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Fauci Lied and People Died · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: You may have heard the saying Fauci lied and people died.
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Speaker 1: It was a trend after we found out just how
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Speaker 1: corrupt the government was and how wrong they were on
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Speaker 1: actually dealing with COVID. What you may not realize is
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Speaker 1: how accurate that saying Fauci lied and people die may
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Speaker 1: actually be until today when we found out a lot
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Speaker 1: more about what Anthony Fauci thought about COVID and what
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Speaker 1: he made up what wasn't even close to reality. Anthony
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Speaker 1: Fauci went before Congress and had to admit on Monday
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Speaker 1: that the effectiveness of the coronavirus vaccines was a complicated
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Speaker 1: issue quote unquote, I'm not kidding.
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Speaker 2: A complicated issue.
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Speaker 1: That's how he described it, saying the effectiveness of the
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Speaker 1: coronavirus vaccines as they did not quote prevent the transmission
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Speaker 1: of the coronavirus as originally promised and pitched to the
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Speaker 1: American people.
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Speaker 2: He said it was a complicated issue.
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Speaker 1: During the line of questioning before the House Selects Subcommittee
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Speaker 1: on the coronavirus Pandemic, the chairman, Brad Winthrop, a Republican
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Speaker 1: from Ohio, asked Fauci about the effectiveness or lack thereof,
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Speaker 1: of the coronavirus vaccine, knowing that they did not stop
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Speaker 1: the transmission of the virus, even though he promised that
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Speaker 1: it would save your life and that it would stop
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Speaker 1: the transmission. Member two weeks to stop the spread. Quote
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Speaker 1: Did the COVID vaccine stop transmission of the virus? He
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Speaker 1: was asked, very simply. The response Fauci, That is a
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Speaker 1: complicated issue because in the beginning, the first iteration of
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Speaker 1: the vaccines did have an effect, not one hundred percent,
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Speaker 1: but a high effect, Fauci admitted, although he claimed they
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Speaker 1: quote did prevent infection and subsequently obviously transmission quote unquote, However,
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Speaker 1: it's important to point out something that we did not
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Speaker 1: know early on, and that became evident as the months
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Speaker 1: went by.
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Speaker 2: He said.
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Speaker 1: It was the durability of protection against infection and hence
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Speaker 1: transmission was relatively limited, whereas the duration of the protection
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Speaker 1: against the disease hospitalization deaths was more prolonged. Fauci claimed,
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Speaker 1: asserting that they quote did not know that in the beginning.
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Speaker 1: In the beginning, it was felt that in fact it
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Speaker 1: did prevent infection and thus transmission, but that was proven
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Speaker 1: as time went by not to be a durable effect.
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Speaker 1: He concluded, adding and admitting that the vaccine was not
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Speaker 1: asked if the coronavirus vaccine was one hundred percent effective,
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Speaker 1: and he said, I don't believe any vaccine is one
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Speaker 1: hundred percent effective. Well, President Biden's among those that does
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Speaker 1: believe that the vaccine is one hundred percent effective. In fact,
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Speaker 1: he's the one that claimed it in twenty twenty one,
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Speaker 1: the vaccine individuals could not contract the virus.
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Speaker 2: And let me remind you, one year after.
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Speaker 1: Biden claimed that he was twice vaccinated and twice boosted
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Speaker 1: in what happened, we know Joe Biden got COVID nineteen. Yes,
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Speaker 1: after months of demonizing those that chose not to get
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Speaker 1: the vaccine. In twenty twenty one, Biden also falsely claimed
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Speaker 1: that the vaccine could not those that were vaccinated could
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Speaker 1: quote not spread the disease.
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Speaker 2: We also now know that that is a lie.
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Speaker 1: Now, Fauci had a lot of questions that he was asked,
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Speaker 1: and I'm going to play some of them for you
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Speaker 1: because i want you to hear just not only how arrogant.
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Speaker 2: But also how corrupt.
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Speaker 1: Fauci is and how many lies he actually told when
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Speaker 1: it came to all of these issues. One of the
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Speaker 1: big things that I think is extremely important for people
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Speaker 1: to remember is that doctor Fauci was the highest paid
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Speaker 1: member of the United States government. Yes, the highest paid
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Speaker 1: member of the United States government, a man that was
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Speaker 1: elected by no one, that locked down our entire country.
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Speaker 1: Congressman Brad Winthrop, the Republican from Ohio, he said this,
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Speaker 1: and I want you to listen carefully.
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Speaker 3: We have senior officials from your office in their own
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Speaker 3: writing discussing breaking federal law, deleting official records, and sharing
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Speaker 3: private government information with grant recipients. The office you directed
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Speaker 3: and those serving under your leadership chose to flout the
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Speaker 3: law and bragged about it. Why did you allow your
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Speaker 3: office to be unaccountable to the American people? You were
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Speaker 3: the highest paid person in the government. This makes you
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Speaker 3: more accountable to the people, not less, Doctor Fauci, whether
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Speaker 3: intentional or not, you became so powerful that any disagreements
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Speaker 3: the public had with you were forbidden and censored on
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Speaker 3: social and legacy media time and time again. This is
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Speaker 3: why so many Americans became so angry, because this was
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Speaker 3: fundamentally un American.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with that statement more. And it brings
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Speaker 1: up the bigger point. It wasn't just the lockdowns. It
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Speaker 1: wasn't just a silencing, It wasn't just a shutting down
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Speaker 1: of the schools. The biggest problem with what doctor Fauci did,
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Speaker 1: the most important point that we should all remind people of,
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Speaker 1: is he went after his critics and made sure they
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Speaker 1: were taken off of social media and everything that they
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Speaker 1: said he would flag to Twitter and Facebook and Instagram
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Speaker 1: things he didn't like that were controversial, right, that were
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Speaker 1: mean spirited to him and his psychopaths at the NIH.
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Speaker 2: He made sure that.
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Speaker 1: If you said anything negative about the vaccine or asked
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Speaker 1: questions or about ivermectin, that you were banished from social media.
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Speaker 1: And that is exactly the point that was being made
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Speaker 1: there by the congressman. Whether you like it or not,
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Speaker 1: you became way too powerful. I would argue that he
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Speaker 1: had a god complex. A god complex is what Fauci
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Speaker 1: was all about. And Fauci was a guy that loved
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Speaker 1: being in charge. Doctor Fauci also was asked another question,
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Speaker 1: and it was about the taxpayer's dollars.
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Speaker 2: Listen to this.
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Speaker 3: Does it concern you if US tax payer dollars are
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Speaker 3: funding someone like this.
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Speaker 4: Grants that are submitted to the NIAI D go through
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Speaker 4: a very Does it concern you.
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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about the process. I don't know if
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Speaker 3: it concerned you that the U that US taxpayer dollars
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Speaker 3: would be going to someone who's a high ranking Chinese
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Speaker 3: PLA official.
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Speaker 5: Yes or no.
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Speaker 4: I would have to know more about that, mister check
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Speaker 4: because I don't even know me talking.
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Speaker 3: About are you or were you ever awhere that the
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Speaker 3: US State Department in two thousand and five issued warnings
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Speaker 3: that the Chinese government was working on the creation of bioweapons.
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Speaker 1: Notice how dumb, all of a sudden, Fauci becomes there.
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Speaker 1: I don't even know what you're talking about. Simple question
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Speaker 1: from the congressman. Does it concern you that used taxpayer
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Speaker 1: dollars would be going to someone who's a high ranking
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Speaker 1: Chinese PLA official. I don't even know you're talking about.
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Speaker 1: Fauci says right, I'm just an ignorant scientist. All of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, you were the most important. You were the
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Speaker 1: guy that locked us down. You were the guy that
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Speaker 1: shut the schools down and shut the businesses out down,
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Speaker 1: made up rules that you just pulled out of your
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Speaker 1: abless right six foot rule wear a mask in ninety five.
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Speaker 1: That mask isn't good enough. This mask is gonna do it.
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Speaker 1: You get the vaccine, you're going to be protected. But
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Speaker 1: when you ask him about US taxpayer dollars going to
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Speaker 1: someone and it was a high ranking Chinese PLA officially,
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Speaker 1: he's like, I don't even know what you're talking about.
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Speaker 1: The narcissism and godlike complex that this country had to
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Speaker 1: endure from doctor Fauci because you couldn't question the science,
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Speaker 1: you couldn't question him as a dictator, a man elected
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Speaker 1: by no one in many ways had more power than
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Speaker 1: the president of the United States of America.
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Speaker 2: And now accountability time is coming.
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Speaker 1: And look how stupid all of a sudden he gets
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Speaker 1: he knew everything about COVID and how you had to
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Speaker 1: run your life and admitted he made a bunch of
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Speaker 1: it up.
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Speaker 2: And now he's like, I don't know what you're talking about.
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Speaker 1: I don't remember that person, I don't know what I
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Speaker 1: was saying in my emails.
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Speaker 2: I'm not really sure where you're getting this information.
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Speaker 1: Because he knows he's now caught as a liar, and
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Speaker 1: Fauci lied and people died. Has never been more important
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Speaker 1: of a point to make than it is right now,
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Speaker 1: because we have the facts to back it up. Doctor
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Speaker 1: Fauci was also asked some other interesting questions, questions that
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Speaker 1: you would be asking only if you probably knew the
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Speaker 1: answer to your question before you would even think to
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Speaker 1: ask this type of question. One of it was about communication,
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Speaker 1: ever conduct government business and private emails?
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Speaker 5: Ever delete an official record?
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Speaker 6: No doctor Fauci, did you ever conduct official business via email?
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Speaker 4: To the best of my recollection and knowledge, I have
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Speaker 4: never conducted official business via my private email.
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Speaker 2: To the best of my recollection.
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Speaker 1: If that's not a cover your a double s statement,
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Speaker 1: I don't know what is. Like that is a cover
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Speaker 1: your a doubles statement, like in a very very very
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Speaker 1: big way. And it's one that again makes me laugh
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Speaker 1: because it's so clearly obvious that.
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Speaker 2: He's not wanting to tell you the truth.
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Speaker 1: He's not going to be intellectually honest with you about
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Speaker 1: any of this.
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Speaker 2: He also was asked about the Wuhan Institute.
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Speaker 1: Remember when he said it was a conspiracy theory and
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Speaker 1: he ripped on anyone that said that Wuhan may have
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Speaker 1: leaked this.
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Speaker 2: Remember that? What did he say?
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Speaker 4: Listen, do you do you agree that there was a
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Speaker 4: push to downplay the lab leak theory?
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Speaker 5: Not on my part? Really really wow? Well, I think
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Speaker 5: I think most of the country will find that find
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Speaker 5: that amazing. I said eleven seconds, but look at the facts.
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Speaker 4: I've kept an open mind throughout the entire process.
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Speaker 5: All right, Hi, you back?
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Speaker 1: I mean Jordan's face right there was like this is
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Speaker 1: a SoundBite that's going to live forever.
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Speaker 2: He sits there and he says, I kept an open mind.
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Speaker 2: No he didn't.
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Speaker 1: He was the guy that was telling you it was
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Speaker 1: it was it was bats, you remember that. Then he
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Speaker 1: was the guy telling you that it was you know,
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Speaker 1: KRK dogs and carcasses at the at the wet market.
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Speaker 1: And then he's like, no, no, it couldn't be from a
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Speaker 1: lab that we were sending countless millions of dollars to.
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Speaker 2: Couldn't have been a leak from that lab. No, No,
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Speaker 2: it was a bat.
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Speaker 1: And then it was dogs, and it was maybe cats
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Speaker 1: and other like arm animals in the market.
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Speaker 2: That's what it was.
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Speaker 1: We don't want you to know that me, doctor Fauci,
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Speaker 1: was sending millions of your taxpayers dollars the WU hunt
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Speaker 2: No, we would never want to talk about that.
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Speaker 1: there's got to be an easier subject for him. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so let's move on to the lockdowns. You're the guy
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Speaker 1: that decided to shut it all down. So what did
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Speaker 1: you say and how did that work? Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to this back and forth.
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Speaker 6: I'm going to go through a list of COVID mitigation
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Speaker 6: measures that you supported over the course of the pandemic
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Speaker 6: and ask you to give me a yes or no
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Speaker 6: as to whether you believe these measures were justified.
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Speaker 4: Business closures early on when five thousand people were dying
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Speaker 4: a day. Yes, church closers, same things. These were important
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Speaker 4: when we were trying to stop the tsunami of death.
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Speaker 6: Mass mandates for adults, mass mandates for children, mass mandates
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Speaker 6: for children under five.
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Speaker 4: And going back to what I said before, all of
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Speaker 4: that is in the context of at the time.
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Speaker 6: Masteriflo under five days scientific evidence for that, excuse me,
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Speaker 6: mass mandates for children under five, their scientific evidence supporting that.
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Speaker 4: There was no study that did masks on kids before.
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Speaker 2: You couldn't do the study.
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Speaker 4: You had to respond to an epidemic that was killing
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Speaker 4: four to five thousand Americans.
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Speaker 6: Vaccine mandates for employees, vaccine mandates for students, vaccine mandates
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Speaker 6: for military.
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Speaker 4: Vaccines save lives.
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Speaker 2: It is very very clear that Vue I love this, right,
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Speaker 2: He's like vaccines for military.
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Speaker 1: You understand, we lost some of the best men and
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Speaker 1: women in our military because the vaccine mandate in our
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Speaker 1: military and destroyed people's service this country and their lives
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Speaker 1: in many ways. Like that's something that I do think
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Speaker 1: needs to be very clearly stated here, is that there
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Speaker 1: were countless men and women that were treated like leopards
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Speaker 1: in the Bible because they wouldn't get the vaccine and
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Speaker 1: lost We lost some our most brilliant men and women
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Speaker 1: and warriors and minds in our military because of vaccine mandates.
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Speaker 2: And then he admits, right.
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Speaker 1: Because we talked about this just a few minutes ago,
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Speaker 1: that the vaccine was not as effective as we said
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Speaker 1: it was, and in fact, it didn't stop the transmission,
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Speaker 1: and we mocked and ridiculed and silenced anyone that asked questions.
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Speaker 1: And then he's asked a question about like, hey, were
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Speaker 1: was this too extreme to have these mandates and our
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Speaker 1: women in the military, And he's like, vaccines work, damn it,
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Speaker 1: they work. I tell you they work.
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Speaker 4: Well.
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Speaker 2: Did this vaccine work? Well? No, But that's beside the point.
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Speaker 2: Vaccines work.
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Speaker 1: How dare you question me, doctor Fauci about the effectives
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Speaker 1: of vaccines in general?
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Speaker 2: Right, because now you're one of those people.
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Speaker 1: And that's the line, by the way, that that congressman
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Speaker 1: just said that would have gotten him kicked off of
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Speaker 1: social media two years ago. If he would have asked
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Speaker 1: these same exact questions, Fauci and the NIH would have
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Speaker 1: sent an email to Twitter or to Instagram or to
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Speaker 1: YouTube saying take down this misinformation, and they would have
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Speaker 1: done it and shut down your account.
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Speaker 4: Things have saved hundreds of thousands of Americans.
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Speaker 5: And I'm not debateing.
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Speaker 6: We're talking about the COVID nineteen did or do the vaccines.
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Speaker 6: The COVID nineteen vaccines stopped anyone from getting COVID.
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Speaker 4: I answered that question to the chairman. Early on, it
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Speaker 4: became clear that they did no, actually no. In the beginning,
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Speaker 4: it clearly prevented infection in a certain percentage of people,
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Speaker 4: but the durability of its ability to prevent infection was
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Speaker 4: not long.
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Speaker 2: It was measured in months.
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Speaker 5: And they didn't stop you from spreading it either.
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Speaker 4: Early on it did if it prevented infection, but what
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Speaker 4: became clear that it did not prevent transmission when the
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Speaker 4: ability to prevent infection way.
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Speaker 6: I think what's troubling is when the American people look
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Speaker 6: at the certainty in my area that did not have
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Speaker 6: a single case of COVID in their rural community that
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Speaker 6: had to shut down and people not get care that
18:57
Speaker 6: they did need for cancer and passed away because of
19:01
Speaker 6: those kind.
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Speaker 5: Of things, and.
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Speaker 6: Time after timing in people's lives are destroyed. And we
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Speaker 6: have not seen the same sort of once the new
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Speaker 6: data came available, we did not see a change, of course.
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Speaker 6: And you'll point out, for example, in the schools that
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Speaker 6: the CDC you know, put out the guidelines for example,
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Speaker 6: but we know that those guidelines end up being protection
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Speaker 6: from lawsuits if you don't want to be sued, you
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Speaker 6: better follow the guidelines. So they're not mandates to facto mandates,
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Speaker 6: but they turn out to be such a mandate. And
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Speaker 6: when the science began to change and begin we all
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Speaker 6: understand that in the first couple of weeks, first few weeks,
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Speaker 6: even a couple months, we were all trying to figure
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Speaker 6: it out.
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Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of grace for that.
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Speaker 6: The concern is that as the science became available, there
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Speaker 6: wasn't like a, oh, maybe we should consider the lab leak.
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Speaker 6: Never heard these messaging coming from you or from anyone
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Speaker 6: else who stood on the sidelines talking about out these things,
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Speaker 6: and it's left the American people with a tremendous distrust.
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Speaker 6: I want to talk a little bit about the grant process.
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Speaker 6: My understanding from your testimony to US, it says that
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Speaker 6: the NAH process for rewarding grants is that basically, research
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Speaker 6: proposal goes to peer review committee to receive a priority score,
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Speaker 6: then it goes to an advisory council for NIH personnel,
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Speaker 6: it receives a final basically the group votes on it,
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Speaker 6: and then eventually it ends up on your desk for signature.
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Speaker 6: Right now, you said in that that sometimes if I
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Speaker 6: recall correctly, is those grants are often approved in block
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Speaker 6: in mass when they're voted on, and then you sign
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Speaker 6: off on them.
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Speaker 2: That's correct.
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Speaker 5: I I this.
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Speaker 2: This is one of the.
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Speaker 6: Things that's really troubling to the American people because they
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Speaker 6: look at their lives being destroyed. And so your name
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Speaker 6: is on every single grant, but yet you absolve yourself
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Speaker 6: of any sort of responsibility by saying, well, you know,
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Speaker 6: it goes to this committee that's you know, that has
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Speaker 6: a number of people on it, and they're approved in block,
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Speaker 6: and so there's no accountability for anything any of the
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Speaker 6: taxpayer dollars that are going forth.
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Speaker 2: I disagree with.
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Speaker 1: By the way, isn't that amazing the way that he
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Speaker 1: just described that, And that's the reason why I want
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Speaker 1: to play it for you. Fauci's alibi is, well, I
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Speaker 1: approved every grant, but it was in a block, and
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Speaker 1: it was other people telling me that everything was good,
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Speaker 1: and a peer committee that was good, and so you
21:19
Speaker 1: really just can't hold me accountable for this because what
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Speaker 1: I was doing was I was just doing my job.
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Speaker 1: You want to know why Americans will never trust health
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Speaker 1: officials again anytime in the near future, It's because when
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Speaker 1: you hear what I just played.
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Speaker 2: For you, you.
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Speaker 1: Understand that these these individuals are psychotic people in our government.
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Speaker 2: Why would you ever trust them? Again?
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Speaker 1: Fauci has also come under fire for something else, and
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Speaker 1: that is an issue with a big article that came
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Speaker 1: out about royalties, royalties from big pharma that have been
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Speaker 1: going to the NIH in a very big way since
22:04
Speaker 1: you know, twenty twenty one, as there's been a lot
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Speaker 1: of money. Fauci was asked about this, like, hey, like
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Speaker 1: you guys have been getting rich off royalties over there,
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Speaker 1: like y'aff got a lot of cash coming in the door.
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Speaker 1: He was asked this question by congresswoman from New York
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Speaker 1: where they had a lot of people that died from COVID,
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Speaker 1: including elderly, when they put elderly people with COVID into
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Speaker 1: retirement facilities and then massive numbers.
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Speaker 2: Of people died. Listen to what Fauci had to say
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Speaker 2: about that.
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Speaker 4: A that they should really not be talking about a
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Speaker 4: lab lead.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, that's the CONSPIRA.
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Speaker 5: Appreciate that, doctor Fauci.
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Speaker 7: How much have you earned from royalties from pharmaceutical companies
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Speaker 7: since the pandemic began in twenty twenty one?
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Speaker 3: Zero?
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Speaker 7: It says NIH scientists made seven hundred and ten million
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Speaker 7: in royalties from drug makers. You're saying that you did
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Speaker 7: not receive any of the seven hundred and ten million dollars.
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Speaker 7: How much have you received in royalties between twenty twenty
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Speaker 7: one and twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 5: I think none.
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Speaker 7: Okay, So somebody received the seven hundred and ten somebody did,
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Speaker 7: but not me. You didn't receive any royalties, Okay.
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Speaker 4: I see no royalties associated with COVID I mentioned, yeah,
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Speaker 4: I said, I want to just I'm on the record,
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Speaker 4: and I want to make sure that this is clear
23:22
Speaker 4: that I've developed a monoclonal antibody about twenty five years
23:26
Speaker 4: ago that's used as a diagnostic that has nothing to
23:29
Speaker 4: do with COVID, and I receive an average of about
23:32
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty dollars a year from that.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 7: But the bottom line here is that scientists at NIH
23:38
Speaker 7: did receive seven ten million dollars in royalties, And I
23:42
Speaker 7: guess my question is, don't you think that if these
23:45
Speaker 7: experiments are made using American tax dollars at any of
23:48
Speaker 7: those royalties, this nearly billions of dollars should be going
23:51
Speaker 7: back to the American taxpayer, not in the pockets of
23:53
Speaker 7: the scientists. Do you believe that's a law that we
23:55
Speaker 7: should consider changing.
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Speaker 4: If you want to change the patent laws and the
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Speaker 4: and the Bidole Act, then go ahead. That's not for
24:05
Speaker 4: me to say.
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Speaker 5: I'm asking your opinion.
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Speaker 7: Okay, Well, anyway, moving on, I just want to say.
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Speaker 2: That I love this guy. Like this guy is still
24:13
Speaker 2: sitting there and he's so arrogant.
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Speaker 1: I want you to think about these patents, Okay, that
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Speaker 1: we came out with all this information, seven hundred and
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Speaker 1: ten million dollars, seven hundred and ten million dollars in
24:27
Speaker 1: royalties went back to n iate scientists who use your
24:31
Speaker 1: tax dollars to do their research, use your tax dollars
24:35
Speaker 1: for their labs, their offices, and their technology.
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Speaker 2: You're underwriting all of that.
24:44
Speaker 1: But then when they put their patents on it, when
24:48
Speaker 1: there is an outbreak like this, seven hundred and ten
24:52
Speaker 1: million dollars in royalties from drug makers went back into
24:56
Speaker 1: the hands of these scientists. Sounds like a pretty good
25:02
Speaker 1: reason to you know, have a pandemic. To me, you
25:08
Speaker 1: look at the people in China and this lab leak.
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Speaker 1: We know it was a lab leak. The question that
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Speaker 1: should be asked about the lab leak.
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Speaker 2: Is number one.
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Speaker 1: This were there people in China that financially benefited directly
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Speaker 1: from the lab leak? And I'm talking about these types
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Speaker 1: of royalties. That's question number one that I have. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Number two, how many other scientists around the world are
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Speaker 1: reving up for another pandemic because they realize that it
25:42
Speaker 1: is a multi billion dollar opportunity for profits. And I'm
25:49
Speaker 1: not exaggerating when I say multi billion dollar ability to
25:55
Speaker 1: profit like that is incredibly accurate. There are a lot
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Speaker 1: of people that got really rich in the pharmaceutical world
26:04
Speaker 1: when COVID happened. There were a lot of people that
26:07
Speaker 1: got really rich rich when it came to personal protection
26:10
Speaker 1: or a PPE and this, and there were hospital systems
26:14
Speaker 1: and other systems that became incredibly rich. We're talking life
26:20
Speaker 1: changing money, that was generational wealth that.
26:25
Speaker 2: Was changing hands.
26:27
Speaker 1: And in a future pandemic, people will know how to
26:32
Speaker 1: make even more money off the next one because they'll understand.
26:36
Speaker 2: Quickly how to exploit it for their gain.
26:42
Speaker 1: You're a scientist, and I want to be clear, I'm
26:45
Speaker 1: not trying to be mean to those in this community,
26:48
Speaker 1: but I am calling out the NIH for clear abuse
26:55
Speaker 1: of the system when I'm paying for all of the
26:58
Speaker 1: ability for you to do all the research, and I'm
27:01
Speaker 1: paying a taxpayer for your lab and I'm paying for
27:04
Speaker 1: your beakers, and I'm paying for everything you've got, and
27:08
Speaker 1: then you patent something and then you make seven hundred
27:11
Speaker 1: somebody made over seven hundred million. It'll be well over
27:15
Speaker 1: a billion by the end of this year in royalties
27:19
Speaker 1: from research that we as taxpayers paid for. Now, again,
27:24
Speaker 1: for me, that is a big problem. I have a
27:28
Speaker 1: huge issue with it. And that is the point that
27:32
Speaker 1: was being made there by the congressman. Now, of course
27:35
Speaker 1: he's like, well, you know, if you want to change
27:37
Speaker 1: the law, it's fine by me. I think he knows
27:39
Speaker 1: it won't be changed. But you have to understand doctor Fauci.
27:44
Speaker 1: Here is dug in. Doctor Fauci wanted to be very
27:49
Speaker 1: clear that he believes that there's no wrongdoing, and not
27:53
Speaker 1: only that he saved lives, including with social decency, which
27:57
Speaker 1: was distancing, which was not based in science.
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Speaker 2: And now during.
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Speaker 8: During your two day closed door interview in January, discussed
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Speaker 8: a number of topics regarding the public health response to
28:10
Speaker 8: COVID nineteen pandemic, some of which we've touched on briefly,
28:14
Speaker 8: but I just want to dive in a little bit
28:16
Speaker 8: deeper here. For example, you discussed both then and here
28:21
Speaker 8: with Congresswoman Caster the recommendation, and you discussed how social
28:27
Speaker 8: distancing recommendations were developed, that you yourself didn't pick this
28:32
Speaker 8: six feet and it was just really kind of a
28:35
Speaker 8: guideline in the moment. In your view, though, do social
28:40
Speaker 8: distancing recommendations and other public health measures to reduce transmission
28:47
Speaker 8: save lives?
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Speaker 2: Definitely? Definitely, one word answer, definitely.
28:55
Speaker 1: There's no science to back it up to the six
28:57
Speaker 1: foot rules save lives or the stupid plexiglass at the
29:01
Speaker 1: grocery store saved lives. But doctor Fauci makes it clear
29:07
Speaker 1: not only were the lockdowns appropriate, not only did he
29:12
Speaker 1: get nothing wrong, but also he believes that everything that
29:16
Speaker 1: they had done was important and basically saying I would
29:20
Speaker 1: have done it again.
29:23
Speaker 2: I would have done this again. He says he denies.
29:27
Speaker 1: Any wrongdoing at all in his opening statement, like I've
29:30
Speaker 1: done nothing wrong, mister.
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Speaker 4: Chairman, ranking MEMBERUS members of the subcommittee, thank you for
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Speaker 4: this opportunity to testify. Prior to my retirement from federal
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Speaker 4: service in December twenty twenty two. I had been at
29:43
Speaker 4: the NIH for fifty four years and Director of NIAID
29:46
Speaker 4: for more than thirty eight years. In those posts that
29:49
Speaker 4: was deeply involved in the songs diseases outbreaks and the
29:52
Speaker 4: AIDS pandemic flu ebola and zeka, and so under my leadership,
29:57
Speaker 4: we were well positioned to respond to COD nineteen. For
30:01
Speaker 4: at least two decades prior to the COVID outbreak, we
30:04
Speaker 4: at NIID had invested billions of dollars in research on
30:08
Speaker 4: mRNA technology and immagen design, both of which led to
30:12
Speaker 4: the swift development of COVID vaccines. Less than eleven months
30:16
Speaker 4: after the identification of this new virus, safe and highly
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Speaker 4: effective vaccines were widely available, and unprecedented accomplishment in the
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Speaker 4: history of vaccinology that saved tens of millions of lives worldwide.
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Speaker 4: I will now use my remaining time to directly address
30:34
Speaker 4: certain issues that have been seriously distorted concerning me. The
30:38
Speaker 4: first issue concerns my actions regarding the possibility that SAWS
30:43
Speaker 4: COVID two might have resulted from a lab league. On
30:46
Speaker 4: January thirty first, twenty twenty, I was informed through phone
30:50
Speaker 4: calls with Jeremy Ferrara then director of the Welcome Trust
30:53
Speaker 4: in the UK, and then with Christian Andersen, a highly
30:57
Speaker 4: regarded scientist that Scripts Research Institute, that they and Eddie Holmes,
31:02
Speaker 4: a world class evolutionary biologists from Australia, were concerned that
31:07
Speaker 4: the genomic sequence of saws Kobe two suggested that the
31:11
Speaker 4: virus could have been manipulated in a lab.
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Speaker 1: You notice in his opening statement here it's a I
31:17
Speaker 1: did nothing wrong.
31:18
Speaker 2: I did everything right.
31:20
Speaker 1: I'm now covering my abs and I'm not going to
31:24
Speaker 1: admit that i did anything wrong because I'm so good
31:28
Speaker 1: at my job that how could i have possibly gotten
31:30
Speaker 1: anything wrong. Fauci lied and people died, was what I
31:35
Speaker 1: said at the beginning, and I believe it now more
31:37
Speaker 1: than ever before. After this man went before Congress, he
31:42
Speaker 1: lied to the American people, took advantage of his power,
31:45
Speaker 1: abused his power, and lied to you. And it will
31:48
Speaker 1: cost people their lives, not just this in the past tense,
31:52
Speaker 1: but in the future because the next time they may
31:54
Speaker 1: get it right, and people are going to say, I
31:56
Speaker 1: screw off.
31:57
Speaker 2: You're the government.
31:57
Speaker 1: You're the one that locked us down last time and
31:59
Speaker 1: lied to us and said we couldn't sing at church
32:02
Speaker 1: and then we couldn't gather, and then we had to
32:03
Speaker 1: be six feet apart, and we couldn't see our families,
32:06
Speaker 1: and that we couldn't go to funerals, and we couldn't
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Speaker 1: go to the birth of our children in the hospitals
32:11
Speaker 1: because we got to separate the mom from the dead.
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Speaker 2: Remember all that, That's what Fauci did. Not only do
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Speaker 2: you do it, He's not sorry. He did it.
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