was It was an insecurity for me once upon
18:20
Speaker 1: a time. But I had to stop asking people what
18:22
Speaker 1: they thought about me in my life, and I had
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Speaker 1: to ask God, what do you think? Let me ask
18:27
Speaker 1: the inventor about his invention rather than going with people.
18:31
Speaker 1: That's just trying to figure out how do I stay
18:32
Speaker 1: in touch with you? But I have those chapters in
18:35
Speaker 1: the book, and one chapter chapter eight, and says stop
18:37
Speaker 1: comparing you. I'm so mad at you. You stole my
18:41
Speaker 1: thought because I'm about to say that chapter eight, I'm
18:43
Speaker 1: about to say, stopped comparing yourself. It's chapter eight. You're
18:46
Speaker 1: making me mad. Now I gotta let you know I
18:49
Speaker 1: love this book, girl, I love people. That's chapter eight.
18:53
Speaker 1: You just recited chapter eight, Yes, sir, And I was
18:56
Speaker 1: gonna throw out there chapter um, chapter of fourteen to
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Speaker 1: where I say, stop looking at the other woman because
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Speaker 1: you've got the Jews sometimes. The court I love out
19:07
Speaker 1: of chapter eight is no one had the power to
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Speaker 1: be me. Yeah, that's and that's the quote I wrote
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Speaker 1: down out of chapter eight. That's why I still with
19:16
Speaker 1: me because you know, you know, I'm having a great
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Speaker 1: conversation and with you, and I just want to just
19:21
Speaker 1: let you know that It resonated with me because in
19:24
Speaker 1: the end, you know, write the book. You know, I've
19:28
Speaker 1: been fortunate to be around individuals who have written a
19:30
Speaker 1: successful book. And as you start to write, you have
19:33
Speaker 1: a story, but then you start taking layers off and
19:35
Speaker 1: you go, wow, I forgot about that. I forgot about that.
19:39
Speaker 1: And then I know in writing this book, layers are
19:42
Speaker 1: starting to get peel back. And it also is a relief,
19:46
Speaker 1: Like like you said, to be able to tell your
19:48
Speaker 1: story was a blessing for the reader, but also a
19:51
Speaker 1: blessing from you for you because of the fact that
19:55
Speaker 1: you would able to get these layers out of realize
19:57
Speaker 1: how much you've grown as a person, because one point
20:00
Speaker 1: in your life you just want to get married. You
20:02
Speaker 1: just felt that was a need to get married. And
20:04
Speaker 1: I want to bring that up because sometimes a man
20:08
Speaker 1: in this case, because you're a woman, a man would
20:10
Speaker 1: walk into your life. That doesn't mean that's the man.
20:14
Speaker 1: And and and that's what this book talks about. Because
20:17
Speaker 1: the man that she eventually got with, who had that
20:20
Speaker 1: gallon of water because she needed a gallon of water,
20:23
Speaker 1: she had known him all her life. He had been
20:27
Speaker 1: walking around all his and he didn't even know it either,
20:30
Speaker 1: So it wasn't on her. It wasn't just on her
20:32
Speaker 1: not seeing that that that they both were walking into
20:35
Speaker 1: church or walking through life half feeled they had eventually
20:39
Speaker 1: slowed down and realized we've been looking at the wrong
20:43
Speaker 1: opportunity when the opportunity was sitting right across the aisle
20:47
Speaker 1: in this case church. Talk about that. Come on, I know,
20:50
Speaker 1: preaching a little bit for your MISSI Kiki. You know
20:52
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You are driving jams and I'm loving it.
20:59
Speaker 1: Um I I can only agree with you. I think
21:02
Speaker 1: to a part of that evolution for me was me
21:06
Speaker 1: having the time of being single. So there's also a
21:09
Speaker 1: chapter in the book where I talk about being successfully
21:12
Speaker 1: single because you have to find yourself because, like you said,
21:16
Speaker 1: every person that comes in your life that ain't always
21:20
Speaker 1: the one. And I think it goes back a point
21:22
Speaker 1: to the again to the point that Dad mentioned, which
21:26
Speaker 1: was date the person, collect the information so you can
21:30
Speaker 1: draw the conclusion or the final result. So I definitely agree.
21:35
Speaker 1: I think you said it all. But again my husband
21:38
Speaker 1: showed me that no, you're not complicated. It's just you
21:41
Speaker 1: were asking the wrong person to love on you and
21:44
Speaker 1: they weren't equipped to give you what you needed. And
21:47
Speaker 1: so I definitely agree with that all. And I think too,
21:51
Speaker 1: if we're not careful because we are in the wrong place,
21:54
Speaker 1: will begin settling. We'll say I've been asking for this,
21:57
Speaker 1: I've been praying for this, and we'll look at everybody
22:00
Speaker 1: to else's like like I said, once, U fun a time,
22:02
Speaker 1: what was Sierra's prayer with russell Um And so I
22:06
Speaker 1: understand what that's like. But we also have to get
22:09
Speaker 1: to a place where I'm not settling for anything outside
22:13
Speaker 1: of what I asked for. Like, no, that it's out there.
22:16
Speaker 1: If God put it in you uh to ask for
22:19
Speaker 1: it in prayer, if you have the audacity to think
22:21
Speaker 1: of it, then it's obtainable. It's just make sure you're
22:24
Speaker 1: available and open to love. But I was so closed
22:27
Speaker 1: off and wanting one thing to work that I completely
22:31
Speaker 1: had shut off every you know, all of the great possibilities.
22:34
Speaker 1: So I agree with well, you know, by the way
22:37
Speaker 1: successfully singles Chapter twelve. Okay, chapter two just laid down. No,
22:43
Speaker 1: we just breaking down the chapter as you go along,
22:46
Speaker 1: because now I want to go back before we wrap up.
22:48
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about the entrepreneurship because that's a
22:51
Speaker 1: part of this that really blew this book up for
22:54
Speaker 1: me because it's written from a woman's perspective, but it
22:58
Speaker 1: also layers out how you took a negative you know,
23:03
Speaker 1: uh and turn it into a business. But along the
23:05
Speaker 1: way you had to uh you know, because because it
23:10
Speaker 1: was a link that I think Lukisha sent to you,
23:13
Speaker 1: the Lukisha sent to you that that enabled you to
23:16
Speaker 1: get into Macy's. And so that's why you say you
23:20
Speaker 1: are the ball. That's the that's the God is the ball. Ball,
23:22
Speaker 1: God is your agent. That's that chapter. God is that
23:24
Speaker 1: your age chapter? And I'll tell okay, I um, you know,
23:34
Speaker 1: I for the reason I'm excited because you know, I've
23:37
Speaker 1: interviewed you and we we've we've we've we've because we
23:40
Speaker 1: like our tone. But to really see how beautiful you
23:45
Speaker 1: are and how how you you. You're giving us a
23:48
Speaker 1: blessing in this book to be able to change lives.
23:51
Speaker 1: That's because that's what I think, like a man uh
23:53
Speaker 1: did for a lot of women. It just opened their eyes.
23:56
Speaker 1: And this book can do so much for so many
24:00
Speaker 1: young women, women who are trying to start businesses, women
24:03
Speaker 1: who are frustrating relationship, women who are doubting themselves physically, mentally, emotionally,
24:09
Speaker 1: but more importantly, the fastest growing business or franchise of
24:14
Speaker 1: of of of the business world, or women and especially
24:17
Speaker 1: women of color. And to write a book where I
24:20
Speaker 1: think lends so many value lessons of how to because
24:25
Speaker 1: I've talked about Courtney, and Courtney that's your ride or die?
24:28
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When Ball was being stupid,
24:30
Speaker 1: you called Courtney and she didn't say nothing negative about you,
24:33
Speaker 1: she didn't throw it back in your face. She said, hey,
24:35
Speaker 1: come with me, girl, let's go over here. Let's keep
24:37
Speaker 1: supporting you. And so, but these are the people that
24:40
Speaker 1: you talk about. You layout you said, Richard, you gotta
24:43
Speaker 1: have the people because you know, it was funny when
24:44
Speaker 1: you were talking about Courtney. I was thinking about my
24:46
Speaker 1: ride to die? Dude, who is that person? So you
24:49
Speaker 1: made me sit back and go, Okay, Mr Successful, who
24:52
Speaker 1: is your Courtney? Because you gotta have a Courtney. You
24:55
Speaker 1: gotta have somebody to call when you die, because you're
24:57
Speaker 1: gonna have down days, you have doubtful days. Who was
25:00
Speaker 1: that person? But more importantly that led you to become
25:03
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur and that's where you had you know, your
25:06
Speaker 1: your other girls, stepping in your travel, made with all
25:10
Speaker 1: over the world, career, everything for your business. It was
25:13
Speaker 1: sitting right there with you at Macy's launching your didn't
25:16
Speaker 1: know what you were really doing, but you did it.
25:18
Speaker 1: That's the faith. But there was also having somebody support
25:22
Speaker 1: your dream. Talk about that. It's so important. And I've
25:25
Speaker 1: been in a space where I've had people around that
25:29
Speaker 1: were there, you know, just by work and happenstance, but
25:33
Speaker 1: they weren't really in my corner. They didn't understand my
25:35
Speaker 1: vision um and it's like, you know, Okay, how do
25:38
Speaker 1: we collaborate together? How are we? You know, life partners
25:41
Speaker 1: is not just in the marriage and has everything to
25:44
Speaker 1: to do with your purpose. When you make decisions in
25:47
Speaker 1: your work or in your career, it shouldn't feel like work.
25:50
Speaker 1: It should feel like fun, Like I'm just I'm just
25:53
Speaker 1: living on purpose. This is just what I'm called to do.
25:56
Speaker 1: And I think that when you're prayerful and asking, Lord,
26:00
Speaker 1: give me this sense of desernment so I can know
26:03
Speaker 1: who is assigned to me and who's supposed to walk
26:05
Speaker 1: this journey for me or with me. Because there are
26:08
Speaker 1: expiration dates on some relationships and connections that we have,
26:12
Speaker 1: but if we don't respect them, then we'll get exasperated,
26:15
Speaker 1: we can become sick. It's like if we drink some
26:18
Speaker 1: milk that has an expiration date on it, eventually it
26:21
Speaker 1: will make us sick. Our bodies won't respond well to it.
26:24
Speaker 1: And so it's the same thing with people. So you
26:26
Speaker 1: said it again from reading the book, but it's so
26:29
Speaker 1: important to make sure that tribe and I talk about
26:32
Speaker 1: it again twice. So it was squad goes and then
26:35
Speaker 1: it was another chapter called finding your tribe. When you're
26:38
Speaker 1: going out into the earth, you it's not you can't
26:41
Speaker 1: fight everything. You need somebody to have your back. And
26:44
Speaker 1: so those names that you called, they're simply women who
26:47
Speaker 1: I have said. It's family. And you know what, if
26:50
Speaker 1: you allow me as a woman of faith, I'm always
26:52
Speaker 1: giving scripture. But they're the scripture that says, um, I
26:55
Speaker 1: will give you a friend that is closer than the brother.
26:58
Speaker 1: That wasn't Jesus that we're talking about. They were talking
27:01
Speaker 1: about human beings, and so I think we should understand
27:05
Speaker 1: that covenant relationships are ordained by Heaven and God loves
27:10
Speaker 1: us through people. But it's just a matter of who
27:13
Speaker 1: are the people were saying yes to Because the adversary
27:16
Speaker 1: the appoint the opponent that he also uses people, So
27:20
Speaker 1: make sure you say yes to the right people. Wow.
27:24
Speaker 1: You know, um nothing that I expected this from you. Uh,
27:28
Speaker 1: and that don't apologize. Uh, it's been inspirational. But the
27:34
Speaker 1: the whole prospect though, would you say it is faith?
27:38
Speaker 1: When you was at Macy's with Shamika your girl, you're
27:42
Speaker 1: you're ride or die career, you know, du Baie. I'm
27:45
Speaker 1: just we're just calling out some countries that y'all went to,
27:48
Speaker 1: you know, in West Africa. You know. Just let you know,
27:50
Speaker 1: you boy read the book, you know this case. You
27:52
Speaker 1: thought I was stumbling. You know, I'm not reading nothing.
27:55
Speaker 1: I'm not reading nothing. I'm just I'm just I'm just
27:57
Speaker 1: coming from you know, God's memory. That's all. That's all
28:01
Speaker 1: right here, Thank you so much. I think it was
28:06
Speaker 1: it was a It was a faith piece for sure,
28:08
Speaker 1: because um it, I looked at it as spam. When
28:12
Speaker 1: my cousin Keisha sent it to me, I was like, girl,
28:15
Speaker 1: you know how they send those chain text messages and
28:18
Speaker 1: they say signed up for this, and I'm like, I'm
28:20
Speaker 1: not signing up for this, Like it was just like whatever.
28:23
Speaker 1: So I really wasn't expecting every opportunity, even this book opportunity,
28:27
Speaker 1: if you allow me to use that as a reference point.
28:29
Speaker 1: The opportunity was in an email account that I just
28:33
Speaker 1: had put aside for spam. But something told me, and
28:38
Speaker 1: you know, again, excuse me. I'm a church girl. So
28:40
Speaker 1: you know how the scene the season says, they say, girl,
28:43
Speaker 1: that wasn't something that was the whole a goals, But
28:45
Speaker 1: something told me to go and check the email, and
28:49
Speaker 1: here I am bumping into a book opportunity. And so
28:53
Speaker 1: I definitely think it was divine. But I think and
28:56
Speaker 1: I believe that God uses people to hand you what
29:01
Speaker 1: belongs to you, that he gives you those moments. And
29:04
Speaker 1: that's why I said it in that chapter, Um, God
29:07
Speaker 1: as my agent, because sometimes you know pr management, they
29:11
Speaker 1: I mean, believe me when I say they put in
29:14
Speaker 1: the hard work and it has everything to do with
29:16
Speaker 1: where we're going and where we are. But sometimes God
29:19
Speaker 1: does things so that only he can get the glory.
29:22
Speaker 1: And so I will say, you know, God took me there,
29:26
Speaker 1: but there was some other moments where I had to
29:28
Speaker 1: work for it. So even in the word it says
29:30
Speaker 1: you gotta put action to your faith so you can
29:33
Speaker 1: believe a thing, but what you're gonna do when you
29:35
Speaker 1: get there? So a lot of us are like, oh,
29:37
Speaker 1: I want this, I want that, I want this, I
29:39
Speaker 1: want that, But are you ready for it? Is your
29:41
Speaker 1: character gonna keep you there? Is your work ethic gonna
29:44
Speaker 1: keep you there. So I definitely think it is two
29:47
Speaker 1: things that are colliding together, and it is my faith
29:50
Speaker 1: and my action. I'm just I've been loving it. You know.
29:55
Speaker 1: I rarely do I have interviews where it's a motivational
29:57
Speaker 1: This motivational interview right here, you're just dropping these nuggs.
30:01
Speaker 1: I was just sitting back on do your thing. You're
30:02
Speaker 1: do your thing? What do I pass to play? What
30:04
Speaker 1: do I pass to play? Because you are dropping scriptures,
30:07
Speaker 1: you're dropping the truth. But more importantly, you've written amazing book, big, bold,
30:12
Speaker 1: and beautiful, Owning the woman God made. I love this
30:15
Speaker 1: part Owning the woman God made you to be. That's
30:19
Speaker 1: it's not about your mistakes that you made in the past.
30:22
Speaker 1: It's not about what people think of you now. It's
30:24
Speaker 1: who what do you think of yourself? And that's what
30:26
Speaker 1: this journey is about in this book, Because if every
30:29
Speaker 1: woman who reads this book. I'll just tell you this woman,
30:32
Speaker 1: because I'm talking about group with six sisters. I have
30:34
Speaker 1: only one child. She's female. My daughter love her to death,
30:38
Speaker 1: and and I love what you've done because you're given
30:41
Speaker 1: her an opportunity to read an inspirational, motivational I would say, uh,
30:46
Speaker 1: book you know of entrepreneurship and based on your memoir,
30:51
Speaker 1: and you was on enough, honest enough to tell us
30:54
Speaker 1: share some of your stories. And all stories aren't good stories,
30:57
Speaker 1: but if they told for the right reason, they are blessing.
31:00
Speaker 1: And I considered this book of blessing. Thank you, Thank
31:03
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31:26
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