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Israel, Ukraine & TikTok Bill in Depth: The Good, the Bad & the Ugly · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with
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  Speaker 2: you and Center. With overwhelming support from the Senate, this
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  Speaker 2: foreign aid package has passed that obviously is the center
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  Speaker 2: of the world right now for not only in this
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  Speaker 2: country people wondering what was going to happen, but obviously
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  Speaker 2: these nations around the world in quitting Israel.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. It is a major foreign aid
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  Speaker 3: bill that just passed the Senate and it is now
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  Speaker 3: headed to President Biden's desk. We're going to break it down.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to get into the good, the bad, and
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  Speaker 3: the ugly about what was in it and what's going
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  Speaker 3: to happen next. We're also going to talk about what
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  Speaker 3: continues to happen on college campuses, the anti semitism, it
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  Speaker 3: keeps getting worse, and we're going to talk about the
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  Speaker 3: Biden Whitehouse's pathetic response to these instances of violence and
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  Speaker 3: anti Semitism that sadly the radicals and his party support.
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  Speaker 2: and I know you're going to be excited about this. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you got to get and this is headlines now. National
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  Speaker 2: Inquirer has come out in the court case in New
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  Speaker 2: York and admitted they made up the story center about
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  Speaker 2: your father. Yes, Ted Cruz's father linked to the Jaska assassination.
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  Speaker 2: They're admitting they made it all up. I want everybody
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  Speaker 2: to hear from you first on that.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Look, just because the National Inquirer made up that my
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  Speaker 3: father played a part in killing Kennedy doesn't mean that
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  Speaker 3: he didn't secretly play a part in killing Kennedy. I'm
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  Speaker 3: just saying that they haven't proven a nation negative. Although
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  Speaker 3: they did admit they doctored the photograph and like like
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  Speaker 3: basically mashed two photos to create literally the very embodiment
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  Speaker 3: of fake news. And I got to say, my favorite
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  Speaker 3: response on this whole issue was something Marco Rubio said
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  Speaker 3: at a set at Launch shortly after this idiotic story broke,
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  Speaker 3: where Marco stood up and he said, look, I need
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  Speaker 3: all of you all to know that I know for
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  Speaker 3: a fact this story about.
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  Speaker 1: Ted's dad is a lie.
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  Speaker 3: And and Marco's explanation he said it has to be
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  Speaker 3: a lie because if a Cuban had done that, he
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  Speaker 3: would have told everybody. Yeah, and so I saw. I
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  Speaker 1: I love this.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you framed this for your father because it's
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  Speaker 2: It is official, this inquire made up the story about
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  Speaker 2: your father.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There is a chance, but they haven't confirmed that yet,
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  Speaker 1: I love it all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Let's get into this vote in Washington and explain
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  Speaker 2: for everyone listening.
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  Speaker 1: This came out of the House. It was a big fight.
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  Speaker 2: There is a very divided, i think conservative mindset on this.
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  Speaker 2: I have a lot of friends that are very upset
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  Speaker 2: about this. I have others that say it's important that
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  Speaker 2: we fund Israel and other things. This then came to
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  Speaker 2: the Senate. Walk us through the mindset of of not
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  Speaker 2: only you, but also other Republicans that are saying this
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  Speaker 2: is something that need to get done and that's why
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  Speaker 2: we passed it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, listen, this is a bill number one. The House
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  Speaker 3: struggled mightily to vote out. It was a huge battle.
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  Speaker 3: There were lots of pieces there that they agonized on
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  Speaker 3: and ultimately voted it out before the Senate. Listen, I
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  Speaker 3: struggled with this vote. I struggled with this vote as
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  Speaker 3: much as any vote I've ever cast in the Senate.
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  Speaker 3: And the reason is there are elements in this bill
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  Speaker 3: that I very strongly support, and there are elements in
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  Speaker 3: this bill that I really dislike. And sometimes you have
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  Speaker 3: legislation that combines good and bad and you've got a way, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: does the bad outweigh the good? And in this case,
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  Speaker 3: I found a very difficult decision. I spent hours and
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  Speaker 3: hours thinking through the pros and cons and what the
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  Speaker 3: right principled approach was. Let me tell you what's good
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  Speaker 3: about this bill. The biggest thing that is good and
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  Speaker 3: important about this bill is it finally provides emergency military
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  Speaker 3: aid to Israel. Israel is in the middle of a war.
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  Speaker 3: It has been an a war since October sixth, the
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  Speaker 3: horrific terrorist attack that occurred. It has been battling Hamon
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  Speaker 3: and Gaza, battling Hamas while the Biden administration has been
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  Speaker 3: undercutting it over and over and over again and pressing
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  Speaker 3: the government of Israel to stop killing Hamas terrorists. It's
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  Speaker 3: also been the subject of a massive attack from Iran,
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  Speaker 3: over three hundred drones and missiles, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles.
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  Speaker 3: Iran has been waging war against Israel, and so I
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  Speaker 3: think it's critically critically important that we provide military aid
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  Speaker 3: to Israel now and that's going to happen now. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm very glad of that that aid is finally going
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  Speaker 3: to go. Let me be clear, though, this military aid
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  Speaker 3: to Israel should have gone six months ago. It should
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  Speaker 3: have gone right after October seventh, It should have gone
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  Speaker 3: when this war started. And you'll recall back in November,
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  Speaker 3: I and several other Senators forced a vote on the
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  Speaker 3: Senate floor we took over the Senate from Chuck Schumer.
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  Speaker 3: We used a rare procedural technique called a rogue cloture
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  Speaker 3: petition should to force a vote on a standalone Israel
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  Speaker 3: emergency military aid bill, and every single Democrat, all of them,
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  Speaker 3: voted no. And the only reason this military funding didn't
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  Speaker 3: go six months ago is because the Democrats obstructed it
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  Speaker 3: each and every day since then. And so I'm glad
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  Speaker 3: finally that military aid is going to Israel. But it
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  Speaker 3: should have gone last month, it should have gone the
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  Speaker 3: month before, it should have gone all the way back
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  Speaker 3: six months ago, and it's the Democrat's fault it didn't.
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  Speaker 2: So let's talk about some of the other things that
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  Speaker 2: were in this bill as well, and explain what all
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  Speaker 2: is in this big, big kind of conglomerate here.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you what else is good in
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  Speaker 3: the bill. So number one, the military aid to Israel.
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  Speaker 3: Number two, this bill includes the Houses bill to force
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  Speaker 3: the Chinese Communist Party to give up control of TikTok
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  Speaker 3: in the United States. That's something also that I strongly support.
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  Speaker 3: I think it is very important for national security. The
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  Speaker 3: Chinese Communist Party uses TikTok. It has the capacity for
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  Speaker 3: number one espionage and surveillance of every American and I
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  Speaker 3: think that is very dangerous. Number Two, the Chinese Communist
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  Speaker 3: Party uses this to push propaganda, particularly to our young people.
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  Speaker 3: And and so this bill forces the CCP to divest
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  Speaker 3: from TikTok. That's another very good thing in this bill. Thirdly,
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  Speaker 3: this bill also includes eight billion dollars in funding for
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  Speaker 3: Taiwan to defend itself against aggression from China. And and
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  Speaker 3: and listen, I have long long made clear that that
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  Speaker 3: that that that China I believe represents the most significant
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  Speaker 3: long term geopolitical threat to the United States, and Taiwan
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  Speaker 3: is on the front lines of China's global global aggression.
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  Speaker 3: And so I think it is critically important that that
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  Speaker 3: that we continue standing with the people of Taiwan. So
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  Speaker 3: those are three really good things of the bill.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go back to TikTok for a second and explain
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  Speaker 2: that when will this kick in the metrics of it,
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  Speaker 2: how this will work. And I want to go back
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  Speaker 2: to and compare this also on a story we've done before.
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  Speaker 2: TikTok has had like forty to one stories supporting the
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  Speaker 2: Palestinian slash Hamas over Israel. Clearly that has had a
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  Speaker 2: major impact on younger people are who are actually against Israel.
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  Speaker 2: And we've seen this on the college campuses, and this
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  Speaker 2: is being used is a mind war machine to clearly
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  Speaker 2: influence and change public opinion on people like Jewish people,
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  Speaker 2: the Israeli government, and even to make people sympathetic towards terrorists.
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  Speaker 2: That's what China's been doing. And this is just in
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  Speaker 2: real time when it comes to Israel. Yeah, no, that's
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  Speaker 2: exactly right that TikTok. The CCP uses TikTok to push
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  Speaker 2: pro Hamas propag and to undermine Israel, to push anti
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  Speaker 2: American propaganda, including things like like trending Osama bin Laden
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  Speaker 2: speaking out on jihad and against against America, and so
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  Speaker 2: removing the ability of the Chinese Communist party to have
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  Speaker 2: control over that that that's really important. How long will
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  Speaker 2: this take then for the divistion and and for truly
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  Speaker 2: to be a separation where Chinese isn't dictating what happens
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  Speaker 2: on the platform? Is this going to be immediate before
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  Speaker 2: the election or in reality, is it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: after the election?
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  Speaker 3: Well, one of the prices that the Democrats insisted upon
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  Speaker 3: to pass this was that that it be delayed till
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  Speaker 3: after the election, So it will be after theazing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know that that that's how the Democrats approached it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because they wanted to make sure that they had
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  Speaker 2: the advantage using TikTok all the way up and through
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  Speaker 2: the election.
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  Speaker 3: Those are are the Democrats we have.
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  Speaker 1: So you look at this bill and you talk also about.
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  Speaker 2: Taiwanese and the allies and then be able to defend themselves.
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  Speaker 2: There was some criticism that this wasn't enough money for
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  Speaker 2: them to actually defend themselves against China. Can you can
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  Speaker 2: you explain why this amount of money was chosen and
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  Speaker 2: why you think this is adequate this moment.
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  Speaker 3: Look, eight billion dollars is a significant amount of military aid,
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  Speaker 3: and it's designed to help help Taiwan be more resilient,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in in military defense theory, the idea obviously,
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  Speaker 3: the Taiwanese army is not sufficient to defeat the Chinese army.
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  Speaker 3: China is a much more massive country with a much
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  Speaker 3: larger military. But the idea is to make Taiwan, the
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  Speaker 3: phrase that is often used as a porcupine, make Taiwan
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  Speaker 3: difficult to invade, to deter China from doing so. And
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  Speaker 3: so that's really what the military aid is focused on doing,
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  Speaker 3: is helping Taiwan be more resistant to an amphibious military
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  Speaker 3: assault so that China doesn't doesn't engage in war. And
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  Speaker 3: listen that that is often the smartest way to approach
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  Speaker 3: national security is to engage in deterrence so you don't
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  Speaker 3: have to engage in war. And that that that's exactly
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  Speaker 3: what this is trying to do with China and Taiwan.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about how what was in the bill that
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  Speaker 2: was frustrating for you, that upsets you, that that is irritating.
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  Speaker 2: The reality is I'd love that if we could just
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  Speaker 2: get only what we want. There are compromises that have
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  Speaker 2: to be made. There's Democrats who are the majority in
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  Speaker 2: the Senate, and we have a very slim majority. Now
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  Speaker 2: in the House Republicans, you have a president who's a Democrat.
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  Speaker 2: So so what in here is frustrating that you that
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  Speaker 2: you say, hey, yeah, I'm not okay with this, but
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  Speaker 2: this is the reality of how this went down.
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  Speaker 3: Well, there were several other other elements in the bill
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  Speaker 3: that that in total, were too problematic for me to
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  Speaker 3: support the full package. First of all, the bill spends
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  Speaker 3: over nine billion dollars on so called humanitarian aid, much
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  Speaker 3: of which goes to Gaza, which is controlled by Hamas.
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  Speaker 3: And we have seen under Joe Biden this pattern over
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  Speaker 3: and over again of their sending millions and millions of
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  Speaker 3: dollars to Gaza, only for it to be diverted by Hamas,
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  Speaker 3: only for it to be used for terrorism. And and
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  Speaker 3: this this bill follows that pattern. It does not it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't learn from the failures of the Biden administration, and
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  Speaker 3: it keeps sending money that will be used ultimately against
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  Speaker 3: America and against our allies.
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  Speaker 2: When you see this happen and the way it came
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  Speaker 2: out of the Senate, for conservatives that are listening that
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  Speaker 2: are just frustrated because they feel like we're sending too
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  Speaker 2: much money overseas, We're not securing our southern border, and
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  Speaker 2: we're putting other countries ahead of our interests. What is
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  Speaker 2: your message to them, because that's an important one right now.
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  Speaker 3: Well, look, there are aspects when it comes to military aid,
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  Speaker 3: particularly for Israel and Taiwan. We are doing that because
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  Speaker 3: that is in America's interest, that that that the enemies
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  Speaker 3: of Israel are the enemies of America, and with Israel
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  Speaker 3: advances America's national security interests. And by the way, we
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  Speaker 3: get enormous military benefits from our alliance with Israel, including
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  Speaker 3: benefits from the Masad intelligence benefits that the people they
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  Speaker 3: are fighting. Listen, Iran, there is a reason the Iotolin
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  Speaker 3: Iran chance death to America and death to Israel. The
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  Speaker 3: Iotola also refers to Israel as the little Satan and
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  Speaker 3: America as the Great Satan. And so helping Israel prevail
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  Speaker 3: benefits American national security. It keeps us safer. The same
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  Speaker 3: is true with Taiwan, that deterring China. Listen, if China,
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  Speaker 3: God forbid, were to invade Taiwan, that would be an
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  Speaker 3: enormous problem for US national security interest for a lot
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  Speaker 3: of reasons. But let me just focus on one, which
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  Speaker 3: is advanced semiconductors. Right now, we manufacture very few, A
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  Speaker 3: very small percentage of advanced semiconductors are manufactured in the
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  Speaker 3: United States. The over whelming majorities manufactured overseas, primarily in
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  Speaker 3: China and Taiwan. And if China were to invade Taiwan,
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  Speaker 3: it would give the Chinese Communist Party the ability to
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  Speaker 3: have the American economy and the American military in a stranglehold.
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  Speaker 3: You look at virtually everything we use in today's modern life,
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  Speaker 3: it involves semiconductors and advanced semiconductors.
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  Speaker 1: That's true for your phone.
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  Speaker 3: That's true for your car or truck, that that that's
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  Speaker 3: true for just about every appliance you have in your home.
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  Speaker 3: That that's true for just about every serious piece of
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  Speaker 3: military equipment we have, whether it's every tank or every
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  Speaker 3: fighter jet, or every ship or or every computer. We
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  Speaker 3: are massively dependent on advanced semiconductors. It's one of the
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  Speaker 3: reasons I have been so vigorous in fighting to bring
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  Speaker 3: semiconductor manufacturing back to the United States, back to Texas.
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  Speaker 3: It's one of the reasons why I co authored legislation
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  Speaker 3: to streamline the ronmental permitting for building new semiconductor fabs,
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  Speaker 3: including massive ones that are going into Texas. My legislation,
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  Speaker 3: which I authored with Mark Kelly, Democrat from Arizona, the
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  Speaker 3: Kelly Cruise Bill, passed the Senate one hundred to nothing.
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  Speaker 3: We're working to get it through the House. But in
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  Speaker 3: the interim, until this passes into law, until we build
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  Speaker 3: up semiconductor manufacturing capacity in the United States, America is
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  Speaker 3: incredibly vulnerable and so deterring Chinese aggression in Taiwan is
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  Speaker 3: all about protecting America's national security interests.
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  Speaker 2: save yourself, Like I said, on average a charge twenty
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  Speaker 2: five to thirty percent less than most major gold and
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  Speaker 2: silver firms. You've heard of one eight hundred sixty five
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  Speaker 2: usa dot com, slash vertict center. I know there was
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: a couple other problems in this bill that you also
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: wanted to highlight.
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  Speaker 1: What are those?
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  Speaker 3: Well, they're big problems. Number two. Uh, this bill has
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: three point four billion dollars for quote, migration and refugee
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: assistance and and and that's the pocket of money the
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Biden administration has used to pour cash into the NGOs
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: that are assisting with illegal immigration at our southern border.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: And so this gives them billions more to keep funneling
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: into these organizations that that that that are trafficking people
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: illegally into this country and helping traffickers bring people illegally
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: into the country. I can't support that.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: That's something that is obviously very frustrating. And this is
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: what I think so many conservatives have been hearing about,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: and they're frustrated because why is it that this always happens?
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Well, and listen that that that leads to the third
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: and the single biggest problem with this bill is it
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  Speaker 3: does nothing, zero, nada to secure our southern border. It
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: doesn't It doesn't address the crisis, and it is an
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: existential crisis. We are seeing a full on invasion. And
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: and just a few months ago Republicans all stood united
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: and said we are going to use this Ukraine bill
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: as leverage to force the Demo Crats to do something
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: on our southern border. And all of us initially stood
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: united on that. Listen, I still believe that. I still
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: believe and the Democrats they care passionately about this Ukraine
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Aid bill. Listen, we saw in the House of Representatives.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: We saw House Democrats ridiculously waving Ukrainian flags on the
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: floor of the House. It was a pitiful spectacle. And
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: as an aside, can you imagine those Democrats ever ever
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: showing the same joy waving an American flag. It's hard
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: to imagine. But no, they were happy to jump up
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: and down and wave Ukrainian flags on the House floor.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: It's clear they care passionately about that. And so I
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: believe we should have stuck to our guns and said, Okay,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: if you want additional money for Ukraine, let's take serious
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: steps to secure the border. Not the bogus Chuck Schumer
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: bill that would have made the problem worse and would
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: have put catch and release into law, and what a
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: normalize two million ellgoimmigrants a year, but serious legislation to
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: secure the border. Once again, in front of the Senate,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: I introduced HR two as an amendment to the bill.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: And to be clear, if they had attached HR two
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: strong border security to this bill, I would have voted yes.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: But they didn't, and and ultimately the House was not
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: able to move it out with border security included. And
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: for me, as a Senator representing the great State of Texas,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: I can't sit by while our state and our country
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: is invaded and allow this moment to go by. I
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: can't support this bill without border security. I can't allocate
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: funds to secure Ukraine's border before we secure our own border.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: And that is the number one reason that I had
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: to vote no. It is the crisis we have at
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: home is too grave to allow this bill to move
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: at least with my support, without fixing the problem here
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: at home.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned the open border.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: House Committee on Homeland Security found that illegal aliens are
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: costing US an estimated four hundred fifty one billion dollars
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: per year, the majority of that going to healthcare for
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: illegal immigrants.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: As crime as skyrocketing.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Now our hospitals are being filled with illegals who can't pay,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: and that is what they found. And yet we're sending money,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: like you said, to secure another country's border.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Well, and it's the Democrats have gone all in. They
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: have decided that they are the open border party, that
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: they are willing to give up anything, including apparently that
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: we're willing to give up Ukraine aid in order to
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: keep the open borders. I think we should have held
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: the line and use this to force real border security,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: not not the fake, fake kind that Chuck Schumer was
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: trying to get attached to this.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I want to move also to another major issue center,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: and that is we've been covering anti semitism on college
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: campuses and exposing what's been happening. But now we're getting
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: to see the White House, specifically the President of the
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: United States of America is just pathetic and that word
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: doesn't seem strong enough, but a pathetic response to anti
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: semitism on college campuses. I want to play this for
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: you from a reporter to the president of the United
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: States of America and get your reaction to it.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Listen to this and.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: The anti submitted protests on college campuses.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: I condemn that another protests.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: That's why I've set up a full gam to do
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: with that.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: I also condemn those who don't understand what's going on
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: with the Palestinians and how they dreaming.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: And then Columbia University president resigned. I didn't know that.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I'll not have to find out more time.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I love that they asked should she resign because I
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: didn't know that. I'll have to find out more about that.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: But he condemns people that are anti Semitic, and then says,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I also condemned those that don't know about the Palestinians, Like,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: what in the hell is the president doing here?
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Sir?
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Well, look, he said he didn't know that, and I
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: actually believe that's some of the most honest words that
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: he said. I think he has no idea what's going on.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: He's not aware of what's going on, and in particular,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: he's professing ignorance as to what's happening at Columbia, what's
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: happening at Yale, And it is utterly disgraceful. But you
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: know who's not ignorant. I mean, I agree he's oblivious,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: But who's not ignorant? Or the other Democrats who are
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: supporting this And I want you to listen to So
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: there was an event, a Climate Core event where AOC
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: was speaking right next to Joe Biden, and he was
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: right there, and AOC had something to say on this
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: that I want everyone, everyone to listen and hear. Here's
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: AOC addressing Columbia Yale.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: It is especially important that we remember the power of
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: young people shaping this country to day of all days,
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: as we once again witness the leadership of those peaceful
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: student led protests on campus. It's like Columbia, Yale, Berkeley and.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Many others really, because a group of Yale student center
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: formed a human chain to block a Jewish student from
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: entering the university yesterday. And if you know history, this
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: was a chilling act of anti Semitism that echoed nineteen
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: thirty nine when Nazis blocked Jewish students are entering Vienna
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: University simply because they were Jews.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Now that's absolutely right. And you also had a Jewish
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: student at Yale who was poked in the eye with
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: a flag and had to seek medical treatment because of that.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: And to say when you have threats of murder and
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: violence and death, when you have it as you had
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: it at Columbia, a student saying that Hamas should murder
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: the Jews wish students on that campus. That is not peaceful.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Threats of violence and calling from the murder of your
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: former students is not remotely peaceful. But understand, AOC, this
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: is a sitting member of Congress. She's singling out Columbia Yale.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: She's praising what's happening at Columbia Yale. Understand she supports
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: this vicious anti semitism. And there is Joe Biden happily
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: sitting there. In fact, he said at the same event
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: that he's learned that when AOC listened and it speaks,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: you got to listen to her. Well, you know that
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: that is Unfortunately, today's Democrat Party, which is the White House,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: is utterly tepid, unwilling to condemn specifically what is happening
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: at Columbia and Yale, and the radicals in their party
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: explicitly endorse it and celebrate it.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: You mentioned the radicals of the Democratic Party. You and
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I have said this for a long time. When they
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: tell you what they've leave in, believe them. I'll give
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: you example of this. A group of Columbia University professors
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: actually held a rally Monday. These are the professors who
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: are indoctrinating the kids to hate Jews and hate Israel.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: They held a rally to express solidarity solidarity with the
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: anti Semitic students that had been suspended for holding unauthorized
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: protests on campus. And not only that, but when you
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: go back and look at what these leaders these universities believe,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: whether it's Clutting Gay, who we've exposed on the show
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: multiple times, but at an event just two months after
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: nine to eleven, Colombia University's current president remarked, and this
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: was two months after nine to eleven, that terrorism is
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: a quote form of protesting.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: When they tell you who they are, believe them. Listen
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: to this.
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  Speaker 4: So it's not you'll always have individuals who will have
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: extreme views. But what's really troubling in the region is
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: that there's actually quite a broad base of society which
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: has some sympathy for the terrorists. Not so much because
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: they approve of their methods, but it's a form of
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: protesting against a system which is not delivering for them
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: on the economic or the political front.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's no wonder that this university is totally
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: just lost to its mind and we're watching this anti semitism.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: If that's what you're saying in public two months after
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: nine to eleven, then imagine how many children you've been
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: able to indoctrinate college students to believe that the Jews
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: are Israel and that you should feel sympathy for Hamas
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: has Isis al Kaeda.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: The list goes on and on.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Well, and when she says there's a broad base of
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: society that has sympathy for these terrorists, she's revealing a
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: lot about the world in which she lives, about Ivy
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: League universities, about our elite universities, about our academic system,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: about the left. Everyone she associates with falls into that
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: crowd when they look at the terrorists and understand, we're
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: not talking about terrorists and the abstract. We're talking about
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Hamas and what they did on October seventh, murdering twelve
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: hundred Israelis, murdering some thirty Americans, raping women and little girls,
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: committing atrocities that the world has not seen since the Nazis,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: and in today's leftist academy, using the President of Columbia's
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: own word, they have some sympathy for that. No, there
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: is no sympathy. Terrorism is not a form of protest.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Terrorism is a horrific form of violence that targets civilians,
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: that targets women and children, that commits murder and act
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: of cruelty. And that's exactly what Hamas did, and it's
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: what It's the reason these college campuses are allowing these
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: anti Semitic protests to go on, these threats against Jewish
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: students to go on. It's the reason Jewish students are
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: being advised by the Orthodo Rabbi at Columbia to stay
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: home because Columbia will not protect your physical safety. And
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: the reason is the President of Columbia, the administrators of Columbia.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: They explicitly side with the radicals and with the terrorists.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: And it is shameful and it's sick.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Finally, on this, we're going to do a deep dive
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: about the dark money that is clearly backing and orchestrating
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: these not only events, but the shutting down of roads
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: and bridges and supporting what's happening on these college campuses
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: being anti Semitic. But there is one caveat, and this
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: should be talked about it. And like I said, we're
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: going to give you a lot more on this in
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: another episode. But we've now found out that the NFL,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: the National Football League, funded a left wing group bailing
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: out anti Israel bridge blockers. And this is again how
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: the left just holds these companies and these organization hostage,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: like you better give us some money.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: We need somebody to bail out some people, and they
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: just do it well.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: And look, we we talked about in the wake of
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: October seventh, how how black lives matter, how the Chicago
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: chapter put out a tweet praising Hama, saying we stand
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: with Palestine and and and having a a picture of
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: a paraglider. Remember it was a paragliders that came in
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: that the Hamas terrorists used to murder young people in Israel,
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: and and and the cultural Marxist they support each other,
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: and and and and we're seeing that. Look on Columbia,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: it's not just the students that are facing threats of violence,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: it's the faculty too. So a Columbia professor, Shi David
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: I wanted to go, and we talked about this on
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: on on Monday's pod, that he intended to go and
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: and be right among these protesters and stand up for Israel.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: And what Columbia did. They revoked his past to campus.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: They they zeroed out his access and blocked him. This
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: is the the administration of Columbia. They decided between a
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: professor on their faculty who happened to be Jewish or
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: the anti Semitic protesters who are threatening violence, that the
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: problem was the professor who dared to be Jewish.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: One of the things that this professor, Davidai, tweeted out.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: He said, quote to all the journalists, I promise I
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: will try to get back to each and every one
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: of you. In the meantime, I want you to consider this.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: To the best of my knowledge, the last time that
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: a professor was denied access to their own university for
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: being Jewish was Nazi Germany. Well, actually that's not accurate,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: because we covered on this podcast how USC did that
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: to a USC professor where they ordered him to stay
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: at home and teach from home for precisely the same reason,
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: because anti Israel protesters were threatening violence, and they decided
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: not to protect him but instead to stand with the protesters.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to talk more about this dark money.
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