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- 0:25Hello, hello, and welcome back to another episode of Aligned
- 0:28and Thriving for Teachers. I am still Mel, and it's lovely
- 0:33to have you here and I'm sure you're absolutely appreciating
- 0:36me in your ears today. This episode, I'm really, I know
- 0:42I'm excited to bring this one to you because it's something that
- 0:45I've been trying to address. I think through lots of my reels
- 0:49and posts and things on Instagram.
- 0:51If you haven't seen them, please make sure you go and check out
- 0:54Aligned and Thriving for Teachers on Insta and on
- 0:56Facebook, because I do share lots of tips and tricks over
- 1:00there that I may not actually talk about on the podcast.
- 1:03There's just all those little quick things.
- 1:05So make sure you go and check those out.
- 1:07But today's episode is, it's sort of stemmed from lots of
- 1:11stuff that I've been reading lately when I've been doing
- 1:13research around what I wanted to talk about.
- 1:16So apparently these are like, well, I'm going to compress
- 1:21them, but there's about 20 reasons why why teachers are
- 1:24currently leaving the profession.
- 1:27And I want to put my spin on it. So I may not give you all 20,
- 1:30but I'm going to give you my, my take.
- 1:33So. And honestly, look, most of them
- 1:36aren't the real reason because I don't think it's just one thing.
- 1:41It's not just the workload, it's not just the behaviour, it's not
- 1:46just the admin. I think it's a build up of just
- 1:50everything over time. And if you're in it right now,
- 1:55you feel that you get it. So let's start #1 the overload
- 2:01problem. Let's start with an obvious one.
- 2:05This one everyone talks about. It's the workload, the admin,
- 2:09the reporting, the extra expectations.
- 2:13Yes, this is 100% real. And it's not just that we're
- 2:17busy, it's that it, it never ends.
- 2:21It just actually seems to keep getting bigger and bigger and we
- 2:25don't have any extra time. It just keeps piling up.
- 2:29Since I started teaching, the amount of admin that I have to
- 2:32do, it's nearly tripled. Actually.
- 2:34I would say 100% tripled. No one's gone.
- 2:38Oh, we'll give you some extra time to to match that.
- 2:41Yes, we probably had some pockets here and there.
- 2:44It is nowhere near enough. If you're expecting us to record
- 2:47all of this stuff, when are we actually doing that?
- 2:51Unless it's in our own time that we're not actually getting paid
- 2:55for to do. Yes, I know reporting has
- 2:59changed and it may look different now.
- 3:01I know in the state that I work in, we don't write comments
- 3:04anymore. We have evidence of learning.
- 3:06So yes, we're not writing long comments, but now we're
- 3:10collecting work samples and uploading evidence and ticking
- 3:12boxes. And honestly, I don't actually
- 3:15think that's easier. I think it's just a different
- 3:18type of work and it's just constant.
- 3:22And look, as a parent who is married to the the, I don't know
- 3:30what to say. Being polite.
- 3:32He was a naughty boy at school. OK, so he's not, he's not
- 3:36academic in that way. He is other way smart.
- 3:40That's a great way to put it. So I give stuff to my husband
- 3:44because I'm like, I already know what this means.
- 3:46What do you think it means? And so I'll give him a work
- 3:48sample. And he's just like, Oh yeah,
- 3:50looks at the rubric and looks at the top bit that says what Mark
- 3:53they got. That's all he reads.
- 3:55And I was like, so do you read anything else about how to move
- 3:57them forward or how to do this? He's like, nice to be words.
- 4:02What if we had comments, darling?
- 4:03He's like, yeah, I loved it when they had comments because I
- 4:05could, like, read it. And then you had to guess
- 4:07between the lines of what they actually were talking about.
- 4:09It was fun. And then I actually knew that
- 4:11they they knew my kid. I was like, yeah, yeah.
- 4:15And he goes, I know it was a lot of work for you because he saw
- 4:17the other side. He saw me having to do the work
- 4:19and to write the comments and do the thing.
- 4:22But he's like, I think he got more of an insight into the
- 4:25actual child and the fact that you as the parent were like,
- 4:27yeah, you know, my kid, you've got this.
- 4:30And that's the part that I think, I know that we're trying
- 4:33to make it easier, but I think it just looks different.
- 4:36It looks different. And I'm not the biggest fan.
- 4:39You can come at me if you like. But I didn't choose it.
- 4:42I didn't make the decision. I actually enjoyed writing
- 4:45comments. So yeah, that's just me.
- 4:48And that was one way of them trying to reduce a load when not
- 4:52really sure. But yeah, there's always
- 4:56something else that we sort of could be doing.
- 4:58But anyway #2 the mental load that no one sees, that's a big
- 5:05one. This is the one that really gets
- 5:09to you because it's the emotional labour.
- 5:13It's thinking about student well being, the behaviours, the
- 5:18parent expectations. This job doesn't just take your
- 5:23time, it takes your brain and all of the things like with it.
- 5:30So you're constantly thinking, did I handle that right?
- 5:34Should I have said something differently?
- 5:36What's going on for that student because they didn't have lunch
- 5:39today and that's not normal. So then you're questioning
- 5:41things and then you add in your your actual life outside of
- 5:45school. If you're a parent, you're a
- 5:47partner, you're a friend, you're holding both of those worlds in
- 5:51your head at once. And I know for me, my brain just
- 5:55doesn't switch from teacher to home life instantly.
- 5:57I've had to train it to do that. I've got school thoughts and
- 6:01family thoughts and life admin thoughts and Oh my gosh, did I
- 6:04shave my legs this morning Thoughts.
- 6:06Like I have that many tabs open in my brain that sometimes it
- 6:10gets really confusing. And so I've then had to train
- 6:13myself to have these strategies when I look at other people in
- 6:17other workplaces, like say you're working at a Cafe and
- 6:20you're a worker, you're not a manager, you're not anything
- 6:22else and you've gone and you've made your amazing coffees.
- 6:25Like, I'm just going to talk about my barista because they're
- 6:27amazing, but they've made my coffee and they love the fact
- 6:30that they get to leave and just go home because it's not like
- 6:34the coffee's going to come back. Like, I don't know, yeah, you
- 6:38might get a complaint from someone, but they can only
- 6:41complain when the stores open. Like this is the thing we are,
- 6:45we are constantly on and we don't get that opportunity
- 6:49unless we train ourselves to actually switch off and put
- 6:52those boundaries in place. It's a lot harder for us to
- 6:55actually do that. And some people, if they don't
- 6:57learn how to do that, that's what starts to lead them in the
- 7:00direction of maybe I shouldn't be teaching because this is
- 7:03hard. So that's a reason #3 the
- 7:09system. Oh yeah.
- 7:10This one's hard to talk about, but it matters.
- 7:15I can't control it, but it leads to things like a lack of
- 7:20support. I'm just going to say the word
- 7:23because I am one. But leadership, policy changes,
- 7:27and a lack of autonomy. Like you can be an amazing
- 7:32teacher and still feel like you're failing in this system
- 7:36because a lot of the time the system is built by people who
- 7:40are not currently in classrooms or maybe had anything to do with
- 7:44education. So when policies change, they
- 7:47don't always get it. They just like change it and
- 7:49they're like, woo, go us. We've made this amazing change
- 7:52to this policy and teachers are going to love it because they're
- 7:55going to do XYZ. And we're like, did you actually
- 7:57talk to a teacher about that? Because seriously, you have no
- 8:01idea. And they don't, they don't get
- 8:04it. Maybe one day, Oh, maybe I
- 8:07should get into politics. Oh no, no, no, no.
- 8:09But anyway, maybe one day they might get somewhere where it
- 8:13actually works for a positive. So, but on the flip side, let's
- 8:17let's talk about leadership. So you might work in a school
- 8:20where leadership genuinely tries to support you and that matters.
- 8:26But I can also say this, like I've worked in both, I've worked
- 8:30in really supportive leadership, leadership situations and in
- 8:36schools where there was a real lack of leadership.
- 8:38And that was really hard. And it does make your job hard.
- 8:42And my advice to you in that situation is to seek advice from
- 8:46external providers. Like you've got access to
- 8:49unions, you've got access to psychologists and people like
- 8:52that who can give you advice as to what you can do for yourself
- 8:56and for your school community and all of that type of stuff.
- 8:58I've been through it all. And if you've got questions,
- 9:00seriously, just ask me. But I think having those
- 9:03experiences have actually made me a better leader because I've
- 9:07gone, I do not want to be a leader like that because that
- 9:11person did not give me support. They did not listen to me and
- 9:14they were not honest. And they, it was like face
- 9:17value. They'd tell me exactly what I
- 9:19wanted to hear, but then they'd do something completely
- 9:21different. And that's why I think I try and
- 9:24make myself a genuine leader. But you also need to check in on
- 9:30them too. That's the other thing.
- 9:33Like while we're supporting staff, we're often quietly the
- 9:38ones picking up all the extra. So we're holding things
- 9:41together. We might be burning out secretly
- 9:44in the background. That's that's the hard part.
- 9:48And I know I'm guilty of this because I would rather pick up
- 9:51the slack and cover something for someone else to save burning
- 9:55out a teacher because I know how much I can handle.
- 9:59So I will sort of push myself to the limit to support my staff.
- 10:03But then it's really nice when you've got that team mentality
- 10:07of staff where they can see that and they're like, Oh yeah, Nah,
- 10:10I'm going to step in and do that because I can see you're already
- 10:13doing XYZ. So you all support each other.
- 10:16And that's what a true team is. You're all working together.
- 10:19Like, yes, I'm on a leadership team.
- 10:21Yes, I am a leader, but I do not necessarily put myself above
- 10:25anyone else. Yes, there are some decisions
- 10:27that I get to make, but I am still a human.
- 10:30I am still myself and I still like to be a kind human being.
- 10:35And I don't Lord that over people.
- 10:37Yes, I've worked with people that do that.
- 10:39I get it. And again, I didn't want to be
- 10:41someone who was like that. But if you're in a in a
- 10:44situation where you're at a school where that happens, it
- 10:47can make your job feel a lot harder than what it needs to be.
- 10:51And that's why I say go and get yourself the extra support.
- 10:54And if you are in a situation where you've got a great
- 10:56leadership team, then check in on them too, because as I said,
- 11:00we're human. Then you get to the schools
- 11:03where there's lots of talk and there's not a lot of action.
- 11:05And that's where just frustration builds really fast
- 11:08because you just don't even know what's going on.
- 11:10And as a system, we don't really support that sort of stuff
- 11:16happening. And the system will make changes
- 11:18and then we're trying to catch up with the changes.
- 11:20And so you're constantly chasing your tail.
- 11:22We can't control that. You just control what you can
- 11:25control your circle of influence.
- 11:27That's that's my advice in relation to that one number 40,
- 11:33the identity and life sort of clash.
- 11:37This one gets most people. I feel it is the poor work life
- 11:43balance, the impact on families, the burnout and leaving for
- 11:49lifestyle. This job doesn't just affect
- 11:53your work, it affects who you are at home.
- 11:57And this is something that I have spoken about before because
- 12:00it takes years to learn and I'll be honest, I'm still learning.
- 12:06And if you don't figure out your boundaries, this is where you're
- 12:10going to run yourself straight into the ground.
- 12:12This is where teaching starts bleeding into everything.
- 12:15Your patience, your energy, your relationships.
- 12:18And this is where balance actually really matters, not in
- 12:22a, oh, that's a nice idea kind of way.
- 12:24This is this is what keeps you OK way.
- 12:30And you do not need to feel guilty about that.
- 12:32You do not need to feel guilty about that.
- 12:35OK, I've made that really clear. And if you're not sure, make
- 12:39sure you go back to previous episodes to check back in on
- 12:43what boundaries can look like and what you can do to protect
- 12:45yourself and your energy and your relationships.
- 12:48I am lived experience of what that can do to you and your
- 12:52family. I am the child of a teacher.
- 12:56I have learned a lot from watching my mum put boundaries
- 12:59in place and watching her grow over the years about what she
- 13:03has said yes and no to. And she would say the same thing
- 13:07about what she has learned and what she's had to grow through
- 13:10and from changes that she had to make because they did affect us
- 13:15as a family. And I've witnessed that from the
- 13:18from like the children's perspective.
- 13:19And I've gone, right. I'm a teacher, I'm now a mum.
- 13:24I don't want that for my kids. And my mum says the same thing.
- 13:27Make sure you're not doing that to your children because I know
- 13:28what it did to you and how it felt for you.
- 13:31So make sure you don't do that to your kids.
- 13:33I'm like, Yep, got it. So we have made it our mission
- 13:37to learn from mistakes of other people, mistakes of ourselves,
- 13:40all of that type of thing, and put those boundaries in place.
- 13:43And that's what you need to do. And this is what's causing
- 13:46teachers to actually like burnout and quit and leave
- 13:50because we're not respecting each other's boundaries.
- 13:55We're overloading. We're the, the mental load is
- 13:59there and we're not acknowledging it.
- 14:01The system is falling apart and overloading everyone, and then
- 14:05you've got one identity for that, and then that clashes with
- 14:08your actual real life and you just can't manage it all.
- 14:11So it just gets really, really hard.
- 14:12Like that's only four reasons. There's up to 20.
- 14:16There's a lot more, but what I've tried to do is like squash
- 14:18them into four sort of categories.
- 14:20Is that This is why teachers are leaving.
- 14:23This is why I know you feel the way you feel.
- 14:25I felt this way too. I've come to that point many
- 14:28times where I've gone. I don't think I can do this
- 14:30anymore. If they change this curriculum
- 14:33one more time, I am out that door.
- 14:37And yes, I've been there. But we're not leaving because of
- 14:42one thing. We're leaving because it's that
- 14:44slow build of everything. It's the constant pressure, the
- 14:48mental load, the lack of space to actually switch off.
- 14:51And over time, it just all adds up.
- 14:54So what have I done to help myself get back and bounce back
- 14:59from these types of situations? And still, I am a teacher today
- 15:02and I still love my profession and I love what I do.
- 15:06But I've had to learn that I leave on time for my kids and my
- 15:10family. I actually switch off after
- 15:14school. I choose my environments outside
- 15:17of school as to where I interact, where I go and what
- 15:20I'm comfortable with. And I protect.
- 15:23I really wanted to swim, to swear there and be like, I
- 15:25protect the bad word out of my energy, but I'm not going to do
- 15:28that today. But protecting your energy.
- 15:32But the part that people don't always want to hear is that you
- 15:36have to take responsibility for your part in it.
- 15:39It's you. You need to set yourself up for
- 15:42success from day one. You're the one who's responsible
- 15:45for your boundaries, you're the one who's responsible for your
- 15:48routines, and you're responsible for what you say yes to.
- 15:52You've got to learn that because if you don't, the job will take
- 15:57everything you give it and more. Did I make that clear?
- 16:02OK, I've given you lots of bits of information and I'm telling
- 16:07you from my experience, you're the one who has to do it.
- 16:10It is all you. I have been to many people.
- 16:14I've listened to many other teachers that have left the
- 16:16profession and as to why they've left and what they're doing now
- 16:19and all of those things. But it all comes down to you.
- 16:24And I will always back decisions that teachers have made for
- 16:28their choices. Whether that is, well, you need
- 16:31to leave that school and go to a different school.
- 16:33You need to leave that grade and try a different grade.
- 16:36You need to leave the primary system and go teach in a high
- 16:39school, whatever it may be. You're the one who's responsible
- 16:44for making that change and learning from all of those
- 16:47situations. It is you.
- 16:50So how do we fix teaching? Look, maybe the better question
- 16:54is how do I stop losing myself in it?
- 16:59Because I've been nothing but honest with you.
- 17:01But you are replaceable in your job.
- 17:06Yep, let that land. I've been told that before.
- 17:11I've been told I'm just a number.
- 17:13Yep, I've been told a lot of things.
- 17:17But I've also been told that I'm a good teacher and I've been
- 17:22told that I deserve certain things because I do a really
- 17:26good job, because I've learnt over time.
- 17:30But yes, even though we're in a teacher crisis and we can't find
- 17:34teachers, the government seemed to think that we're replaceable
- 17:38in our job. And you do need to put that in
- 17:42perspective if you're thinking about your profession and all
- 17:45those things. And I do have to tell myself
- 17:49sometimes that, yes, I am replaceable in my job, but I am
- 17:52not replaceable in my family, in my relationships, or in my own
- 17:57life. There is only one me.
- 17:58There's only one you. And that ultimately is what has
- 18:02to matter. And it matters more.
- 18:05So there's my little snippet for you today.
- 18:09Take out of it what you need. But if this hit for you, I would
- 18:13love to know which part you sort of feel is the most real for you
- 18:17right now. Because this conversation needs
- 18:19to be more than just teachers are leaving.
- 18:21It needs to be. But why?
- 18:23And what are we actually going to do about it?
- 18:26That's my little mic drop moment for you all.
- 18:30So whatever you are doing today, remember, in Case No one told
- 18:34you, you are doing an amazing job.
- 18:36You are loved and I hope you have the most amazing day,
- 18:40afternoon, morning, wherever it is, wherever it are, wherever
- 18:43you are at. It has been lovely talking with
- 18:46you all. Goodbye my loves.