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HUGE WIN FOR CONSERVATIVES w/ deal to control McCarthy! · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Well, we have a new speaker. The question is was
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Speaker 1: the battle worth it? The answer absolutely, Kevin McCarthy is
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Speaker 1: a Speaker of the House, and the fight that took
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Speaker 1: place and the holdouts and the debates and the new
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Speaker 1: rule of package that is coming because he is the speaker,
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Speaker 1: was it worth it? Yeah? How much did save you?
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Speaker 1: Hundreds of billions of dollars in government spending is what
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Speaker 1: it was at stake, and now we have rules in
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Speaker 1: place to stop it from happening. Chip Roy, who was
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Speaker 1: the mastermind behind much of this and the chief negotiator
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Speaker 1: and getting many of the Republicans that were holding out,
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Speaker 1: he was one of them to then back Speaker McCarthy.
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Speaker 1: He did it because he said we needed to stop
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Speaker 1: the excessive spending in this country. He was on stay
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Speaker 1: of the Union. He had this to say, finish you right,
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Speaker 1: So why is that because you pushed back on the swamp,
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Speaker 1: the swamp's gonna push right back. We saw that in display.
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Speaker 1: That's okay. So you say, well, are we going to
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Speaker 1: have this kind of conflict going forward? I hope so.
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Speaker 1: But we started this. Now it's January, so the death
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Speaker 1: ceiling or the debate is going to be in a
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Speaker 1: few months. Let's do it now, guys, get this out there,
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Speaker 1: both sides of the aisle, everybody within each party. Let's
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Speaker 1: figure out how we're going to actually fix this because
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Speaker 1: the American people are sick of us not doing our job.
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Speaker 1: There is a bigger risk though, for the US defaulting
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Speaker 1: on the death when when it comes to the death
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Speaker 1: ceiling vote, then some short term embarrassment for Kevin McCarthy
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Speaker 1: that's the default is a bigger deal and could actually
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Speaker 1: cost billions of dollars. Understood, But remember in twenty eleven
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Speaker 1: when that Captain Balance was negotiated and putting place, and
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Speaker 1: frankly it worked for four or five years to constrain spending.
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Speaker 1: Now it had some side effects. The defense spending was
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Speaker 1: getting whacked pretty good. And we don't want to see that.
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Speaker 1: We want to be able to figure out how we
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Speaker 1: can get this going the right way to make sure
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Speaker 1: defense is protected. But we need to put limits on
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Speaker 1: spending and then get to the table. You have to
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Speaker 1: do that at own, Jake. I have to do that
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Speaker 1: at home. Every American has to do that. If we
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Speaker 1: don't stop spending money, we don't have I promise you
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Speaker 1: we will never sit at a table, Colin Allred, who's
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Speaker 1: going to be on here A little bit that I
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Speaker 1: was talking to in the green room. Colin and I
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Speaker 1: need to be able to sit at a table and
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Speaker 1: figure out how we're going to fix this for the country.
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Speaker 1: We can't do that if the leaders jam through one
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Speaker 1: point seven trillion dollars omnibus bills like happen in December,
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Speaker 1: where we have no debate on the floor. We have
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Speaker 1: to open this debate up, offer amendments, do our work,
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Speaker 1: limits spending within our means, and then move for the
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Speaker 1: country forward. If McCarthy fails to offer a debt ceiling
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Speaker 1: bill that has offsetting spending cuts, if he offers what
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Speaker 1: the Democrats in the Senate want, which is a clean bill,
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Speaker 1: would you vote to vacate the speakership because they will
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Speaker 1: now be able to be one person making that motion
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Speaker 1: to locate the speaker. Look, I'm not gonna you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to play the what if games on
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Speaker 1: how we're going to use the tools of the House
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Speaker 1: to make sure that we enforce the terms of the agreement.
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Speaker 1: But we will use the tools of the House to
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Speaker 1: enforce the terms of the agreement. No, you negotiate with
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Speaker 1: Democrats in the Senate because as you know, true I
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Speaker 1: love by the way, I got you a part here
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Speaker 1: from right, Well what about that? What about this? There's
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Speaker 1: no reason to go there yet. But this is what's
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Speaker 1: driving the media crazy. They realize now that there are
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Speaker 1: real changes coming to Washington. They realize that people like
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Speaker 1: Chip Roy and Representative Comber are going to do what
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Speaker 1: they said they're gonna do. For example, Comber today, you
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Speaker 1: want to know one of the perks of what we
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Speaker 1: just accomplish. Representative Comber said, hey, we're going to investigate
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden. We're not investigating Hunter Biden. That's the point
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Speaker 1: I've been saying for a long time. Republicans need to
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Speaker 1: get smart about this and understand Hunter Biden is not
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Speaker 1: what you need to be focusing on. It's Joe Biden. Now,
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Speaker 1: we got a lot of intel from Hunter Biden. We
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Speaker 1: have a lot of information on how the Family Crime
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Speaker 1: Network works, no doubt about it. But I really don't
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Speaker 1: care about the hookers. I don't care about the prostitutes.
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Speaker 1: I don't care about the drugs. With Hunter Biden, it
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Speaker 1: is about Joe Biden and what has Joe Biden been doing?
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Speaker 1: What is it that Joe Biden has been a part of.
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Speaker 1: How much does the big guy get? What deals could
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Speaker 1: not be done if it wasn't for the big guy.
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Speaker 1: Those are the issues that we need to be talking about.
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Speaker 1: Those are the conversations that I want there to be had.
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Speaker 1: I want the investigations to be in that. How much
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Speaker 1: was he selling out the American government for? What does
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Speaker 1: it cost to buy off the vice presidency or now
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Speaker 1: the presidency? How much money do you get for artwork
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Speaker 1: when your dad is the president? And who's buying it?
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Speaker 1: today I'll meet the press made it clear Sunday morning
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Speaker 1: when he was talking to him. Hey, that's exactly what
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Speaker 1: we are going to do. Let me ask you this,
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Speaker 1: You're gonna do a lot of oversight. You're gonna have
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Speaker 1: a lot of subpoenas. Many people look at what you're
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Speaker 1: doing and they see that it looks more partisan than professional.
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Speaker 1: By the way, that's a lie. When he just said
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Speaker 1: many people see this as more partisan than professional, that's
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Speaker 1: the media spin. That's crap. And the media now is
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Speaker 1: terrified of what we're gonna find out the same way
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Speaker 1: that they're terrified. The American people are seeing what did
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Speaker 1: the deep state and the media was doing and the
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Speaker 1: Democrats are doing, Silencing American citizens, silencing conservatives, silencing dissenters
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Speaker 1: of the things that we as conservatives were yelling about saying,
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Speaker 1: a question about heart conditions, and immediately you could be silenced.
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Speaker 1: These are the people we want you to make go away.
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Speaker 1: All of this was happening. So when you hear people
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Speaker 1: like Chuck Todd on Meet the Press saying, well, there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of people that say that what you're about
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Speaker 1: to do looks partisan number one, if you want to
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Speaker 1: talk about partisanship, and he never asked that type of question.
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Speaker 1: The Democrats when they were actually trying to overthrow the
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Speaker 1: will of the people, when they were impeaching Donald Trump,
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Speaker 1: not once but twice, don't forget what they were doing.
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Speaker 1: They knew the entire time, when they were covering that
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Speaker 1: for four straight years, five actually with Donald Trump, they
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Speaker 1: knew they were partisan hacks. They knew what they were
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Speaker 1: doing was a lie. They knew that the entire Dolcier
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Speaker 1: was a lie. They knew it was fabricated. They knew
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Speaker 1: it was created by the Democratic Party in Hillary Clinton,
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Speaker 1: and they covered it like it was real news. So
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Speaker 1: when you hear these people say stupid stuff like this
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Speaker 1: and this is stupid. When you hear the Chuck Todd's go, well,
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Speaker 1: it looks like what you guys are doing right now
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Speaker 1: might be partisan, roll your eyes and stay focused. Roll
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Speaker 1: your eyes and stay focused on what actually matters. Roll
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Speaker 1: your eyes at them, and keep going down and through
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Speaker 1: the process, because the process matters. And James Comber, when
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Speaker 1: he hears a question like this, deserves to explode. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen. Tell me how you're going to try to
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Speaker 1: departisanize an investigation or do you expect it to be partisan? Well,
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Speaker 1: with all due respect, check, I disagree with that. I
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Speaker 1: think the only people that see this as a partisan
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Speaker 1: investigation are the media and the hardcore Democrats. Look at
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Speaker 1: the same moment that the Democrats on the Ways and
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Speaker 1: Means Committee released Donald Trump's taxes, they then moments later
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Speaker 1: turned around and said Comber's investigation of the Biden family
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Speaker 1: influence peddling is a revengering. I mean, are you kidding me? Look,
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Speaker 1: Harvard Pole just came out and said sixty five percent
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Speaker 1: of the Americans believe that the contents of Hunter Biden's
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Speaker 1: laptop should be investigated. But let me be clear, let's
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Speaker 1: just stop it that the majority of Americans, sixty five
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Speaker 1: plus percent of the American people believe that the laptop
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Speaker 1: should be investigated, not because of the drugs, not because
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Speaker 1: the prostitutes, but because it involves the business dealings of
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Speaker 1: the United States government and the selling out of our interests.
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Speaker 1: That's why. Because they understand what corruption looks like, and
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Speaker 1: the big guy was getting paid. The big guy was
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Speaker 1: getting paid, and he was using his leverage then as
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Speaker 1: the vice present, now is the present to make money.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen again, here's more James Comer, incoming chair
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Speaker 1: Houseoversight Committee, fighting back against the ridiculous narratives of the
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Speaker 1: media and again quoting sixty five percent of Americans say
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Speaker 1: they believe that the content of that laptop, Hunter Biden's
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Speaker 1: Laptop from Hell, should in fact be investigated. Investigating Hunter Biden.
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Speaker 1: We're investigating Joe Biden, and I think any American who's
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Speaker 1: kept up with the political process over the past two
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Speaker 1: administrations would agree. We need to know what is allowable
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Speaker 1: and what isn't allowable with respect to foreign adversarial intervention
11:18
Speaker 1: among family members of presidents of the United States. That's
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Speaker 1: something that the Democrats complained about with Custer, and certainly
11:25
Speaker 1: the Republicans, myself included, have a complained about Jim. If
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Speaker 1: he didn't my son and brother, we got to do
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Speaker 1: something about it. If you didn't like the way the
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Speaker 1: Democrats did it, it it sounds like you're going to do
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Speaker 1: it in the same way that they did it. How
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Speaker 1: is it any better? No, very, I totally disagree with that.
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Speaker 1: Adam Schiff always over promised and underdelivered. He said just
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Speaker 1: last week the released in Trump's tax reterms was going
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Speaker 1: to be a bombshell. I mean, there's no bombshell there.
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Speaker 1: There's nothing there. Anyone I've deserved on a bank board
11:54
Speaker 1: for over a decade, There's never been a developer that's
11:56
Speaker 1: paid a lot of federal income tax because of depreciation
11:59
Speaker 1: and tax and things like that. If the Democrats want
12:02
Speaker 1: to make people like Donald Trump pay taxes, they need
12:04
Speaker 1: to change the tax code, not the tax rate, the
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Speaker 1: tax code. But with perspective what we're doing. Everything that
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Speaker 1: we have requested, we have evidence to back up. There
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Speaker 1: are emails and text messages that show Hunter Biden complaining
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Speaker 1: about having to spend so much money keeping his dad up.
12:20
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a concern because Hunter Biden's only source
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Speaker 1: of income. We're from our adversaries in China and Russia
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Speaker 1: for influence pedding. So this is something that we should
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Speaker 1: look into. This isn't political. We want to know it
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Speaker 1: was the president truthful when he said he didn't have
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Speaker 1: any knowledge or involvement of his family shady business dealings.
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Speaker 1: And once we determine that, we'll move on. Well, I
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Speaker 1: love Chuck Todd there. He's like, oh, I know you're
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Speaker 1: getting some facts here. We gotta we gotta wrap this
12:44
Speaker 1: thing up. We're gonna try to make it look like
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Speaker 1: and compare it like you're one the same of what
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12:54
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12:58
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17:42
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17:52
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17:59
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18:03
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Speaker 1: Let's spend more money, Let's just do whatever the hell
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Speaker 1: I check that out. Oh, this is a show vote.
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Speaker 1: You guys aren't serious about this, right, This is a
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Speaker 1: term limits and they support a balanced budget. Millent, I
19:18
Speaker 1: think you have two come into the Senate now from
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Speaker 1: the House, Ted Bud and Mark Wayne Mullen that would
19:24
Speaker 1: support that. They replace members of the Senate that probably
19:27
Speaker 1: wouldn't have voted for that. So we've got to start
19:30
Speaker 1: taking steps to make fundamental change in America. And I've
19:33
Speaker 1: always said from my first campaign for Congress to today
19:36
Speaker 1: that if we want to fundamentally change Congress, the two
19:39
Speaker 1: things that we can do today is pass a term
19:41
Speaker 1: limits bill and pass a balanced budget amendment. Because if
19:44
Speaker 1: there's not a balanced budget amendment, I don't have a
19:47
Speaker 1: lot of confidence that Congress is ever going to balance
19:50
Speaker 1: the budget. He's right, he doesn't believe that the Congress
19:54
Speaker 1: will ever balance the budget if we don't have term limits,
19:58
Speaker 1: because there's too many people that get their tentacles into
20:01
Speaker 1: these men and women in Congress and they say, we
20:04
Speaker 1: will get you reelected, we will support you through our superpack,
20:08
Speaker 1: our special interest groups as long as you do this,
20:12
Speaker 1: And so members of Congress instead of just voting the
20:15
Speaker 1: way they should vote, they're so worried about not being
20:18
Speaker 1: there for the rest of their career, not being there
20:20
Speaker 1: for fifteen twenty twenty five years, and making it easier
20:24
Speaker 1: and easier and easier and easier than for them to
20:27
Speaker 1: do an election and a re election. That's what they're
20:30
Speaker 1: so focused on, right, I mean, that's what they want.
20:35
Speaker 1: They want it to be easy, and they don't like
20:39
Speaker 1: having to, you know, really go out there and get
20:44
Speaker 1: and get core supporters to support them with donations. So
20:51
Speaker 1: instead what do they do. They take a superpack special
20:55
Speaker 1: interest money and they say, all right, fine, what do
20:56
Speaker 1: you want for it? What do you need? What do
21:00
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22:09
Speaker 1: this whole debate that I also think we need to
22:12
Speaker 1: talk about, not just the money, not just the term limits,
22:15
Speaker 1: but it's also this idea, and the media is really
22:19
Speaker 1: fixating on this. Well, this was a humiliating week for
22:22
Speaker 1: the Republicans. This was an embarrassing week, A week that
22:26
Speaker 1: really was embarrassing for the Republicans. No, it wasn't. It
22:30
Speaker 1: was a week that a five day fight and a
22:35
Speaker 1: bunch of votes on the speakership had a massive impact
22:40
Speaker 1: on the future of this country when it comes to
22:43
Speaker 1: being fiscally responsible. Okay, never, ever, ever, ever forget that. Okay.
22:51
Speaker 1: Charlie Hurt was talking to Dan Bondino and Fox and
22:55
Speaker 1: he was asked about this GOP in fighting and he
22:58
Speaker 1: described it in a way that I also was pretty brilliant. Listen,
23:01
Speaker 1: you know this past week on the floor of the
23:05
Speaker 1: House has you know, I know everybody talks about how
23:07
Speaker 1: embarrassing this is for Republicans. Trust me, I've watched Congress
23:11
Speaker 1: for twenty years. This is one of the least embarrassing
23:14
Speaker 1: things Congress has done in twenty years. What we're seeing
23:18
Speaker 1: is democracy. What we're seeing is a debate, an open debate. Remember,
23:23
Speaker 1: democracy dies in darkness. This is what democracy out in
23:26
Speaker 1: the open looks like. It's you have votes, you have fights,
23:30
Speaker 1: you have debates, you have arguments. And it's a very
23:33
Speaker 1: good thing. And I think it's really an important to
23:35
Speaker 1: recognize this dam the one you have this fight on
23:39
Speaker 1: the Republican side, and ultimately the fight is about spending.
23:43
Speaker 1: Spending is the most important thing that Congress does, and
23:46
Speaker 1: it's the thing that is going to destroy this country.
23:49
Speaker 1: And who doesn't have even a seat at the table here? Democrats?
23:54
Speaker 1: The Democrat Party is so dishonest, so corrupt that they
23:58
Speaker 1: don't even think that spending is a problem. They're over
24:01
Speaker 1: at the kids table drinking, boozing and eating popcorn, and
24:05
Speaker 1: Republicans are having a serious, mature, very sincere debate about
24:13
Speaker 1: spending and Democrats are nowhere to be found. But you know,
24:17
Speaker 1: if you put Democrats in charge, they'd be really nice.
24:19
Speaker 1: They put together a nice little orderly show, and nobody
24:22
Speaker 1: would be mad at one another. But the country would
24:25
Speaker 1: go down the toilet. The country would go down the toilet.
24:29
Speaker 1: Why do you think Democrats have no problem getting all together?
24:31
Speaker 1: Because they just bribe. But they're all off everybody and
24:34
Speaker 1: anyone who may get in their way. Every Democrat gets
24:37
Speaker 1: virtually every single thing financially they want when they're a
24:41
Speaker 1: member of the Democratic Caucus because they just blow it
24:44
Speaker 1: out and say screw America every time. The one point
24:47
Speaker 1: seven trillion dollars omnimus spending. There is a perfect example
24:50
Speaker 1: of that. It's come to the table. Here's your blank
24:54
Speaker 1: piece of paper, right in the crap you want for
24:57
Speaker 1: your special interest, for your stay eight for your district,
25:01
Speaker 1: and we'll give it to you. That's how the Democrats
25:05
Speaker 1: literally operate. So it wasn't and it wasn't an embarrassing week.
25:11
Speaker 1: You know, there was. There was a lot of tension.
25:13
Speaker 1: If you watch the vote live, and let's just talk
25:17
Speaker 1: about the other thing we saw. There was a moment
25:22
Speaker 1: where there was a congressman that had to be with
25:25
Speaker 1: strained who was yelling at Matt Gates. I didn't have
25:29
Speaker 1: a problem with that. There were some other mocking it
25:33
Speaker 1: and saying this is so embarrassing. Listen to what chip
25:36
Speaker 1: Roy had to say about that. He was asked about it,
25:39
Speaker 1: right and he said, you know what, maybe we'll need
25:41
Speaker 1: a little bit more of this where people actually give
25:42
Speaker 1: a crap. McCarthy has the title he has always wanted,
25:45
Speaker 1: but not necessarily the power that used to come with it.
25:48
Speaker 1: He eaked out a win, but his mandate is less assured.
25:51
Speaker 1: McCarthy required the better part of a week to grind
25:54
Speaker 1: down the conservative opposition to his speaker bid and the
25:57
Speaker 1: way things have been done in the House for decades.
25:59
Speaker 1: One of the whole outs Republican Congressmanship, Roy of Texas
26:02
Speaker 1: was instrumental in delivering him the gavel. Roy negotiated a
26:06
Speaker 1: laundry list of concessions from McCarthy designed to spread power
26:09
Speaker 1: among the House rank and file and particularly the House
26:12
Speaker 1: Freedom Caucus. By the way, does any of this sound bad? Like?
26:15
Speaker 1: I love how Jake Tapper is like, well, it's a
26:17
Speaker 1: better part of a week. That's how you know that
26:20
Speaker 1: this media hates what was just accomplished by the Republicans.
26:25
Speaker 1: They hate it. They hate it, they hate it. They
26:29
Speaker 1: are furious because they actually did something, they did something
26:34
Speaker 1: that was meaningful and important, and they can't stand that,
26:40
Speaker 1: and so they throw in these little you know, these
26:43
Speaker 1: little jabs here and there right like like this is
26:46
Speaker 1: that this was an unprincipled moment of embarrassing proportions for
26:51
Speaker 1: the Republicans. Know it wasn't. It was a brilliant moment
26:54
Speaker 1: where we actually had real change. And then I can
26:58
Speaker 1: you know, it made a mockery of Congress. There's an
27:00
Speaker 1: embarrassment for Congress. Right, That's where they're about to go
27:03
Speaker 1: with a store. You ready for this, because they're going
27:05
Speaker 1: to tell you that this is the worst thing they've
27:06
Speaker 1: ever seen. And Roy's deal ultimately flipped up to fifteen
27:10
Speaker 1: votes for McCarthy, paving the way or his victory Friday night.
27:14
Speaker 1: Joining me now for his first interview after the speaker
27:16
Speaker 1: election is Texas Republican Congressman Ship Roy. First of all,
27:19
Speaker 1: congratulations on everything that happened and getting what you wanted
27:24
Speaker 1: in the negotiations. It's it's not necessarily a sure thing
27:27
Speaker 1: that that happens. We are just learning some of the
27:32
Speaker 1: promises McCarthy made. Capping spending at twenty twenty two levels
27:36
Speaker 1: for fiscal year twenty and twenty four, a subcommittee to
27:39
Speaker 1: investigate the Justice Department, more freedom, Caucus representation on important
27:43
Speaker 1: committees like the Rules Committee, a one member threshold for
27:46
Speaker 1: avotion to vacate, which is what it used to be
27:48
Speaker 1: before twenty nineteen. What other commitments did McCarthy make you
27:51
Speaker 1: can tell us about. Well, first of all, you know,
27:54
Speaker 1: let's remember that a little temporary conflict is necessary in
27:58
Speaker 1: this town in order to stop this town from rolling
28:00
Speaker 1: over the American people. I don't think anybody on either
28:03
Speaker 1: side of the aisle could say with a straight face
28:06
Speaker 1: that they think that Washington is doing good work for
28:09
Speaker 1: the American people on a regular basis and isn't broken.
28:12
Speaker 1: We have to work to fix this place. And look
28:15
Speaker 1: some of the tensions you saw on display when we
28:18
Speaker 1: saw some of the you know, the interactions there between
28:20
Speaker 1: Mike Rodgers and Matt Gates. You know some of that
28:23
Speaker 1: is we need a little of that. We need a
28:25
Speaker 1: little of this sort of breaking the glass in order
28:27
Speaker 1: to get us to the table and orders to fight
28:29
Speaker 1: for the American people and to change the way this
28:31
Speaker 1: place is dysfunctional. So this all started going back last summer.
28:35
Speaker 1: We wanted rules to open this place up. We wanted
28:37
Speaker 1: more transparent. We wanted rules and we wanted to open
28:42
Speaker 1: this place up, and we wanted transparency. I'm glad that
28:46
Speaker 1: he addressed had head on this way. We need a
28:48
Speaker 1: little bit of interactions like the one between Mike Rodgers
28:50
Speaker 1: and Matt Gates. You know, I'm not a big fan
28:53
Speaker 1: of Gates, and I say that because I don't like
28:57
Speaker 1: the way that he was doing what he did this
28:59
Speaker 1: last week and what I mean by that is it
29:01
Speaker 1: was very personal. It wasn't about principle. I love the
29:05
Speaker 1: way that Chip Roy was doing what he was doing
29:07
Speaker 1: this week because it was all about principle and not
29:10
Speaker 1: about personality. It was I want to change things, and
29:13
Speaker 1: I'm going to hold out until we change the way
29:16
Speaker 1: that Washington does business in the House of Representatives. That
29:20
Speaker 1: was principal. You know, you look at Matt Gates. He
29:26
Speaker 1: went on Fox News and kind of got beat up
29:29
Speaker 1: a little bit. He did. The anchors there kind of
29:32
Speaker 1: put the screws to Gates following the McCarthy's quote circus,
29:35
Speaker 1: do you consider yourself a serious legislator? And the reason
29:38
Speaker 1: why they were giving him such a hard time is
29:40
Speaker 1: because it wasn't about all these agenda items. It was
29:44
Speaker 1: just about saying, I don't like Ken McCarthy. This is
29:47
Speaker 1: personal and I'm gonna come after you personally. That was
29:52
Speaker 1: not a great look. But many of these twenty others
29:55
Speaker 1: that were involved, it was not about the personal issues.
29:59
Speaker 1: Think goodness. It was about the principaled issues. It was
30:03
Speaker 1: about changing the way we do business. One of the
30:06
Speaker 1: things that was and this is just a perfect example.
30:11
Speaker 1: You have this massive Omnibus Spinning Bill that happened right
30:14
Speaker 1: before you know, Christmas. And in that bill there was
30:17
Speaker 1: something in there that a lot of people would say,
30:20
Speaker 1: why wasn't that debated on its own merit? It was
30:23
Speaker 1: the funding for the war in Ukraine against Russia. There
30:28
Speaker 1: was no debate on it because it was thrown in
30:31
Speaker 1: the omnibus bill and there was no way to separate
30:33
Speaker 1: it out. And what chip Roy and many of these
30:35
Speaker 1: other twenties said it was, they said this, They said, look,
30:39
Speaker 1: we think that a spending measure like funding Ukraine against
30:45
Speaker 1: Russia should have a debate on its own merits. What
30:52
Speaker 1: a novel idea? Right? That's not That shouldn't, by the way,
30:56
Speaker 1: be controversy at all. It shouldn't be in there with
30:58
Speaker 1: discretionary spending. It shouldn't be in there with high raids
31:03
Speaker 1: and roads spending. It shouldn't be in there with other
31:06
Speaker 1: This is a totally separate issue that should be able
31:09
Speaker 1: to either pass or be voted down on its own merits. Now,
31:13
Speaker 1: how much money does that save us? I asked Senator
31:15
Speaker 1: Ted Cruises in our podcast I do with him called Verdict.
31:18
Speaker 1: You should download it listen to it. And I asked
31:20
Speaker 1: him this. I said, you know how much money did
31:23
Speaker 1: we save? He said, potentially trillions of dollars. Certainly hundreds
31:28
Speaker 1: and hundreds of billions of dollars are saved in the
31:30
Speaker 1: five day period just by changing these rules. Because now
31:33
Speaker 1: you can't just throw anything in there you want and
31:36
Speaker 1: say up or down vote. Oh and by the way,
31:39
Speaker 1: you don't know it's in the bill. You can't read
31:40
Speaker 1: the bill. Well, it didn't matter. We just throw it
31:43
Speaker 1: in there, deal with it, pass it. This was one
31:48
Speaker 1: of the best weeks, I would argue in modern political history.
31:56
Speaker 1: This was one of the best weeks that we have
32:00
Speaker 1: had in a very, very, very long time. And I
32:04
Speaker 1: am thrilled that it happened the way that it did.
32:07
Speaker 1: And yeah, there were some people that were doing this
32:09
Speaker 1: for their own personal reasons or grandstanding right, or because
32:13
Speaker 1: they just it was a personal thing. I go back
32:16
Speaker 1: to this, when you're a member of Congress, you need
32:20
Speaker 1: to remind yourself you're not there to represent yourself. You're
32:23
Speaker 1: there to represent your constituents. And if you were one
32:27
Speaker 1: of the twenty and you were there representing your constituents
32:29
Speaker 1: and asking questions I'm gonna have of your constituents, you
32:31
Speaker 1: were doing it for the right reasons. If you were
32:33
Speaker 1: there because you just want to be the thorn the
32:35
Speaker 1: side of someone else because of personal reasons, that was
32:38
Speaker 1: stupid and will always be stupid. So were there people
32:42
Speaker 1: that were brilliant this week, yes? Or there are people
32:44
Speaker 1: this week that were petty, Yes, But overall it was
32:46
Speaker 1: worth it so celebrated. This was a week of massive
32:53
Speaker 1: proportion for the future of our country and we won
32:56
Speaker 1: one finally. Now look the US this week is going
33:00
Speaker 1: to be important. We're going to get to see what
33:02
Speaker 1: the rules package actually says, and that's going to be important.
33:07
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