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Playing catch-up, a month in review · Boxing B-Sides

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The B-side and boxing.
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B-side shit.
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B-side.
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B-side.
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And the B-side.
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You got a B-side.
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The B-side.
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B-side.
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B-side.
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B-side.
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That B-side thing.
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This is the B-Sides Boxing Podcast.
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Don't call it a comeback,
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because did we?
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We didn't fucking leave.
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Boxing B-sides bitches all up in your ears.
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I've been saying earpokes over on the MMA show lately.
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Nice.
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So, been a while.
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So there's a lot that's going on.
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So we're just going to cut straight to business.
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This is just a bit of a review of some stuff that's happened.
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Quite a bit of it.
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But it's going to be mostly top lines.
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Nothing too in the weeds here.
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So we're going to start Saturday, October 26th.
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We're going that far back.
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Jack Cattarall versus Regis Progre.
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Woof.
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Can somebody start?
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Because I'm still at a loss for words for this one.
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I mean, it wasn't fun.
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No.
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It's nothing exciting to talk about, which makes it hard.
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Yeah.
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Do you think Progre's is pretty much done?
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Because I kind of thought he was already done,
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but he keeps getting these fights.
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I think he's a decent gatekeeper.
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That's as far as he's going to go now.
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Yeah.
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The guy's name value, that's pretty much it.
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But yeah, he's relegated to the top of the B, bottom of the A tier.
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It's unfortunate.
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But Cattarall doesn't need to be fighting those guys anymore.
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Oh, Cattarall's not much better.
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Yeah, I was going to say that's kind of the problem for Cattarall.
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He's not a whole lot better than Progre is.
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Yeah, he's probably, yeah, probably
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going to be the same career, honestly, just two gatekeepers.
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Two gatekeepers fighting each other.
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Looking at the top of the list for 140,
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Devin Haney, whatever his faults may be, still holds the title.
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Teofima Lopez has another one.
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Again, flawed character, Liam Paro.
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Subriel Matias, who we'll talk about in a little, maybe a little bit.
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Andy Hiraoka and Arnold Barbosa just had a big night recently.
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It's a tough, tough outings for old Jack.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I tell people if you miss this one, don't bother with it.
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It's a hard sell.
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Moving on, Friday, November 1st is in Belfast.
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Pro Box debut in the UK.
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Patrick McCrory versus Leonard Carrillo and Robbie Debs Jr.
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versus Javier Fortuna both got the points decision.
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They didn't have judges for this.
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I don't understand why when the Brits use the ref
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and when they use the judges.
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Doesn't make sense.
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Pro Box is big enough.
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I would assume they could get judges.
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And McCrory is not a big name, but I've heard of them before.
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Same with Robbie Debs Jr.
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If you're a degenerate that keeps up a bit, even a little bit with the British scene,
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you know who these two are.
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And I expect that they're big names over there.
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Interesting.
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But Javier Fortuna, maybe because he's, I don't know, like three years retired,
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many years removed from his best days.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, that's that.
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Points decision for both of them.
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Congrats, I guess.
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Saturday, November 2nd at the Turning Stone Resort.
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Top rank.
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Oh, I only picked the top three for this one.
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Top ranks, top three fights.
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From the bottom, Ray Morataya stops Jesus Campos in the second.
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I don't know if this was like a confidence booster after the really shaky situation with
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Tevin Farmer.
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But yeah, I got that feeling to like give him a bit of a soft touch.
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Yeah, even though he won.
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Yeah.
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Did he though?
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Did he really?
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Right.
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Abraham Nova split draw with Humberto Galindo.
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Man the Golden Chin.
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Another one.
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That one was actually kind of fun to watch though.
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No?
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Ah, nah.
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That's mid.
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Okay.
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O'Shaqy Foster reclaims his WBC super featherweight title from Hobson Concesa.
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Brazilians use H's instead of R's.
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I think only at the beginning of names.
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Negative.
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They do it.
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It's arbitrary as well.
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All the time?
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It's arbitrary.
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It doesn't make sense.
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Oh, God.
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But this Foster, I guess, I don't know, looked like his usual self.
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I guess he did have a bit more of a sense of urgency.
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So that's cool.
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I thought this one was like a lot closer than the first one.
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I think you could give this one to Concesa if you wanted to.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's...
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I mean, I'm not gonna call it a robbery, but I do think this one was a lot closer than
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the first fight, and I was a little surprised that Foster got it, actually.
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Do you remember if he called out anyone?
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Because in-house, it would be a Nav Valdez winner.
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Seems like it would be the easiest one to make.
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Yeah, it's been a while.
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I don't remember him calling anyone out.
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He did the...
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I think he did the...
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I'll take on anybody.
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Yeah.
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I don't know, whatever, whoever my promoters, managers, or whatever they're called.
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But it's been a while.
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Maybe he called out somebody.
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We'll see if Nav, when he beats Oscar Valdez again, if he calls out Foster.
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Who do you think wins that one?
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Foster or Nav?
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Yeah.
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I go Nav.
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Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with Nav as well.
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Because if Concei Cao can fight you two really close fights, I don't know if you'll be able
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to keep Nav off of you.
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Yeah, I think Navarretta just kind of swarms him.
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I would have before said...
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Before this Concei Cao shenanigan stuff, I would have easily said Foster.
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I wouldn't have thought twice about it, but not so much anymore.
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Moving up, Thursday, November 7th.
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This one was in Quebec in Montreal.
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Eye of the Tiger.
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Only the headliner, Olys Iglesias stops Petro Ivanov in the fifth.
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I highlighted this one.
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Iglesias was that dark horse in the super middleweight division that people were...
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I don't know if they were just not aware of him or what the case is.
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But yeah, this is definitely a guy to keep an eye on if you're not already...
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Yeah, I missed this one.
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I didn't see it at all.
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It's fine.
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All right, moving on to Saturday, November 7th.
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Superreal Matias stops Roberto Ramirez in the second.
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Wasn't pretty.
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I think Ramirez felt the power and just like, he's like, fuck this.
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Yeah.
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Do you think Matias is back?
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Hard to say.
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Two rounds of a guy who was not too keen on being there any longer than he had to be.
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Yeah, it's hard to say.
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And 140 still, like we were talking about with Caterall.
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It's pretty stacked.
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And Matias has, I think, Paro showed his limitations or at the old trademark, the blueprint.
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So you know, if you're a slick type like Devin Haney or Teofimo, that you can keep Matias
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at the end of your reach.
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I think that'll be game.
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They'll just have him flat footing, plotting all night.
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Moving on to the match room card in Philadelphia from the bottom, Austin Williams versus Kian
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Garrido.
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Austin Williams, we're so back, baby.
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He's ammo again.
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So that's cool.
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No more Tiger?
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No, he switched back.
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I think maybe a little bit.
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Where is the Tiger?
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He heard our podcast and how much we hated the nickname change.
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Yeah.
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And how he puts that tail on also.
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Some furry bullshit.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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Austin Williams has shown his limitations as well.
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Sorry, buddy.
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You're going to run out of ammo soon.
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Ray Ford versus Orlando Gonzalez.
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This is Ray Ford's first fight at 130.
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He was OK.
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The commentators were really trying to push this narrative of Ray Ford being more in himself
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full, filled out his frame, not having to cut so much and so that he's more powerful
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and blah, blah, blah.
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No, I don't think so, because otherwise this would have been a stoppage.
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Good effort.
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Yes.
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A for effort for sure.
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Sometimes it takes a couple fights to really get used to the weight.
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Could be.
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OK.
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Bam Rodriguez stops Pedro Guevara in the third.
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So good.
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Yeah.
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Let me.
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I'm trying to think of a good pun or something like get get the fucking get the icing out
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because I'm about to glaze all the whole time.
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Bam is too legit.
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Pedro had to quit.
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Goodness gracious.
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I don't think there's any overstating how fucking special Bam is.
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No.
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And he looked even more special somehow, like his footwork was on point, his punch selection,
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fucking everything.
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It was only three rounds, but he looked perfect.
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The aggression was dialed up a little bit, I noticed.
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I think once he felt what Pedro was throwing at him, eh, no need to worry.
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Sonny Edwards hits harder than that.
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Man oh man.
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I cannot wait for him to get a shot.
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Well, I hope Kosei Tanaka gets his rematch with what was it?
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Kafu?
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I think it was.
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Yeah.
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So those two and then Martinez and Dioka have to settle their score as well.
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But man, like Bam is the complete package.
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Honestly, I think Casito would give Bam a harder fight than Martinez would have.
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Yeah.
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I think Bam just hits too hard for Martinez.
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I think Ioka takes more punishment better.
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And he offers more than just coming forward like Martinez.
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He's a bit of a trademark flatfoot Mexican.
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Just a different flavor of Mexican, I guess.
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But yeah, Bam.
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Tanaka or Kafu, I think they would be fun while it lasts, but it'll be pretty one sided.
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Yeah.
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Everybody's been talking about Bam moving up, which I think he's going to have to.
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I really don't think there's much competition here for him.
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118 isn't much better is the unfortunate thing.
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I want to see him fight Nakatani.
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Oh shit, that's right.
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Nakatani is there.
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Tsutsumi is there.
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Fuck yeah, dude.
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I mean, Bam would pick Punch Burger apart.
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That would just make me sad, I think.
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Takuma is still around.
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Yeah.
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Who else is at 118?
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There's that new guy, right?
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The one that's fighting in Osaka.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I finally got tickets for that.
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Oh, nice.
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Or a ticket, I guess.
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Yeah.
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Literally took me three weeks to figure out how to buy a ticket.
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I'm excited to see him.
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I will report back on whether I think Bam beats him in five rounds or seven rounds.
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Yoshiki Takei needs to be punished for jabbing Daigo Higa.
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Yeah.
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Bam could do that.
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Yes.
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Jason Maloney, that would be, I don't know, whatever.
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Yeah, mid.
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It's a good name, I guess, to pick up, but...
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Maybe a test fight at 118?
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Emanuel Rodriguez as well.
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Those are two good tests.
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Alejandro Santiago, the guy who Nakatani got his belt off of.
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That's not a bad one.
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Oh, shit.
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Sri Siket Sirungasai is still fighting.
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He's at 118.
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You want to get your ass beat again?
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We're getting into the territory of where you have to start, like, go higher and higher
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and put more and more physical disadvantages just to make the fights competitive.
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But I really want to see Bam and Nakatani.
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Everybody's been talking about Bam jumping that weight class and fighting in a way, but
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he has to fight Nakatani first.
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Or at least Takuma, at the very least.
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Yeah, I think Bam hurts Takuma.
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But you got to set up the story.
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Beat up the brother.
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Then fucking feed poor Takuma to the wolves.
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Sacrifice.
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This is your shame for losing.
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Yeah, we're looking at a generational guy here.
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This is like Chocolatito like 10 years ago.
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It's the same type of shit.
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Well, that's the other rumor, right?
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Yeah.
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Bam and Chocolatito?
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Yeah.
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But I think Roman didn't want to he didn't want to fight Bam until they had like a little
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mini camp together for the Estrada fight.
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And then he's like, oh, well, that's not so bad.
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I think I think Roman gets done pretty dirty, though.
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He's he's on the older side.
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Yeah.
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And moving up to the main event, Jaron Ennis UD over Karen Chukadzian.
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I tried to remember that one.
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Karen, he wins the story of the night.
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Instead of stinking it out and going the distance, he despite being on the very clearly losing
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side of it, still had put in a valiant effort and still went the distance with Boots fucking
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Ennis.
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That is actually saying a lot.
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What are your thoughts on this one, Drip?
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Isn't Boots your hometown fighter?
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Oh, kind of wish he had a better opponent.
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Like, I don't know.
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I think this fight was really necessary.
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But I don't know if you guys saw this is a little off topic, but I think the post fight
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pressure Blair Cobbs like tried to crash it, asking for a fight with Boots.
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And him and Eddie Hearn got into a little bit.
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It was kind of funny.
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I was thinking about Boots versus Blair Cobbs would just be unnecessary.
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Like for everybody.
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It would be unnecessary.
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But the Blair Cobbs buildups are always fun.
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Remember that random ass.
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Wait, was it Blair Cobbs or Rashidi Ellis that was on that random ass card in like Boston?
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It had to be Blair Cobbs.
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It had to be.
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I think it was that would not go well.
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I think Karen would turned in a better performance here than Blair Cobbs would against.
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Yeah, for sure.
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I don't know.
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I think for the character, I was kind of just meh.
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Nothing.
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It's a little dirty.
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I'll say that Boots seemed kind of like he was getting frustrated.
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Oh, yeah.
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Well, maybe your dad was shitting fucking in your ear.
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You need to knock him out, bro.
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Knock him out, bro.
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Yeah.
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I know Boots was having a bad night or what, but he seemed a little.
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It didn't seem like he was doing that well.
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You know what I mean?
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As well as you'd expect for Boots, right?
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Yeah.
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Like you probably should be able to get Karen out there relatively easily.
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So I don't know.
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The fight to me was kind of just meh.
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Nothing.
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I was just more taken back how Boots struggled a little bit.
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I thought I'd get him out there faster, but I guess that kind of now torches that question
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of Boots versus Bud.
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How that really goes down.
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Yeah, not so much.
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Not so interesting anymore.
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No.
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But like I said, maybe maybe Boots had a bad night.
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I'll kind of just give my pass on that.
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Everyone has a bad night once in a while.
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I mean, for example, Triple G versus Dervachenko had a bad night.
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Still won, barely, but just seemed like he had a bad night.
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Dervachenko makes everybody have a bad night, though.
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Even one armed ancient Dervachenko.
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Yeah.
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Well, I don't know.
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We'll see what's next for Boots.
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Hopefully not Blarcobs.
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Preferably not that one.
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That would definitely be a step back.
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So we'll be talking about this next time, but Mario Barrios recently defended his belt
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fucking.
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Barnburner a lot more competitive than you would have expected given Abel Ramos.
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But so we got Barrios, Staniunis, Brian Norman.
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Those are the other three champions.
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I don't think any of them I could see Boots stopping.
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Brian Norman.
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Yes.
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Fucking nobody.
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He has the WBO belt as tradition.
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Yeah, I do not recognize this guy's face at all.
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I have no idea who this man is.
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He beat Giovanni Sant'Anne to a pulp to win the belt, if I recall correctly.
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Looks like on the box rec, really short recap, says Sant'Anne down twice in round 10.
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Yep.
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I just...
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Obviously, I'm a bit of a casual, but I do not recognize this man at all.
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I usually recognize the champion's faces.
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All right.
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This is a bit more of a drip question.
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Hello.
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Knowing that Drip is a bit of an MMA fan, just as much as boxing, this was a good crossover
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question.
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I will leave Drip to describe it.
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That is a very hot take.
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So if you want to hear this type of hot take and all of the other nonsensical shit that
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Get yourself signed up for the boxing tier or the combat combo tiers for both MMA and
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And there you go.
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You'll get yourself access to very dumb takes like mine.
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Enjoy.
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That would be a banger then.
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That would be a really good one.
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Barrios would probably get sparked.
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So that's cool.
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I like Mario Barrios, but he is not the best boxer for sure.
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No, not really.
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He needs to pay for stealing my woman.
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That's it for the Drone NS card, though, unless you have anything else.
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No, sir.
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Last one.
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Guillermo Rigandao.
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We're back, baby.
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Sparks this guy and one.
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Dennis Aguero takes one shot to the fucking liver, crumples like a baby.
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Bad, bad, bad, bad.
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Safe to say at Super Bansomweight, Rigo sparks everyone.
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Oh, I can't see my face.
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I was really trying to have like a cheeky expression.
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Does Rigo have like face scars from his accident?
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I didn't see this.
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Yeah, they're not that noticeable, especially with the Vaseline there.
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But yes, he does.
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Because it seems well, they must have healed up better than they were originally predicting.
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But when he first exploded, it was him that exploded the pressure cooker in his face,
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right?
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Yes.
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And burnt his eyes really bad.
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They didn't think he was going to be able to see very well afterwards.
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Yeah, one of them was they thought he was going to lose it.
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Yeah.
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And then the next thing I heard was like 80 percent vision in the right eye or something.
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Either the doctors aren't doing a very good job, which would not be a surprise, or he
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healed up much better than the doctors thought he would.
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He's a Cuban 44.
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So I don't know what the fuck they're putting in the water down there, but he still looks
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like he's 34.
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I got out of Cuba.
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Yeah, no shit.
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Just bring a power generator or some kind.
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Hi-yo.
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That's it for the recaps.
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We got that done a lot quicker than I thought we would.
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God damn it, Rigo.
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I have a slightly off topic one that maybe isn't going to fit.
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But why the fuck is Paro fighting in Puerto Rico?
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Where is he fighting?
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Yeah, Puerto Rico again.
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I don't understand.
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They love him there.
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I'm sure they do.
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You fight where you fight, but it doesn't make any sense to me.
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Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
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The way that they're framing it is he's returning to the scene of the crime as if he's robbed
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Matias or something.
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I don't know if that's the implication that they're trying to give.
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But yeah.
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Because he didn't.
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No, he didn't crime anything.
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That was not a robbery.
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That was like...
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He's just going back there to say he can do it twice.
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Send me another one of your champions and I'll beat him too.
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Yeah, pretty much.
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It seems so weird to me and I feel kind of bad for him.
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You should get to fight in front of people that like you.
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Sometimes you got to be the villain before you be the hero.
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Yeah, that's true.
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All right.
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Something that we'll be talking about later or next time is actually related to Puerto
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Rico.
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Matias was their best guy, but has he been usurped ousted by the fucking smallest?
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That's it.
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I'm going to put the caps here.
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I demand somewhere in this, Leo, you play the boys are back in town.
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Sure.
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I'll play it in the beginning.
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One of my favorite songs.
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I did a figure skating routine to it when I was a child.
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That's great.
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Yeah, I really liked Trooper.
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My dad had like a cassette, so I did a bunch of figure skating routines to different Trooper
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songs.
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Do we do we need parting words?
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Fucking you know what?
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My parting words are is hindsight is 2020.
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I always knew Boots was a fucking bum.
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Yeah.
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Jokes and jokes.
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All right, that's it.
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We'll see you next time.
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Fucking beloved listeners.
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