Latest / In Focus with Carolyn Hutcheson / Flagg Mountain - TPR's In Focus - March 4, 2026
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- 0:09to the Wiregrass region.
- 0:11More information at troy.edu slash Wiregrass Archives.
- 0:16From Troy Public Radio, this is In Focus,
- 0:22and I'm Carolyn Hutcheson.
- 0:24Flag Mountain in Coosa County has a tower
- 0:28that's on the National Historic Lookout Register.
- 0:32Forestry Management Specialist, Brad Dunham,
- 0:36reports on the Alabama Forestry Commission's restoration
- 0:40of the CCC Tower atop the southernmost
- 0:44Appalachian Peak in Alabama.
- 0:47Our conversation is part of our Back to Nature series.
- 0:51♪♪
- 0:56Brad Dunham, I want to welcome you
- 0:58to Troy Public Radio's In Focus.
- 1:00Thank you, Ms. Carolyn.
- 1:02Since spring is the perfect time to visit Flag Mountain,
- 1:06can you give us a little of its history?
- 1:08Flag Mountain is commonly known as the first mountain
- 1:12in Alabama, or Alabama's first mountain,
- 1:14coming from the Gulf northward.
- 1:16It's the first mountain to reach 1,000 feet
- 1:19above sea level.
- 1:21The tower at Flag is at 1,135 feet above sea level.
- 1:26The observation tower is a 50-foot stone tower
- 1:30that was built in the 1930s.
- 1:32I'm pretty sure it was completed in 1935 by the CCC.
- 1:37And they also completed five cabins during that time.
- 1:41So there are five cabins on Flag Mountain
- 1:43and the stone observation tower.
- 1:45We are talking about a landmark in Coosa County.
- 1:49You have been working on that tower.
- 1:52What have you been finding?
- 1:54The construction of the tower is amazing.
- 1:57When we had the steps redone,
- 2:00the architects and everybody set up
- 2:02like laser levels inside the tower,
- 2:05and it was perfectly square to within a quarter of an inch.
- 2:09So we're talking a hundred years later,
- 2:11everything up there is just,
- 2:12the stonework is just amazing.
- 2:14What was the tower built for originally?
- 2:17It was built as a fire tower to spot wildfires.
- 2:21We're talking the Civilian Conservation Corps.
- 2:25The construction you're saying is almost perfect.
- 2:28It is, it's really amazing.
- 2:30I think the walls are three to four foot thick
- 2:33on the bottom, just solid rock walls, four foot thick.
- 2:36It's a really neat sight to see.
- 2:38Can people actually go up in the tower?
- 2:42Yes, since we've had the steps reworked,
- 2:45the tower's open seven days a week.
- 2:47So you can ride up to Flagg, park in the lower parking lot,
- 2:51walk up the new approach trail,
- 2:54and go all the way up to the top of the tower.
- 2:56You know, Brad, so many of these fire towers are metal,
- 3:00but you're talking solid rock.
- 3:03Can you sort of describe what that looks like?
- 3:06Yeah, if any of the listeners have been to Mount Cheahaw,
- 3:08the tower up there, it's similar to it.
- 3:11It's just a solid rock tower,
- 3:1450 feet tall, and it's just an amazing structure.
- 3:17So you've been up in that tower many times.
- 3:20When you look out from the top of the tower,
- 3:22what do you see?
- 3:24You can see this forest land, as far as you can see,
- 3:27is just forested in probably four or five different counties.
- 3:30Vast forest, longleaf pine forest,
- 3:33and hardwood forest also.
- 3:35And as a registered forester, you're out in the woods a lot.
- 3:39Is there anything significant about those woods
- 3:43around that Penhody Trail and the tower
- 3:46that maybe are historically significant?
- 3:49Oh, yes, absolutely.
- 3:51Especially the longleaf pine.
- 3:53You know, at one time, longleaf dominated
- 3:55as much as 92 million acres.
- 3:59And in 1985, we were down to less than 4 million acres.
- 4:03But through some restoration efforts,
- 4:06the last 40 years, we've increased longleaf acreage
- 4:10up to 5 million acres.
- 4:11So currently, there's around 5 million acres
- 4:13of longleaf pine.
- 4:15The longleaf that flag are actually montane longleaf.
- 4:18So they're a little different than the longleaf
- 4:21that grow on the coastal plain.
- 4:23Montane longleaf are actually some of the most
- 4:26endangered longleaf that we have left.
- 4:28So really, the Alabama Forestry Commission
- 4:31is helping preserve a historic tree, right?
- 4:35Yes, we are taking steps to preserve those trees
- 4:38and make the habitat more suitable for their regeneration
- 4:42so we can keep them around for years to come.
- 4:44I have seen some montane longleaf up in North Alabama.
- 4:47So is this a mountain tree?
- 4:50It is.
- 4:51They grow on the steep, rocky slopes up in the mountains.
- 4:54You're surrounded by the Weagufka State Forest.
- 4:57And are these montane longleaf in that forest as well?
- 5:01They are.
- 5:03The Weagufka State Forest is a 240-acre state forest
- 5:07owned by the Alabama Forestry Commission.
- 5:09Brad, hiking through the woods, the Penhody Trail,
- 5:13what kind of wildlife do you see?
- 5:15You're going to see white-tailed deer and eastern turkey,
- 5:19without a doubt.
- 5:20Gray squirrels, there's a lot of squirrels, turkey, and deer.
- 5:23The southern terminus of the Penhody
- 5:25was actually moved to the observation tower at Flagg.
- 5:29So you're saying that the terminus of a connecting trail
- 5:34to the world-famous Appalachian Trail
- 5:36is right there at Flagg Mountain?
- 5:38The southern terminus is, yes, ma'am.
- 5:40It's known as mile 0.0.
- 5:42So if you're starting your hike on the Penhody,
- 5:44you will start at Flagg Mountain.
- 5:46Or if you're headed southbound,
- 5:48you'll end at Flagg Mountain, at the tower.
- 5:50How much of the Penhody Trail,
- 5:54how many miles of that trail connect to the AT in Alabama?
- 5:59Okay, in Alabama, there is 171 miles.
- 6:03It ties into the Georgia Penhody,
- 6:06which is 164 miles, for a total of 335 miles
- 6:11for the Penhody Trail.
- 6:12To your knowledge, the history of the Penhody Trail,
- 6:16was there a trail there that the Native Americans used?
- 6:19I mean, is this a pattern after that?
- 6:22I'm sure it is.
- 6:22The name Penhody is actually a Native American term.
- 6:27So if you're on the Penhody Trail,
- 6:30and as I've read, it means turkey home
- 6:32in the Muskogean language.
- 6:34But if you're on the trail-
- 6:36As I've seen, blue blazes,
- 6:38it's sort of like dipping an eraser,
- 6:41like you'd see at school, into blue paint,
- 6:43and you put it on a tree.
- 6:45Is that how you know where you are on the trail?
- 6:48Yes, that's correct.
- 6:49If you see the blue blaze,
- 6:50there's a certain blue designated for the Penhody Trail.
- 6:54So as long as you're following that blue blaze,
- 6:56you'll stay on the Penhody.
- 6:57And the logo for the Penhody is what?
- 7:01It's a turkey foot, yep.
- 7:03In the area that you serve
- 7:05with the Alabama Forestry Commission,
- 7:08what are some of the significant parts of Coosa County
- 7:11that your listeners might want to know more about?
- 7:14Hatchet Creek is really popular.
- 7:16If you're into kayaking or canoeing,
- 7:18and the Cahaba Lilies,
- 7:20everybody should take a trip down Hatchet
- 7:22in a kayak or canoe and see those.
- 7:24The Cahaba Lilies are spectacular in the late spring.
- 7:28But back to what you've been working on
- 7:31with Historic Flag Mountain,
- 7:34what facilities are available to the public?
- 7:37The five cabins, they're available.
- 7:39You can rent overnight.
- 7:41We're allowing hikers to stay in the cabins now.
- 7:44So you can come start your hike at the tower,
- 7:47hike down to the cabin,
- 7:48spend the night and continue your hike.
- 7:50The tower's also open.
- 7:52Everyone should go up to the top and look out of the tower.
- 7:55It's amazing.
- 7:56And you're saying water is there now, is that right?
- 7:59Yes, and that's one of our biggest projects.
- 8:02We now have city water from Stewartville.
- 8:05We have a dependable water source
- 8:06that's going to open a lot of different avenues for us.
- 8:09We're looking at doing some bath houses
- 8:11and shower facilities and stuff like that in the future
- 8:14since we have that dependable public water source.
- 8:17How many years have you been working
- 8:19on the Flag Mountain Tower?
- 8:21I've been with the Alabama Forestry Commission for 10 years
- 8:25and probably half of that, we've been at Flag.
- 8:28Over the last five years,
- 8:29we've been doing a lot of work up there.
- 8:31In the work that you've been doing,
- 8:32have you discovered anything unusual
- 8:35besides the construction?
- 8:37Not really unusual,
- 8:38just amazed at the craftsmanship that the CCC guys had.
- 8:43You know, with very limited tools back in the 30s,
- 8:46they didn't have all the modern tools we have now
- 8:48and the construction's just perfect.
- 8:50Can you tell us how to get in touch
- 8:52for more information about Flag Mountain?
- 8:56Yes, they can visit our website
- 8:58forestry.alabama.gov
- 9:01and there's a link for the Weagufka State Forest.
- 9:04And on that website,
- 9:05you can see a photograph
- 9:07of that historic Flag Mountain Tower.
- 9:11Brad, thank you for your time today.
- 9:13Thank you, I appreciate that.
- 9:15Joining us from Flag Mountain
- 9:17in Coosa County's Weagufka State Forest
- 9:20for our Back to Nature series
- 9:22was Brad Dunham, Forestry Management Specialist
- 9:26with the Alabama Forestry Commission.
- 9:29More information can be found
- 9:30at the forestry.alabama.gov website.
- 9:35Thanks for joining us for In Focus,
- 9:38which is a podcast wherever you get your podcasts.
- 9:41I'm Carolyn Hutcheson
- 9:43and this is listener-supported Troy Public Radio.