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Hegseth takes War on Drugs to Puerto Rico, Astronaut Sonny Williams talks Space & Trump takes it to Chicago · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Pete Edseth. He is a Defense secretary. He has arrived
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Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico amid the US Venezuela tensions that are
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Speaker 1: continuing to rise. This is an important visit because it
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Speaker 1: was unannounced and not only was the US Defense Secretary there,
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Speaker 1: but the Joint Chiefs Chairman, General Caine also was on
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Speaker 1: the trip. It was an unannounced visit, an unplanned visit
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Speaker 1: for the public to Puerto Rico, as the US has
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Speaker 1: ramped up military activities in the Caribbean aimed at drug
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Speaker 1: trafficking networks. They met officials at the one hundred and
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Speaker 1: fifty six Wing Air National Guard Base.
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Speaker 2: Head.
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Speaker 1: Seth addressed roughly three hundred service members while he was there.
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Speaker 1: And the question you may be asking yourself is this
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Speaker 1: why now? Well, it's pretty simple. The trip follows a
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Speaker 1: September the second US military strike in the Southern Caribbean
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Speaker 1: that sank a vessel departing Venezuela, with US officials saying
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Speaker 1: eleven suspected members the trend de Ragua Cartel.
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Speaker 2: They are also a terrorist organization. We're all killed.
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Speaker 1: Some regional leaders backed the action, others urged more transparency.
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Speaker 1: Venezuela also deny the US allegations and criticized the operation,
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Speaker 1: and that's exactly what should be expected. So now the
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Speaker 1: question is why is the Pentagon weighing Puerto Rico as
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Speaker 1: a hub or is this more about expanding counternarcotis operations
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Speaker 1: all together? Now we also know that plans include deploying
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Speaker 1: ten F thirty five fighter jets the island and conducting
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Speaker 1: military flights out of Puerto Rico. An unusually large cluster
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Speaker 1: of US warships, about eight is already operating in the
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Speaker 1: region as well.
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Speaker 2: Marines are also on the island.
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Speaker 1: Elements of the twenty second Marine Unit are in Puerto
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Speaker 1: Rico for amphibious and flight training. We've been told Puerto
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Speaker 1: Rico's governor estimated at thousand marines on the island, and
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Speaker 1: the guards said as the training was pre planned and
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Speaker 1: quote not tied to the new maritime force. CBS News
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Speaker 1: had it this way on the unplanned visit and what
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Speaker 1: it could mean.
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Speaker 3: Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and Chairman of the Joint
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Speaker 3: Chiefs Dan Caine arrived in Puerto Rico this morning as
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Speaker 3: tension continues to build between the United States and Venezuela.
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Speaker 3: They were welcome there by Puerto Rico Governor Jennifer Gonzalez,
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Speaker 3: who said on in part on X, we thank President
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Speaker 3: Trump and his administration for recognizing the strategic value Puerto
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Speaker 3: Rico has to the national security of the United States
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Speaker 3: and the fight against direct cartels in our hemisphere perpetuated
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Speaker 3: by Narco dictator Nicholas Maduro. For more on this, I
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Speaker 3: want to bring in John Burns. He is the strategic
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Speaker 3: director for Concerned Veterans for America after serving more than
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Speaker 3: twenty two years in the Marine Corps and the Army
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Speaker 3: National Guard. Thank you very much for joining us. What
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Speaker 3: does this arrival here of Hexeth and Kane to Puerto
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Speaker 3: Rico's signal to you?
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Speaker 4: Well, thank you Nancy for having me on. I think
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Speaker 4: there's a lot of signals there. One of the key
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Speaker 4: takeaways for me, aside from just the situation with Venezuela
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Speaker 4: and the drug situation in the Caribbean, is the National
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Speaker 4: Defense Strategy, which a little overdue, is said to be
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Speaker 4: released within the next seven to ten days, and early
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Speaker 4: reporting indicates that there's a large pivot towards defense of
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Speaker 4: the American hemisphere and away from heavily being heavily engaged
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Speaker 4: in other parts of the world Europe. I think there's
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Speaker 4: probably still going to be an emphasis to a degree
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Speaker 4: on the Indo Pacific, maybe not as much as we thought,
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Speaker 4: but this is the key role that our Department of Defense,
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Speaker 4: Department of War should be playing. Our primary interest is
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Speaker 4: securing our hemisphere and our homeland.
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Speaker 5: John.
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Speaker 3: Of course, this arrival, this trip comes with the backdrop
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Speaker 3: of the United States to point eight warships and fighter
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Speaker 3: jets into that area, in addition to a massing troops
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Speaker 3: off Puerto Rico. If this is a war on drugs,
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Speaker 3: what kind of guardrails, if any, exists for the president
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Speaker 3: to send troops into Venezuela.
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Speaker 4: Well, the President has said that he doesn't want to
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Speaker 4: sit or he's not considering this a regime change mission,
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Speaker 4: which I think was very very encouraging.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 1: As much as the media tries to lie to you
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Speaker 1: and tell you that the president's going for regime change,
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Speaker 1: that is not what this is about at all. This
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Speaker 1: is all about fighting narco terrorism. And yes, they are
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Speaker 1: terrorists that are killing Americans. So you may ask yourself
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Speaker 1: this question, why Puerto Rico, Why would you choose this
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Speaker 1: for this counter cartel operation. Well, it's pretty simple geography.
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Speaker 1: Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Island sit inside the
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Speaker 1: Caribbean Transit Zone, historically a gateway for cocaine, fetnol and
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Speaker 1: other drugs headed to the mainland USA. That strategic position
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Speaker 1: plus US sovereignty eases the basing, the logistics, and also
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Speaker 1: the prosecutions of those that are caught alive. And then
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Speaker 1: you just have access and response times from a military standpoint.
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Speaker 1: From Puerto Rico, aircraft and ships can quickly reach the
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Speaker 1: Mona Passage, the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico Corridor, and the
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Speaker 1: sea lanes north of Venezuela, improving time to intercept for
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Speaker 1: go fast boats and motherships. This builds on the intricacies
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Speaker 1: and the model that has been used by the Coast
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Speaker 1: Guard there for years as well. What is this all
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Speaker 1: really about. It's about setting a clear message at the
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Speaker 1: present is going on offense that the literal war on
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Speaker 1: cartels has just begun. And this is part of where
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Speaker 1: Puerto Rico also comes in. You have additional air and
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Speaker 1: maritime assets in Puerto Rico. This will help with surveillance
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Speaker 1: and interaction coverage over the choke points where trafckers are
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Speaker 1: most vulnerable at sea. The coastguards layered approach, as it
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Speaker 1: was described by the White House, will have large cutters,
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Speaker 1: aircraft and partner forces and all the benefits of the
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Speaker 1: DoD platforms and their increased presence combined. So it's pretty simple.
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Speaker 1: The President United States of America is saying, we are
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Speaker 1: going all in and we're going to do this with
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Speaker 1: all of the technology and the forces that America has. Now,
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Speaker 1: the other question is what's going to happen next. What
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Speaker 1: should you be looking for? Well, let me go through
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Speaker 1: that for you, because there's one big aspect of this
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Speaker 1: it's going to matter a lot, and that is whether
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Speaker 1: the F thirty five deployment is confirmed and then where
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Speaker 1: are they based. This is going to have a huge
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Speaker 1: impact on the assets that are tied to whatever the
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Speaker 1: mission is has been declared or set by the administration. Yes,
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Speaker 1: there are questions that are being asked by the left
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Speaker 1: about congressional oversight of legal authorities and targeting rules for
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Speaker 1: future strikes, but the President United States of America feels
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Speaker 1: like he is on strong legal footing because he has
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Speaker 1: declared them terrorists organizations. And then there's the integration with
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Speaker 1: the Coast Guard and also the Navy ships. The regional
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Speaker 1: cooperation levels between these two organizations will clearly be noticeable overall. Now,
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Speaker 1: if you look at what the President has said, the
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Speaker 1: President has said, it is very possible that we will
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Speaker 1: be hitting terras wherever they are. Does that mean we
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Speaker 1: can be hitting terris in Venezuela, Yes, there is a
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Speaker 1: chance of that. Is this about regime change. No, The
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Speaker 1: same thing can go for Mexico. As the President made
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Speaker 1: it clear last week, that we have an obligation and
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Speaker 1: a moral duty to make sure that Americans are not
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Speaker 1: being killed with the fetnyl and other drugs coming across
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Speaker 1: our southern border. So this is the President paying off
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Speaker 1: on a campaign promise. It's also clearly the beginning of
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Speaker 1: the war, not the end of the war for the
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Speaker 1: president of the United States of America. When it comes
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Speaker 1: to the cartels, the presidents said that they are a
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Speaker 1: very very dangerous organization and we must stop them.
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Speaker 2: Uh, and today is one of those days.
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Speaker 1: Sunny Williams is a name you may not remember as
10:31
Speaker 1: I say it, but when I remind you of who
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Speaker 1: Sonny is, You're gonna be like, oh, yeah, how would
10:37
Speaker 1: you like to be in the US Navy? Be a captain,
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Speaker 1: then retire and then be like all right, I'm not done.
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna like, you know, become a NASA astronaut.
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Speaker 1: That is exactly what happened to Sunny Williams. And you
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Speaker 1: may remember she just spent a really long time in
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Speaker 1: out of space, like twice as long as she was
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Speaker 1: supposed to be there. Sonny, I appreciate you coming on,
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Speaker 1: and there is so much to talk about. I gotta
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Speaker 1: ask you first, though, when you were in space mentally
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Speaker 1: in this last trip, you had a mindset, Hey, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to be there. I think it was what four
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Speaker 1: to five months?
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Speaker 2: Is that right?
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Speaker 7: Actually, when we first launched space, we're telling us it
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Speaker 7: will be eight to ten days, but we knew we'd
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Speaker 7: be there for a couple months, but didn't really anticipate
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Speaker 7: nine months.
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Speaker 1: So what is it like to recalibrate in your mind
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Speaker 1: like you've you've done training. I don't know if there's
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Speaker 1: any training that can prepare you for eight or nine
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Speaker 1: days turning into a couple of weeks, maybe a couple months,
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Speaker 1: and then like, oh, yeah, it's going to be the
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Speaker 1: majority of a year.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Ben, it's a great question, and you know, hopefully
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Speaker 7: you know. Butch and I have provided a little bit
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Speaker 7: of a roadmap for other astronauts as well as Frank Rubio,
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Speaker 7: who before us actually spent an unexpected year in space,
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Speaker 7: translating from six months. So I think it's just a
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Speaker 7: matter of, you know, a mindset change. Okay, you know,
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Speaker 7: this is what we trained for us, what we have
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Speaker 7: you know, done in the past in our time here
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Speaker 7: at NASA, and we can continue on.
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Speaker 8: Now.
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Speaker 7: I'm not going to say all my clothes were there
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Speaker 7: and I had to borrow a couple pairs of shorts
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Speaker 7: from a friend. But that's what we do. We help
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Speaker 7: each other out when we're up there, and they were
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Speaker 7: the folks on Crew eight were gracious enough to give
12:13
Speaker 7: us some of the really goodies of the food to
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Speaker 7: make our stay great. And you know, that's what we do,
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Speaker 7: we work together.
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Speaker 2: How many people were up there when you're there for
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Speaker 2: that nine months?
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Speaker 7: Oh so it gets confusing, So I'm going to have
12:25
Speaker 7: to think about it for a second. So when we
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Speaker 7: were up there, when we first got there, there was
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Speaker 7: three soy US crew members and four SpaceX Dragon members,
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Speaker 7: so seven, eight, nine, nine of us all together. Then
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Speaker 7: we had at one point in time a second SOYUZ up,
12:39
Speaker 7: so that was twelve and then they left and so
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Speaker 7: that was nine again. And then then we had another
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Speaker 7: dragon come up with two, so that was back down
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Speaker 7: to oh gosh, now I'm getting confused, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, eleven.
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Speaker 7: So it was it was a little bit of a
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Speaker 7: revolving door, which is great because you see new crew
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Speaker 7: members periodically as these spacecraft trains out. But it was
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Speaker 7: a little bit sad to see people who you thought
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Speaker 7: you'd be on the ground first them leave and then
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Speaker 7: us leave later. So not necessarily sad, I shouldn't say
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Speaker 7: it that way. It was just a little bit different
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Speaker 7: plan than we had originally anticipated.
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Speaker 1: So when you think about the plan and you're like,
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Speaker 1: all right, I'm seeing people that are now coming and going.
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Speaker 1: There was a lot of politics involved back on Earth
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Speaker 1: of who's supposed to pick you up? And then there's
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Speaker 1: contingency plans of like who's going to come in essence
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Speaker 1: rescue you guys. But you're seeing others leave. How hard
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Speaker 1: was it mentally to just stay locked in in that
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Speaker 1: scenario because I'm assuming you didn't want to get involved
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Speaker 1: in the in the politics, But the reality is when
13:42
Speaker 1: I if I sell someone leave, dude, I really want
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Speaker 1: to be on that I want to get out of here.
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Speaker 7: So you know, there's there's a couple aspects of that.
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Speaker 7: You know, there was a lot of really cool things
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Speaker 7: that are going on in the space station. So for me,
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Speaker 7: I honestly didn't mind being up there for an extended duration,
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Speaker 7: like a normal duration, long duration mission, because there's all
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Speaker 7: sorts of cool science to do. There's fun maintenance to do,
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Speaker 7: I like, you know, using tools, and there's you know,
14:06
Speaker 7: spacewalks occurred also while we're up there, so all that's
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Speaker 7: pretty great. So having those opportunities was fine. Absolutely didn't
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Speaker 7: want to get in the politics of it all, but
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Speaker 7: absolutely wanted a good ride home. You know, we were
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Speaker 7: up there with Starliner for a while as our lifeboat,
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Speaker 7: and it's you know, obviously we all know now that
14:26
Speaker 7: you know, the thrusters weren't working as advertised, and you know,
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Speaker 7: if you're not one hundred percent sure if that's the
14:33
Speaker 7: you know that everything was going to work, why risk
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Speaker 7: your life coming home in that when you potentially have
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Speaker 7: another ride. I think another you know, compromised way to
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Speaker 7: get home beside for Starliner was on Dragon initially because
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Speaker 7: we didn't have dedicated seats. I think the happiest day
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Speaker 7: of my time up there was when Crew nine showed
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Speaker 7: up with two empty seats and two dedicated space suits
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Speaker 7: for us, and then we knew we really had the
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Speaker 7: right combination to get home in an emergency, because you know,
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Speaker 7: these spacecraft are our lifeboat in case anything happens to
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Speaker 7: the International Space Station. So you know, that day was great.
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Speaker 7: So you know, I was happy to wait for a
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Speaker 7: proper seat to re enter into the atmosphere. It's no joke.
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Speaker 7: When you're coming into the atmosphere and you know around
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Speaker 7: the capsules, you know, thousands of degrees, you want to
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Speaker 7: make sure that you're in the right place at the
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Speaker 7: right time and have the right ride home.
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Speaker 2: What was the toll on your body?
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Speaker 1: I mean, nine months in outer space with weightlessness, I'm
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Speaker 1: assuming that was really weird when you got back to
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Speaker 1: Earth having to try to figure out just how to
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Speaker 1: walk and get out of everything and get back to normal.
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Speaker 2: How long did that take?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, you know, you know, Butch and I are both
15:39
Speaker 7: we like working out. We see each other in the
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Speaker 7: gym in the morning, and we both hit it hard
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Speaker 7: when we got there, even knowing we are only potentially
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Speaker 7: only gonna be there for you know, a week or so.
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Speaker 7: We got special permission to use the exercise equipment. Generally,
15:52
Speaker 7: when people aren't there for a short amount of time,
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Speaker 7: they don't use the equipment, and we jumped on it
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Speaker 7: the first day we were there, and we were pretty
15:59
Speaker 7: dead the whole time through to make sure we were
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Speaker 7: in as good as shape as possible. But you're right,
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Speaker 7: it does take a toll. Nine months is a long
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Speaker 7: time to make sure your bone density, your muscle mass days. Intact,
16:11
Speaker 7: we needed to work out every single day getting back.
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Speaker 7: You know, it's the big muscles are fine because we
16:17
Speaker 7: worked out. It's all the little small muscles like the
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Speaker 7: one that holds your heads up right, the one that
16:22
Speaker 7: allows you to balance on one foot that we really
16:24
Speaker 7: needed to re engage with that agility and flexibility and
16:28
Speaker 7: just getting back some of the stamina that we probably
16:31
Speaker 7: you know that we both have lost while we were
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Speaker 7: up there. So you know, it's about a thirty day
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Speaker 7: to forty five day process. And still working on my
16:38
Speaker 7: fast twitch muscles. I'm a little bit slow. Absolutely not
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Speaker 7: contributing that to age, only to space flight.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's incredible. Let's talk about what's really cool.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: There is an initiative to go back to the Moon.
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Speaker 1: Part of this, I think is going to inspire especially
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Speaker 1: young people, that this is something that we can do.
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Speaker 1: It's obtainable. Why has it taking us so long? And
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Speaker 1: when is this plan to actually go back to the Moon.
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Speaker 8: Yeah?
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, this is really exciting times. You know, I think
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Speaker 7: what was great was we've had the International Space Station
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Speaker 7: to try out a whole bunch of processes to understand
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Speaker 7: what happens to people when they're in space for a
17:17
Speaker 7: long duration, so we can get ready to go back
17:19
Speaker 7: to the Moon smarter and you know, in a more
17:23
Speaker 7: safe way. So we are actually doing some more challenging
17:26
Speaker 7: things by going to the poll on, going to the
17:29
Speaker 7: south pole of the Moon. That's our landing spot where
17:31
Speaker 7: we want to go just for you know, resources sunlight
17:36
Speaker 7: while we're while we're there, and maybe build a station
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Speaker 7: like we built in space. So we've used you know,
17:40
Speaker 7: the space station, Internet space Station as a testing ground
17:44
Speaker 7: for all of these things to get ready to go.
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Speaker 7: Also over these you know, last couple decades, I think
17:48
Speaker 7: everybody knows additive manufacturing, different types of welding, all of
17:53
Speaker 7: this has all this production has allowed us to build
17:56
Speaker 7: spacecraft which are amazing. So we're looking forward to low
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Speaker 7: the Orion capsule this fault. I mean this next year
18:03
Speaker 7: rather with UH, with four crew members on the Space
18:07
Speaker 7: Launch System rocket, they'll go around the move to prove
18:11
Speaker 7: all of our guidance, navigation, control systems and everything that
18:14
Speaker 7: we've now modernized works quite well and where we can
18:18
Speaker 7: head to the right place. UH, check out the heat
18:20
Speaker 7: shield as we come back into the atmosphere much hotter
18:23
Speaker 7: than from lower orbit where we were want to make
18:25
Speaker 7: sure that all works right. And then we're going to
18:27
Speaker 7: be ready to work with more inn more of our
18:29
Speaker 7: commercial partners to get ready to land on the mood
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Speaker 7: hopefully Artemis three, Artemis four in the next couple of years.
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Speaker 1: So it's it's at you're saying, this could happen in
18:39
Speaker 1: the next couple of years that we could literally have
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Speaker 1: and an HD color people landing on the Moon and
18:45
Speaker 1: us getting to see it.
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Speaker 7: I think, so yeah, And this next year we'll have
18:48
Speaker 7: you know, Artemis two, and then following probably two years
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Speaker 7: after that, Artemis three, and then follow on people you know,
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Speaker 7: footsteps back on the moon. Pretty awesome, and you know,
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Speaker 7: there's so much to do, it's really going to be busy.
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Speaker 7: So hopefully we've inspired a bunch of you know, high
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Speaker 7: school university kids to want to get involved. Their time
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Speaker 7: is in the is prime right now.
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Speaker 1: Final question, any chance you're going to be walking on
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Speaker 1: the moon? And how competitive is it to be one
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Speaker 1: of those who.
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Speaker 2: Gets to do it?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty to Tanya Harding in the lag
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Speaker 1: you know, to just get get at the front of
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Speaker 1: that line.
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Speaker 7: Hey, you know, I borrowed shorts from a buddy. We're
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Speaker 7: a big team effort here. I'm just happy to see
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Speaker 7: the next generation of astronauts put their foot in history
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Speaker 7: and walk on the Moon. I'll be there supporting them,
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Speaker 7: working on some stuff for the rest of the year
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Speaker 7: to get them ready to go. So we're making it happen.
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Speaker 7: I would love to go if they said.
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Speaker 1: No one's been named one assuming right, has anyone been
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Speaker 1: named yet for that mission?
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Speaker 8: Or no?
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Speaker 7: Not for the landing yet, not for artemistry.
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Speaker 1: Yet I love it. That's see, that's why she's training folks.
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Speaker 1: She can be PC, but we all know she wants
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Speaker 1: to get on the moon. I would if I was you.
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Speaker 1: That's the Holy Grail?
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Speaker 2: Is it not?
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Speaker 3: Oh?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, of course of course it is. But I think
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Speaker 7: my husband would kill me.
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Speaker 1: That's you know what you can we can work through that.
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Speaker 1: There's counselors for that. I appreciate you coming on and
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Speaker 1: Sonny just and talking. By the way, if you've got kids,
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Speaker 1: grandkids out there listening. If you're on social media, really
20:15
Speaker 1: cool social media page, so you can see the Instagram
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Speaker 1: page I follow, it's awesome and you can inspire others.
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Speaker 1: This is exciting news for NASA. It's it's an exciting
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Speaker 1: news for space travel and going to the moon.
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Speaker 2: Sonny.
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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time and congratulations on unbelievable career.
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, Ben, thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be amazing if Democrats actually were willing to
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Speaker 1: fight criminals in Chicago with the same type of anger
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Speaker 1: and vigor they're using towards Donald Trump and law enforcement. Well,
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Speaker 1: the only tough talk you're getting right now out of
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Speaker 1: Chicago officials is threats of lawsuits against Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 1: Illinois Governor J. D. Pritz kerb and the Chicago mayor
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Speaker 1: Junson have teamed up and are not backing down, as
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Speaker 1: they say they are angered by the idea of preparations
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Speaker 1: for what they describe as an illegal immigrant roundup. That
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Speaker 1: is illegal by the Trump administration in the Windy City Now.
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Speaker 1: According to an internal federal memo obtained by CBS News,
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Speaker 1: the Department of Home in Security has asked the Department
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Speaker 1: of Defense to house roughly two hundred and fifty federal
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Speaker 1: agents and one hundred and forty vehicles at an Illinois
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Speaker 1: military base and anticipation of an expected increase in illegal
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Speaker 1: alien arrests within the Chicago area. CBS News exploding on this,
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Speaker 1: saying in a request for the assistance to the Department
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Speaker 1: of Defense, a top Homeland Security official indicated that the
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Speaker 1: Naval Station Great Lakes, the largest military base in Illinois
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Speaker 1: and the Navy's largest training station, would be used as
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Speaker 1: a staging area to oversee the removal operations in the
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Speaker 1: metropolitan Chicago area targeting immigrants suspected of being in the
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Speaker 1: US illegally. Now, the President of the United States of America,
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, was asked about this, and I want you
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Speaker 1: to hear what he had to say to a reporter
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Speaker 1: that was trying to badger him as he was leaving
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Speaker 1: for Marine one.
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Speaker 9: News.
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Speaker 4: You say that, dog, let's take news.
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Speaker 7: Listen, be quiet, listen, you don't listen, You never listen.
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Speaker 7: That's why you're second grade.
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Speaker 2: We're not going to war.
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Speaker 4: We're going to clean up our city.
22:32
Speaker 2: We're going to clean them up so they don't.
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Speaker 6: Kill five people every weekend.
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Speaker 2: That's not war. That's common sense.
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Speaker 1: I love the last statement there by President Trump. We're
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Speaker 1: going to clean it up so they don't kill five
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Speaker 1: people every weekend. That's not war. That's common sense. Tom
22:51
Speaker 1: Homan also asked about this on CNN Say of the Union,
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Speaker 1: and here's what he had to say about it as well.
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Speaker 10: Joining us now to discuss is the president and it's borders?
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Speaker 10: Are Tom Homan? Mister Homan, always good to have you.
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Speaker 11: So.
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Speaker 10: The governor of Illinois responded to President Trump's post. He wrote, quote,
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Speaker 10: the President of the United States is threatening to go
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Speaker 10: to war with an American city. This is not a joke,
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Speaker 10: This is not normal. Donald Trump isn't a strong man,
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Speaker 10: He's a scared man. Illinois won't be intimidated by a
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Speaker 10: wanna be dictator.
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Speaker 7: Unquotes.
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Speaker 10: Is President Trump planning to go to war in Chicago.
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Speaker 11: We're going to war with illegal aliens, public safety threats
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Speaker 11: that rape children, that raped citizens, that committed armed robberies,
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Speaker 11: that the distributing narcotics at kill Americans. We're at war
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Speaker 11: with the criminal cartels, and Governor Prisco protects criminal, illegal
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Speaker 11: alien public safety threats every day in that state. Along
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Speaker 11: with Mary Johnson, we proved that the first week of
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Speaker 11: the administration, I went to Chicago. I started an operation there.
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Speaker 11: The first day, We're arrested nine sexual predators, most of
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Speaker 11: them child rapists. We arrested nine members of TDA. Several
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Speaker 11: of the TDA members had a pistol, an illegal pistol
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Speaker 11: the switch on it which makes that pistol fully automatic.
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Speaker 11: We arrested two illegal aliens that a homicide conviction. That
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Speaker 11: was the first in Chicago. So you know, President Trump
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Speaker 11: and this administration, Yeah, we're at war with the criminal
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Speaker 11: cartels and those who want to murder and rape the
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Speaker 11: American citizens.
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Speaker 2: You' damn right.
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Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing how the media decides to spend this
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Speaker 1: story that somehow Donald Trump is going to go to
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Speaker 1: war with a American city. No, We're going to war
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Speaker 1: with the criminal legal aliens every day, no matter where
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Speaker 1: they are. And that is the Trump doctrine. Now, of
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Speaker 1: course Sinnan didn't like this doctrine, right, They don't like
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Speaker 1: the fact that this administration is fighting back against criminals.
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Speaker 1: They want to act like somehow Donald Trump is a
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Speaker 1: dictator and a tyrant. And so Jake Tapper does what
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Speaker 1: Jake Tapper does. He decides to, you know, be an
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Speaker 1: elitist and grandstand with Tom Homan. And that's where he
24:55
Speaker 1: decided to say, well, hold on a second, you guys
24:58
Speaker 1: have been flooding the zone and Chicago, and is that
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Speaker 1: really the job of the government.
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Speaker 11: The problem marriage which are sanctuary cities.
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Speaker 10: Governor Pritzker says Illinois has not received any notification about
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Speaker 10: any enforcement action from the White House. Will you be
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Speaker 10: coordinating with them about an operation of the size in Chicago?
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Speaker 11: Governor Prisker has been noted five day one. Again, I
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Speaker 11: went there and started in operation right after the inauguration.
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Speaker 11: ICE agents have been flooding the zone in Chicago for
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Speaker 11: a while now, so he's aware of what's going on.
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Speaker 11: I mean, he knows we've been there. We were there
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Speaker 11: last week, we're there the week before. Now again we're
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Speaker 11: going to send additional resources to all sanctuary cities. But
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Speaker 11: this isn't new to him. He knows we've been there,
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Speaker 11: and he's failed to work with us. The Mary Johnson
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Speaker 11: has failed to work with us again to this day.
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Speaker 11: A significant public safety threat gets locked into a jail
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Speaker 11: in Illinois, in Chicago, Cook County Jail one of the
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Speaker 11: most target rich environments for criminal illegal aliens, and we've
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Speaker 11: dropped the detainers. Say hey, this guy's are illegally the
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Speaker 11: United States. You have custody and you' dumb on thee
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Speaker 11: call us and we'll come and get them. Let us
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Speaker 11: deal with our enforcing our law. And they simply ignore
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Speaker 11: it and release into the streets. And what happens then
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Speaker 11: when we release a public safety threat back into the public,
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Speaker 11: It makes a community unsafe. It makes us unsafe for
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Speaker 11: our agents have to go into the community and try
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Speaker 11: to find somebody. Now in history, if we as access
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Speaker 11: to who knows what weapons, It makes unsafe for the
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Speaker 11: illegal anim because anything can happen on a street arrest.
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Speaker 11: Give us the public safety threat in the safety and
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Speaker 11: security of Accounty Jail makes it safer for everybody.
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Speaker 1: You listen to the reality that they refuse even the
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Speaker 1: worst illegal immigrant criminal where there is an ICE detainer
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Speaker 1: and they say to law enforcement, tell us when you're
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Speaker 1: done with them, and we'll come pick them up. And
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Speaker 1: what do they say in Illinois, we will not notify you,
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Speaker 1: we will not work with you.
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Speaker 2: We are going to.
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Speaker 1: Release these rapists, these murderers, these cartel members, these drug
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Speaker 1: dealers back into our streets to terrorize our citizens because
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Speaker 1: we care more about hating Trump than we do about
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Speaker 1: keeping people safe.
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Speaker 2: Which brings us back to the governor.
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Speaker 1: Governor Pritzker saying this about Donald Trump's plan to bring
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Speaker 1: in more resources into Chicago.
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Speaker 6: By the way, the homicide rate in Chicago has now
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Speaker 6: been cut in half over the last four years because
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Speaker 6: of the investments that we've made on the ground. It's
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Speaker 6: not just in police. I have invested significantly in police,
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Speaker 6: but we've also made massive investments in community violence intervention.
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Speaker 6: Those programs are working. We're doing more than any other
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Speaker 6: state in that regard, and it's working on the streets
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Speaker 6: of Chicago. He doesn't read anything, he doesn't really understand anything.
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Speaker 6: He just has some idea in his head that Chicago
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Speaker 6: is bad. He's always had that. By the way, I
27:43
Speaker 6: also think I live rent free in the guy's head,
27:45
Speaker 6: so he's constantly thinking about, you know, how do I
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Speaker 6: attack Chicago? And oh, yeah, I hate that Pritzker guy too.
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Speaker 1: There it is very clear. It's all about the politics
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Speaker 1: with the governor. He wants to attack. Donald Trump doesn't
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Speaker 1: want to work with law enforcement, he doesn't want to
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Speaker 1: allow for anyone to be safe in his cities, and
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Speaker 1: lying over and over again. There's a mother of a
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Speaker 1: murdered girl, a Chicago resident, who decided to go on
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Speaker 1: Fox and Friends, and here's what she had to say
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Speaker 1: about how she is terrified and others are terrified to
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Speaker 1: even walk the streets, and she lost her own child
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Speaker 1: to this type of horrific violence in Chicago.
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Speaker 9: This is a mother of a girl murdered in Chicago
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Speaker 9: who says she wants President Trump to come in and
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Speaker 9: fix the city.
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Speaker 5: I would like the governors to ask for help because
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Speaker 5: the thing that's in place right now is not working.
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Speaker 5: We're scared to sit in our cars. We're scared to
28:48
Speaker 5: have our kids walking to school.
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Speaker 9: I mean, we have residents like you on every single
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Speaker 9: day who're saying we want the governor to ask for help,
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Speaker 9: we want the federal government to step in. So what
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Speaker 9: more is it gonna take.
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Speaker 8: I think it's gonna take one of their own to
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Speaker 8: actually suffer through, you know, some of the things that
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Speaker 8: we go through in Chicago. I actually challenged JB. Prisker
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Speaker 8: Brandon Johnson to actually walk the same streets that I
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Speaker 8: walk here in Chicago, I mean without the police detail,
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Speaker 8: without the suits, of course, and we'll see if they
29:21
Speaker 8: have that same opinion. When it comes to JB. Pritsker
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Speaker 8: saying that Chicago is safe, I feel like a lot
29:26
Speaker 8: of this is just virtue signaling. When it comes to JB. Prisker,
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Speaker 8: he think he's living rent free and Donald Trump's head
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Speaker 8: that I honestly think it's the other way around. And
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Speaker 8: when it comes to Brandon Johnson and all of the
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Speaker 8: race baiting and things like that, he tends to think
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Speaker 8: that police are races because you know, majority of police
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Speaker 8: officer happens to be white Caucasian males. But you know,
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Speaker 8: he fails to tell the people that there were over
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Speaker 8: thirty two hundred black slave owners in America and they
29:54
Speaker 8: own over twelve thousand slaves. So we can play the
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Speaker 8: color game, but that's not gonna help the issue when
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Speaker 8: it comes to safety in Chicago.
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Speaker 9: Well, we know you know the city well, and for
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Speaker 9: those of us who have known that city for a
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Speaker 9: long time, it is just not what it once was.
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Speaker 9: It's changed significantly, and it's rough for so many families
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Speaker 9: that can't leave and that have to continue to live
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Speaker 9: there for work and otherwise. So appreciate you coming on.
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Speaker 1: You listen to these residents, not one, but two there
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Speaker 1: telling their stories talking about how bad it is. Do
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Speaker 1: you notice the governor and the mayor are not listening
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Speaker 1: to them at all? And this is exactly why Donald
30:32
Speaker 1: Trump right now is so popular because he's actually doing
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Speaker 1: what he said he was going to do. He's not
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Speaker 1: going to sit back and watch people get killed. He's
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Speaker 1: not going to sit back and say I'm sorry. But
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Speaker 1: because you're in that city, you're not going to be safe.
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Speaker 1: And this is why I think there are so many
30:53
Speaker 1: Americans right now that like this present more than they
30:55
Speaker 1: did in his first administration.
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Speaker 2: He's doing it differently.
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