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This shit ain't nothing to me, man. This is Boxing
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Before Dark. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Back. Back.
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Back. Back. Back. Before. Before. Before. Before.
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Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing Before Dark. This
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is Boxing Before Dark. Pop all the shit. Popping
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shits. Popping shits. It's Boxing Before Dark,
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where shit gets popped. That's actually a decent
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tagline. Yeah, where shit gets popped. Shanada,
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how are you doing? I'm good. It's Sunday for
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you, right? I did not sleep enough. Yeah, it's
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Sunday for me. I did not sleep enough last night.
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I was reading comics and noticed it was 3 a .m.
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So it is now 9 a .m. Yeah, I kind of fucked up.
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It do be like that sometimes. It do. It do. So
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something unrelated that I wanted to bring up
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because I thought it was cool. One of the Miss
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World contestants for Chile is a death metal
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vocalist. I'm going to play it really quickly
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for the audio. Yeah, so imagine, you know, it's
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a Miss World contestant, so this is a very good
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-looking woman. Wow. Yeah, it's pretty fun. I
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think this is for Miss Chile, though. Miss World
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of Chile. Yeah, the winner will be Miss Chile,
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and yeah. Yes, and go on to compete in Miss World.
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I hope she does well. Yeah, I mean, if that's
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what you're bringing to the talent competition,
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then you gotta get some extra points for that.
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Because that's really fucking cool. And unexpected.
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Yeah, for the fun creativity and juxtaposition.
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I do like it. Her outfit's very nice for the
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talent as well. She's wearing a very nice ballroom
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dress. Yeah, kind of Morticia vibe. Not really,
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but kind of. Yeah, kind of. I can see that. Oh,
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man. Let's get into the shit here. Tank and Jake
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Paul is officially cancelled. To the surprise
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of no one. I still... I guess it's just PR vibes.
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But, like, Netflix shouldn't be surprised. Like,
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if this was a problem, they shouldn't have signed
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Tank. It's still weird because this is something
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that happened, as we talked about it before,
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it was something that happened over the course
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of several months. Well, the actual incidents
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were months ago. Right. And it's a civil case,
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so like I said, it's not like he's going to jail
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or anything. Yeah. So, I mean... I think Netflix
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probably was, and Jake Paul or whoever, was having
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trouble dealing with Tank anyways and kind of
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used this as a ripcord. Yeah, I mean, it makes
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sense. Based on what Jake Paul said, that Tank
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was a fucking diva, really difficult to deal
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with. I mean, he comes across like that. Yeah,
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no surprise. Have they officially announced?
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Who's replacing him? Not that I've seen. There
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have been a lot of names floated, like Edgar
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Berlanga got floated. I heard Tommy Fury 2 is
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what's happening, but I don't know if that's
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official or not. That would be cool. It would
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be cool to see that. See an official, a legitimate
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fight. Yeah, I don't think anybody... Well, I
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don't care about Jake Paul, so I guess I can't
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talk. I was going to say, I don't think anybody
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really wants to see that rematch, but I guess
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Jake Paul did lose it. The first one. And he
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could, you know, revenge his loss. I can see
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a storyline there. Whatever keeps Jake Paul in
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the promoter... Whatever gives him power to continue
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promoting is... I'm cool with that. Yeah, I've
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said it before. I do not give a shit about Jake
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Paul fights. Yeah. I really don't either. I like
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to act like it for the memes, but do I really
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care? Nah, not that much. I have come around
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on him being in boxing as a promoter, but...
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Tell you a fight that I do care about. Emmanuel
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Navarrete versus Eduardo Nunez. Unifying their
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WBO and IBF titles. February 28th in Phoenix.
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Nice. I'm excited for that because I'm fucking
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going. You can't stop me. You got to get a ticket
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for that one. That's going to be fun. Yeah, absolutely.
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And I'm sure they'll do... The undercard will
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be fine. I'm hoping to see Emiliano Vargas live.
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That would be cool, yeah. And it would make sense
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to put him on there. But I hope Charlie Suarez
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got some cash for that. Yeah, since he was the
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official banditory challenger, I'm sure they
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gave him something nice to stand aside. He also
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just kind of deserves the rematch. Right. To
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be honest. He does. Would not be surprising if
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he gets the first crack at whoever wins. Yeah,
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I guess that would be a good consolation for
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missing out. Missing the shot at the one title
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to get a crack at two. It's a decent deal. It's
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not a bad deal. And who's the fighter who always...
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I can't remember who said it, but someone's like,
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I fucking love getting paid to not work. That
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sounds like something David Allen would say.
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Yeah, probably. But I don't think it was him.
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I don't think he ever got step -aside money.
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But... It was somebody, they asked him if he
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was upset about the step aside, and he was like,
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man, I just made hundreds of thousands of dollars
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to not do shit. Can't go wrong. Sounds pretty
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awesome. If somebody paid me $100 ,000 to not
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do my job, I would be so happy. Yeah. Oh, was
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that somebody else wants to do it? All right.
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This is also why I'm not a boxer, though. Teofimo
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versus Shakur. All but certain for January in
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New York. This sounds pretty damn cool. I don't
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know. Does it sound like a good fight? It does
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to me. Okay. I don't know. Shakur is so boring.
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If Teofimo can make it not boring. Or if Shakur
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decides to be not boring like he was with Zepeda,
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it'll be great. I'm thinking it'll be more Teofimo.
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If Shakur decides to rigandow it. No, I don't...
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Even if he does decide to rigandow it, I think
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Teofimo can make it exciting. Maybe. I have so
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little faith in Teo anymore. Yeah. I... I don't
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know. I do. I still want to believe. The fucking
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bipolar rock and roller can make some shit happen.
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I mean, he can. I believe he absolutely could.
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I just don't know if I believe he will. I see
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the disconnect there. But maybe I'm just being
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pessimistic. Are you pessimistic about Terrence
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Crawford promoting? It's basically going to be
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what it's going to be. All of his, all of his
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kids on Terrence Crawford promotions. So we're
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really what you can expect. Yeah. I don't know
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if Crawford has the personality to promote. He's
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not flashy enough. Like, the boxers, well, the
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only one I can think of that really got big promoting
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afterwards is De La Hoya. But, like, I don't
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know. I think Crawford's very smart, but I don't
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know if he has the flashy personality to promote
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people. He didn't even promote himself very good
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during his career. That's a good point. I'm just
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in a bad mood today. But like, I don't know.
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Well, I just, he's not going to be a mouthpiece,
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but there are some promoters that aren't. Yeah.
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There's some promoters that aren't, but they
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tend to be like connected old white men. I don't
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know. Crawford's huge. So maybe that's, but Mayweather
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couldn't make it happen. Not really. Mayweather
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hasn't become a big promoter. No, his best fighter
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left. That was really it. Because he wasn't doing
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enough for him. Mayweather is a better talker
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than Crawford. True. I don't know. I just want
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to see Crawford fight more often. I know he's
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lining up his career after he can't box anymore.
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Like Crawford's made so much fucking money. Sometimes
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I think boxers should just retire and be retired.
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There was some chatter that he was thinking about
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going back to 160 and fighting the winner of
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Johnny Beck versus Lara. But I saw that got shut
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down for him. opting to promote instead in the
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same time frame yeah i just i don't know jesus
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christ i'm losing my voice here um i wish crawford
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would just fight more and wait to promote later
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if he's gonna fight more than fight more if not
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then go ahead and get back get to promoting if
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that's what you want to do but like in no no
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teasing of potentially continuing to fight. Yeah,
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like, I don't think he can do both. Right, I
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don't think so either. And personally, I don't
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think he has the personality to be a promoter.
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But, we'll see. Maybe he'll prove me wrong. I
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kind of hope he does, but... Like, I just can't
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think of very many boxers that went on to be
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good promoters. Even Oscar De La Hoya is a stretch.
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He's been the most successful at it. He has,
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yes. I mean, as we're talking, his card is going
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down right now. Yeah, like, you have to say that
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De La Hoya's been reasonably successful as a
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promoter. Oh, for sure. He absolutely has been.
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But he's not the best promoter out there. No,
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he's not. He's not even in the A -tier conversation.
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I'd say he's B -tier, though. Yeah, that's absolutely
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fair. The matchroom and the Brits, I think, right
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now are the best promoters of who's available.
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Top Rank has fallen off. Golden Boy has fallen
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off. There's not a whole lot. Yeah, Matchroom
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and Queensberry are really kind of running things
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right now. Yeah. Much to my chagrin. Hate having
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to give props to Brits. Something like, I gotta
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learn how to do it. At least for survival. Survival
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mode. Oh, yeah, yeah. You haven't talked about
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that on the podcast yet. I have not. We'll get
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to it at the end. Xander Zayas versus Abbas Baru
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is all but certain for January 31st. So this
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is a unification of the WBA and WBO and WBA titles.
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I mean, it makes sense. Zayas is the one that
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they want to be big and Baru's the easy. Weakest
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other belt, yeah. Yep. I kind of hope Beru pulls
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it off and upsets Zaius though. I fucking love
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it. That would just be too goddamn funny. I just...
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Zaius is... I don't think he's all that good.
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I don't either. I'm not sold. Even though he
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has a belt now, he kind of got it on easy mode.
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Because, who was it? Fundora had that title.
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And chose to give it up. Yeah. So, you know,
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shoulder shrug. Well, and like, Zaius is really
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young. He could get better. But now that he's
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got a title, he can't really go backwards. You
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know? That's the problem with kind of rushing
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people. Yeah, he doesn't have the luxury anymore.
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Now that he's a title holder, you can't... At
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this point and this point going forward, you
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don't have the luxury of taking backward steps.
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And Abbas Baru kind of gets a little bit of a
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pass because he's a title holder. But this is
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a bit of a backward step or a lateral step at
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best. But he has a title, so you can't say he's
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a nobody. Right. Right? Right. But. Because where
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is Beru from? He's German. Yeah. I would just
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love to see him upset Zaius in New York. I think
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that would be fucking great. This random ass
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German dude. Yeah. The Puerto Rican... I don't
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want to say star, but... What do they call them?
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New Yoricans? New Yoricans, yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
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I would love to see it, but probably won't happen.
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Would be great if it did. It would be too goddamn
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funny. This random German becoming unified champion.
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Yeah, and who does he call out after that? Does
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he say, I want to fight Sebastian Fedora? I mean,
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he kind of has to call out. Who else has... Is
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it just Pandora that has belts? Bakra and Murtazali.
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Those are the only two people he can really call
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out. Oh, that's a hard... He loses to either
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of them. Yeah. Um... Murta probably hurts less.
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A less damaging outing? Yeah. Interesting move.
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AJ is bringing Usyk into his camp. Into his training
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camp. Do you think this is a good or a bad idea?
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I think AJ changes stuff too often. AJ is constantly
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changing trainers. I think he complicates things.
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He tries to do too much. I think Usyk would be
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fun to train with. But, like, AJ's not gonna
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replicate Usyk's style. Especially not at fuckin'
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old band age. Mid -thirties? Yeah. I don't know.
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It's good for publicity. AJ might be able to
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be a good promoter. Tying things backwards, but...
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I can see AJ doing okay. At least as the figurehead.
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He'd need people who knew what they were doing
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around him. Yeah. I think you put it really well
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with saying AJ tries to do too much. He tries
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to do too many different things just because
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he's had recent difficulties with success. So
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now he's trying to bring in his nemesis into
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camp. I guess it kind of depends the capacity
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that you're bringing him in. But yeah, even after
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it was, what was it? Andy Ruiz 2, where he was
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really boxed behind a jab. He was really mobile.
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I can kind of see how you might want to take
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that direction to another level. That's what
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that gets older. That gets harder when you're
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older. Right. And I was going to say Usyk is
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if somebody can teach you how to age that properly,
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it would be him. That's true. I don't know. I
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just think AJ tries to change everything all
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the time. Yeah. Like, he feels that he has to
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reinvent himself whenever something doesn't go
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right. Yeah. And, like, once you have success,
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I feel you need to lean into your strengths.
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Like, shore up your weaknesses, but you can't
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just make your weaknesses your strengths anymore.
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Like, I think that's something you can do in
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your early 20s sometimes. But, like... Once you
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get your style, just perfect your style. Don't
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change it. If it's just mostly for publicity,
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I don't see a problem with it. It could very
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well be. Like, get some fun Instagram reels of
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the two of them dancing and shit. I could see
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Usyk being fun, but if he's going to try and
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steal his style, it's not going to work. Makes
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me think of, we talked about Tim Zhu going with
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a Cuban trainer. Yeah, I'm still on the fence
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about that too. I don't think Tim Zhu's personal
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style is going to mesh with a Cuban coach. AJ's
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style could be closer to Usyk's, but he changes
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it so often it's hard to tell what his natural
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style is. It would have to be. If they're going
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to have success, if AJ and Usyk are going to
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have success together, it's going to have to
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be taking it back to that Andy Ruiz 2. To me,
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that's the only way that this is going to bear
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any fruit. Otherwise, I don't see Usyk doing
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a whole lot for AJ. publicity yeah that's really
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it uh barry mario barrios versus ryan garcia
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practically it's all but set for q1 of 26 yeah
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i saw they lifted the ban on garcia yeah the
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ban for being a fucking racist that's They said
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that they were monitoring closely affiliated
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with his... I'm not sure how to phrase this,
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but his de -racisting? Undoing the racism? Or
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something? Yeah, I don't know. Because that's
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a thing. Yeah, totally. Deprogramming? Jesus
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Christ. Ryan Garcia is such a dumpster fire.
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Yeah, I'm not. But also, I mean, like, banning
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him for being racist is fucking ridiculous in
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boxing. WBC has done it before. It's not new
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to them to doing it. Like in everything else,
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they're not consistent. None of these organizations
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are consistent. Like... I find it very stupid
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when they put a ban on Garcia, but there's other
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fighters they let fight who've said worse things
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on camera. They're just not as famous. Everybody
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keeps telling me that Garcia is just going to
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knock out Barrios, but I don't know if he is.
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Barrios knows how to survive. Yeah, and like,
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if Garcia doesn't land that left hook, he's gonna
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lose. Barrios can outbox Garcia. I would like
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for Barrios and Garcia to have a draw. Three
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title defense draws in a row has to be historical.
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Yeah, that's why I'm hoping it happens. I also
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do kind of want that. But also, I just want Garcia
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to lose to the worst title holder ever, and then
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people might fuck off about how Ryan Garcia is
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good. Even if he does lose, he'll still always
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be that left hook. That'll always be his calling
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card. Yeah, but one punch doesn't make you good.
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Yeah, you're right. It doesn't, but... It does
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make for good memes when you're fighting the
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worst fucking Titleist at 147. Yeah. But, like,
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if Barrios can just remember to keep his hand
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up... He'll be fine. Barrios needs to bring Rollie
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in to train at camp. What a team. What a team.
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Two division title holder. Fuck yes. Two bums.
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Two bums. Moving to Artur Beterbiev. He's a free
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agent now. So he's got this fight coming up in
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mid -November. And after that, he's a free agent.
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And apparently he's already courting offers.
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I don't know. He's almost 40. Who is he with?
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Top Rank. He's almost 40. He's going to end up
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with fucking Eye of the Tiger or something terrible.
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Oh, that would be... I don't think so. That would
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be fucking hilarious. No. I mean, he's probably
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just going to sign with Top Rank again, isn't
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he? From what I've heard from him and his manager,
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so like what, grain of salt or whatever, but
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it's that he's looking elsewhere. He's not looking
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to re -sign with Top Rank. I guess Top Rank still
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doesn't have a partner. They don't have the goods
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to keep him busy. Matchroom? Mattroom, Queensberry.
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The Brits are taking over. Yeah, couldn't go
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wrong right now. They have broadcast deals. They
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got Saudi financing. Yeah, I was going to say,
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Turkey likes them. I wonder if Dana White tries
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to poach him. That would be quite a get. Because
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as you get heavier, you get higher up in the
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divisions, you can kind of forego age a little
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bit more. Yeah. And like, Better BF isn't the
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most expensive of those guys. No. And then they
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could say, look, our minimums are minimums. We're
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paying this guy much more. I don't know. I kind
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of hope that doesn't happen. I don't think that
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Zufa will be able to poach Beterbiev. He could
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just ask his... I don't know. I don't know if
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Beterbiev is Dagestani or Chechen, but he can
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ask one of his homies, like, what's Dana White
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like? And they'll give him the scoop. That's
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true. I don't know where Beterbiev is from. He's
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Russian, yes, but what region of Russia is he
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from? Yeah, that's what I meant. Born... Yeah,
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he is Dagestani. Okay. Goddamn, he's old. He's
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older than us, Leo. He was born in the Soviet
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Union. So aging oneself. I think I was born at
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the very end of it. The very tail end. The waning
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months. We're the same age. Yeah. Another interesting
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free agency that came to a close. Clarissa Shields
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signs an $8 million two -year deal with Salida
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Promotions. I always forget Salida exists, to
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be honest. Clarissa Shields is pretty much the
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only reason that anyone cares about it. And caring
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about it, I'm using that very gratuitously. Yeah,
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Clarissa Shields is a weird one. She suffers
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from success to some extent. She's just so good
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that she's boring. Like, her fights aren't exciting.
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There's nobody anywhere near her weight class.
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Yeah, the few that are at heavyweight are not
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even close. Yeah. I think she's already beaten
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all of the challengers that do exist at heavyweight.
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But, like, she could come down if she wanted
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to, but there's nobody to drag her down either.
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Like, I don't think Clarissa needs to be a heavyweight.
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No. She could cut down, but there's nobody to
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incentivize that. I can't think of any women
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at the higher weight classes with any name recognition.
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Yeah, I can't either. Yeah, her career is kind
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of a weird one. Now, I have this. Instead of
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Q1, it's T1. It's trimester one. As much as I
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like using the term trimester to mean four months,
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but most people don't. The implication of trimester
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is not at all to do with the calendar. Understandably
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so. But sometime in T1 of 26, Resendiz versus
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Berlingo. That could be a banger, maybe. Yeah,
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Resendiz comes to... He's a clubber. Berlingo.
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Similarly. We're gonna get to see the symbol
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monkey again. Maybe. Oh, that'll be nice. Yeah,
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I don't know how I feel about Berlanga. I was
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never super high on him anyways. But I think
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we've kind of seen his ceiling now. Yes. If nothing
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else, we know his ceiling. Yeah, I'm not sure
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what to make of him either. I do like calling
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him Kony, King of New York, for funsies. That's
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always fun. But I got nothing other than T126.
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Yeah, the memes are fun, but I also wouldn't
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be surprised if Resendiz pulled off the upset.
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I assume it would be an upset. I don't think
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so. I think the bookies are going to have Berlanga
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as the favorite. That, okay, yes. The bookies
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probably have Berlanga up just because he's more
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known. Yeah. Oh, shit. This one is a Shanada
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favorite. Tsutsumi versus Nonito Donair for the
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WBA question mark title. Yeah, we can get into
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that in a second, but I'm so excited. I am definitely
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buying a ticket for this one. And I know he's
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well past it, but I'm super excited to see Donair
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fight in person. He was one of my favorites like
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years ago. I do think Tsutsumi is going to be
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too much for him. But Donair always has that
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puncher's chance still. The Ryan Garcia chants?
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Don't call it that. It is the left hook, too.
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Tsutsumi gets hit. And Donair still has power.
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But I don't think he can pull it off. And I don't
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want him to. I want Tsutsumi to win. But... I
33:39
do feel like the WBA is just fucking with Tsutsumi,
33:43
though. Like... He fought earlier this year and
33:47
they put him in recess instantly as soon as he
33:50
said he had that eye injury. Like, he fought
33:55
this February, right, Tsutsumi? It was in the
33:59
beginning of the year, yes. But, like, that's
34:03
not that long of a time off. That's seven months.
34:10
Fighters go seven months without fighting and
34:12
keep their titles all the fucking time. Yeah.
34:16
And he's coming out of recess and doesn't get
34:18
to fight for the actual title. What the fuck's
34:22
up with that? And the JBC apparently doesn't
34:29
recognize interim belts. So he's not even fighting
34:33
for Donair's interim. Not really. No, he wouldn't
34:39
be if the JBC is going to sanction it. Well,
34:43
the fight's in Tokyo, so it's going to be the
34:46
JBC. It's not going to be available for Sutsumi
34:51
to win. So, like, I don't hate this fight, but
34:57
what the fuck is it for? Yeah, like, Sutsumi's
35:01
the champion in recess. Antonio Vargas is the
35:05
full champion. Nonito Donair is the interim champion.
35:12
This is an instance where you should leave the
35:16
World Championship vacant. You have an interim,
35:21
and then the champion in recess comes back, and
35:25
they fight for the full title. Just how it should
35:30
work. Well, I mean, Tsutsumi shouldn't have been
35:33
put in recess, I don't think. Like, he's fighting
35:36
again within a year. Yeah, you're right. He shouldn't
35:41
have been. And it's not like this is unexpected.
35:47
It wasn't like his eye surgery was something
35:51
that was going to put him on the shelf for a
35:54
long time. He always planned to fight again soon.
36:00
Within a calendar year. Yeah, which lots of champs
36:06
get way longer than a calendar year without being
36:12
I guess he's not stripped, but... I don't know.
36:15
I just... I feel like they've treated him like
36:17
shit, and I don't understand why. He's not controversial.
36:22
Like, I... I haven't heard any scandals with
36:26
him. Uh, he's... He's fun. Like, his Punchburger
36:33
-style persona is fun. I don't get it. I don't
36:38
know why they're fucking with him so bad. Okay,
36:42
they recessed him. At least let him fight for
36:44
his title when he comes back. You could try hitting
36:48
up the... I think it's still Gilberto Mendoza.
36:55
Still the head of the WBA. Just call him up.
36:59
Hit him up on Twitter. Hit him up on Twitter
37:01
and say what the shit, man. I don't have a Twitter,
37:06
but I think it's bullshit. It is bullshit. And
37:10
I know I'm biased, but I think this is not my
37:13
bias. This is just straight -up bullshit. I don't
37:16
understand why they did this. Like, again, I
37:26
don't think he will lose, but I also think that
37:29
it's not a 0 % chance. Like, what's he get if
37:35
he... He gets nothing if he wins. And if he loses,
37:39
they're not going to let him fight for his title.
37:44
But it just seems a weird way to move. I'm not
37:48
a fan. It is. It's a weird situation. It definitely
37:53
needs some clarification. It kind of feels like
37:57
they just don't want him to be the champion.
38:00
And I can't figure out a reason why. Like, I
38:04
know he wasn't supposed to beat Takuma, but he
38:07
did. Get over it. Shoulder shrug. No idea. Speaking
38:14
of shoulder shrugs, Pacquiao, Manny Pacquiao
38:18
is the vice president of the IBA. Yeah. Weird
38:24
fucking move. Like, you're famous for the Olympic
38:28
controversies. and you've been kicked out of
38:33
amateur boxing, basically, or Olympic boxing,
38:37
and you elect an active fighter and promoter
38:42
to the vice president position. It's a weird
38:47
fucking move. Like, that's a huge conflict of
38:51
interest. The IBA only really deals with the
38:57
amateur stuff, doesn't it? Yeah, but Pacquiao's
39:01
promotions has a lot of amateur fighters. They're
39:06
sanctioning a lot of those fights in the Philippines.
39:12
Okay, that is definitely an interesting situation.
39:17
I just... I know Pacquiao's mostly just a name.
39:21
I'm sure he's not actually doing shit. But just
39:24
in general, having... Somebody that's an active
39:27
fighter on the board of one of these things seems
39:30
like a bad move. I know the IBA isn't going to
39:36
be sanctioning any of Pacquiao's personal fights,
39:40
but... I don't know. I just think it sounds stupid.
39:45
And dollars to donuts, Pacquiao's kids are all
39:49
gonna be getting something from the IBA. Because
39:54
they do have regional belts and stuff, don't
39:58
they? I honestly don't know. I thought that the
40:02
IBA was just the group that oversaw the Olympic
40:10
boxing and the world championships that happen
40:13
at different years, different places, like Pan
40:16
American games, Asian games, etc. Maybe I...
40:24
I don't follow this stuff enough. I shouldn't
40:26
talk about it. But, I mean, Pacquiao Promotions
40:33
is going to have fighters in those Pan -Asian
40:35
games and stuff. Yeah, that they will, I'm sure.
40:42
And which of the big organizations fucks with
40:48
the IBA? Is it the WBA? I don't know. Anyways,
40:58
maybe it's not as big a controversy as I thought
41:01
it was. It seems really like a strange situation
41:05
to me. Yeah, I would give it strange as well.
41:11
I think that it's like a figurehead, just like
41:15
you had said. Pacquiao's just a name, so they're
41:18
putting him into a very important seat. very
41:23
important with you know really heavy air quotations
41:27
yeah and like vice president probably doesn't
41:32
have any real ability to do but i don't know
41:37
i just it seems a weird move to have an active
41:41
fighter on one of those boards active fighter
41:44
active promoter yeah yeah Anything more for the
41:51
news and info, news and rumors stuff? I don't
41:56
think so. All right. Well, some notes here. You
42:04
heard me mention Twitter, LVX Media Net. If you
42:07
want to see how it breaks down with me and Gilberto
42:11
Mendoza, we're going to hash out this fucking
42:16
Tsutsumi Donair situation. It'll happen on Twitter.
42:21
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word. Recaps. Queensberry at the Co -op Live
46:58
Arena in Manchester, England. I only picked up
47:02
two. Lyndon Arthur, majority decision over Bradley
47:07
Ray. I think that's how they were saying it.
47:11
Yeah, I don't know. Rhea is the genus name. It's
47:16
the genus name for ostriches and all those big
47:19
birds. Bradley Big Bird? Yeah, he kind of looks
47:26
like an ostrich. Lyndon Arthur fucking soundly
47:30
outboxed him. I thought I was confused because
47:34
the commentary kept talking about how Bradley
47:37
Ray was doing amazing or whatever. But I was
47:41
like, Lyndon Arthur is like piecing him up with
47:44
that jab. I don't know. It was definitely a comeback
47:49
for Arthur. Like he was hurt and losing. Oh shit,
47:54
he got dropped in the second. That's right. Yeah,
47:57
so. And he got hurt again in the fourth or something.
48:03
But then the last three quarters of the fight,
48:06
yeah, Arthur just completely outboxed him. Rhea's
48:12
corner was giving him the no bullshit talk there.
48:18
I think it was... before the second last round
48:22
it's like you're gonna be I forget what stadium
48:26
it was not stadium but like hall he's like you're
48:29
gonna be back at the hall you were at when you
48:31
were a kid you don't want that fucking go out
48:33
and win these two rounds and then Rhea did not
48:37
so yeah Lyndon Arthur boxed some soundly the
48:44
decision was a lot closer than I would have expected
48:47
I guess the knockdown brought it up on points
48:51
but i don't know i i thought it was pretty close
48:56
like i gave most of the first few rounds to to
49:01
bradley yeah and then with the knockdown i i
49:08
think lyndon arthur did win it but i thought
49:11
it was a close fight i gotta it was actually
49:14
pretty fun it was i was surprised I've got to
49:18
stop being so much of a contrarian. Because pretty
49:21
much anything the commentary says, I immediately
49:24
start thinking the opposite. Especially with
49:27
those British guys. Because they lay it on so
49:30
fucking thick. Yeah, yeah. Dudes chill out. They
49:34
like to slurp their favorites for sure. But...
49:39
Now, this fight's worth going and watching if
49:42
you missed it. Because I have to admit, I kind
49:45
of... didn't care about this card at all i didn't
49:49
either and yeah like we both agreed to go back
49:53
and watch it and i'm very glad i did yeah yeah
49:58
this fight was fun but lyndon arthur's looking
50:01
old he's looking the worst for wear yes like
50:06
he got hurt too easy it happened too quickly
50:12
yeah you're right it happened really quickly
50:18
Oh, Joshua Buozzi. Majority decision over Zach
50:21
Parker. This one, the commentary did not agree
50:26
with. I don't know. I was kind of fading in and
50:34
out of it. Like, this was certainly a fight of
50:36
all time. It was boring as hell. Yeah. Okay.
50:41
There was a lot of... No. There was a lot of
50:44
punch, punch, clinch. And, like, Parker kept
50:49
coming in with his head down really low, and
50:52
Boazzi just, like, headlock him, and then they'd
50:56
break, and then they'd throw four punches, and
50:58
it was another headlock. I felt like Boazzi wasn't
51:04
throwing enough punches at all. I thought Parker
51:10
probably won it as well. But... What did comms
51:18
have on that one? They gave one round to Blotzy?
51:21
Like, they were pissed at the scorecards. One
51:25
round to Blotzy? Yeah. Wow. I don't think that
51:31
was fair either. But they had Parker winning
51:38
handily. It was just kind of a boring fight.
51:49
Oh, keeping that trend. Matchroom at the Caribe
51:54
Royale in Orlando, Florida. Three really quickly.
52:00
Nishant Dev gets the UD over Juan Carlos Campos
52:04
Medina. Pat Brown with the quick stoppage. KO2
52:09
over Felix Valera. Yoelvis Gomez split draw over
52:14
Entrevious Ingram. And like I said, keeping in
52:19
the theme of boring, Lanier Pero versus Jordan
52:23
Thompson. Pero gets the UD. Got deducted a point
52:31
for low blows. it was i have to admit i tried
52:39
to watch this one and i just got so fucking bored
52:43
that's how i was with watsi parker like i was
52:46
like this is this is a fight of all time and
52:49
i really just do not have the patience yeah that
52:54
was me on this one i had it on and i realized
52:57
i wasn't watching and i went back and then realized
53:02
i wasn't watching and i was like fuck it i watched
53:04
the highlights but There weren't any highlights?
53:08
You didn't miss a whole lot. This was a pretty
53:14
rough one. I also don't care about either of
53:19
these people. They brought up Gerald Miller.
53:23
Lanier and Gerald Miller were jaw -jacking at
53:27
each other. Overall, it was a pretty lackluster
53:33
affair. But do you know what wasn't a lackluster
53:40
affair? Probox. On Friday, November 7th, Probox
53:45
on YouTube. I fucking love Probox. Oh, my God.
53:52
Probox delivered. Probox delivered. Dominic Valle
53:57
gets the UD over Miguel Anquenoit. Rene Alvarado.
54:02
I'm sorry. So they had a late replacement. And
54:08
Dominic Valle got the job done. He looked dominant.
54:12
Rene did have some questions to pose to Valle.
54:18
And Valle had all the answers. So not much more
54:22
to say about it. Katsuma Akitsugi. Stoppage in
54:29
seven over Vincent Astrolabio. Death by a thousand
54:34
cuts. Every fucking time. This made me so happy,
54:38
because someone in Discord was like, ah, this
54:41
guy's only got three knockouts, this is gonna
54:43
be boring as fuck. And I was like, no! You sit
54:46
down and you watch this. Stand the fuck by. Stand
54:50
by. It was great. It's just, he throws so many
54:55
punches, and so many different punches. Like,
54:59
he must just be a fucking nightmare. Because
55:05
you're like, ah, where's it coming? Oh, no. Why
55:08
won't it stop? Do I guard my body? Oops, I get
55:11
an uppercut. Do I guard my face? Oops, I get
55:14
punched to the liver. And down I go for the fourth
55:17
time in the fight. Australavio. I don't know
55:22
if he's just weak to the body or bad at defending
55:26
it. Because I do think... Akitsugi landed some
55:31
pretty hard, very precise body shots that put
55:34
Astrolabio down. But even without his sickly
55:40
appendix, Astrolabio was going down hard with
55:44
the body shots. But he got up every fucking time.
55:48
Yeah. Which is crazy. Yeah, you can't doubt his
55:52
spirit. Yeah, he went down with a liver shot.
55:55
He went down with a spleen shot. He went down
55:58
with a solar plexus shot. He was down five times
56:01
in that fight before the ref called in. And I
56:05
know they're body shots, but like going down
56:09
five times in a fight. That's going down after
56:13
getting pieced up for like 20 to 30 seconds.
56:17
Yeah. Yeah, they're not one shot knockdowns.
56:21
Like that's not. It was a fun fight. Astrolabio
56:26
got in a few good shots as well, but... Yeah,
56:33
it seemed like Akitsuki had his number pretty
56:35
much from the beginning. Sorry, the ice cream
56:42
truck is going by, I think. Somebody with music
56:48
and a loudspeaker anyways. Yeah, no, I... I really
56:53
like Akitsugi. He's an all -action style. He
56:58
does not have one -punch power, but I think he's
57:04
gotten knockouts in all of his pro box fights.
57:08
He has, yes. He had zero knockouts, and now he
57:12
has three or four? Three. Three? Yeah. Oh, I
57:19
like this guy. People should watch him. His nickname's
57:23
also fun. We were trying to... I was trying to
57:28
figure it out on Discord because it's slang.
57:31
But he's like the little Japanese firework or
57:34
something. Yeah, that's exactly it. Yeah. But...
57:40
Oh, Delonte Johnson stops Nicholas Flass in four.
57:51
I was surprised at how one -sided this was. Me
57:54
too. Like, flaws didn't just had answers for
57:59
nothing. Yeah, he got rocked pretty early. That
58:05
ref also wanted to see a dead body. Jesus Christ.
58:10
Yeah, he might have. That could have been stopped
58:14
earlier. And if flaws hadn't stumbled, he was
58:18
going to let it go. Like, that was anti -Brit
58:26
reffing. Johnson looked really good, though.
58:31
Yes. I have high hopes. Because the welterweight
58:38
division definitely needs people. Yeah. So I'm
58:45
hopeful that Flos can rebound. Because that loss
58:52
to Delonte Johnson, it was bad, yes, but it doesn't
58:58
have to be the end of the career. He already
59:01
had two losses, so I'm sure he'll make a comeback.
59:06
Provox will give him more shots, I think. For
59:08
sure. Like, that's kind of their thing. A loss
59:13
doesn't end it. Yeah, and if you're in an exciting
59:17
fight... You're gonna get another shot. Yeah.
59:24
But Delonte Johnson came into this 28th at welterweight
59:30
on BoxRec. What? Let me see. He's now... Where
59:47
the fuck is he? Ninth. Holy shit. That's a big
59:53
jump. That is huge. Nice. I wonder if that's
1:00:01
gonna get him... Was he in the rankings with
1:00:05
anybody? Not that I know of. I wonder if that'll
1:00:09
jump him. Welters 147, right? Yes. Well, Nicholas
1:00:27
Flaws was ranked 11th with the WBO. Which is
1:00:35
what these guys are probably going to be ranked
1:00:38
with because they were fighting for some North
1:00:40
American title from them. Nicholas Flaws was
1:00:45
also ranked Tense with the IBF. So that should
1:00:52
get Williams into some rankings, I would think.
1:00:57
Johnson? Jesus Christ, yeah. How about Jim Sasaki?
1:01:05
I mean, leave Sasaki alone, but... Is he even
1:01:12
still in the rankings? He's 12th. This is all
1:01:16
box rec. That's what I'm going off of. Oh, I
1:01:20
pulled up the standings for each belt. Sasaki
1:01:27
is not listed by any of the belt guys. Nor should
1:01:31
he be. Why did I call him Johnson? I called Pommy
1:01:39
Fury Huey Fury yesterday too. I'm just pulling
1:01:42
names out of my ass now. They're not even close.
1:01:45
It's alright. Yeah, anyways, I think that should
1:01:51
jump. Tiger. Oh, that's why I called him Williams.
1:01:59
His nickname's Tiger. Ammo, yeah. No, Tiger Williams
1:02:06
was a really old hockey player. Anyways, doesn't
1:02:11
matter. It was a good fight. Actually, all the
1:02:16
fights on the ProBox card were fun. People should
1:02:19
just go watch ProBox. It's free. It's free on
1:02:22
YouTube. Can't go wrong. Plus you get to see
1:02:24
Pauly Molinaggi with an eyepatch this week. Eyepatch
1:02:30
Pauly. You go with eyepatch Pauly and not pirate
1:02:35
Pauly? The parrots are always called Pauly too.
1:02:41
It's even funnier. I just got a finger gun. Cause
1:02:44
like, yep, you got it. I should have went with
1:02:47
pirate Polly. Uh, anything more for pro box?
1:02:55
No, just go watch it. Pro box is good. Go back.
1:02:59
Go fucking pro box. Good. Go watch it. That's
1:03:04
those are two thoughts that got mashed up there.
1:03:09
Um, stuff coming up. Matchroom on November 15th
1:03:15
at Tottenham Hotspur Arena or Stadium, excuse
1:03:19
me, in London, England. I'm going to go to this
1:03:24
one. I'm excited. You should be excited. I'm
1:03:27
jealous. I wish I could come too. So Mikey Talon
1:03:33
versus Fezzan Shahid is starting it off at super
1:03:36
flyweight. Richard Reakpour versus Tommy Welsh
1:03:40
at heavyweight. Sam Gilly vs. Ishmael Davis at
1:03:44
Super Welter. This is one to watch. Jack Catterall
1:03:49
vs. Ekau Essaman at Welterweight. This should
1:03:52
be fun. Is that a rematch? Catterall vs. Essaman?
1:03:56
I don't think so. No. It should be fun. I like
1:04:02
Ekau Essaman. Adam Azeem vs. Kurt Scooby at Super
1:04:09
Lightweight. I'm going to be one of like five
1:04:14
people cheering for Kurt Scooby. Yup. I'm still,
1:04:21
I'm still excited. And Chris Eubank versus Connor
1:04:25
Ben in a rematch. I'm, I still haven't seen what
1:04:30
weight this is going to be at, but it's going
1:04:32
to be a 12 round fight. Oh, they haven't, they
1:04:37
haven't announced. I thought it was the. I thought
1:04:40
it was the same weight. Is it? I don't know.
1:04:44
I was under that impression. I would have thought,
1:04:48
but I haven't seen. I mean, it probably won't
1:04:56
be as good as the first one, but I hope it is.
1:05:00
I'm just here for the chance. I'm here for the
1:05:05
atmosphere. I don't really give a shit. You're
1:05:10
going to be singing Sweet Caroline at the top
1:05:12
of your lungs. No. No, I would not. Probably
1:05:19
not, but we'll see. You have to. It's part of
1:05:25
the atmosphere. It is part of the atmosphere.
1:05:27
You're right. I probably should. I think you're
1:05:33
going to have so much fun. I'm jealous. Scooby.
1:05:42
I don't know why everyone calls him Scooby. He
1:05:44
himself says his name is Scooby. Because it's
1:05:47
only got one O. Yes. I've heard interviews with
1:05:52
him and he says it's Scooby. Yeah. November 22nd.
1:06:04
We're shooting up a bit of a ways. for reasons
1:06:08
that will soon be revealed. Well, I already mentioned
1:06:11
I'm going to be at Matchroom at the Ben Eubank
1:06:15
card. So, look, I'm not going to be in the country
1:06:17
for the 22nd. So, we're not going to be doing
1:06:23
the podcast. But we're going to talk about it
1:06:26
now. Archer Betterbeev versus Dion Nicholson.
1:06:32
Who the fuck is Dion Nicholson? This is certainly
1:06:35
an opponent of all time. That's really all I
1:06:39
got. I don't really know who Dion Nicholson is
1:06:41
either. He's got a nice record, 22 -1. There
1:06:47
you go. All right. Brian Norman Jr. vs. Devin
1:06:56
Haney. The WBO welterweight title will be on
1:06:59
the line. I want Norman to spark about so bad.
1:07:04
I would love nothing more than for Brian Norman
1:07:07
to just look to Sasaki, Devin Haney. It would
1:07:16
be great. I don't think it's going to happen,
1:07:21
but it would be great. Yeah, would be nice. Haney
1:07:26
has been wobbled. I just feel like Haney's going
1:07:31
to be a little scared and box super conservative.
1:07:34
And I don't know if Norman Jr. can counteract
1:07:40
that enough to land something big if the opponent
1:07:43
doesn't want him to. I didn't think about that
1:07:48
angle. Devin Haney boxing conservatively. Kind
1:07:54
of puts a damper on my hopes and dreams here.
1:07:58
It kind of puts a damper on the excitement level.
1:08:01
Like, I'm kind of foreseeing a pretty boring
1:08:04
fight. Well, if anyone's going to stink it out,
1:08:07
it's going to be Haney. Yeah. Oh, you know what
1:08:14
won't be a stinker? Bam Rodriguez versus Fernando
1:08:18
Martinez. This is going to be so exciting. WBC
1:08:23
and WBO champ Rodriguez. And the WBA champ, Martinez.
1:08:32
Superflyweight unification. Martinez beat my
1:08:35
boy. I want Bam to go get my revenge for me.
1:08:40
Kazuto? Yeah. Yeah. The Osaka bad boy. He's so
1:08:51
cute with his kids. But... I kind of am hoping
1:08:58
for and expecting a Bam knockout. Like Bam knocking
1:09:02
out Puma. I would like for that to happen. I
1:09:10
think it will. For the Chicano kid to get the
1:09:13
dub. Moving up. The vacant WBO lightweight title.
1:09:24
Abula Mason versus Sam Noakes. Sixth and ninth
1:09:30
on BoxRec. Rip Sam Noakes. Yeah, I'm not seeing
1:09:38
this going very well for Sam Noakes. I think
1:09:43
he'll give it a good go, but I just think Mason's
1:09:49
better. Yeah, Mason too good. Yep. Oh, speaking
1:09:56
of too good, maybe. Subriel Matias versus Dalton
1:10:00
Smith. Subriel Matias is the WBC super lightweight
1:10:04
champion. Oh my goodness. I like Matias. Somebody
1:10:13
put up a good point that Liam Parrow was able
1:10:18
to tame the beast. Yeah, do you think Dalton
1:10:26
Smith is as good a boxer? As Liam Parrow? That's
1:10:31
not a very high bar to get over. Parrow's more
1:10:35
of a boxer, though. Like, movement -wise. I don't
1:10:39
know if Dalton Smith has the movement. I think
1:10:43
Matthias can walk him down. Brits can be drawn
1:10:47
into firefights. Getting into a firefight with
1:10:52
Matthias is a... Dumb idea. I do not recommend
1:10:56
this. That is highly highly inadvisable at this
1:11:00
time. But also fun. So please do. Yeah I don't
1:11:12
think Matias is the unbeatable like force of
1:11:15
nature that he was originally marketed as but
1:11:18
I just think I think he can handle Dalton Smith.
1:11:24
Yeah, I think you're right. Man, speaking of
1:11:31
Brits that can get drawn into firefights, Anthony
1:11:34
Yar challenges WBC light heavyweight champion
1:11:38
David Benavidez. This could be a banger. This,
1:11:45
I'm... Yeah. Could be. I think it really depends
1:11:53
on Anthony Yard, because Benavidez is going to
1:11:56
do what Benavidez does. It's just a matter of
1:12:00
whether Anthony Yard wants to get himself into
1:12:04
exchanges with someone who has way faster hands
1:12:08
than him. Yeah, but Yard's way more skilled.
1:12:15
You think? I think so. I don't rate Benavidez's
1:12:24
skills very high. He's a banger. He's not a skills
1:12:27
guy. But I think this could low -key turn out
1:12:34
to be really fun. But I am most excited for Bam
1:12:43
versus Puma on this card. I think that's going
1:12:45
to be the fight of the night. I'm most excited
1:12:51
to see Abdullah Mason get a crown. Yeah, I'm
1:12:56
not that invested in Mason. I am. Young American
1:13:02
prospect, so... I can see why you're not that
1:13:05
into it. I don't dislike him, I just... Yeah,
1:13:11
I get you. I'm more excited about Bam. Bam being
1:13:17
the triple crown. Yeah. Who's left? Who's the
1:13:26
IBF guy? I don't know. Let's have a look. That's
1:13:36
112? 115. Willy Baldo Garcia. Which one is he?
1:13:50
They have a terrible pitcher there. Can't see
1:13:53
shit. I know I've watched him a bunch, but Bam
1:13:59
would definitely beat him quite easily. Oh, he's
1:14:04
fighting Karadji. Really? In December? Yeah.
1:14:12
His box rec has him fighting Karadji December
1:14:17
27th. Which would be the Inoue card, right? December
1:14:24
what? 26? 26, 27? Yeah, that's the Inoue card.
1:14:31
Yeah. So, he's not going to have the belt after
1:14:36
that. Taraji's going to get his ass kicked by
1:14:41
Bam. shit. That's all we got on the docket. Unless
1:14:59
you have anything more for ring four? No. That's
1:15:04
a good card though. I am excited for it. It's
1:15:06
pretty stacked. Quite. Yeah. That's one that's
1:15:11
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1:18:23
said, parting words. It's the CFL playoffs. My
1:18:31
Rough Riders are playing as we speak, actually.
1:18:37
And it looks like they're winning. So I'm happy.
1:18:44
I'm also jealous of your trip. I'm super jealous.
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Yeah, so my parting words is this is the last
1:18:51
episode of Boxing Before Dark for the rest of
1:18:57
November. We'll not be back before then. I'm
1:19:01
going to be out of the country. Going to go get
1:19:05
some Brit stoppages. Get myself pulled out of
1:19:08
the fight too early. More than once. Nah, jokes,
1:19:13
jokes. But yeah, this is the last episode of
1:19:16
Boxing Before Dark and we'll be back in December
1:19:19
because there's a lot of fights that are coming
1:19:22
up in December and a lot of fights that will
1:19:25
be having to recap like we just talked about.
1:19:29
Yeah. Are you going to be tweeting during your
1:19:33
trip? I might be. I'll be Instagramming during
1:19:39
my trip. Nice. Okay. If nothing else. I should
1:19:44
post on everything. But, like, does anybody really
1:19:51
want to see me going to fucking, like, museums
1:19:53
and shit? Uh -uh. I do, but we're friends. Yeah,
1:19:57
so it's a little different. Oh, well, we'll see.
1:20:02
We'll see what goes up on the socials. You do
1:20:06
have to go for a Chinese. Yeah, that was the
1:20:09
plan. Liverpool has one of the oldest Chinese
1:20:14
districts in all of Europe. But that's like probably
1:20:19
real Chinese food. I mean like Johnny Fisher
1:20:21
style Chinese. Oh, Big John Bosch. Yeah. Yeah,
1:20:26
yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I think that's what I'm
1:20:29
going to do. I'll try to do that at one point.
1:20:32
Turns out my hotel in London is like a 20 -minute
1:20:40
walk from Coco's. I am beyond fucking thrilled.
1:20:48
Excellent. I'm going to have it like every day,
1:20:53
twice a day while I'm there. Could I go have
1:20:58
English food? Sure, I could. But I have... I
1:21:02
got homies all around. I'm going to be touring
1:21:06
the country. So they'll hook me up with that.
1:21:11
I got to get home as well as I can. Fair enough.
1:21:15
I'm actually super excited. My work friend found
1:21:18
actual leeks in a grocery store up in Niigata.
1:21:22
Whoa. And I have been missing chicken leek pie
1:21:25
so badly. And I can't make a pie, but I can make
1:21:29
the filling and eat it like stew. And I'm so
1:21:31
excited. Well, if that's it, then that's it for
1:21:41
this edition of Boxing Before Dark. My battery
1:21:44
is getting low. And it is getting dark. We'll
1:21:50
see you in December. We'll see you in December.