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On the Ground with President Bukele in El Salvador plus Cracker Barrel Surrenders · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: It is Verdict with center Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you.
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  Speaker 2: Usually I'm the one that's out of town, far far away. Tonight,
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  Speaker 2: as we do the show, you're in another country center
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  Speaker 2: and you're on a codel through Latin America.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. As you and I are talking,
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  Speaker 3: it is late Tuesday night, and I am in El Salvador.
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  Speaker 3: I've spent the entire day in El Salvador, meeting with
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  Speaker 3: senior government officials, meeting with the President of El Salvador.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to walk you through exactly what I heard,
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  Speaker 3: what I saw, what is happening on the ground. We're
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  Speaker 3: also going to talk about You're in my favorite Maryland man,
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  Speaker 3: the MS thirteen gangbanger, who the Democrats have decided to
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  Speaker 3: make the poster child for their entire party, and he
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  Speaker 3: has once again been arrested by Ice and is facing deportation.
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  Speaker 3: We're in the lay out the facts of what's happening there.
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  Speaker 3: And finally, Cracker Barrel. Cracker Barrel, after deciding they hate
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  Speaker 3: their customers, after deciding they hate everything their company was
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  Speaker 3: founded upon, they utterly and completely surrendered. They threw in
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  Speaker 3: the cracker They threw in the barrel. We're going to
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  Speaker 3: break down the absolute mess that was behind that, and
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  Speaker 2: So centater let's talk about why you are where you
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  Speaker 2: are right now in El Salvador. Explain quickly what a
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  Speaker 2: codell is, what it means, and then why you chose
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  Speaker 2: to do this in Latin America.
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  Speaker 3: Well, a codell is very simple. That is an abbreviation
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  Speaker 3: for congressional delegation, and that is official travel as part
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  Speaker 3: of your job serving in Congress or in my case,
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  Speaker 3: serving in the Senate. And I've done a number of
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  Speaker 3: codells to different parts of the world. You do it
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  Speaker 3: because you need to go and meet with foreign leaders.
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  Speaker 3: You need to understand the challenges in different countries as
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  Speaker 3: they impact the United States. And so I am right
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  Speaker 3: now this week on a codell throughout Latin America, and
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  Speaker 3: it started today in El Salvador And the reason I
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  Speaker 3: started in El Salvador is because it's a country that
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  Speaker 3: is impacting the United States profoundly. It is impacting the
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  Speaker 3: United States because in the last several years, particularly in
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  Speaker 3: the Biden administration, we saw a massive influx of illegal
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  Speaker 3: immigration from El Salvador that impacted Texas in the whole country.
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  Speaker 3: And then we've seen El Salvador turn itself around. President
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  Speaker 3: bu Kelly, the president here who was elected with overwhelming support,
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  Speaker 3: re elected with massive support. The success he has had
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  Speaker 3: turning crime around, targeting the cartels, targeting the gangs is extraordinary.
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  Speaker 3: And I spent quite a bit of time this evening
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  Speaker 3: with President Bukelly with his senior team, and that has
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  Speaker 3: made El Salvador safer. But it's also made America safer.
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  Speaker 3: So that's why I'm here. Now. Let me tell you
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  Speaker 3: how CODELL begins. So I started the day early this
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  Speaker 3: morning in Houston in my home. I got up, went
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  Speaker 3: to the airport, and I flew down to El Salvador.
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  Speaker 3: I got off the plane, and I have a team
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  Speaker 3: for my office is with me, of my national security
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  Speaker 3: and foreign policy team. We started by going to a
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  Speaker 3: military base that that that the United States Navy has
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  Speaker 3: right by the airport, UH. And I met with a
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  Speaker 3: number of American sailors who are there. They're engaged UH
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  Speaker 3: significantly in drug interdiction and and counter terrorism efforts and
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  Speaker 3: and and it's an air base where where they can
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  Speaker 3: they can support they can support planes, they can support
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  Speaker 3: drones and and and they can support all sorts of
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  Speaker 3: air missions UH, fighting terrorism and fighting cartels, and and
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  Speaker 3: so I met with the leadership there of the base
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  Speaker 3: and and I met with There were a number of
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  Speaker 3: sailors from Texas, and so I started by having lunch
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  Speaker 3: with them, uh, asking them about how it was living
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  Speaker 3: in El Salvador, what what their backgrounds were, and they
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  Speaker 3: were from multiple places throughout throughout Texas. What is interesting, ben,
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  Speaker 3: I asked each of those sailors. I said, okay, you
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  Speaker 3: guys have lived it varied anywhere from from a few
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  Speaker 3: weeks to two years. Down in El Salvador, I said, okay,
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  Speaker 3: how have things changed and what kind of job is
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  Speaker 3: President Boukelly doing. Every single American sailor I spoke with said,
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  Speaker 3: it's extraordinary, Like this country has changed. It is safe.
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  Speaker 3: It used to be incredibly dangerous. It is now safe.
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  Speaker 3: People are willing to walk the streets. They said. People
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  Speaker 3: would not walk the streets at night. It was not safe.
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  Speaker 3: You would not go out after dark because you would
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  Speaker 3: be assaulted, you'd be kidnapped, you'd be murdered. And it
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  Speaker 3: is now become incredibly safe. That that was the assessment
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  Speaker 3: of our sailors. I then went to the US Embassy
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  Speaker 3: and I met with with our country team.
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  Speaker 4: There.
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  Speaker 3: I had a classified briefing in a skiff where they
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  Speaker 3: walked through everything that's happening in El Salvador. And then
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  Speaker 3: I met with a number of US Marines. They were
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  Speaker 3: all young men that they had been in the country
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  Speaker 3: anywhere from actually one fellow was there literally a day wow,
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  Speaker 3: and it ranged this was his second day in country,
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  Speaker 3: and it ranged from I think that the marine had
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  Speaker 3: been there. The longest was nine months. And I asked
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  Speaker 3: them the same questions about a dozen Marines, and so
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  Speaker 3: I went and talked with them, and I said, okay,
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  Speaker 3: what do you think of the country? Every one of
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  Speaker 3: them said, this is an incredible place. We love it
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  Speaker 3: down here. But I also asked, okay, what kind of
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  Speaker 3: job is the current administration doing? And again they raved
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  Speaker 3: about it. It was one of the interesting things been
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  Speaker 3: every single person I asked on this trip, I asked,
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  Speaker 3: how is President bou Kelly doing. I did not find
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  Speaker 3: a single person, a single Salvadoran, a single American. And
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  Speaker 3: I met, as I said, I talked with a number
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  Speaker 3: of especially American servicemen and women. I didn't find a
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  Speaker 3: single one who had anything negatives say. That is rare,
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  Speaker 3: and there's a reason for that. After meeting with the Marines,
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  Speaker 3: after meeting with our country team at the embassy. I
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  Speaker 3: went and sat down with the Justice Minister and I
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  Speaker 3: got to say the Justice Minister, that presentation been their
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  Speaker 3: very few presentations I've been in in my entire time
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  Speaker 3: in the Senate that have been more impressive real because
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  Speaker 3: the Justice, Yes, the Justice Minister laid out what they've done.
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  Speaker 3: In twenty fifteen, do you know that El Salvador was
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  Speaker 3: the murder capital of the world.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a and I'm pretty sure if I
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  Speaker 2: remember correctly, the State Department put it out there in
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  Speaker 2: essence as they do not travel zone for Americans.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, in twenty fifteen, here are the data. The
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  Speaker 3: murder rate in El Salvador was one hundred people per
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  Speaker 3: one hundred thousand. That meant one out of one thousand
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  Speaker 3: people in the country was murdered. That was the single
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  Speaker 3: highest murder rate of any country on the planet. President
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  Speaker 3: bu Kelly came in, and he came in and began
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  Speaker 3: going after the cartels and he began arresting. He arrested
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  Speaker 3: over eighty thousand gang members. He went after MS thirteen
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  Speaker 3: and he locked them up. He built a gigantic prison,
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  Speaker 3: the Seacot Prison, that houses up to forty thousand people.
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  Speaker 3: It was designed to house gang members. One of the
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  Speaker 3: things that Justice Minister said, he said, look, in the
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  Speaker 3: United States MS thirteen. To become a member of MS thirteen,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you know what you have to do.
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  Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, you've actually got to kill somebody.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly right. That is the test for membership is
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  Speaker 3: you have to murder someone. So here's what the Justice
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  Speaker 3: Minister told me that I did not know. Do you
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  Speaker 3: know what the requirement was to become a member of
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  Speaker 3: MS thirteen and.
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  Speaker 1: L Salvador, I'm assuming it's worse.
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  Speaker 3: You had to murder ten people?
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  Speaker 1: Wow?
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  Speaker 3: Ten, So you showed ten people?
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  Speaker 1: Well, and that explains the murder rate.
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  Speaker 3: If you've killed nine. If you killed nine, you're not
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  Speaker 3: in yet. You're not bad enough. You only killed nine,
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  Speaker 3: You're still an amateur. And it was it was fascinating,
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  Speaker 3: like listening to the job. Describe it. He described how
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  Speaker 3: the old government of El Salvador, the leftist, they made
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  Speaker 3: a decision to essentially hand government over to the cartels,
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  Speaker 3: to disempower the police, to disempower the judiciary, to disempower
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  Speaker 3: the government from enforcing law and order. And he said, look,
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  Speaker 3: there was a government, and the government was the gangs.
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  Speaker 3: The gangs were in charge, the gangs in post taxes.
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  Speaker 3: The gangs had an army, the gangs had had a
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  Speaker 3: justice system. They were running the country and and and
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  Speaker 3: it was the murder rate was so bad that nobody
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  Speaker 3: went out at night. I was listening to I was
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  Speaker 3: talking to American personnel who lived there, and they said,
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  Speaker 3: if they had, say a Salvadoran employed who was working
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  Speaker 3: for them, they would insist on going home about four pm.
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  Speaker 3: Why because they would not drive after dark, because if
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  Speaker 3: they did, they might be kidnapped, they might be assaulted,
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  Speaker 3: they might be murdered. So you would not drive after dark.
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  Speaker 3: So Bikelly came in and they said, we're not going
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  Speaker 3: to let the gangs be the government of l Salvador.
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  Speaker 3: We are going to be the government, and we're going
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  Speaker 3: to go after them. And they went in and what's
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  Speaker 3: fascinating is they said the prior government had a list
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  Speaker 3: of most of the gang members. They'd arrest them. They
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  Speaker 3: knew who the gang members were, they'd let them go,
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  Speaker 3: they'd arrest them again, they'd let them go again. They'd
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  Speaker 3: arrest them again, they'd let them go again. So they
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  Speaker 3: had a comprehensive list. What it took was a simple decision,
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  Speaker 3: We're done. We are not letting gang members recavoc murder
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  Speaker 3: our citizens, caused terror throughout the country. And so they
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  Speaker 3: went and began arresting gang members. They began arresting gang
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  Speaker 3: leaders and putting them in jail, taking them off the street.
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  Speaker 3: Now Here is what is amazing, ben The murder rate
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  Speaker 3: went from the worst murder rate on planet Earth to
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  Speaker 3: becoming one of the safest countries in the world. It
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  Speaker 3: went from one hundred murders per one hundred thousand people
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  Speaker 3: to last year in twenty twenty four, it was one
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  Speaker 3: point nine murders per one hundred thousand people. It was
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  Speaker 3: a ninety eight percent decrease in murders. It is stunning. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and that's why President Bucala got re elected with over
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  Speaker 3: eighty percent of the vote. Because when you take people
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  Speaker 3: from a mad max in thunderdome dystopian hellscape where you're
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  Speaker 3: terrified to be out at night, you do not leave
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  Speaker 3: your house because you and your family are risking death,
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  Speaker 3: to a place where this evening I was in the
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  Speaker 3: capital city and people were walking on the streets and
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  Speaker 3: they're safe and they're not afraid. It turns out locking
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  Speaker 1: You know, this also reminds me so much.
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  Speaker 2: Of the conversation that I think we're trying to have
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  Speaker 2: right now in this country. In so many of these
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  Speaker 2: dangerous cities. It just takes the willpower and the leadership,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's New York, whether it's Memphis or Detroit, or
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  Speaker 2: and on, California, San Francisco, right in La those types
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  Speaker 2: of areas where we've seen the criminals take over.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen the gangs takeover.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen cartels that have clearly got their tentacles into
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  Speaker 2: so many of these cities and are making countless dollars
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  Speaker 2: the child trafficking. The list goes on on. It just
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  Speaker 2: takes somebody willing to say enough, that's what the President's doing.
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  Speaker 2: In Washington, d C. We're witnessing it and have instant effects.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot like what you're talking about right now
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  Speaker 2: where you are.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a political choice, and that's what everyone
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  Speaker 3: here was emphasizing. It was a choice before we're going
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  Speaker 3: to allow the gangs to run this country and we
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  Speaker 3: don't care if people are murdered, We're not going to
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  Speaker 3: do anything about it. It was a choice to end it,
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  Speaker 3: and it was a choice that was dramatic in terms
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  Speaker 3: of the effects. You know, when I was sitting with
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  Speaker 3: a Justice minister, he pulled up on the computer that
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  Speaker 3: they have in very detailed statistics. So in twenty eighteen,
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  Speaker 3: right before Bukelly came into office, there were across the
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  Speaker 3: country roughly two thousand, three hundred murders. Do you know
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  Speaker 3: how many murders there have been this year? How many fifty?
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  Speaker 1: Wow?
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  Speaker 2: It went from you to talk about a legacy by
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  Speaker 2: the way hundred Yeah, I mean, just think about a
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  Speaker 2: leader legacy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're literally saving lives through this policy.
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  Speaker 3: And so the Justice minister pulled up on the computer
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  Speaker 3: they have all across the country. He had every single
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  Speaker 3: police officer in the country on this computer. You could
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  Speaker 3: see the cars, you could see the foot patrols. He
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  Speaker 3: could click on them and you would get the names
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  Speaker 3: of this his officer so and so, officer so and
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  Speaker 3: so in every city across the country where they were.
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  Speaker 3: He could actually click on them and connect with them.
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  Speaker 3: He could call them on their cell phone. He could
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  Speaker 3: video stream with them on their cell phones. He also
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  Speaker 3: had a record of every person that had been arrested
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  Speaker 3: that day. There were four people who were arrested today
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  Speaker 3: and he had you could click on them and at
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  Speaker 3: four thirty two pm. I'm making that up. I don't
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  Speaker 3: remember the time, but you know, one guy was arrested
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  Speaker 3: for theft or whatever whatever it was, and you could
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  Speaker 3: click on it. You could see their arrest report. You
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  Speaker 3: could actually see the mugshot. I saw the mugshot of
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  Speaker 3: a guy was arrested today. And he had real time
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: data literally all across the country. And they're developing AI
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: systems to go and target it, and where they see
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: crime is greater, they go and devote the resources and
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: they get the criminals off the street. Well, I got
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: to say, having met with the Justice Minister, then then
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: I went to the Presidential office and I met with
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: President Bukelly, and I get to say President Bukelly is
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: one of the most impressive leaders I've ever met. He's young,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: he's charismatic, and his record of success is extraordinary. His
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: country is fundamentally different. I shared with him. I shared
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: with him the story that every person I had met
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: in the country today, I asked, Hey, what do you
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: think of the president? All of them, everyone, every Salvador,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: and every American said he's doing a phenomenal job. I
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: laughed and said, you know what, I don't know if
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: a politician in America that would be true. It's certainly
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: not true of me. If you ask a guy on
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: the street, there's some people who like this job I'm doing.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: There are other people who would tell you what a terrible,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: horrible human being I am that that that's a little
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: bit of the price of politics, It says something. But
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: you know what, when you go from the worst murder
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: capital on the planet to one of the safest countries
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: in the world, turns out people really appreciate that well.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: And when you're living in that type of fear in hell,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: it's not political. It's about your family and safety. And
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: it sounds like people are judging him based on that,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: not on like, look, you you interact with someone that's conserved,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: they're going to love you. Liberals automatically hate you. That's
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: that's like a fifty to fifty split right away when
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: you wake up every morning. It would be nice, by
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: the way, if while President Trump is doing what he's
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: doing in DC, if people in DC would look at
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: this as a safety issue.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Now's a political issue.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe they could take that away from from what you're
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: witnessing down there right now.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Well and listen, President mc kelly expressed real frustration because
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: the Biden administration did everything they could to undermine him,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: to attack the government of L. Salvador, and I was
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: laughing with President m kelly, saying, you know, it is bizarre.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I think the policy of America ought to be that
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: we treat our friends well, we are good friends to
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: our friends, and we stand up to our enemies. And
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: under Biden, the policy seemed to be that we treat
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: our friends like crap, and we give in and show
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: weakness and appeasement to our enemies. And I got to say,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: I think President m kelly he agreed with that. The
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Biden administration puts sanctions on government officials in L. Salvador.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: They undermined it. They attacked it, and they did everything
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: they could to drive l Salvador away. By the way,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: when they're locking up these MS thirteen gang members, these leaders,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: they're making America safer, and yet the Biden administration undermined him.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: And one of the things President m kelly was very
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: grateful about is President Trump is exactly the opposite. He
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: and President Trump are quite close. You remember, not too
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: long ago he was in DC in the Oval Office
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: with President Trump. They've worked together very very closely. And
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: the difference in what he was emphasizing. He said, this
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: is a choice. It is a choice, and we talked
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: about DC. We actually analogized it. Look, the President in
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: d C said we're gonna we're gonna put federal law
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: enforcement officials on the ground. We're going to arrest murders.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: We're going to arrest criminals and keep people safe. And
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: the results have been dramatic. Violent crime has dropped significantly
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: in DC because of the simple act of saying we're
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: going to arrest violent criminals. That's a choice, I'll tell you.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: President bmu kelly brought up San Francisco. He brought up
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: when when she from China came to San Francisco and
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: he said it was amazing. Suddenly all the homeless people
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: and drug addicts, they removed them all from the streets.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: And I was laughing. And this is what you and
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: I talked about just two days ago on the podcast.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom, when he was able to clean up San Francisco,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: he told every resident of San Francisco, you don't matter
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: to me. Let's assume Ben, this is a little bit
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: of a stretch, but you're let's assume you're a lefty,
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: granola crunching Marxist in San Francisco, and you've been told
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: over and over again, there's nothing we can do about homelessness.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: So there were nothing we can do about heroin addict
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: shooting up on the street, There's nothing we can do
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: about people defecating on the streets. And then suddenly the
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: leader of communist China shows up and Gavin Newsom cleans
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: everything and it's sparkling, spick and span. And how even
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: if you were the most left wing democrat on earth,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: how do you not stop and say, wait a second.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: You told me you couldn't fix this, and then in
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: twenty four hours you fixed it. What that means is
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: you could have fixed it a week ago, a month ago,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: a year ago, and you didn't because my kids don't
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: matter to you as much as the leader of China.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: And that's what Kelly brought up. And he and I
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: were both agreeing, you can fix this problem if you
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: choose to fix this problem. And I gotta say bo
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Kelly's results, and we talked about I did a press
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: conference this evening where of course the reporters were attacking
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Bukelly because they don't like his results. And I said, listen,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: when you have a ninety eight percent reduction in the
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: murder rates, the results speak for themselves. And I said,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: there's an analogy to President Trump in the United States,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: where when he got sworn in, we have a ninety
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: nine percent reduction in the rate of illegal boarding crossing
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: border crossings that happened immediately. And I did point out
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: to bu Kelly when I said that. I said, look,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: you're at ninety eight. President Trump's at ninety nine. I'm
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: not trying to wane op you. And I said, to
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: be fair, I said, to be fair, your status murder
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: So that's like incredibly acute. But if we're arguing between
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: ninety eight ninety nine. That is incredible success for both
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: our nations.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: This, by the way, brings me to subject number two,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: and you talk about how the left is just hell
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: bent on crime and making sure that crime stay is high.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: They're fighting law in order everywhere they can. They still
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: haven't even learned of how bad it makes them look
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: to support an illegal alien criminal who has become the
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: poster child of the Democratic Party. And let's talk about
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: the update to this Kamarabrego Garcia story.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Well, this is the Maryland man who the Democrats have
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: decided is who they stand for. And he's an MS
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: thirteen gangbanger. And he was arrested, he was deported Dell Salvatory,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: he was brought back. He's been charged with human trafficking.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: He's also been alleged to have physically assaulted and beaten
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: his wife. You and I on this podcast read through
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: the indictment and the human trafficking, the crimes that he'd
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: been involved with MS thirteen for a decade. And yet
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Democrat senators, including Chris van Holland, the Democrat from Maryland
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: who's my colleague, flew down to El Salvador and did
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: something very different than what I did. I sat down
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: with mckelly and wanted to talk about his incredible success
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: making the country safer and protecting innocent families. Chris Van
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Holland wanted to go to the prison where where Abrego
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Garcia was and sit down and have Margherita's with him
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: and be like, Oh, it's terrible that they're locking up
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: gang members. And you know what, you know what Americans want. Apparently,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: what what Van Holland thinks Marylanders want is more illegal
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: immigrants and more gang members. And and so what what
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: happened is I arrested Bregor Garcia and then they're in
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: the process of deporting him yet again, and and and
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: the Democrats are once again circling around him because apparently
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: they believe that's what Americans want. And I want you
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: to listen to to this clip of of what happened
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: when when what concerning his arrest. Give a listen.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: I think MS President today, I'm as thirteen baker and
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: human trafficker Kilmar Abregio Garcia turned himself into ice in Baltimore.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: Give any comment on this and why the Democrats so
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: emotionally attached this man who beats his wife and is
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: part of a terrorist organization.
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: Because they think he's going to be good for VOTs,
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: and I think he's very bad for votes. These people
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: are deranged. He's not good for votes. He beat the
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: hell out of his wife.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: His wife is.
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: Afraid to even talk about him. She's been mauled by
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: this animal. And you know, through a system of liberal courts,
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: you know, he's doing things. But now we have that
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: under control, and Pam has got that very much under Conville.
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: You want to comment on it.
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: No, no, we've got him under control. He will no
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: longer terrorize our country. He's currently charged with human smuggling
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: and concluding children. The guy needs to be in prison.
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: He doesn't need to be on the streets like all
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: these liberals want him to be. And as part of
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: this operation here in d we've also taken off MS
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: MS thirteen members. We've taken I think just last night
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: we got a TDA guide off our streets right here,
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: right around from where we all work. Another TDA member
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: gone because of this project. So we're going to keep
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: America safe from all of these foreign terrorist organizations, including
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: a breako Garcia.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: You know, one of the funniest things, Pam Bondi when
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: she's talking about it, she said, you know, in DC,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: we got an MS and she starts to say MSNBC,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: and she's like an MS in thirteen. Yeah, and like
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: an MSNBC reporter at MSNBC commentator off the street who
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: To be honest, there may not be a massive difference
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: because on MSNBC, what are they doing. They're defending MS thirteen.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: But I just thought that was a really amusing Freudian slip.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now, you can't make it up. It's one of
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: those that makes me laugh.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: You look at this story, and I got to say,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I really like our chances right now going into a
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: midterm if Democrats cannot get it together, even their national
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know, convention, whatever the hell you call it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: They're obsessed over words and language. They're obsessed with defending
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: criminals and illegal alien criminals. They're learning nothing, and they're
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: certainly not listening to the American people and what they're
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: saying either, which is the most important thing.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, look, we saw an illustration of this with
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Cracker Barrel. Cracker Barrel is a terrific institution, particularly in
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: the South, and their woke leadership decided that everything the
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: company was built on they didn't like, and in particular,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: they didn't like the customers. You know, their customers they
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: thought were not nearly as enlightened as they should be,
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: they were not nearly as woke as they should be.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: And the whole thing was very reminiscent of bud Light.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: You know, bud Light. You had a marketing executive who said,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: you know, the people who buy bud Light, we don't
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: like them. We need to have you know, a bunch
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: of woke transgender activists drinking our beer instead. It was
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: reminiscent of what happened with Target, where they decided to market,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: you know, to market to transgender toddlers and do it
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: prominently pushing, pushing bathing suits for two year old boys
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: to tuck their genitals, to hide them away, to pretend
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: they're not boys. That was Target thinking, this is really
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: what America wants, because you know, if you're the parent
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: of a two year old, clearly you want your son
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: to believe he's a daughter when he's two. This is
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: a phenomenon of business leaders who buy into an ideology
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: that is wildly unpopular and ultimately directly antithetical to their customers.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: And so Cracker Barrel had a logo, had a logo
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: of you know, an old old guy sitting on a
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: chair next to a giant barrel. And they decided, okay,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: let's get rid of the cracker, let's get rid of
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: the barrel, let's get rid of it all, and we'll
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: just have anodyne words because we're really embarrassed that that
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: that were for anything nostalgic, anything that that that that
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: is Americana. And the pushback has been phenomenal. There's stock
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: prices tank just like bud Light, just like Target, and
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: and just today they announced never mind, Okay, yeah, this
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: has not worked well. The beatings are really hurting, so
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: we're going to stop.
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: But but it is it is striking that that it
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: took the reaction of the market for them to figure
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: it out. I want to say though, it is a great,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: great victory for common sense that Cracker Barrel finally gave
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: in and said, you know what, we're going to stop
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: being woke because we'd like to actually have one or
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: two customers when this is all said and done.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: The the I think the frustration of conservatives now voting
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: with our dollars, and that is what ultimately this came
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: down to a Cracker brought. This was a bunch of
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Americans that said, Okay, you despise us, you despise you
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: know who we are as a customer base. You're basically
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: telling us you don't want us anymore. Watch this, And
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: that is exactly how they got this point very quickly.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: And look, I also think when you have people like
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: you and the President who are willing to speak out
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: on this and say you guys are being stupid, they
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: realize how quickly others are like yeah, us too, like
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: we're gonna you know what, We're going to say that
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: we think this is ridiculous, and we're starting to finally,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I think see the pendulum swing back the other way,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: which is really really cool.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: I was gratified because yesterday President Trump publicly called out
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Cracker Barrel and said, look, you need to just go
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: back to your old logo, like give this up in
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: the rebranding and accept that you were wrong. And I'll
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: tell you. I jumped in on Twitter. I retweeted him,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: I said this is absolutely right, and the two of
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: us were very vocal saying go back to where you
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: were in Twenty four hours later they did so that
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: that was gratifying. It's not always that people listen, they
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: listen to common sense. In this case, they did, and
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: it's worth noting it isn't just in the last week
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: that people noticed that what Cracker Barrel was doing was nuts.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: Almost a year ago November of last year, a big
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: investor in Cracker Barrel Guy named Sardar big Laurie. He
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: owns approximately five percent of the restaurant chainstock. He wrote
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: to his fellow shareholders that the Cracker Barrel transformation was
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: a quote mistake of misguided executives falling into a textbook
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: trap of overspending on cosmetic remodeling. And he continued the
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: day Cracker Barrel opened, it was already old, its theme
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: derived from the nineteen twenties, and he wrote, I am
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: concerned that not only will the remodel not work, but
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: it could actually damage the brand further. These decisions are
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: taking us down the same path I believe as Ruby Tuesday,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Red Lobster, Tgi Fridays and the like. Let me make
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: my position clear. The company's seven hundred million dollars remodel
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: plan will not work. And he called at a letter
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: to the shareholders in October twenty twenty four the board's
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: transformation plan quote obvious folly. And yet the corporate leadership
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: ignored the shareholder own five percent of the company, and
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: they charged down that road anyway, and they vaporized roughly
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: fifteen percent of the market cap of the company because
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: that they were more interested in listening to woke marketing executives.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: And by the way, the entire marketing world, much of
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: that is a scam of left wing, woke people who
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: despise their customers. And let me say, if you're in
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: corporate America, don't listen to marketing executives that don't understand
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: and don't like your customers. But in this instance, Cracker
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Barrel should have listened to its investor and not these
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: marketing execs, and it paid the price. But the good
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: news is they finally, finally, finally listened and reversed and said,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: you know what, the principles we were founded on, the
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: principles America was founded on. Those principles are pretty good.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: We're going to get back to them.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible. All right, final question for you. You've got
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: day one in the books that Codell you're going to
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: be down there and also doing more we're going to
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: be able to talk about that coming up on the
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: next episode of Verdict.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: That's right. This is a multi day trip and we're
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: traveling to two other countries throughout Latin America, and the
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: focus is really on meeting with heads of state, meeting
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: with leaders in each of these countries where the issues
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: directly impact the United States, directly impact Texas, they impact
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: our national security, they impact our economy. By the way,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: I had dinner tonight with the Economy Minister here in
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: El Salvador. They're very focused on American investment on energy,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: on technology, on pharmacyceuticals, on creating jobs, and by the way,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: to give a sense of how much these changes matter,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: I'm going to give you two stats to wrap up with.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: The Justice Minister told me they've had over ten thousand
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: applications for people who want to be police officers. Suddenly,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: people are eager to be police officers because it's making
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: a difference because as they're making their community safe. Previously,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: when the gangs were running the country, they had in
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: one year over three hundred police officers murdered. Being a
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: police officer was literally taking your life and your family's
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: life in danger. Now people are lining up to be
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: police officers because they see the difference. But here's something else.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: It used to be that the people of El Salvador
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: were fleeing this country because, look, you were risking being murdered,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: your kids were risking being murdered. You wanted to get out.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Now we are seeing reverse migration. They're roughly six million
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Salvadorans in El Salvador. They are about three million Salvadorans
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: in the United States. President Beccaulay told me roughly half
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: of those Salvadorans in America, about one and a half million,
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: have said they want to come back to El Salvador.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: They're seeing reverse migration because suddenly people are saying, wait,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: I fled my country because I was terrified for my
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: safety and my family. Now the country's safe, I want
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: to come back. I love love the beach and the
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: mountains and the people and the culture. That is changing
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  Speaker 3: this country. And it ought to be an encouragement to
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  Speaker 3: any other leader, to any mayor, to anyone facing crime
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  Speaker 3: and challenges. When you fix these problems, it doesn't just
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  Speaker 3: keep people safe, which it does, but it has economic benefits.
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  Speaker 3: It literally transforms your community. That's inspirational and as I said,
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  Speaker 3: this is the beginning of a multi day trip throughout
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  Speaker 3: Latin America. So in two days we'll report on the
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  Speaker 3: rest of the trip.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be awesome. Don't forget.
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