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- speaker-0: Hello folks, and welcome to the Guardians of the Republic. ⁓ this is ⁓ Greg here, guesting on the show again here today. ⁓ Jonathan is out working, making a living again. And we have the regular hosts on the show, Charles Barfield and Tony Hughes. How are y'all doing tonight? speaker-1: Doing good, Greg, Joey, how y'all fellas doing? speaker-2: Good to see you gr good good to see you good to see. I'm doing good. Good to see Greg. Good to see you Charles. speaker-1: Black black. speaker-0: So let's talk about what part of heaven that we are in because I won't talk about the parts of hell that y'all want to talk about. Let's talk about heaven. Okay. Okay, so so so let's talk about the Meet the Press interview. That was brilliant. That was the most brilliant interview I've seen on Meet the Press of a politician being extremely honest with a interviewer. that I've ever seen. Good, bad, or indifferent. Chubb did what everyone every single person did what every single person wanted to do when they were interviewed and pressure. speaker-2: He had facts to back up everything he said. He just he just took her apart. speaker-0: No. He he did not you know, that's the whole thing. Is that whenever any facts a lot of things and a lot of the stuff that we're talking about don't have to do with facts. They have to do with suppositions and and also that the facts are are on the the ⁓ the burden of fa demand or burden of proof as ⁓ Charles liked to say in the his legal terminology is on the is ⁓ is on their side. I mean th they're the ones who s have to prove that you know it didn't happen, but we can't do that without the data. Without the data, without the information and we have no idea if there's any Real fraud in the California election or not, which is I think was the ⁓ the part of the interview where the wheel came off the ⁓ the the the axle. No speaker-2: Will came off about h about his election, the twenty twenty election. speaker-0: Well his election was fraud. speaker-1: And he can't he he just won't leave. He won't leave. And he just won't leave that. And there and I think though the journalist was basically asking him, you know, why are you saying these explosive ⁓ allegations without no no fact whatsoever? And and and the real question though is that at one point. At what point is American society gonna move from this elementary juvenile ridiculous level where a journalist can't even ask you a basic question. I mean, no one forced you, put a gun to his head and and told him to run for the presidency. He did it on his own and the second time he did it because he didn't want to be elected. He he won he he won he wanted to, you know, ⁓ pardon himself or maybe his family members in his in his speaker-0: Yeah, R. speaker-1: You know, but the bottom line is that d this is so juvenile that you you y why do the interview if you're not gonna answer questions? He can always say no. Like Nancy Reagan, just say no. If if he if if if he can decline the invitation to do ⁓ the any but one yeah, that's what he should have if he doesn't answer basic questions. You know that I mean there wasn't no hardball questions. It wasn't Tony, there was just simple questions. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Сам купує. speaker-0: They're loaded. speaker-2: Basic questions. And and he and he brought up the elections. I mean she tried to change the stor change the topic and get back to the economy. He's the one that went down the rabbit hole about the elections. Yeah because speaker-0: I mean they're still counting in California. speaker-2: Well, because he got mad. No, it really wasn't even talking about California at that point in time. He brought he brought up California the twenty twenty eleven because he was because he was mad. He got pissed off. Because you know, it it it it goes back you know, if you go back and look at the face of the nation, I'm sorry. speaker-0: But he did bring up all that. He did. Face a nation. speaker-2: He he did he did an interview. No, it was no sixty minutes. He did a sixty minutes interview with Leslie Stahl back in t back in twenty twenty just before the election. Yeah. Right. And he got p and he got he got pissed off at something that she said. And he stormed out. It was almost an alm almost the exact replay of what he did with Kristen Welker at ⁓ Meet the Press. You know, he he didn't like the question and you know and speaker-0: Yeah that's speaker-2: He is such a narcissist and he's such a misogynist that he does not like attractive women. I mean women I mean it's just like he was just like ⁓ just well let's go back to ⁓ what's her face with ⁓ what's her face what's her face with CNN? no, the lady with CNN, I've just lost her name. ⁓ snap. She went to the University of Alabama, she's from Alabama, she's from Prattville. speaker-0: Yeah. I mean we can't judge. There we go, right? speaker-2: Correspondent for CNN. Pretty brunette, huh? I just can't, I just can't call her name right now. Anyway, but you know, she asked a question. He was in the White House, and and he had already kind of talked about his slush fun. And she and she just said, Well now, so just to clarify, you know, about the the and she even called it the proper name for him, the speaker-0: The Conservative. The Conservative is CNN. speaker-2: anti weaponiza weaponization fund, you know, you are you're no longer gonna pursue it. And he just lit into her. It's like, you know, ⁓ you know, you're such a pretty woman and I've I still had just never seen you smile. Because in Trump's world, women are supposed to smile at him. You know, they are supposed to show proper deference to him as the president. And you know, you're just an attractive woman who probably just got your job because you are attractive. You probably don't know, you probably your IQ is probably your bra size. And I just want to see you smile at me. And otherwise I'm not going to play your game. I mean it was su it was ridiculous. And and then and that was just last week. And then here comes ⁓ the the interview with ⁓ with ⁓ Meet the Press with Kristen Walker and basically said the same thing. You know, when he gets up and leaves, he says, Thank you, darling. And I mean it's just I mean it's just ⁓ he's the one that brought up the speaker-0: Well Okay, I get It's parasitized. speaker-2: He's but he's the one that brought about the twenty twenty election. It's rigged, it was dirty. You know, he said, You're crooked, ⁓ you know, NB your your network is crooked, C B S is crooked. speaker-0: Did she defend herself rapidly? speaker-2: I mean ⁓ he made a lot of big accusations against these networks to say, well, you know that it's rigged and you allow it to happen, you're not reporting on it. And she said, But where's the evidence? And he said, There's more evidence than ever's been presented. Well it's if you have all this evidence, why didn't you why did you not take speaker-0: Well yeah. ⁓ I mean, if you're ⁓ the winner of the election and you're ⁓ attacking voter fraud, then you should scratch your head really hard because, you know, you're the guy who won because of the voter fraud. And if you're saying everything is all illegal and now if you lost, I mean a lot of people that lose that call voter fraud every day of the week. I mean Hillary Clinton still talks about voter fraud. I mean Bernie Sanders talks about voter fraud. The people in Michigan, the Democrats who lost the other Democrats talk about voter fraud. I mean Yeah, usually when you know people who lose the evidence they do. Well, ⁓ I I'm not I'm not saying there's any evidence of any evidence people who say that are so whenever you're the winner speaker-2: There is evidence out there, Greg, and that's the thing. Heritage Foundation. The Heritage Foundation, which is not exactly a bastion of liberal progressive thought. I mean, the Heritage Foundation is about the most conservative organization in this country. And they did a study back to, I believe it was nineteen eighty-six, of every state. You can go, you can go Google, you can go to their website, look at this study, you can look at every state and and it lists how many examples of speaker-0: Yeah, there is. No, they could be. speaker-2: Voter fraud, how many people have been indicted, have been convicted of voter fraud. And going back to like nineteen eighty six, it's about three thousand people. How many out of how many millions and millions of votes counted, you've got three thousand people across all fifty states that have been actually tried and convicted of voter fraud? speaker-0: I know what is the You're right. Yeah. Because somebody may be a but you gotta realize the reason they were tried and convicted was because somebody had the means to bring it to the table. Now there's a lot of people who are victims of butterfly. speaker-2: We can't enforce the laws. We can't enforce the laws. speaker-0: I I I say a lot of people don't enforce the laws. A lot a lot of people don't even know about the the things that are going on because they don't have the evidence or the wherewithal to go after or find out. A lot of things happen in these small elections and and a lot also people whenever you look at voter party, people always just look at the big elections like the presidential or the governor or the congressional and not realizing a lot of the devil's in the details. A lot a lot of the chicanery and everything else does happen behind the scenes and it's more little county elections or city elections where the people who are complaining or don't have the wherewithal to to actually go out and get evidence or to find evidence or do things like that. And so and also and y you well know that the the people who actually bring these to the courts are the state attorneys of those areas. The state attorneys are are the are the ones who bring the charges and do the investigations. And if this and there's and if you believe that all of them are pure, then I have to disagree with you. All the state attorneys are not pure across the country. a lot of them are corrupted. And there are a lot of different s ⁓ jurisdictions where there is not a clean bill of health because the powers to be have this your person elected because that's the way the money flows all the different coffers. And the state attorneys are usually parts of the powers to be in a lot of the different districts. And so you have a lot more complicated issues here to where you're correct. We haven't seen the evidence. And there might not be evidence. There might be a lot of supposition, there might be a lot of people just being conspiratorial theorists and everything else. Or there might be situations where I've seen things happen, but they did not want to see they did not want to bring it forward because they knew the state attorney in that area was not going to bring it forward. In fact, I have been part of situations where we knew that voter fraud did happen. We took it to a state attorney. He says, What do you mean do with this? He says, I can't do anything with this. And we asked him, why not? He's like, I can't say why not. And they and and and that just happens to me, to Greg Fink and to people that Greg Fink works with. Now there's a lot of other people like me out there and so who are working on campaigns. Like you just there's no one speaker-2: At that but at that point if you got if you got corruption at the state level What about the FBI? What about the U.S. attorney? Because if if you've got gr if you've got corruption at a state office, there's always some federal connection. ⁓ speaker-0: Yeah, ⁓ we are actually speaker-2: There's some federal there's some federal money in there somewhere. speaker-0: Correct. And we are actually ⁓ some people I'm working with are talking to the FBI and to the federal authorities about this. And so the thing is we we you know, a lot of times, you know, ⁓ I'll talk about off the air, but some f FBI and federal authorities are afraid of some of their congressmen. And and and if the congressman, you know, like this guy, they're gonna leave it alone. Fortunately, yeah, unfortunately these are all humans. ⁓ every human has a bias. And and and not everything is pure. speaker-2: This but Greg, is the is this so widespread that it can aff that it can affect that it can affect fifty states speaker-0: I don't know. But that's what exactly. You're taking it to a national level. And there's silly speaker-2: Yeah. I live I live in Andalusia. I live in Andalusia, Alabama. It's a small town. It's ⁓ about I think the population of Andalusia is like ten thousand people. The population of Coventon County is about twenty thousand. So we had a city election right after I moved here. I didn't vote because I didn't know anybody. It was strictly a municipal election and they're done by districts, right? Well, I didn't know anybody. And ⁓ it turns out that there were two candidates And they each wound up with sixty eight votes each. They tied with sixty eight votes apiece. So what is that? ⁓ three hundred and thirty six total vo I'm sorry, two hundred and thirty s no, one hundred and thirty six votes. Right. Sixty eight apiece. I can't do the math without a calculator. And ⁓ yeah, hell if I had voted, I could have probably decided. And it turned out it went to the city council. That's how the charter's set up. Right. In the event of a tie, it goes to the city council. And ⁓ one of the guys was the incumbent and the city council voted unanimously to put the incumbent back in office. Now, the supporters of the other guy screened they all screamed bloody murder because they said, Well, it's crooked. It's impossible for an election to wind up in a tie. Well, it's very possible. If it's if it's a small number of people and it's an even number of people that vote, ⁓ speaker-0: ⁓ we're gonna cry. I go. speaker-2: If you can divide it by two, it absolutely can't happen. speaker-0: Yeah. And and the statistics of that happening are far smaller than the people who are being convicted for ⁓ for voter fraud. I mean, you know, that that that's but that happens speaker-2: But my point the point that I wanted to make is that until they're until we're actually enforcing the laws on the board. Then it's just like it's just like the Save America Act that they're that they can't get that Trump can't get past the Senate, thankfully. You know, look, if they would take out the part where every existing citizen has to again prove their citizenship. Again prove their citizenship. I think it would pass with flying colors. I don't I mean if it was if it was strictly a voter ID law, which is what it which is how it's been advertised, I think it would pass without problem. But the problem is that that that if you've had a name change, every time you change your address, I mean anything that you do to change your registration, you've got to reprove all over again. Now speaker-0: Right. Yeah. speaker-2: I'm sixty seven years old. I have no earthly idea where my birth certificate is. My mama had it and she's passed away probably fifteen years ago now. It may be in some stuff I got from her. It might be at my sister's house. I have no idea. Fortunately have a passport. I could prove it, but thanks my passport. But otherwise I'd have to go back to the state of Alabama and go back to nineteen fifty nine records to say I need a copy my birth certificate so I can go vote. I've been voting ever since I was eighteen. But now all of a sudden I'd have to and I've moved. I've voted in Alabama. I've voted in Miss in ⁓ Florida, I've voted in Mississippi and back in Alabama again. but I'd have to go back and prove every time. Now, people they already have to take an oath. They have to swear under the penalty of perjury when they register to vote that they are an American citizen. Now my argument is If we've got if we've got so many illegals that have come into this country and have registered to vote and have lied on their voter application form and have committed perjury, which is a felony, why don't we just enforce the law we have on our books rather than put American citizens who've been voting for fifty years through the hassle of having approved their citizenship all over again? Let's just focus on the ones that we suspect are illegal to begin with. And when we find out that they are in fact illegal, we find that they're not in fact American citizens. Let's prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. I agree. And then kick ⁓ out of the country. Because they've commit 'cause they're here illegally. And I'm not trying to necessarily say that every illegal should be kicked out because I don't think that just crossing in the country is a felony enough. Yes, we broke a law, but it's more of a civil law, not a cr not a big, not a big like a class A felony. But I think if you come in illegally and you've committed perjury, that's probably a good reason to kick you out. And then and then just let people know, hey, we're gonna we're gonna start we're gonna start looking at these voter rolls. And if you d and if you are illegal, if you lied on your application and we find out about it, then there becomes something bad happened. speaker-1: Well speaker-2: We don't have to have a n we don't have to have a new law for that though. We could enforce that law today and clean up everything that you're worried about illegal is voting. speaker-1: This is the thing. I agree with that, Tony, and that's exactly what the deal tried to tell the GOP. That it's already a felony and criminal to to engage in fraudulent misrepresentation on a border roll. So you can go to prison for that and you can always be get kicked out of the country. So th that's not that's never got in the way of political power. This is about power and population control. ⁓ that that's why no one really ⁓ you know. speaker-2: It's about voter suppression, Charles. ⁓ speaker-1: That's my other point. My other point is that see think about well Greg Greg grouped it all as voter pro fraud. And I'm against ⁓ voter fraud in any kind of way. But the problem is is that the oppression, voter oppression and suppression is usually done by the incumbent party. That's that's why I do agree with Greg on, because they are the ones through gerrymandering through making up laws saying you can't give people ⁓ water. ⁓ while they're voting, if it's three or four hours, I don't care if it's w you know, if it's in the heat and it so so they'll prefer they literally got laws in multiple states where if you give someone water, it's a water not a myth, it's a felony to give them water. So if someone have a heat stroke or they're having a a urgent medical crisis, you can't that that that's ridiculous. But my my my bigger point is that this is where I'm very speaker-0: Anyway, speaker-1: unapologetically liberal in this aspect. I believe in my own belief with the history of voting and and and and ⁓ Jim Crow segregation, slavery, lynching and all that, I believe an American citizen should never, ever, under no circumstances, have their right to vote separate. I don't care if you commit criminal crime. I don't care what you do. You should have the right to vote. And if you're in prison or you're in an institution where taxpails are paying anyway, make all political parties go to those prison institutions and get your vote in prison. I believe that. And I don't care, I don't care if if you were Jeffrey Dahlmer. I don't care. As long as you got breath in you and you in a prison institution or wherever you are, you should have the unbreached, unequivocal right to vote. And I and I think that's what we need to do because I don't believe you should forfeit your right to vote. I just don't think you should do that. And if you ⁓ And that's why and I th I believe if that if that right were you would have all cheating all this gerrymand and speaker-2: Yeah, I just I do think I do think that once they're out on I do ag I do think that once they're out on parole or they're on probation, as long as they're not incarcerated, I do think that people should be allowed to vote. I think that they've paid their debt back to society. But I do believe that when someone commits a crime that you know they're giving up their right of freedom. And and I think that that I think that the right to vote goes along with your with you giving up your right to to be free. and not incarcerated. Because if somebody somebody murders somebody, beats somebody up, steals something, you know, commits a felony crime or even a even a a a a a serious misdemeanor where you could be locked up for six months or nine months or something like that. I mean when you commit that crime, you know there's a chance you're going to jail if you get caught. And that means that you've made you've made a decision. You have weighed, you know the these these choices here that you've made in your life and you've said, Well, I think that it's worth it to go do this criminal act and I'm gonna risk giving up my freedom for s whatever the length of time they give me. And I think that the right to vote should go along with if I'm if I'm you know, in the overall scheme of things, ⁓ if I'm willing to give up my right of freedom, giving up my right of voting is Easy, you know, because nobody's gonna say, Well, you know, I was willing to go spend ten years in prison, but dang it, I'm I'm not willing to give my right to vote, so I'm w I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do this crime. It's not a deterrent to to lose your right to vote. Well I'm saying that if we had speaker-1: You shouldn't have to work or do anything for the right to vote. As long as you're eighteen or t whatever the age of each state, you should be qualified. And sh i i it I don't think the government has a right to take that right back from you, period. And the reason why the government take that right back for you is because they want to purge voters. It's always about c power. It's always about political ⁓ population control and that's for both parties. That's in in my view. And I believe that a person's right to vote should be never, ever taken away. Regardless speaker-2: You might have a bunch of people in jail that that you know, they guided in for the police chief, they guided in for the county sheriff, and they all you get five you get five thousand guys in a prison to vote against a sheriff. You know, you may lose a good sheriff. You may get somebody in that's not a stuff on front. You're not you're not voting with your voting ⁓ speaker-1: Listen, Tony, if a sheriff ha does not have enough influence and political capital to to get more non prisoners to vote ⁓ for against them, that politician's not worth to have the seat, in my view. It's not worth having a seat. speaker-2: Yeah, that's and this is this is the big Well listen, listen. Let's just say that hey Charles is here I'm telling you that from a Democrat standpoint, do not run on that platform because you you will not win any you will not win any speaker-0: Yeah. I what is You can't pay the prison. ⁓ speaker-1: I don't care. I I d I hate the Democratic Party. Well, I hate Republican Party. Well we're but I am a kingdom ⁓ God thinking person. I think. Okay. Now I and and and there's some people it used to be on both sides that I kinda used to ⁓ like ⁓ but I think the Jill P went off the rocker somewhere about two thousand sixteen. But this is the thing though, Tony and Greg. speaker-2: Well we're talking politics. speaker-1: If i just assume if if you all was right in everything you just said in our last exchange. So how do you square that factually, intellectually, and legally with the current president has thirty four, I I think felonies, I don't know how many or down. And yet he ran in one So if if speaker-2: you know he actually vote well, you know, he actually voted he voted in the ⁓ Florida he voted in the Florida election not too long ago. He with a mail in vote a mail in vote by the way. Talking about hypocritical. But I did I did research to find out because in Florida, if you've been convicted of a felony, you're not allowed to vote. But the the the difference is his conviction was in New York. And New York yeah, it's in New York. speaker-0: Well, Yeah. speaker-2: And ⁓ New York allows someone who is not incarcerated, a felony c a felony conviction but not incarcerated, they allow them to vote. So Florida follows whatever law is in the state where the felony conviction took place. So had he been convicted of a felony in Florida, he would not have been allowed to vote. But since he was convicted in New York And New York allows felony convictions who are not incarcerated to vote, then he was allowed to vote. That's speaker-1: I'm aware of that statue a very liberal quote unquote interpretation of that statute. It's only been applied to him in that aspect only, ever. speaker-0: Right. Well he's the he's the one he's the only one running that had to be applied to, okay? Ever, ever. He's the only guy who was a presidential nominee that ever happened to. So yeah. He's the only guy is ever applied to because he's the only one who made it to that level that had to be applied to. Now, real quick, to go back to the illegal voting thing issue on the deportation and all the stuff. I happen to be the theory, of course, without any evidence whatsoever. So let me just throw it out there. That speaker-2: So we're talking hypothetical. ⁓ speaker-0: Hypothetical. Just think think with me here, okay. Now you're correct. Most illegals are not gonna be voting because A they don't wanna w throw up a red flag. But and and this is one thing we did find and this is one thing that we did bring up and they rolled their eyes when we brought it up, is that the people that we were finding that were voting did not know that ⁓ you you contact ⁓ they didn't know they voted. And so it kinda goes to the whole idea here of the identity theft role of ⁓ voter fraud is that a lot of people who are illegal in our voting don't really know that they're voting. And otherwise they wouldn't be voting because it'd be like saying, Here, throw me away throw me out. Throw you know, deport me. And so you have a lot of people who are using that data, which we all find out through our social media platforms and our and our digital platforms and all the different data harvesting that they're using through TikTok and Facebook and X and so on and so forth. And and and the the the identity theft people are using that. Not just for identity theft or for fake credit cards or for fake things, but also for voter roles. Because a lot of things you have to do with it when you get registered to vote, you is you supply that social security number. So they're pretending to be that person to to harvest all the information. So that's kinda where yeah, I'm saying voter fraud, first of all, is not partisan. It's very nonpartisan. It's and so there is when the Heritage ⁓ Foundation says what they're saying, you know They don't realize Republicans are cheating just as much as Democrats. And that's one thing Trump doesn't want to talk about and Democrats don't want to talk about Republicans don't want to show none none of the incumbents are want to talk about because they're probably there as a result of something might or might not happen without any evidence or maybe a lot of evidence that nobody wants to talk about. And there's things that the subpathes suppositions and the hypotheticals are are enormous. I only know the stuff I talk about from the stuff I've seen personally and stuff I've questioned and stuff I've double checked. I can't, you know, unfortunately I've only worked in that area in in the Florida region. I haven't there's forty-nine other states I have not really dug into. Although Wayne County and Michigan, we did start digging into four or five other precincts that had a hundred ⁓ that had a hundred and forty percent turnout. And in Lashawa County here this last election, we had six precincts that had a hundred and thirty percent turnout or higher. And basically the people had turned out they moved there they they moved there to vote out of speaker-2: How does that work? How does that work though? speaker-0: Manfish. ⁓ how it works is that ⁓ you have like a precinct has three thousand registered voters. But in in in the state of Florida, you can you can ⁓ go and change your election your vote on election day and and and you don't have to live or have residency in that county. You can you can move to that county to just vote for somebody and then move back to your county. It's called a change of address or or j or voter change. You can do it on the same day actually. And what i it's okay if these people actually really do live there. But they don't. And so and so we we we had issues with and they say, Well, these are college students and they weren't college students unless these college students were like, you know, well they weren't college students. We s you know, we identified who they were. And and and then they left six weeks after the election. They they took their residency and their registration back to where they came from. And so basically, you know, the people were actually bringing them in just to stack the deck and to get more votes for one person and then sending them back. And you know, and that's actually not voter suppression, that's voter encouragement. And it's great. All these people voted and but but you the voter fraud. speaker-2: So but when they felt their when they changed their dress speaker-0: But they change it but but but they don't really know because they were not there for the verified see when they change their address, they're supposed to be ⁓ cho ⁓ used as a provisional ballot. And the supervisor of elections are supposed to identify them as a provisional ballot. There are eighty nine hundred ⁓ change of addresses in Alasha County in twenty twenty four. There are three hundred out of those eighty nine hundred that were considered provisional ballots because the election office said they did not have the manpower to do it and they apologized. And they couldn't have verified these other eighty nine hundred people who ended up leaving the the district and left the county ⁓ three weeks or six weeks after the election. And they're they're they they don't even know where they are anymore. But that's illegal. Exactly. That's illegal. That's what we took to a state attorney. A state attorney said, What do you mean to do about it? speaker-1: Let me say. Greg, a provisional states have a little different thing. speaker-2: Yeah, best. speaker-0: But ⁓ speaker-1: But generally speaking though, Greg, a provisional ⁓ ballot ballot is not county until it's verified. That's why it's called speaker-0: Exactly. Exactly. And that's exactly the point. Is that is the stuff that we have seen that nobody wants to talk about. And that's actually my frustration is because this is stuff that I am living through and watching and smelling and tasting and eating and digesting. And then people tell me it doesn't happen when it really freaking does. speaker-2: So so your your position is that some political party hired nine thousand people to fill out a change of address to say that they lived in a certain district or a certain county that they really didn't live in and then and then you expected them to go vote and then and then they were you were told they were told to vote a certain way. Correct. And then as soon as the election was over, they changed their registration back to wherever they came from. speaker-0: Randomly. Wait. speaker-2: Right. That shouldn't be that hard f that shouldn't be that hard to track speaker-0: Here's the kicker though. You have to have a a supervisor of election that actually did not benefit from that. Here's a kicker. And and and and and the cool thing is that the the the the people who the the the the supervisor of election in in you would think would be objective, correct? However, this supervisor of election was actually part of fundraisers for other people who are on the ballot. And she was actually inviting other people who are on the ballot to be in the canvassing room. help with the canvassing, which is also a little bit of a thin line there during the the the ballot count. And usually the person who's in the ballot is not supposed to be in the canvassing room. So but but but this is this is just one example of things that we have seen in numerous counties throughout Florida. speaker-1: It is a speaker-2: Well let me ask you a question. speaker-1: isn't the the canvases board isn't those members supposed to be known before the before the vote needs to go down, right? speaker-0: You're right. But they're inviting people off the street who are actually part of the campaign to come watch. And let me correct that. They're inviting the other candidates who are on the ballot to be part of it. speaker-2: Well they're watching or are they actually counting boat votes though? speaker-0: We don't really know because we weren't allowed to see. speaker-2: Okay. But see here's the point here's the question I was gonna have. Now my name and my address for my voter registration is public information in Florida, right? So so what's to prevent you, I mean there were eight thousand of ⁓ or nine thousand for just picking out a hundred and then and then we see where they live now and just call these calling these folks up. It's like okay speaker-0: Exactly, yeah. I know everything about it. Eighty nine hundred, yeah. speaker-1: Дев speaker-2: I I We know we know you were doing something wrong. We're fixing to come get you to sign an affidavit and if you don't sign if you'll sign this affidavit about what you did and who and who paid you to do this. Correct. This is not a hard investigation speaker-0: Right. It is not a hard investigation. speaker-2: Make a s go make a citizen's arrest. You can still make a citizen's arrest if you need to. speaker-0: first of all I l I don't I don't live in that county anymore. I do have a I do have to try to make a living somehow because that is that is a full time gig and I I don't think ⁓ and that th that that's kinda where they get you. speaker-2: to the other political party. I mean if it was Republicans that were cheating take it to the speaker-0: It's it's Democrats who were cheating and and it and and basically here's what happened. The Democrat sheriff won the election by four hundred votes and the ⁓ and his opponent didn't really want to challenge it because he got appointed by the governor for another job and so they just said no harm, no foul. And that's the whole thing. Is that people it's kinda finish what I'm saying? It it goes back to what you're saying before. How do you know if there's evidence or not? And it and that's what I said. People actually have to have the due diligence or the wherewithal to bring it forward. to g to to to show that there's evidence. Now it there's things that happen all the time. People play poker all the time. People cheat. But nobody calls a cheater out unless they call ⁓ out. Nobody calls a cheater out on this stuff unless they call ⁓ out. And the whenever the supervisor of elections is benefiting financially, and because she was on the ballot as well, and she won her election by nearly the same amount of ⁓ people and everything else, Was she a Democrat? Yeah, she was. And and and so we we we have a lot of electioneering Reggae and we had a lot of elections that were settled by these over turnouts and if it were if there were regular turnouts, the other party would have won. And so I mean th there there's a lot of I just Well, I find it hard to believe too. That's extremely my frustration. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm not speaker-2: I just find it hard to I find it hard to believe that the other party, in this case, the Republican party, would not want to get their fingers ⁓ speaker-0: The Republican Party if you watch our other if you watch our other podcast, the Republican Party. ⁓ speaker-2: Because it's easy to flip somebody. I won't prosecute you if you give me the bigger fish and then find out who at the top of the food chain was responsible for doing doing all that and sending them to jail. I just can't I i it was in if I was a if I was a mucky muck in the Republican Party and I could put my counterpart in the Democrat Party in jail, I'm damn sure gonna try to do that. And I think vice versa works speaker-0: You're right. ⁓ I agree one million percent. I agree. Well, I mean especially nowadays. And and then whenever we took it to a state attorney's office, they they the state attorney said, What do you mean to do with this? And so whenever we took it to the elections office in ⁓ Tallahassee, they actually came down and looked at it, they said, Well, we we're we're gonna look into that. But the here's the reality. The ugly truth is that they're both doing it, so it doesn't really matter because it and and that's how and when you talk about how widespread is it, is it widespread? There's another widespread. If everybody doesn't if nobody cares to bring it to a court to a judge, then if a tree fell in a forest and nobody's ready to watch it fall, didn't make a sound. If there if voter fraud happened and nobody turned it in. If voter fraud happened and nobody turns it in, is it really fraud? Yes there is, but privy speaker-1: Greg. I I listen, I'm not saying you're not that you're wrong. I I feel the passion. I feel the fire. It almost seems like it's a personal thing. Well it is. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. I mean we we have an election here where they actually picked a person to run against my dad with the identical name of somebody who just lost a special election who left town. Actually she lived ⁓ nine states away. But they picked the same person and they actually used that person's picture who left town and told everybody it was her. And and she didn't know she was running against my dad. This other person ⁓ took on her name and then she left town as well. So they both left town, but they thought this other person was there. My dad lost by thirty five votes. And so I mean speaker-1: I'm not saying that that you're wrong. ⁓ speaker-0: It happened, baby. It happens. And and the prosecutor won't do anything about it because they say, ⁓ you're crazy. Prove it. I'm like, Give me the money, baby. Give me the money. It's only easy if people tell the truth. Yeah. And people lie because people lie, because people lie because they lie. And they lie because they lie because they get paid a lie. speaker-1: Does speaker-2: The Save America won't do anything else. But the Save America won't help that though. speaker-0: Nobody none of the acts will help anything about it. None of them none of the acts do a daggum thing about any of it because it ⁓ the the the cake is baked, okay? And and and and that's the whole thing is that, you know, whenever we talk about ⁓ fraud on a widespread level or on a high level or a local level, it to me is sort of ignorant to s to realize that, you know, there isn't chicanery in it in every single level. I mean you just watch Welcome Back Carter and you yeah, I mean any kind of small town Hij jinx story about politics and everything else. There's always ⁓ you know, background deals being cut everywhere. speaker-2: selection here, the guy that that that ultimately lost, you know, he ⁓ the way Alabama law is, ⁓ they automatic I I think they do a recount, but then if you want another recount for it. The guy the guy put up ten grand to have the second recount and it came out exactly the same. Yeah. ⁓ and so it was still it was still tied. Yeah. speaker-0: You gotta pay for it. Yeah, it's way in Florida. We had a real speaker-2: out of sixty eight votes against him, you know, in a small in a small community, I think if there had been some fraud since he put ten grand he was an it was important enough to him he put ten grand up for that that that extra recount, which I thought was kind of foolish money. But nonetheless, I think I'd have paid a ⁓ I mean if he could ⁓ if he could have just flipped one vote. All you do was flip one vote. speaker-0: He he wouldn't know about it Exactly. I mean I I I've been a part as as a political ⁓ campaigner, I've been a part of six recounts. And ⁓ and and and and and they were never exactly the same. Each time they varied three or four votes here or three or four votes there. We actually had an issue here with the ⁓ back to Electrowa County, I was working with a person ranked for supervisor elections against the incumbent supervisor of elections and they she would not allow petition cards to be signed or to be verified because she said that the the criteria was higher for petition card to get signed than it was for a vote. For a vote you just had to put an X. For a petition card you had to have a perfect signature match. Which I think it should be reversed. But basically ⁓ our the candidate who I was working with, she was only ⁓ I think twenty five petition cards short. And so she said, well you gotta pay $10,000 to run against me now. Because she wouldn't she wouldn't okay the twenty five cards, which she would okay for voting. For for absentee voting she would okay them. For the criteria for voting was lower than the criteria for qualifying, which usually is the opposite way around. Your criteria for voting should be the highest criteria and qualifying should be a lower criteria for verification purposes. But that but th this is also well once again the same area, the same county. And whenever we asked how come the provision the absentees on the general election, how come the they were not included as provisional, they're like, we don't have the manpower. That was their excuse. We don't have the budget. I mean That was it and they say because here's the reality. Once you vote, it goes into a black hole. It becomes an anonymous vote. And so how are you gonna identify those eighty nine hundred ballots which are supposed to be provisional? How do you identify them? And there's no possible way to identify them. speaker-2: Yeah, I don't know. ⁓ speaker-0: Exactly. You don't know how they voted. speaker-1: Let me quote you know the great Rick James, Greg, that would be cold blooded. speaker-2: But you know that. speaker-0: It is. And that's how politics is. It's cold blooded from the local level all the way to the state level. Anyway, let's go to the next next issue here. speaker-2: I think I think that horse is pretty well dead. speaker-0: I think we beat that horse to death. Even more that even more than Trump did. We make Trump look like a a Pollyanna on this issue. Okay. I can make him look like a horse. He don't even know what he's talking about. speaker-1: Yes. Well we gotta sit in that. speaker-2: See, I really I wish that Jonathan was on that as I as our rese speaker-0: Well Jonathan agrees with her. He agrees with me on the front issue. speaker-2: wanna I wanna know what I wanna know what you thought about the guy that's running for ⁓ senator up in Maine, the guy that speaker-0: Yeah, how'd that how how's that election going? I don't know. speaker-1: Well what we did talk about, ⁓ what what's what's the former ⁓ Auburn coach ⁓ Tommy typical This is the guy, this is a guy that that gray that is a class of voter fraud. He voted speaker-0: I'm not gonna talk about Johnny Red. I'm leaving that alone. I'm leaving it alone because I wanna talk about it. I got a lot of friends who are friends of his, so I'm not gonna talk about it. speaker-2: did he even get in the Senate? He was already living in Florida. commercial yeah of his from his house in South Walton County on the Gulf of Mexico. Where he's spending where he's spending his Auburn dollars. speaker-1: Exactly. speaker-0: Well you're allowed to live. You're allowed to have houses, you're allowed to be rich. speaker-2: And and and yeah, and his house that he claims as he's now claiming is his residence in Auburn is like a three bedroom, one one bathhouse. So really his wife is living in a three bedroom, one bathhouse where they got a seven million dollar mansion on thirty A in their way in South. speaker-1: All of this disqualifies him ⁓ from from running for the governorship ⁓ i in the state he's running for the governorship now. ⁓ that that's my understanding. Is that incorrect, Tony? Well speaker-2: He well he well that's that's right, because to be governor, I think the gu I think the requirement now I'm not completely up to speed on this, but what little bit I do know is that I think there's a difference in residency to run as governor versus run as senator. To run as governor there is a minimum number of years you must spend as a resident of Alabama. Now, since he's been elected to the Senate, he has been filing his tax returns with his Alabama Auburn address. However, prior to that, he voted he voted in Florida and they've got that record of his voting in Flo I think it was in twenty eighteen. And if he voted in twenty eighteen in Florida as his residence, he's off by a year. And that's yeah, I think and that and that's and so now he's one year short. Now he's suing and now he's threatening to sue speaker-0: Well yeah, he did. speaker-2: the newspaper that got a hold of that information because they got a hold of his tax returns as well. And I guess they printed I guess they published the tax return, but they they they ⁓ redacted some personal information, but apparently there's some QR code that you can scan that you get that personal information. They didn't they didn't redact the QR code. He's he's he's suing them for that now. But he's trying his best speaker-0: Well he's speaker-2: And then and then there's another guy, Barry Moore, who is ⁓ who is the House representative for the Mobile County for South southern Alabama. In fact, he's in my district, and he's running for Tupperville seat. And and he and he's been running some ads about his military service. And ⁓ you know, I think one of the catch fat phrases is that he's worn combat boots. speaker-0: Right. speaker-2: Well, as it turns out, he spent seven years in the ⁓ Alabama National Guard and a and Army Reserve. Was called up to active duty for two months. He never deployed to a combat area. He never actually f was in a combat zone. ⁓ but yet his military ad says he wore combat boots and his campaign's response is well he wore combat boots while he was in training. speaker-0: Yeah, come on. work combat I was in the air force for three years, two and a half years. I was at Langley Air Force Base and I worked combat booth speaker-2: And he and he and he's running and he and he's running against the Navy SEAL. speaker-0: Well that's a little tough. Okay, well. speaker-2: Well the that the Navy SEAL has definitely seen combat. speaker-0: Yeah. Never mind. speaker-2: But ⁓ but speaker-0: Yeah, that that's a big comparison difference. speaker-2: And I've also also laugh at Barry Moore's ads because I mean he hits he hits the the the the the things that are most important to the citizens of Alabama. ⁓ no tra let's say there are no trans in schools, ⁓ no men and women's sports, and I have the full endorsement of Donald Trump. speaker-0: That we're over there. Okay, I thought there's a story ⁓ dead issues. How about that? speaker-2: I mean that's I mean that that is that is the top to me in Alabama, you know speaker-0: Okay, yeah. As a Republican, I'll it's a no doubt to all Republicans that the issue's dead, okay? Nobody's talking about transit schools anymore, okay? Nobody's talking about men and women's sports. I mean, that that's a dead issue. I mean I mean, even the transgender people don't even want to talk about it. I mean, everybody agrees that taxpayer dollars don't go toward that. I mean it it's a I mean speaker-2: Campaign as his campaign. I know, I know, but that's his campaign ad. You know, and I g I you know, to me it's like him saying I think the people of Alabama are dumbasses. Because they they are too they are too stupid to really understand what real issues are. Like, I don't know, one and a half trillion dollar annual budget deficit by the federal government, forty trillion dollar federal federal debt. ⁓ speaker-0: Exactly. Forty trillion in debt, what's a one and a half? speaker-2: Yeah, d you know, g gas ⁓ g gas at f over four dollars a gallon. speaker-0: Yeah, we're back up again today. speaker-2: I mean that I mean to me these are the issues everyday Alabamians are facing. But our our new senator is trans in s no trans in schools, you know, no men and women's sports and I've got the full endorse. I am I am MAGA baby through and through. speaker-0: Yeah, this is it. Yeah, the kitchen table. Get him on the show. So Well you should come on the show. There you go. speaker-1: I mean listen, listen. I I I believe in I believe in traditional marriages and things of that nature strongly. I'm very conservative on that issue spiritually. There's the reason for that. But how is that affecting a person, you know, gas prices? How is that? And that's the problem with low information voters that don't i don't care about alarming themselves. They won't hear exact idolatry, hyperbole. speaker-0: No. speaker-1: to make them feel good and then you're losing economically all the way around. You know what I'm saying? Because they're voting against their interests. So it it i i you get to a point where you're like, listen, you know, sometimes, you know, you just gotta do the right thing for the good of the company, but ⁓ of the country. But you you got a s a segment of population that just don't care. And mainly the non voters that I have a real issue with. Because the non voters are the that don't weigh in on a scale and they don't want that complaint com use the complain the most. That that's what we gotta do is gotta get people to care enough to vote. Because d this democracy is a is a is an experiment. It's nothing a permit, nothing guaranteed. I mean we never thought through all the civil rights atrocities and killings and all of that, we'll be right here doing ⁓ rigged up germining the districts and I mean the goal right is not it i it is destroyed. speaker-2: The problem is that they don't that the politicians running for office don't have any answers for these problems. These politicians want to avoid hard questions like the plague because I want to I they want to they want to go after that visceral reaction that I'm mad. I'm mad now. This is this is terrible. speaker-0: Exactly. speaker-2: You know, there there's a there's a Facebook meme that's been going around for probably ten years now, attributed to Dave Ramsey. And it's and it's supposedly some essay he's written on what a cashless society would be. And I I mean I guess it's making the rounds again because I've seen like three versions of it by friends I've friends of mine on Facebook that have posted and and he didn't write it. I mean he he he went on Twitter and said Not me. ⁓ and just like Abraham Lincoln said, don't believe everything you read on internet. So, you know, the but and I and I try to point out, I mean I I I got I got one guy got a good friend of mine, ⁓ I mean a forty year friend got pissed off with me because I challenged him that Dave Ramsey did not write this. And I actually went back and found the tweet and took a screenshot of it and sent it to him so he could say that says Dave Ramsey saying I did not he said, Well it doesn't make it well just because you didn't write it doesn't mean it's not still true. speaker-0: ⁓ my gosh, this is still not true. speaker-2: True. I should begin w to begin with, you know, if if you're gonna if you're gonna post something that the person it's attributed to has already disavowed it, that should tell you something. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-2: You're leaning on Dave Ramsey's reputation to prove this is the case. And it was full of a bunch of B S things. speaker-0: shows is that people are just more willing to show to jump on a bandwagon or or to be cool aid drinkers than they are to be intellectually honest about anything. Yeah. ⁓ speaker-1: ⁓ That's the problem. They don't want to research. They don't want to read. They just want someone to hand them ⁓ idea or ⁓ whether it's true or false ⁓ off off of social media because they're too lazy to engage intellectually and the research. Exactly. That's the problem. speaker-2: Like a reason. And all the all the things that he listed were all basic, were all bogus to begin with. You know, it's like, well, that if that means you can't get a side job. If you ever need an extra side job, you can't get a side job. Well, sure you can. I mean, are you gonna go to work for somebody they can't pay you? I mean, there'll be plenty of ways to I mean, ever I mean, social security checks electronically deposited, that's cashless. You know, your payroll check to probably automatically deposit your checking account, that's cashless. You know, how many people Every time you look, every time you write a check to pay your power bill, that is cashless. Who I mean, I probably got a hundred dollars in cash in my pocket right now, which is a lot for me. And it may that hundred dollars may sit there for two months, three months before I actually use it. Sometimes I pay my farrier in cash. But but I can still pay my farrier with Venmo. I mean, that's th you know, to say that, well, you know, your your grandson, you know, wants to come help you out on your farm. You know, how are you gonna pay him? I mean, look, I got three grandsons right now, honestly, and if I handed them cash, they would have no idea what to do with it. Because they don't deal in cash. No, they have no idea. They buy everything online. Yeah, give I give ⁓ Amazon gift cards for Christmas every year. That's what they want. They don't want cash. You know, how am I gonna buy s all right, you gave me a hundred dollars, how can I buy something off of off of Amazon with it? You know, I gotta go to some store and buy an Amazon gift card to then use it. Might as well just cut out the middleman. Give him a give him a gift card. But this but but it but my point is that people get fired up. They get fired up over nothing. ⁓ my God, those damn Democrats are trying to take our cash away from us. No they're speaker-0: Well there's a Republicans are trying to take our freedom. speaker-2: Exactly. speaker-0: Well we have we we have a lot we have a lot of hostility. speaker-2: Some of some of the Republicans are. MAGA speaker-0: Democrats are doing thing. I mean the thing is both both of them are guilty. It's not just one or the other. speaker-2: Well, absolutely are. Well and that's why we and that's why we try to have on our show. We try to call it the bullshit on both sides. speaker-1: Everyone. speaker-0: Exactly. speaker-1: War the war the war for power is always been about power. It's about power and money, money and power. Where they really speaker-0: Yeah because Exactly Exactly. Because if you have solutions there's no more reason to raise money. Exactly. If you have solutions, there's no more reason to to rein the cash flow insurance. They they want these things to keep perpetuating. speaker-2: All right, I'm gonna point out something pretty funny right now. We've been r we've been on the on the podcast now for about fifty five minutes. We have not mentioned the Iranian war one time. Which is speaker-0: The war's over. There's no more fighting. No more bombs. speaker-1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. War's been over. speaker-0: The war is over. speaker-1: He's the only one who knows speaker-0: They got no weapons, they got no military, you know, they got no navies, they got no airport speaker-2: He said this morning we're gonna sign a strong, powerful deal with the Iranian in the next two to three days. No more had the words escaped his lips, Iran shot down one of our Apache helicopters. But here's the thing. I'm not aware of a drone that Iran ⁓ might have. speaker-0: Yeah we are. Yeah. Yeah, we shrunk back. speaker-2: that could actually target an Apache helicopter. I don't that for a fact, but I think they just ran into it. I think that they I think Iran probably had ⁓ flying around and our helicopter Let me tell you, helicopters do not like they do not like drones because drones fly low, helicopters fly low, and they can't see ⁓ on radar. Exactly. So it may have just been a very unfortunate accident. I'm thankfully I speaker-0: I don't speaker-2: Thankfully two crewmen were rescued. But you know, now I also heard this was kind of interesting. So a drone supposedly brings down our helicopter and the Navy sent a drone ship, a drone boat out to rescue them. So apparently the rescue was so high risk that they did not even put humans on the rescue craft. They sent some sort of a some sort of a I don't know what it was, they had a name for it. I never I'm not I'm not a navy guy so I'm not familiar with it. But supposedly it is a remote controlled vessel that could go out there and knew where they were and was able to and they got in it and it brought ⁓ home. Which I just thought that was kind of amazing. speaker-1: This is a this the quadmar. ⁓ w we we engulf in it. ⁓ i i i there's no road map or exit ramp ramp for for the president. ⁓ he's bull he's bullheaded. He don't listen to his generals because he knows more than generals. And so therefore, this thing is gonna go on and on and on. I think that the the the it was more than symbolism what Iran is doing. It's Iran basically said Not so fast as it's like Lee Corso was saying, you know, in ⁓ on ⁓ on the old sports show is on game day, because I think that I think I think that people are starting to believe even this president that that that that Iran didn't really have any more ammo or to cause more injury. But that's why I believe beyond symbolism. speaker-0: It was game day, yeah. speaker-1: Iran was materially saying, not so fast. We got we got more than you think. And this is the thing. Where's that so called ⁓ great American intelligence that we supposed to know things before we go in or and stuff like this? 'Cause obviously we got it all wrong. Just like we you know, ⁓ we know that what Bush won did with the ⁓ what what Junior did with the with with the ⁓ I I I Iraq war. We know that was just based on lies and deception. But the difference here it was is that the ⁓ the intelligence was manipulated. Here, where is the intelligence? Because obviously Iran is doing things that nobody really thought they could do and do it this long. speaker-0: Exactly. I'm b ⁓ I'm extremely disappointed in ⁓ our inability to take them out at this level to where they should be doing anything. speaker-2: Not to worry though, Charles. We're putting Bill Poulty in charge of a of int of all of our intelligence agencies. I mean he he his granddaddy started Pulti homes. He's a he's a he's an outstanding outstanding home builder and he's been running the Federal Housing Authority for the last year or so. So yeah, he he is the grandson Sion. He trust fund baby. speaker-0: Well. speaker-1: What is that? speaker-0: Who's the last guy before who's the person before him? Who's before him? speaker-2: Tulsi Gabbard. Tulsi Gabbard at least Tulsi Gabbard had had military experience. She'd actually had held a security clearance before. Right. Yeah. And she'd handled intelligence. She'd handled information. Poulty doesn't even have a has never even had he never served the military and he does not have a security clearance. And he's fixed to be in charge well, he he will now. Yeah, he's fixed to be in charge of all of our the all of our ⁓ I mean and Trump Trump can just say, You have a security clearance, go forward and speaker-0: We wouldn't. I remember when was in Intel school when I was in the air force I was ⁓ gonna be in imagery and everything at Intel and I knew all these gunnery sergeants and they're like, If you don't have a security clearance, you'll get it now. And if you don't get it, you won't be here. So I mean speaker-2: Yeah. Well here here's here's the thing about intelligence and and you know y we remember Adam Kinzing Kinsinger. Mm-hmm. Yeah. ⁓ speaker-0: I get his articles every day on subset. speaker-2: And ⁓ did you read the one you had yesterday about Donald Trump? basically he said here's here's what Trump's problem is, and somebody needs to say it out loud. In in the fur in his first administration, he actually hired competent people. But competent people did not always agree with him. And and so then he had to fire them and and he had to learn who are his He had to teach people. speaker-0: We haven't ready yet, no. Exactly. Followers. speaker-2: That, you know, 100% unquestioned loyalty to me is the main criteria for every job. And so now, in this this second term, as Kidsner says, there are no longer any guardrails. He uses the analogy of like on the interstate, if all of a sudden you you know you get kind of tired, you get kind of bored, and your car swerves a little bit and it goes over the rumble strips and Whoa, you know, now ⁓ well, let me get back in my lane. He said, that Trump has taken away, he ⁓ he's removed off his guardrails. All he has around him now are syncophant yes people who only tell him that he's brilliant, only tell him he's doing the right thing, only tell him this is the only way to do it. And and they keep their jobs by continually kissing his ass. And and no one comes to Trump with bad news because No one everyone was afraid of being fired. You know, he's got Heg Seth, who is so eminently unqualified, you know, a major in the National Guard is now an and a and a weekend TV host is now our Secretary of Defense. It's unconscionable. It's unconscionable. And but now the work but even worse than that now is Bill Poulty going in. You know, at least Tulsi Gabbard, who was a Democrat, by the way, ran for president as a Democrat. speaker-0: So we can work. speaker-2: The the one thing I give her credit for is that after Trump started the Iranian war, she testified truthfully to Congress like the day after to say Iranian we have we have no evidence that the Iranians are serious about trying to reconstitute their nuclear program. We we have no evidence that they have even attempted to dig all the nuclear material out of the collapsed mountain. speaker-0: No eminent. speaker-2: that sits on top of their nuclear program now for after the B two strike. So they and and there is no imminent threat to the United States or anybody else from Iran's nuclear program as of today. And to me that was the most damning that was the most damning thing against Trump and this Iranian war because had he not torn up the JCPOA, which had Obama's name on it in his first term, Well, that's when Iran went nuts and their guardrails were off, inspections were gone, so they started enhancing their ballistic missile cat ta ⁓ capabilities. They started they started enriching uranium beyond what was needed for pub for ⁓ just regular industry. And that's and that's how they got to that point. It's because Trump ripped up the JCPOA. If anything Trump probably thought, well, I mean I do think it was a distraction for for Epstein, but I do think that after and and I thought the B two strike was was a brilliant move. He Israel had already taken out all the air defenses that Iran had. We could now safely send in our tr our tr our planes which are Steph technology, and we've been studying those nuclear sites for a decade. We had exactly the right and they they developed those those ⁓ bunker busters out of England Air Force Base. ⁓ they had exactly the right weapon, they knew exactly how deep they needed to go, and they were a hundred percent precision in delivering those weapons. That took out the weapons program. Now we've got s I mean even Trump said we watched those sites every day. If they did start to dig it out, we just go bomb it again. Well, fine, do that then. Why you had Iran at the negotiating table for two weeks before you attacked him. Now here we are, all right, so that started in March, so April, May, June. We're now three months. We're a hundred days plus into the war. Now the straits closed and we have Iran back at the negotiating table. Except now Iran has an advantage over us because Iran knows that politically Trump can't commit ground troops to this war. He knows he j he just n I mean, his popul his popularity is already the lowest it's ever been. Well and if he if he put boots on the ground and we started having mass casualties, I mean, they'd probably leave I mean, with the midterms coming up, it would be a clean sweep. They would they would im they would vote to impeach Trump in a heartbeat. And I think he knows that. And so now he overplayed his hand because we don't have as much military strength, especially with the Navy, to Maintain the blockade and also open the strait because they're still it's still dangerous. It's still dangerous. Tankers are not going to come across there. So Iran has played their equivalent of a nuclear weapon by saying, Okay, well they've just shut off the flow of oil, not only their oil, but also a lot of Saudi Arabia's oil, Kuwait's oil, ⁓ speaker-0: So long. Right. speaker-2: I mean it it's got they did. And and and ⁓ Trump overplayed his hand and now he's stuck. 'Cause you can't tell me that he sat down a hundred days ago and said, Okay, well here's how this war is gonna play out. We're gonna we're gonna blow the crap out of ⁓ for the first two weeks. They're gonna call a ceasefire and then we're just gonna let them keep the straight closed for another three months while gas is at five doll ⁓ four dollars and five diesel's at five dollars a gallon. He never he never foresaw that. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-2: And now and now but now that's where he is because he had a bunch of yes men telling him, Sure, go ahead and do it, sir. It's all yeah. What can you do mil well militarily we can accomplish every military objective you give us. But military was only go so far. speaker-0: Strategically Exactly. We we're strategically we're dropping the ball somewhere. speaker-2: If you want regime change, we've got to we've got to put an invasion together. If you want to if you want to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, we have to invade. We have to have the Marines and the Army go in building by building and do just what we did in Iraq with probably the same results that nobody wants. speaker-1: Then they try to put in Who what was the guy they tried to put in? They suggested the the the front man that the ⁓ the ⁓ that the you know the the Supreme I Iran leader had shut him up some years ago 'cause he was talking all kind of too much crazy stuff. ⁓ I'm a dealer what is the name speaker-2: I'm a denim job. Yeah. And that that was who Trump wanted to put back in speaker-1: Yeah. And he was the guy that's talking the most radical, insane stuff. He was so radical that that that that the Supreme. And that's who you that's who he warns up the the to put back in power. Can't make this stuff up. You just speaker-2: Back on the You speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-2: really is. And Trump goes out and tells the Iranian people, you know, get ready to take your country back 'cause we're fixing to blow ⁓ to kingdom and come and just take your country back. We're here, we're com we've got your back. No we don't speaker-0: It hasn't worked yet. speaker-1: You know, you know what I think is interesting. Well, I was reading something a couple of days ago where ⁓ Japan has been really quiet over the last year. But Japan is basically ⁓ sending a signal that, you know, that they're not they're not supporting Americanness. And number two, that if America don't stop what they're doing, they're threatening to cash in on our debt. And Japan is the gr ⁓ great holder of American debt. Which would really be economically nuclear for us. It's very interesting. We losing our allies. We're losing our ⁓ NATO NATO allies that everybody hates us now. Literally. Yep. Yep. Literally. We we got no friends. We we'll we isolated. No one really likes us anymore. Britain don't even like speaker-0: ⁓ we we we we can tell everybody. I was great media. The media hates ⁓ us. speaker-1: Mm. They're both. speaker-2: Spent three I spent three weeks in Mexico last year and I will tell you that every time you pass the T shirt shop there's something in Spanish that does not translate well for Donald Trump on the front. Yeah. Several speaker-0: I imagine in Mexico there that will be true. Yeah. I imagine in the area where that's one of our speaker-2: But yet that is that was that was one of our big trading partners was Mexico and speaker-0: got through NAFTA, yeah, you're right. We give all the jobs away, yeah. speaker-2: You think Canada's happy with us right now? Nope. I think Great Great Britain, France speaker-0: I definitely. speaker-1: Yeah, no, no, but speaker-0: I honestly can't say who's happier now until I go there and talk to the money to do speaker-2: See did you see that? Hegseth went to Normandy to celebrate the ⁓ D Day invasion of Long J on June the sixth. And he gave a speech, and in the speech he equated the invasion of illegals into Germany and France and Great Britain with our invasion of France to kick out speaker-0: Right. speaker-2: Germans and he was saying that this was ours was a good invasion, but you have allowed this bad invasion. So why why can't you just go why can't you just talk about the United States being a liberating army? You know, we've never continued to occupy property or occupy a country after we've liberated it from a a Nazi rule, a fascist rule. And why can't you just celebrate that? Yeah, why not? There's there's a lot there's a lot of good. You know, France actually gave the United States the land that is at the ⁓ at the Utah Beach Cemetery and also Point DuHoc, though that's actually now American territory that was given to us by France because the sacrifice of our soldiers on those days. Why can't we talk about that? Yeah, why why can't we talk about the fact that that we would not even have a country today had it not been for France is assisting us in not only the revolutionary war but also the war of eighteen twelve. I mean, we've got a lot in common with France that you could ⁓ find speaker-0: Yeah. People overlook it a lot. speaker-2: An ⁓ a an encyclopedia of things that are good to talk about when you're at the D the commemoration of D Day at Normandy without getting pull up. speaker-0: Exactly. You got social liberty for God's sakes. Well speaker-2: ⁓ God, did you hear did you and Charles probably saw this in in one of the lawsuits that that Trump's trying to fight off, I I think from about the ballroom, ⁓ and as the are as the attorneys were arguing over this, the judge 'cause 'cause 'cause the attorney was arguing that as the president, Trump has authority over all of the government properties. And he and he can do with government properties as he wishes. And so the judge says, So are you saying that if if the president decided he wanted to tear down the Statue of Liberty, he could? And the judge said Sure. speaker-0: Really? So speaker-2: Sure. Yeah. ⁓ A D. O. J. a p attorney told a judge that in their opinion, if Trump wants to tear down the Statue of Liberty, he absolutely can. See speaker-1: Why that old Greg. speaker-0: I agree. That's that's wild. speaker-1: Projecting this. He's been saying he's gonna do these kind of things. It's not surprising and he's doing them. Just like with the election, he's talking about the election of California. He's projecting that. And I've been telling y'all forever that he has no intentions on leaving ⁓ the White House. That's why he's got that ballroom stuff going on. He's not putting those billions of dollars in there just to go play golf on his own resource. It's not happening. He has no intention on leaving. And that's why he's gonna call he's gonna see see he's been hanging around, you know, ⁓ where he used to hang around is a n North ⁓ North North Korea dictator and different people like Putin. So he he's fascinated with that kind of dictator kind of he's ri i i i i it just does something to his mind. But ⁓ so he really thinks that he's gonna claim a war, claim voter fraud speaker-0: He's leaving speaker-1: suspend the election so he can remain in power. I mean a third grade can figure this out. This this is not no speaker-0: Okay, no, no, no, no, no. speaker-2: I think that's why he's so he's so emphatic about keeping the House representatives because he knows he's gonna have a constitutional and amendment to give him a third term. And it needs to start in the House of Representatives. Yeah. And that's and that's why he's gotta have a majority there. In addition to a bunch of other things like he don't want to get impeached again and he doesn't he wanna he don't want all these other kind of things. So well we're probably running a little bit over. I know our producer usually is supposed to keep up with speaker-0: Yeah, there's one. Yeah, we're good. speaker-2: So ⁓ speaker-0: We're actually running kinda short right now. speaker-2: Mm-hmm. speaker-1: That that that vo that put ten thousand pounds of of of passion in in Greg. Whenever you mention that voter fraud, man, that's his thing. speaker-0: More price. Yeah, I'm sorry, you know what it's not my ⁓ the algorithm hates it. So I mean, you know, we we talk about butter fraud and the algorithm suppresses every single thing because YouTube's like, ⁓ my god, you can't talk about that. And so ⁓ I mean the the the entire bots out there who are editorializing every single thing that we're saying and are picking the and w choosing the winners and losers of our conversations, though they're not supposed to, they really are. But what every time we do talk about butter fraud on this show or any show ⁓ Part of we have the political matrix news on the other side with me and Scott Miller and when we talk about it. It's like, you know, you look at the stats on YouTube, you'll see like a thousand views, eight hundred views, three hundred views. When you talk about Ludifry, you got two views or one view. And it's not because all of a sudden you have, you know, an average of like ten or fifteen thousand people a week looking at yourself or or this one show or something, and then you just go to three. It's not because The you know, it just schemed that way, it's because it's suppressed. I mean, that's what the algorithm does. It finds the ⁓ metadata and anything we talk about that they think might be fraudulent or hypothetical or conspiracy theory or anything that might challenge the authority of because it's just not, you know. And you know, you mentioned the Heritage Foundation, you mentioned this. I mean, every group has their study. I really don't care about the groups who have their studies. I I like to ha have somebody pay us to do our own study. I think that'd be great because you know, I think we could commission a study here. We're all three independent guys and I got two other independent guys over there. I mean, you know, I think the whole idea here is that to to I mean you're right. Voter fraud is not just about the votes, it's about voter suppression. It's about voter manipulation. It's about, you know, basically, you know, controlling the narratives. I mean there's a reason why speaker-2: I think what Trump is doing though, Greg, is I think speaker-0: He's misused in the terminology. Okay, he's Ody eighty years old and he hasn't he hasn't choose his words properly. I will I will say that. Because you know he's the president. I don't care. I don't really care who he is. I mean he he's not using the words properly. I mean and the thing is that there is voter fraud on a very high level but and a very mid level and a very low level. But I'm not saying as levels I'm not defining levels as far as big or great. I'm talking about levels as far as where that where it's at. And so I mean, you know, heck, you know, I mean speaker-2: That speaker-0: Yeah, you have backroom deals that ⁓ you know, that money in our campaign finance influences elections and in many ways that, you know, i i the guys who are broke can't compete, you know, and so is that voter suppression, is that voter manipulation? Yeah, it could be or maybe it couldn't be. I mean, the reality is you probably shouldn't run for office if you can't afford to win. That's one thing I do tell every candidate running. I mean, if you if you're running and you can't put three pennies together, you shouldn't be running. No, I mean the reality here is that campaigns do cost money and you not knowing that means that you sh probably shouldn't be in that game until you get in that game to know that. But that being said, if everything's all equal, then you know, you have to look at, you know, we we had a campaign, this is yeah, once again, I've been involved in a lot of weird stuff. But we we ⁓ we gave money to a advertising I have a ad agency, we gave money to a outlet to run our commercial. They were paid more money not to run our commercial. They they they went ahead and put ran all of our ads on the two channels we chose told them to do it on. And we they did five ads an hour for like, you know, basically thirty eight hours. And we won the election with sixty five percent of the vote. And we only had five thousand dollars. They had three hundred thousand dollars. We got sixty five percent of the vote, they got thirty five. But, you know, the thing was that they were trying to make sure that nobody knew our election happened. Whenever we went to do direct mail, we ⁓ mailed out a lot of stuff, but we also found mailers in a dumpster. And that did happen and not just a rumored campaign, but that happened in my campaign that I was involved in as a petition driver. This is two thousand six when it happened. And so I mean, you know, wh whenever people say it doesn't happen, I just know that if it happens to little old me in one little itty bitty town in Florida, you multiply it by sixty. Well it's happening in Chicago. Exactly. It's happening at every level in every different area. And if it's happening in some area where, you know, it just has to do with a little bit of funding here and there, in areas where you got billions of dollars on the line or hundreds of billions of dollars on the line of contracts, the contractors always win. And and and and and they fund these things to keep the contracts and the gravy train going. 'Cause when the gravy train stops and some other guy gets elected and he gives his buddy a contract. Or somebody else's contract, you know, i it it shifts the entire narrative and it shifts the whole field. And so I mean, yeah, the algorithm doesn't like talking about it. And when you talk about voter fraud, it's not just the ballots, it's the entire the the whole political system here, the and how it's operated and how un unfair it is and actually how untransparent it is. It needs to be more transparent, in my opinion. speaker-1: Let me let me change change gears a little bit and and 'cause a very interesting Tony take on on our park my podcast, ⁓ Tony we was talking about this idea that very it's not getting the media attention that it should get, where Netanyahu, the the leader of ⁓ i the state of Israel, literally has had the GOP and their proposed budget now to how the United States military and i i Israel military work. Merge ⁓ together. So in my view, the reason for that would be you won't have to go back to Congress now because a lot of Americans are tired of these endless wars led by Israel and Nyahoo. So you don't have to go get spending requests if it i i i if you can get this little paragraph in one of the ⁓ budget bills that they was trying to ⁓ to ⁓ sneak through. And had it not been for one of the Democrat representative, I forget who it was, w the American people wouldn't even known this. But it was done by the instruction that and y'all speaker-2: ⁓ so I know exactly what you're talking about, and I and I don't know the Democrat, but I know Thomas Massey brought this up and he promised that this and it's not just some little budget bill, it is the National Defense Authorization Act. Yeah. It is it is the it is the big budget. And that and basically it's not a merger, but but they but they discuss ⁓ enhancing synchronization between our two militaries. And ⁓ and I actually called a friend of mine who is a retired general and knows stuff like that. I said, Explain this to me. And and he said, Well, you know, we've we you know, through NATO, this would basically bring Israel about like a NATO ally. Because we synchronize our you know, we have a lot of training together. Of course we train together we we don't do a lot of training with Israel. We do a lot. We mostly train their guys. They go back and do their thing. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-2: But ⁓ but this would be more this would be more training, this would be more cooperation and and would also mean we would now be involved in they would be involved in weapons development, ⁓ airplanes, missiles, bombs, and they would be almost like hand in hand, just like we are with Great Britain and Germany mostly, because those are probably our two biggest NATO allies as far as having a strong military France is not as strong as ⁓ as ⁓ Great Britain and Germany's military is. But ⁓ yeah, that was ⁓ interesting and and you know, ⁓ one thing that was in ⁓ Trump's ⁓ meet the press interview that because of him storming out, that really kinda wound up being all the headlines. But you know, one one thing that she asked him was about the JCPOA that he ripped up that Obama had done with ⁓ with Iran. Along with several other a ⁓ along with sever several other allies of ours. Right. And ⁓ she reminded him at the time when he tore it up, he said that he was gonna force them to sign a better deal. But then he did but then he didn't, he just dropped it. And of course it was not picked up by Biden at all. Biden just kinda let Iran do whatever Iran was gonna do. And she said and she basically said, Why didn't you go back and ever try to get a better deal? First thing out of his mouth was Israel wasn't ready. And I thought, Holy crap But Israel wasn't wasn't ready. speaker-0: Yeah, I know. You know he also said Rand wasn't ready. speaker-2: He also said Iran wasn't ready, but Iran was pissed off because they t because we tore the thing up to begin with. But but that's just also Trump probably talking out of his ass, honestly. Because how do we know that Iran wasn't ready? Because we never tried, because Israel wasn't ready. speaker-1: You can't believe what he says, Tony. ⁓ speaker-0: You know, my my whole thing here with the ⁓ my whole thing is that yeah, I do support Israel on a lot of different levels. However, I do not support it at this kind of level. I mean, it's kind of ironic to me that all the Republicans who are against being in the UN and they don't want to ⁓ be part of NATO and everything else, and they're so willing to jump in bed with somebody else. I mean, why can't we just let the military handle the military and we don't work with anybody or being, you know, basically ⁓ policy wise, don't be married. to any other nation. I mean, granted, NATO is important because we're part of that, but you know, us having to to to mandate that we share secrets or share funding or or share weaponry and everything else with them, I don't think I don't know if we go to that level. I do know that pretty much everything with NATO that's done is done through our military, coming 'cause our military is the dominant portion of NATO and as well as the UN. Anything done with UN peacekeepers is done through primarily America as well. But, you know, Israel is not the Israel just is a nation. It is not a a collaboration of nations like that. And so for us to put them at the same level as a collaborative team like that, yeah, I think I see that a lot of hypocrisy here and a lot of confusion on on the the Republicans who are trying to steer away from this. I'm like, what are y'all doing? I mean, you know, I I I I do support, you know, Israel to a d degree. Now we I talked about this in Charles's show about I I don't agree with it being a segregated state, but at the same time I also think that if, you know, you want to live in Israel, you shouldn't live there to to want to kill all the Jews either. Or to kill all the Palestinians, or to kill everybody. I mean, I'm against all the killing of all of I I I'm against all the hate. I think it's all the way around. ⁓ Jews want to kill all the Palestinians, Palestinians want to I mean everybody that has this here millennium feud here. It's you know, I have no idea when it's gonna stop. I wish it would stop soon. I don't think it's gonna stop in any of our lifetimes. But you know, I wish it would. It'd be great if it did. speaker-2: Well, I've talked about this on our show before too, you know, I think it's that so many people, so many conservatives have ⁓ a knee-jerk reaction to support Israel because God's chosen people. And you know the way I read the Bible, you know, God's chosen people, that pretty well ended at the old testament. And it changed with the birth of Christ. speaker-0: ⁓ play or speaker-2: Because we all became Jaws co Joseph. ⁓ if we become a and and yes, I'm a Christian and I believe in the New Testament, I believe in Christ and and and I don't I don't begrudge anybody else's ⁓ religion, ⁓ and I don't begrudge their beliefs. That's how they believe, this is how I believe, and I don't want them to impin impinge upon how I believe, and I'm not gonna impinge on how they believe either. But I will just say this that to speaker-0: Exactly. We offered you, yeah. speaker-2: give unaltering allegiance to the nation of Israel. I love I love Israel because they're a democracy. They are a democracy in the Middle East. They deserve I think every democracy deserves our support. I think Ukraine as a democracy deserves our support. And and Russia is not a democracy. So anytime anytime a democracy is challenged by a a a anocratic government speaker-0: What was that? So speaker-2: I think that the United States should be there to help them, maybe not to say with troops on the ground, but certainly with weapons, with intelligence, with with money, with anything we can possibly do to help save a democracy. ⁓ I wanna save the d I want to save the country of Israel at because they're a democracy, not because they're God's chosen people, because I think that they rejected Christ. I think they rejected speaker-0: The speaker-1: Not God chose people. speaker-2: And and I don't and I and I know that I know I know though I know that Revelation talks about the ch about the children of Israel and and yeah, the hundred and forty four thousand that come out and I and I got all that. But at the same time we we don't know how much of, you know, Revelation is symbolic and how much of it is literal. I don't think it's a very literal this I I may be fixing it lightning struck here, but I don't I don't think that the armies of heaven will literally be riding white horses when they come in. I mean, I I do believe my horses are going to heaven. I don't think they'd be it would be complete without my horses. So I like to tell people, hor at least the horses will be there because the armies of heaven got to have something to ride on. ⁓ But at the same time I think that is a a figurative point. I don't know that they will literally be riding horses. That's a lot of grain and a lot of poop to deal with. And they gotta all be white. So so I think that but but going back to Israel, I w I'm glad they got their country after World War Two. ⁓ I wanna support them as a democracy, but I do not want to cede our own independence and our own nation's ⁓ well being to every whim that they have. ⁓ you know, if if you know, if if they want to take on the Iran I want to give them all the weapons and all the all the planes they can that they can that they can handle. But I don't want to lose the oil supply. ⁓ I would much rather Israel live in as much peace as they possibly can. I'd rather Iran live in as much peace as they possibly can. ⁓ Saudi Arabia, UAE, Syria, all all the Egypt. You know, Egypt Egypt used to be the big enemy of our Israel of Israel. And we and Israel hasn't had a good war with it with Egypt in, you know, fifty years now. So It can be done. ⁓ you can have two different faiths ⁓ with two different nations and they can exist, but but Israel needs to take a little bit more ⁓ and I like the fact that we've stopped Iran, we we stop Hezbollah, ⁓ we stop Hamas. I mean but a but a lot of times Israel asks for some of this because of how they treat people. speaker-1: Israel has nuclear weapons, Israel is usually the aggressor and even i it like it's almost if like, you know, and just take a basic, you know, legal situation like if two people get into a fight, if someone like, you know, ⁓ like slap you or something, you you don't have a legal right in most cases to then turn around and shoot the person and kill. You have exceeded the force. And w even when Israel is not aggressive, they take it to ten thousand percent worse than it needs to be. That's the problem. And we and me and Greg, we talked about on on my show, is that we we as Americans can't be funding this stuff. We can't put you know, the the question is, can we stop this? I don't know, but we can definitely slow it down without this stupid spending that we keep doing. We are literally funding this stuff to the extent where they have free health care, they have free this, free that. And American people can't even put food and gas in their car because they broke. And so wise up. speaker-2: They spend a lot of money on political campaigns too. speaker-1: Yes, APAC. APAC rules the Democrat, the Independent, and the Republican Party. They got a stronghold on on on American taxpayers' money. speaker-0: All right. speaker-1: Yeah, they do. speaker-2: I did see just now that Platiner won his ⁓ race and ⁓ so he'll go up aga he'll go against Susan Collins. I was watching one of the ⁓ news shows, I forget which one now 'cause I watch all of ⁓ but they were talking to ⁓ women voters ⁓ that were at the polls today about who they were voting for and why. And one lady said s said she didn't care who won the Democrat nomination, she said because I'm probably gonna mess the quote up, but basically she said I would I would vote for a doorknob over Susan Collins. I've never heard that before. ⁓ speaker-1: Right. speaker-0: Well, speaker-2: Guess I so I guess at least platinum's gonna be better than a doorknob. So speaker-0: Well you know she's not been there for thirty years, so speaker-1: Yeah, yeah. She has and and and and and and one of the things ⁓ that ⁓ that that trigger something that you y w y'all was talking about earlier, Tony and Greg. ⁓ last week, Tony, you were giving great kudos and at the time I thought you was correctly right, to some of the Republican senators for this you call it well, I they call the anti weapons ⁓ form that That that seventeen, seventy-six billion dollar ⁓ bond. I call it repro reparation for criminals, but that's just my my take on it. However however you phrase it, right? ⁓ the bottom line is that Senator Woon, ⁓ Thume ⁓ and a couple others that we were all kind of giving kudos for standing up against this president ⁓ for for for how that looked and all that. Date li in the last week every frickin one of ⁓ speaker-2: Back it off. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-2: Trump Trump Trump doubled down. Trump doubled down. He still thinks a great idea. Yeah. So ⁓ speaker-0: Yeah, well, you know, I mean it's facts fair it's taxpayer funded money for taxpayers. He got screwed by taxpayers. And so I mean whatever, guys. I mean granted, you know, i i if if if you want to stop at one point seven seven six billion, I mean, come on. If you already want to talk about how much money the government owes all of us for misusing and malfeasance, I what are we, forty trillion in debt? And a lot more. I mean I mean speaker-2: That's twenty thousand dollars for every man, woman, child and baby. speaker-0: Exactly. So where's my money? Can you imagine? speaker-2: Imagine when a when a new baby is born, that baby is responsible for one hundred twenty five thousand dollars a speaker-0: January wrong. January speaker-1: Th that the video these guys doing criminal acts in our the people's houses that we elected defecating and all kinda crazy. speaker-2: Ever didn't ⁓ Welker said that well, you know, the FBI was escorting people in no they were speaker-0: They might have. Who knows? I had that speaker-2: They had they had they had confidential informants in the crowd. It is and some of those CIs went into the into the into the into the building but it was not under not under the FBIs. And besides, who was in charge of the FBI at the time? speaker-0: Comey. Josh James Comey. James Comey. speaker-2: Donald Tommy had been Tommy had been his his FBI director for all four years. speaker-1: Exactly. speaker-0: Anyway. Anyway, my my point is I actually agree with you guys on this one here. I do ⁓ I do think that, you know, the the whole idea of giving money and this is where I think Trump screwed up on the ⁓ when she was asking him the question ⁓ about, you know, well the January sixth people will get the money. I'm like if first of all there were a lot of January six people that were there that did not get arrested. And so not all of them got arrested. And so the ones who were actually peaceful demonstrators who were doing stuff that were not illegal Although, you know, it probably shouldn't have been there 'cause I know a few of the people that were there and I'm like, what the heck were you thinking? You know, I mean I actually was trying to rent a car to go up there to get video of all the idiots who are doing it. But ⁓ you know, that being said, I didn't get to make it up there. But ⁓ but the the people who are peaceful, yeah, I mean, you know, if you wanna give them money for showing up and I whatever. But giving money to people who are arrested? For anything. I mean, first of all, you're stupid enough to get arrested, stupid enough to break down a door, you know. I I I disagree with it, Charles, that I mean criminals shouldn't be voting, criminals should be getting money. You know, no nobody's getting it in in and there should be getting inequality. They shouldn't get part of it. It was an insurrection. They were there too. And ⁓ I mean the thing is, I mean, they were talking about hanging the vice president and and a lot of people were weren't even there for the election. A lot of them were there just to disrupt speaker-2: The certification of that. speaker-0: And ⁓ and to break into the the senators' offices and to steal paperwork and shred paperwork. I mean, there's a lot of other stuff being done than besides protesting and a lot of people have no idea exactly what And the same reason why, you know, the Summer of La with all the Black Lives Matter protests all around the country, and all the different terrorist action ⁓ within Tifa all around the country and all the protests with all the college campuses all around the country. The same reason why we all get outraged about all that should not negate The fact that just because these guys are are fighting for something that we like, we should just give them an excuse. No. Doing that in any capacity, at any level, violating property, destroying property, hurting people, trying to assassinate people or kill people, or damaging anything at any level is bad. It doesn't matter if you're on the left or on the right. We all have the right to peacefully protest, peacefully. We all have the right to have signs, we all have the right to chant. But once you start intimidating people, Coercing people, hurting people, breaking down buildings, breaking down doors, no matter what party you're in, who you are, it's wrong. speaker-1: Yeah, that is wrong. Absolutely. And and then there are laws that we regulation. speaker-0: We have Republicans should be saying, Well, Democrats were doing that, Black Lives Mirror was in there, Thomas is doing that, so we should be doing that. I'm like, No, it doesn't I don't give a dag gum who's doing it. Everybody got let off the hook that year. You know, I mean a lot of prosecutions did not happen in Seattle, a lot of prosecutions did not happen in Michigan, a lot of prosecutions did not happen in in Detroit and Chicago and New York and LA and Colorado. And DC and DC and D C pick a pick a protest. I mean, we have a history here of but you know, at the same time, you don't reward ⁓ either. You don't reward this behavior. And it's disgusting on all sides. ⁓ speaker-1: Yeah, right there's no when when you when you free the freest nation and democracy on the earth and everybody seeing you know the the the the capital, the the I mean both how Exactly. I mean the whole world saw this and they're like what wrong speaker-0: Location, location, location. Exactly. The whole world the whole world saw Memphis burning down too. The whole world saw LA burning. I mean, you're right. Because it happened at the Capitol, you know, i in and the optics were far worse. However, it does not still take away the fact that the optics still should still be the same, no matter where in the heck you're at in this country, destroying police precincts, destroying courthouses, destroying private property. Because you I mean, you're talking about what they did at the people's house and the capital and what they did. But we're also talking about I'm I'm trying to equate it and actually draw draw the parallel here to where the where's the outrage to where all the damage that was done to private property and private buildings and private businesses. And you should agree with me on that. Because it's gotta stop, period. And people just wanna say this only one side should stop. It should be both sides stopping. speaker-1: Jack. You don't have the right to destroy property and if you do that, that's criminal. And there's laws that put you in prison and make you pay healthy fine for doing that. D regards of what political that's irrevolent. You just speaker-2: You speaker-0: Exactly. Yeah, we got video no you you're right. We got videotape of all of it. We got lots of video. I mean, we could sit here and watch a video that would last fifty podcasts for us, you know. Yeah. Actually our podcast is two hours, so I mean probably a hundred podcasts worth of hours of video that we could w that we could translate over since the ⁓ b two thousand. Let's just pick from the Al Gore George W. Bush recount all the way from then till till now. I mean, we've had protests and demonstrations all the way from the last twenty six years that l you know of of on video you got Occupy Wall Street, you got the Tea Parties, you got Antifa, you got the you know, you know, like the Promise Keepers were pr actually pretty peaceful. And that was actually in the early nineties and everything. The Promise Keepers were kind of quiet guys. You know, the the Million Man March was very peaceful. I mean actually with ⁓ Farrakhan and and all that and throughout D C that's extremely good protests and the good demonstrations. The no king protests have been pretty crazy. They've been good this year. Last year they were a little crazy. Well, the only balance we see is what the media tells us, okay? So if you go grab a camera, you might see some crazy people. You know what? They can't cover all three hundred rallies. They could only cover eight or nine of the rallies. ⁓ speaker-2: We're gonna on both sides, so. speaker-0: There was a lot of No Kings rallies, man. Okay. There was everybody out there for the No King's. They they they they brought the King of England. They th they love that king, but they don't like the other king who's not a king. They like the king who is a king. And so it's all the king of your choice. It's like, you know, whenever they had a radio commercial in the sixties, vote for the candy of your choice, just vote Kennedy. You know, you got Bobby Kennedy, you got Ted Kennedy, you got JFK, you know. Just pick a candy and vote for a candy. speaker-1: But they're endorsing. speaker-0: But pick a king and vote for a king. You know, you don't like a king, you do like a king. No, it's all subjective. So what kid do you like? That's just my thought. I could be wrong. I don't like any of them either. speaker-2: Well like A I definitely don't like King Donald. speaker-0: He's not a king. He's president Donald Trump. He's not gonna be there for two more years. Okay. What year are we we're in? Twenty twenty six now. We're halfway through twenty twenty six. You got a year and a half left, and that's about No, he's not gonna be around forever. ⁓ speaker-1: Let me ask you this question. Well, let me ask let me ask you this this quick question, Greg. If you do everything that a king does in your actions, and does it matter if you if you're called a king? If you're exercising the power of a king? And so speaker-0: the power of the president the powers of the president of the United States have been more has more powers than the King of England by far. Because the King of England is all ceremonial. Most kings are ceremonial, in fact. I mean a lot of say a lot of kings don't have anything to do with the policies or the legislation of their states anymore. Yeah. I mean ⁓ most of the ⁓ they they they they work in tangent with a with a parliament or some other force of form of act more Like, Trump doesn't want to get rid of this. He does, but he's not gonna get it. You know, I mean he he's not gonna get it. They are. But once the legislative l branch is like, you know, any time you have all one party power, like we had a Democrat Congress and he had Obama, he had it that way. We had a Republican Congress, he had W, he had it that way. He had the Patriot Act. speaker-2: Almost like King Henry the Eighth, so And thank God for the J. speaker-0: Everything. I said I have a one party rule. ⁓ speaker-1: think that in my view scoters is a thousand times worse than him. They allow they they allow him to be above the law. They allow a felony to run. They they they're they're going against judicial precedence that they op they b they become an activist in a way that we've never seen. They're not following nothing. They're clearly a political organization now. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah, clearly. speaker-1: There's no doubt about it. speaker-2: It's all it's all politics, Charles. It's all politics. Everything three all three branches have politics to it. Yeah. What we'll say about the SCOTUS though is that I think that they I think they realize that they overreached when they granted him such broad powers because he really has not had a very good record here lately. Course course Trump is in the you give me an inch and we'll take a mile mode. So they gave him and he took twenty miles. speaker-0: They're point about politics they're also. Yeah, yeah. speaker-2: And now he they've been spanking his hands because he's lost on the tra on the tariffs. He's gonna lose this immigration thing. I can almost guarantee it when that ruling comes out. I listen I listened to that hearing, I I listened to some of the things that they said. ⁓ birthright citizenship. speaker-0: What immigration is? Well yeah, we'll lose on that one. speaker-2: So but those were two of those were two of his big things. And the Terrace was really he Terrace were really he's been he's still pissed off about losing Terrorist. I'm talking about the tariffs that he did though. ⁓ speaker-0: I know, but he's been talking about his need and desire for terror since the late eighties. And somebody speaker-2: This is where broad rails had come off. Somebody should have and they probably did sit down and talk to him because he had comp he had some competent people in the first term, but they're all gone. He's just got a bunch of syncopat yes men now. And they probably said, Well Mr. President, just do it and if we lose, then we at least try it. So but but so so Trump does things without thinking about consequences. And and the te speaker-0: But speaker-2: You know, he and of course he he talks about the the the farmers when he was up in Wisconsin and the meeting and and and again he lied because he said that he gave the farmers twenty eight billion dollars and China paid for it. Well, no, China didn't pay for it. The American public paid for it. So speaker-0: It was, yeah. It is. I guess I guess we're going guess what we're gonna go ahead and call it an eye here, guys. I think ⁓ we're past everybody's bedtime here. But the cool thing is that this is on YouTube. It's gonna be on every platform. ⁓ we are on I guess twelve platforms and we appreciate you guys chiming in, disagreeing with us, agreeing with us, having fun with us. We actually have a new system now. speaker-2: Yeah. All right. speaker-0: Where we're gonna be ⁓ sitting up to where we're gonna be able to respond to your replies a lot more and respond to your comments. And so we're getting that built into the ⁓ cake right now. But we appreciate it, guys. Stay tuned for the next episode. We got plenty of different shows on this platform, which is now the PowerPox Media Network. We got ⁓ Charles's show, which is Kingdom Revelations, and ⁓ or is it Revelation Kingdom? I I I I sit the name back on our calling those are Charles. And ⁓ And and so ⁓ just stay tuned for the next week here. We also got meet the candidate issues here where we interview different candidates all across the country and the region and ⁓ small races and little races because people need to know exactly what's going on. Because, you know, they they we you know everybody just wants to hide and we wanna expose everybody out there. So y'all stay tuned and y'all have a great evening. Thanks for joining me and I'll see you next week. Thanks, Charles. Good night, guys. Good night, Charles and Tony. speaker-1: Night everybody.