Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / The END of America WITHOUT a Filibuster; What's at Stake in this Election
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome.
- 0:01Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with
- 0:04Speaker 2: you as always and Senator this is one of those
- 0:07Speaker 2: shows that I really hope people grab their pins, their
- 0:10Speaker 2: paper and they're gonna hopefully learn a lot, and it's
- 0:14Speaker 2: gonna deal with something that we're gonna break down. It's
- 0:17Speaker 2: the threat of ending the filibuster. Now, people hear that
- 0:20Speaker 2: word and some of these two like I don't know
- 0:22Speaker 2: what it means. We're gonna explain it to you and
- 0:24Speaker 2: what this new threat from Kamala Harris means to this country,
- 0:28Speaker 2: to the Republic, to democracy in general.
- 0:32Speaker 1: That's exactly right.
- 0:33Speaker 3: We are going to explain in this podcast today we
- 0:37Speaker 3: are less than forty days out from the elections. What
- 0:41Speaker 3: are the stakes of the election, and in particular, I
- 0:44Speaker 3: want to talk about what the stakes are if God forbid,
- 0:47Speaker 3: the Democrats win the White House, the House, and the Senate,
- 0:51Speaker 3: and we are literally one vote away from ending the
- 0:57Speaker 3: basic liberties we enjoy in America, from ending our democracy
- 1:02Speaker 3: as we know. And I'm going to lay out exactly
- 1:04Speaker 3: why that's the case and how we are one vote
- 1:07Speaker 3: away from that happening.
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- 2:45Speaker 2: when people hear the word filibuster, it seems like it's
- 2:49Speaker 2: like inside baseball. You go back, you're watching an old
- 2:51Speaker 2: episode of The West Wing, which you and I love,
- 2:54Speaker 2: but we're political junkies, and a lot of people just
- 2:57Speaker 2: tune out, like I don't even know what they're talking about.
- 2:59Speaker 2: So let's break down what the filibuster is, what its
- 3:04Speaker 2: intent is, why we had it in the first place,
- 3:07Speaker 2: and then why Kama Harris is threatening to get rid
- 3:09Speaker 2: of it.
- 3:11Speaker 3: Well, the filibuster is actually very simple to understand. It
- 3:15Speaker 3: is the requirement in the US Senate that in order
- 3:18Speaker 3: to proceed on major legislation, you need sixty votes. You
- 3:23Speaker 3: can't just proceed with fifty votes, but you need a
- 3:26Speaker 3: super majority. You need sixty out of one hundred. There
- 3:29Speaker 3: are one hundred senators, and almost any major legislation to
- 3:33Speaker 3: go forward, you've got to get sixty votes. What it
- 3:35Speaker 3: forces you to do is on most major issues to
- 3:38Speaker 3: get bipartisan support. It prevents Democrats when they get in office,
- 3:44Speaker 3: from enacting a radical agenda. Now there's another meaning of
- 3:48Speaker 3: the word filibuster. It's the one many people think of,
- 3:51Speaker 3: and they think of the old movie mister Smith goes
- 3:53Speaker 3: to Washington, and they think of Jimmy Stewart standing on
- 3:56Speaker 3: the Senate floor and talking and talking and talking. And
- 3:59Speaker 3: it's true a philibuster. Or you'll recall my first year
- 4:01Speaker 3: in the Senate, I did a twenty one hour filibuster.
- 4:05Speaker 3: I stood on the floor of the Senate. I did
- 4:07Speaker 3: not sit down. I did not leave the floor of
- 4:09Speaker 3: the Senate. I did not go to the bathroom. That's
- 4:12Speaker 3: actually the most frequent question I get no, you cannot
- 4:15Speaker 3: go to the bathroom because you cannot leave the floor
- 4:16Speaker 3: of the Senate for twenty one hours.
- 4:20Speaker 2: And a pro tip, right, do not wear cowboy boots.
- 4:22Speaker 2: I think someone told you that, if I remember the story.
- 4:25Speaker 3: Correctly, well it was actually if you remember in twenty thirteen,
- 4:28Speaker 3: Ran Paul earlier in the year had done an eleven
- 4:32Speaker 3: hour filibuster and he was sharing some thoughts on it,
- 4:36Speaker 3: and he said, Number one what he said was wear
- 4:38Speaker 3: comfortable shoes, which was really good advice. I wear cowboy
- 4:42Speaker 3: boots almost every single day in the Senate. The day
- 4:45Speaker 3: of my filibuster, I went the day before and bought
- 4:47Speaker 3: black tennis shoes, and I wore black tennis shoes. And
- 4:50Speaker 3: I actually have to admit, ben I confessed on the
- 4:53Speaker 3: floor of the Senate mid filibuster. I apologized to the
- 4:56Speaker 3: people of Texas that I lacked to wear my boots
- 5:01Speaker 3: for twenty one hours and so but the tennis shoes
- 5:03Speaker 3: did save my calves. The other thing Rand said, and
- 5:09Speaker 3: this was excellent advice. He said he wasn't taken down
- 5:11Speaker 3: by his legs, he was taken down by his bladder,
- 5:14Speaker 3: and that was very good advice. And look I didn't know.
- 5:18Speaker 3: I don't know if you ever tried to go twenty
- 5:19Speaker 3: one hours without going to the restroom.
- 5:20Speaker 1: It's not something long time. That's just a long time.
- 5:23Speaker 3: So let me give a very simple principle, nothing in,
- 5:26Speaker 3: nothing out there you go in the entire course of
- 5:29Speaker 3: twenty one hours. I drank one very small glass of
- 5:32Speaker 3: water and that that helped.
- 5:37Speaker 2: But I ask a personal note here, with what point
- 5:39Speaker 2: were you just looking at the clock? Like when did
- 5:42Speaker 2: you when was your first time in your head when
- 5:45Speaker 2: you thought about tapping out?
- 5:46Speaker 1: How many hours in? I gotta know?
- 5:48Speaker 3: So actually never, So there was an intense point. So
- 5:53Speaker 3: I started middle of the afternoon and I went all night,
- 5:57Speaker 3: and you know, midnight, one, two, and three in the morning.
- 5:59Speaker 3: About three in the morning, you're a little bit punch drunk,
- 6:01Speaker 3: and Mike Lee is there, and and he was there,
- 6:04Speaker 3: and he's a little punch drunk, and you know, we're
- 6:07Speaker 3: you know, you're just kind of There are points during
- 6:09Speaker 3: the filibuster where you're just really tired. They had people
- 6:13Speaker 3: showing up and participating. Now, what you can do in
- 6:16Speaker 3: a filibuster is you can yield to a question, and
- 6:20Speaker 3: so one of the ways people will support someone in
- 6:22Speaker 3: a filibuster is is if I'm standing up there filibustering,
- 6:25Speaker 3: and let's say Senator Ferguson walks up and can stand
- 6:28Speaker 3: and say, well, the Senator yield for a question. And
- 6:31Speaker 3: you can say I will yield for a question without
- 6:34Speaker 3: yielding the floor. I still have the floor. But what
- 6:37Speaker 3: someone can do is they can step up and ask
- 6:39Speaker 3: a thirty minute question and basically give a speech or
- 6:43Speaker 3: say whatever they want, and then at the end of
- 6:45Speaker 3: it say wouldn't you agree and hand it back to you.
- 6:47Speaker 1: So it is a way. Can you sit down?
- 6:50Speaker 4: No?
- 6:50Speaker 1: For that, okay, you cannot see it.
- 6:52Speaker 3: You must stay standing. If you sit down, you have
- 6:54Speaker 3: yielded the floor.
- 6:56Speaker 2: Now can you lean on the podium for that thirty
- 6:58Speaker 2: minute question? Not really okay, but it's just a way
- 7:02Speaker 2: to just not have to talk. Yeah, it lets you
- 7:04Speaker 2: rest your voice for a little bit. And so throughout
- 7:07Speaker 2: the twenty one hour filibuster there were multiple people who
- 7:10Speaker 2: spelled me and jumped in and gave me a period
- 7:14Speaker 2: to rest my voice. But so the longest filibuster in
- 7:20Speaker 2: history was strong thermon against the Civil Rights Act, and
- 7:22Speaker 2: that's twenty four hours. I wanted to break that record. Unfortunately,
- 7:27Speaker 2: when I was filibustering, Harry Reid had already entered into
- 7:32Speaker 2: the Senate floor via unanimous consent, an agreement that at
- 7:37Speaker 2: noon the next day we would immediately proceed to the
- 7:40Speaker 2: next matter.
- 7:41Speaker 1: So if you.
- 7:42Speaker 3: Seize the floor and there's no unanimous consent request in place,
- 7:47Speaker 3: you can keep the four as long as you want.
- 7:50Speaker 1: I had do you think you could have made it?
- 7:52Speaker 1: Yea three more hours? Really?
- 7:54Speaker 3: So I had locked into the Senate rules an endpoint
- 7:58Speaker 3: of noon the next day, and I didn't have any
- 8:01Speaker 3: way to extend it. So at like eleven am, I
- 8:04Speaker 3: actually had my team go and ask Carrie Reid was
- 8:07Speaker 3: the majority leader, asked carry Reid's team if they would
- 8:11Speaker 3: allow me to extend it to break strom Thurman's record,
- 8:15Speaker 3: and Harry they just said no, They just which I actually,
- 8:20Speaker 3: I really dislike that the record for the longest filibuster
- 8:23Speaker 3: is is a Democrat philibustering against the civil rights laws.
- 8:27Speaker 3: I mean, I think that needs to be broken, and
- 8:30Speaker 3: I have no doubt at twenty one hours I easily
- 8:32Speaker 3: could have gone another three hours that that was not
- 8:35Speaker 3: an issue at that point.
- 8:37Speaker 2: Did you now you've got a sharp mind and I'm
- 8:39Speaker 2: asking the question their bails is thinking right now. So
- 8:41Speaker 2: I'm going to do this because this is so fun
- 8:42Speaker 2: for me because I'm warning, did your mind start? And
- 8:45Speaker 2: I'm just talking about how many hours were you up?
- 8:47Speaker 2: Did you take a nap before you started?
- 8:50Speaker 3: No crap, Now, it's just just an all nighter. I
- 8:53Speaker 3: had different material.
- 8:54Speaker 1: Now.
- 8:54Speaker 3: Look, I was filibustering about all of the problems of
- 8:58Speaker 3: Obamacare and how it was hurting Texans and hurting Americans.
- 9:00Speaker 3: And I was walking through so a lot of the filibuster.
- 9:03Speaker 3: I'm reading people's examples. I'm talking about how individual people
- 9:08Speaker 3: are are losing their doctor. Remember Obama lied if you
- 9:12Speaker 3: want to keep your doctor and keep your doctor, Well,
- 9:14Speaker 3: that was a lie. Many people could not keep their doctor,
- 9:17Speaker 3: they could not keep their health insurance. And so I
- 9:19Speaker 3: was walking through all the examples of how this was
- 9:22Speaker 3: hurting Americans. I was also during that filibuster, I read
- 9:26Speaker 3: a number of tweets on the Senate floor. I think
- 9:28Speaker 3: that's the first time in history tweets have been read
- 9:30Speaker 3: on the Senate floor. And there was a hashtag that
- 9:33Speaker 3: trended that was make DC Listen, and it was trending
- 9:38Speaker 3: globally to use.
- 9:40Speaker 1: A phone or did someone have to print those.
- 9:42Speaker 3: Offs that they would print them out and hand them
- 9:44Speaker 3: to me. And I had staff that was giving me
- 9:46Speaker 3: materials that would come in. So people would send in
- 9:48Speaker 3: stories and I'm read them on the Senate floor. People
- 9:51Speaker 3: would send in tweets. This was also the filibuster where
- 9:55Speaker 3: you may recall I read greet angs at Ham.
- 9:58Speaker 1: Now do you know why I I had green eggs
- 10:00Speaker 1: at Ham?
- 10:01Speaker 2: It was heared girls right at bedtime, the time you
- 10:03Speaker 2: would normally.
- 10:04Speaker 3: That that that that's exactly right. So so it was
- 10:07Speaker 3: the girls were little. I mean that, I mean that
- 10:09Speaker 3: they were what uh four and six and uh and
- 10:16Speaker 3: so three and three and five. They weren't younger than that,
- 10:20Speaker 3: they were three and five.
- 10:21Speaker 2: So one of the first things you ever showed me,
- 10:23Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, at your house, is a picture
- 10:26Speaker 2: of them seeing you on TV. Either you show me
- 10:28Speaker 2: on your phone or I think it's framed in your house, right.
- 10:31Speaker 3: And it's not in my house, It's it's in my
- 10:33Speaker 3: office in DC, and so it is okay. Yeah, So
- 10:37Speaker 3: what happened when they were little? At night when I
- 10:40Speaker 3: was home, I would read them bedtime stories and it's
- 10:42Speaker 3: you know, so it's really fun. I'm sure you read
- 10:43Speaker 3: your kids bedtime stories. It's a great thing to do.
- 10:46Speaker 3: And so and I tried to do that every night
- 10:48Speaker 3: when I was at home, read them bedtime stories. And
- 10:50Speaker 3: so since I was going, uh, we came up as
- 10:53Speaker 3: actually guy and my on my team that came up
- 10:55Speaker 3: with the idea of, well, why don't you read them
- 10:57Speaker 3: a bedtime story during the filibuster?
- 10:59Speaker 1: And so Green Eggs and Ham.
- 11:01Speaker 3: When I was a kid Green Eggs and Ham was
- 11:02Speaker 3: my favorite book as a little kid, and I have
- 11:05Speaker 3: read it to the girls many many times. And so
- 11:08Speaker 3: we called home and told him turn on the TV,
- 11:11Speaker 3: turn on C Span, and I read them Green Eggs
- 11:15Speaker 3: and Ham because it was their bedtime. And the picture
- 11:16Speaker 3: you saw as a picture of the two of them,
- 11:19Speaker 3: they're both in their pajamas. It's it's absolutely adorable. Katherine,
- 11:24Speaker 3: who's three at the time, they're in matching pajamas, which
- 11:27Speaker 3: which sadly they're teenagers now so they don't match it anymore,
- 11:30Speaker 3: but at three and five they matched.
- 11:31Speaker 1: It was precious.
- 11:32Speaker 3: Catherine is reaching her hand out and touching the TV
- 11:35Speaker 3: and it's just like in wonderment that like, wait, daddy
- 11:38Speaker 3: is reading me Doctor Seuss on TV, and it's just
- 11:41Speaker 3: the look is is hysterical. And then Caroline, who's my
- 11:45Speaker 3: eldest whom I adore. She's five, and she's just cracking
- 11:50Speaker 3: up laughing. And look, Caroline has always been pretty cynical kid,
- 11:55Speaker 3: and and pretty much nothing I've done in the Senate
- 11:58Speaker 3: has impressed her. When I when I came home after that,
- 12:01Speaker 3: she looked at me. She had her arms crossed and
- 12:03Speaker 3: she went, okay, Dad, that was kind of cool. And
- 12:07Speaker 3: so it was like, yes, you know, I mean, look,
- 12:09Speaker 3: scoring points with with your five year old.
- 12:11Speaker 1: It's hard with a five year old to score points,
- 12:13Speaker 1: let's be honest.
- 12:15Speaker 3: So but that's why I read Green Eggs and Ham.
- 12:17Speaker 3: It's because it was bedtime. But that filibuster is not
- 12:22Speaker 3: the really consequential one, because at the end of the day,
- 12:26Speaker 3: a filibuster can delay things for twenty one hours or
- 12:31Speaker 3: twenty four hours, but at the end of the day,
- 12:34Speaker 3: if there's a dedicated majority that moves forward, you can't
- 12:37Speaker 3: talk long enough to stop it. So what the filibuster
- 12:40Speaker 3: really is that is of consequence, is how the Senate
- 12:44Speaker 3: rules operate in order to proceed to take up most
- 12:48Speaker 3: forms of legislation, you must have sixty votes to do
- 12:53Speaker 3: what it's called invoking cloture, which is just a fancy
- 12:56Speaker 3: procedural word for ending debate. Because US senators have unlimited debate,
- 13:02Speaker 3: you've got to end debate before you have a vote,
- 13:04Speaker 3: and that takes sixty votes. The requirement of sixty votes
- 13:09Speaker 3: has stopped most of the dramatic and extreme proposals from
- 13:15Speaker 3: the Democrats from going into office. And so just this week,
- 13:20Speaker 3: Kamala Harris was explicit she plans to end the filibuster.
- 13:23Speaker 3: I want you to listen to her saying that, and
- 13:25Speaker 3: then we're going to talk about what it means, because
- 13:27Speaker 3: this is if she follows through on this, it will
- 13:32Speaker 3: be the end of America as we know it.
- 13:34Speaker 1: So give a listen to what Kamala said.
- 13:36Speaker 5: Now to abortion, you've said you want to work with
- 13:38Speaker 5: Congress to pass a federal bill to codify abortion rights.
- 13:43Speaker 5: How do you plan to get enough support in Congress
- 13:46Speaker 5: to restore abortion rights when you'd likely need to pass
- 13:49Speaker 5: a Senate filibuster, you'd have potential legal hurdles.
- 13:53Speaker 4: Well, let me first say to all your listeners, you
- 13:56Speaker 4: must reelect your Senator Tammy Baldwin because we need the
- 14:00Speaker 4: votes in Congress to do exactly what you are saying,
- 14:04Speaker 4: and that's true, and it is well within our reach
- 14:07Speaker 4: to hold on to the majority in the Senate and
- 14:10Speaker 4: take back the House. And so I would also emphasize
- 14:14Speaker 4: that while the presidential election is extremely important and dispositive
- 14:18Speaker 4: of where we go moving forward, it also is about
- 14:21Speaker 4: what we need to do to hold on to the
- 14:24Speaker 4: Senate and win seats in the House. That being said,
- 14:27Speaker 4: I've been very clear I think we should eliminate the
- 14:30Speaker 4: filibuster for row and we need and get us to
- 14:34Speaker 4: the point where we fifty one votes would be what
- 14:38Speaker 4: we need to actually put back in law the protections
- 14:42Speaker 4: for reproductive freedom and for the ability of every person
- 14:45Speaker 4: and every woman to make decisions about their own body
- 14:48Speaker 4: and not have their government tell them what to do.
- 14:51Speaker 2: So, to be clear, what she's talking about in this
- 14:53Speaker 2: filibuster is extremely different.
- 14:56Speaker 3: Well, what she is talking about is ending the reques
- 15:00Speaker 3: environment that you need sixty votes to move to major legislation,
- 15:03Speaker 3: allowing the Senate to move forward with just fifty votes,
- 15:07Speaker 3: and the Vice President, now, let me tell you, and
- 15:09Speaker 3: she's tried to frame it in terms of abortion, but
- 15:12Speaker 3: she's not talking about limiting it to that at all.
- 15:14Speaker 3: She's talking about fundamentally changing the Senate, and that fundamentally
- 15:19Speaker 3: changes the country. Let me tell you why. So, Look,
- 15:23Speaker 3: you and I both hope we have a great election
- 15:25Speaker 3: in November. We hope that Donald Trump is re elected president.
- 15:29Speaker 3: We hope we have a Republican Senate and we have
- 15:31Speaker 3: a Republican House. And if we do, there's a lot
- 15:33Speaker 3: of good things that can happen. We'll do another podcast
- 15:36Speaker 3: where we talk about the good things that will happen
- 15:39Speaker 3: with a great election. But let's focus on this podcast
- 15:43Speaker 3: on the bad things that will happen with a bad election.
- 15:47Speaker 3: If we wake up the day after election Day and
- 15:49Speaker 3: Kamala Harris has been elected president and the Democrats have
- 15:52Speaker 3: won the House, and the Democrats gain one seat in
- 15:58Speaker 3: the Senate, one here's what happens. So right now, Chuck
- 16:03Speaker 3: Schumer has forty nine votes to end the filibuster. He
- 16:07Speaker 3: needs one more. If he goes from forty nine votes
- 16:10Speaker 3: to fifty votes to end the filibuster, I want to
- 16:14Speaker 3: tell you what January of twenty twenty five will look like.
- 16:18Speaker 3: The first thing Chuck Schumer is the majority leader, will
- 16:21Speaker 3: do in January twenty twenty five is eliminate the filibuster forever.
- 16:26Speaker 3: And the way that operates, by the way, is doing
- 16:29Speaker 3: something called the nuclear option, which is he would move
- 16:34Speaker 3: to proceed to a piece of legislation, and they'd probably
- 16:39Speaker 3: do it to something something abortion related, because that's been
- 16:43Speaker 3: the context of the promises that many politicians have made.
- 16:48Speaker 3: And he would then ask a question of the presiding
- 16:52Speaker 3: officer a parliamentary inquiry, what is the vote threshold to
- 16:57Speaker 3: move to proceed to this and the precise officer would say,
- 17:01Speaker 3: under the Senate rules, it requires sixty votes to proceed
- 17:04Speaker 3: to this matter. He would then appeal the ruling of
- 17:09Speaker 3: the chair. That's called the nuclear option. To appeal the
- 17:13Speaker 3: ruling of the chair, you overturn what the chair has
- 17:15Speaker 3: just ruled. That it requires sixty votes. In order to
- 17:19Speaker 3: overturn the ruling of the chair, you only need fifty votes.
- 17:23Speaker 3: So what he would do is appeal the ruling of
- 17:24Speaker 3: the chair. You'd have a vote on the Senate floor
- 17:27Speaker 3: and fifty Democrats would vote to overturn the ruling of
- 17:31Speaker 3: the chair. The Vice President in this horrible scenario, it's
- 17:35Speaker 3: Tim Waltz would concur and the result would be number one,
- 17:40Speaker 3: the ruling of the chair is overturned. But number two,
- 17:42Speaker 3: that becomes a precedent that binds the Senate, and it
- 17:45Speaker 3: effectively amends the Senate rules so that it no longer
- 17:49Speaker 3: requires sixty votes to proceed to legislation, it requires instead fifty.
- 17:55Speaker 3: That's a bunch of procedural gobbledygook. The important thing to
- 17:59Speaker 3: know about it is with one additional left wing democrat,
- 18:04Speaker 3: just one, Chuck Schumer can end the filibuster. If he
- 18:08Speaker 3: does that, let me tell you the first four bills
- 18:11Speaker 3: that Chuck Schumer will pass into law now.
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- 20:11Speaker 2: so you said four major things that would happen. Let's
- 20:15Speaker 2: roll through those because this is really how I think
- 20:18Speaker 2: a lot of people should be looking at the importance
- 20:20Speaker 2: of this election.
- 20:21Speaker 3: Yes, the first bill Schumer would pass if he ends
- 20:25Speaker 3: the filibuster is S one. S one is the first
- 20:28Speaker 3: bill Chuck Schumer introduces in every Senate. S one is
- 20:32Speaker 3: a federal takeover of all elections in America. S one
- 20:39Speaker 3: strikes down every election integrity law in the country. It
- 20:45Speaker 3: strikes down every photo ID law in the country. It
- 20:50Speaker 3: legalizes ballot harvesting in every state in the Union. It
- 20:57Speaker 3: automatically registers to vote millions of felons, and it automatically
- 21:01Speaker 3: registers to vote millions of illegal aliens. S one is
- 21:06Speaker 3: designed so that Democrats never lose another election. S one
- 21:12Speaker 3: is designed to massively increase voter fraud on election day.
- 21:18Speaker 3: That would be the first bill Schumer would pass. He
- 21:20Speaker 3: has forty nine votes to do that. One more would
- 21:23Speaker 3: given the vote he needs. The second thing he would
- 21:25Speaker 3: do is add two new states to the Union. He
- 21:30Speaker 3: would add d C and he would add Puerto Rico.
- 21:32Speaker 3: By the way, it does not take a constitutional amendment
- 21:35Speaker 3: to add a state to the Union. It only takes
- 21:37Speaker 3: a law that passes Congress and assigned by the President.
- 21:39Speaker 3: Now that law can be filibustered, but if Schumer ends
- 21:44Speaker 3: the filibuster, he can pass it with just fifty votes.
- 21:47Speaker 3: The reason Schumer wants to add d C in Puerto
- 21:52Speaker 3: Rico is because Schumer and the Democrats believe d C
- 21:55Speaker 3: and Puerto Rico would elect four new Democrat Senators. That
- 21:59Speaker 3: means if we started next year with fifty Democrats and
- 22:04Speaker 3: fifty Republicans in the Senate, we would end next year
- 22:08Speaker 3: with fifty four Democrats and fifty Republicans in the Senate.
- 22:12Speaker 3: Schumer would do that so that the Republicans would never
- 22:16Speaker 3: again win a majority in the United States Senate. That'd
- 22:19Speaker 3: be the second bill he passes. The third bill he
- 22:22Speaker 3: would pass would be to grant amnesty and immediate voting
- 22:28Speaker 3: rights to every single illegal alien in America. Now, we
- 22:32Speaker 3: don't have a firm count of that, but it is
- 22:34Speaker 3: upwards of twenty million illegal immigrants. We know eleven and
- 22:37Speaker 3: a half million have come in under Joe Biden and
- 22:39Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. We are north of twenty million. If you
- 22:42Speaker 3: had them all together in Texas, they're two to three
- 22:46Speaker 3: million illegal immigrants living in Texas now. Ben if they
- 22:50Speaker 3: do that the instant they do that, Texas turns blue.
- 22:55Speaker 2: If Chuck Schumer, you say that, and they're gonna say, okay,
- 22:59Speaker 2: how does constantly term beliefs?
- 23:01Speaker 3: So explain that, Because if Chuck Schumer and the Democrats
- 23:04Speaker 3: grant immediate voting rights to every illegal alien in Texas,
- 23:07Speaker 3: they're two to three million illegal aliens, they would vote
- 23:10Speaker 3: overwhelmingly Democrat. The Democrats believe this, and the effect of
- 23:17Speaker 3: that would be every single statewide elected official in Texas
- 23:22Speaker 3: would lose the next election. The governor would lose, the
- 23:25Speaker 3: lieutenant governor would lose, the attorney general would lose. We
- 23:29Speaker 3: have nine Republican Supreme Court justices. All nine would lose.
- 23:34Speaker 3: Texas would immediately become California. It would not be slow,
- 23:40Speaker 3: it would not be gradual. It would be instantaneous. With
- 23:43Speaker 3: three million additional illegal aliens voting in the next election,
- 23:47Speaker 3: Texas is California. That's number three, and then number four.
- 23:53Speaker 3: They would pack the United States Supreme Court. They would
- 23:56Speaker 3: grow the Supreme Court from nine justices to thirteen justices. Now,
- 24:02Speaker 3: it does not take a constitutional amendment to change the
- 24:05Speaker 3: number of justices on the court. That can be done
- 24:07Speaker 3: by statute, but that statute can be filibustered if you
- 24:11Speaker 3: get rid of the filibuster. The Schuber only needs fifty
- 24:14Speaker 3: votes plus the vice president. They would add four left
- 24:18Speaker 3: wing justices to the court. It would go to thirteen justices.
- 24:22Speaker 3: And I got to tell you something, Ben, Look I
- 24:25Speaker 3: am you know me well, I'm an optimist. I believe
- 24:29Speaker 3: in America. I believe the future of America is bright.
- 24:31Speaker 3: I believe tomorrow is brighter than today. I believe we
- 24:34Speaker 3: are moving in a good direction. In that scenario, I
- 24:40Speaker 3: have no answer. I view what I've just described as
- 24:45Speaker 3: a system ending event. You look through history, great nations rise,
- 24:50Speaker 3: great nations fall. Yeah, there is I view what I
- 24:55Speaker 3: just described as the end of the United States of
- 24:59Speaker 3: America as we know, and there's no way to turn
- 25:03Speaker 3: that back. And here's the terrifying thing, Ben, I don't
- 25:08Speaker 3: believe a word of what I just said is hyperbole.
- 25:10Speaker 3: I don't believe I'm exaggerating anything. Chuck Schumer has forty
- 25:15Speaker 3: nine votes to do everything I just described. And I
- 25:19Speaker 3: think most Americans have no idea that we are one
- 25:24Speaker 3: Senate seat away from that calamity, from that irreversible situation.
- 25:31Speaker 3: I know that most Texans have no awareness that Texas
- 25:35Speaker 3: is that close to flipping instantly blue. I think a
- 25:38Speaker 3: lot of Texans view, well, even if everything goes crazy
- 25:41Speaker 3: and the rest of the country will be fine, where Texas,
- 25:45Speaker 3: We're going to be just fine.
- 25:47Speaker 1: This scenario, you want to ask, what keeps me up
- 25:51Speaker 1: at night?
- 25:51Speaker 3: It is the scenario I just described, and we are
- 25:56Speaker 3: literally one vote away from that happening.
- 25:58Speaker 2: So let's look at the evidence to really back up
- 26:01Speaker 2: what you just said. And and you look at the Democrats.
- 26:04Speaker 2: They have for the last several years really been trying
- 26:07Speaker 2: to undermine the Supreme Court. They have leaked from the
- 26:12Speaker 2: Supreme Court the Roe v. Wade decision for example. The
- 26:15Speaker 2: Democrats have been trying to intimidate Supreme Court justices, and
- 26:21Speaker 2: we saw just how hostile they allowed people to get
- 26:25Speaker 2: towards the Supreme Court justice in their homes. I mean
- 26:28Speaker 2: that the media has been undermining the Supreme Court as
- 26:32Speaker 2: well and acting like the Supreme Court is this outdated
- 26:37Speaker 2: body that should be changed. So when you say that
- 26:41Speaker 2: we're one vote away and this is what would happen,
- 26:44Speaker 2: they're the ones that have been doing all the things
- 26:47Speaker 2: you would do for this possible opportunity if it actually arises,
- 26:52Speaker 2: and you can say yeah, like We've been saying this
- 26:54Speaker 2: for years.
- 26:54Speaker 1: We think the Supreme Court should be packed. Right, Yeah,
- 26:57Speaker 1: look that that that's correct. And here's the math.
- 27:01Speaker 3: Today there's a fifty one forty nine Democrat majority in
- 27:05Speaker 3: the Senate. However, of those fifty one, they're two Democrats,
- 27:09Speaker 3: Joe Manchin and Kirsten Cinema, who have both voted against
- 27:13Speaker 3: ending the filibuster. So Chuck Schumer tried to end the filibuster.
- 27:17Speaker 3: They had a vote on it, and forty nine Democrats
- 27:21Speaker 3: voted to end the filibuster. Had either Mansion or Cinema flipped,
- 27:26Speaker 3: they would have had the votes. But the two of
- 27:28Speaker 3: them are the only things that stopped it. Now, I'm
- 27:32Speaker 3: going to tell you something we know for an absolute certainty,
- 27:35Speaker 3: in January of next year, neither Mansion nor Cinema will
- 27:39Speaker 3: be there.
- 27:40Speaker 1: Very true.
- 27:41Speaker 3: Both of them their terms are done, neither of them
- 27:43Speaker 3: are running for reelection. It's one hundred percent they will
- 27:46Speaker 3: be gone. That means that Schumer is going into this
- 27:50Speaker 3: election with forty nine votes to end the filibuster. If
- 27:55Speaker 3: he picks up one anywhere, he gets to fifty, and
- 28:00Speaker 3: if Tim Waltz is the vice president, he has everything
- 28:03Speaker 3: he needs to end the filibuster, and I want to
- 28:08Speaker 3: make a point here. Also, you notice none of the
- 28:11Speaker 3: things I listed were economic. I didn't list in the
- 28:16Speaker 3: calamity in the Parade of Horribles. I didn't list seventy
- 28:21Speaker 3: percent marginal tax rates. I didn't list massively confiscatory death taxes.
- 28:28Speaker 3: I didn't list wealth taxes that tax you on unrealized
- 28:34Speaker 3: capital gains. I didn't list banning fracking and shutting it
- 28:39Speaker 3: down oil and gas exploration in the United States. I
- 28:42Speaker 3: didn't list nationalization of mineral rights. Look to be honest,
- 28:47Speaker 3: the economic stuff, the socialism that follows like night follows day,
- 28:52Speaker 3: because the Democrat's top priority, the four things I listed
- 28:57Speaker 3: are all about seizing control and making it permit making
- 29:00Speaker 3: it impossible that Democrats ever lose. And you know, there's
- 29:06Speaker 3: something deeply Freudian about how democrats behave because they talk
- 29:10Speaker 3: incessantly about saving democracy, and yet today's Democrats are profoundly
- 29:16Speaker 3: anti democratic. Their number one priority is making it so
- 29:20Speaker 3: the voters can never ever, ever, ever ever vote them
- 29:23Speaker 3: out of power. And once they're in power, look on
- 29:27Speaker 3: the economic stuff, the only constraints are just how crazy
- 29:31Speaker 3: are Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren willing to go. But
- 29:35Speaker 3: it is look at countries like Venezuela. Once you get
- 29:40Speaker 3: one party locked in power with no ability to constrain them,
- 29:45Speaker 3: the country goes downhill incredibly quickly, and I think terrible policies.
- 29:53Speaker 3: Look policies. I didn't mention gun confiscation, going after the
- 29:58Speaker 3: Second Amendment, going after liberty, going after the First Amendment.
- 30:02Speaker 3: They packed the Supreme Court. You're not going to have
- 30:04Speaker 3: the courts backstopping any of the rights in the Bill
- 30:07Speaker 3: of Rights. All of that happens as a matter of course.
- 30:11Speaker 3: Schumer's first focus is power, and if he can lock
- 30:16Speaker 3: in power forever, that really is the end of our democracy,
- 30:20Speaker 3: and ironically it's the number one priority of today's Democrats.
- 30:25Speaker 2: Let me go back to a very consequential vote, and
- 30:27Speaker 2: I just want to remind people perspective on this filibuster.
- 30:32Speaker 2: In the sixty plus, when we go back to Obamacare,
- 30:36Speaker 2: what was the number on Obamacare? How many votes did
- 30:39Speaker 2: that pass with?
- 30:40Speaker 1: Do you remember?
- 30:41Speaker 3: Well, the way they passed to Obamacare was through a
- 30:44Speaker 3: special budget procedure called budget reconciliation. And budget reconciliation is
- 30:50Speaker 3: the most important exception to the filibuster. Budget reconciliation comes
- 30:56Speaker 3: from a law called the Budget Act of nineteen seventy five,
- 30:59Speaker 3: and it's a special procedure for adopting a budget, and
- 31:02Speaker 3: under that statute, it is exempt from the filibuster, so
- 31:07Speaker 3: you can pass it with a majority. That's how they
- 31:09Speaker 3: did Obamacare, as they did it using budget reconciliation. By
- 31:14Speaker 3: the way, the Trump tax cuts were passed using budget reconciliation,
- 31:21Speaker 3: so they were not subject to the filibuster. No Democrat
- 31:23Speaker 3: voted for the Trump tax cuts. If you look at
- 31:26Speaker 3: things like the Orwellian named Inflation Reduction Act that was
- 31:31Speaker 3: passed by the Democrats using budget reconciliation. So there are
- 31:34Speaker 3: things that can be done that typically involve spending and
- 31:39Speaker 3: taxing that can be done with just fifty votes. But
- 31:45Speaker 3: the structural changes to our republic, things like the federal
- 31:50Speaker 3: takeover of all elections in this country, or adding two
- 31:54Speaker 3: new states to the Union, or granting immediate voting rights
- 31:58Speaker 3: to every illegal alien in America, that cannot be done
- 32:02Speaker 3: through budget reconciliation. Packing the Supreme Court cannot be done
- 32:06Speaker 3: through budget reconciliation. The statute lays out specific categories of
- 32:11Speaker 3: what can and can't be done through reconciliation. So the
- 32:16Speaker 3: sort of simplest way to think about it is spending
- 32:19Speaker 3: in taxes you can get around the filibuster.
- 32:22Speaker 1: Everything else as a general matter, you can't see.
- 32:25Speaker 2: And that's why I want to remind people because we
- 32:27Speaker 2: were talking about that during the time and it came
- 32:30Speaker 2: up that you know, the sixty votes and how important
- 32:32Speaker 2: it is, and it's a hard threshold if you change it,
- 32:35Speaker 2: and you think about how consequential, for example, Obamacare was
- 32:39Speaker 2: and during that time when there was almost a super majority,
- 32:41Speaker 2: and YadA, YadA, YadA, and you go, okay, there's a
- 32:44Speaker 2: reason why it was set up this way. The entire
- 32:47Speaker 2: United States of America's history changes if you get rid
- 32:49Speaker 2: of this.
- 32:50Speaker 1: Am I wrong? You are absolutely right.
- 32:53Speaker 3: Look, if Schumer ends the filibuster, no Republican ever wins again.
- 33:00Speaker 1: It is one party rule.
- 33:02Speaker 3: And so ask yourself, how has Hugo Chaves and Nicholas
- 33:06Speaker 3: Maduro been for Venezuela that will be and listen. Some
- 33:11Speaker 3: people listening might say, oh, come on, that's too much.
- 33:14Speaker 3: You shouldn't compare Kamala Harris to Nicholas Maduro. Well, if
- 33:20Speaker 3: their policy is to lock themselves in their party into power,
- 33:24Speaker 3: forever and to disempower the voters from ever ever ever
- 33:29Speaker 3: being able to take them out of power. That is
- 33:32Speaker 3: exactly what Chavez and Maduro have done. That's what Castro
- 33:35Speaker 3: have done. It is the strategy of dictators and it
- 33:39Speaker 3: is a shocking thing that today's Democrats no longer believe
- 33:45Speaker 3: in order to save democracy, they're willing to destroy democracy.
- 33:50Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that is really sad.
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- 36:34Speaker 2: may be people that say, look, if there is a
- 36:38Speaker 2: let's say they get it and they get rid of
- 36:40Speaker 2: the filibuster, it'll come back in a couple of years.
- 36:43Speaker 2: Maybe there's like a little bit of an overreaction here.
- 36:46Speaker 2: I go back in history, and I'm a student of history.
- 36:49Speaker 2: You are, and you love history as well. When consequential
- 36:53Speaker 2: things usually happen within our government. A great example is Obamacare.
- 36:57Speaker 2: Once it's done, it is extremely hard to do it.
- 37:00Speaker 2: And so if people think, well, maybe they do it
- 37:03Speaker 2: and we'll get it back, maybe they throw four more
- 37:04Speaker 2: people on the Supreme Court, but we could get it
- 37:06Speaker 2: back to nine if we really wanted to how impossible
- 37:09Speaker 2: would it be to undo some of the things you
- 37:12Speaker 2: talked about if it actually went into effect because the
- 37:15Speaker 2: Democrats win in November.
- 37:17Speaker 3: Well, understand that the four things I listed are all structural,
- 37:21Speaker 3: so once they happen, you can undo them if you
- 37:25Speaker 3: have twenty million illegal immigrants voting Democrats win. Texas isn't
- 37:30Speaker 3: the only state that turns blue. North Carolina turns blue,
- 37:34Speaker 3: Georgia turns blue, Arizona turns blue. I mean you have
- 37:39Speaker 3: suddenly swing states that are not swing states anymore. This
- 37:42Speaker 3: is why the Democrats, they're just focused on power. You
- 37:46Speaker 3: look at if it's right, DC will elect Democrats for
- 37:50Speaker 3: all eternity if it becomes a state. Puerto Rico, I
- 37:53Speaker 3: don't think it's one hundred percent correct that Puerto Rico
- 37:56Speaker 3: would only elect Democrats. We have seen Republicans elected in
- 38:00Speaker 3: Puerto Rico, although partisan politics doesn't line up in Puerto
- 38:03Speaker 3: Rico exactly like it does in the mainland. But if
- 38:07Speaker 3: the Democrats are correct that that's four new Democrats in
- 38:10Speaker 3: the Senate. It is very difficult to see a map
- 38:12Speaker 3: that ever again elects a Republican majority in the Senate.
- 38:18Speaker 3: So there will never be an opportunity to reverse it.
- 38:21Speaker 3: And by the way, you can look to what happened
- 38:24Speaker 3: with the Supreme Court. So if you look at Supreme
- 38:29Speaker 3: Court nominations, Harry Reid exercised the nuclear option, the same
- 38:36Speaker 3: method for ending the filibuster for legislation. Harry Reid exercised
- 38:40Speaker 3: the nuclear option to end the filibuster for judicial nominations,
- 38:45Speaker 3: and he did so. When he did so, I remember
- 38:48Speaker 3: I was on the Senate floor, and he did exactly
- 38:51Speaker 3: what I said. He asked for a ruling from the chair.
- 38:53Speaker 3: He appealed the ruling of the chair, and all the
- 38:55Speaker 3: Democrats voted with him, and they overturned it. And so
- 38:59Speaker 3: to confirm it, Judge, you only need now fifty votes
- 39:04Speaker 3: plus the Vice President. And I remember being on the
- 39:07Speaker 3: Senate floor. I turned to Amy Klobuchar, a Democrat from Minnesota,
- 39:11Speaker 3: and all the Democrats were voting like lemmings to and
- 39:13Speaker 3: the filibuster. And I told her then, I said, you
- 39:17Speaker 3: realize the consequence of this. We are going to get
- 39:21Speaker 3: more justices like Clarence Thomas and antonin Scalia. And that
- 39:26Speaker 3: is unequivocally correct. And in fact, if you want to
- 39:31Speaker 3: know why Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett and Neil
- 39:35Speaker 3: Gorsich were confirmed. It is because the Democrats ended the
- 39:38Speaker 3: filibuster for judicial nominations. If they hadn't, there is no
- 39:43Speaker 3: chance on earth Cavanaugh or Amy Cony Barrett gets confirmed
- 39:46Speaker 3: because it would have taken sixty votes, and there weren't
- 39:48Speaker 3: going to be sixty votes for any nominee that had
- 39:52Speaker 3: a proven record of being conservative. So it changed markedly
- 39:57Speaker 3: the kinds of judges that Trump could nominate. Once the
- 40:02Speaker 3: change is made procedurally, it never ever ever goes back.
- 40:07Speaker 2: Final question for you, and that is you look at
- 40:11Speaker 2: what you just said in this show, and it changes
- 40:16Speaker 2: my perspective. And I do this with you three days
- 40:20Speaker 2: a week and talk politics every day because the easy issue,
- 40:24Speaker 2: right is the economy stupid And that's the number one issue.
- 40:28Speaker 2: Most voters say number two, they say the border. This
- 40:31Speaker 2: issue to me, now after we've gone through it is
- 40:35Speaker 2: even bigger than those two issues when it comes to
- 40:38Speaker 2: the future of this country.
- 40:39Speaker 3: Is that a fair take in terms of long term future? Yes,
- 40:45Speaker 3: it is absolutely a fair take. It is, as I said,
- 40:48Speaker 3: the single thing that keeps me up at night that
- 40:51Speaker 3: we are that close to losing our entire country, and
- 40:54Speaker 3: I think almost everyone is oblivious to it. I look,
- 40:59Speaker 3: you and I are both tech. How many Texans do
- 41:01Speaker 3: you know that realize that we could be three months
- 41:06Speaker 3: away from Texas becoming California becoming a bright blue plate state.
- 41:11Speaker 3: By the way, if that happens, I'll make a crazy
- 41:13Speaker 3: prediction that I hope and pray never comes true. If
- 41:16Speaker 3: the Democrats and the Filibuster, if they grant voting rights
- 41:19Speaker 3: to every illegal alien in America, every illegal alien in Texas,
- 41:24Speaker 3: Beto O'Rourke would be the next governor of the state
- 41:26Speaker 3: of Texas. I don't think that's an exaggeration. I think
- 41:29Speaker 3: that is actually quite likely.
- 41:31Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 41:31Speaker 2: Well, it's the reason why Democrats are importing so many
- 41:34Speaker 2: illegal immigrants right now. They think they can give them
- 41:36Speaker 2: the right to vote, give them citizenship, and bam, as
- 41:38Speaker 2: you described it, it changes everything in one day. I
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