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- 0:32Speaker 1: Devoorhees College Stream of Thon. The goal for the Stream
- 0:36Speaker 1: of Thon is to raise one million dollars for the college.
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- 1:01Speaker 1: taking place Tuesday did summerfir. I got another familiar face.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Guess who's been on my show money Making Conversation. He's
- 1:07Speaker 1: a graduate hbc U man Marhalls graduate, but carry sellers.
- 1:11Speaker 1: He recently stayed and I watched this on CNN the
- 1:14Speaker 1: Situation Room, and it maybe laugh. The Joe Biden presidency
- 1:18Speaker 1: is not built for Snapchat, is not built for Twitter.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Is built to govern. This is my man, he states
- 1:25Speaker 1: it because he's been doing it for a long time.
- 1:26Speaker 1: He made history in two thousand and six when, at
- 1:28Speaker 1: the age of twenty two years old, he defeated a
- 1:31Speaker 1: twenty six year in combat state representative. They become the
- 1:33Speaker 1: youngest member of the South Carolina State legislator and the
- 1:36Speaker 1: youngest African American elect official in the nation. He's a man.
- 1:40Speaker 1: He's specially the roots are most influential and most influential
- 1:43Speaker 1: African American mayor. He practices law with the Strong Law
- 1:46Speaker 1: Firm and Columbia South Carolina. And it's a political commentator.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Like I stayed earlier, I saw him on the Situation Room.
- 1:53Speaker 1: Please welcome back to my main conversation, my man, but
- 1:55Speaker 1: carry sellers. Howry it to my brother. Thank you for
- 2:01Speaker 1: tuning in, and thank you for all you're doing, and
- 2:02Speaker 1: thank you for letting me join you as we have
- 2:04Speaker 1: lived for He's called it's awesome. You know. To make
- 2:07Speaker 1: that statement is not built for Snapchat, is not built
- 2:10Speaker 1: for Twitter, is built to govern what motivates you make
- 2:14Speaker 1: that statement there, Bari, Well, you know, I was thinking
- 2:17Speaker 1: about how many times the President elect or President of
- 2:20Speaker 1: the United States, whichever term of art you want to
- 2:23Speaker 1: use to describe him, um get some criticism for uh,
- 2:28Speaker 1: you know, trying to bring people together, and he gets
- 2:30Speaker 1: some criticism for his diligence and um uh and his discipline.
- 2:35Speaker 1: But we recognize now that that discipline, that diligence, it
- 2:39Speaker 1: pays off. And so while on Twitter and Snapchat and
- 2:42Speaker 1: social media, everybody and the mamma want to tell him
- 2:44Speaker 1: what he should be doing. His strategy has worked thus far,
- 2:47Speaker 1: and so sometimes you just have to have faith. And
- 2:49Speaker 1: faith is uh. I'll tell you when he when um
- 2:53Speaker 1: Biden one. My faith has been tested based on what
- 3:00Speaker 1: um President Donald Trump has been doing. When you look
- 3:04Speaker 1: back on this, and it's not over because the man
- 3:06Speaker 1: has over eighty million social media follows, over seventy two
- 3:09Speaker 1: million people voted for him, So he's not going away.
- 3:11Speaker 1: If anybody thinks he's just gonna drift away, they're crazy.
- 3:14Speaker 1: So what do you think about the legacy of Donald
- 3:17Speaker 1: Trump from your perspective, from your viewpoints, not counting this year.
- 3:22Speaker 1: I think it's still still yet to be written. I
- 3:25Speaker 1: think that history will not look kindly upon him. Um.
- 3:31Speaker 1: The most amazing part about how history treats you, and
- 3:33Speaker 1: you don't get a chance to write it yourself. M
- 3:36Speaker 1: you know, it's others who will be able to you.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Don't write your own obituary. Um. You know you know
- 3:42Speaker 1: in the script how and not in the scripture, but
- 3:44Speaker 1: in the church they say, made the work I've done
- 3:46Speaker 1: speak for me, right, Um, So the work he's done
- 3:49Speaker 1: I will speak for him. And I think that the
- 3:52Speaker 1: everlasting stain of bigger treings in a phobian racism is
- 3:55Speaker 1: going to be hard to escape. Um. But I don't
- 3:58Speaker 1: think it's as you said, he ain't going nowhere. Trump is, um,
- 4:01Speaker 1: is going to hover over American politics, in particularly the
- 4:03Speaker 1: Republican Party for a long time, and so we'll have
- 4:06Speaker 1: more time to be able to flesh out what that
- 4:07Speaker 1: really means. And it's really crazy because of the fact
- 4:10Speaker 1: that he um, I don't think he cares about anybody.
- 4:13Speaker 1: That's my just my personal opinion. Not that's not trying
- 4:15Speaker 1: to get you to share that cares about himself. Yes,
- 4:18Speaker 1: he cares about himself and that's really that's really what
- 4:20Speaker 1: motivates him to the point of being able to be
- 4:23Speaker 1: as divisive as he is now. Denmark is the location
- 4:26Speaker 1: of Vorhees, where we hold steing the Voorhies stream of
- 4:29Speaker 1: on where we're trying to raise a million dollars. The
- 4:31Speaker 1: event is December first. Tell us your relationship with the
- 4:34Speaker 1: vorhes College and and in this presence in the Denmark community.
- 4:40Speaker 1: So you know, I'm I'm from Denmo. I know, I know,
- 4:44Speaker 1: I read the book. Remember I read the book about
- 4:46Speaker 1: your dad three miles away from what he's college. I
- 4:50Speaker 1: used to break it into uh the gymnasium over there
- 4:55Speaker 1: bore East College. I used to go swimming during the
- 4:57Speaker 1: summer and in the in the swimming pool live or
- 4:59Speaker 1: East College. My dad Ad was president of where East College.
- 5:01Speaker 1: I went to church at St. Philip's Episcopal But during
- 5:04Speaker 1: this time of covid um, you know, this is a
- 5:08Speaker 1: moment that's even more important than previous moments because when
- 5:11Speaker 1: p w I s and white institutions catch the cold
- 5:14Speaker 1: like they have now, black institutions catch the flu. And
- 5:18Speaker 1: so what we're seeing right now are these institutions where
- 5:22Speaker 1: they're not able to have UM students on campus. I
- 5:25Speaker 1: really need these dollars and resources. And so, you know,
- 5:28Speaker 1: like King said, not just I have a dream speech,
- 5:31Speaker 1: but that fierce urgency of now this is a really
- 5:33Speaker 1: really important moment for this institution UH to make sure
- 5:37Speaker 1: that it not just survives, but thrives going into beyond. Well, um,
- 5:44Speaker 1: Vice President elect, it's an HBCU grad Howard University. Do
- 5:48Speaker 1: you think that's that's important for the HBCU brand. An
- 5:52Speaker 1: HBCU I'm now to have someone in that power position
- 5:55Speaker 1: because hbc has always struggled to find their vorce financially.
- 5:59Speaker 1: Or you know, Donald Trump when you signed the the
- 6:02Speaker 1: law the budget in September of twenty eighteen, said he
- 6:06Speaker 1: did more for HP schools C schools than anybody had
- 6:09Speaker 1: done in history. What can Kamala Harris do? Vice President,
- 6:13Speaker 1: Let Kamala Harris do for HBCU schools moving forward? One
- 6:19Speaker 1: big example, I mean, you know, making sure that. Yeah,
- 6:26Speaker 1: there is no question about the vibe the HBCU experience.
- 6:31Speaker 1: Always look at Kamala Harris and see that as a
- 6:33Speaker 1: Howard rad she's now in the room. She is um
- 6:37Speaker 1: uh one step away from being for one breath away
- 6:39Speaker 1: from being president of the United States. So that that's first.
- 6:43Speaker 1: The second thing is it's always about that shared experience
- 6:45Speaker 1: because she's lived that experience, she knows how to bring
- 6:48Speaker 1: that to the table. And you know this better than most.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Anytime you have a bad black woman at the table,
- 6:53Speaker 1: which are you stronger for? And so I think that
- 6:56Speaker 1: we're going to be stronger for having her there. And
- 6:59Speaker 1: it's really when you look at the whole situation. Now,
- 7:01Speaker 1: you know you were born and raised in South Carolina,
- 7:04Speaker 1: but you went to school in Atlanta, Georgia, Georgia in particular.
- 7:08Speaker 1: So now we have a very uh interesting Senate racist
- 7:11Speaker 1: going down between the Democrats and Republicans. With two seats
- 7:14Speaker 1: can be creative imbalance or balance in the Senate. And
- 7:18Speaker 1: then also but I want to go back and when
- 7:20Speaker 1: when Joe Biden was scuffling, when he was he got
- 7:24Speaker 1: we were bad in the battle. Then he came to
- 7:26Speaker 1: the came to South Carolina and she called he calls
- 7:30Speaker 1: him his friend who came to his rescue. Let's talk
- 7:33Speaker 1: about how important that was. And will his friend James
- 7:38Speaker 1: Clapper and play a role into the upcoming administration of
- 7:41Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Well, I don't think. I don't think Jim's
- 7:45Speaker 1: going to d C. Jim is eighty years old. He
- 7:47Speaker 1: ain't trying to go up. Theren't work that hard. Uh,
- 7:57Speaker 1: you know, I have to losing came a second into DADA,
- 7:59Speaker 1: but losing IW in Hampshire that it became that much
- 8:01Speaker 1: more important. And he was gonna win South Carolina. Like,
- 8:04Speaker 1: let's not get it twisted. Like my mom and daddy
- 8:07Speaker 1: and all of them, we're gonna vote for Joe Biden.
- 8:09Speaker 1: They had the relationship with him, He still had the
- 8:11Speaker 1: Obama halo from working with them eight years. But because
- 8:14Speaker 1: Jim came out in a forceful way that he did, um,
- 8:19Speaker 1: it became resounding. And I think at the resigned Africa
- 8:27Speaker 1: catapulted him through Super two on and and this is
- 8:31Speaker 1: a part of the media's fault. I'm like, you can't
- 8:32Speaker 1: dictate who's gonna be the winner of the primary until
- 8:35Speaker 1: you u until you actually have black people to vote
- 8:37Speaker 1: because ain't no black people voting? I went, ain't no voting, uh, Hampshire.
- 8:40Speaker 1: But as soon as black people did vote, then you
- 8:43Speaker 1: saw what happened. Now when you when you looked at
- 8:46Speaker 1: that we're speaking of voting. You know, we see there's
- 8:48Speaker 1: another recount going on in Georgia. Now this is a
- 8:51Speaker 1: machine count. They did the hand count. Now as a
- 8:53Speaker 1: machine count, we saw one person abstained from voting when
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- 11:18Speaker 1: I mean, I think we have to review that because
- 11:19Speaker 1: we're focusing on human beings. We're focusing on Like in Michigan,
- 11:23Speaker 1: we were focusing on Republicans having a good heart and
- 11:25Speaker 1: one owned did. But I mean, is that do you
- 11:27Speaker 1: always want that to be the case? Um? You know?
- 11:32Speaker 1: So you know these are norms and we need to
- 11:34Speaker 1: make sure that we crystallize these norms and put them
- 11:37Speaker 1: into law. If not, then our democracy is right to
- 11:41Speaker 1: be overtaken. But it held up, and it held up
- 11:45Speaker 1: with Donald Trump. I don't think we're gonna have anybody
- 11:47Speaker 1: nearly as as Bull and China shops Donald Trump, but
- 11:50Speaker 1: it held up through his presidency. So democracy wins and
- 11:53Speaker 1: lives another day. Wow issue did I'm talking to the
- 11:55Speaker 1: Bacari sellers um, we are talking about the goal of
- 11:58Speaker 1: the Dream of Thon to raise one million dollars for
- 12:00Speaker 1: the college doing these unusual pandemic times. You know, this
- 12:04Speaker 1: is H's dream December one. That's Tuesday, December one, when
- 12:08Speaker 1: when it will be the actual stream of th On.
- 12:11Speaker 1: Today is our hype show, getting the word out, letting
- 12:13Speaker 1: everybody know. Today and Sunday, but a Tuesday, we need
- 12:16Speaker 1: your money on Tuesday for the stream of thing. It's
- 12:18Speaker 1: called aforehees stream of thought. If you don't know anything
- 12:20Speaker 1: about The college is based in Denmark, South Carolina. Is
- 12:23Speaker 1: an incredible school. It is a member of the HBCU family,
- 12:27Speaker 1: and we're trying to get the word out. Get You
- 12:30Speaker 1: see on this show, Joe be repaiding this on this show.
- 12:33Speaker 1: You see Don Lewis is on this show, and right
- 12:35Speaker 1: now my man the car Sellers is on this show.
- 12:37Speaker 1: But card has been an interesting year for me, an
- 12:39Speaker 1: interesting year for you. We went through the pandemic, and
- 12:42Speaker 1: we went through civil unrest. And let's talk about the
- 12:44Speaker 1: pandemic and how it impacted you and still impacted us all,
- 12:47Speaker 1: especially African Americans before I get to the civil unrest.
- 12:52Speaker 1: Yeah no, and I'll be at the stream of THWN
- 12:55Speaker 1: on today. I'll actually be in Denmark for about thirty
- 12:57Speaker 1: minutes or so, so please tune in, make sure you
- 13:00Speaker 1: get if you can. UM. You know that this pandemic
- 13:04Speaker 1: ripped it off the inequalities that we have in the communities,
- 13:07Speaker 1: especially when it comes to black and brown folks. UM,
- 13:10Speaker 1: the lack of that quality care. Uh you know, the
- 13:13Speaker 1: fact that the black folk are dying and disproportionately high
- 13:16Speaker 1: rates UM compared to their white counterparts. The business black
- 13:22Speaker 1: businesses are shutting down and the disproportionate rate compared to
- 13:24Speaker 1: their white counterparts. And so with all those things things said,
- 13:28Speaker 1: I just think that that this is the time that
- 13:30Speaker 1: we have to fight through it together and hopefully get
- 13:32Speaker 1: some government assistance as we're moving through and hopefully that's
- 13:35Speaker 1: one of the first things that the Biden Harris administration does. Well.
- 13:40Speaker 1: Will it happen though, what the device isnes you know,
- 13:42Speaker 1: we know there's democratic lead in the House now we're
- 13:46Speaker 1: looking at these two seats. It could be fifty fifty
- 13:48Speaker 1: and the ties being broken by our Vice President elect
- 13:51Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, it could be and then you have a
- 13:57Speaker 1: problem getting people approved in di Biden the cabinet, you
- 14:01Speaker 1: got getting people approved, the potential. I don't want to
- 14:04Speaker 1: say anybody could pass away another potential Supreme Court justice.
- 14:09Speaker 1: Politics have become left and right that I was talking
- 14:11Speaker 1: to my wife, I go, when did they become left
- 14:13Speaker 1: and right? When it became the left side, the radical
- 14:16Speaker 1: left the right? When you keep when liberal became a
- 14:19Speaker 1: bad is that the uh Donald Trump just pulled the
- 14:23Speaker 1: scab off of something that was just just simmering there.
- 14:26Speaker 1: They make it seem like the left is a problem.
- 14:28Speaker 1: The right is the right? That really that bothers me
- 14:31Speaker 1: the most is that whole campaign that there's some radical
- 14:34Speaker 1: I'm looking at the commercials down here in Atlanta. They're
- 14:37Speaker 1: not even the Republicans aren't even runn commercial about what
- 14:40Speaker 1: they're gonna do. They're just screaming about pelosity, screaming about Shuma.
- 14:44Speaker 1: They're screaming about the radical left. What they're gonna do.
- 14:46Speaker 1: They're gonna bring down America. Where did this come from? Bakari? Well,
- 14:52Speaker 1: it's a combination of Trump combination and social media. It's
- 14:55Speaker 1: a combination of twenty far Our news cycles, and it's
- 14:57Speaker 1: a combination awful people running for us right. I always
- 15:01Speaker 1: tell people that you got to stop telling people what
- 15:03Speaker 1: you're against and begin to tell people what you're for.
- 15:05Speaker 1: We just have enough of that. And you see that
- 15:07Speaker 1: down in Georgia with the negative ads they're playing. So, um,
- 15:12Speaker 1: will it get better after Trump? Yeah? Um, but will
- 15:15Speaker 1: it still be hard to push forth an agenda this
- 15:17Speaker 1: good for the country. Yeah, that's why Georgia is so important.
- 15:19Speaker 1: So anybody listening down and we got relatively good to
- 15:24Speaker 1: get on the phone, make phone calls, do everything you can,
- 15:26Speaker 1: because those two seats are that important. Yeah, and because
- 15:29Speaker 1: what I've what I've told people before, the Republicans are
- 15:33Speaker 1: interesting because last you just took several years ago when
- 15:36Speaker 1: also he had gotten into the run off of news
- 15:39Speaker 1: four percent and Karen Handled she had only had gotten
- 15:42Speaker 1: eighteen percent. Well, when the official election came through, she
- 15:45Speaker 1: won fifty eight. His number didn't really even move. His
- 15:48Speaker 1: percentage stayed the same. And so that's what happens. The
- 15:51Speaker 1: Republican Party really goes on into the rural community and
- 15:55Speaker 1: have a stranglehold on that voice. And that's where the
- 15:58Speaker 1: Democrats have to get out there. I know that Stacy
- 16:00Speaker 1: Abrahams has has played a major role in that. Do
- 16:03Speaker 1: you think she's going to have a role in the
- 16:05Speaker 1: Biden cabinet, abandon abandon Brighton presidency right in the next
- 16:09Speaker 1: four years. I'm not going to since she's gonna have
- 16:10Speaker 1: a cabinet seat. Just Stacy's running for governor. So yeah,
- 16:17Speaker 1: I just put that. Chalk that up, Chalk that up.
- 16:21Speaker 1: She's running. She's run up for governor in two so
- 16:25Speaker 1: you know, going to chalk that up. Stacy. Stacy did
- 16:27Speaker 1: the work and so um you know she she Georgia
- 16:30Speaker 1: Blue and so um you know she has the ability
- 16:33Speaker 1: to run. She's gonna raise the money, she's gonna make
- 16:35Speaker 1: it a local racing. We'll see what happens. Well, let's
- 16:38Speaker 1: let's just I'm gonna wrap up this on this start
- 16:39Speaker 1: about the I saw your TV the cast to h
- 16:44Speaker 1: H the civil ar civil arrest tied to how the
- 16:48Speaker 1: treatment of black men. You know, I saw what Van
- 16:50Speaker 1: Jones did, when did when Biden won, you know, and
- 16:55Speaker 1: I know that when that weekend, when uh, all the
- 17:00Speaker 1: march is going, a lot of my white friends called
- 17:02Speaker 1: me and they basically apologize. They basically said I didn't know.
- 17:06Speaker 1: They basically asked me, is it real? Do you do?
- 17:09Speaker 1: You do you live a life like that. For you
- 17:11Speaker 1: don't feel safe, that you don't feel comfortable, that you
- 17:14Speaker 1: walk in the room and you feel that people are
- 17:17Speaker 1: looking at you, not because of what you can do
- 17:19Speaker 1: or what they think that you might do, and it
- 17:21Speaker 1: might be wrong. I say, yes, that's my life every
- 17:23Speaker 1: day as a black man. And it's really, it really
- 17:27Speaker 1: was compelling to see your reaction and Steve and Jones
- 17:31Speaker 1: reaction because of the fact that we know as black
- 17:34Speaker 1: men that it's not gonna change. I'm still gonna be
- 17:38Speaker 1: perceived by a group of people as a negative image.
- 17:42Speaker 1: I'm still gonna be perceived when they that I might
- 17:44Speaker 1: be selling crack if I get in a good car.
- 17:47Speaker 1: You know that that I think that's a reason that
- 17:49Speaker 1: I think that's the reason that you and I are
- 17:51Speaker 1: participating in this program because although we acknowledge the harsh
- 17:54Speaker 1: realities of our experience, we also have to have faith
- 17:57Speaker 1: and hope in the future. And you know the reason
- 17:59Speaker 1: we're helping bar eases because it gives young black men
- 18:02Speaker 1: like you and me an opportunity to have dreams of
- 18:04Speaker 1: the future and go out and when we have to
- 18:07Speaker 1: tear down these stereotypes and rip them apart. So yeah,
- 18:10Speaker 1: it was an emotional summer. It's a hard summer because
- 18:11Speaker 1: I raised little kids and we just have to make
- 18:15Speaker 1: sure that whatever we're doing, we are an example for
- 18:18Speaker 1: them and we continue to destroy these stereotypes. And one
- 18:21Speaker 1: of the ways we do that, it's like giving back
- 18:24Speaker 1: and by one of the ways we get back is
- 18:26Speaker 1: to participate in programs like the one we're doing and
- 18:29Speaker 1: making sure that Vores College not just survives, but thrives.
- 18:33Speaker 1: Thank you, Car said, well, thank you, thank you for
- 18:35Speaker 1: being a part. I Ne're gonna drop our live on
- 18:37Speaker 1: Tuesday for about thirty minutes doing the live stream of thon.
- 18:40Speaker 1: But today is hype day for the Vores College stream
- 18:43Speaker 1: of Thon. We're trying to raise a million dollars. Everybody
- 18:45Speaker 1: used to be the other official days to start making
- 18:47Speaker 1: the donations. Thank you for card, but coming on money
- 18:49Speaker 1: making conversations. Stay strong and I appreciate you. Man, don't change.
- 18:53Speaker 1: Thank you, appreciate it. Have a great day. I won't
- 18:58Speaker 1: appreciate even when you more money. Take of making conversation.
- 19:00Speaker 1: Please go to mind making conversation dot com. I'm Sean McDonald.
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