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ANOTHER Massive Somali Fraud in Ohio plus Tucker Descends into Madness · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict with Center Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson
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  Speaker 1: with you. It's nice to have you with us on
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  Speaker 1: the show, and we've got a big one for you,
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  Speaker 1: including more Somali fraud reported in a Republican state, and
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  Speaker 1: it is massive.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I gotta say, the pattern we're seeing a fraud
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  Speaker 2: of people stealing from the federal taxpayers, stealing from you
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  Speaker 2: is staggering. We saw first of all Minneapolis, Minnesota Samali
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  Speaker 2: fraudsters stealing over nine billion dollars from taxpayers. But the
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  Speaker 2: problem is not limited to Minnesota. We now have a
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  Speaker 2: breaking blockbuster story from Daily Wire about Ohio the very
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  Speaker 2: same patterns. Somali fraudsters engaged in fake home health companies
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  Speaker 2: stealing tens of millions of dollars from the taxpayers. This
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  Speaker 2: is a pattern that I think exists across the country.
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  Speaker 2: It's in the big Blue states, it's in California, it's
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  Speaker 2: in New York, it's in Illinois, but it may well
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  Speaker 2: be in all fifty states. We're going to break it
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  Speaker 2: down and reveal the shocking facts of the theft that
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  Speaker 2: is going on in broad daylight. We're also going to
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  Speaker 2: talk about the continued descent of Tucker Carlson into the
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  Speaker 2: spiral of madness, and I don't say that word lightly.
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  Speaker 2: He did an interview with The New York Times where
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  Speaker 2: he gets whackier and whackier. He attacks me over and
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  Speaker 2: over and over again. Apparently I am living rent free
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  Speaker 2: in the poor guy's brain. And he also is confronted
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  Speaker 2: by the fact that he's gone on air and he
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  Speaker 2: is accused Donald J. Trump of being the Antichrist. Now,
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  Speaker 2: when The New York Times confronted him about that, he said,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't say that. I never say that. So they
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  Speaker 2: played him the clip of him saying exactly that, and
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  Speaker 2: he just lied and denied it. And I got to say,
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is incredible.
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  Speaker 1: Just since we started this show, and we have this
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  Speaker 1: Somali fraud that we're going to talk about in Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a new article that just came out. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just gonna read the headline because it just shows how
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  Speaker 1: fast the fraud is being exposed. Somali's reportedly filled an
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  Speaker 1: Ohio strip mall with potential fraudulent childcare centers. This coming
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  Speaker 1: from the AB six investigators there in Columbus, saying several
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  Speaker 1: Somali owned daycare facilities, including a cluster located strip mall,
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  Speaker 1: which by the way, don't exist, they've now been uncovered.
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  Speaker 1: And then that on top of another local station that
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  Speaker 1: just exposed a massive trucking company fraud. All of these
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  Speaker 1: trucking companies like dozens and dozens, all at the same
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  Speaker 1: exact address in these suites. So now we've got new
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  Speaker 1: fraud on top of fraud, on top of the fraud
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about on this show today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a stunning pattern, and it's clear the fraudsters
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  Speaker 2: believe they would never face any scrutiny, that no politician
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  Speaker 2: would hold them to account, that no prosecutor would hold
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  Speaker 2: them to account, that nobody in the media would ever
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  Speaker 2: report as they were stealing millions and millions of dollars
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  Speaker 2: from the taxpayers. And I got to say that tide
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  Speaker 2: is starting to turn that there's a blockbuster story of
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  Speaker 2: the Daily Wire by Luke Rosiak, who is the same
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  Speaker 2: lawyer who broke the Loudon County story that in Virginia
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  Speaker 2: that ended up electing Glenn Younkin as the governor of Virginia.
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  Speaker 2: So so he's demonstrated that he can do real, real
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  Speaker 2: news work in a way that CNN, ABC, NBC they
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  Speaker 2: don't do anymore. But the story. I want to read
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  Speaker 2: a good chunk of this story because if you haven't
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  Speaker 2: read it, you need to know what's in it. Its
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  Speaker 2: entitled Daily Wire Investigation reveals one of the biggest government
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  Speaker 2: waste scandals hiding in plain sight. I've been investigating federal
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  Speaker 2: waste and fraud for twenty years. This is the biggest
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  Speaker 2: scandal I've ever found Columbus, Ohio. Just before the Department
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  Speaker 2: of Government Efficiency closed its doors, it made a quiet
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  Speaker 2: move that may end up being its most lasting impact
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  Speaker 2: on the federal deficit. DOGE published a massive trove of
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  Speaker 2: data in February that, for the first time, let the
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  Speaker 2: public see what companies are billing Medicaid for For decades,
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  Speaker 2: the payouts have been shrouded in secrecy. One of the
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  Speaker 2: largest government programs was a black box. I've spent the
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  Speaker 2: past two months diving into the numbers. What I found
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  Speaker 2: was the most blatant waste of federal dollars that I
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  Speaker 2: have encountered in my two decades as an investigative reporter.
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  Speaker 2: I've set my sites in Ohio, which, like Minnesota, has
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  Speaker 2: been granted waivers to expand Medicaid well beyond its original purpose.
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  Speaker 2: Under the guise of Healthcare, Ohio pays people to go
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  Speaker 2: to Medicaid beneficiaries homes to perform quote homemaking and quote
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  Speaker 2: chores like cooking and cleaning. The people performing these quote
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  Speaker 2: personal services tasks don't even have to be healthcare workers,
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  Speaker 2: and in many cases are actually relatives of the Medicaid recipient.
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  Speaker 2: According to a Daily Wired data analysis, Ohio spent a
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  Speaker 2: billion dollars billion with a BEE on home healthcare in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, the last year for which data is available.
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  Speaker 2: Since the services are performed inside private residences, there's no
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  Speaker 2: way to know whether the workers went at all or
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  Speaker 2: what they're actually doing in exchange for taxpayer funds. A
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  Speaker 2: number of small black boxes. Inside a black box, multiple
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  Speaker 2: signs said the service provided and build of the government
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  Speaker 2: was sometimes just quote companionship and conversation. So understand, you
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  Speaker 2: can talk to your relatives. You can hang out with
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  Speaker 2: your relatives and talk to them, and the federal government
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  Speaker 2: will pay you just for talking to Grandpa.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you listen to that story and it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: even make sense until you understand that that's exactly what
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  Speaker 1: they're doing. They're like, hey, we're gonna pay you to
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  Speaker 1: hang out, not take care, hang out with a relative.
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  Speaker 1: They're also, how would they get all the patients for
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  Speaker 1: the fraud to work? You put it on a billboard, right,
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  Speaker 1: you put up billboards. You recruit family members to defraud
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  Speaker 1: the government by hanging out and spending time with your
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  Speaker 1: own mom or dad or aunt or uncle or brother
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  Speaker 1: or sister, and we will pay you to do that.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, it's just if that's not the definition
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  Speaker 1: of fraud, I don't know what is.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it gets worse as people have realized the United
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  Speaker 2: States government will pay them to hang out with their
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  Speaker 2: own families. There it is. Northeast Columbus has seen its
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  Speaker 2: economy replaced by businesses that bill medicaid and Columbus, a
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  Speaker 2: city with the second largest Somali population in the country.
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  Speaker 2: Did you know that Columbus, Ohio?
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  Speaker 3: No, I did not, And that's shocking. But now it
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  Speaker 3: explains why the fraud's so high.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Columbus has become, on the surface, the most unhealthy
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  Speaker 2: city on the planet.
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  Speaker 1: Now to be clear what we mean by that, because
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  Speaker 1: like using the past here on healthy city, you usually
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  Speaker 1: hear that's like a say that's overweight where the people
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  Speaker 1: aren't active.
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  Speaker 2: Here, they're just flooding cash.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like this is the unhealthy as in how much
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  Speaker 1: money is it taking to take care of people through medicare.
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  Speaker 1: That is what's making the most unhealthy city in America.
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  Speaker 1: It's not that it's like overweight population, food, lizards and
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  Speaker 1: things like that. This is how bad the fraud is.
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  Speaker 2: Well, here's what one person said. Quote, well, if the
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  Speaker 2: government is going to pay you to do it, one
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  Speaker 2: home health operator told me, people see it as lucrative,
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  Speaker 2: so they just jump on it. The new welfare queens
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  Speaker 2: aren't the recipients whose low incomes qualify them for poverty programs.
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  Speaker 2: They're the companies getting rich off them. Now, listen to
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  Speaker 2: these companies driving down Cleveland Avenue in less than forty seconds.
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  Speaker 2: You come across endless home health companies Capital home Health,
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  Speaker 2: Continental home Health, Dynamic Home Healthcare, Ohio Senior Home Healthcare.
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  Speaker 2: Entire buildings throughout the city are filled entirely with what
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  Speaker 2: appeared to be identical businesses. The enormous complex pictured below
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  Speaker 2: and there's a picture in the article, is six one six'
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  Speaker 2: One Bush. Boulevard its lack of windows would be a
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  Speaker 2: problem for most office. Buildings there is almost no one
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  Speaker 2: in this. One what's inside is ninety four ninety four
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  Speaker 2: different companies signed up to Bill, medicaid each with a tiny,
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  Speaker 2: office often marked with a sheet of paper proclaiming some
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  Speaker 2: generic company name ending in Home HEALTH. Llc and sometimes
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  Speaker 2: this is particularly, funny another piece of paper claiming the
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  Speaker 2: employees had just stepped out for a. Break mind, you
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  Speaker 2: they've all stepped out for a break and then never come.
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  Speaker 2: Back this building alone build taxpayers sixty six million dollars
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  Speaker 2: in the span of a few. Years the record. Show
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  Speaker 2: pick the owner of A columbus home healthcare company at
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  Speaker 2: random and look them up on public. Records you're likely
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  Speaker 2: to go down an endless rabbit. Hole years of unpaid
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  Speaker 2: taxes and, debts sometimes criminal, records and an astonishing number
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  Speaker 2: of LLCs created in other, industries as if the millions
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  Speaker 2: they make For medicaid are just a side. Gig we
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  Speaker 2: went down several of those rabbit holes in the coming
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  Speaker 2: days you'll meet, Now i'm gonna give you several of these.
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  Speaker 2: Examples every one of these is going to piss you.
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  Speaker 2: Off these are real, people or at least real fake
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  Speaker 2: people In. Ohio number one a politician who founded an
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  Speaker 2: eleven million dollar home healthcare company that he appeared to
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  Speaker 2: run part time without even mentioning it in his political,
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  Speaker 2: biography who then funded his. Campaign he funded his campaign
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  Speaker 2: with donations from other home healthcare. Owners so this is
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  Speaker 2: a guy robbing a million dollar eleven million. Dollars he's
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  Speaker 2: hiding it because obviously he's embarrassed about, it and he's
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  Speaker 2: relying on other fraudsters to fund his political. Operation this
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  Speaker 2: is the shameless, grift the cycle of thievery that we're
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  Speaker 2: saying over and over. Again all, right here's another. One number,
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  Speaker 2: two a woman who reinvented her JANITORIAL. Llc so she
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  Speaker 2: had a janitorial company as a quote health. Provider then
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  Speaker 2: she Build. Medicaid what do you think she Build medicaid
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  Speaker 2: the very first, month she went from being a janitorial
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  Speaker 2: company to healthcare.
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  Speaker 3: Provider she Built medicaid Good somali.
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  Speaker 1: Mentor and you go from the toilet cleaning you, know,
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  Speaker 1: job to then and, SORRY i got the hiccups. Now
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  Speaker 1: but if you go from a toilet cleaning job to
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  Speaker 1: then you go to home, healthcare like, sure your first
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  Speaker 1: month and startup would BE i don't, know five, grand eight,
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  Speaker 1: grand MAYBE i Know i'm, wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Right nearly one hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Grand, yeah one hundred grand first, month first, month like
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  Speaker 1: that is one heck of a, startup right, there, Folks.
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  Speaker 2: All, right here's another. One number. Three by the, way
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  Speaker 2: you've got the, Hiccups we're gonna send a home healthcare.
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  Speaker 3: Provider, yeah, yeah CAN i make a hundred? Grand i'll
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  Speaker 3: take you.
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  Speaker 2: That that would be your, children and they're gonna go
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  Speaker 2: punch you in the stomach till you. Stop hit.
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  Speaker 4: COMPY i like, THIS i like this.
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  Speaker 3: Plan as long as they get, paid it's. FINE i
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  Speaker 3: want to kick back here.
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  Speaker 2: Or at least golf. Sponsorships there you. Go number three
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  Speaker 2: a landlord who bought airplanes after renting space to hundreds
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  Speaker 2: of home healthcare companies that Build medicaid a quarter of
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  Speaker 2: a billion dollars quarter of a, billion two hundred and fifty.
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  Speaker 2: Million number four a man who went to prison for
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  Speaker 2: medicaid fraud but told the government he was too broke
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  Speaker 2: to pay restitution while his neighbors and associates provide over
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  Speaker 2: a poverty Program. Empire and number five an accountant who
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  Speaker 2: has lost his license for stealing public funds then opened
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  Speaker 2: a seven million dollar home health care company using the
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  Speaker 2: address of a convicted money launderer's teenage. Son, NOW i gotta, Say,
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  Speaker 2: ben if you're listening to, this if you're not pissed,
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  Speaker 2: off they're not buying.
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  Speaker 1: ATTENTION i, mean this story really brings us back to
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  Speaker 1: even a bigger, point and that is this is probably.
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  Speaker 1: Nationwide like what we're, witnessing what we're, saying this is
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  Speaker 1: going to end up being fraud at different, levels probably
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  Speaker 1: in every state Of, america because you're still dealing with
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  Speaker 1: fraud through the federal, government so you can set up
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  Speaker 1: shop anywhere because it's not like it's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: state oversight.
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  Speaker 2: Here, well, listen this is. Brazen these are fraudsters who
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  Speaker 2: believe no politician will ever call them to, account no
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  Speaker 2: government employee will ever examine the. Facts no prosecutor will
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  Speaker 2: look at, it and they're quite confident that the press
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  Speaker 2: will never examine. It these are not. Geniuses let me
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: read a little more from the. Story these are not in,
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  Speaker 2: fact here's the POINT i was just. Making these are
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  Speaker 2: not business, geniuses nor even people with any training or
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  Speaker 2: specialty in the health. Field they've often failed at a
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  Speaker 2: variety of businesses before suddenly becoming millionaires in home. Healthcare
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  Speaker 2: sometimes a company will have a full roster of clients
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  Speaker 2: in his very first, month making one wonder where the
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  Speaker 2: clients come. From the companies don't have websites or appear to.
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  Speaker 2: Advertise they can't stand out from their thousands of rivals
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  Speaker 2: based on price unless they pay kickbacks because the government
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  Speaker 2: pays the same to. Everyone nearly every owner of a
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  Speaker 2: healthcare company In columbus appears to be. Foreign let me repeat,
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  Speaker 2: that because that's a stunning. Statement nearly every owner of
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  Speaker 2: a home healthcare company In columbus appears to be. Foreign
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  Speaker 2: they live in a parallel society where every associate and
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  Speaker 2: public records also has a foreign, name and all their
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  Speaker 2: business transactions are conducted with other. Foreigners when we asked
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  Speaker 2: one what home healthcare companies. Did one man threatened, journalists
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  Speaker 2: who cares do you guys pay my? Bills i'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: tell everybody you guys are. Racists the government cannot meaningfully
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  Speaker 2: monitor all the people it writes million dollar checks to In.
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  Speaker 2: Columbus they all share combinations of just a few, names
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  Speaker 2: Like Ahmed mohammed And Mohammed. Ahmed how is this not?
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  Speaker 2: Satire by the Way i'm, reading actual news documents reviewed
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  Speaker 2: By The Daily wire show individuals will spell their own
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  Speaker 2: name multiple different ways within a single. Document let me
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  Speaker 2: repeat that. Again someone spells the Name Bean, Ferguson, yeah
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  Speaker 2: Bad fergie Fergisn like like how? Many how do you
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  Speaker 2: misspell your name multiple times in a?
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  Speaker 3: Document and?
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  Speaker 1: Backwards sometimes it Was Ben, ferguson it Was, Ferguson, ben
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  Speaker 1: it Was Ted cruz and Then Cruise.
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  Speaker 2: Ted you, Know, Penealopy, Cruise Tom, Cruise Cruise control like
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  Speaker 2: every vary eight you can come, with and many of
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  Speaker 2: them lists their birthdays As january, first because their birthdays are.
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  Speaker 2: Unknown the business model is. SIMPLE a forty year Old
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  Speaker 2: somali immigrant gets paid for spending time with and maybe
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  Speaker 2: cooking for his own sixty five year old. Mother the
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  Speaker 2: middleman is one of thousands of home health firms that
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  Speaker 2: have THE npi number necessary to bill. Medicate the forty
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  Speaker 2: year old becomes a quote employee of that, company but
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: has no clients other than his. Mother there is no
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  Speaker 2: way to verify whether he actually provided the quote services
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  Speaker 2: unless his own mother is willing to testify against. Him
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: this poverty program is different from things like food stamps
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: because it has no monetary cap and its extent is
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: decided not by politicians but by any doctor willing to
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  Speaker 2: sign a form saying you could use some help around the.
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  Speaker 2: House it only takes one doctor who will say yes
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  Speaker 2: to churn out enough forms to bankrupt a.
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  Speaker 2: the implication was that there was no waste in that
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  Speaker 2: category and nothing that could be done about, it even
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  Speaker 2: Wrong this blatant waste happened within miles of The ohio State,
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  Speaker 2: Flags perhaps that's because it's largely run by, states but
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  Speaker 2: the federal. Taxpayers The trump administration is now turning its
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  Speaker 2: The Federal Trade Commission Chairman Andrew ferguson And Vice PRESIDENT.
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  Speaker 2: Vance they may want to start With vance's home. STATE
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  Speaker 2: is a. Pattern it's not confined To, minnesota it's not
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  Speaker 2: confined To. Ohio this is a pattern of theft across the,
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  Speaker 2: country and we need to have vigorous. EFFORTS i want
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  Speaker 2: to commend The trump. Administration The department Of justice is
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: going after this. FRAUD hhs is going after this. Fraud
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: we're beginning to see. Accountability AND i want to thank
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: The Daily wire for doing some. Reporting let me ask
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  Speaker 2: where the hell IS, CNN, ABCNBC cbs is doing a little,
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  Speaker 2: Bit But Washington, Post New York times are.
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  Speaker 1: There, actually the hard, orders the hardcore investigative journalists are
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: not doing any of this. Journalism this is like the
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  Speaker 1: conservative advocates out there that are doing this. Job The
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  Speaker 1: Nick shirley's are doing this. Job no one in the
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  Speaker 1: mainstream media is breaking this.
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  Speaker 3: Story.
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  Speaker 2: Look, look we covered previously on this podcast HOW cnn
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  Speaker 2: when the story broke In, minnesota they decided to check.
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  Speaker 2: It so they called these quote childcare agencies and they, Said,
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  Speaker 2: hi this IS cnn. Calling are you engaged in? Fraud
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  Speaker 2: and they, said oh, no and they, said, oh, okay thank.
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  Speaker 6: You hung.
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  Speaker 2: Up that's what they called. Reporting, ye the LAST i.
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  Speaker 2: Checked if you call criminals and asked them if they're committing,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: crimes most of them are going to tell you. No
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  Speaker 2: and by the, WAY cnn knows that the reporters know,
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  Speaker 2: that the producer knows, that the executive producer knows, that
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: everyone up and down the line knows that they know
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  Speaker 2: how to actually investigate a. Story it's just that the
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  Speaker 2: media doesn't care about this. STORY i commend The Daily.
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  Speaker 2: Wire we're gonna keep covering this AND i think this
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: is just the tip of the iceberg on what's.
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  Speaker 1: Happening, YEAH i, agree and it's gonna be other types
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: of fraud that we talked about at the beginning of the.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Show we're gonna keep covering it and as these stories,
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  Speaker 1: break we will have it. HERE i hope you'll take
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: this show and share. It but by the, way because
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: it's so important that we get it out.
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• 24:29
  Speaker 2: dad's kind of a. Badass what my father, says he
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: says in eighty seven, years he's never hiccuped more than.
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  Speaker 3: Once, now see that's fake.
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  Speaker 2: News i'm just telling you my. Father, look WHEN i
• 24:41
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  Speaker 2: you get a? Hundred and he would, Say i'm not
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  Speaker 2: meaning to be, Mean but my father would say to,
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  Speaker 2: me if you hicc up, twice it's a sign of,
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  Speaker 2: weakness because if you hiccup, once you just need to,
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  Speaker 2: decide don't do it.
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  Speaker 3: Again don't do it. Again, Yeah i'm working on. That
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  Speaker 3: side effect is. Hiccup that's WHAT i looked.
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  Speaker 1: i'm doing the BEST i.
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  Speaker 2: Can i'll Confess i've failed my father's standard of never
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  Speaker 2: hiccup more than. Once but If i'm, hiccupping usually IF
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  Speaker 2: i take a glass of water and just drink the
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  Speaker 2: whole thing. Uninterrupted it goes.
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  Speaker 3: Away so we paused this show.
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  Speaker 1: Earlier people don't know this because we were trying to
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  Speaker 1: get rid of the. Hiccups we tried everything and during
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  Speaker 1: the break so we just it is what it. Is
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  Speaker 1: at this, point you can always go back and give
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  Speaker 1: Carlson he did an interview and it couldn't have gotten
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  Speaker 1: worse for him With New York. Times i've said this.
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  Speaker 1: Before some disagree with. ME i think the demise Of
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Tucker carlson is happening in real. TIME i think his
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: audience is disappearing very. QUICKLY i think these types of
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: interviews do an incredible damage to his integrity as, character
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: and these interviews just show how unhinged he, is which
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: we've been talking about for quite some. Time he's also
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: still obsessed with you and had something very interesting to
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: say about you in This New York times interview as.
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  Speaker 5: Well who do you think is more morally Repulsive Ted?
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: Cruz who do you Think Ted? Cruz Ted cruz is
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: a SITTING Us senator who has called for the killing
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: of people who did nothing, wrong whole, populations who advocated
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: for this. War Nick fuentes is like a. Kid he's
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: like twenty six or. Seven he has no power except his. Words,
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: here you have a public official who we, pay who
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: has actual, power who's voting for, things who's making policy,
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: decisions and those decisions would include in, fact they are
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: focused on the murder of people who did nothing, wrong
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: and yet no one thinks it's a big.
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  Speaker 4: Deal, well it's just totally.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: FINE i, mean if there's tape Of nick Fuente is
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: saying we should kill people because we hate their, parents
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: or it's okay to kill, CHILDREN i would love to
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: see the tape because that's. Disgusting and that's basically the
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: ENTIRE Us senate does every single, day and no one
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: Notices nick fuent has said something naughty THAT i disagreed
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: with he made fun of things THAT i don't THINK
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: i would never make.
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: Su he's a white, nationalist was denied The, holocaust and
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: WHAT i will say than killing kids from my understanding
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  Speaker 6: of my. Own you, KNOW i was just In germany,
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: recently and you, know it was such a good remind
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: that The holocaust didn't start with the gassing Of. Jews
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: it started with the dehumanization Of. Jews it was language
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: that was. Used and again that is.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: WHAT i couldn't agree.
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  Speaker 5: More and that's why when you have A Us, senator
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: a member Of, congress A us ambassador waving away civilian
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: deaths as if they don't, matter that's the language of
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: genocide which. Results and this is the lesson of The
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: holocaust in genocide, itself and it has so the lesson
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: for me really watching all of this is that this
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: can happen in civilized, countries in all human, beings there
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: is the capacity to ignore the evil right in front of.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: You And i'm my point is it's happening right. Now
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: and my, job they SAID i have. ONE i don't
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: really have a, job BUT i just want to remind
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: people that were all capable of, that including, me and that.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: We're watching it right.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: Now and if you think That Nick fuents is a
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: greater threat to other human beings Than Ted, CRUZ i
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: would love to know HOW i.
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  Speaker 6: Can imagine people hearing this and thinking you are soft
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: peddling Ni. Quinte's you are apologizing soft Pedling.
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: Naquinta's i'm trying to awaken people to killing of innocence
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: in our midst which we are not only encouraged to,
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: ignore but really told to ignore on pain of being.
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  Speaker 4: Denounced And i'm just, saying, No i'm not doing.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: That Senator Nick foyt is a holocaust.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Denier, yeah but that days even touch. It let's start
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: with the fact that this LOAN i think he brought
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  Speaker 2: me up eight or nine times in that. Interview APPARENTLY
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: i am living completely rent free in his, brain and
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: every word he's saying is a brazen. LIE i am
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: fifty five years. Old never once HAVE i called for
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: the murder of. Innocence never once HAVE i called for
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: the murder of. Children by the, way he claims THAT
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  Speaker 2: i do. That he claims that the ENTIRE us said
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: it does, That and it's just it's at a point
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: where it's a pathological. Lie there's no. Basis in, fact
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: there's no. Evidence he just says. It he just asserts,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: it and he knows he's. Lying he doesn't care he's.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Lying by the, way his defense Of Nick quent, says,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Well Nick quent has said something.
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  Speaker 4: NAUGHTY ti.
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  Speaker 2: Naughty, okay here's What Nick quent has. Said he Said
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: hitler was, Right hitler was, very very. COOL i agree With.
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  Speaker 2: Hitler On tucker's, Show nickquent has said his mission in
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: life is to defeat global. Jewelry that's not something. Naughty
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: that is a Rabid nazi, bigot he also. Said Nick
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: fuentes also said that he Celebrates stalin's birthday every. Year
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: tucker nodded. Approvingly and by the, Way, tucker there's a
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: reason Why tucker is Celebrating Nick. Fuentes tucker has gone
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: to the point now of Embracing. Nazis it's not Just
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Nick fuentes who's an Open. Nazi tucker had had one
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: lunatic professor on a show who said That winston Church
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: show was the villain Of World WAR, ii and another
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: lunatic professor on a show who, said there's a good
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: argument The americans should have supported The nazis In World war. Two,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: no there's. Not But tucker is on a, mission AND
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: i believe at this POINT i cannot prove, it BUT
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: i Believe tucker is being compensated as being paid By
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: cutter or other foreign. Nations he is apologizing For, islamists
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: he is apologizing For, sharia he is apologizing For america.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Haters he is Attacking trump every. Day he is Attacking,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Israel he's Attacking. Jews he knows he's lying about, Me
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: but his mission is also to Normalize. Nazis by the,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: way one of the things he said this week Is Graham,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: plattner the Lunatic democrat nominee or likely, nominee almost inevitable
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: nominee In maine For, senate who is a self described.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Communist Graham platner, Says i'm a communist and who has
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: not just A nazi tattoo on his, chest but a Toten,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: komf which is the tattoo of THE ss in the
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: death chambers of the concentration. Camps you know, What Tucker carlson, Said,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: OH i want to Interview Graham. Plattner i'm sure they, do,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: baby they have Matching nazi. TATTOOS i don't know what
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Tattoos Tucker carlin, said As tucker would, Say i'm just asking.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Questions but, apparently if you're A, nazi if you say,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Sighile tucker wants to elevate.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: You AND i gotta say it and not just, elevate
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: you normalize you make it go.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Away and, listen by the, way when you lie about.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: People you notice his whole diatribe about, me he provided
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: no evidence WHAT i just listened About. TUCKER i can
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: give you the episodes where he said every one of those.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Things those are objective. Facts but here's. So tucker is
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: now a professional liar who lives without. Facts AND i
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: want you to listen to this. Exchange and if you're
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: watching on, YouTube it's even better if you watch, it
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: because it's not just. Me tucker has decided he Hates,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: america he Hates Donald, trump he Hates, jews he hates.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Capitalism he had this other lunatic on his show who
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: said that That jesus hated capitalism And jesus was a.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Socialist he is, attacked h he is.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: Are.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: RIGHT i want you to listen to him being confronted
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: over his argument That Donald trump is The. Antichrist this
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: is What tucker has, argued and when he's confronted with
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: his own, words he just flat out.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: Lies listen WHAT i was, saying which, is you cannot
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: mock other people's gods and put yourself in their.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Place. Period that is a deal killer for. Me that's
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: worse than the war With iran in my. Opinion.
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah BUT i, asked because you know you've been talking
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: on your show about Whether trump is The.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: ANTICHRIST i have not said. That on your show the
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: day After, easter you.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: Noted he did not put his hand on The bible
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: during his swearing ceremony as. President you, said And i'm,
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: quoting maybe he didn't put his hand on The bible
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: because he affirmatively rejects what's inside that. Book and then
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: on a recent show you went, further, saying here's a
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: leader who's mocking the gods of his, ancestors mocking The
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: god of gods and exalting himself above. Them could this
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: be The?
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: ANTICHRIST i actually did not, say could this be The?
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: Antichrist here's a leader who's mocked the gods of his,
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: ancestors mocking the god of gods and exalting himself above.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Them could this be The. Antichrist, well who. KNOWS i
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: don't know where that comes.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: From BUT i know that those words never left my
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: lips Because i'm not SURE i fully understand what the antichrist.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: Is if there's just ONE i actually tried to understand.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: IT i may have said some are asking. That i'm
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: not weighing on that BECAUSE i don't understand, it just
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: to be tone obviously the.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Center he said that like fifteen days ago when the
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  Speaker 1: interview took. Place by the, way a year, ago he,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: SAYS i may have, said some are. Asking he didn't say.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: That she played what he. Said she played verbato what he.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Said he, asked very, directly Is DONALD. J trump The? Antichrist,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Look i'm willing to answer. That, NO i don't Believe
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: President trump is The. Antichrist but But tucker doesn't live
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: in the world of. Facts he doesn't live where any
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: words he says matter and the words he's, Saying so
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: there's good news and bad. News the bad news is
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: the words he's saying are having really serious negative. Consequences
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: he is pushing Anti, Semitism he's pushing jew. Hate every,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: day like every, week his show focuses on how The
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: jews are responsible for everything wrong in the. World but
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: he's also Pushing america. Hate he's pushing How america is.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Terrible he's Pushing trump. Hate he has said he regrets Supporting.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Trump he Wished trump's had LOST i mean that's.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah he, said that's his.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Brother it was like this sad moment where they're, like
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: we are going to be held accountable for helping this
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: man win The White.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: House so the good.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: News so the good news Is tucker is becoming more
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: and more irrelevant each and every.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Day he's really.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Talented he's a, charming charismatic. Guy even when he's lying to,
• 36:47
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  Speaker 2: tucker hates your guts and his mission is to attack.
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  Speaker 2: You AND i think that's why more and more people
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