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has assembled yet again. Saul, Josh, how are
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you guys doing? I am ecstatic. I'm so excited
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for this week. It is a busy week indeed. Very
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good weekend. I'm going to have Josh back. Yes.
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We're going to go at it. We're going to go at
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it next time when I get to either cope or lord
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it over you until the end of time. I'm going
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to try and be like, no, see, I wasn't talking
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that much shit retroactively. If things go sideways.
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He's going to have to reprint a retraction. Copyright
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claim the episode if Nakatani loses. Copyright
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claim. Say something about Sir Music. Hey, I
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from the artist to use their stuff. We'll tell
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that to Kendrick Lamar. Oh yeah, that one time
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I used the Kendrick Lamar song. That was fun.
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It was up for like two months before it got the
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copyright claim. That's actually a pretty good
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time. Yeah. Well, we don't have... There is MMA
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stuff going on, but we don't give a shit about
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that right now because there's way too much good
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boxing. But if you want to hear the MMA chatter,
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ultimate effing casuals, I expect those guys
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are more excited about the boxing as well. Yeah,
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I was going to say, this is a bit of a... This
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is a boxing weekend. Heavy boxing weekend. Shanada's
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there. Shout out Shanada, who is actually at
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our crown jewel of this weekend. We got Shanada
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on the ground. Yeah, she got that sick jacket.
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Oh, you're right. That jacket is fire. You're
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going to see me so hyped. Before we get to the
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fights, a little bit of news. Fucking a little
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bit. A lot of news. A little bit? This is half
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a page. Yeah. Really quickly, the boxing survey
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continues. bxng .co slash survey. And you've
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heard me ramble on about the Muhammad Ali Revival
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contact info and then use my blurb. Don't use
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it. I don't really care. Just make contact and
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that'll really help. Make yourself heard because
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this is a serious issue affecting our sport.
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Are we going to be able to talk about this in
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a hearing, by the way? I don't... Not right now,
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just because we've got a lot of news to get through
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and then we've got a lot of big fights coming
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up. It's also a bit of an evolving situation.
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But I do want to talk about, like, De La Hoya
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and Nico Oli Walsh. Oli Walsh, yeah. He comported
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himself really well. I'm actually, I was actually
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pretty proud. Yeah. He represented us nicely.
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Talk about another day. Yeah. Maybe even next
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week. Yeah, I think next week will be better
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when we have a little bit more time. Anthony
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Joshua versus Tyson Fury is going down in Q4.
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I'm so sure. I'm so sure this is happening. This
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has happened multiple times. The Ring Magazine
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is announcing it, if that lends it any credence.
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The Ring Magazine also announced Mike Tyson and
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Floyd Mayweather Jr. That's supposed to be in
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two weeks, isn't it? Yeah. I thought it was supposed
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to have already happened. Well, that shows. How
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credible this source really is. You don't take
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Mike Coppinger's word as gospel? Oh, I got it.
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What is it? Was it Brandon Rios that said he
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looked a little homophobic slur in the face?
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If we remember. Yeah, I remember that was Brandon
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Rios. Brandon Rios said that, right? Yeah. Bam,
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bam. Yeah, I found it. I told Brandon Rios he
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looks drawn in the face. Told me I look a little
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homophobic slur in the face. A little British
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cigarette in the face? Yeah. That's not very
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nice. Well, it's funny. Brandon Rios probably
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looked fine. There was no reason to say that
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to him, right? Robert Garcia, why would you ever
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let your man do this? One thing that is certain,
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though, is AJ's comeback fight. He's facing Christian
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Prenga of Albania. The Albanian Dave Allen. All
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right. I think I might think about fat ass because
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I know people were saying that he's facing someone
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named Pregnant. My first thing I thought of was
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he's facing someone named Pringles. I thought
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Pringles too. I guess it tracks him. I found
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out because of a quote retweet that said he's
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facing the Albanian Dave Allen with a highlight
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tape of the opponent. And it's the crustiest
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footage you'll ever see. And he does look like
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Dave Allen fighting. Hey, you never know. You
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never know in boxing. One punch can change anything.
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But yeah, we'll see how soon that's going to
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happen. That one's going to happen in Saudi Arabia,
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which I guess is fine considering it's kind of
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a nothing opponent. But as long as AJ Fury's
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in the UK, I'm cool. Tim Zhu drops his whole
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ass team. And he's going to be training with
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Jeff Fennec. Yeah, he dropped him again. Sorry,
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I had to read the again part. Being like, again,
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right. Yep. So I was saying to Shanada that this
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reminds me of when Oscar De La Hoya would lose.
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He would change his camps around. And he'd get
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new trainers and stuff. Or new coaches. And it's
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a lack. I think it's a lack of introspection
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where in Tim's mind, the problem can never, it
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could not possibly be me. I'm not, it's not my
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fault that I keep getting these nasty ass cuts.
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It's not my fault that I lose, get fucking slimed
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by some no -name Russian. It cannot be my fault.
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I thought when he went to the Cuban trainer,
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I thought that was... Yeah, he looked... It was
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a good move, I thought. Yeah, it was pretty good.
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It would shore up some of his deficiencies, like
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his defensive lapses. But now he drops them again
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after one fight. Like, dude, you need to get
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some consistency in your life. Well, I don't
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think his name is Tim Consistency Zoo. That's
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never happening, guys. Sorry. Yeah, and it doesn't
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help that his brother's starting to catch up.
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No, man. Do you think these brothers ever fight?
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No. Never. I don't think so. They're probably
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headlining with each other like the Charlo's.
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Yeah, that I can see. Gotta boost the career
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of Nikita with the name of Tim. I'm surprised
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they haven't done that already. Like in Australia,
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at least. Yeah. Robacy Ramirez signs with this
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organization I've never heard of, Raised Boxing.
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No idea who that is, but... At least it's not
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Zufa. Which is probably where he belongs anyways.
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That might be a good move for him. This organization's
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Instagram page was created five days ago. So
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maybe Robesi signed with his own? They appear
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to be an Uzbek promotion. Why the fuck would
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this Cuban Olympian go to... Like, they're signing,
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like, Middle Eastern and, like, far Eastern European
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guys. Yeah, Central Asian type guys. Well, they're
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trying to boogeyman Max. Yeah, that's true. To
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be fair, you build the guys up locally and then
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cash them out, rinse and repeat is not a bad
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strategy. They're going to post videos online
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with some silly audio in the background of them
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getting knockouts over some fucking locals. Oh
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my god, this guy's the next one. He's going to
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knock out Andrew Maloney or some shit like that.
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Hey, respect the Maloney brothers. That, at least
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Andrew, to me, he's the credible one. Yeah. Jason's
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a fucking weirdo. Yeah, the one who lost to Junto
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is the one that I hold as a credible one for
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agenda reasons. One day you're going to get a
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Uzbek that they put on saying... This is the
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guy that knocked out Isaac Chalumba the fastest
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in under 10 seconds. They already did that. They
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did it with a Cuban. Yeah, they just did that.
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Oh, well. In under 9 seconds. Isaac Chalumba.
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Oh, man. He'll go down in history. At least in
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Discord history. That's Goop, man. Dreamface?
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Yeah. Sorry, I gotta look at the image again.
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We got Dalton Smith pulling out of his fight
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in June. Undisclosed injury. Now, not to take
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a total shit on him, but this is the suspicious
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guy has power out of nowhere, mistimes his cycle,
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and fakes an injury. tinfoil hat there is potential
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for that to be the case interesting but that
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that's more of a like this happens a little too
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frequently for me to like fully believe undisclosed
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injury yeah wasn't calum smith out with an undisclosed
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injury yes and i mean alleged well you know okoli's
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whole excuse was the bicep that was undisclosed
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until the drug failure And then suddenly he had
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torn biceps. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's
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not the fact that you're injured and pulling
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out, whatever that happens. You can get hit by
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a car on your way to the fight type thing. You
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can slip in the bathtub. But undisclosed is the
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part that I'm like, okay, maybe we should be
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a little suspicious. Yeah, because why wouldn't
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they want to disclose it? It's a needle stick
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injury. I mean, obviously, if they can make the
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case that they do the fight later on, then they
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know where to, you know, attack. But if it's
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something like, you know, you fucking, you tore
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your ass or some shit like that, I don't know.
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Yeah, like, I don't know, like, anal fissures?
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Like, there's no way. Yeah, like, come on. Yeah.
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I agree with Josh here that it seems pretty fishy.
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Guy gets power out of nowhere. We'll see. Maybe
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I missed. Being a Matthias apologist. Xander
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Zayas re -signs with Top Rank. Well, he extends
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his contract multi -year, multi -fight. Interesting
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move. Bad move from Top Rank. I think they would
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have gotten him really cheap right after Boots
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rips in the pieces. That or they really believe
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the guy. It seems like they really believe in
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him. Realistically, if you're the usual slimy
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promoter, you already know you're sending him
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out to die. You just extend him when his value
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is at an all -time low for cheap. Maybe that
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was the reason. They can see it. Maybe they made
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him take the fight, and if he took the fight,
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then they would sign another deal. Maybe that's
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why they did it. I don't know. But it is pretty
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interesting they did it before the fight happened.
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Seemed like, if anything, that he was going to
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get dropped by the promotional company. They
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were just letting him get slaughtered by boots.
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So then they cut their losses or something. I
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don't know. But it is an interesting move. I'm
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sure they have outs. That's true. They usually
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build shit like that in where, like, if you drop
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the ball too many times in a row, like, they
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can cut you. They have guys around the weight,
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too, that they could probably feed Sias to. Rebuild
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him. Yeah. Like, there's profits. He's Puerto
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Rican and pretty popular, so. And 22. He's very
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young. Yeah, so that's not bad. It's just that,
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like, you could have waited. Unless you really
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believe in him, you could have waited to get
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him at a bargain price. Very interesting top
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rank moves, I'll tell you. I've not seen a move
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like this. Yeah, I didn't see this coming. Not
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right now, anyway. What about Bam? He was re
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-signing with Matchroom. It's a multi -fight
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deal that is going to extend about three years.
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So it's most likely that... it'll extend to the
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end of his career because Bam intends to retire
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pretty early. It's a pretty good move, I will
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say. I mean, Matchroom has been getting the biggest
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fights, the biggest paydays. Yeah, at his weight
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class. Exactly, why go somewhere else? And it's
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in the same sphere as Inoue Nakatani, the take
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on loser, winner, whatever. Exactly. Why not
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both? Speaking of torn biceps, Jared Anderson
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is out. of the may 9th card with a torn biceps
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with a disclosed injury yeah you see how do you
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see how to do it belton you see what and then
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this was the injury well that's because we're
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american he's american it's it's a it seems uh
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like a kind of a trend that's the british cultural
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thing yeah the british guys are not saying anything
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they're being sneaky about it i've never thought
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about it but you're right they don't ever really
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disclose Unless the fighter has been living and
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training in the U .S., then they do. But Brits,
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for the most part, don't say why they're pulling
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out of fights. Maybe it's the British Boxing
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Board of Control regulation where they don't
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have to. Yeah, that's what I was thinking as
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well. Yeah. Let's see here. The IBF ordered...
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Teofimo Lopez versus Lindolfo Delgado for their
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vacant 140 title. Teofimo rejects it and says
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welterweight division take notice. Oh, Jesus.
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I don't know what he's going to do up there,
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but I'll tell you this, that Lindolfo is getting
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a pretty easy shot at a title for the first time
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in his career at, what, 32? I think he's going
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to be fighting Uzbek with a mediocre record.
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Yeah. And that's giving him some grace as well.
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I don't know. Obviously, Teofimo's probably going
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to want to fight either Ryan or Haney at 147.
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I feel like neither of them are going to be,
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especially Haney. I don't think he's going to
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fight Haney. The most, I would say, likely option
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would be Ryan. But even it seems that Ryan's...
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in negotiations with Ben right now. A lot of
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contradicting points about Ryan Garcia's future
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opponent, though. Because Ryan himself said that
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he's going to be fighting Teofimo on the screen.
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I mean, do with that as you will, but Ring Magazine
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and all these other boxing news outlets are saying
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that Ryan and Ben are in early negotiations.
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So you don't know what to believe. For Teofimo,
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I mean, again, not many offers at 147. You could
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fight Ryan Norman Jr. That's an easy WBO top
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-ranked guy if you want to go for that WBO. Which
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he will, being a top -ranked guy. Yeah. Obviously,
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Devin Haney has a WBO, so he could just kind
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of hold on to that position as a mandatory challenger.
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I don't know. There's many ways he can go. Of
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all the many ways that he can go, though, I don't
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see very many of them going well. His power was
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good at 135. It was okay, I guess, at 140. But
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moving up to the full 47, I really don't think
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he's going to have the power to keep guys away
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from him. Even Devin Haney would walk through
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it. I don't know. I feel as if... I think this
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most winnable fight would either be against Lewis
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Kroc or Roley Romero, but those are kind of given.
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Probably Roley Romero would be his most likely
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option for a fight, given how they kind of teased
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in the past. That would be some... The build
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-up would be pretty insane. Let's see here. Sebastian
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Fandora and Jermel Charlo negotiations are in
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preliminary stages. This is a good fight. Maybe
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a couple years ago. I think it's a good fight
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now, still. Like, Jermel hasn't done much, but
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also, like, I don't think he's so unbelievably
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washed. Just because he's not as indisciplined
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as his brother. Well, again, when was the last
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time Jermel even fought? Canelo. And how long
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ago was that? A while ago, but he's also... I
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just think he's not... He hasn't had that track
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record of being as, like, horribly indisciplined
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as Jermall outside of the ring. No, but, I mean,
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it's been three years since he fought Canelo.
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Obviously, Reign of Rust is going to take over.
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He's 35. It's not like he's young right now.
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Yeah. I just don't think... I think there's worse
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fights at 154. 100%. Oh, no, I agree, but...
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I mean, you have the old king versus the new
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king. That's how... The PBC can sell it like
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that, but at the end of the day, it's... Again,
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we don't really want to see them. Who else is
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available? Let's think about it. Virgil's in
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court. 154. Virgil's in court. Ennis and Zayas
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are fighting. Josh Kelly's fighting someone else.
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Is he? Who is he? I think he's thrown to his
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mandatory or a rematch. So Kelly's out. And then
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you have... Madrimov, who just fought. You have
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Tim Zhu, who just shook up his entire team and
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is still being rebuilt. And then you have a bunch
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of guys who are about the same as fighting Jermel.
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Tim Zhu Trilogy, though? No, thank you. Yeah,
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that's what I'm saying. You have Tim Zhu Trilogy,
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Madrimov, who isn't on the same schedule, or
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you basically go to the level of opponent that
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Jermel is. I got one young guy, obviously, but
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has lost. Ioannis Tejas. He just fought on a
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PPC card against Brian Mendoza. That's not a
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bad shout, actually. That is a good one. I mean,
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again, it's not the best fight, but it's a fight
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against a young guy. Is he cozied up enough with,
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like, the belts for it to make sense for, like,
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a fundora defense? I'm not too sure. I think,
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well, he was going the WBA route. He wasn't going
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to WPC. So I'm not sure. By the way, it's thanks
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to PPC. Oh, yeah. So. You have to consider, like,
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I'm like, it's best available opponent considering
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the fact that, like, the fights we actually want
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to see with Fandora are just unavailable at the
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moment. Or that they're not going to happen at
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all because PBC is not going to let him out of
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the stable like that. Tejas is 13th in the PBC.
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Tejas could. Tejas could. I'm actually not going
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to blame the PBC for that. Pretty disingenuous
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to say. It's more so his manager. What's his
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name? Fandora's handlers have treated him like
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that. Yeah. Yeah, they're holding him back. He's
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not held by Samson. He is Samson. Oh, yeah. Yeah,
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Samson. Samson Lukowitz, yeah. He's held back
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by Samson Lukowitz. So, the fact that they're
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guarding him like that, they're obviously not
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comfortable with him fighting any of the other
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top guys because, I mean, you see Samson letting
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out someone like David Benavidez. He's even letting
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out, when he had him, he let out Edwin. You know?
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Samson is just kind of safeguarding him for a
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reason. You know, he's pretty safe at PPC. They're
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going to keep fitting him low to your opposition.
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And Jermel, yes, he was undisputed. And yes,
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he was pretty great during his heyday. But his
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heyday was five years ago. His last fight with
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Canelo, he was sad, to say the least. And he
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went up to 168. I mean, come on. The Charlo's
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keep broad -dogging it with getting title shots
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these days, I tell you. Would you say that Jermell
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is the lineal champion? He's been away for a
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while, but he did... Lineal really can only be
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followed in divisions where people don't hop
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weight classes, I'd say. Like, yes, he is technically
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lineal at 154, but he did also hop up to 168
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the one time. Well, who did he beat before that
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would give him that lineal status? Yeah, I just...
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Would it be, what, Trout? Was it him or his brother
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that beat Trout? I know Jermel beat Trout. He
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was a chick. Yeah, he did in June of 18. Yeah.
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I just think, like, unless it's heavyweight,
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like, it's really hard. It's not worth tracking
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lineal. Yeah. But, because. Just trying to legitimize
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this in some way. Well, it's just best available.
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Like, it's better name, best available opponent.
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That, like, is realistic for a fundura, so. Yeah.
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I mean, again, it's not horrible, but it's also...
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Yeah, like, it's not... Come on. It's not travesty,
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but also, like, you need to get your career going
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a bit more than this. Yeah. Because, I mean,
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does a Charlo fight really sell now? Maybe if
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you did it in Houston. Yeah, I was about to say,
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it depends where it is. Because, I mean, the
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thing with Sebastian Fornora is he can't really
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sell in his hometown because his hometown doesn't
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really have a lot of... It's not a big sports
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area. It's Coachella. They do a lot of cards
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in Indio. In Indio, yes, but in Indio, they don't
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really have any stadiums, kind of what I'm saying.
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Oh, yeah, it's just casinos. They have the small
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rooms. Yeah, exactly. They don't have the huge
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stadiums. They could maybe sell at Anaheim, but,
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I mean, again, he would have to be in Jermel's
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home turf. And yeah, they would sell tickets,
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but pay -per -view, I don't know. Agit Caballel
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scraps his TBA fight that was supposed to be
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in May, and he will be waiting for his mandatory
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shot against Usyk. You guys think this is a good
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move? Will the WBC enforce it? Right. You said
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Agit Caballel enforces his mandatory status to
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fight Usyk? Yeah, but will the WBC enforce it?
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Will they honor the... The call from Caballel.
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I'm going to say it again. Caballel activates
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his mandatory status as a WBC mandatory challenger.
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It's the WBC we're talking here. I was going
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to say, the WBC, will they actually honor this
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and do it? The answer is no. Nothing's going
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to happen. It's sad. That's the saddest thing
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about this whole Zufa versus Belts divide because,
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again, we love... our side of the sport, but
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then you have shit like this going on with Ajit
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Kabayel and Usyk, and then you have Sebastian
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Fundora and Virgil. And it's frustrating because,
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yes, we know Zufa sucks, but even over here,
26:43
it's not great. Shanada did point out something
26:48
that I thought was interesting, and it's that
26:50
Usyk is not afraid to drop a title. He's done
26:54
it twice. He's going to do it again. Either that
26:58
or he retires. There's literally no one else
27:01
for him to fight. Unless he wants a hard challenger
27:03
like Edge of Cabello. Do that in Germany, it
27:05
would sell like gangbusters. But it's not going
27:09
to happen, I don't think. Yeah, I don't think
27:10
so either. We'll see him fight someone like Wilder.
27:14
If he even fights again. I think he will. Wilder
27:17
just got the win over Chizora. So that's nice.
27:25
And he's the only name that he's like of the
27:27
Mount Rushmore of the of the heavyweight generation.
27:30
The only one he doesn't have is Wilder. Yeah.
27:36
But yeah, I don't I don't see Caballel getting
27:40
his shot. Unfortunately. Speaking of shots, Kenneth
27:47
Lover versus Michael Angeletti for the IBF bantamweight.
27:53
It's an eliminator. And it'll be on June 6th.
27:58
This was more of a Shinada line. Yes. And Luis
28:02
Neri, John Real Casimiro, same day, June 6th.
28:07
I don't think they're going to be at the same
28:09
place, though. BAM is facing Antonio Vargas in
28:13
Phoenix, June 13th. I will indeed be there. It's
28:18
going to be a... Pretty fun fight for the first
28:21
couple rounds. The guy gets knocked out again.
28:25
And Zufa, they're going to be putting on an event
28:28
outside of the Apex, Southern California. And
28:33
it looks like Brandon Lee is going to be one
28:35
of the featured fights. The top three, I think
28:38
they usually... I wonder who they're going to
28:42
put as the main. It's got to be Hispanic. Hispanic
28:46
man. They want to sell. They just signed a bunch
28:54
of shitty cruiserweights. It's possible. Floyd
28:58
Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao is back on. It is
29:04
a fully sanctioned bout. I know the world was
29:09
waiting to hear more news about that. Like it's
29:14
going to happen? It's going to happen, guys.
29:17
It's going to happen immediately after the Jerome
29:20
Miller and Mike Tyson fight. Yeah. And also in
29:24
June, Floyd Mayweather is fighting Iron Mike.
29:31
Zambidis. Yeah, like I said, Mike Tyson is going
29:36
to fight Jerome Miller instead. I'll tell you,
29:40
it's going to happen. That's it for the news,
29:43
though. You guys got anything that I missed,
29:45
maybe? I do want to add on to the point about
29:48
Dalton Smith and Alberto Puello, that the main
29:54
has become Galalia Fai and Ricardo Sandoval.
29:58
Thank you. I just want to add that in. Ricky
30:02
Sandy. Let's move into the reviews. We don't
30:06
have a whole lot of them. Let's see. Friday,
30:09
April 17th, we had MVPW02. The main and co -main
30:18
are the only ones I really watch, to be honest.
30:22
Lonnie Daniels put Shadesha Green into the hospital.
30:27
She had a brain bleed. Apparently, all signs
30:30
are pointing to that she's okay. I'd just maybe
30:34
consider... Retirement. Yeah, consider doing
30:37
something else from this point. And Bob Gardner...
30:43
Beat the hell out of Bomi Rae Shin. But Shin
30:47
was super tough. At no point did she even seem
30:52
to be considering the possibility of the thought
30:57
of quitting. So, credit to her. Gotta say it
31:02
was a very fun fight with Alicia Baumgartner.
31:05
You know what? I'll say this too. I think that
31:10
Alicia Baumgartner right now... He needs to fight
31:13
Caroline Dubois. That would be a hell of a fight,
31:16
and I think it would be probably one of the bigger
31:20
paydays of her career. The reason I say that
31:23
also is because it sounds like he doesn't want
31:25
to mess with Caroline Dubois. She doesn't want
31:28
any of that smoke. I'm not trying to claim that
31:30
I'm trying to glaze Caroline Dubois. All I'm
31:35
saying is what I've seen from the actions of
31:39
Alicia Bumgarner. I thought it was Baumgartner
31:43
was the one that was calling for it. It seems
31:46
as if that, at least from some of the interviews,
31:49
she's saying that Caroline Dubois needs to go
31:53
to her, that Baumgartner is the queen. The A
31:59
-side. Yeah, the A -side. Kind of pricing herself
32:04
out, in a sense. Lame. Like, she's bigger than
32:07
that fight. What is she going to do? Undisputed
32:11
with Caroline Veyer instead? Yeah, I don't know.
32:17
The next day, Saturday, April 18th, matchroom
32:22
in Liverpool. Leo Etang went the distance. He
32:28
got the scoring referee points decision over
32:30
Victor Chivarku. Meatball Molly McCann looked
32:36
actually pretty solid. Against Ashley Johnson.
32:41
Joe McRaele. Knocks out Aaron Hayden. And Ben
32:47
Whitaker. Knocks out. Brian Suarez. Speaking
32:53
of Brits with no power. Finding it out of nowhere.
32:56
I was thinking. This was a good. A better demonstration.
33:01
I think that Ben Whitaker. Has left the. I'm
33:06
the next incarnation of Emmanuel Augustus. He's
33:10
left that behind. He got a stern talking to from
33:15
Terrence Crawford who told him that you need
33:19
to stop fucking around so much. You have the
33:23
talent, so use it. But yeah, that's it. It was
33:27
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33:30
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April 29th. We've got a matchroom card in Melbourne.
37:13
Or Melbourne Pavilion in Kensington. That's fun.
37:20
Headline is Sky Nicholson vs. Mariah Turner.
37:24
And down the bill, Tara Moana vs. Bowie Tupou.
37:31
And that's about it. Not much to say about that
37:35
one, I'll tell you. Nope. Friday, May 1st, Provox
37:42
TV at the Maryland Live Casino in Hanover. Provox,
37:52
they're going to put on good fights for you.
37:54
The headline is Sembatar Erdinabat vs. Kobia
37:58
Breedy. Sembatar is about to graduate from the
38:04
Provox Academy. And he's going to get himself
38:07
into the title picture here pretty soon. Just
38:09
about. I'm going to skip ahead and talk about
38:14
these first so that we can spend the most time
38:16
on the big ones. So, Sunday, May 3rd, if you're
38:22
nursing a hangover, as I might be, maybe, you
38:27
want some boxing to throw on, to have in the
38:30
background, you've got Top Tier on DAZN. The
38:34
only fight that matters to me on this one, Sam
38:37
Noakes. He's fighting, I think, a guy named Henry
38:41
Turner. I got switched. It's Benito Sanchez Garcia,
38:45
17, 19, and 4. Oh, great. A random Mexican out
38:51
of nowhere. This never goes poorly for Brits.
38:55
His last 10 are all losses with one draw. Benito?
39:00
Does he have, like, 17? something no he has five
39:06
knockouts okay yeah this is the same guy knockouts
39:11
that would be hilarious this is the same guy
39:13
yeah since the last time i saw him he was 17
39:18
17 and 4 and now he's fucking 17 19 and 4 um
39:23
i was saying this i remember seeing with gary
39:26
cully that was the yeah we were saying about
39:30
this like this is the dude that they bring in
39:34
To help the Brits get over the mental hump. Like,
39:37
look, you can beat a Mexican. See? They're not
39:40
all scary fucking monsters. You're right, actually.
39:45
Holy shit. Look at him. Look at all his fights.
39:50
The last, like, ten have been Brits. That's so
39:58
funny. It's just like they bring him in and they're
40:00
like, hey, just give the guy a confidence booster.
40:03
This guy's a real Mexican. Come on. Tuesday,
40:10
May 5th. By the time we reconvene and the time
40:14
that the episode comes out, this fight will have
40:18
already passed, so we're having it now. No limit
40:21
in New South Wales, Australia. The only fight
40:27
is, like, the main one, Nikita Zu versus Oscar
40:30
Diaz. Nikita Zu is fighting very often, I'll
40:34
tell you that. He is keeping himself busy. Yeah.
40:38
It's very good. Now, on to the prize. Shall we
40:46
do... Should we save the crown jewel for last,
40:49
or just go in order of time? I would say save
40:53
the Crown Jewel for last. Crown Jewel for last.
40:56
All right, then. First thing, PBC. This one will
41:01
be on DAZN and Prime, I believe, at the T -Mobile
41:05
Arena in Las Vegas. The main portion of the card,
41:09
we've got Oscar Duarte versus Angel Fierro. That
41:14
is like a low -key fucking barn burner. That's
41:20
one you shouldn't miss. Yeah, it's going to be
41:22
very fun. Isaac Lucero versus Alan Sandoval.
41:27
Armando Resendiz versus Jaime Munguia for the
41:30
WBA super middleweight title. God, Resendiz,
41:33
please do this. As much as you want Resendiz
41:37
to do it, he's going to lose. Munguia. I said
41:40
I want him to do it. I have faith. I have faith,
41:44
but I know he's not going to. I will never have
41:47
faith in Elijah Garcia. Victim. Wow. Or are we
41:53
really putting our faith in a Bruno Saras victim?
41:56
Well, Bruno Saras is the best French fighter
41:59
of all time, so... Jot that down. I honestly
42:06
think that Resendiz has grown from his loss better
42:12
than Jaime Munguia did. When Jaime Munguia lost
42:15
to Canelo, he went off and got fucking sparked.
42:19
Then he... popped for PEDs in the rematch. And
42:25
the results of that popping for PEDs was I investigated
42:31
myself and I found no wrongdoing. Like, are you
42:35
kidding me? And you didn't even, like, if you're
42:38
going to take stuff, you should be getting massive
42:42
knockouts, not boring ass seven to five decisions.
42:46
I think Resendiz has grown for the better. Yeah.
42:50
My faith is as strong as paper mache or like
42:55
a wet paper towel, maybe. But I still believe
42:59
in Resendiz. Is Munguia still training with Eddie
43:05
for this fight? As far as I know. Ooh, okay.
43:11
Never mind. That's going to be even harder. Mong
43:13
Munguia does not exist. He's dead. Yeah, he might
43:18
be dead. I don't know. I think Munguia might
43:23
come out and give us a good showing. I believe
43:25
so. They will beat Resendiz, but... I don't know.
43:30
I cannot put my faith in a guy that really lost
43:32
to Elijah Garcia. I get it. It's a bad loss,
43:35
man. It really is. I absolutely understand the
43:38
point. I get the, like, not wanting to put faith
43:42
in it. He beat Caleb Plant, and that was it.
43:46
Again, Caleb Plant was on a really good run.
43:50
Well, not really good, but it was on a decent
43:53
run. Yeah, I was about to say, a run of determined
43:56
quality. Yeah. Yeah, he beat up a lot of guys
44:01
that are mid -tier, but ended up losing to Resendiz,
44:05
so we shall see. Okay. Oh, shall we see. Gilberto
44:12
Zerdo Ramirez versus David Benavidez. WBA, WBO,
44:17
Cruiserweight titles on the line. I'm riding
44:23
with David Benavidez. I think his hand speed
44:26
is going to present problems. Ramirez looks really
44:30
fucking slow since he's moved up. Since he's
44:34
moved up. He's kind of been slow. He's been slow.
44:39
Even at 168, he was slow. It's gotten worse.
44:44
What I will say about David Benavidez is if his
44:47
hand speed has faded for this fight, up at cruiserweight,
44:52
it's going to be a hard fight if his hand speed
44:57
is gone. If his endurance is gone, if it's waned
45:02
at all, I don't know. He just needs to be durable
45:07
in that fight to win. That's the one thing. He
45:10
just needs to be durable. Benavidez needs to
45:13
be durable? Yeah, Benavidez needs to be durable.
45:16
Zertal's been at that weight class for a while.
45:19
I'm not trying to make the case that Zertal's
45:21
going to win, but I'm trying to make the case
45:23
of how David Benavidez can avoid a hard night
45:26
type of thing, you know? How it might turn out
45:31
if certain things aren't right. I see. I mean,
45:35
we all believe that, babe. There's no way we
45:36
think Zertal's going to win, right? No, Shadada
45:40
does. What's the reasoning? That he's been at
45:45
the weight longer. Yeah, it's cruiserweight,
45:47
though. The quality of opponent is a major concern
45:56
for Zerto. I understand why she thinks that,
46:00
but at the same time, Zerto's also not fought
46:02
the best competition, whereas David has, in a
46:06
sense. The best guy that Zerto fought at cruiserweight
46:10
was... Chris Bill Smith. And washed up the order
46:13
coast. Yeah. Come on, I mean, it's going to be
46:19
a hard climb for Zerto to beat David. I mean,
46:22
they both came from the same weight division.
46:25
They both came from 168. You know, it's not like
46:28
Zerto's coming up from freaking 160 or Zerto's
46:35
been at Cruiserweight his whole entire career.
46:37
They both came from the same weight class. Yeah.
46:42
I mean, it's hard for me to believe that Benavidez
46:44
is not going to beat Zerto. Even when Zerto went
46:47
up, he beat the other guys because they were
46:49
dog shit. No disrespect to the fighters, but
46:53
they wanted the best. They wanted the cream of
46:55
the crop, boxing. So I don't expect David to
46:59
not do the same thing. You guys think he's going
47:02
to get a knockout or what? No, I think it'll
47:04
be a pretty simple Benavidez decision. I agree.
47:10
I think when Benavidez moved up to light heavyweight,
47:14
it's going to be a similar type of fight as to
47:17
that, where he's getting adjusted to the weight.
47:20
He's still dominant, but he's getting adjusted
47:22
to the weight. Oh, like the Vazdik one? Yeah,
47:25
Vazdik. Which, again, I know that fight kind
47:30
of, I don't know, kind of resulted in guys saying
47:35
that Benavidez... Ended up being washed or he
47:40
was overrated or whatever. But, you know, hopefully
47:44
he puts out a good show. Yeah, I've got not very
47:49
much to add. Benavidez, super sharp, very accurate
47:54
with his hands. Very fast hands, as I already
47:57
pointed out. Zerdo is there to be hit. Part of
48:02
his defensive strategy is tanking. the damage
48:07
for some reason. And that's just like a losing
48:11
proposition with Benavidez, who even if he is
48:14
moving up, he does walk around pretty heavy.
48:19
So I don't think it's going to be that big of
48:23
a problem for the weight adjustment. I think
48:28
this is too early to ask, too, but do you guys
48:30
think that Benavidez is going to take over Cinco
48:33
de Mayo weekend? Maybe. September as well. Well,
48:39
I think he's, I mean, if he asked me years ago,
48:43
I would have said Virgil. But we saw how that
48:47
turned out. I got a question. I want to add something
48:50
in, too. I want to add something in. Do you guys
48:53
think that Virgil would have fought Sebastian
48:56
Pandora? Yes. If Pandora accepted it, yes, that
49:00
would have been a great fight. Like if he fought
49:03
him on Cinco de Mayo weekend with Benavidez on
49:06
the undercard, do you think that would have been
49:08
possible? I don't think they would put Benavidez
49:13
on the undercard. No, no, I'm saying he's like,
49:16
I'm saying Virgil would be co -main. Oh. Or do
49:20
you think it would just be co -main? Yeah. I
49:25
still think it's Benavidez just because of how
49:26
their profiles panned out. As a result of a lot
49:32
of things. That'll be his new kill. He's, uh,
49:35
Cinco de Maga. Yeah. Um, let's see here. The
49:41
main, main, main event. Saturday, May 2nd at,
49:47
like, fucking 1 in the morning. We will be online
49:51
and ready to watch. Uh, Ohashi at the Tokyo Dome
49:57
in Tokyo. No shit. Let's see here. The only one
50:03
other than the main event. We got Sora Tanaka
50:07
fighting Jin Sasaki. So at least there's going
50:12
to be one stoppage. In the Mong -Mong Fest? Yeah.
50:16
That one's going to be a good fight. You think?
50:19
Oh, yeah. Well, it'll be a fun fight. It'll be
50:21
entertaining. Guys, I know he's fighting Jin
50:24
Sasaki already. That's pretty quick. Might try
50:28
to reach Sasaki high, but that's a pretty good
50:30
step up for being only 5 -0. Yeah, it is. I think
50:37
Shinada said that Tanaka is kind of cut from
50:40
the same cloth as Jin Sasaki. Very mongish. Former
50:47
118 champ Yoshiki Takei. I fucking totally biffed
50:52
it, and I confused him with Ryosuke Nishida.
50:56
But Takei is facing Dekong Wang. Co -main event,
51:01
Takuma Inoue vs. Kazuto Ioka. WBC bantamweight
51:06
title on the line. If it goes to the cards, there's
51:09
no chance that they let Kazuto win. Oh, 100%.
51:13
Oh yeah, no fucking chance. It's gonna be a...
51:18
If there's a knockout, it's gonna be on Ioka.
51:21
You think he gets slapped? No, I think Ioka stops
51:26
him. Ah. I don't know why, but I... Yeah, he's...
51:31
I don't know. It's weird. Ioka's not at his best.
51:33
He's 37 at a very small weight class. But...
51:37
But... Is Takuma Inoue that great? I think he's
51:43
good enough for the moment. I was going to say
51:45
good enough to beat an old man. With a lot of
51:48
miles on the clock. Yeah, but I was going to
51:51
say, like, you forget that he spent years held
51:54
up with Josh Franco. I mean, I really don't rate
52:01
him. I know Shanada already has Takuma rated
52:04
highly. I'm not saying Takuma is, like, all that,
52:10
but he's very clearly a world beater. And Yoka
52:13
was great, but he was great. Not necessarily
52:17
right now. He did lose to Puma. I'm looking more
52:24
at the fact that he looked at his absolute best
52:27
six years ago when he beat up Kosei Tanaka. I
52:32
don't know. I think he wins. That's just me,
52:37
but I just think he wins. I think he wins by
52:39
knockout. I would like for Ioko to win. That
52:41
would be nice for Ioko to get a good... Five
52:45
division fucking champion. Are you kidding me?
52:51
Shit would be crazy. I think experience beats
52:55
name recognition in a sense. Maybe I haven't
53:00
seen enough Takuma anyway, but from what I've
53:02
seen, he's not all that. I think that why Takuma
53:06
won was because of his pressure. Takuma, in a
53:09
way, he's... He's not a pressure guy. Yeah, he's
53:14
kind of a bong, dude. I'm not gonna lie. Like,
53:17
Takuma's losses... have come to high -pressure
53:20
and high -volume styles of fighting, and Kazuto
53:24
is not that. Even at his best, he was not that.
53:30
So to be in the aged category, in addition to
53:35
shop -worn, the signs do not bode well for Kazuto.
53:44
I am, however, staunchly Team Kazuto. I got Gazato
53:52
for the upset. Oh, man. To fuck up the Inoue
53:58
family party. Oh, that party's getting fucked
54:03
up in the main. No, it's not. No, it's not. Main
54:09
event. Undisputed Super Bantamweight Champion
54:12
Naoya Inoue is facing fellow 32 -0 guy Junto
54:16
Nakatani. who was a unified champion at Bantamweight,
54:19
and I think at Superfly. But, yeah. Naoya Inoue,
54:26
Junta Nakatani. I am fucking stoked. I am so
54:31
excited for this. This is going to be such a
54:32
good fight. This is the fight we've been waiting
54:34
for for years. This is the Super Bowl. Yeah,
54:36
it's been on the tip of everyone's tongue. Anyone
54:40
who knows the smaller weight classes. You don't
54:44
even have to know the small weight classes to
54:46
know who Inoue is. And then to throw Junto into
54:49
the mix here. Holy shit. Oof. I know. I'm going
54:56
to let Josh speak first about this. Because I
54:59
genuinely think that. This is one of the very
55:02
few true 50 -50s in boxing. There's paths to
55:08
win for both of them. And I'm glad it's being
55:11
treated like the event that it is. This fight
55:15
is just going to determine the best of the little
55:18
guys of this generation. It's exciting. To me,
55:24
this feels like the same aura as 1970s Fight
55:30
of the Century with Ali and Joe Frazier. Not
55:34
so much where both guys have a... have a stake
55:37
in saying they're the heavyweight champion or
55:39
that, you know, they are the champion. Obviously,
55:40
Inoue is the champ at this weight class, but
55:44
more so like the gravitas, if that makes any
55:47
sense. The impact to Tokyo, Japanese culture.
55:51
Yeah, they're having lotteries for theater seats
55:55
to watch it at the cinema. I mean, shoot. I've
56:00
even heard some people talk about this in other,
56:04
not so much like casuals, I've not really heard
56:07
any casuals talk about this, but I've heard it
56:09
in other sports areas where they're talking about
56:14
this fight, mainly in baseball. Oh, because there's
56:16
a lot of Japanese players, right? Yeah. Okay.
56:21
So I feel like it's getting some good recognition.
56:24
Yeah, I think so. I know you said this is a 50
56:28
-50 fight. I agree, but I generally think Inoue's
56:32
going to win. We've talked about this before,
56:34
but Inoue... for the last, what, his entire career.
56:37
He's always been fighting guys at his level and
56:40
has a pretty stacked resume. He has experience,
56:43
and he's grown as a fighter. One thing I got
56:47
to say, too, is, I mean, I don't think he's had
56:49
a fight where the guys have had more output than
56:54
him in terms of landing and thrown. Correct me
56:58
if I'm wrong. And the reason I bring that up
57:00
is because he's fighting Nakatani where... I
57:04
mean, again, Nakatani is a great guy. He's a
57:06
great boxer. I'm not trying to put him down.
57:08
I'm not trying to say he's going to lose 100%,
57:11
but as we learned in the Nishida fight and as
57:14
we learned in the Hernandez fight, he mongs out.
57:17
When it's not going his way, he mongs out totally.
57:21
And with Inoue, it's going to go past. I don't
57:24
think personally Inoue has the chin nor the style
57:28
to cause those types of problems, though, which
57:31
is what makes it interesting. If Inoue was a
57:34
come forward bulldoze you guy, I'd be like, there
57:37
would be no hope in hell for Nakatani. But Inoue
57:41
is the type of guy who has fallen for simple
57:46
traps. And Nakatani is one of the best in the
57:49
game at setting these same traps. I agree. Inoue
57:53
in the last, well, fight for a couple. The Ramon
57:58
Cardenas fight? Like, it's a meme to say he gets
58:02
dropped by Uber drivers because, like, it's funny
58:05
slander, but, like, I mean, the guy was a Lyft
58:08
driver. He was a Lyft driver. The guy actually
58:12
was a Lyft driver. Like, I can't even... That's
58:15
not a joke. Seriously, he was. You don't even
58:17
have to make up the slander, you know? To me,
58:20
when I think about it, I think that mainly he
58:24
also underestimated the opponent. As well? Yes.
58:27
I mean, we see Nakatani do the same thing and
58:30
then Mong out. But yeah, Inoue gets better. Nakatani
58:35
kind of falters. I mean, his last fight, again,
58:38
you're right. His last fight was against a come
58:40
forward Mexican fighter. Yeah, like if Nakatani's
58:46
landing in the first three rounds, if Inoue's
58:49
eating them the same way, like, come on. He is
58:53
leaving on a stretcher. That's just... I feel
58:57
as if for the first, like, two or three rounds,
58:59
it's going to be Inoue winning just because I
59:01
feel like, I think I've mentioned this to Leo
59:04
as well before, the lights might be too bright
59:06
for Nakatani. I think it'll be more, like, Inoue
59:10
had a very, I mean, his absolute peak against
59:14
Fulton, you got to see that, like, the way he
59:18
was able to stick the jab and move off of it.
59:23
and i want to see if he still has that or if
59:25
he just hasn't had to use it i feel as if he
59:28
hasn't had to use it just because his recent
59:30
group but it's a real question just because again
59:33
small weight class getting older at a small weight
59:36
class miles on the clock no yeah no you're 100
59:41
right um all i gotta say about that is i mean
59:44
he's experienced at this level he's been at 122
59:48
for for shoot for freaking Three years now? Yeah.
59:55
I'm not going to say the weight class adjustment
59:57
is going to be brutal for Nakatani because he's
1:00:01
a big guy, too. I was going to say, that's one
1:00:05
thing that Nakatani has over Inoue. Inoue has
1:00:08
really fought guys that are taller than him.
1:00:09
A lot taller than him. So that's also a factor
1:00:13
that you've got to take into play. Nakatani has
1:00:16
also fought guys that are often smaller than
1:00:18
him. That's another factor, too. They just match
1:00:21
up really well, and that's what makes it 50 -50.
1:00:24
The fight itself won't be, like, a hyper -competitive,
1:00:29
like, 50 -50, but it's just the pre -fight, like,
1:00:33
it's a toss -up. 100%. It's exciting. The first
1:00:39
three rounds won't even tell us that much. I
1:00:42
think it'll be the middle rounds that really,
1:00:44
barring one fighter steamrolling the other, I
1:00:46
think it'll be the middle rounds that show. Yeah.
1:00:50
What they got. Can I tell you how I feel the
1:00:54
fight's going to play out? Go for it, man. I
1:00:56
generally feel like in the first three rounds,
1:00:58
dude, it's going to be just a whole bunch of
1:01:00
probing. They're not going to be going at it
1:01:02
like crazy. I think both of them, this is going
1:01:06
to be both their biggest fights in their careers,
1:01:08
and I think they know it. They both know it,
1:01:10
that this is their career -defining fight. So
1:01:13
I think that after the first three rounds, after
1:01:16
the probing, one of them's going to get... land
1:01:20
a couple good shots, like what Josh did in the
1:01:23
middle rounds, and then that's when the steam's
1:01:25
going to pick up, and that's when you're going
1:01:26
to see the real fight start. And I believe it's
1:01:29
going to be Inoue that gets it in, just because
1:01:33
he, and I know Nakatani does this very well,
1:01:36
too, but his ability to counter and dodge punches
1:01:42
and throw fucking in -between shots, I mean,
1:01:46
it's to the worldly. But you're going to see
1:01:50
both guys doing that after the middle rounds.
1:01:52
You're going to see both guys starting to go
1:01:53
at it. Where I think at one point, Inoue wins
1:01:57
by knockout. And if he doesn't win by knockout,
1:02:00
if it goes to the cards, again, like what we
1:02:03
said earlier about Takuma, I don't think they're
1:02:06
going to give the win at Nakatani if it goes
1:02:08
to the cards, unless he genuinely wins. I don't
1:02:10
see Nakatani winning on the cards. I think I
1:02:11
only see really Nakatani winning by knockout.
1:02:15
And I know that sounds kind of crazy to say,
1:02:17
but again. Nakatani, when the fight doesn't go
1:02:20
his way, he mongs out completely. So if it goes
1:02:23
to the cards, they're going to give it to Inoue
1:02:24
no matter what. The only way I see Nakatani winning
1:02:27
the cards is if he knocks down Inoue a couple
1:02:29
times and wins the first couple rounds. Something
1:02:35
like that. I don't know. You could make a whole
1:02:39
bunch of cases for this fight. That's the beauty
1:02:41
of it. I got Inoue in my knockout. Probably in
1:02:45
the later half. I'm going to guess round 10.
1:02:50
Knockout round 10. Not that unreasonable of a
1:02:54
call for it to go late. It's not outlandish.
1:02:56
Yeah. It's the guys who are going Inoue in two,
1:03:00
and I'm like, if Inoue is anywhere near that
1:03:03
output in the early stages of the fight, he's
1:03:05
getting iced. 100%. I will say I believe in Junto
1:03:10
just because I believe Inoue is going to try.
1:03:14
for that output somewhere in the middle of rounds,
1:03:17
and those exchanges aren't going to work out.
1:03:20
And it's possible. It's entirely possible, too.
1:03:25
It's not like... I just think it's like people
1:03:29
who just want to see Inoue starch the other guy
1:03:32
or vice versa just don't see what makes these
1:03:36
styles clash. One thing I have seen, too, is
1:03:41
people are comparing this fight to... to Crawford
1:03:44
Spence when it's totally not like that at all.
1:03:47
No. I mean, the context behind that fight, I
1:03:50
mean, Spence, and just a summary, Spence obviously
1:03:54
was injured and then going into the fight was
1:03:56
50 -50, then Crawford had a domination. I mean,
1:03:59
yeah, that's a totally separate thing, you know,
1:04:03
but with the context, knowing what happened before
1:04:05
the fight. This fight, there's no, I mean, besides
1:04:08
Nakatani's last fight with his bludgeoned face.
1:04:12
I mean, none of them really sustained any career
1:04:15
-altering injuries. They're both at their primes.
1:04:19
They're both fantastic fighters right now. I
1:04:23
don't think that it's going to be one -sided
1:04:24
domination like what you saw with Spence and
1:04:26
Crawford. I just wanted to address that since
1:04:29
I did see that a couple times today. The counter
1:04:34
-punching aspect of Nakatani does raise some
1:04:38
questions for me because... Inoue's been put
1:04:45
down by left hands. He has trouble with lefties.
1:04:48
It's always been the case. I think Fulton is
1:04:51
the only one he didn't struggle with. No, that's
1:04:54
because Fulton decided to try and stand and trade
1:04:56
and not... Not box. Jab with not box with him.
1:05:01
And even then, that's just because Inoue put
1:05:03
pressure early and often, but if Inoue has that
1:05:06
level of output with Nakatani, it's different.
1:05:09
Yeah, and Nakatani does have considerable power
1:05:12
as well. I'm surprised that Inoue's been, had
1:05:19
his chin tested twice. I don't know, I would
1:05:24
say that he passed. So I wouldn't say that he's
1:05:28
going to get iced, but I think he could get in
1:05:31
trouble, get in really serious trouble pretty
1:05:33
early if he does try to swarm on. Junto. That's
1:05:39
just a... That's asking for a counterpunch. Oh,
1:05:43
man. Anything more for the big one? Nope. Just
1:05:49
excited, and I will be up for that. Leo, give
1:05:52
us your opinion, dude. Yeah, what's your take,
1:05:55
Leo? Honestly, I'm leaning towards Inoue. He's
1:06:01
seen... I think he's seen a broader array of
1:06:06
styles. compared to junto so i think he's i think
1:06:10
he's more adaptable even though like adaptation
1:06:13
is like the key fucking ingredient to being a
1:06:16
counter puncher but nonetheless i think that
1:06:19
in a way has i think he has the right tools i
1:06:23
don't think it's going to be a knockout though
1:06:24
just to sum it up that's about where i'm at the
1:06:31
the left -handedness does give me some cause
1:06:35
for concern like i had said Nakatani's got decent
1:06:39
strength or decent power and in a way can get
1:06:44
touched by a left hand, a straight left. And
1:06:48
it happens when he gets a little bit too eager.
1:06:51
So, yeah, he's going to have to play it cautious
1:06:55
or else Nakatani will probably put him on his
1:06:59
face. Oh, yeah. For this fight and the Benavidez
1:07:04
fight as well, I convinced my girlfriend and
1:07:06
my dad to watch this fight with me at 4 a .m.
1:07:11
Hell yeah. It's going to be a tired but fun affair,
1:07:16
I'll tell you that. Again, we've been looking
1:07:19
forward to this fight for years, ever since freaking
1:07:22
Nakatani started blowing up on the scene. Mrs.
1:07:32
Goodman is going to be watching with you at 4
1:07:34
a .m.? Yeah, I'm kind of forcing her. Not forcing
1:07:39
her, but like... Soon to be Miss Goodman, I guess.
1:07:44
I'm not forcing her. I'm not forcing her. But
1:07:47
it's a deal we made. If she watches this fight
1:07:49
with me at 4 a .m., I'm going to watch... I have
1:07:55
to watch you to rivalry. That's not even that
1:07:57
bad. That's not that bad. From what I hear, it's
1:08:00
a good show. No, it's a good show, but... It's
1:08:03
not even bad. Like, I was like, there's worse
1:08:05
things. It's a good show, I heard, but the thing
1:08:09
is, you know, there's better shows I could watch.
1:08:13
Yeah, and there's worse fights you could make
1:08:15
her watch, so... Yeah, exactly. And I think it's
1:08:18
a very fair deal. Yeah. Yeah, that's not a bad
1:08:22
one. It's not a bad deal to make. Oh, no, she
1:08:25
has to watch, like, a fucking banger, and, ooh,
1:08:28
oh, no, you have to watch... You have to watch
1:08:30
a solid TV series. I mean, yeah. No, yeah. I
1:08:35
think as long as it's good, you know. I just
1:08:38
know some of the stuff in the show. It would
1:08:43
be interesting to watch with her. Because she
1:08:45
wants me to watch it with her, too. I'm cool
1:08:49
with watching it. Just, you know, what if I...
1:08:57
I just don't get something in you. Shouldn't
1:09:05
be Ms. Goodman for several, for more than one
1:09:07
reason. No, I just cause like, you know, watching
1:09:15
stuff with like, uh, with, uh, intimate scenes
1:09:18
with my girlfriend can be, can be interesting
1:09:21
sometimes. We watched Marty Supreme in theaters
1:09:27
and that was pretty funny. All right. Anything
1:09:29
more for the Tokyo Super Bowl? No. All right.
1:09:35
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I wanted to go through with you guys as we head
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on out the door. So the first one, what would
1:12:58
a modern world boxing super series look like?
1:13:01
And the only rule is that every title list has
1:13:03
to be enrolled. A modern one, they would 160
1:13:08
and 147 are on. No, because the guys are at 147
1:13:12
now. 140 and 160 are definitely weight classes
1:13:16
that are doable. Just because I'm thinking of
1:13:21
the context of the World Boxing Super Series
1:13:23
where they got low money, low profile weight
1:13:27
classes. So if you pick 140, you got Shakur Stevenson,
1:13:34
Dalton Smith, Richardson Hitchens is vacant,
1:13:41
and then Gary on Russell. Let's assume it's Hitchens
1:13:44
still. Yeah, it's still Hitchens. Let's say it's
1:13:47
Lindolfo. Let's say it's Lindolfo at this point.
1:13:49
But, like, you get the main concept. Like, 160,
1:13:52
similar thing, where it's guys that don't command
1:13:55
that enormous profile. I would also like to add
1:14:02
130 as well. 130, yeah, that's a good one. Cruiserweight
1:14:09
would be overdone because, like, there's no one
1:14:11
good enough, really. You're never going to see
1:14:16
heavyweight. You're not going to see. No, like,
1:14:18
Cruiserweight was just special the first time
1:14:20
they did it because you had Gassiev, Prime Bredis,
1:14:23
Usyk, Prime Dorticos. And a lot of hella punchers.
1:14:29
And, like, Glowacki, Marco Huck, who were still
1:14:32
pretty competent. Honestly, I would like to make
1:14:36
a shout. If Canelo retires, then 168. That's
1:14:42
true, actually. I was going to say 168 only because
1:14:45
Canelo's there, but if you get him out of the
1:14:47
picture, that's a really good one because you
1:14:50
get Lester Martinez against a bunch of very competent
1:14:54
roster. Mbili and Lester for WBC. We'll assume
1:15:03
that Shiraz wins his fight for the vacant WBO.
1:15:07
Iglesias, IBF, he's going to fucking run the
1:15:09
bracket no matter what. Actually, 168 might be
1:15:14
the closest to that group of cruiserweights.
1:15:17
Oh, yeah. Because you have Iglesias and Martinez
1:15:21
are in there as your obvious frontrunners. You
1:15:29
have Mbili, Munguia, whatever as your competent
1:15:33
title holders at the very least. It's going to
1:15:37
be like the Super 6 all over again. I would have
1:15:39
brought... I would bring Adamas up into it. He's...
1:15:43
Yeah, he moved up. I would have... Yeah, I was
1:15:45
going to say Adamas is a good one. Jakub Bank.
1:15:52
Jakub Bank, too. That's what I mean. 168 would
1:15:54
be closest to that, like, cruiserweight one.
1:15:59
Yeah, I was going to say, like, the 118 one,
1:16:01
the final was fantastic with Donair and Inouye,
1:16:04
but, like... Donair basically had two, like,
1:16:08
meme knockouts and an injury to get there. He
1:16:13
still gave Inouye one of his hardest fights,
1:16:15
though. Yeah, I'm just saying Donair, like, no,
1:16:17
but I'm looking at the tournament as a whole.
1:16:19
Like, the Cruiserweight one, the first edition,
1:16:21
was, like, gangbusters start to finish. The second
1:16:27
one was just Electric Boogaloo. Yeah, the...
1:16:30
The 118 one wasn't that exciting. Basically all
1:16:34
the losers from the first one, but washed up.
1:16:37
Yeah. I'm surprised they haven't done a World
1:16:42
of Boxing Super Series in a while. Obviously,
1:16:44
I know why. COVID. Actually being able to get
1:16:48
all the titles and get enough champions to participate.
1:16:54
Why you gotta pick a non -glamour? There's like
1:17:00
a very thin balance. Like you need a non -glamour
1:17:03
division with guys who are extremely either talented
1:17:07
or at the very least competent who haven't already
1:17:10
fought each other because that happens in like
1:17:12
the smaller non -glamour divisions. I mean, one
1:17:16
thing about it too is that you also got to get
1:17:18
divisions where it's also not riddled with a
1:17:19
bunch of promotional companies. That's what I'm
1:17:22
saying. But that's why you pick low -profile
1:17:27
guys who are just skilled. Because the thing
1:17:29
is that if the money's there, the promotional
1:17:31
companies won't care. They get a cut, then they
1:17:34
don't have to promote it. Yeah. They just promote
1:17:37
their guy. Just post on social media, good luck,
1:17:40
so -and -so, as you fuck off and fight over there.
1:17:43
Which is what happened with that cruiserweight
1:17:47
one and the 140 -12. Top rank slash Queensbury
1:17:52
just got to go. Good luck, Josh Taylor. Hmm.
1:17:57
Well, they fought Regis Progray and freaking
1:18:01
Jose. No, that was the second one. They did two
1:18:05
of them. I forgot. Oh, yeah. Shit. Misremembering.
1:18:11
So. The first ones were Cruiser and Super Middle.
1:18:15
And then Cruiser 140 and 118. I think. But, yeah.
1:18:24
I think the ones that we landed on when I did
1:18:27
this with Shanada was 168. Take Canelo out. Just
1:18:33
swap Adamas for Canelo and you basically have
1:18:36
it. This is a little bit of an easier one, I
1:18:42
think. But you can only pick three. Ali's jab.
1:18:48
Wilder's power, Lomachenko's footwork, Floyd's
1:18:52
defense, Canelo's head movement, Usyk's IQ. Okay,
1:18:59
I'll go first. Can you say it one more time?
1:19:02
It's in the outline. The one I landed on, I went
1:19:08
with Wilder's power, Floyd's defense, and Usyk's
1:19:12
IQ. Usyk's IQ is mandatory. Gotta be. I'm going
1:19:19
Wilder's power and Ali's jab because you really
1:19:24
don't... The defense and footwork are incredibly
1:19:29
specific. I assume with the IQ, there's some
1:19:32
level of defensive IQ. So we're basically just
1:19:39
giving Usyk a blinding jab and Wilder's power.
1:19:47
Does IQ include accuracy? I think instead of
1:19:54
having to pick, like, specifically for accuracy,
1:19:58
it's like you get a B in all of them instead
1:20:01
of getting, like, an S or an A+. Okay, okay.
1:20:08
Yeah, I agree with Leo on this one. If speed
1:20:11
was an option, I would replace speed with power.
1:20:14
Yeah. The one that we thought, Shanada and I,
1:20:20
I mean, we didn't think that the Canelo's head
1:20:22
movement, that's kind of like the odd one that
1:20:25
doesn't really belong. Lomachenko's footwork,
1:20:28
too, just because I'm like, if you have the IQ,
1:20:30
you don't need the... You don't need to be a
1:20:33
ballerina? If you have Usyk's functional footwork,
1:20:37
you don't need Lomachenko's ballerina footwork.
1:20:42
It wasn't beautiful, though. It was just like
1:20:45
function versus... I mean, look at the careers
1:20:48
they had. Yeah. Just as the plain example of
1:20:52
what you'd rather have. No, I 100 % agree with
1:20:56
you. A buddy of mine, he went with Ali's jab,
1:21:01
Wilder's power, and U6 IQ. It seems like the
1:21:04
power and IQ are the staples. I'm just like,
1:21:08
Ali's jab with the IQ and Wilder's power is just...
1:21:14
You're basically just... You have the peak IQ
1:21:17
and you're just adding to it instead of taking
1:21:19
away from it, potentially. Yeah. Now give me
1:21:25
Larry Holmes' jab and Big George's power with
1:21:29
U6 IQ. You would have a fun time, I'll tell you
1:21:34
that. Disgusting. That would be disgusting. Last
1:21:42
thing. As we head out, I got some stuff, some
1:21:46
news on the amateurs. We said we were going to
1:21:49
start paying more attention, so here we go. The
1:21:52
World Boxing Cup Stage 1. This one took place
1:21:56
in Brazil. Just wrapped up. Team USA got three
1:22:01
medals. Salim Elisbe got silver. Noel Haro got
1:22:06
bronze. Simona Winkler got bronze. That's at
1:22:10
60, 51, and 70. kilograms. I don't know what
1:22:16
that is in freedom units. And Team Canada got
1:22:19
three bronze. I'm not sure how to pronounce these.
1:22:22
Keoma Al -Ahmadi, I think it is. Gabriel Ali
1:22:27
Labor? Labrie? Labrie. I'm going with that. And
1:22:33
Joshua Ofori. I have the full medal list if you
1:22:42
guys want to check. A lot of Uzbek and Brazilian
1:22:47
fighters actually got a lot of the gold. Maybe
1:22:52
there's some home cooking on the judges' parts.
1:22:58
Stage 2 will be in June in China, so keep it
1:23:04
locked and we'll keep you updated. All right.
1:23:09
So we're heading into the weekend of weekends.
1:23:13
Parting words. Man, y 'all better be up at 5
1:23:18
a .m. Oh, we will. We will. Not just you guys,
1:23:24
the listeners. I know one person that's not going
1:23:28
to be up, and I'm going to torture him for that.
1:23:30
It's Isaac. I'm sorry, Isaac. I'm putting your
1:23:34
ass on the hook. Why not? Why won't he be up?
1:23:38
He's going to be too tired. Lame. What, from
1:23:41
eating? I don't know, dude. Get some five -hour
1:23:46
energy with your DoorDash order, dog. All you
1:23:49
got to do is wake up for one hour and just go
1:23:51
to bed immediately afterwards. That's it. This
1:23:54
is one of those ones where I'm getting Waffle
1:23:59
House just because they're open 24 hours. I might
1:24:04
just go to a fucking norm or something, dude.
1:24:08
Well, that's it for this edition of the Boxing
1:24:11
B -Sides. We will see you on the other side of
1:24:14
Inoue Nakatani. How do you want to convince them
1:24:29
to watch MMA instead? Or not instead, but just
1:24:33
to start watching MMA. I'm going to go a different
1:24:37
route than Nathan went. I'm going to go with,
1:24:39
first of all, I think MMA has more frequent watchable
1:24:45
events. There's some weeks in boxing where it's
1:24:48
either super degenerate or no names, whatever.
1:24:52
I think in the UFC, it's slightly better at times.
1:24:56
And then the big, big point, it's just more hectic.
1:24:59
I think MMA at times is just more hectic. You're
1:25:03
seeing stuff from street fights all the way to,
1:25:05
like, movie -type fights. You know, you got roundhouse
1:25:09
kicks, straight -up, like, bar fights at times.
1:25:13
You get a wider range of enjoyable fights, I
1:25:17
would say. And then just, like, I don't know,
1:25:22
it's more enjoyable. The fact that at times you
1:25:25
get to see just guys, like, standing and banging,
1:25:28
it's just more primal, in a way, is what I'd
1:25:31
say. That's how I would try to convince boxing
1:25:34
-only fans. If you enjoy chaos, we saw it in
1:25:39
the Wild Riches or fight. If you enjoy that type
1:25:41
of chaos, because that wasn't exactly a bunch
1:25:44
of technique in that fight, but if you enjoyed
1:25:46
something like that, I would definitely try out
1:25:49
MMA. Just because at times there is high -level
1:25:54
things, and that is incredible to watch. People
1:25:57
like Mauricio Hufi, you're seeing incredible
1:25:59
knockouts with kicks. But even like the lower
1:26:04
level stuff can be enjoyable with people just
1:26:07
going to town on each other, you know, standing
1:26:09
and banging. That'd probably be the driving point
1:26:12
that I would say to boxing only fans is that
1:26:15
if you enjoy that chaos, I would say definitely
1:26:19
give MMA a try. If you like chaos, I like that.
1:26:23
If you do decide to give MMA a shot, well, you
1:26:26
can check out Ultimate FN Casuals. You can hear
1:26:28
us chat about all the fights that happen every
1:26:31
weekend, just like on the boxing side.