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Bidenomics Makes Home Ownership Unaffordable, Chinese Nationals Invade Our Southern Border & RFK Jr. Identifies Biden as the Biggest Threat to Democracy · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict with Center, Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson
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Speaker 1: with you Center. We have got a lot to talk about,
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Speaker 1: including some shocking economic numbers that are telling a large
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Speaker 1: percentage of Americans that home ownership may not be attainable
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Speaker 1: for you under the Biden administration's Bidenomics.
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Speaker 2: Well, the reality of Bidenomics is coming home to roost
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Speaker 2: for a lot of people, and the latest stats are
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Speaker 2: showing that more than half of Americans are no longer
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Speaker 2: in a position to afford a median priced home. It
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Speaker 2: is stunning, and it is imposing real harms on real Americans.
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Speaker 2: We also have the latest stats of what's happening at
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Speaker 2: the border and in particular a Chinese invasion under Joe Biden.
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Speaker 2: The number of Chinese nationals crossing the border is skyrocketing
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Speaker 2: under Joe Biden, going up and up and up. We're
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Speaker 2: going to break all that down, and finally we're going
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Speaker 2: he went on CNN. CNN through him what they thought
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Speaker 2: would be just softball to say Trump is horrible at
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Speaker 2: a threat to democracy, and Robert F. Kennedy Junior shocked
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Speaker 2: CNN by saying no, actually, he thought there was a
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Speaker 2: very serious argument that Joe Biden was a much greater
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Speaker 2: threat to democracy than Donald Trump. We're going to break
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Speaker 1: about this shocking new data that's come out. Fox News
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Speaker 1: kind of broke it and they said America now need
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Speaker 1: an annual salary of at least one hundred and ten
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Speaker 1: thousand to afford a medium price home. That is up
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Speaker 1: from about seventy four thousand in twenty twenty.
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Speaker 3: That is staggering.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a dramatic shift. And this is Bidenomics is
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Speaker 2: hurting Americans across this country and it's hurting virtually everyone.
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Speaker 2: It's hurting seniors. Seniors are getting hammered by bidenmics because
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Speaker 2: inflation is driving up the cost of living the cost
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Speaker 2: of everything they're spending, and yet they're on a fixed income.
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Speaker 2: But Bidenomics is also really hammering young people, young couples
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Speaker 2: that are buying their first home. They're facing the simple
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Speaker 2: reality you come out to get your first home. You're
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Speaker 2: all excited. You want to have a home, you want
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Speaker 2: to raise a family, and they're discovering both home prices
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Speaker 2: have risen dramatically under Joe Biden, but also interest rates.
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Speaker 2: Young people, many young people of people in their twenties,
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Speaker 2: even people in their thirties have never known inflation. They've
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Speaker 2: never known what it was because we've been living in
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Speaker 2: a little bit of a holiday from history where inflation
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Speaker 2: hasn't existed. And suddenly people buying their first home, or
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Speaker 2: for that matter, their second or third or fourth home
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Speaker 2: as they progress in life, are discovering that the home
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Speaker 2: they used to be able to get at a two
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Speaker 2: and a half percent interest rate, now they can get
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Speaker 2: half as much home at a seven percent interest rate.
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Speaker 2: And that is meaning a lot of people are not
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Speaker 2: able to buy homes. They're locked into whatever home they're
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Speaker 2: at because they need the interest rates low, and those
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Speaker 2: rates are locked in although they have an adjustable rate mortgage.
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Speaker 2: A number of those are headed towards expiring, which is
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Speaker 2: putting people at a fiscal cliff. But they're also finding
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Speaker 2: if it's your first home. A whole lot of people
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Speaker 2: just home ownership is beyond their reach. And the median
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Speaker 2: price home. Look, it's worth refreshing some basic math. There
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Speaker 2: are a number of different ways to think of averages.
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Speaker 2: There's the mean, which is the average. You take all
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Speaker 2: the all the different prices and you average them together,
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Speaker 2: and the average price is if there's one that's one
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Speaker 2: hundred million and a bunch that are lower, the average
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Speaker 2: will rise higher because of the one. The median is
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Speaker 2: a very different measure. It's not the average price, but
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Speaker 2: it's rather the middle price, the midpoint price. So the
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Speaker 2: median price means half the prices are higher and half
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Speaker 2: the prices or no are lower. So it's identifying the
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Speaker 2: highest point on the bell curve. And what is striking
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Speaker 2: And we're going to play right now what Fox News
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Speaker 2: said about this. The median priced home is now significantly
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Speaker 2: above the median salary, and that is meaning for many
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Speaker 2: Americans home ownership, particularly if you don't have a home already,
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Speaker 2: is being priced out of reach by Joe Biden.
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Speaker 4: The average home buyer needs to make over one hundred
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Speaker 4: and ten thousand dollars to afford the average home. A
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Speaker 4: new Bank Rate study showing that the required salary to
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Speaker 4: make that purchase has jumped forty six percent in just
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Speaker 4: four years. Home Buyers only needed to make seventy six
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Speaker 4: thousand back in twenty twenty, and the issue widespread. You
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Speaker 4: now need a six figure salary to buy the average
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Speaker 4: home in twenty three states, including the District of Columbia.
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Speaker 4: Four years ago, that number was just six. Mortgage rates,
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Speaker 4: of course, have played a small role in the bump,
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Speaker 4: but home prices have by and large kept pace with
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Speaker 4: the needed salary to buy them. The average home up
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Speaker 4: forty two percent, sitting at four hundred and twelve thousand
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Speaker 4: dollars now. Even though the housing market may be pricing
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Speaker 4: people out, people shouldn't be too quick to think that
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Speaker 4: renting is the solution. Since President Biden took office, rents
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Speaker 4: are up nearly twenty one percent.
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Speaker 1: You look at the rent numbers there, and let's just
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Speaker 1: go through some of those data points real quick.
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Speaker 3: Center.
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Speaker 1: You look at your salary, and if you look at
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Speaker 1: your salary January twenty twenty, they said you need seventy
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Speaker 1: nine and thirty nine dollars to afford the met price home.
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Speaker 1: Now you need one hundred and ten eight hundred and
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Speaker 1: seventy one dollars. That is a forty six percent increase.
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Speaker 1: As the average American have they've received a forty six
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Speaker 1: percent raise in the last four years, the answer is
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Speaker 1: going to be no.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. And you know, forty six percent
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Speaker 2: is a stunning number because Joe Biden has been president
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Speaker 2: barely a little bit over three years, three years and
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Speaker 2: three months. That's not very long. Three years and three
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Speaker 2: months to have home prices go up forty six percent,
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Speaker 2: that is a massive impact on people trying to purchase
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Speaker 2: a home. And and listen, seventy six thousand dollars is
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Speaker 2: a lot of money that that is, but comparatively going
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Speaker 2: from seventy six thousand to one hundred and eleven thousand
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Speaker 2: dollars in three and a half less than three and
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Speaker 2: a half years, that is the very real impact of
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden the Democrats printing trillions of dollars we don't have,
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Speaker 2: and it is her Americans across this country, as home
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Speaker 2: ownership is getting less and less affordable.
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Speaker 1: You also look in there they were talking about and
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Speaker 1: just again it's a prospective issue. Here states where you
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Speaker 1: needed six figure salaries are more to afford a home
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Speaker 1: January twenty twenty only six states. Now this is spread nationwide,
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Speaker 1: twenty three different states, but the district of Columbia you've
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Speaker 1: got to make now more than six figures plus to
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Speaker 1: afford home ownership. That is Bidenomics hitting everybody across this country.
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Speaker 2: Well, and ben you know who doesn't care about this. Democrats.
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Speaker 2: So one of the most important political shifts. It used
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Speaker 2: to be conventional wisdom that the Republicans of the Party
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Speaker 2: of the rich and Democrats of the Party of the
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Speaker 2: poor and working class. That's been turned on its head.
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Speaker 2: I think the most significant political shift of the last
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Speaker 2: decade is today Democrats of the Party of the rich.
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Speaker 2: So if you talk to Democrats, I don't know a
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Speaker 2: Democrat senator who cares about this because, frankly, who are
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Speaker 2: they listening to. They're listening to big tech billionaires. They're
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Speaker 2: listening to the super wealthy lawyers and Hollywood producers. They
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Speaker 2: are the hedge fund party that is the Democrats today,
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Speaker 2: And you know who they're not the Party of any
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Speaker 2: more steel workers, truck drivers, cops, firefighters, teachers, waiters, waitresses,
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Speaker 2: working men and women. The Democrat Party has abandoned, they've
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Speaker 2: left behind, and so the people they're getting hammered by this.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, young people and Democrats want to
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Speaker 2: convince young people, hey, we're all for you because because
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Speaker 2: we're just going to focus on social issues. And listen,
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Speaker 2: if you're young, the Democrats tell you, the only thing
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Speaker 2: you should care about is transgenderism. Apparently it is the
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Speaker 2: most important issue on planet Earth. Not a homicidal iatola
10:01
Speaker 2: trying to murder us, not an invasion at our southern border,
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Speaker 2: not the fentanyl crisis and the drug overdoses. None of
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Speaker 2: those are the problem. Transgenderism is the issue that you,
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Speaker 2: as a young person, should care about intensely. Well, you
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Speaker 2: know what, there are a lot of young people like
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Speaker 2: maybe you're in college and you buy that nonsense, But
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Speaker 2: then you get out of school and you're like, wait
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Speaker 2: a second, I got to pay for an apartment. How
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Speaker 2: much is rent? Again?
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Speaker 3: Wait?
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Speaker 2: Rent? I can't afford rent. And by the way, look
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Speaker 2: that Fox News story was really striking. If people can't
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Speaker 2: afford to buy a home and they can't afford to rent. Well,
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Speaker 2: that's kind of a problem. What are they supposed to do?
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Speaker 2: What's the alternative to those two things? And it is
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Speaker 2: the working men and women who bid nomics is leaving
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Speaker 2: behind in the dust.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty percent plus. Rent at rates are up on
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Speaker 1: average nationwide. Well, I've never said this before, Center, but
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Speaker 1: the Fox News story that we played was actually the
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Speaker 1: best way of prison the problem. Yahoo Finance came out
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Speaker 1: and said it's actually worse than the way they reported
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Speaker 1: on Fox. Here is what they said when it came
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Speaker 1: to home buyers. They actually said, in reality, home buyers
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Speaker 1: need to earn eighty percent more than they did in
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty to afford a home in today's market. If
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Speaker 1: you're looking at overall home prices, listen to this from
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Speaker 1: Yahoo Finance.
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Speaker 5: Manny Americans, home ownership is seeming more and more out
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Speaker 5: of reach. According to new analysis from Zillow, home prices
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Speaker 5: have jumped forty two percent since twenty twenty, but the
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Speaker 5: average person needs to earn eighty percent more than they
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Speaker 5: did at that time in order to comfortably afford a
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Speaker 5: home in today's market.
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Speaker 1: Center, It's interesting how they looked at this. They're saying,
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Speaker 1: there are different ways to look at it. They look
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Speaker 1: at it as the issue of can you comfortably afford
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Speaker 1: a home in today's market. To comfortably afford a home
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Speaker 1: in today's market, they say you need to earn eighty
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Speaker 1: percent more than you did in twenty twenty because of
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Speaker 1: the skyrocketing cost the home, interest rates, inflation, and everything else.
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Speaker 1: So they're saying, hey, it's even worse than what the
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Speaker 1: best case scenario data shows you. Hear, and they said, quote, today,
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Speaker 1: those shopping for a home need to earn one hundred
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Speaker 1: and six thousand annually to afford a medium price home.
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Speaker 1: But this is the part that you don't understand. The
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Speaker 1: cost of insurance, the cost of heating, the cost of
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Speaker 1: everything when you own a home has gone up so
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Speaker 1: much more that you need to earn eighty percent more
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Speaker 1: than you did in twenty twenty.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, and it's striking. It makes you ask
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Speaker 2: why would the Democrats be doing this? Listen, The classic
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Speaker 2: question in any election is are you better off now
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Speaker 2: than you were four years ago? And for the overwhelming
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Speaker 2: majority of Americans, the answer to that is hell no.
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Speaker 2: That under Joe Biden, people who are who are working
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Speaker 2: class people who are seniors, people who are young, people
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Speaker 2: who are struggling, people are getting started, people who want
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Speaker 2: to a home, people who want to rent. All of
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Speaker 2: them their life has gotten much harder. And you know,
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Speaker 2: it reminds me of what we talked about two days
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Speaker 2: ago on Monday's Pod, which is California. This week on
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Speaker 2: Monday imposed a new twenty dollars minimum wage for fast
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Speaker 2: food restaurants with more than sixty sixty stores. Now. One
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Speaker 2: of the things that striking California exempted Panera Breads, which
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Speaker 2: just happens to be owned by a very close friend
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Speaker 2: of the governor, Gavin Newsom. So it's a classic example
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Speaker 2: of Democrats, you know, cronyism, that they will give special
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Speaker 2: gifts to their buddies who happen to be big campaign contributors,
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Speaker 2: and everyone else has different rules. But what we saw
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Speaker 2: this week is thousands and thousands and thousands of Californians
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Speaker 2: being laid off because of this new law imposed by
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Speaker 2: the Democrats. Just Pizza Hut, there were over twelve hundred
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Speaker 2: people laid off. And you know, last night I was
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Speaker 2: having dinner with a number of friends and they were asking,
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Speaker 2: why would the Democrats do this? Wouldn't they understand, wouldn't
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Speaker 2: people in California get pissed off? And what I told
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Speaker 2: them then, and this is actually highly relevant to the
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Speaker 2: home ownership question. What I told my friends who are
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Speaker 2: having dinners, I said, listen, they're making a gamble that
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Speaker 2: enough of the voters will not understand who is to blame.
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Speaker 2: So they're over five hundred thousand fast food employees in California.
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Speaker 2: A bunch of them will get a pay raise. The
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Speaker 2: ones that don't get laid off, the ones whose employers
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Speaker 2: don't go bankrupt and go out of business. The rest
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Speaker 2: of them will get a pay raise. By the way,
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Speaker 2: people who get a pay raise are likely the ones
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Speaker 2: that are more highly skilled. The ones who will lose
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Speaker 2: their jobs are likely more likely to be teenagers. Many
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Speaker 2: of them are low income, many of them are African American,
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Speaker 2: many of them are Hispanic. They're the ones just getting
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Speaker 2: started in their careers. They're the ones who get devastated
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Speaker 2: by Democrats. But I explained, I said, look, the people
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Speaker 2: getting free stuff the Democrats are gambling politically. They'll be grateful. Hey,
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Speaker 2: the Democrats gave me free stuff. I like free stuff.
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Speaker 2: That's good. And the people getting screwed. The Democrats are gambling,
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Speaker 2: they will not understand who it is is screwing them.
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Speaker 2: And in fact, the Democrats plan when it comes to
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Speaker 2: California is just demogogue their employers and say, your mean
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Speaker 2: old employer just hates you, and that's why they laid
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Speaker 2: you off, Not because I the Democrat priced you out
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Speaker 2: of the market and made it impossible for them to
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Speaker 2: stay in business and pay you the new wage I manded. Well,
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Speaker 2: the same is true with the higher price of home ownership,
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Speaker 2: which is the Democrats plan is they're assuming a lot
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Speaker 2: of the voters will not connect the crazy multi trillion
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Speaker 2: dollar spending spree that Joe Biden the Democrats went on
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Speaker 2: with the inflation and with the higher interest rates, And
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Speaker 2: in fact they'll do the same thing they do with
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Speaker 2: fast food. They will demagogue, in this case the big
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Speaker 2: back at homemakers, the big bad banks that are making
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Speaker 2: mortgages because you know, it's just a bank being mean
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Speaker 2: that they're charging seven percent they really should charge two percent.
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Speaker 2: Never Mind, the Fed has increased rates over and over
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16:23
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Speaker 1: reporting on what's actually happening at the southern border, and
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Speaker 2: No, that's exactly right. And I will say Bill Malujan
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Speaker 2: He is doing, frankly, the best job of any reporter
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Speaker 2: there is, and most of the rest of the media
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Speaker 2: doesn't report at all. So CNN apparently has no reporters.
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Speaker 2: They don't report at the border crisis. ABCNBCCBS, they have
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Speaker 2: no reporters, they don't report on the border crisis. NBC
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Speaker 2: so apparently their viewers don't want to know what's happening
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Speaker 2: at the border crisis. But let's just look at the
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Speaker 2: numbers FIS school year twenty twenty one, do you know
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Speaker 2: how many Chinese nationals were arrested crossing the border illegally?
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Speaker 3: How many?
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Speaker 2: Three hundred and forty two. So that's look three hundred
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Speaker 2: forty two. That's three hundred forty two too many, but
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Speaker 2: that sounds like a manageable number. The next year, fiscal
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Speaker 2: year twenty twenty two, it goes from three hundred and
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Speaker 2: forty two to one thousand, nine hundred and eighty seven.
20:22
Speaker 2: Now that's a big jump, three hundred forty two to
20:24
Speaker 2: one thousand, nine hundred eighty seven.
20:26
Speaker 3: Wow.
20:26
Speaker 2: Joe Biden came in office and suddenly instead of three
20:28
Speaker 2: hundred and forty two, you have nearly two thousand Chinese nationals.
20:32
Speaker 2: Big jump. But even so, I'm not sure two thousand
20:35
Speaker 2: Chinese nationals is crisis level. Let's go to fiscal year
20:40
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. It goes from one thousand, nine hundred
20:44
Speaker 2: and eighty seven. Do you know where it goes? Next
20:45
Speaker 2: year twenty twenty three, where's it go to twenty four thousand,
20:50
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five. Wow, So it goes from
20:56
Speaker 2: less than two thousand to twenty four thousand and one
21:00
Speaker 2: and twenty five, And how about fiscal year twenty twenty four.
21:02
Speaker 2: We're halfway through fiscal year twenty twenty four, so if
21:06
Speaker 2: we were on the same pace as fiscal year twenty
21:09
Speaker 2: twenty three, which is twenty four thousand, you'd expect halfway
21:12
Speaker 2: through about twelve thousand, right, sure, you know how much?
21:16
Speaker 2: How many have Chinese nationals have been apprehended at the
21:19
Speaker 2: border in the first six months of fiscal year twenty
21:22
Speaker 2: twenty four.
21:23
Speaker 1: I'm genuinely afraid, just because I've seen the other numbers,
21:25
Speaker 1: and I'm assuming it's going to probably even double what
21:28
Speaker 1: it's gonna end up looking like from last.
21:29
Speaker 2: Year twenty two thousand, two hundred and thirty three. By
21:33
Speaker 2: the way, since this is halfway through the fiscal year,
21:36
Speaker 2: if you double that, that means we're on pace for
21:39
Speaker 2: forty four almost forty five thousand Chinese nationals now since
21:44
Speaker 2: fiscal year twenty twenty one. That is a six thousand,
21:49
Speaker 2: three hundred percent increase. Now, last I checked, Ben and
21:54
Speaker 2: I don't have a globe in front of me, so
21:55
Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong, But China is not immediately to our south,
21:59
Speaker 2: is it?
22:00
Speaker 3: No, it is not.
22:02
Speaker 2: It is really far away across the Pacific Ocean, nowhere
22:06
Speaker 2: near our southern border. And yet we've got a massive invasion.
22:11
Speaker 2: And by the way, I've been down at the border,
22:13
Speaker 2: I've seen at the board. I was down in Brownsville
22:15
Speaker 2: last year. When I was down in Brownsville, and at
22:18
Speaker 2: the time, we were seeing a massive Chinese influx coming
22:22
Speaker 2: across there. And most of the Chinese nationals that were
22:25
Speaker 2: coming were military age men. They were young men, mostly
22:30
Speaker 2: in their twenties, some in their thirties, young single men.
22:33
Speaker 2: They didn't have wives, they didn't have kids, they were
22:35
Speaker 2: just there. Now, the last I checked, having fifty thousand
22:39
Speaker 2: military age men from communist China should be a big
22:44
Speaker 2: damn deal.
22:45
Speaker 1: And yet well, and the reason why you say that
22:48
Speaker 1: so people understand is the intelligence is overwhelming that China
22:52
Speaker 1: does a really good job of getting spies in this country.
22:55
Speaker 1: They also get a really good they do a really
22:57
Speaker 1: good job of bringing in people that are going to
22:59
Speaker 1: come in and still technologies and still I mean countless.
23:04
Speaker 1: China is the masters of stealing everything that we do,
23:08
Speaker 1: and they do this all over the world. But if
23:10
Speaker 1: you have that many coming across, the question is what
23:13
Speaker 1: are they offloading from this country? What are they stealing
23:17
Speaker 1: when it comes just to trades and secrets and manufacturing,
23:20
Speaker 1: The list could go on and on.
23:22
Speaker 2: Well, that's right, and those are the numbers just of
23:24
Speaker 2: the arrests. You put on top of that the god aways.
23:28
Speaker 2: So the vast majority of people at the southern border
23:30
Speaker 2: come and turn themselves in, They go look for a
23:32
Speaker 2: border patrol agent. They turn themselves in because they know
23:36
Speaker 2: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and the Democrats will let
23:38
Speaker 2: them stay. But there's also a different group that are
23:42
Speaker 2: called god aways, and they're the ones that don't turn
23:43
Speaker 2: themselves in. They're the ones that we're aware of. We
23:46
Speaker 2: see footprints, we see them moving, but they get away.
23:50
Speaker 2: The god Aways are the most dangerous group. They are
23:52
Speaker 2: much more likely to be criminals. They're much more likely
23:55
Speaker 2: to be murderers and rapists and child molesters. They're much
23:59
Speaker 2: more likely to be gang thirteen, and they're much much
24:02
Speaker 2: much more likely to be terrorist. If you're a Hamas terrorists,
24:06
Speaker 2: if you're a hesbela terrorist, if you're coming to try
24:09
Speaker 2: to commit mass murder in the United States and you're
24:12
Speaker 2: on the terror watch list, you're not likely to turn
24:14
Speaker 2: yourself into the border patrol. You're going to be or
24:18
Speaker 2: you're going to try to be a got away. Now
24:20
Speaker 2: you know what Bill Malujin reported on April first, How
24:23
Speaker 2: many got aways do you think we're recorded at the
24:27
Speaker 2: border the previous day on March thirty first?
24:32
Speaker 3: Give it to me. I gotta know.
24:34
Speaker 2: Nine hundred and nineteen in one day, in one single day. Now,
24:38
Speaker 2: those are Goda ways we know of. By the way,
24:40
Speaker 2: there are additional godaways we don't know of. The got
24:42
Speaker 2: away measure is we're aware of them, we have some
24:45
Speaker 2: indication they were there, but they got away. So the
24:48
Speaker 2: real number of people across the illegally who got away
24:51
Speaker 2: is going to be substantially higher than nine hundred nineteen.
24:54
Speaker 2: But those are the known god aways. Do you know
24:56
Speaker 2: what the seven day average of known god aways and
24:59
Speaker 2: non is important?
25:01
Speaker 3: What is it?
25:02
Speaker 2: Seven hundred and sixty one per day? Good, every day,
25:06
Speaker 2: day after day after day the seven day.
25:09
Speaker 3: I know these numbers. They know these numbers.
25:11
Speaker 2: These are from the Biden administration, This is from Border Patrol.
25:15
Speaker 2: These are their numbers. That's just the media doesn't report
25:18
Speaker 2: on them. And so I want you to think Hamas
25:22
Speaker 2: has called for jahad against the United States. Palestinian Islamic
25:27
Speaker 2: Jahad has called for jahad against the United States. Hesbelah
25:31
Speaker 2: has called for jahad against the United States. The Iranian
25:34
Speaker 2: Ayahtola has called for jahad against the United States. Does
25:38
Speaker 2: it give you comfort that in the last week, seven
25:43
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty one known god aways got away day
25:46
Speaker 2: after day after day, and how many of those were
25:48
Speaker 2: terrorists seeking to commit mass murder in this country that
25:51
Speaker 2: Joe Biden the Democrats do not care about and are
25:54
Speaker 2: doing nothing to stop.
25:56
Speaker 1: And the question I have for you sooner is is
25:58
Speaker 1: this because illegal immigrants are understanding that, hey, this window
26:02
Speaker 1: may close if Joe Biden doesn't win reelection, and so
26:05
Speaker 1: they're saying, hey, hurry up and get your tail here.
26:07
Speaker 1: Because it seems to be the numbers, as you just
26:09
Speaker 1: describe them, are increasing significantly.
26:13
Speaker 2: In any country on Earth. If you send fifty thousand
26:17
Speaker 2: of your nationals to invade that country, that is an invasion,
26:21
Speaker 2: and it's a military invasion. Well you know what we
26:23
Speaker 2: just described. How on fiscal year twenty twenty four, that's
26:26
Speaker 2: the pace China is on to have sent fifty thousands
26:29
Speaker 2: of their nationals to invade this country illegally, and they
26:32
Speaker 2: are aided and embedded by Joe Biden, the Democrats, who
26:36
Speaker 2: not only are doing nothing to stop them, but are
26:38
Speaker 2: doing everything they can to facilitate their coming. When they
26:42
Speaker 2: show up, what does Biden do? He lets them go,
26:45
Speaker 2: he lets them stay. And so you know what you
26:47
Speaker 2: do if you're communist China, you send even more.
26:50
Speaker 1: It's incredible. And this is the threat, as you described it,
26:52
Speaker 1: national security.
26:53
Speaker 3: That's the thing that keeps me up.
26:55
Speaker 1: And my final question for you in this is my
26:57
Speaker 1: biggest concern is not is no longer than the numbers
27:00
Speaker 1: that are coming in. My biggest concern, Senator, is the
27:04
Speaker 1: number of people that are coming in that are that
27:06
Speaker 1: are wanting to do harm to this country. And I'm
27:09
Speaker 1: talking about terrorists coming into this country. We have no
27:13
Speaker 1: idea who's getting into this country right now.
27:15
Speaker 2: Ben I've said this many times and it makes me
27:18
Speaker 2: sad to say it, but I think we have the
27:21
Speaker 2: greatest risk of a major terrorist attack right now that
27:25
Speaker 2: we have had at any point since September eleventh, two
27:28
Speaker 2: thousand and one. And sadly, I believe we are living
27:32
Speaker 2: on borrow time that it's only a matter of time
27:35
Speaker 2: when you have feckless democrats open up our border to
27:40
Speaker 2: this invasion day after day after day, week after week,
27:44
Speaker 2: month after month, year after year. The volumes are getting
27:47
Speaker 2: so great that it is inevitable that that that that
27:51
Speaker 2: Americans are going to.
27:52
Speaker 3: Lose their lives.
27:53
Speaker 2: We've already seen the victims of crimes because Joe Biden
27:57
Speaker 2: released murderers, released rapists, for East child molesters, released vicious
28:02
Speaker 2: criminals into this country. It is releasing them every day.
28:05
Speaker 2: We've already seen those body bags tragically piling up, and
28:11
Speaker 2: I tremble to think about when terrorism kicks in and
28:16
Speaker 2: those body bags. I hope and pray this is not
28:20
Speaker 2: the case, but they could well increase dramatically. And every
28:25
Speaker 2: day that goes by that you let more and more
28:27
Speaker 2: potential terrorists in this country, the odds of those attacks
28:30
Speaker 2: go up.
28:31
Speaker 3: Yeah.
28:31
Speaker 1: And we know for a fact we're letting terrorists in
28:33
Speaker 1: because we're catching some of them and many of them
28:35
Speaker 1: that are on the terrorist watch lists. A record number
28:38
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28:41
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31:00
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31:04
Speaker 1: have him on, and they thought they were giving him
31:08
Speaker 1: a softball question that was going to be easy, and
31:11
Speaker 1: he's going to rip on Donald Trump. Tee it up
31:13
Speaker 1: from there because it didn't go the way they thought
31:16
Speaker 1: it was going.
31:16
Speaker 3: To go at all.
31:18
Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. CNN tossed to RFK juniors a
31:23
Speaker 2: question that they thought RFK would say, Oh, yes, Trump
31:25
Speaker 2: is clearly the manifest threat to democracy, and so you
31:29
Speaker 2: really should vote for job Iiden instead. Well, RFK did
31:32
Speaker 2: not play along and listen to this exchange because CNN
31:36
Speaker 2: was astonished at what RFK had to say.
31:39
Speaker 6: I sent too many issues. While I admire his high
31:41
Speaker 6: minded ideals, his suggestion that there's no difference between mister
31:43
Speaker 6: Ware and mister Bush is irresponsible. A moment ago, you said,
31:47
Speaker 6: you you essentially see Trump and Biden as saying different
31:51
Speaker 6: different issues. But do you really believe that when people
31:54
Speaker 6: talk about the threat to democracy that Trump poses, do
31:56
Speaker 6: you really think that that is is an equal Yeah, mull.
32:00
Speaker 7: Biden, listen. I can make the argument that President Biden
32:06
Speaker 7: is a much worse threat to democracy. And the reason
32:09
Speaker 7: for that is President Biden is the first candidate in history,
32:12
Speaker 7: the first president in the history, that has used the
32:15
Speaker 7: federal agencies to censor political speech. So the censor's opponent, I,
32:20
Speaker 7: you know, I can say that because I just want
32:22
Speaker 7: a case in the Federal Court of Appeals and now
32:24
Speaker 7: before the Supreme Court. It shows that he started censoring
32:28
Speaker 7: not just me, for thirty seven hours after he took
32:31
Speaker 7: the other office, he was censoring me. No president in
32:33
Speaker 7: the country has ever done that. The greatest threat democracy
32:38
Speaker 7: is not somebody who questions election returns, but a president
32:41
Speaker 7: of the United States who used the power of his
32:43
Speaker 7: office to force the social media companies Facebook, Instagram, Twitter
32:49
Speaker 7: to open a portal and give the access to that
32:51
Speaker 7: portal to.
32:52
Speaker 3: The FBI, the CIA, the IRS.
32:55
Speaker 7: De SISA, the NIH to censor his political critics. Because
33:00
Speaker 7: in Biden, for the first first president in history, used
33:03
Speaker 7: the secret his power over the Secret Service to deny
33:07
Speaker 7: Secret Service protection to one of his political opponents for
33:10
Speaker 7: political reasons. He's weaponizing a federal agencies. Those are really
33:16
Speaker 7: critical threats.
33:18
Speaker 6: Tried to overturn a free and fair election. He tried
33:21
Speaker 6: to overturn one. Right, is he still finding how is
33:25
Speaker 6: that not a threat to democracy?
33:28
Speaker 7: Well, I think that is a threat to democracy. Him
33:32
Speaker 7: over for trying to overthrow the election clearly is the
33:35
Speaker 7: threat democracy. But the question was who is the worse
33:39
Speaker 7: threat to democracy? And what I would say is, you know,
33:42
Speaker 7: I'm not going to answer that question, but I can
33:44
Speaker 7: argue that President Biden is because the First Amendment, Aaron
33:48
Speaker 7: is the most important. But Adams and Hamilton and Madison said,
33:53
Speaker 7: we put the guarantee of freedom expression in the First
33:55
Speaker 7: Amendment because all of our other constitutional sides depend on it.
33:59
Speaker 7: If you ever go the can silence its opponent, it
34:03
Speaker 7: has license for any atrocity.
34:05
Speaker 6: So, just to be clear, you're saying you could make
34:07
Speaker 6: an argument that President Biden is a worse threat to
34:08
Speaker 6: democracy than you.
34:10
Speaker 1: Listen to that senator and it's like they're like, well,
34:14
Speaker 1: hold on, this is not what you're supposed to say.
34:17
Speaker 1: This is not you were supposed to say Donald Trump
34:19
Speaker 1: orange Man's bad and a threat to democracy. Obviously you
34:23
Speaker 1: weren't supposed to say Joe Biden's actually a bigger threat.
34:27
Speaker 3: And by the way, explain exactly how he.
34:29
Speaker 2: Is warning Will Robinson, warning Will Robinson, danger danger, danger aboard,
34:34
Speaker 2: run away, run away. That's what CNN is saying. They're
34:37
Speaker 2: losing their minds. No, know that that's not the message.
34:40
Speaker 2: The only message we allow on CNN is Trump bad,
34:43
Speaker 2: Trump bad, Trump bad. You're RFK JR. Your dad was RFK,
34:47
Speaker 2: your uncle was JFK. You're supposed to echo our message Trump,
34:51
Speaker 2: orange man bad, orange man bad. Look. I got to
34:56
Speaker 2: say listening to that, I agree with every single word.
34:59
Speaker 2: Robert F. Kenn said right there, when it comes to
35:03
Speaker 2: a threat to democracy, number one, Joe Biden and for
35:06
Speaker 2: that matter, congressional Democrats are perfectly happy to use government
35:11
Speaker 2: power and big tech to censor you, to silence you,
35:15
Speaker 2: to prevent you from engaging in political speech, to prevent
35:18
Speaker 2: you from disagreeing with them. They want to use force
35:21
Speaker 2: to silence you. Secondly, he pointed out, Joe Biden is
35:24
Speaker 2: disgracefully denying Robert F. Kennedy Junior Secret Service protection that
35:29
Speaker 2: despite the fact that he is clearly pulling at the
35:32
Speaker 2: thresholds that would bearret that protection, that he is facing
35:36
Speaker 2: significant threats of political violence against him, and the tragic
35:42
Speaker 2: family history. His father was assassinated when he was running
35:46
Speaker 2: for president, his uncle was assassinated when he was president,
35:50
Speaker 2: and Joe Biden and the Democrats are cynical enough that
35:53
Speaker 2: they're willing to risk well, okay, if R. Fk Junior
35:56
Speaker 2: gets assassinated, that's a risk Joe Biden's willing to take.
35:59
Speaker 2: It is just dis graceful, and we've we've called that
36:02
Speaker 2: out on this on this podcast. Before that, of course,
36:05
Speaker 2: Joe Biden should give our FK Secret Service protection. That's
36:09
Speaker 2: following the law, that is consistent with the law, it's
36:12
Speaker 2: consistent with precedent, and the only reason not to is
36:17
Speaker 2: pure partisan politics. Let me say something else. Look, I
36:20
Speaker 2: have conversations with people all the time. I have conversations
36:24
Speaker 2: with people today where they make comments about, Gosh, I'm
36:28
Speaker 2: worried if Trump wins. He's an authoritarian, he's a dictator.
36:32
Speaker 2: I'm worried what he will do. And you know, my
36:34
Speaker 2: standard response is is listen, I understand that. And sometimes
36:39
Speaker 2: Trump has rhetoric that can be used to suggest that.
36:46
Speaker 3: Uh.
36:46
Speaker 2: That being said, we don't have to hypothesize what Trump
36:51
Speaker 2: will do as president. He was president for four years
36:55
Speaker 2: and if you look at the time he was president,
36:58
Speaker 2: he didn't abuse his power. He followed the law. If
37:01
Speaker 2: you look at the policies he implemented, and I worked
37:04
Speaker 2: hand in hand with Donald Trump, the policies he implemented worked.
37:07
Speaker 2: We saw the lowest unemployment race in fifty years. We
37:10
Speaker 2: saw the lowest African American unemployment ever recorded. We saw
37:13
Speaker 2: the lowest Hispanic unemployment ever recorded. We saw peace and prosperity.
37:18
Speaker 2: We saw the border secured, we saw peace breaking out
37:21
Speaker 2: in the Middle East, and the Abraham Accords. All of
37:23
Speaker 2: that played out. And if you look at what Trump did,
37:26
Speaker 2: he didn't defy the law. He didn't ignore the law.
37:29
Speaker 2: He didn't issue lawless executive orders. He followed the law. Now,
37:32
Speaker 2: he demonstrated courage. He made decisions that were bold, but
37:36
Speaker 2: they were within the law. Contrast that to Joe Biden.
37:40
Speaker 2: Joe Biden, number one is responsible for profoundly politicizing the
37:44
Speaker 2: Department of Justice of the FBI. Number two is responsible
37:48
Speaker 2: for the greatest assault on democracy we've ever seen, which
37:51
Speaker 2: is the four indictments of Donald Trump, the abuse of
37:54
Speaker 2: the legal process design. Mind you, Trump is not the target,
38:00
Speaker 2: voters of the target. They're terrified the voters will vote
38:03
Speaker 2: for Trump, and they're trying to prosecute for the first
38:06
Speaker 2: time in history, and the second time in history, and
38:08
Speaker 2: the third time in history, and the fourth time in history,
38:10
Speaker 2: a former president and a leading presidential candidate because they
38:15
Speaker 2: want to stop democracy from playing out. To be clear, also,
38:18
Speaker 2: these are the same Democrats that in Colorado, in Illinois
38:22
Speaker 2: and Maine threw Donald Trump off the ballot because you know.
38:25
Speaker 2: Nothing says defending democracy like stopping the damn voters from
38:29
Speaker 2: voting for the person you don't want them to. This
38:32
Speaker 2: is Democrats. And let's be clear also, Joe Biden when
38:36
Speaker 2: it comes to being a dictator to being lawless. Look
38:40
Speaker 2: at what he's doing on the southern border. He's utterly
38:42
Speaker 2: ignoring federal immigration law. He's releasing people into this country.
38:45
Speaker 2: He's releasing criminals into this country. He's endangering this country
38:49
Speaker 2: ten point four million illegal immigrants. It is lawless. No
38:52
Speaker 2: president has ever done this. Barack Obama didn't do this.
38:56
Speaker 2: Bill Clinton didn't do this, Jimmy Carter didn't do this.
38:59
Speaker 2: Only Joe Biden is brazenly lawless. Let's be clear also
39:04
Speaker 2: when it came to student loans, Joe Biden trying to
39:07
Speaker 2: buy votes, tried to give away trillion dollars, a trillion
39:10
Speaker 2: dollars just in an effort to buy votes and win elections. Now,
39:13
Speaker 2: a president can't give away a trillion dollars without Congress
39:17
Speaker 2: passing legislation to do so. Joe Biden knows that the
39:20
Speaker 2: lawyers of his administration know that they didn't care. They
39:23
Speaker 2: wanted to lawlessly be political, and so of course what
39:26
Speaker 2: happened to The Supreme Court struck it down and said, no,
39:30
Speaker 2: the president doesn't have the ability to give away a
39:31
Speaker 2: trillion dollars just to buy votes. By the way, same
39:34
Speaker 2: thing happened with COVID vaccine mandates, utterly lawless, abusive, trying
39:38
Speaker 2: to force people to get COVID vaccines. The president had
39:41
Speaker 2: no authority to do it. Biden administration did so anyway,
39:44
Speaker 2: what happened The Supreme Court struck it down, said this
39:47
Speaker 2: is lawless, this is not the federal law. You look
39:51
Speaker 2: at who actually has been lawless and dictatorial, And I
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