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Another bleak weekend... · Boxing B-Sides

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All right.
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Holy poo poo.
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We're back.
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Quick turnaround.
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Yeah.
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And it's still a little bit light coming up.
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This weekend's not all that exciting.
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Shannada, how are you gassing yourself up
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for this really light weekend coming up?
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I am not.
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It's a weekend to relax.
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We need to get ourselves in order.
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Yeah.
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The big news kind of kills one of the January cards,
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even though it was already light.
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Yeah, it was already on,
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I don't know if Tinter Hooks is right.
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It was on life support, it just got pulled.
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Yes, life support is correct.
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And yeah, so yeah, fuck it, let's kick it off with that.
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What Sam Goodman pulls out, certainly this time,
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and have you looked into who this young Korean fellow is?
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Because I have not.
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No, well, I checked his box rec.
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It's pretty light.
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He's ranked number 11.
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I guess short notice, that's probably the best they can do.
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Yes, not bad, all things considered.
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I mean, I would be fucking devastated if he pulls off
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like a Buster Douglas or something.
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(*laughs*)
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Man, looking at his thing,
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he's 21, two and two.
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21 wins by, or 13 wins by KO of the 22,
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losses have been decisions.
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He goes by the Troublemaker slash Packy Weather?
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Packy Weather is fucking hilarious and so Korean.
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(*laughs*)
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What are you doing?
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He's a combination of Packy Ow and Mayweather.
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Oh, that's what it is.
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I was, honestly, I was a little confused.
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You didn't get it?
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And I love portmanteaus,
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so I'm a little disappointed with myself.
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I'm surprised you didn't get it.
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He has traveled and fought a bit.
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Okay.
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He's fought in Mexico, America.
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Australia, Thailand.
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Australia, yeah.
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Yeah, he's not a neighborhood good guy,
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but at the same time, he's not great either.
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Who's he loose to?
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Box rec has him at 57th, not great.
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This short of notice, and if you called me up
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and I was like a serious contender and said,
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uh, Sam Goodman's out, do you want to fight in a way?
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I would say, like three weeks notice,
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that's gonna be a fuck no from me.
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I would like to think that I can give myself
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a better chance if I have a full camp.
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Yeah, I don't think it matters who they called right now,
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but you know.
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I mean, get on this guy for taking it.
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He's also kind of old.
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He's not super old.
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32, yeah, but in boxing years, that is getting on a bit.
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Yeah, he is the most Korean looking man ever,
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his box rec.
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Looking at him, like yeah, yeah he is.
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Yeah, all I can really say, all that can be really said,
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I think is congrats on the opportunity.
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I would not wish ill upon you or anything,
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but fucking good luck, dude.
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Yeah.
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I'm sure you believe in yourself, of course you do.
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You would not have answered the call if you didn't,
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but that's a tall ask of anyone, anyone.
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Even like fucking Picasso, who they think is good,
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or MJ, who we, I think is still a good fight.
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That's always hard to ask.
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Yeah, I just, three weeks notice isn't enough,
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but in a way it has to get away from Goodman.
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Goodman has just ruined his chances at his lifetime payday.
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By sparring hard with no helmet, like what are you doing, bud?
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You're the one that's supposed to be wearing head gear.
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If anyone's gonna wear it in your sparring sessions,
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it should be you.
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You're looking at, yeah, the payday of a lifetime,
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and you fucked it up twice.
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Well, I don't think they're gonna give him another chance.
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I doubt they'll ever negotiate, yeah.
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Fuck no, he doesn't deserve it.
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I heard he's going and getting plastic surgery
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to have the scar tissue removed,
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so he's gonna be out for at least six months now.
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Oh, wonderful.
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So he could just be ready for Nakatani when he moves up.
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Yeah, I guess.
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Still be a nice-
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I don't know.
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Nice-ish payday.
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Goodman just fucked himself by, I assume, being stupid.
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He, the press releases say he was wearing head gear, but-
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Oh, he was.
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The guys on Discord have convinced me
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that he wasn't wearing the right head gear
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if he got cut like that.
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It was like above his eye, right?
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Yeah, like along the eyebrow, like everybody cuts.
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Yeah, trying to think of my head gear time.
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I don't know what type of head gear you'd have to be wearing
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to not have the kind of protection
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that he should have had.
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This is a really strange thing to happen twice,
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and how the fuck did you not learn the first time?
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Somebody-
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Yeah, I just, I don't get it.
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I'm losing, I don't know,
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I can't really think of a good way to put it.
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That's just a really stupid thing to do.
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It's really stupid.
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You did it twice.
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The risk management is bad.
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Right.
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It happened once, shit happens.
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Inoue and his, like the team, they obviously,
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we get it, stuff happens.
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You do it again, like, bro, what the fuck?
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Nah, you forget about it.
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Nevermind.
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Maybe you can fight tension.
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Junto, whatever.
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Yeah.
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Disappointment.
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Well, is it a disappointment?
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Like, it's not that anybody was really expecting
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a whole lot out of him.
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At least I wasn't.
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I know you weren't, and I'm certain
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that a lot of the guys in Discord were not either.
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Yeah, I didn't even try and get a ticket for this one.
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I could not care less to watch Inoue
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beat the fuck out of Goodman in person.
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Like, I've seen him twice now.
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Toms.
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Yeah.
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I was gonna go, well, and I'll still go,
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watch it in the bar in Tokyo with the old men.
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But it might be more fun watching him beat up a Korean
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just because of the social implications.
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The Japanese men might be more excited about that
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than the Australian.
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All right, moving on.
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Ring Magazine had their 2024 picks come out.
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I wanted to talk through a couple of them,
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just because, just from how they differ from ours.
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The event of the year came out as Usyk Fury
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with the Ring of Fire title.
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That's the first one.
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That was the winner.
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Yeah, that's the first one.
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And that's the winner.
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I don't, ugh.
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I've never looked at events as a whole.
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I guess, yeah, I guess, but.
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It was long as fuck, though.
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Yeah.
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Half the people fell asleep.
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Female Fighter of the Year.
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It's cool, I get why they do the distinction.
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I don't distinguish between the two.
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Looking on her credentials, Gabriella Fundura,
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the winner, absolutely deserving, beyond deserving,
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of being in the conversation of Fighter of the Year.
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Fuck, I, how does she not even cross my mind,
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is weird thinking on it.
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But Gabriella, fucking congrats.
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She had an awesome year.
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She did, yeah.
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Is it worth distinguishing between them?
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I don't know, I've given Fighter of the Year,
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even over on the MMA side, or even here in boxing,
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I give Fighter of the Year, Fight of the Year,
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to women's fights, or female fighters, all the time.
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I've never thought to distinguish them,
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because they're all boxers to me.
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So, I don't know.
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Yeah, I mean, I can see arguments both ways, I guess.
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Same.
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Because in almost every sport, you have the separation.
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Like, you don't have them competing against each other
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in the ring, so it's hard to compare them to each other.
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I don't know.
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It's hard for some of the women to get Fighter of the Year
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and stuff, because the fights aren't there.
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Yeah, the quality of opponents are not as good
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as it is for the men.
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I think it was 2020.
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I think it's more equality to not split them, but.
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Yeah, 2023, I picked, my Fight of the Year was KJ Taylor
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and Amanda Serrano, the first one.
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And one of my runner-ups was, one in consideration
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was the rematch for 2024.
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The rematch could have been Fight of the Year this year,
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if there wasn't some of the others.
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Right.
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Yep, Gabby should have been, she deserves to be
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in the conversation for Fighter of the Year, just period.
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Just in a manner of how much success she had,
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her accomplishments and everything.
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I don't see any reason to differentiate,
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because she is in the conversation,
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the same conversation as the men.
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So.
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Yeah, part of what might make them less memorable
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is they're always, or not always,
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but usually on the undercard.
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Yeah, true.
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They're getting better at making some of the women's fights
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that are exciting co-main, which is better,
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but lots of times they're kind of just stuck
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in the middle somewhere.
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True.
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All right, moving on, male fighter, Usyk, no shit.
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Who else could it be?
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But my pick, Junto, he was on the mentions, so.
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Nice.
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I was saying in the chat,
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we were watching it together in Discord,
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a lot of the guys were, and I was saying,
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the Fighter of the Year is Usyk.
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There is no fucking question about it.
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The runner-up is the, you know,
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that's the real argument that we're-
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Question.
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Yeah, that's what we're gonna be arguing about.
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Yeah, Usyk wins, no kidding.
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Fight of the Year, I don't know,
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Ray Ford, KO12 over Otabek Kolmatov.
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What?
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Yeah, that's a strange pick.
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What?
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I don't even remember that fight.
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Yeah, I remember it.
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I don't remember it being like
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Fight of the Year contender at any point.
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Not the best pick, but with like his purchasing ring magazine,
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this is just like, the picks are,
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what does he think is fun, I guess.
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Yeah, but why would he think that was fun?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Maybe it was like, of all the cards
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that were in Saudi Arabia, that was Fight of the Year.
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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But I mean, like, I can pick better Saudi fights.
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Yeah.
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Trainer.
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Yeah, same.
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Trainer of the Year, Robert Garcia.
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This is one that we don't have on our selections,
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but before they even started reading out the nominees,
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I was already saying Robert Garcia.
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So if he has like Bam or Virgil Ortiz or Raymour Tai,
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one of his marquee fighters are at the top of the bill.
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He has like two, three, four different fighters
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all the way down the bill, and all of his guys are winning.
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The entire year, all of his guys are winning.
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He goes undefeated at cards all the time.
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Robert Garcia is a,
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this guy takes amateur standouts
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or even just amateur average,
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and he turns them into successful pros,
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and he does it year after year.
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Very deserving.
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Yeah, he's definitely one of the few coaches
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I actually know their names.
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Yeah.
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I don't really follow the,
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I don't really follow any of the kind of
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out of the ring stuff.
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I guess coaches are in the ring, but you know what I mean.
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Right.
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So I honestly don't know who all is coached by who,
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but I definitely recognize Robert Garcia's name.
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Yeah, he's one of those guys where if you hear
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such and such fighter having a little trouble,
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and he goes to Robert Garcia,
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it's one of those things like,
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oh, he can probably improve from here
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just because he has the Robert Garcia Boxing Academy
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behind him.
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Yeah.
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All right, prospect.
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Moses Italma.
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Okay, I think this is recency bias, but it's fine.
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I mean, he is a lot of people's prospect of the year.
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It's not an out to lunch pick.
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Yeah, yeah, you're right.
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Round of the year, Usyk Fury, the first fight, round nine.
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I don't pick, I just, I don't keep track of this.
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So I don't ever pick round of the year.
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I'm sure this one, this one was good.
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I went back to watch to make sure.
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So I don't know.
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Yeah, that's the one where he's wobbled, right?
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He's wobbling Fury, and yeah.
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I mean, it's definitely the most memorable round
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of last year.
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I don't know if it's,
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I don't know how you pick round of the year.
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I don't either.
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I don't get it.
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Like to me, round of the year is so stupid.
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It is.
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Because.
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There's what, how many hundreds,
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if not thousands of fights a year
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that are even paid attention,
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that we even pay attention to,
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let alone how many actually happen.
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This is, I don't know why this is a category.
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It is, that is the obvious choice though.
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Right.
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It's the most memorable and the most talked about round
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for sure.
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And I think.
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Like people discuss that round a lot.
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Right.
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That's what I think it is.
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This isn't a matter of,
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my thinking for round of the year is back and forth action,
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high octane action.
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Whereas this is like Usyk,
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holy shit, he's about to deck Tyson Fury.
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The only guy that we ever thought could do that
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is Deontay Wilder.
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And Usyk's about to do it.
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That's, it's just, yeah, spectacle.
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Not necessarily like action or anything like that.
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So maybe I don't understand the measurement.
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So I don't know.
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Yeah, like to me round of the year
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is usually a whole bunch of punches
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and possibly somebody goes down,
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but usually it's just straight action the whole three minutes.
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Somebody goes down,
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person who goes down comes back and battles back.
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Yeah.
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And you wonder like, holy shit, is that actually 10-8?
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I don't know, cause he fought back so well.
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It has to be, but yeah.
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All right.
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Upset is Saras over Munguia, duh.
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Obvious.
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Yep.
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So the KO of the year, Dubois versus AJ, I guess.
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I heard some people saying that one.
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I don't think so.
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I don't either.
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This is similar to like round of the year.
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It's like the spectacle of it.
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Nobody expected Dubois to do that.
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Yeah, well, and AJ struggling to get up
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was memed on real hard.
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That's right, it was.
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And this one, I don't know what the fuck this even means.
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Lifetime achievement and you give it to Don King?
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Oh fuck, aw.
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What achievement are we talking about?
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Cause if you're talking about-
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The one he stole in?
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Right, if you're talking about fucking fighters over,
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then yeah, this man's been achieving that shit for decades.
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Otherwise, I'm not sure why we're talking about him
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in any sort of a positive manner.
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Well, and why give it to him this year?
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Right.
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What did he achieve this year?
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I don't know.
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Maybe this is like a consolation prize as he heads off
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beyond the veil of life.
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That's a really weird choice and a bad one.
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It is.
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What, but one thing that I thought was interesting
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was once they finished all the awards,
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lifetime achievement was the last one.
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And Michael Buffer, he presented this one
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and he stopped the entire, whatever, ceremony or event
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to congratulate Turkey All All Shake.
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Like, oh, whenever we think about boxing,
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so few people become mononyms.
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He didn't use these exact words,
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but like if I say Iron Mike, you know who I'm talking about.
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If I say Pac-Man, you know who I'm talking about.
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That type of, or who's the real deal?
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You know who I'm talking about.
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Yeah.
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And so he said, I'd like to give my congratulations
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to his excellency.
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And you all know who I'm talking about.
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And you all know who I'm talking about.
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Are you?
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His ass a little harder.
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Yeah.
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Can you, I don't know, man.
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Like when did you lose your gag reflex?
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That's fucking, that is very upsetting.
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Let's be honest.
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Like boxing hasn't had a gag reflex for a very long time.
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That's true, yes.
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Let's move along here.
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Devin Haney is announcing his comeback.
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He's in camp, opponent to be determined.
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I think there's front runners.
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I don't recall off the top of my head who they might be.
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I don't follow Devin Haney, especially after.
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I am not excited to see him again.
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No.
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At all, so.
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I struggled to be excited to see him to begin with.
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All right, Jermell Charlo, the 154 one,
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he's on his way back.
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I also struggle to care about him.
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Yeah.
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It's like what, he made the big Canelo pay
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and then fucked off for however long.
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Man, if you were serious, then you wouldn't have left at all.
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Whatever, you moved up two divisions to lose.
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OK, then you should have kept fighting after that.
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Yeah, anybody who kind of checks out after their big payday,
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they're basically done anyways, I think.
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I would agree with that, absolutely.
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Still fun, I guess, to see another familiar face coming
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back into the 154 mold.
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There's a lot of talent there.
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The Jermell and Crawford rivalries are already there.
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Yeah, I know.
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I'm so bad at weight classes.
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Who's at 154?
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Mortazaliev just beat Tim Tzu.
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Virgil Ortiz, Madremov, Bohacuk.
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I don't know.
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I guess we'll have to see how he looks.
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But I don't picture Charlo hanging with those guys anymore.
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I don't either.
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Not after this.
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He could have.
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But yeah, exactly.
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Like, he clearly doesn't have the drive anymore if he's been out this long.
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I don't know.
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I know he's coming back for a reason.
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And even a shitty payday is more money than I make in five years.
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So who knows?
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Maybe the Puerto Rican pound for pound superstars,
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Ander Zayas is going to sort him out.
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We'll have to see what he looks like.
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Yeah, that's a big question, but he's been gone so long.
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Yeah, that's really the big question about it is.
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And they both have so much out of the ring drama, right?
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Yes, they both do.
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Golden Boy versus Matroom in a five versus five.
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When I looked this up for originally, there was a list of names that they had in mind.
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I don't see this going very well for Golden Boy.
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Golden Boy doesn't have much talent.
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Yeah, they don't have a lot of people.
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So I'm not sure what Oscar's really trying to accomplish.
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But apparently, like negotiations are already underway.
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Well, I mean, he can't do any worse than Eddie did in the first one.
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Like, literally can't do any worse than that.
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He lost every fight and there was three knockouts, right?
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was three.
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Yeah, can't get worse than that.
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I don't care about the out of ring stuff, but I bet you the out of ring stuff would
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be pretty funny on this one.
21:45
Like Oscar talking shit is going to be a whole vibe.
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It will be.
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The clap back videos that he does should be a good time.
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Yeah, if you like that sort of thing.
21:57
I bet you this is exciting.
21:58
I think that might be the most entertaining part about it is just the antics in the buildup.
22:06
Well, I think that's why it's getting made is for the shenanigans.
22:12
Yeah, get Oscar on his shit again.
22:16
So some options that were put out, Jaron Ennis versus Ryan Garcia.
22:21
Are you fucking kidding me?
22:24
What is Garcia allowed to fight yet?
22:30
When's his thing up?
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I expect they're making it so that he'll be able to by this point.
22:37
Fair enough.
22:38
April is April or May.
22:41
I believe it's his when his suspension is up.
22:44
Oh, that's closer than I thought.
22:46
I was hoping he would stay away longer.
22:49
Shakur Stevenson versus Williams Apeyda, that's legitimately a good one.
22:54
Jaya Pataya versus Zerto, also a good one.
22:58
Yeah, I'm being convinced on that.
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Yeah, Jack Cattarall versus Jose Ramirez.
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But Jack Cattarall is already fighting Arnold Barbosa.
23:07
So I guess we'll see between those two.
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This is other than Jaron Ennis versus Ryan Garcia, which I get like on for marquee purposes,
23:18
that's pretty damn good.
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Yeah, well, and the out of ring shenanigans are going to be high on this card, I think.
23:27
Definitely.
23:28
Just Ryan Garcia and Shakur Stevenson, pretty much everyone else is going to be kind of
23:33
sitting like, what the hell is happening as they look around?
23:37
Yeah, but you've got Oscar, Eddie, Ryan and Shakur all doing PR bullshit.
23:45
There's going to be a big buildup of some sort.
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Yeah, definitely.
23:49
Yeah, it's not bad, I guess.
23:54
There's a couple fights I'm excited about.
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If those are the fights.
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Jaya versus Zerto, it stands out to me.
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Yeah, yeah, I want that fight to happen.
24:05
And Shakur and Apeyda, I would like to see that as well.
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Oh, he changed his flag.
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He's now from Kazakhstan.
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Sergey Lipinets is back on February 1st at Wembley Arena.
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OK.
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Who the fuck else is on this?
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Oh, it's a boxer card.
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Never mind.
24:30
So yeah, nobody's going to watch this shit, especially with a at the same day, there's
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going to be a big UFC card at the same time.
24:39
Yeah, this is nobody's going to watch this.
24:41
I'm sorry, Sergey.
24:43
They also have nothing on Boxrec yet.
24:46
Right.
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It doesn't matter if they do or don't.
24:50
Boxer does not have a whole lot to offer.
24:53
Who's Lipinets fighting?
24:54
Adam Azim.
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I don't know who that is.
24:57
No, me neither.
24:58
He's listed as the ace side.
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He's the boxer fighter.
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Lipinets is not.
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That's really it.
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Yeah, that's not exciting.
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No, it's not.
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I mean, this is one for the nostalgic sickos.
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Lipinets is the old guard kind of.
25:21
He's a high action type of fighter, so should be entertaining at the very least.
25:26
I mean, I'll watch it.
25:27
Is his nickname the Samurai?
25:30
Hold on a second.
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It is on Boxrec.
25:34
It used to be the Union Samurai.
25:39
They dropped the Union.
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Yeah, I think because he used to have Russia as his nationality.
25:45
Right.
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So, I think they dropped it for that purpose.
25:48
Fair enough.
25:49
On the 24th of February, we have Junto Nakatani headlining at the Ariake Arena.
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Yeah.
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Tenshin Nasukawa is on this one versus Jason Maloney.
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RIP Jason Maloney.
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You can't hate him.
26:08
Jason Maloney is on this card, I'm 100% sure, because him and Tsutsumi are friends.
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He goes and trains with them in Australia.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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So, it's really funny because the Tsutsumi cheer section always cheers for the Maloney's
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because they're friends.
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Makes sense.
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I'm going to stick out.
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Although it is Tenshin, so maybe I can cheer against Tenshin.
26:34
That's fine.
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Yeah.
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I'm sure you haven't latched onto the anime main character that is Tenshin Nasukawa.
26:45
Fuck, he's so annoying and his fans.
26:48
If I had been in the same arenas or venues that you have, I would probably not like him
26:53
either.
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I'm just watching from a distance.
26:56
He's not terrible, but it's just such main character syndrome and everybody feeds it.
27:03
He gets pop-up stores at Harajuku.
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Why?
27:07
My appreciation started with his growth, maturation as a boxer and how much better he has gotten
27:17
that I've seen, that I've been able to observe.
27:20
And I've been trying to dissect because I was wanting him to kind of fall on his face.
27:25
I mean, he was like a kickboxing karate guy coming into boxing.
27:30
I wanted him to fail.
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I did.
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But seeing his growth, but I don't know.
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All of the way he acts and the way he talks, the way he speaks, I know he acts like a douchebag.
27:42
I know this.
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Well, and again, he acts like a Japanese douchebag.
27:46
He's not doing anything bad.
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It's just his entire attitude and persona.
27:52
I don't think it's a persona.
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No, he's cocky.
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He's super annoyingly cocky and it pisses me off that it works because nobody's been
28:03
able to really do anything about it.
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Yeah, it took Mayweather picking him off as a teenager.
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Yeah.
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Well, I don't think that really counts.
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I don't either.
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It's just going to take like Inoue or Nakatani to do something about this.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He's the fighter I like to hate, to be honest.
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I don't wish any actual ill on him.
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I just want somebody to beat him.
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Yeah.
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Humble him a little bit.
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Yeah.
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Moving up, these are all bantamweight cards too.
28:36
That's really cool.
28:37
Sayasuzumi, the WBA bantamweight champion is fighting Daigo Higa.
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This is an excellent first defense of your title.
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Daigo Higa, battle tested.
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My man's been on the wrong side of decisions.
28:51
You could argue like one or two of his losses the other way, but nonetheless, both of these
28:58
guys come to rumble.
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This is going to be a high action fight.
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This is not going to be a boxing masterclass.
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Definitely not.
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I am so excited for this one.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I guess I haven't said yet, but I bought tickets to this one.
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It's actually while my brother's visiting.
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This is going to be my brother's first live boxing event.
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He's so spoiled.
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This is a good one to start with.
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Yeah.
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And I bought us tickets in the Tsutsumi cheer section again.
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They are actually fairly loud for the Tokyo crowds, the Tsutsumi guys.
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So hopefully we're in that upper tier, but the lower upper tier.
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I don't know how to say that.
29:43
I know what you mean.
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Yeah.
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The first raised seats.
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And I am really hoping that his squad of red leather jackets is in front of us again because
29:54
those guys were entertaining as hell.
29:55
We turned around and like yell at the crowd to cheer for him after every round when he
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was fighting Takuma.
30:05
We might need to look into a merch design for like a...
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For Punch Burger.
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Yeah, for a banner so that you could take it with you and for the Tsutsumi section,
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you just hand it to the fanboys and have them do the waving and all that.
30:21
That would be amazing.
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Yeah.
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I have no idea how I would organize that, but I'm super excited.
30:27
I think this is going to be a hell of a fight.
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Absolutely.
30:31
Like, just stand in the center of the ring and throw punches.
30:35
I would bet the under for going the distance.
30:39
This is not...
30:40
They're both tough though.
30:42
Exactly.
30:43
Oh, you're right.
30:44
I know that's what's fucking rough is it's just that they're both willing to stand there.
30:48
Like Takuma will box, whereas Tsutsumi will not.
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Daigo Higa won't either.
30:55
It's like just how much can they possibly take?
30:58
And Daigo Higa is getting on in years and more wars, more fights.
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But like Higa's only been stopped once.
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Yeah.
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And that was a long time ago.
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True dat.
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Like seven years ago.
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2018?
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April?
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I don't know who could...
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I don't know.
31:16
I might throw a pizza bet on Seiya getting the KO.
31:21
But I don't think Tsutsumi is a real big puncher.
31:25
It's just a million punches.
31:27
Yeah.
31:28
Although he does have a lot of TKOs.
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So...
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Yeah, if he gets enough damage going, if the ref pulls the plug.
31:39
I would probably put...I don't know which, but I would put a pizza on the under for going
31:47
the distance.
31:48
Fair.
31:49
Yeah.
31:50
I'm so excited for this one.
31:52
It's really good.
31:53
This is a really good fight.
31:54
I know that there's going to be a lot of people like, eh, well, whatever.
31:58
It's just some random Japanese people.
32:00
So like who cares?
32:01
But a couple random midgets.
32:03
Right.
32:04
But it's going to be great.
32:07
I used to call them JP midges.
32:09
That feels racist.
32:11
It does.
32:12
Or Asian midges.
32:13
And it felt wrong, so I stopped using it.
32:16
But I felt it was endearing because I appreciate what I'm watching.
32:20
But I can see why that sounds...
32:22
It all depends on how you say it.
32:23
Context matters.
32:24
And yeah.
32:25
All right.
32:26
Last one on this card.
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Junto Nakatani.
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Junto Nakatani is fighting David Guiyar.
32:36
I do not recognize this guy.
32:39
WBC bantamweight title on the line here.
32:43
I expect the winners of this are going to face off with the expectation being that it's
32:49
going to be both of the Japanese fighters.
32:51
Yeah, I guess.
32:53
Daigo Higa doesn't count for a Japanese fighter in this context, unfortunately for him.
32:59
Yeah.
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If the ref leans anyway in that fight, he's going to lean towards Tsutsumi for sure.
33:05
Yeah, I don't know who this Mexican guy is.
33:08
I kind of assumed you'd recognize him.
33:11
28 wins, 18 KOs, no losses, no draws.
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Never fought outside of Mexico.
33:21
With certain nations, you can say that and it doesn't mean as much for others.
33:27
Yeah.
33:28
I mean, Mexico has a lot of good competitive boxing, but I just mean also he's...
33:35
Never left Mexico.
33:36
...hasn't encountered too much difference in styles.
33:42
And to go with the type of Japanese fighter who typically is not too dissimilar from the
33:51
Mexican style of fighting, but this particular Japanese boxer is not cut from the same cloth
33:59
as everyone else.
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Yeah, Nakatani is not a typical Japanese style.
34:05
I don't know enough of a Japanese style to bait Koyar into committing and getting counterpunched.
34:12
Yeah.
34:13
Yeah, I'm much more excited for the co-main on this one, to be honest.
34:18
Same.
34:19
I'm hopeful that at least Koyar is going to give a good enough performance to get his
34:23
name out there because Nakatani is not going to be at 118 forever.
34:28
So having another name in the mix is always good, I feel.
34:32
Well, and I want to see Nakatani put in some rounds.
34:36
I've been to a couple of his fights and I've seen what, like five rounds?
34:42
Yeah, five or six.
34:44
Yep.
34:45
It's not very many.
34:47
Moving on, Tank, Gervonta Davis versus Lamont Roach.
34:51
Oh, I'm sorry.
34:53
Is it Abdul Waheed?
34:55
I think is his chosen name.
34:59
Is it like he said that for a week?
35:01
Yeah, he doesn't go by it.
35:04
So I don't know.
35:05
Just wanted to throw it out there.
35:07
I don't expect a lot out of Lamont Roach here.
35:12
I understand completely why you're going to take it, but I don't expect a lot out of you
35:18
here.
35:19
Sorry.
35:20
This is another one I'm just not very excited for.
35:23
Yeah, I'm not expecting a lot.
35:25
I expect that Frank Martin will have had a better performance than Lamont Roach puts
35:30
in.
35:31
March 15th, Nick Ball versus TJ Doheny.
35:37
Last time we saw Doheny, he was having back problems because he's a shitty old man.
35:44
So who knows what Nick Ball is going to do to him?
35:46
Yeah, I like Nick Ball, so I won't say it's what I actually want, but it would be fucking
35:52
hilarious if Doheny beats him and maybe it'll shut up some of the haters.
35:58
Oh, for the Innoway haters, right?
36:00
Yeah, Innoway haters.
36:02
Yeah, that's unlikely, but I can see why you would want that outcome.
36:07
I mean, I like Nick Ball, so I want him to win.
36:10
That's a good consolation prize.
36:13
If Nick Ball loses, some of the Innoway haters are going to have to admit that Doheny wasn't
36:19
a terrible opponent.
36:20
They have to double check their work a little bit.
36:23
I like Nick Ball because Drip likes Nick Ball.
36:27
He sold me on Nick Ball.
36:29
Well, that's pretty much it.
36:30
Yeah, Drip gets so excited.
36:32
But that's it that we have upcoming for new stuff.
36:36
Like I said, this is a light weekend, so we spend a lot more time here.
36:40
In our recaps, the one we have, December 31st, Lifetime at the Otashi Gym in Tokyo.
36:50
Main event was fucking canceled.
36:52
Garbage.
36:53
Fernando Martinez versus Casito Ioka.
36:55
I started to look into it and I don't know where the Jesse…
37:00
I know where it came from.
37:02
It was me trying to read Japanese.
37:04
Oh, okay.
37:05
Yeah, no, I fucked up.
37:09
That was entirely me trying to read a Japanese newspaper.
37:13
What got me was it's the same date in the same location, but a different year in the
37:20
Japanese calendar and it just messed me up.
37:25
Well, we still… the boys, we all rallied and we watched the card anyway.
37:30
It was pretty mid.
37:32
The card was not great.
37:35
The arena was half empty.
37:37
It was not worth staying up.
37:40
Also, did you say that the commentators said that Tsutsumi is related to Punch Burger?
37:49
I don't remember how I got that, but yes, I did.
37:52
I know I did say that.
37:55
As far as I can tell, they're not related at all.
37:57
No.
37:58
It's just the same last name.
37:59
Yeah, it would be just the same as anybody having the same last name as me.
38:05
It's uncommon, yes, but it's not rare.
38:08
I also don't know how uncommon Tsutsumi is.
38:12
It's not one of the top five, but I don't think it's that uncommon.
38:17
Seiya was there because his gym mate was fighting.
38:21
I tried my best to stalk him and get a signature, but they don't really do that here in Japan,
38:29
I don't think.
38:30
All the important people leave out a different door and they have security all around.
38:36
You can't get anywhere close.
38:39
That was disappointing.
38:40
I was really hoping…
38:42
I have gotten zero autographs since I came here.
38:46
I think that if they wanted to, they would give out autographs because the same here
38:52
in the US.
38:54
If they want to leave out the side door, they can and they have security covering the whole
39:01
thing.
39:03
But typically, they choose to stay to do autographs and some…
39:10
Yeah, I don't think that's as much of a thing here.
39:13
It doesn't seem to be so.
39:15
It seems like you're the only one that's trying to get any autographs.
39:18
Yeah, well, I'm not trying super hard either.
39:23
I stay a little late or if I see them, I try and angle towards there, but they almost always
39:31
leave out a different door.
39:32
The only people I've seen giving autographs and taking pictures and stuff are old retired
39:37
guys.
39:38
That makes sense.
39:39
Yeah.
39:40
Yeah.
39:41
Which is fair.
39:42
I mean, they don't owe me an autograph or anything, but it's also kind of fun to try
39:47
and get one.
39:48
Man, hold on a second.
39:50
Getting back to the lifetime card, did anything stand out to you?
39:54
Nakata KO2 over Yamashiro Aiko Yuki?
39:59
To be honest, nothing stood out to me.
40:04
The fights were pretty mid.
40:06
Yeah, the Hayato Tsutsumi TKO8 over Rene Alvarado was okay, but Rene Alvarado is also very much
40:17
on in years.
40:19
It's more surprising that it took Hayato 8 to finish it more than anything.
40:25
Yeah.
40:26
That Ko-Mane was two old Japanese guys that just stood in the center and banged, but nothing
40:33
exciting happened on this card.
40:35
I didn't see any new guys that I was like, oh, this guy's going to be something.
40:39
Well, yeah, I got you.
40:42
I mean, you watched it.
40:44
I don't remember a lot about it.
40:46
Exactly.
40:47
It was very forgettable, even in person.
40:50
The arena was half empty.
40:52
I don't know.
40:53
I honestly probably should have just got my money back, but I didn't want to sit at home
40:58
on New Year's Eve.
41:00
I spent more time looking for you in the crowd than I did watching the fights.
41:06
Hey.
41:07
Okay.
41:08
So that's it.
41:09
That's all we got for the previews.
41:10
Or the reviews, excuse me, going into the previews.
41:13
There is like fucking nothing, dude.
41:16
I'm serious.
41:17
Just to fill it up, Friday, January 17th in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, King's Promotions.
41:26
This is like a regional thing up in the Northeast.
41:30
I know the names that I do know is really just the main event, Kadir Albright versus
41:36
Damien Rodriguez.
41:38
Those are just names I recognize.
41:39
These aren't people that I necessarily follow very closely.
41:44
I do not recognize these names.
41:47
Moving into Santa Ines.
41:51
This is 360 Promotions.
41:53
I know the name, this is third from the top, I think.
41:58
I'm not sure.
41:59
Ali Akhmedov versus Malcolm Jones at Super Middleweight.
42:03
Mizuki Hiruta versus Maribel Ramirez WBO Super Flyweight title.
42:11
And then Omar Trinidad versus Mike Blania at Featherweight.
42:16
This one's not terrible.
42:17
360 Promotions is on UFC Fight Pass.
42:22
I have a personal rule against giving UFC my money.
42:27
Ah, fair.
42:28
So yeah, if you want to watch these cards, particularly the 360 promos, you're going
42:35
to have to go to Discord, lvxmedia.net at the very top.
42:40
Hit the Discord button.
42:42
Yeah, I don't recognize the two women that are fighting for a title, do you?
42:48
No, I don't.
42:50
Because we should recognize them if they're fighting for a title.
42:53
Right, because we do keep up with this shit.
42:56
Oh, Maribel.
42:57
Oh, this might be me being slightly racist.
43:01
Maribel Ramirez's face looks very familiar.
43:05
I was about to say that Mizuki Hiruta's name does too.
43:10
She's the champ.
43:12
She's fighting.
43:13
She's always fought in Korokuin Hall.
43:16
Yeah, I have never seen a women's fight.
43:21
They're usually on like a Tuesday.
43:23
I've noticed that.
43:25
The women don't get to be on the undercard very often.
43:29
I shouldn't say I've never seen one.
43:30
I think there was one on one card.
43:33
It's a rarity.
43:34
But she seems fun in just Googling her.
43:39
She has the colorful hair and the crazy walkout.
43:43
Yeah, she makes herself seen.
43:45
Yeah.
43:46
Ramirez 15, 10 and 4.
43:50
Three wins by knockout, four losses by KO.
43:55
She's a journeyman.
43:57
She's 38.
44:00
It's pretty clear what this is.
44:02
Yeah, but I think I've seen her fight before.
44:05
Probably seen her lose.
44:09
Yeah, with that resume, I'm certain I have too.
44:12
But still, Mizuki at super flyweight.
44:17
She's been out for over a year because she's listed as inactive.
44:22
Oh, it says her last fight was a year ago yesterday.
44:26
Yeah, so it's just the automatic thing on Boxerick.
44:31
She does seem like she only fights once a year.
44:33
She's weird.
44:34
Marlin Esparza is a champ here.
44:38
This is where I point out.
44:40
I only ever keep up with Marlin because she's cute.
44:44
Erina.
44:46
Yeah, it's something that happens a lot more often on the MMA show.
44:55
You're familiar with RJ from Discord?
44:57
Yeah.
44:58
Yeah, so he's always the one for the people who don't know.
45:03
In the middle of the week, it's Pro Box or Eye of the Tiger, just these random ass cars
45:09
that happen in the middle of the week.
45:12
The fights aren't great, right?
45:14
We're watching prospects build up or whatever random.
45:18
But sometimes the fights are great because they're two perfectly matched mid guys.
45:27
It's regional stuff.
45:30
When they're perfectly matched, then it ends up being really exciting.
45:34
But RJ, to his credit, tries to entertain the fellas with pointing out, oh, look.
45:42
Look at this lovely woman in the crowd.
45:45
Or look at the ring girls.
45:47
Look at how attractive they are.
45:49
See?
45:50
This is entertaining because you like good looking women, which is absolutely true.
45:56
So anytime there's the RJ tag and there's a good looking woman that's fighting.
46:04
Fair enough.
46:05
Yeah.
46:06
I'm still waiting for him to acknowledge that this is your namesake, man.
46:11
This is your legacy.
46:13
You could just fuck off out of Discord and combat sports in general and live your life.
46:19
I'm going to continue using RJ as the tag.
46:22
It's just always going to happen.
46:23
It's just how it is at this point.
46:26
RJ has some legacy.
46:27
Could be worse.
46:30
Could be worse.
46:31
Yes.
46:32
All right.
46:33
Last thing on this session of ours.
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Saturday, January 18th.
46:40
This is in Quezon City, the metro Manila area of the Philippines.
46:44
Many Pacquiao promotions.
46:46
Yes.
46:48
There are so many fights on this car.
46:51
There are a lot of them, yes.
46:53
But this is regional stuff, just like anything else.
46:57
The one at the top, the main event, Alvin Lagumbay versus Pepito Mazancay.
47:04
This is-
47:05
Pepito.
47:06
That's such a cute name.
47:07
Yeah.
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Pepito is his name.
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So this dude's name for all intents and purposes is Little Joseph.
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Little Joe.
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Yeah, Little Joe.
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That's not bad.
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No, it's not actually.
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So that's the top of the bill.
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Because the Philippines, like Boxing Federation, I think that they're trying to replicate the
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JBC sort of structure.
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So I expect that we're going to be seeing whoever wins here graduate up to the OPBF
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level.
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So it's something.
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But is it great?
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No.
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This is a really unfortunate weekend for boxing.
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If you're a double sport fan, then I would suggest checking out Ultimate F'ing Casuals.
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There's actually like a big card coming up this same weekend that promises more entertainment.
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Yeah.
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January is pretty light this year for boxing.
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It's usually December.
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I think it is most years.
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It is because typically like the Japanese pack up December from Christmas Eve all the
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way up to New Year's.
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Yeah.
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Christmas Eve got canceled, the New Year's got canceled.
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Everything got canceled this year.
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The 26th when Ryan Garcia was supposed to fight that Ryzen guy.
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That shit got canceled too.
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Yeah.
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I should have went to the New Year's Ryzen card.
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It sounded like it was pretty fun.
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All of the fight festival that Japan puts on, it seems like they save a lot of their
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good stuff for that.
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Even like a New Japan pro wrestling puts on big stuff at that time.
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I am considering getting us tickets to a professional wrestling match in Korokuen when my brother's
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here because I think pro wrestling is something you have to do in a group.
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Grab his dick and twist it, I think is the go-to.
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It's going to be great.
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Yeah, that would be fun.
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Just an empty week.
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It is not the best week for boxing.
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Alright, that's where the outro shit's gonna go.
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So heading into the... this is not a bottomless pit because this...
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We're gonna get out of it.
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It's just like a really...
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I don't know.
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Is this like a dark forest weekend for boxing?
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We just gotta work our way through it.
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Just gotta keep walking.
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Yep.
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It's not gonna help you to stop and look around, see what the fuck is coming because there
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isn't anything around that's gonna make you feel better.
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Unless you're a double sport fan, in which case, yeah.
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I am not.
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Yeah, go do that.
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But if you're a boxing purist, it's gonna be a rough one.
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Yeah, well and even like the next little while is gonna be rough.
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Oh shit.
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With Goodman.
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Because I was looking forward to the Inouye fight.
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Inouye Goodman, yeah.
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That was supposed to be the saving grace.
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But Goodman dropping out, that fucks the end of January too.
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I will be sending him a strongly worded letter.
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Such a dumbass move.
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How do you do it twice?
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Twice.
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Like what?
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What the fuck?
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Alright, that's the end of man, we're gonna do our best.
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We're gonna carry you through this.
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If nothing else, for entertainment purposes, ultimate effing casual, just because there's
51:44
stuff going on over there, it's just fun banter about the sport, even if you don't know what
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the fuck we're talking about, it's still fun.
51:51
I can tell you that much.
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Yeah, I listen to it even though I don't know any of the fighters and I have no interest
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in watching UFC.
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A good entertaining hour of your time.
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So there you go.
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Otherwise, you stay locked in here with the BoxingBeeSides and we're gonna stay locked
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Because us sickos have to stick together.
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Alright, we will see you next time.
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Bye.
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Thanks for watching.