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Transforming Perspectives: Reflections on Life, Death, Failure, and Forgiveness With Donna Fairhurst · Mindful You

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  Alan Carroll: Welcome to the mindful you podcast. I'm Alan
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  Carroll. And I'm your host. And today, we have a guest who has
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  traveled from the physical to the metaphysical, metaphysical
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  being spiritual, and has traveled back and forth four
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  times. And she describes the travels as near death
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  experiences. So what's it like when you actually have moved
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  over to that place of, of death, and then to be able to come back
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  again, into the, into the physical, and describe what that
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  experience was like. And Donna has wonderful experiences of
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  that love, and that compassion, that oneness feeling that is
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  there in that space beyond the physical. So I'm excited to be
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  able to have her today share with you, what she has learned,
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  and what she has experienced on these travels back and forth
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  into that spiritual domain of consciousness. Donna, welcome.
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  Welcome to the mindful you. Podcast.
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  Donna Fairhurst: I know, I don't believe it, I know I've
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  experienced it, we are all a part of the field of infinite
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  unity. And that infinite Unity, Unity is God Creator Source,
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  whatever that is for you, in your space, and that we are here
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  and there to make a difference with our energy, we are one
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  thread in the blanket of infinite unity.
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  Alan Carroll: Hmm. That's a I've heard it expressed many ways.
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  And that's a very beautiful way. Beautiful way to express it.
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  Thank you the idea of the eyes listening now, Alan Watts and
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  Alan Watts, just talking about the self and other. And he says
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  the illusion is you got the self over here, which is me. And we
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  got the other, which is you. And it appears to be separate. And
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  he says, Well imagine a magnet has a polar opposite have that
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  have the positive, the negative, they're both the same magnet,
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  and they're both needed to balance out. So you need the
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  other for you and you need you for the other. But it's all one
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  magnets, all one field of awareness. And you have that
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  realization, which to me means you've been on a journey. And I
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  see the books. And so you've you've taken your journey, and
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  you have shared it with the world. So we have a few minutes
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  with my audience to be able to share a little bit of your
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  journey, which created the breakthroughs for you to have
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  the realizations in order to be able to articulate the way you
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  articulated what love what's a little bit of your, your your
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  journey, which ignited the flame of your passion.
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  Donna Fairhurst: Well, I was born technically legally blind
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  shortly, one year after that I contracted polio in the epidemic
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  of 1952. So I survived blindness and polio. And then was really
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  connected to spirit during that time, even from you know,
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  infancy through to toddlerhood and to the nursery school child
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  and when I started to speak a lot because I was very
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  introverted child by virtue of my experiments experience. I was
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  talking about angels and and the father mother, and and telling
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  my mum and dad, I have another Mum and Dad, and they're over
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  there. And that at the end, of course, it was very
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  disconcerting for my parents. I thought I was a bit a bit too
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  lolly. But they let me reel with it until I got to school and
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  then they said this is going to cause too much trouble. You'd
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  have to stop this nonsense. And I still would still come out in
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  barn voluntarily. And then when I was 12 my mother took me to a
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  psychologist hypnotherapist to have me hypnotized to remove my
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  dreams is what she called them. Sure it didn't work. couldn't
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  work. Get rid of the demons.
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  Alan Carroll: Yes, it couldn't work. So I just recessed young
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  lady, your present. Sort of Yeah, I just
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  Donna Fairhurst: went undercover and went into the closet and
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  excuse me, I'm just recovering from COVID. So I went into the
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  closet and I really didn't come out. Very often. I would take a
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  peek here and there and I had also cancer and two divorces and
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  I had bankruptcy from a business and through 911 No fault of my
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  own, and just had challenge after challenge. that grew me
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  and grew me I died four times and came back to tell about it.
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  And I teach from it now and live from it now and it's the fiber
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  of my infinite being.
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  Alan Carroll: So you've had a near death experience for that I
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  can remember, lords trying to tell you something on it. Well,
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  I'm
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  Donna Fairhurst: writing these are these are compilation books
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  that I contributed to I set a my outrageous goal for 2022, which
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  I set on December 31. It's taped up on my desk here was the first
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  goal was I will become an inspirational best selling
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  author in 2020 to four days later, a woman with the same
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  surname as me that we are no relation called me and said,
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  I've heard a lot about you. Would you like to write a
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  chapter for our compilation book? And I said, What will it
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  cost? You said, zero, I'm fielding all the publishing
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  costs, and every cent we make is going to breast cancer research.
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  I said, I'm in Alright, anything that's very nice. In four
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  months, I contributed to four best selling compilations. And
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  I'm now writing my own book yo yo to God, which is my
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  experience of being like a Yo yo, that he's kind of he she's
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  kind of got me going up and down.
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  Alan Carroll: The I've not had a near death experience, I have
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  heard about near death experiences, where and so I'd
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  like you to be able to describe it for the audience of what your
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  experience was, that gave you that awareness that there's
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  something beyond the body going on here.
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  Donna Fairhurst: Each experience was unique in its own, and each
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  one was longer and more intense than the previous one. In the
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  first one I just went into, into the into light, I had no
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  awareness that I had left my body or anything, I was just
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  suddenly, in this space of of light. And in the space of
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  light. It looked like the way I saw auras and colors because
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  when I was experiencing their blindness, everybody was like a
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  giant Christmas tree to me, I just saw their colors until they
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  were very close to me. And then they would take shape and, and
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  form but any buddy more than three feet away from me was just
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  this kaleidoscope of color. We're talking auras, or it's
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  yes,
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  Alan Carroll: okay, so you are able to see the auras around
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  you, you're able to see the energy field of the person in
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  front of you.
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  Donna Fairhurst: I've always been able to do that. It's been
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  it's one of the things that I had to put in the closet,
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  because I my parents didn't like me talking about everybody's
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  colors. But I learned through that because that is the way
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  that that I integrated the spaces I was in. So in my first
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  near death experience, I just learned that all there is is
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  love. That's it. On the other side there. They're hell in
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  heaven. That's a human construction. The old boys wrote
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  it in the book, and that's the way it is right over there. It's
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  just love. There's no judgment. Everybody goes to heaven or not
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  judgment is a human construction and a human condition. God has
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  no judgment does not judge God he she it whatever it is for
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  you, Creator Source. big spider in the sky, I've heard it
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  described as many things for me, it is just the all consuming
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  energy of love. And all that is the next experience led me to a
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  deeper understanding of it, I was there a little bit longer.
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  And I came back with one principle. And one principle
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  only called the comprehensible and I took me 20 years to
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  integrate that into my life and be living it for myself. And now
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  it's the first principle I teach in my program, and the next
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  experience, let's go
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  Alan Carroll: over the comprehensible. What What do you
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  mean by the calm principle?
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  Donna Fairhurst: Well, essentially, as human beings we
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  are our body is a bus that has an emotional and physical and
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  mental connection to our spiritual soul which resides in
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  our body. So our body is conceived. And then our soul
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  joins our body. When our soul joins our body. That's when we
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  have life. That's generally around the time that a mother
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  would feel the first kick kind of thing. That's the soul making
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  its presence known before that your dormant car waiting for
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  your motor to be turned on. So the soul comes in starts taking
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  over driving. You have the Mind Map heart emotional battle of
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  who's in the driver's seat?
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  Alan Carroll: Who's driving the show? Yeah, yeah, it's always
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  Donna Fairhurst: the soul.
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  Alan Carroll: But the ego thinks it's in charge.
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  Donna Fairhurst: It does. So I take the mind map and the heart
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  map and I bring it together to explain this space of sacred
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  soul self and how love and grace, self and soul combine in
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  that space. And from that is the comprehensible because as
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  humans, we tend to have have the experience of being in a state
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  of evaluation or judgment of people, places and situations.
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  When we are in the mindmap. We are in chaos and incoherence,
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  the mind doesn't know anything else, but chaos and incoherence,
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  because it's always jumping from one thing to another. And the
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  only job it has is to keep you safe. So when you step outside
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  the box, and do think feel be anything that doesn't feel safe
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  to the ego mind is going to shut you down and have you evaluating
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  everything. And when you evaluate everything, you create
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  more chaos and incoherence, you're in the mind map, it's not
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  heart centered. To create common coherence, you have to find
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  value in every person, place or situation good, bad or
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  indifferent. There's a value there, because at some point,
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  you made a choice to show up in this experience to learn from
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  it. So if you show up to learn from it, then you move into
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  chaos, common common coherence, and then you're finding value,
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  you are creating soulful solutions, and the cycle
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  repeats.
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  Alan Carroll: I do, I do a demonstration. And I talk about
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  the the opposite of calmness is agitation. I take a bottle and I
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  shake up the glitter. I said when you get agitated, you're
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  all agitated. But when you are able to take the breath, and
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  you're able to breathe, all of a sudden, everything becomes calm
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  and clear. And the challenge of it is is how do you how do you
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  manage those thoughts, which is the is the mind map you're
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  talking about, which is very chaotic. It's a it's a it's a
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  mental storm going on inside your head, especially when you
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  see something you don't like. Yeah, then then you get really
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  upset. And that's that's affected your identity, some
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  somebody has attacked your identity, which is your ego. But
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  with that love place, love places like the sky, rather than
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  the clouds, you identify with the sky, which is the Beingness.
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  And all of a sudden, you see the thought, but the gravitational
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  effect that the thought has on you. I make that decision.
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  Myself.
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  Donna Fairhurst: Yes, it's all a divine choice that you make. You
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  know, and I have so many people talk about failure, failure. And
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  forgiveness has been a big theme from tool for 2022. And there is
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  no failure. Failure is simply a tool to challenge us to dig deep
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  and rediscover our gifts and then apply them in our divine
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  mission that we chose before we ever came in here.
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  Alan Carroll: However, the problem with most folks is
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  failure is looked upon as as bad as something to avoid, not to
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  reveal. Keep it hidden, keep it secret, Keep it keep it in the
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  closet. Because if I if I if you saw me and branded me as a
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  failure, then you wouldn't want to be with me.
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  Donna Fairhurst: Well, then, then you're totally in chaos and
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  incoherence and not no close to calm because you're judging
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  yourself or you're letting other people judge you and
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  Alan Carroll: because you're judged. You bet, you bet and you
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  and mindfulness is to be in the moment. And with no thought, and
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  no thought a judgment is a thought. And so when you are not
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  judging, I teach the course of miracles. And in the Course of
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  Miracles, the 365 lessons very first lesson is whatever you see
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  in your environment, your hands, your ideas, everything in your
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  environment, has no meaning. What do you mean it has no
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  meaning? It has no no judgment, there's no, there's no, there's
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  no words you're going to use to describe good, bad, right?
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  Wrong. It doesn't have any meaning and immediately the ego.
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  Of course, it has a meaning cities, pictures of my family.
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  And the second lesson is everything you see you add the
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  meaning to so you paint the description in your mind. And
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  most people don't realize that they don't realize that you
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  paint the description of what you see, versus because then I
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  can paint it differently. I can paint it exactly the way you
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  were talking about that I am a I'm a force of the Lord and the
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  force of the God God cannot do for me what God cannot do
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  through me. So allows me to be loving and kind and
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  compassionate and and that's the clear sky and not non
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  judgmental, clarity and calm.
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  Donna Fairhurst: That's what I experienced in my second near
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  death experience. And shortly after that, I was really blessed
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  to have somebody put Neale Donald Walsch, his conference
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  first conversations with God book in my hand. And it was the
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  first time in my life. I felt validated. Yeah, I felt that I
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  know that Yes, yes, I am this Yes. And I actually have never
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  written to a person before like that. And I sat down and wrote
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  this long, long letter, and then I wasn't going to mail it. And I
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  had it in my purse and I took it out and I was going to rip it up
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  and throw it in the garbage. And one of the people working for me
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  accidentally picked it up when I wasn't at my desk and put it in
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  the mail. So it went. Seven days later, I'm in my little house in
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  the cabin in the Rockies, and my phone rings and Hi, Donna. This
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  is Neil. Neil Neil who Neale Donald Walsch. He wrote to me, I
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  want to have a discussion. And I literally, I had this long
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  tension cord on my thank God extension cord on my phone, and
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  I just kind of leaned against the wall and sunk down onto the
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  floor and said, Who Katie? And it was so wonderful. For the
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  first time in my life, I felt expansion in a way that I was
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  understood. Yes, it was just coming out of the closet in a
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  big way for me spiritually. And I absolutely adore that man was
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  fortunate to be in many of his workshops, and I'm grateful that
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  he was a vehicle for me to find myself.
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  Alan Carroll: Yep, yep. When when things like that happen, it
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  really validates this idea that there's somebody else running
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  the show here other than you. And just relax. Go with the
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  flow. forgiveness. Forgiveness is a big deal. And most people
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  have a very difficult time forgiving. And because I've been
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  wronged, Donna, I've been wrong. And for me to forgive you. That
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  is, that is that would entail the sacrifice of my righteous
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  wrath. I'm not going to sacrifice my righteous wrath.
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  I'm not going to I'm not going to that's the total denial of
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  the truth. No, God damn it. So the ego really wants to defend
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  the fact that it's been been been attacked, and but
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  forgiveness. How would you describe forgiveness in your
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  reality and the importance of
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  Donna Fairhurst: forgiveness is the ability to move beyond
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  judgment to find and create value in every experience to
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  expand your consciousness and your awareness of all that is.
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  Alan Carroll: Go ahead, say that again. That's beautiful. Oh,
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  gosh,
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  Donna Fairhurst: I really feel I have a hard time re re iterating
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  the same thing.
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  Alan Carroll: It's just, just just recreate it doesn't have to
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  be the exact same words, just recreating what you just said,
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  forgiveness
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  Donna Fairhurst: is a space and a gift that you give yourself to
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  expand beyond the planet, the human plane of judgment and
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  conditions, and failure and challenge to make a choice, a
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  conscientious heart centered choice to find value in whatever
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  person, place or situation is put in your path, that it is for
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  your higher growth, yes, and how you choose deliberately from
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  Sacred soul, self and heart centered. My goal is to show
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  teach, embody, how to marry the mind, map with the heart map to
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  create sacred soul self, from which, when you're in a
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  situation that you are not feeling the love, for whatever
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  reason, you can't bring yourself to that space of love. You can
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  then pull out of the deck of your life choices, the grace
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  card, because grace is the trump of love. You can be grace when
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  you can't be or feel love. And we all have had experiences in
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  our life, where we could not feel love and find value in the
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  person, place or situation in front of us to deal with. If we
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  take a step back, take a breath and lean into grace. We can cope
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  with conscious awareness and go through grace to love
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  Alan Carroll: and grace is connected with forgiveness.
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  Donna Fairhurst: Absolutely the first thing you have to do is
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  forgive yourself for anything, everything that you ever thought
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  was ever wrong. out of sync bad. Everything you ever did. You
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  have to forgive yourself
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  Alan Carroll: and what would forgiving myself look like? Joy
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  do I have to say something to myself be like go What a burden.
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  Say, Allen, you're gonna forgive yourself for the is there
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  something I can do actively to practice forgiveness,
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  Donna Fairhurst: there's any number of things we can do. The
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  most important thing is to find value in love you do what you
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  love, love what you do, be who you love, show the people you
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  love that love and lead them to know how to forgive, because you
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  are the model of it.
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  Alan Carroll: Wow. That's wonderful. That's wonderful.
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  What a, what a, just just a just touching little surface of a
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  conversation with with you has been really a bright light of
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  meeting somebody who is able to articulate that trance, the
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  abstraction of what we're talking about, from a heart
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  experiential point of view, which makes it real, and it's
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  not a, it's not a it's not a belief system. It's a it's an
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  experience. And that is really a goldmine. because not a lot of
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  people have that experience. And it's nice to know that that
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  experience exist, that gives people hope, that that suffering
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  that we experience in the physical with the ego, there's a
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  there's a way out of here, if you're interested in being a way
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  out, and I see that you're a healer, interested in being a
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  guide, who is a guide, guiding people out of the chaos into
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  that calm, clear space, which I call mindfulness. The all the
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  being mukti, Nirvana, enlightenment, that empty space
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  of nothingness, in which there is no judgment. And there is no
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  right or wrong. All there is is stillness, and calmness and
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  peacefulness and love and careful and then you speak with
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  the love energy, not the ego energy, you speak with the love
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  energy and you and you speak with the love energy. So I
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  really appreciate the love you've given me today. And the
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  and the stories that you shared. They're very, they're very
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  moving. They're very moving stories.
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  Donna Fairhurst: Thank you so much. I've been blessed with a
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  with what people would think were insurmountable challenges.
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  And at the time I was in them. I thought they were internet, you
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  know, insurmountable challenges until I made a choice that they
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  weren't. Yep. And as soon as you make that choice that you are
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  not the challenge. You are the solution to the challenge.
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  That's why I call my company soulful solutions. So full fu ll
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  Yeah. From when you're in that sacred soul self, you can create
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  soul based solutions.
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  Alan Carroll: Very exciting. How will my audience be able to
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  contact you, Donna?
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  Donna Fairhurst: Oh, the most simple way is my website www dot
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  Donna fair hearst.com. On the website, you're going to find
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  all the contact information for me you can get my clearing and
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  manifesting prayer and a complimentary zero to clarity 30
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  minute session.
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  Alan Carroll: Well, thank you very much. And I really enjoy
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  the opportunity of of talking to a fellow a fellow being on the
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  path to spread inspiration. Thank you.
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  Donna Fairhurst: Let the journey continue.
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  Alan Carroll: God bless. God bless you.