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Bob Sumner Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: My next guest is the executive producer Laugh Mob Laugh Tracks,
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Speaker 1: which is in the second season on True TV. But
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Speaker 1: let's go back. Let's go back. This is with me
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Speaker 1: and him, you know, step into the world. Because he's
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Speaker 1: also co created with Russell Simmons the HBO Death Comedy Jam.
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Speaker 1: He was working behind the scenes recruiting the best, unrecognized,
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Speaker 1: unknown or just starting out comedians in the world as
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Speaker 1: a producer, a talent scout, a good friend, many industry
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Speaker 1: influences considering him a career maker because he hitped my career.
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Speaker 1: I would not be sitting here if he had not
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Speaker 1: chosen me to be on Death Comedy Jam. We'll talk
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Speaker 1: about that during the interview. He surely can be credited
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Speaker 1: with discovering Bernie Mack, Dave Chappelle. I did Dave Chappelle
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Speaker 1: here and I did Death Comedy Jam together. Chris Tucker,
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Speaker 1: Bill Bellaman, that's my board, got him on my Speed
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Speaker 1: Died Secondly Entertainment. He's done my show Money Make Conversation
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Speaker 1: many times. Mike ELPs, that's a fool. Did the movie
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Speaker 1: with where Steve did it with be and say we
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Speaker 1: did that movie together. Monique, Monique, I did our TV
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Speaker 1: show The Parkers, Tracy Morgan that food know about him,
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Speaker 1: did a comedy concert that the Houston Arena and Houston,
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Speaker 1: Texas with and a multitude of other comedians. I'm just
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Speaker 1: letting you know what he's done. He's allowed me to
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Speaker 1: have a lane of participation. Please welcome to money making conversations,
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Speaker 1: my man, Bob Sumner. Right now. Man, I'm so proud
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Speaker 1: of you. I don't know what you got that long?
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Speaker 1: I said, you still got that long more? Absolutely, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: I'm telling something. Let's let's go back, man, because you
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Speaker 1: know we're gonna talk about laugh Mark, which is a
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Speaker 1: really it's it's you know, I've watched several episodes. I'm
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Speaker 1: a fan of it because it's like a sketch comedy
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Speaker 1: show tied into a stand up comedy show, which is
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Speaker 1: really fascinating from a creative standpoint, because you know, I'm
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Speaker 1: watching that show and because of the way they produced
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Speaker 1: and the stand up coming, I've already done with it.
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Speaker 1: That's excited about because I do want to talk about
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Speaker 1: our journey together and the comics and comedians lives. You
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Speaker 1: change and the facts changed the way we we look
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Speaker 1: at comedy today. From Steve Harvey to Eccentric Entertainment. Who's
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Speaker 1: on CBS right now, Dio hugually has a syndicated a
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Speaker 1: nationally syndicated show. And of course Bernie Mack, who would
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Speaker 1: always be legendary and what he did. Unfortunately health reasons
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Speaker 1: took him away. But there are other comics out there
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Speaker 1: who walked on that stage, who was established, who still
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Speaker 1: came on that stage and you know, built their brand out.
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Speaker 1: And we're talking like the you know, the Chris Tucker
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Speaker 1: did five minutes and then became an international star five
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Speaker 1: minutes on Death Comedy. You know, you know Andy Grifford,
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Speaker 1: he did Michael Jackson and become a superstar, saying wow, man,
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Speaker 1: let me, can I just think before we go into
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Speaker 1: all of that, you had something already that you pretty
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Speaker 1: much hit the nail on the head man Um in
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Speaker 1: terms of why why this show um was created, Laugh minds,
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Speaker 1: laugh tracks was really based on America. Really didn't know
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Speaker 1: how Death Comedy jam was built? You do? You do?
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Speaker 1: You know everybody always see the faces? Do you know
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Speaker 1: the big names? Definite? Like everybody thinks that Diana Ross
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Speaker 1: discovered the Jackson fives, and really it was Bobby Tella
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Speaker 1: from the Vancouver's. You know, people don't know that that part.
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Speaker 1: But um, what happened with me was I watched the
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Speaker 1: landscape of where comedy had gone out of the nineties,
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Speaker 1: you know, out of the nineties. Man, everybody was getting
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Speaker 1: the sitcoms. People was meeting people said, didn't know Steve,
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Speaker 1: but they came to Death Comedy Jam and got a
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Speaker 1: TV show. Tracy Morgan didn't know Martin, but he did
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Speaker 1: what he did and then he got on the right
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Speaker 1: and show so many things like that, including you know,
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Speaker 1: I brought Dolomite to Deaf Comedy Jam. I bought while
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Speaker 1: man Steve the Deaf Comedy Jam to mix the new
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Speaker 1: with the old. And what happened is when Deaf Comedy
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Speaker 1: Jam went off the air, and then the HBO brought
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Speaker 1: the Chris Rocks Show into light and things of that nature.
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Speaker 1: People don't understand that. And you know for a fact,
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Speaker 1: I was going all over the country finding these comedians
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Speaker 1: in little hole in the walls and this, that and
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Speaker 1: the other, and it just became magical after a while.
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Speaker 1: But then all of that stopped and I kept the
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Speaker 1: show going on the road where Kevin Hart won a
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Speaker 1: contest for me Cocobe Brown wont to contest for me
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Speaker 1: se Ray Davis. So the talent was still there, but
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Speaker 1: we didn't really have a vehicle to for them. So
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Speaker 1: with that being said, you know, the two thousand and
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Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, some of these people started coming on,
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Speaker 1: but I knew that there was the next generation. Just
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Speaker 1: like after Michael Jordan's you had Kobe Bryant doing Lebron James,
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Speaker 1: the same thing goes with comedy. So I decided to
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Speaker 1: go to l A and trying to build the brand. Okay,
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Speaker 1: my own brand and and and laugh Mob is nothing
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Speaker 1: more than the affter them. For MOB is more of
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Speaker 1: Bob's best. So what I would do is I would
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Speaker 1: go into these these big offices and talk to these people.
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Speaker 1: But nobody really knew that it was Bob something that
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Speaker 1: did this. And I'm trying to bring them a sketch
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Speaker 1: show as possible so more fresh stand up. Nobody's hearing me.
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Speaker 1: So you know what happened. I said, I'll just do
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Speaker 1: it myself and do it in a certain way where
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Speaker 1: I can take all these stand up comedians who don't
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Speaker 1: have great tapes. You know, after the show, they're trying
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Speaker 1: to pedal their tapes, but you get the tape and
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Speaker 1: like um video from shows, comic view or whatever that
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Speaker 1: they've been or nobody wants that. They want something fresh.
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Speaker 1: So also you could take a fresh tape. If I
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Speaker 1: identify who deserves a half hour or hour special, I'll
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Speaker 1: shoot it myself and then try to sell it to
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Speaker 1: a showtime or HBO, which it actually worked. But I
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Speaker 1: took all of the sixteen hours of material that I
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Speaker 1: had the audio, and I treated it just like a
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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving turkey. Okay, you take that material and just like
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Speaker 1: you take a turkey and you and you have the turkey,
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Speaker 1: then you turn it into uh um, a turkey sandwich,
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Speaker 1: U turkey, catch a roll um, you turn it into
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Speaker 1: turkey hash. You turn it into turkey. You know, you
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Speaker 1: just do that. And that's what I did with the
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Speaker 1: stand up. And we took the audio that had stories,
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Speaker 1: the comedians that had stories to tell, and some guys
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Speaker 1: out of my office decided that they're going to try
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Speaker 1: to take and turn them into comedy videos and we
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Speaker 1: put them on YouTube. We started getting sixty seventy million views.
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Speaker 1: Before you know it, it comes to networks trying to
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Speaker 1: you know, how can we be a part of this
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Speaker 1: right here we are all. You know, first of all,
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Speaker 1: let's let's really if you watch the shows. If you
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Speaker 1: watch the show, I'm telling the stand up comic is
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Speaker 1: on stage, okay, during his routine, and then they will
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Speaker 1: seamlessly transition into a video that they're referencing their stand
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Speaker 1: up comic, and you're seeing. This is the cool thing
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Speaker 1: about it. The actor or actors that they've chosen are
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Speaker 1: lip sinking the dialogue from the comedian. I mean, dead on,
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Speaker 1: dead on. That's what I really loved about it because
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Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I mean, so whether it's a
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Speaker 1: child actor or an adult actor, they are matching it.
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Speaker 1: You know, male, female, it doesn't matter. And that to
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Speaker 1: me is a female comedian or male comedian. That's what
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Speaker 1: I really really loved about the show. Was like, wow,
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Speaker 1: this is really slick. You know, I got the re
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Speaker 1: enactment of the comedy routine, but to be able to
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Speaker 1: have the comic on stage and then to take give
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Speaker 1: you the visual of their joke. That's what you're doing,
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Speaker 1: the visual of their joke while they're doing the routine.
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Speaker 1: It's pretty impressive. Ball that's pretty pretty that's pretty pretty creative. Brother,
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Speaker 1: Thanks man, thanks, but again, Jim, Jim, Marv, this kid,
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Speaker 1: jimmal and carlos Man. You know, we would just be
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Speaker 1: hanging out and be talking about different ideas and stuff.
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Speaker 1: And they sent me that first one on YouTube and
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Speaker 1: Led Grant with the kid with Tony Baker playing Red
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Speaker 1: Glant and it was to the kid. The father didn't
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Speaker 1: want the kid, right, you know. And then I had
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Speaker 1: with g and you know, this is long before the phenomenon,
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Speaker 1: you know, but that's the beat of you. You have
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Speaker 1: an eye for talent. When we come back, gonna talk
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Speaker 1: about you. How he discovered Rushawan McDonald as he told
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Speaker 1: me no, and then I had to do some work
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Speaker 1: to get on death Comedy. Jab. This is our relationship
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Speaker 1: really started. Bob Something that brother, I'm so happy. I'm
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Speaker 1: so proud of you. Just hearing your voice. I love
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Speaker 1: that little grabbling voice to yours. Bad. I know I'm
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Speaker 1: talking to my man, Bom Something. He created it. He
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Speaker 1: made us all man. He opened a gateway of success
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Speaker 1: for African American comedians in a very general market world.
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Speaker 1: We'll be back with more money making conversations. I just
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Speaker 1: with Sean McDonald and you're listening to money making conversations.
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Speaker 1: He's on the show. When I said he's on the show,
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Speaker 1: is that the executive producer of Laugh made that's m
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Speaker 1: O B B Laugh Tracks, which is in its second
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Speaker 1: season on True TV. But the heart of our conversation
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Speaker 1: is relationships. Uh, you know, how do you extend a
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Speaker 1: body of work over years, over decades? How do you
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Speaker 1: how do you allow comedy? Like some people said, comedy
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Speaker 1: can be uh, throwback comedy can be current comedy, especially
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Speaker 1: nowadays when comedy is being a PC me too. You know,
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Speaker 1: you can't do the jokes that you did in the naties.
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Speaker 1: You know, in fact, some people comed who done jokes
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Speaker 1: in the nanties have gotten in trouble because of the
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Speaker 1: people went back and found it on on social media,
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Speaker 1: founding on an old comedy special. So when I look
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Speaker 1: at your show that you're doing now, Bob, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. You know, in Death Death Comedy
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Speaker 1: Jam came out. You know I did, I taped in
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Speaker 1: the N two. How how's your how's your view on
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Speaker 1: stand up comedy today? With the rules being changed so much?
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Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting how the rules have changed.
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Speaker 1: Where you know, I I go back to the days
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Speaker 1: when you could smoke cigarette, you had cigarette commercials. You know,
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Speaker 1: I go, I go back to the days when you
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Speaker 1: couldn't watch Elvis from the waist down, you know, and
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Speaker 1: it was back then, and now you have comedy. The
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Speaker 1: comedians can't be politically you know, they have to be
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Speaker 1: politically correct and everything. Yet on your smartphone you can
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Speaker 1: watch porny. Like I don't, I don't understand what what's
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Speaker 1: going on in terms of I I was always told
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Speaker 1: that it was a thing called freedom of speech, right,
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Speaker 1: but now it doesn't seem like it's it's flowing that way,
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Speaker 1: and I don't know. I don't know what to say
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Speaker 1: or do about it. But I also think that part
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Speaker 1: of the reason why. And I have this term called
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Speaker 1: social medias, okay, and those are those comedians that you
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Speaker 1: see on YouTube for three minutes being like silly. Those
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Speaker 1: are the people that are getting booked now because they're
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Speaker 1: not saying anything, you know, they're not saying anything relevant
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Speaker 1: to how people are living. And that's what stand up
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Speaker 1: for me was stand up was an art, not a hustle,
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Speaker 1: right right. So so I'm kind of like, I'm kind
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Speaker 1: of like toring. Even when I look at David, you
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Speaker 1: know the six stays. You know, he's the same stand
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Speaker 1: up commuting that he was when I met him when
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Speaker 1: he was eighteen years or you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: It's just that the things that he was saying then
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Speaker 1: nobody was really paying attention to. But now since he's
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Speaker 1: become a star, people are dissecting everything he says. But
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Speaker 1: everything he says is real life stuff, right, So I
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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't I don't know how to take it. Yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: I know that that as a as a stand up
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be stand up till I die, you know,
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Speaker 1: because I'm naturally funny. I don't go out there and
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Speaker 1: do set routines. But I know. And when Death Comedy
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Speaker 1: Jam came out on HBO, uh, you had to audition
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Speaker 1: live or you could send a tape to Mr Bob something.
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Speaker 1: Well Roa McDonald but got his best tape since the Barb,
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Speaker 1: and Barb was frank. He said, Rashan, look listen to Rashan.
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Speaker 1: You are funny, but all your performances are in front
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Speaker 1: of white audiences, he said. He said, I don't know
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Speaker 1: if your comedy will translate like that. He said, do
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Speaker 1: you have to go and show me what you can
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Speaker 1: do in front of an audience that their favorites with
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Speaker 1: death comedy Jam does No. He was just protecting me.
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Speaker 1: But Bob didn't want to do was just he wouldn't.
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Speaker 1: He wasn't putting people out there just be booking him.
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Speaker 1: He had an eye for the understanding. This is the
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Speaker 1: market we're going after. What you're doing over there, you
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Speaker 1: kill it, you kill it, but it may not translate.
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Speaker 1: And until you can show me that it will translate,
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Speaker 1: I gotta hold off on the opportunity with death comedy Jam.
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Speaker 1: So so what I had to do. I had to
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Speaker 1: go to Oakland Ball. Bob said, Hey, I said, Bob,
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Speaker 1: they have an Oakly Comedy competition. He has the right
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Speaker 1: place to go with shall that's the right place to go.
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Speaker 1: And I went out there. I went out there and
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Speaker 1: I killed. I made the finals of the competition, and
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Speaker 1: Bob said, you know something, you can do death comedition
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Speaker 1: and he booked me. But I had to work. I
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Speaker 1: had to work, you know. I. You know the thing
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Speaker 1: about it, The reason I tell people that story is
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Speaker 1: that it shows you that you had rules I could have.
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Speaker 1: I could have powered it. I could have bad mouth
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Speaker 1: box on it. But he should look at it, Bro,
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Speaker 1: You're funny because I'm not in the business of embarrassing you.
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Speaker 1: A book and a show with comics, you don't deliver
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Speaker 1: results on the show, I lose my job too. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The funny thing about that, though, is, you know, the
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Speaker 1: Bay Area Comedy Competition is finally coming back after this
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Speaker 1: long high. Edita also, I think that that that was
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Speaker 1: very important for a stand up comedian to see if
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Speaker 1: they really had the chops and not that really differentiated
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Speaker 1: the real comedians with the comics, and see you as
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Speaker 1: a real comedian and you was able to take it.
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Speaker 1: He was able to take what I had said to
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Speaker 1: you and work on it, and then you came out
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Speaker 1: there and it was like yes, and Bob was right.
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Speaker 1: I just shifted up a little bit. Now, I just
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Speaker 1: shifted up a little bit because if I just walked
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Speaker 1: out that, you know, that's a beauty. And in our relationship,
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Speaker 1: you know, open a very popular comedy club called the
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Speaker 1: Hip Hop Comedy Stuff. He came down to Houston audition
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Speaker 1: and comedians there. So that's what we're talking about relationship.
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Speaker 1: It was not only from a standpoint he and I
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Speaker 1: shared the same love giving people opportunities, finding fresh talent
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Speaker 1: and exposed them to a bigger model. And that's what
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Speaker 1: your show doing right now with with Laugh Mall Laugh Tracks,
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Speaker 1: which is in the second season on True TV. Now
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Speaker 1: you know the other part to it, though, I just
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Speaker 1: wanted to add and is you didn't have to. It
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Speaker 1: didn't just because that Cham didn't mean to go out
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Speaker 1: there and just be runchy. But it's such about where
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Speaker 1: you are with with your stand up you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean. It's just about being funny. You was never runchy,
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Speaker 1: but you was able just to be like funny with it.
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Speaker 1: And what happens with last Mob Laugh Tracks is I'm
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Speaker 1: thinking stand up comedy, the jokes that you could paint
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Speaker 1: the picture of the story that you're telling. It ain't
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Speaker 1: a one minute on and off. It's a three minute
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Speaker 1: story with the beginning, a middle, and an end. You know.
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Speaker 1: So I think that what we're doing this last on
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Speaker 1: our Lab Tractors, they're bringing stand up comedy back to
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Speaker 1: the part form that it was so you can see
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Speaker 1: more of African Americans and you know, just people with
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Speaker 1: flavor even have stands, um have sitcoms because you know,
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Speaker 1: from Ray Romano to d l Too to Berney. Their
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Speaker 1: sitcoms was based off of their stand up. You know,
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Speaker 1: that's where it is. Yeah, you know, it's really funny
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Speaker 1: because you know what I was looking at. I was going, like,
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Speaker 1: my routine I should do on snoring. How's it the
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Speaker 1: people who fall asleep? Who snore managed to fall asleep first?
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Speaker 1: You know that we are a perfect routine for what
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Speaker 1: you're doing, because that whole time, while I'm doing a routine,
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Speaker 1: you see a guy in the bed, he's snowing, his
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Speaker 1: wife looking at him going sounded like a fog horn
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Speaker 1: over there. All that are out of the house. You know,
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Speaker 1: you know we're doing a little So that's so I was.
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Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was having so much fun
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Speaker 1: looking at the creative side of it. But I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: just tell you what sold me on. It was the
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Speaker 1: lip sync being able to match up the dialogue of
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Speaker 1: what the actors were saying with what the comedian was saying.
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Speaker 1: That was, I'm gonna tell you some man that is
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Speaker 1: dead on from a comedic standpoint, Dude, I participate in
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Speaker 1: be a part of the end of day of the
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Speaker 1: week because you're not. You're not. Because I remember a
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Speaker 1: long time ago, you know, when they had BT comic view,
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Speaker 1: they tried to do something like this, but they did it.
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Speaker 1: So but if the comics came across in a negative light,
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Speaker 1: and so this right here is so positive. Plus, man,
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Speaker 1: you can just drop those videos on social media, go
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Speaker 1: viral because you're telling the story because, like you said,
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Speaker 1: it really is on a bigger perspective. Whether it's Tim
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Speaker 1: Allen you know what I'm saying, or like s Ray Romano,
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Speaker 1: Uh Seinfeld, Steve Harvey. All these people are doing are
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Speaker 1: taking license of their comedic life and putting it too
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Speaker 1: a half hour sitcom. That's what you're doing with multiple
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Speaker 1: community is the other part to it. Though the other
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Speaker 1: part too, it is okay, you take a song, all right,
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Speaker 1: No different than and when you talk about the lip
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Speaker 1: syncing and stuff, people would go to soul training and
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Speaker 1: take your lips and soul. Right did you take this?
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Speaker 1: You take a joke like you teat to the joke
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Speaker 1: like it's your soone, okay. Instead of making a music
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Speaker 1: video now you're making in comedy video base once of
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Speaker 1: your three minutes. Yes, so now what happens is you
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Speaker 1: own that thing. So when other people were out of
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Speaker 1: here like it was this thing and people could have
18:43
Speaker 1: the same premise, but how do you present it? This
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Speaker 1: is the way you present that you're my love is Free,
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Speaker 1: And somebody else might have the same song my Love
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Speaker 1: is Free, but it's done a different way. You know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. But it's your, it's your song, it's
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Speaker 1: your it's your joke. I'll tell this is talking to
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Speaker 1: Bob Sumner. He's the executive producer of Laugh Mall Laugh Tracks,
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Speaker 1: which is in the second season on True TV, and
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Speaker 1: incredible founder of Comedians. He's an impact of careers, not
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Speaker 1: only in my careers, but careers like Cedric the entertainer
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Speaker 1: of course, Bernie mc monique. The list goes on, Chris Tucker,
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Speaker 1: The list goes on and on, people who have changed
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Speaker 1: the landscape. You know, I look at you like a
19:20
Speaker 1: grandfather of all of us because of the fact that you,
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Speaker 1: you know, you touched us in such a cool way.
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Speaker 1: Ball when you look at you know, like when I
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Speaker 1: looked at the fact of what Steve and I did
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Speaker 1: for daytime television, you know, family, if you talk show,
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Speaker 1: and I look at Cedric when I was interviewing Cedric said,
19:36
Speaker 1: that's et Cedric seeing you on CVS, I said, I
19:38
Speaker 1: know you did the w B. I know you did
19:40
Speaker 1: the but you on CBS now and he went, You're
19:43
Speaker 1: right with Shawn, that's a big difference. You know, I
19:46
Speaker 1: look at that man, you know, I look at I.
19:48
Speaker 1: I just I just marvel man at the uh at
19:51
Speaker 1: what what what's being accomplished across the board? Well? What
19:55
Speaker 1: what is your take on all that? Man? Because because
19:57
Speaker 1: all you were doing was just looking for known talent
20:00
Speaker 1: or some talent that was known and putting on a show.
20:03
Speaker 1: HBO green lit the show and and it turned into
20:06
Speaker 1: a phenomenon, man selling out arenas. Wow, Well my thing
20:11
Speaker 1: is this man? And in my lane, nobody was really
20:14
Speaker 1: doing a lot of things I was doing, Like, for one,
20:18
Speaker 1: you know, I started out in the music industry and
20:20
Speaker 1: I was a DJ, and I bought the DJ constant
20:24
Speaker 1: to commity. You know, That's why I had plead the
20:28
Speaker 1: d jay on the Comedy Game, because I was doing
20:30
Speaker 1: that in my little rooms that I had, And you
20:34
Speaker 1: know I always did that. Um Berry Gordy and what
20:38
Speaker 1: he did with um taking all these young talented artists
20:42
Speaker 1: out of the boost the projects and what have you
20:45
Speaker 1: and churched them into superstars and music I pretty much
20:48
Speaker 1: wanted to do that same thing this comedy, and a
20:52
Speaker 1: couple of a couple of quotes that happened recently that
20:55
Speaker 1: I saw that was kind of interesting. Mike Epps in
20:58
Speaker 1: Every magazine stated that I was like the Yoda or
21:02
Speaker 1: Mozart of And it was crazy because just Um recently
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Speaker 1: Academy Award winner who's one of my best friends, Regina King,
21:12
Speaker 1: we was on the teleconference and she was trying to
21:15
Speaker 1: explain to the people who I was, and she said,
21:19
Speaker 1: if anybody saw Reggie Hudland's Um Black Godfather, The Story
21:24
Speaker 1: of Clarence Ablon, the documentary, she said, well, if Clarence
21:28
Speaker 1: Aberhood was you know who he is. To the music industry.
21:33
Speaker 1: She said that I'm the black guy from the comedy.
21:37
Speaker 1: And when you look at it, when it goes back
21:40
Speaker 1: to the continent, you know, there's there's only a few
21:45
Speaker 1: comedians who I haven't had an imprint on that are
21:49
Speaker 1: doing big things right now. And one of them, like
21:53
Speaker 1: when we talked about you know, your your career, and
21:56
Speaker 1: how I had said to you you needed to like
21:59
Speaker 1: try to find you know, what you're doing, so you
22:02
Speaker 1: could come over to you know, the urban side of things.
22:05
Speaker 1: The same thing happened with a young lady by the
22:07
Speaker 1: name of one to site. Okay, I'm so happy to
22:11
Speaker 1: see Wanda in her career, but she fell in right
22:16
Speaker 1: when Deaf Jim was moving out, and and and and
22:20
Speaker 1: the trip is. Wanda used to be my go to,
22:23
Speaker 1: like you as my Houston go to. One of the
22:26
Speaker 1: Wanda would be the one who would set up my
22:29
Speaker 1: showcases in the d c A. But she never once said, Bob,
22:34
Speaker 1: I'm doing this for you put me on the show
22:36
Speaker 1: was even about that. She was just going about it
22:39
Speaker 1: her way because she knew how to be entrepreneurial. Then
22:44
Speaker 1: she was looking at she was doing this stuff and
22:46
Speaker 1: now look at her the big time to produce it
22:49
Speaker 1: and that thing. I'm so proud of her, you know,
22:51
Speaker 1: but it's just it's ways to do it. Because I
22:54
Speaker 1: still have some comedians from back in the day. They're
22:56
Speaker 1: still upset me because they didn't get there because the
23:02
Speaker 1: right right right right right right right right right right.
23:07
Speaker 1: Well you, Bob, thank you for coming on my show. Um, definitely, Uh.
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Speaker 1: This show has been amazing money making conversation because it
23:13
Speaker 1: allowed me to really realize my personal impact in the
23:16
Speaker 1: industry and then talk to people who are making an
23:18
Speaker 1: impact even today, decades later, and you're one of the people,
23:23
Speaker 1: one of the stars of establishing a brand of comedic
23:26
Speaker 1: comedic talent in the industry as so many different levels.
23:29
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Bob Summer, executive Sumner, executive producer of
23:33
Speaker 1: Laugh Mob Laugh Tracks, which is on in the second
23:36
Speaker 1: season on True TV and you can see it on
23:38
Speaker 1: Friday nights. Bob, thank you for calling my show my man.
23:41
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Brother. Listen one last thing, you know,
23:44
Speaker 1: I'm also of Curative Comedy at the Apollo Theater. See
23:48
Speaker 1: see see now that come on, now we're gonna let's
23:50
Speaker 1: gonna extend this interview. Talk about that. Now. See see
23:53
Speaker 1: what you ain't gonna do to me, Bob, what you
23:54
Speaker 1: ain't gonna like? So, by the way, by the way,
24:00
Speaker 1: when I went out to l A to build my
24:01
Speaker 1: brand web, I went to the comedy store. When I
24:06
Speaker 1: started giving comedians an opportunity there who wasn't getting the
24:09
Speaker 1: opportunity then as a thing, as time went by, you know,
24:14
Speaker 1: some thing's happening over there that was not under my control.
24:18
Speaker 1: And I was like, um, ceremoniously, um just scored it away. Racis.
24:27
Speaker 1: But you know, God is so good. As a matter
24:29
Speaker 1: of fact, chicken is good. God is great, Okay, And
24:33
Speaker 1: I had an opportunity. I got a phone call from
24:36
Speaker 1: the world famous Apollo Theater to see if I would
24:39
Speaker 1: be interested in helping them bring the comedy, you know,
24:42
Speaker 1: comedy back. So what we did was we um we
24:47
Speaker 1: we actually brought in the first three non musical performers
24:52
Speaker 1: into the Apollo Walker thing, and that would be Red Fox,
24:56
Speaker 1: Richard Pryor in the late Greek um Jackie Mom's Maze.
25:01
Speaker 1: And that just kicked us off into a series that
25:04
Speaker 1: we do called The Apollo Comedy Club. And we're five
25:08
Speaker 1: years in over there, and what I'm doing is just
25:11
Speaker 1: what the Apollo does. Stars are born, legends are made.
25:15
Speaker 1: I'm showcasing a lot of the next generation. There's one
25:19
Speaker 1: guy in particular, UM named Marshall Brandon, who I honestly
25:23
Speaker 1: believe is the next Bernie Max slash Robin Having. He
25:27
Speaker 1: captivates audiences like that, but nobody really knows who he
25:31
Speaker 1: is yet. But you and I we're gonna talk. Hey, Bob,
25:39
Speaker 1: look at just a twenty Roshan and Bob, this is
25:45
Speaker 1: what I've been doing all my life. This is what
25:46
Speaker 1: you've been doing all your life. We just have not
25:48
Speaker 1: produced anything together, but understand that will change in twenty
25:53
Speaker 1: Bob something, the incredible talent, Scole, the incredible producer. Just
25:57
Speaker 1: just google his name. Is you any r first name Bo,