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[BxBD] Wilder beats Chisora, Zuffa 5 is actually good, and Tim Tszyu's return · Boxing B-Sides

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This shit ain't nothing to me, man. This is Boxing
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Before Dark. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Back. Back.
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Back. Back. Back. Before. Before. Before. Before.
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Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing Before Dark. This
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is Boxing Before Dark. Alright, I think that's
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a good... Starting point. That's a good demarcation.
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Let me see. Let me get a little tomato juice.
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A little spicy tomato juice. That's nice. Yeah.
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All right. Boxing before dark. Holy shit. We're
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back to talk the fights. Shanada, how goes it
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out in the besieged? Japan. Besieged. Yeah. Actually,
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we got hit with like a big storm yesterday. It
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was a bit fucked. Like torrential downpours and
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super wind. I stayed at work late because the
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buses weren't really running. And now you're
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getting bombed by bad air quality. Yeah. Yeah.
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The pollution's bad today. And I'm going to Tokyo
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to watch. Tension lose. It's going to be great.
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I'm sure it'll be a good time. I've been practicing
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my Spanish cheers. Oh, what do you got? Well,
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I corrected it from Vamanos to Vamos. Yeah, Vamos
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Gallo. Yeah, that's it. I've been practicing
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not saying Gallo. Yeah, I noticed Josh has the
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same problem with the double L's, which for you,
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that's understandable. But for him, like, come
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on, bro, you know better. Yeah. Speaking of knowing
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better, Ichiro Suzuki, completely unrelated.
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He had a statue revealed at the Mariners stadium
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and the bat on his statue fucking broke on the
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reveal. Are you kidding me? Like, what is this
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statue made out of? Fucking bronze spray painted
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tinfoil? How do you make a statue that breaks?
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Well, so let's just say, for the sake of argument,
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that it survives the reveal. What happens in
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inclement weather? What's going to happen to
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this thing? Yeah. It's just going to get blown
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over. It is a nice statue before it got broken,
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though. Like, a lot of sports statues look like
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shit. But this one actually looks like his face.
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Yeah. Deontay Wilder's statue. It looks good
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until you get to the face. Yeah. But did you
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see that they made broken bat statue handouts
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for the next home game? Broken bat handouts?
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You know how you get shit? Yeah, like little
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helmets and stuff. Yeah, it's like a bobblehead
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-sized recreation of the statue with the broken
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bat. Perfect. That's how you lean into it. Yeah.
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You just gotta own it. Yeah. And I do feel bad
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for Ichiro, but he seems like the type of guy
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that will see it as funny. Yeah, he seems like
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a good -natured person. Yeah, yeah. So if it
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has to happen to anyone, at least it didn't happen
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to somebody who would take it serious. Someone
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who's a dickhead? Yeah, I don't watch that much
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baseball, but I'm sure there's lots of dickheads
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that would be really angry about it. Shall we
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get into the boxing news? Yes. All right. Two
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survey um it's my i want to gauge how people
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Boxing Revival Act, to his credit, Nico Ali Walsh
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bsides. So, with all that shit out of the way,
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there is a rumor. PBC is going to DAZN. That
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would have everybody on DAZN, right? Yes. Other
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than Zufa? Like, literally everybody who's anybody?
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All the major players besides Zufa. That would
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be good, I think. Having everybody in the same
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place, paying for one subscription. I know DAZN
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sucks, and they're a bunch of dicks, and I just
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found out how much it costs in the US, and that's
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crazy. But if they have all of the boxing. Speaking
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as someone... who may or may not pay already
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for DAZN Ultimate, if PBC came into the fold,
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all that is is gravy on top of it for me. Yeah.
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We had talked about it previously, and I had
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just jokingly threw out $50 for all of the organizations
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under one umbrella, and that's kind of what it
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is right now. So if PPC joined, like, fuck yeah,
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I'm here for it. Yeah, and DAZN seems to be,
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at least right now, trying to push the cross
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-promotion a little bit. Yes, we'll get to that
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in a moment. Yeah. Anyways, I don't know. I had
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DAZN in Canada, but it's really expensive compared
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to Japan. I'll probably get it back because of
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the boxing. But also, apparently DAZN Ultimate
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is not really a thing in Canada. Yeah, that's
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right. You had talked about how somebody paid
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for it thinking it included the pay -per -views.
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And it does not in Canada. That completely defeats
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the purpose. Yep. You get better resolution in
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something. That's it? Better resolution? You
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can watch on more screens. Who the fuck cares
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about that? Nobody has friends. What the fuck
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are you talking about? Well, if you're taking
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away the pay -per -views, then it does... It
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would, because I can share with my brother -in
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-law or somebody. Like, here, you can log into
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my account and we can watch it at the same time.
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Yeah. But it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't
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let you do it for pay -per -views because they're
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dicks. Yeah, that happened with a PBC pay -per
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-view where I tried to share that one with somebody
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and we just kept locking each other out of it.
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So that was fun. Sorry. I was trying to find
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the thing, but they won't let me look at the
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Canadian prices from Japan. Y 'all, you have
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the VPN for that. Yeah. Dicks. Ade, the host,
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one of the primary hosts on DAZN, he's staying
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on DAZN. So I think it's nice. It's nice to have
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the continuity. I don't mind him. He doesn't
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do a lot of like... commentary he's more yeah
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he does interviews and stuff like that yeah he
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kind of mostly just introduces people right yeah
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for the most part i don't mind him do they still
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have ak and barack i don't know they don't i
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don't get any of the talk shows in japan i guess
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because they're in english they don't put them
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up i haven't heard them mentioned in quite some
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time So, I couldn't say. I used to like those
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guys. They did a short podcast thing. Yeah, I've
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been thinking about looking at something like
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that. Like a short 15 to 20 minutes. 15, 30 minutes
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tops of a daily, like, this is the rundown of
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the news kind of stuff. But, yeah. Needs a...
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A lot more planning. Yeah. Still just an idea
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in my brain. Speaking of ideas in the brain,
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coming to life. Zufa Boxing 6. This is scheduled
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for mid -May. And the main card is thus. Shane
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Mosley Jr. vs. Sergei Bohachuk at middleweight.
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Julian Rodriguez vs. James Perea at Welter. Misael
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Rodriguez vs. Andreas Katsourakis at Middleweight.
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Shane Molesley Jr. vs. Boa Chuck might be fun.
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That's not a bad fight. It's about the level
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they're at. Yeah, Sergei's just getting too old
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and shopworn. Shop one more than anything. Like,
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fighting the way he does? Yeah. He just takes
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a fucking ass beating every fight. Yeah, win
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or lose. Even when he wins, yeah. I don't think
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I know who James Perea is. The only other one
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that I'm familiar with on the undercard, or the
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rest of the main portion here, is Katsurakis.
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He was on overtime. I think he won the bracket
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once or twice. Is that Crazy A? No. Crazy A just
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won. We'll be talking about him later. I'm so
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bad at names. Well, with a name like Andreas
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Katsourakis, it's like you would think that's
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something you could shorten to Crazy A. I don't
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know this guy. I don't think. Well, you can turn
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in your hardcore credentials because you clearly
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weren't watching overtime with the rest of us.
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How much does he weigh, Leo? He was fighting
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at 154. Way too big. Okay, well. You guys can
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talk about him on B -side. Which we will. Well,
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speaking of Zufa, Edgar Berlenga and Richardson
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Hitchens. Officially announced as part of the
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Zufa family. Isn't Hitchens the IBF title holder?
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At 140. Which doesn't exist at Zufa? Correct.
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Excellent. What the fuck is he doing? Yes. I
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don't understand. Dropping the belt and going
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up a weight class? Drop five pounds or gain seven.
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Chances are he's going up. Hitchens not going
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to drop five pounds. No way in hell. Still, though,
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it's like what? How are you going to be a title
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holder at one of the in -betweeners that and
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you're going to an organization that explicitly
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does not recognize one, your weight class to
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your title? Yeah. I don't know. I think this
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is a weird fucking move. It makes sense for Berlanga.
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I think it does. Yeah, he's like super pardon
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the pun, he's super mid. And now he's going to
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Zufa where he can be like a big fish in a fucking
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mud puddle. Fair enough. But like But Erlenga
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has a chance at more belts. He has a chance at
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shots because of his name. You are correct. Like...
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I suppose they're just paying more. Which is
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probably the answer for both of these. But Hitchens
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pisses me off. You have a belt. Just stay and
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play with the big boys. Like, don't fuck off
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into your little small pond. And then act like
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you're the big deal that everyone needs to come
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to me. You need to come see me. No, you're not
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that big of a name. You might have held the title,
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but you're not that big of a deal. Have you seen
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the video where it's the little dog in the fence
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barking at the big dog and then they automatically
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open the gate? But as the gate's opening, the
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dog stays behind the gate. And then barks from
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behind the fence with the open gate beside it.
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That's fucking Hitchens. And then he goes and
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hides behind the Zufa fence. Well, Berlanga got
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a ten, not ten figure, eight figure deal. I think
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it's ten mil. Okay, that's a lot of money. I
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would go to Zufa for 10 mil probably. For a year?
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Well, yeah. They get to leave. It's a one -year
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deal. It's a one -year deal. For one year, 10
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mil? I'll play stupid for you. Yeah. I don't
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mind. Yes, my soul has a price. How did Connor
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Ben get 1 .5 times as much as Edgar Berlinga?
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That is a question that I cannot answer. I'm
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just saying. Yeah, you're on something there.
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You're onto something there. I'm not the one
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that's on something. Yeah, no. Clearly not. One
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more thing before we get to the bigger topic.
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Amanda Serrano will be facing Cheyenne Hansen
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on May 30th. So that's cool. Which one's Cheyenne
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Hansen? No idea, to be honest. Box rec. Oh, I've
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seen her before. She had pink hair for a while.
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Yeah. Anyways. She's not very good. Amanda Serrano's
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gonna beat the piss out of her. I think. Although
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Serrano looked not so good her last fight too.
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Not as good as she usually does. Yeah. Her last
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fight did leave a bit to be desired. I was wondering
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if it was the three minute round change that
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was doing it. Possibly. So, you know, it's a
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new, it's an adjustment. So we'll see if, I think
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MVP is going to try to push that as much as they
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can. They tried to do it on their recent card.
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Yeah, it's going to be hard. A lot of places
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just don't allow it. Oh, speaking of two minute
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rounds, have we talked about who's the giant
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guy? Eddie Hall? Tommy Fury. Yeah, it's fucking
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two minute rounds. Wonderful. I think that's
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hilarious. Wonderful. Yeah. And the billing of
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Beauty and the Beast is kind of hilarious, actually.
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I didn't plan to put any time into it, just because
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I... We talk about some silly shit here, but
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there's a level of silly that even I don't want
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to go to. I'm sure we'll end up bringing it up
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on B -sides at the very least. I guess I took
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us down into the mud. I think it's funny that
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they're two -minute rounds. Yes, that is an interesting...
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Like, Eddie Hall has done... MMA five -minute
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rounds. And Tommy is a real boxer. Whether you
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think he's any good or not, he's done three -minute
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rounds. His whole career. Yeah. Even with Jake
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Paul. Yeah. I don't know. Stupid, but whatever.
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Last bit. DAZN launches... The series is called
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The Fight. This will be on DAZN, of course, but
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it's also going to be on terrestrial television,
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as the Brits call it. Linear TV, over -the -air
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TV. It's going to be on TNT. And no TNT still
20:26
existed. I didn't either. Apparently, once the
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Warner Brothers debacle of where they were going
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to land, once that got settled, this pretty much
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followed right away. Nice. So that's cool. What's
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the series about? It's going to be like a...
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a boxing card but it's specifically gonna be
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like the bigger fights that that are cross promo
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ah okay nice get some old folks that are flipping
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through the channels yeah exactly i dig it i
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wonder if my parents still get tnt uh if they
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have cable satellite probably Yeah, the satellite,
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it depends on how well you can align it. Yeah,
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it depends on the weather and everything. Yeah.
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Yeah, I remember. Do you got anything more for
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the news, though? No. Oh, well, I guess. It was
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Inoue's birthday. Naoya Inoue's birthday. Oh,
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shit. Yesterday. He turned 33. 33. I think it's
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410. Oh, 410 for you. Yesterday for you. Yeah.
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So I guess it's still his birthday where you
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are. Yes. Did you send him a gift? No, but he
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put up a thing. His wife got him made like a
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super cute cake that said happy birthday and
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had like his picture on it. And a giant fucking
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bouquet of flowers. Like they're as big as Inouye
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is. The Instagram post is really cute. You should
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go check it out. Well, we do have a little bit
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of time here. Let's have a look. Inoue. Like
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Inoue 410? Yeah. Yeah, which is his birthday.
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It might be Naoya 410. Yeah, you're right. It's
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Naoya Inoue 410. Yeah, that is a massive fucking
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bouquet of flowers. Yeah. Holy shit. And I don't
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know how much of that cake he can eat. Because
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he's probably on the start of... Cut? Yeah. Yeah.
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Maybe the strawberries. Maybe. I think he actually
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eats a lot of cake when he's training anyways.
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And he eats cake in the dressing room before
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the fights. Like little Castellas? Sugar Rush,
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maybe. I think he just likes sweets. I was trying
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to give him the benefit of, like, I was intellectualizing
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his love of cake. He needs the glucose for his
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brain synapses. Yeah, look at you. Doctorizing
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it. Alright. Well, The other Instagram thing,
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everyone should go look at Hiroto Kyoguchi's
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Instagram because he did a super cute visit to
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Yudai Shigeoka's cafe and gives you a little
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tour of the surrounding area in pictures. Excellent.
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Starting with, quickly, Treasure Boxing 12. This
28:43
was at Gorakuen Hall. Only two that I wanted
28:47
to point out. Marlon Topoles drops the ball,
28:51
loses a UD to Yukinori Oguni. I was surprised,
28:56
but not sad. I really like Oguni, but I thought
29:00
Topalas was going to beat him. I thought so,
29:03
too. That was the expectation. And then WBO,
29:09
WBA, light flyweight champ Rene Santiago gets
29:13
the job done over Masataka Taniguchi. Yeah, Santiago
29:20
was just better. Did what he does. Yeah, which
29:28
is somehow like he never looks like he's that
29:33
much more skilled, but he just lands more effective
29:37
punches. That'll get you the scorecards. Yeah,
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yeah. Like, I'm not saying he shouldn't have
29:46
won. But it annoys me that he doesn't look like
29:50
he's better than people. Oh, okay. I see. You
29:52
know what I mean? Yeah, I see the line you're
29:54
trying to draw there. Like, he looks like they
29:58
should be able to beat him. And he's not particularly
30:03
good at anything. But somehow he just keeps winning.
30:09
Which is all that matters. It annoys me. Also,
30:13
he just keeps coming to Japan and beating up
30:15
people I like. Oh, boy. Matchroom on DAZN at
30:22
Planet Ice Altrincham. What do we got here? Just
30:29
the co -main William Krala gets the win in seven,
30:34
looking like absolute dog shit on his way to
30:38
doing so over Glenn Byrne. Byrne, I think it
30:42
is. And Pat Brown stops Vasil Dusar in eight.
30:48
Pat Brown is a British Olympian. And now he's
30:55
a touted cruiserweight prospect. So that's cool.
31:00
Cruiserweight prospect is such a bad phrase.
31:06
Manny Pacquiao promotions. at the Pechanga Resort
31:12
and Casino in San Diego. All I really wanted
31:15
to point out, Pedro Tataran stops Gustavo Perez
31:19
in seven to retain his IBF minimum weight title.
31:26
At least one of the Filipinos is winning. Yeah,
31:30
the other one got blue -balled. Yeah, well, Topalas
31:36
is Filipino, right? Oh, yeah. I was thinking
31:40
of Jerusalem. Yeah, the minimum weight. I realized
31:43
I worded that poorly. I like Pedro Tataran. I
31:49
think he's good. I think he needs to fight Collazo
31:52
again. Shaking my... Nodding my head in agreement.
31:57
Saturday, April 4th. We are going to start with,
32:01
really quickly, Boxer. The only one that I was
32:05
going to point out was Lorne Price. Bloodied
32:08
and bruised still wins a UD over Stephanie Aquino.
32:13
I didn't watch any of this. No worries, because
32:18
we are rolling on. Queensberry on the zone at
32:22
the O2 Arena. What do I got here? Denzel Bentley
32:29
got a nice stoppage over Endry Saavedra. Those
32:34
are the only ones that really stood out. But
32:37
there's a lot of good stoppages. Ashton Silva,
32:41
UD over Raul Galavis. And in the co -main, Vidal
32:47
Riley, UD over Mateus Masternek. In the main
32:52
event, Deontay Wilder. Split decision over Derek
32:57
Chisora. This was such a shit fight, Leo. I know.
33:04
It was fucking awful. It was so bad. I can't
33:09
believe they made this card pay -per -view. They're
33:13
just fucking robbing people. The Discord rivalry
33:21
was more fun than this fight was. 100%. Yeah.
33:27
This fight was such dog shit. I pay for DAZN
33:34
Ultimate, so, like, I can't really talk. But
33:37
the money that I would have paid on a pay -per
33:39
-view? Like, God. Goddamn. Well, it was what?
33:47
Like, 50 bucks? Was it? Yeah. I don't know, because
33:52
it just shows up as a purchase for me. I don't
33:55
know what the prices are. I'm pretty sure here
33:58
it was about $30. But I'm pretty sure in America
34:01
it was $50. Wow. That is certainly a choice.
34:08
That's fucking highway robbery. But this was
34:13
so dog shit. People falling out of the ring.
34:16
Wilder's a whiny bitch about everything. The
34:19
referee sucked. The corners were helping people
34:23
up and coming in the ring. Deontay Wilder told
34:28
Derek Chisora, he had him backed into a corner
34:32
and he said, are you ready? I love you. And then
34:35
he waited for Derek to say it back. And then
34:38
he said, I love you again. And then he started,
34:40
he knocked him out of the ring after that. So
34:46
fucking cringy and stupid. That's not boxing.
34:50
That's fucking WWE. The after effects of the
34:57
ayahuasca trip continue to demonstrate themselves.
35:02
Yeah. And he's been going on every interview,
35:07
sidewalk camera, whatever, telling people that
35:11
Chizora was hitting him in the back of the head
35:14
and it's damaged him. I'm putting up my best
35:19
facial expression of, like, what the fuck? What
35:23
the fuck? What? Yeah. I've seen, like, four or
35:30
five times. Didn't he in the post -fight say
35:32
he was having trouble seeing because of the punches
35:34
to the back of the head? I stopped paying attention
35:37
once the fight was over. It was such dog shit.
35:40
The only thing I... I fell asleep. Yeah. Completely.
35:45
Not a surprise. The only thing that I caught
35:48
post -fight was Deontay interviewed Derek's daughter.
35:59
And he's like, what did I tell you? And then
36:02
she's like, I don't know. And then he's like,
36:05
I told you you should be proud of your daddy.
36:08
Such a weird. It was a weird move. Deontay, he's
36:14
a weird cat. Yeah. Yeah. He's like on Piers Morgan
36:24
talking about ejaculating on his woman's stomach.
36:31
Yeah, and her using it to inseminate herself.
36:35
Why? Why? Nobody's that... desperate for your
36:46
baby number one there's no fucking way man like
36:51
number two nobody fucking cares yeah even if
36:55
it is true nobody asked nobody fucking nobody
36:58
asked oh man there was a lot of comedic value
37:06
that was drawn from this event the the entirety
37:11
of the event not just the fight itself But Chizora
37:16
did retire, right? Like, actually, for real?
37:19
I fucking hope so. He said he was done. He said
37:21
in the post -fight conference, he said, I'm tired.
37:26
I'm just really tired. I can't keep doing this,
37:31
that type of thing. What's the Green Mile quote?
37:35
I'm tired, boss. I'm tired, boss. That's about
37:39
all you can really take away from the fight,
37:41
the comedic value. Don't watch the fight. Just
37:46
watch the interviews around the fight. Be like
37:51
me before I was able to watch wrestling pay -per
37:57
-views. You just watch the lead -up, and then
38:00
you watch the after, and that's about it. Figure
38:04
out what happened. Yeah, you figure out what
38:05
happened. Hearing about busting on your chick's
38:10
stomach for whatever fucking reason. Damel could
38:18
not stop bringing it up. That does not surprise
38:22
me. It's pretty damn funny. He and someone else,
38:28
I don't remember who, but there's two people
38:30
that could not stop bringing up the... Saul.
38:33
I would bet money on it being Saul. Nutting on
38:35
the stomach. Jesus Christ, man. He should have
38:42
finished on the back and then she couldn't have
38:45
reached it. Sorry, inappropriate. Wilder started
38:50
it. Moving to PBC on Prime. This was in Australia,
39:02
Wollongong, Australia, in New South Wales. Only
39:08
ones that I caught, Sam Goodman got a UD over
39:11
Rodrigo Ruiz. It was fine. And Tim Zhu, UD over
39:19
Dennis Nuria. He got a big, big cut on one of
39:25
his cheekbones. It was pretty nasty. Yeah, he
39:30
didn't seem so upset by it this time. Well, I
39:36
mean, it was not in the worst place, and his
39:39
corner was taking care of it. No, but... That
39:45
first fight after Fundora, where he didn't even
39:49
get cut and he was wiping and stuff. Oh, I see
39:52
what you mean. Like, it didn't seem to mentally
39:55
fuck him up, which I thought it might. Just the
40:01
blood being there, maybe. Yeah, like, it happened
40:05
again. Yeah, they asked him. But it didn't seem
40:08
to bother him. They asked him and he was like,
40:10
no, this one... The team was taking care of it,
40:14
and it was in a more manageable spot. It wasn't
40:18
directly in his eyes. Right. He wasn't gushing
40:21
fucking blood into his own eyes. Gross. Yeah.
40:26
Well, what are you going to do? That's boxing.
40:33
Rolling on. Sunday, April 5th. First thing. MVPW.
40:41
Number one. This was in London. From the bottom
40:46
up, I watched the whole thing so that you don't
40:49
have to. We're going to stop at Irma Garcia.
40:54
Stops Emma Dolan in three. Emma, shaking my head,
41:00
did not belong in the same ring. That happens
41:05
a lot in women's boxing. You are correct. Ellie
41:11
Scottney becomes undisputed at Super Bantamweight,
41:15
claiming Mayeli Flores, claiming her WBA title.
41:21
So that's fun. So does she have all of them now?
41:26
She does now, yes. Nice. And Caroline Dubois
41:30
unifies the WBC and WBO titles by beating Terry
41:35
Harper. How did Terry Harper look? I didn't watch
41:39
this card at all. Not great. Yeah, I've been
41:42
thinking she's been looking worse and worse.
41:44
It might be time for Terry to retire. Is she?
41:49
Yeah. She's a lot younger than you think she
41:51
is. A lot younger. Really? Because she fucking
41:54
looks... 100%. She looks fucking old as shit.
41:57
She is 29. No way! Yeah. She looked fucking ancient.
42:04
Yeah. Like her face, the way that she fought.
42:09
I did this a couple fights ago with her. I was
42:13
like, how fucking old is she? Because I always
42:16
think she's about the same age as Katie Taylor.
42:20
I thought so too. But no, Terry Harper's not
42:25
even 30 yet. Somebody, I saw a post on Instagram.
42:33
I think it was from Terry Harper where somebody
42:36
asked her, like, hey, do you want to become a
42:39
real star? You can join our stable and we'll
42:44
make you into a real star. Do you realize that
42:49
she just had a unified title fight? Yeah, she's
42:54
already a star. Terry Harper is one of the biggest
42:56
names. Not, like, not anymore, but there was
43:00
a time when Terry Harper was, like, top five
43:03
women boxer in the world. How old is Chantel
43:06
Cameron? Because that might be who I'm thinking
43:08
of in age. She's 34. Well, Harper's been fighting
43:13
forever. She debuted, let me check, in 2017.
43:19
Woof. So she's been fighting for... Yeah, she's
43:25
been fighting for nine years. That's why we think
43:28
she's old. She just debuted really young for
43:32
a lady. Anyways, I kind of feel like Terry Harper
43:36
needs to start considering retirement. Yeah,
43:41
start thinking about it. Well, that too. Oh,
43:44
you mean like training other people? Yes. Okay.
43:47
I thought you meant like... Training herself?
43:50
Consider shit. Yeah. No, I meant like start looking
43:53
at other lines of work, like maybe being a trainer.
43:58
Yeah, I just feel like she's gone downhill. Caroline
44:04
Dubois is on the way up, though. I think Caroline
44:09
Dubois has been looking really good. She has
44:12
been. The talk is her versus Alicia Baumgartner.
44:16
That could be fun. I think so, too. I think Alicia
44:21
will want that at three minutes. I would be surprised
44:24
if Caroline does not take that at three minutes.
44:30
She's got the fucking unction. Yeah, yeah. I
44:35
don't think Caroline cares about the three minutes.
44:42
Oh, last thing. Zufa 5 on Paramount+. This, it...
44:52
Is difficult to admit, but this was actually
44:55
a pretty damn good undercard. Troy Nash looked
45:00
fucking awesome. I'm not sure how somebody arrived
45:03
at a draw scorecard. I don't know how you got
45:07
that, but let me have your job because you clearly
45:12
don't know how to fucking do it. Jorge Maravillo.
45:18
This was like a... Comeback of the year contender.
45:26
He was getting his ass pieced up and then just
45:30
sparks him. It was nice. I love those. I'll have
45:36
to go find this one. I didn't watch the prelims.
45:38
The time here just doesn't work. Tony Hirsch
45:43
gets upset of the year contender over Robert
45:47
Merriweather. He just had the fucking fire. In
45:52
his gut. And he got the job done. He put in that
45:56
work. It was nice. Meriwether is a bit of a flop.
46:01
He is. For these guys. Isn't he? They were really
46:04
pushing him that first couple cards. Him and
46:07
Troy Nash were like the dynamic duo. Yeah. And
46:12
he has not performed as well as they wanted.
46:16
And who's the... The really not good guy that
46:20
they had headline. Callum something? Callum Walsh.
46:23
Yeah. He's been a flop as well. Like, a bunch
46:27
of their young, hot prospects are not working
46:30
out well for Zufa so far. Troy Nash? Absolutely
46:34
living up to it. I can say that much. Maravillo?
46:41
A lot of question marks. Because, like, he was
46:44
getting pieced up before he got that come from
46:46
behind. One hitter. Yeah. Troy Hirsch. He's still
46:52
undefeated. 7 -0 -2. So you could prop him up
46:57
in Robert Merriweather's place. Moving up, Alex
47:03
de la Cerda. Knockout of the year contender over
47:06
Irvin Fuller. To finish off the prelims. Seriously,
47:11
this was a really good card. I'll put it on for
47:14
you if you want. They're on YouTube, right? They
47:19
might be for you. Yeah. I'll check on YouTube.
47:22
Yeah, let me know if you need it. I'll throw
47:25
it on. It's just it's Monday morning. Oh, yeah.
47:33
So, I had to go to work. Imagine that. I did
47:38
watch the main card at my desk, but the prelims
47:43
I couldn't justify. Crazy A, Azad Hovenissian,
47:48
majority decision over Eduardo Baez. What did
47:52
you think of this one? Did you have like a strong
47:55
feeling one way or the other? I didn't. No. I
48:00
didn't think Crazy A would have enough left in
48:03
him. Like, but he did. I don't know. I was just
48:08
not what I expected, but also kind of a fun fight
48:12
to watch. Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
48:14
Not quite what I expected. I honestly thought
48:17
Baez might have done enough to get the win, but
48:20
majority decision, like, it can't be too upset.
48:25
It was a really close fight. Yeah, it was. It
48:28
was really competitive. I'm surprised that Crazy
48:30
A was able to keep up. I thought this was going
48:33
to be, like, one of, this, to me, was one of
48:35
those, like, bet the under, bet the underdog
48:38
here. Yeah. Well, like, because Crazy A's just
48:43
getting old. He's as old as we are. I know that
48:47
for a fact. He's as old as we are. You know who
48:51
does get it done? Mark Maxayo. Retires Fiergal
48:55
McCrory. He beat the piss out of that poor boy.
48:58
He sure did. He sure did. That was not a good
49:05
matchup. Fiora was so mad, but dude, like, your
49:12
corner's saving you. Perhaps a slightly soft
49:17
saving, I guess. Towels. He wasn't... Yeah, but
49:22
like, he's right. He wasn't, like, completely
49:26
fucked and couldn't throw any punches. But dude,
49:29
you haven't landed anything significant this
49:31
whole fight. And you're just getting the piss
49:35
beat out of you. You're gonna take five. To throw,
49:39
not necessarily land, to throw one. Yeah. Like,
49:44
I thought Magzile looked good. He did. He looked
49:47
fantastic. Yeah. Going up in weight was the right
49:51
move for him, for sure. I fear this is, he's
49:58
going to be, he's like a big fish in a smaller
50:01
pond. No. Let me take that back, because they
50:04
do have Edwin De Los Santos, they have Rayo Valenzuela.
50:09
That weight class is pretty strong at Zufa. Yes,
50:12
they do have a good weight class here. So, Mexayo,
50:16
you're coming into some solid competition. This
50:20
might be a Zufa title that I would consider comparable
50:24
to the IBO. Yeah, I... fuck the Zufa titles,
50:31
but whoever's holding it with all these guys
50:35
in the mix, their reputation will go up because
50:39
of who they beat, not because they have the fucking
50:41
Zufa belt. Correct. Correct. I agree. That's
50:49
why I say the Zufa title would be like the IBO.
50:54
It's secondary, but you did have to beat some
50:58
good people to get there yeah i you just don't
51:04
want to give credit to the zufa title no but
51:08
like you can't pick one title from an organization
51:13
that means something either the zufa belts mean
51:19
something or they don't okay like you're you're
51:23
choosing this weight class but that belt doesn't
51:27
really mean anything it just means that they
51:29
fought those guys i see i see that's that's a
51:35
good point i see okay like you can't say that
51:38
it means something at 135 or whatever the fuck
51:42
this is but it doesn't mean anything at 171 47
51:46
yeah yeah like that's not how titles work to
51:51
me at least the belt matters or it doesn't yeah
51:55
for everybody that who has an opportunity to
51:59
win it yeah in any weight class like it either
52:03
means something everywhere or it means nothing
52:06
okay i can dig it but uh in the main event This
52:15
was a fucking bummer. Andres Cortez versus Erickson
52:18
Garcia. Andres gets the UD. Looking... Dog shit.
52:26
He was fine. I'm really trying to be respectful
52:30
about it. He was fine. He got the job done. Did
52:39
he? It was fine. It was fine, I guess. It was
52:46
fine. That's all I got. They should have left
52:49
Mark Magzio as the main event. He should have
52:52
been the main event from the beginning. They
52:55
always had Cortez. What a mistake. But, oh well.
53:01
Zufa's mistakes. I never interrupt your enemy
53:04
while they make a mistake. This is true. So,
53:08
let us get some more notes in here before we
53:11
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did you think of Zufa 5? What did you think of
53:19
Mark Maxayo? What did you think of Crazy A? 833
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53:26
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53:29
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58:40
a developmental card, so you don't necessarily
58:44
have to worry about missing it. But if you can,
58:47
always support boxing. Let's see. MVPW number
58:52
two. This is at the MSG Theater. Looking up the
58:58
build. Not a whole lot going on until we get
59:00
to Shadesha Green. The IBFWBO super middleweight
59:05
champ versus Lonnie Daniels. And Alicia Baumgartner
59:11
versus Bo Mi Re Shin. Who is only ranked in the
59:17
WBO at number five. Do you think people sing
59:21
her name a lot? Bomi Raeshing? Bomi Raeshing.
59:27
Bomi Raeshing. WBO. Yeah. Yeah, that's how it
59:35
goes. That's an interesting Korean name. I haven't
59:40
seen Korean names that look like that. Four syllables.
59:44
Yeah, and just like short and apart. I don't
59:49
know how to say it. Like it's, you know, usually
59:52
like Yongjin or something. But that's it for
59:58
the MVP card. Not a whole lot doing. Saturday,
1:00:03
April 18th. Our hearts go out to this card because,
1:00:07
man, it got crippled. Let's see. From the bottom
1:00:13
up, just to list them, as of this particular
1:00:16
moment, it is currently 1831 on April 10th. Fucking
1:00:23
army time. It's the 24 -hour clock. Army time.
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Everyone uses it. Everyone who matters uses it.
1:00:32
Wow. I matter, Leo. That was a jab. Leo Atang
1:00:42
is TBA as of this moment. Molly McCann versus
1:00:49
Ashley Johnson. That's an eight rounder at Super
1:00:53
Bantamweight. Joe McRail versus Aaron Hayden.
1:00:57
Ten rounder at Super Bantam. Peter McRail versus
1:01:01
Kari Kani Mansilla. Mansilla? I'm saying Mansilla.
1:01:08
He's from Argentina. It's probably Mancia. Excellent.
1:01:12
10 rounder at Super Bantamweight. And the new
1:01:16
main event. Ben Whittaker versus Brian Suarez.
1:01:21
What the fuck is happening? Okay. So this guy
1:01:29
is also Argentinian. Yes. Argentinian. I keep
1:01:32
saying it wrong. He is an Argentine. Yes. He
1:01:36
is from. Nope, my brain broke looking at it again.
1:01:40
He is from Argentina. I keep wanting to say Argentia,
1:01:45
and I know that's the wrong place. Anyways, the
1:01:50
Brits have gotten so scared of Mexico that they
1:01:54
found a new country to import their B -sides
1:01:57
from. They picked the wrong fucking one. They
1:02:01
picked the wrong fucking country again, but...
1:02:04
Oh, we'll get the Mexicans for cheap. That's
1:02:08
not working. We'll get the Argentines for cheap.
1:02:11
That's not going to work, puppy. That's not going
1:02:12
to work out. That's not how it goes. But that's
1:02:16
been so many Argentines on the last... Brit cards.
1:02:20
Like, three Brit cards. Right? Yeah, you're right.
1:02:24
I'm not crazy here? No, I think you found a nice
1:02:28
little Easter egg. But yeah, they're going to
1:02:32
bring the wrong ones. It might take some time,
1:02:35
but Argentina is going to do the same thing Mexico
1:02:38
did to match room. 100%. It is part of the intra
1:02:48
-Latino rivalry. It's against my better nature
1:02:54
to cheer for the Argentines. Argentines. Yeah,
1:02:58
but goddammit, if it's against the Brit. Like,
1:03:02
I'm doing the Bob Arum emote from Discord. Yeah,
1:03:09
if you want to know what that looks like, you
1:03:10
better join up. But yeah, I don't care about
1:03:13
Ben Whittaker. I dislike him. So let's go Suarez.
1:03:19
I'm here, like, Whittaker, I used to be a fan.
1:03:23
It was like the, to me, I looked at him as Emmanuel
1:03:27
Augustus 2 .0. I thought he could be that, but
1:03:32
he has proven very contrary. That would have
1:03:34
been really cool, but... He has proven to not
1:03:38
be that already. Yeah, that's not what's going
1:03:42
down. So, yep, Brian, Brian Suarez, let's fucking
1:03:47
get it, bro. That's all on the docket, though.
1:03:51
That's a crazy way to spell Brian, unless that's
1:03:54
a typo. No, it's how Spanish speakers spell Brian.
1:03:59
With two A's? Brian. Okay. Crazy. A week, maybe
1:04:07
two weeks ago, Tops, there was one with a Y instead
1:04:10
of an I. I've seen that. Spelling it like Ryan
1:04:14
with a B in front of it. Brian. That's a girl's
1:04:19
name. That's all on the docket. I had something.
1:04:27
I wanted to pad us for time here at the end in
1:04:31
the outro section. What would a modern world
1:04:37
boxing super series look like? What weight class?
1:04:42
Yes, that's kind of the key point. The stipulation
1:04:46
is that all four title lists are automatically
1:04:49
involved. You cannot exclude them. I got to pull
1:04:54
up some rankings and see who the title lists
1:04:57
are. So we need a weight class with four different
1:04:59
title lists. I was going to say 154, even though,
1:05:03
because we do have good people there, even though
1:05:06
there's a double, a double belt. Okay. Okay.
1:05:08
So that doesn't automatically disqualify the
1:05:12
weight class then. No. Okay. Honestly, I think
1:05:19
168. I know the W. The WBO is vacant right now,
1:05:24
but you've got Iglesias, you've got Resendiz,
1:05:28
you've got Lester, you've got Mbili. We'll say
1:05:31
Shiraz, just for the sake of the thought experiment,
1:05:35
Shiraz wins the vacant fight. Okay. So, how many
1:05:42
people are in the World Boxing Super Series?
1:05:44
Eight. Okay, so you've got Iglesias, who looked
1:05:48
fucking awesome. I know that's next week, but...
1:05:51
He looked awesome. He looked fantastic. Resendiz
1:05:54
is a little weaker. To say it in Spanish, he
1:05:59
looks a little chueco. Okay. Keep that one in
1:06:02
your back pocket. Anyways, going back to eight.
1:06:05
We need eight. We got Iglesias, Resendiz, Mbili,
1:06:11
Martinez, Shiraz. I mean, they're going to pick
1:06:15
Canelo, but he doesn't deserve it. I was going
1:06:17
to exclude him. Okay, Pacheco is one that people
1:06:23
would want in there, I think. And we need one
1:06:26
more. Who else is at 168? Who did I forget? One,
1:06:32
two, three, four, five. Oh, no. Okay, we need
1:06:35
two more. Bank? There's two. Beck would lose.
1:06:41
I was saying Jacob Bank. Jakub Bank. Oh, okay.
1:06:45
I thought you said Beck. The post in Reddit said
1:06:51
take the belt holders and then their number one
1:06:55
contender. And I think Bank is at the top of
1:07:00
WBO. He is not. He's number three. Yeah, okay.
1:07:06
So when Canelo loses to Shiraz, Bank would be
1:07:09
number one. Who else? Well, Bektamir Melikuziev.
1:07:14
is number one for resendiz charlo for like a
1:07:19
legacy pick because they had like in the cruiserweight
1:07:22
one they had marco hook who was very well past
1:07:26
his prime but he was still like the quote unquote
1:07:29
lineal okay so we throw in charlo and beck as
1:07:35
fillers because they're gonna lose uh Is he at
1:07:41
168? Not anymore. Now he's at Zufa. No, he's
1:07:44
not. Yeah. We've got Fulgham for another kind
1:07:49
of older guy that's in it. I don't think so.
1:07:54
Sajo? Who's Sajo? He's the guy that gave Pacheco
1:07:58
hits. Yeah. Canelo's not a bad pick. That could
1:08:05
be a legacy pick, is Canelo. He's on his way
1:08:08
out the door. But he's ranked high in all four.
1:08:13
But I think 168 is the one you do it at. And
1:08:18
they usually do two at a time. Honestly, 147
1:08:22
also probably has eight people that people would
1:08:25
like to see. So for 154, we've got, for the belt
1:08:31
holders, we've got Josh Kelly, Fundora, Xander
1:08:34
Zayas. We'll include Xander Zayas and Ennis.
1:08:38
Like, that's already a made fight. Okay. So that's
1:08:43
half of them. That's four. Brandon Adams. Why
1:08:49
him? He's the highest ranked by the WBO and the
1:08:55
IBF. Okay. And he's number two in the WBC. Perfect.
1:09:00
Perfect pick, then. Tim Zhu? No. Madramah? He's...
1:09:05
Hazu's not really ranked by anyone right now.
1:09:09
No, he's in rebuilding at the moment. Yeah. Bakra.
1:09:13
I mean... Kelly beat him for the belt, but he's
1:09:16
still, you know, knocking on the door, so to
1:09:21
speak. Who else is highly... The rankings are
1:09:25
all over the fucking place in this one, though.
1:09:28
That's the problem. If you want to include recent
1:09:32
champs, Abbas Baru, since he just lost to Xander
1:09:36
Zayas. Virgil. Virgil's not ranked by anyone.
1:09:42
He's still one of the bigger names, nonetheless.
1:09:47
I think he's the WBC interim. Oh, he is. You're
1:09:51
right. Yeah, you could do 154. I don't think
1:09:55
that's as strong as 168. But I don't really watch
1:09:58
these weight classes. Let's try one at the lower
1:10:01
weight classes, then. 147, you could do it, I
1:10:05
think. You got Crocker, Romero, Garcia, Haney.
1:10:11
That's good. That's a good top four already.
1:10:16
Paro. Paro's a good one. Donovan. Catterall.
1:10:23
I know he's ranked, but... Pacquiao for the Legacy.
1:10:27
Stanionis. You could do it there. But lower weight
1:10:32
classes. Yeah, let's try one of the smaller ones
1:10:35
because they always do a big and a small. I mean,
1:10:39
I think you could do minimum weight, but I would
1:10:42
be the only one watching it. 112? Yeah. Ola Squaga.
1:10:53
You could throw in Taraji for Legacy. Okay, so
1:10:58
the champions are Yabuki, Sandoval, Olaskwaga.
1:11:03
And then you've got interims of... How is Galal
1:11:07
Yafai an interim? Because the fight got overturned
1:11:12
with Rodriguez. And Jonathan Gonzalez is an interim.
1:11:18
So that's got you five. You could do... Is Taraji
1:11:27
for sure retired? I think Taraji's probably going
1:11:32
to stay retired, yeah. Takami is a good pick.
1:11:37
Akui. That's got a 7. We only need to find one
1:11:42
more. Did you point out Felix Alvarado? I did
1:11:45
not. He's a former champ. You could definitely
1:11:48
do it there. People wouldn't care so much, but
1:11:53
you could do it. You'd have to care. With like
1:11:56
168 to... Yeah. 115 you could do, but Bam just
1:12:01
wins it. You have to exclude Bam if you want
1:12:03
to make it competitive. Yeah. Taraji is up at
1:12:08
115 now. That's why he's not at 112. Okay. Still
1:12:13
listed on BoxRec, but... 118, where all my favorites
1:12:18
are, I think you could do it. That's a good one.
1:12:21
It's already been a WVSS at 118. Yeah. They probably
1:12:26
wouldn't do it again, but. Medina, Tsutsumi,
1:12:29
Takuma. Vargas, Masuda. If you want like a young
1:12:34
up and comer, you throw Lover in. Yeah, honestly,
1:12:39
all the lower weight classes are pretty competitive
1:12:42
right now. If only people watched them. They're
1:12:47
so much fun, Leo. I still need to write that
1:12:50
article about why people should watch them. No
1:12:52
one's going to read it, but. You should write
1:12:55
it anyway. I did an outline and I'm like, this
1:13:00
is a scientific paper. I fell into my scientific
1:13:04
writing real fast. That sounds like the perfect
1:13:08
way to explain it. Here is evidence as to why
1:13:14
you need to... I had legit statistics. CompuBox
1:13:20
numbers of the last three title fights. Yeah.
1:13:25
Well, everybody moves around so quickly in the
1:13:28
lower weight classes that the standings are more
1:13:31
dynamic as well. Like, you don't have very many
1:13:34
people that hold belts for a long time. Like,
1:13:37
C .P. Freshmart was the exception. Yeah. Him
1:13:41
and Moonsree. Yeah. But this is a fun thought
1:13:44
experiment. I like it. Yeah, I think I'm going
1:13:47
to keep this one for B -sides too. Yeah, yeah.
1:13:52
I still think 168 and maybe 112. 147 was a really
1:14:00
good shout. It's a glamour division. Yeah, there's
1:14:04
lots of controversy in there right now. Oh, but
1:14:08
yeah, that thought experiment was the last thing
1:14:10
we had on the docket today. Cool. As usual, my
1:14:20
parting words are fuck tension. I hope he cries.
1:14:25
You will be there to see him cry in person. Run
1:14:29
into the ring and capture his tears. Delicious
1:14:32
tears. And put those into your watch the lower
1:14:36
weight class document. You see people cry. And
1:14:42
die. Holy shit. I didn't even think about that.
1:14:48
Yeah, people die a lot at the lower weights.
1:14:52
Possibly not a good thing to put in the article
1:14:54
as a reason to watch. But yeah, that's it for
1:14:59
parting words. Hold on a second. I can't just...
1:15:03
If a pig loses its voice, is it disgruntled?
1:15:10
Yes. Can I yell movie in a crowded firehouse?
1:15:20
Jesus. These are so bad, Leo. I know. Well, that's
1:15:25
it for this edition of Boxing Before Dark. We
1:15:28
will see you on the other side of, uh, what is
1:15:31
this? MPPW2. Oh, yeah, right. Timing. Alright.
1:15:40
We out here. Bye. Thank you.