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Ring III and Top Rank's Xander Zayas · Boxing B-Sides

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me like twice this week. Sucks to be them. Yeah,
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we might be getting a... A new voice on Before
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Dark. I'm excited. I hope it works out. Yeah,
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I think it will. Who's the... Are you allowed
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to say who's the new voice? Australian Jacob.
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Terramoana Jab. Terramoana? Yeah. Pretty good,
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huh? Yeah, the time zones just work out a lot
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better than England. Because me and him are almost
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the same time. And then Leo just has to... adapt
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for us it's fine um there was also some mma but
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you'll have to check out ultimate effing casuals
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if you want to hear more about that just because
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oh speaking of the discord and mma um uh is it
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zoe i think it's zoe me and zoe have started
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watching the friday night fights from one fc
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and being active in the chat It's pretty fun.
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Oh, man. Finally. I talk about them all the time.
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I'm waiting for people to kick us into the MMA
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thread or room or whatever the fuck they're called
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in Discord, but they haven't done it yet, so
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we'll see. Well, if you're Night Crew, then...
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Yeah, there's less rules, Night Crew. It's mostly
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Zo and me and Vom. so Vom doesn't care. Yeah.
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I thought you were going to bring up Connor versus
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the Muckalai. Oh, yeah, the picture. Connor McWheener.
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Oh, man. I have not seen the unedited picture,
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and I don't want to. I haven't either. I've seen
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it. I'm getting the sense, just because a follow
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-up that people have been posting is tying a
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weight to a string. And attaching that to your
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piece. And that's what people are saying after
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they see McGregor's piece. That he does that
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for fun? To extend it, I think? Ridiculous. Honestly,
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I don't even know why they put it in the picture,
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Doug. Did they just show off, I think? We should
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have a new boxing show. Talk about fighters.
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Wing wings. Yep. There's a surprising amount
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of them that you can see if you want to. Yep.
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Boxers are dirty, dirty motherfuckers, I'll tell
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you. Some of them are just some dirty, dirty
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motherfuckers. Nasty. No, I mean, if you're in
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Discord, do you see Roy's on a daily basis? Oh,
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yeah. If you want to know what we mean by seeing
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Roy on a daily basis, you're going to have to
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join Discord. RoyBonesJr. Slash Discord. All
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right. Let's get into a little bit of women's
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boxing. Because on July 11th, Netflix, most valuable
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promotions, fucking Jake Paul does it again.
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Delivers another fucking scorcher. This was a
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surprisingly good card. Yeah. A lot of decisions.
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I mean, what do you... It's a women's card. It's
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women's balking. You're going to get that. But
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still, it was a good card. Let's just go from
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the bottom up. I don't... Tam Tibble, I think
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it is. Stops Mary. Casamassa in the fifth. Ramla
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Ali, UD over Lila Furtado. This was a bit of
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a robbery. Was it? Wasn't it? Am I mixing them
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up? Ali did not win that fight. Even she was
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surprised. Is she related to the world famous?
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Maybe that's why they dropped somebody. Ramla
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Ali does have a really good backstory. I think
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that's why they push her so hard. She's a refugee
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and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I remember who you're
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talking about now. Yeah. Just went completely
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blank on her for a second. But, like, back me
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up. That was a robbery. Like, a pretty clear
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robbery. Ramla leaves the house. I probably got
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the nod from, like, before the card started.
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Like, hey, this is our girl, so... Yeah, I'm
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sure that's what happened. But, like... She's
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not that good, and they're really, really pushing
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her because they're gonna make a movie at some
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point. Like, refugee girl gets into boxing after
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moving to the UK. Yada, yada, yada. From Mogadishu.
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Yeah. She made some borderline racist comment
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about how even the Mexican judges saw that she
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won, except, like, I'm pretty sure... for tato's
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brazilian so like anyway yeah she's brazilian
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yeah um interim wbc super lightweight title chantelle
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cameron pulls it off over jessica camara fun
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uh sure real quick yeah go ahead yeah i didn't
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watch this card Okay. It's all right. I tried
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washing it too. I turned it off. That's all right.
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We'll bring you back in for the ring three. Yeah.
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Sharnika Johnson, Neeks, stops Sharetta Metcalf
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in the ninth. I believe this was a undisputed
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unification. This was the final fight to make
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the four -piece crown. Yeah. This was a pretty
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good fight, though. Or I thought it was pretty
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good. I missed Sharnika. She was one of the main
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ones on the undercard I wanted to see. Is this
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an upset? Shadesha Green over Savannah Marshall.
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Yes, it is. And I'm the only one who picked her
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in the pick lead. I picked Savannah Marshall.
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Everybody. Why did you pick different? Because
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I don't think Savannah Marshall's that good,
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to be honest. Unless you're British, most people's
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exposure to her is just the Clarissa Shields
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fight, I would expect. Yeah, I think I've seen
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a few of her fights. I watch a lot of those British
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cards, but I just... Shadeza Green's got more
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power. Yeah. I thought she was going to hurt
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her, and... I think that's what happened. She
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hurt her and then Savannah Marshall's output
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went down. Alicia Baumgartner turns in a performance.
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One of the performances of her entire career.
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Not that good of one. Yeah, against Jennifer
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Miranda. Undisputed Super Featherweight title
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was on the line. Or championship was on the line.
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Fucking... You got to keep your stuff. Congratulations.
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Would not recommend this fight. I actually thought
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this one was going to be fun and it was not.
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I expected it would have been just because Baumgartner
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is like that. Yeah. Three belt unification at
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super bantamweight. Ellie Scottney beats Yamileth
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Mercado. I didn't see this one. It was alright.
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It was what you expect from women's boxing. Yeah.
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Not to be that person, but not that exciting.
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You know what else wasn't that exciting? Very
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surprisingly, Katie Taylor versus Amanda Serrano.
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Katie Taylor wins once again. This was a lot
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more convincing. I'm surprised. that this was
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a majority decision. I don't know how you could
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score to draw, personally. I think they really
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wanted Amanda Serrano to win this one. Like,
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they. The boxing they. Yeah. MVP? Probably. If
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nobody else. I'm already hearing rumors about
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a fourth. Nobody wants that. This is done. Both
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of them said in their post -fight interviews
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that they didn't want to. Yeah, I just mean,
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like, the internet has... That's dumb. Taylor
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won all of them. Like, just... Whether you think
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she's not that good or not, she won. So, deal
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with it. Is she in any current fighter? Yeah,
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I'm pretty sure Katie Taylor is. Yeah. Anything
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more for Ladies' Night? I said before, and I
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stand by it, I don't like the all -women's cards.
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Yeah, people are going to watch for the rest
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of the year. Yeah, there's that. And it's just
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way better if you mix them. Like, even it...
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A lot of women's fights are not that exciting.
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And when you try and fill a whole card, you end
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up with a lot of not very exciting fights. Just...
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But... I mean, that happens on men's cards, too.
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It's not just women's cards. But it's better
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if it's mixed, I think. Yeah, I agree. Let's
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skip the Ring 3 really quick to talk about Pro
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Box at the Safe Martirina in Fresno. A bunch
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of stuff happened. I picked it up here. Carlos
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Balderas. Gets the stoppage. Fucking last second
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over Salvador Brisseno. Fucking Lux Media favorite
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Katsuma Akitsugi. UD over Jonas Sultan. Jonas
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was tough. Yeah. But I think it was very clearly
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Akitsugi took over about round six, maybe. Yeah,
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I was going to say like four or five. But yeah,
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regardless. Yeah. Akitsugi continues to look
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good. They're not all going to be stoppages.
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Well, those two stoppages on Pro Box before are
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the only two knockouts of his entire career.
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That's right. One of my personal favorites, Senbatar
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Erdenabat. It's a UD over Humberto Galindo. Erdenabat.
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I think that the height reach was bothering him
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a bit. It took him a little bit of time to figure
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it out. I think this is not the most exciting
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performance or the most flashy, but he got the
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job done. He'll be better for the experience,
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I'll say, having the faith in Zemmatar. I walked
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away from my screen for Eric Badillo versus Gerardo
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Zapata. Did you watch this? No, I actually haven't
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got the last two fights yet. I didn't know I
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was going to be on the podcast today. Ah, well.
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I was going to watch them in time for our podcast.
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Yeah. Francisco Verón versus Vladimir Hernandez.
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Vladimir... Day late, dollar short. pretty much
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every step of the way from the beginning. It
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was unfortunate because I like Vlad, but... Just
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an overall schooling? Yeah, I would say that
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would be the category to put it in. I wouldn't
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call it one of the schoolings of the year yet,
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but it's a good one. But, once again, Probox
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delivers. Absolutely. When I saw this card, it
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was all pretty fun. Yeah. Balderas. I was really
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happy to see him get a stoppage. Alright. On
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to ring three at the Louis Armstrong Stadium
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in Queens, New York. Fucking bottom up. Here
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we go. Reito Tsutsumi stops Michael Ruiz in the
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second. This is the house fighter. From his debut
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to now, he's signed to the ring, I guess, as
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the promotional entity that it is now. I missed
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this one. I didn't wake up early enough. It was
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pretty good. Got him out. I do think Rayito's
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the better of the two brothers, for sure. Hayato's
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kind of mid, in my opinion, to be honest. I only
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know his name because you know his name. Yeah.
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He often fights on the Ioka cards. Almost always.
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David Morel. Split decision? Question mark? over
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Imam Khatiaf. Honestly, I'm still thinking about
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it, honestly. Because as much as I would like
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to say that Morel deserved it, he did not. I
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believe that Imam Khatiaf won the fight. It was
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a pretty close fight, first of all. So I wouldn't
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say it's a robbery. per se too close to fight
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two color robbery however i believe they did
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favor morel just because i mean it's morel there's
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an unknown unknown russian guy but i did a mom
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kate gave david morel the hardest fight in his
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career craze crazy to say that but yeah when
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he's coming he's coming off of benavidez he's
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coming off of benavidez he did he knocked him
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down so we better be just gonna do So the thing
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is that I don't want to say that Morel didn't
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take the fight seriously because I believe he
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did. But I don't think he took this fight as
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seriously as the David Benavidez fight. I see
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what you mean. He was doing some dumb things
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in there. That's how he got knocked down, being
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a fucking idiot. Yeah, he was being a dumb motherfucker
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and got knocked out. Or got knocked down. And
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I don't know how... Imam Khatia really lost.
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I think it was 115 -113. Right? It's a 10 -rounder,
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so 95 -94 for him. Yeah, so 95 -94, which I don't
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know. It just don't sound right to me. That would
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be a draw, except for the knockdown. Yeah. The
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95 -94s are... but that 96 -93 with the knockdown,
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that judge only gave Katya three rounds. That's
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a madness scorecard in my opinion. I think at
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most it should have been a draw. It should have
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been a draw. It can't be a draw because there
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was a knockdown. It would be very hard to make
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it a draw. That would be pretty tough. Well,
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they could have found a way because honestly,
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it deserved a good draw because Emerald did not
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deserve that one. That win, in my opinion. I'm
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kind of glad he won. But at the same time, I'm
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not. Because, I mean, I really do think that
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Imam Khatia should have won. Yeah, I think they
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should do it again. I'd watch it again. It was
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a fun fight. It was a fun fight, but I also think
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that David Morel, all the fighters, we'll get
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to this right now. I'll talk about it at the
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end. I think all the fighters were also encouraged
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to not, quote -unquote, do the Tom and Jerry
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running. You know? I don't think these two would
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have anyways, would they? I think David Murrell
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should have boxed better. The thing is that David
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Murrell was doing really good on the inside,
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but I think he found his kind of neat, what's
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the word, kind of on the game plan a little too
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late because at the end he was rope -a -doping.
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He was sitting on the ropes and then would counter.
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and I think he did a pretty good job doing that
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to the point where I think if it went two more
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rounds, he could have knocked him out. But it's
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a shame that this was a 10 -rounder, you know?
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Yeah. I think it deserved two more rounds, for
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sure. But we'll never know how it goes again,
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because I doubt that Muriel's going to do a rematch
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with this guy. They're not going to take it.
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It was too hard to fight. Yeah. High risk, low
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reward. I think... Katya's stock went up with
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this one, though. I'm pretty sure. Dramatically.
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And I know that on the last podcast, it was me
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and Isaac and Leo. I don't know. Which one of
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you guys said it was going to be an easier fight?
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I did. I know. Were you surprised? Were you surprised
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when you saw it? Yes. I thought this was supposed
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to be a get back for David Morrell. Like, you
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had the... A tough fight with Benavidez. You
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want to get back in the win column, and you want
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to have something emphatic to kind of reestablish
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your confidence in yourself. So that's what I
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thought Imam Katsaev was, was a guy who's tough.
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He looks tough on paper, but who really is this
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guy anyway? He's never fought outside of fucking
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Russia or Serbia. I wasn't expecting much, but
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I'm very pleasantly surprised. I didn't want
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to see him again. I'd like to. He's been fighting
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out of Canada. He must be associated with, uh,
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what's his name? Who's the right? Arthur better
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be a eye of the butthole. Well, I mean, he's
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been fighting in Montreal and Quebec and he's
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Russian. So I assume he has some sort of connection.
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Trying to remember the name of the dude. Is it
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not? Oh, yeah. I don't know the trainer's names
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and stuff. But, like, it is Arthur Beterbiev,
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right? That's in Canada now? Yeah. I assume they
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have some sort of connection. Because why else
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would Russians go boxing Montreal? Of all places.
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Yeah. Yeah. Anything more for this one? Nope.
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All right. Subrio Matias. Majority decision over
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Alberto Puello. Loses his WBC title. Subrio Matias
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is a champion once again. This was a bit controversial.
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Yeah, I was going to say. This was like a game
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of two halves, right? Where Matias... How did
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you see it playing out? You know, I believe that
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I do think that Matias did deserve the win. It
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was also a very close, hard -fought fight. But
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the thing is that, and you're right, that the
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first half that Matias dominated, he dominated
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pretty hard. I would say starting round eight
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is when he started slowing down considerably.
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And so all those rounds, I think, went to play
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after about round eight. I don't know. It's just...
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This was a very good fight, by the way. Not to
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mention, this was a very fun fight. Except it's
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just... I don't know. I don't think it's a robbery.
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I think Matias did deserve the win. But that's
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my opinion. In the beginning, too. Yeah. While
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they were still kind of figuring each other out.
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Matias did have more success, though. You're
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right. It's not so one -sided. Like... front
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and back on the scorecards like I kind of thought
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it was too it it was rounds three to seven that
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Matias really won a lot of people gave one to
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um Pueo yeah me too but Matias won round 10 on
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every scorecard and I think that made a big difference
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and he won round nine on the two scorecards he
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won so it was actually round nines and ten that
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won him the fight The thing with Matias, I would
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say, is that he implemented his game very well.
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And honestly, I'm kind of happy that his stock
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went back up. Because, I mean, Matias is not
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a boring fighter. He always brings the fight,
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you know? I like Matias. He's fun. Whereas Puello,
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I mean, I think Puello's an exciting fighter
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to an extent. However, I think, I don't like
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that he lost the last fight, in my opinion. And
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that he got a decision. They robbed my boy Sandor
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again. Yeah. They keep giving him decisions.
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Pueo, you know. I don't know. I'm kind of happy
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that... And this is not to Pueo because Pueo
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is a boss. He deserves respect. But it's more
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so like the promotional company that they just
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kept doing bullshit, you know, robberies. You
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know, allegedly. Close decisions always going
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to Pueo. Yeah. And so I'm kind of glad that it's
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in a different hands. Honestly, I would love
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to see Mateus fight someone else besides Donald
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Smith. Oh, God, they had it there. I forgot about
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that. Oh, yeah, I did too. That's... Dude, nobody
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wants to see that shit. Nobody wants to see that.
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I don't think it mattered who won. No, it didn't.
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Dalton Smith was getting the winner of this fight.
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I kind of hope Matias, like, KOs him early. I
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will say that I think that the whole debacle
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with Dalton Smith is just pretty funny to see
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live because I don't know exactly how it went,
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but wasn't Matias saying, like, no, I don't want
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to fight? And then Turkey was like, yes, you
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will fight my brother. Something like that, yeah.
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I think Matias was just confused. You wouldn't
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fight my brother. You wouldn't fight Dalton Smith.
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That's obviously a favor to Eddie Hearn. That's
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the only way I see it. Or whoever promotes Dalton
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Smith. I'm pretty sure Eddie Hearn promotes Dalton
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Smith, right? I think so. Sounds right. Yeah,
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so I'm pretty sure it's a favor to Eddie Hearn
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that he's fighting Dalton Smith. Is Dalton Smith
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really the number one? Contender? It don't seem
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like it. For the WBC belt? Yeah, for the WBC.
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Dalton Smith hasn't... If he is, he doesn't deserve
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it. What's his best win? Like in Way Over the
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Hill, Jose Zepeda? Like, who the fuck has he...
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No, but really, like, look at his record. Who
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the hell is Matthew Germain or Wally Uiza? Wally
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Wheeler. Who the hell is he? Sam Maxwell. Billy
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Allington. Tommy Noogie. Like, random nude. Dalton
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Smith is number one. Sandra Martin. Isaac Cruz.
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Arnold Barbosa. Liam Parrow. But the WBC is crazy.
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Yeah. Dalton Smith does not deserve that ranking.
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He has beaten fucking nobody. Literally, the
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only name on his resume I recognize is Jose Zepeda,
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and he fought him in 2024. I love Jose Zepeda,
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but in 2024, he was not good. Another thing,
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too, I think that San Ramon should get another
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shot at the final eliminator if he is ranked
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number two. I don't think that Dalton Smith really
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became the mandatory, right? He didn't fight
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a final eliminator, right? He didn't fight an
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eliminator. He has the WBC silver. For whatever
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that counts. It's a glorified mandatory challenger
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spot. He beat some fucking weirdo from Quebec.
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Like... This is like some WB... Not WB, like
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IBF shit right here. This is not WBC. I mean,
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that kind of shows you the standing of the division.
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Sander Martin... Fucking outpoints Dalton Smith
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all night, every night, seven days a week. Lin
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in shambles. Lin knows it's true. What happened
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to Gary Antoine Russell in the rankings, dude?
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He has the WBA belt, so he doesn't get put into
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their rankings. But he fought for the WBC, right?
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The WBC. He did, yes. That's what I'm saying.
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Maybe he just stopped paying for it or something,
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dude, but I don't know. I think that... I think
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Matias and Gary Antoine Russell should do a unification
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bout. That would be a really fun fight. I think
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Matias loses that one. Yeah, I don't know. I
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don't know, because... I mean, Gary Antoine Russell
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is a hard fighter to fight against, but... Matias
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always has a puncher's chance, for sure. That,
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but Matias always comes forward, dude. He doesn't
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go back. Ryo went back. Boyle went back. You
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know, all these other guys that fought GAR went
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back. But Matias, I know for sure, will not fight
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on the back foot because he can't even fight
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on the front foot that well. He can do it okay.
28:57
Anything more for Superhero Matias? I hope he
29:03
gets a better fight than Dalton Smith. I expect
29:06
this will be better than Dalton Smith as well.
29:10
All right, Shakur Stevenson versus William Zepeda.
29:17
Look how they massacred my boy. Is that a good
29:22
meme to put up here? I don't know, man. I think
29:26
Zepeda did better than people expected him to.
29:31
And this is the one where the Tom and Jerry talk
29:34
really changed the fight. Shakur actually decided
29:37
to stand and fucking fight this time. And it
29:40
was exciting. Like, even I have to say. He was
29:43
fucking brilliant in the pocket. Yeah. Why don't
29:47
you do that more, dog? Exactly. This just makes
29:50
me, like, pissed off. Like, so you can do this.
29:53
You just don't. You just don't want to. Well,
29:57
the thing is, let me tell you this. I ate my
30:00
words that night. I ate my words all night. Because
30:03
I'll tell you this. I talked about this last
30:06
podcast, too. I know Shakur is... But the thing
30:11
is that I succumb to the noise. I will admit
30:19
that. I succumb to the noise of people saying
30:21
he's a boring fighter. He can still be a boring
30:24
fighter, but that boy can't fight. He has heart.
30:27
He can be scrappy. So from here on out, I'm going
30:31
to stop calling him a boring fighter. Because
30:33
I know he can't be. If he chooses to be a boring
30:35
fighter in the future, that's different than
30:36
actually being a boring fighter. You know what
30:38
I mean? Does that make sense? No, I disagree.
30:40
Choosing to be boring still makes you boring.
30:44
Well, I understand that, but he has the ability
30:45
to not be boring, is what I'm saying. I've always
30:47
said he has the ability, he just chooses not
30:50
to. And this proves it. And it makes me angry.
30:54
The thing is that with Zepeda, I will say this,
30:57
that Zepeda, you guys can disagree, I think that
31:01
he rocked Shakur hard in round, I think, four?
31:05
Is that the three or four? Zepeda did. Yeah,
31:10
he hurt him. I know what round you're talking
31:12
about. He rocked Shakur super hard. That got
31:15
him off balance. People say he was off balance.
31:17
I think the punch is what got him off balance.
31:20
It's what rocked him. And I think if someone
31:25
with a lot more power than that, you know, I
31:28
don't know what would happen. I'm like Tank,
31:30
you know, but we'll talk about that in a bit.
31:33
Yeah, because Zepeda's a volume guy. He's not
31:36
really a power guy. I don't think Zepeda hits
31:39
super hard. No, no, no. He never stops throwing.
31:44
Oh, yeah. Zepeda did a lot better in my eyes
31:48
than even what I was thinking, but I think that
31:52
Zepeda's stock kind of went up a little bit,
31:56
if that makes any sense, because, I mean, yeah,
31:58
he didn't do the best. Obviously, he... Did it
32:02
beat Shakur, but you know what? He gave Shakur
32:04
his hardest fight. You know? So they can still
32:07
use him for other future fights. You know, it
32:09
wasn't like he lost horribly. Oh, yeah. No, I
32:13
don't think this really hurt Zepeda. Zepeda's
32:18
reputation. I think everyone expected him to
32:22
lose. Yeah. But honestly, he lost a lot less
32:26
worse than what I expected. A lot of people also
32:29
thought he was going to get knocked out. What?
32:34
A bunch of people were saying that. What the
32:36
fuck? That is just absurd. Yeah, I couldn't see
32:42
how that would happen. Shakur put on a great
32:46
fight. Shakur threw hard punches that fight.
32:50
That was beautiful. And he didn't break his hand.
32:56
Yeah, exactly. That was some of the most beautiful
32:58
fighting I've seen in a while. Standing punch
33:01
in the pocket like that? It is... The scores
33:06
would suggest that Stevenson put on, like, an
33:09
absolute clinic. 118 -110 times 2, 119 -109.
33:16
Like, that's the best scores they gave him? The
33:19
game was 10 -2? Yeah, that's ridiculous. I think
33:24
Zepeda won at least three rounds. Yeah. He won
33:27
two, three, and four, in my opinion. Fans also
33:33
gave him two, three, and four as well. One judge
33:38
gave him seven and one judge gave him eight.
33:43
Yeah. I know Shakur won, but that seems like
33:48
a little bit of favoritism. I'm not going to
33:49
lie. Yeah, it does. I wonder where Shakur goes
33:55
from here now, though, because he's a free agent.
33:59
That could only mean one thing. Well, he can't...
34:03
If Tank can stay out of jail... It's gotta be
34:08
a Tank fight, I'll tell you, because Tank doesn't
34:10
have to fight Roach again, right? If the fight's
34:14
off, if the fight's really off, you know, you
34:18
can just wait and fight your crew, and then fight
34:20
Roach after. You know? Well, isn't Tank fighting
34:25
Jake Paul? Yeah, but they're... I don't know.
34:30
I would hope that Tank fights Shakur. I really
34:34
want to see that fight now. I do think, I keep
34:37
flip -flopping, because I would say that Tank
34:39
would beat Shakur. Now I think that Shakur has
34:41
the ability to beat Tank. You know, like, he
34:44
can. Based on what you saw. Based on what I saw,
34:48
like, he could fucking beat Tank. Especially
34:51
after the Roche try, too. I was like, well, with
34:54
what Roche did to him, that's Lamont Roche. Shakur's
34:58
a different beast, you know? Shakur's a whole
34:59
different animal. I think that if Tank catches
35:03
Shakur, possibly Shakur can go down. But we'll
35:08
see when that fight happens. If that fight even
35:09
happens, which I kind of doubt. But I hope it
35:13
happens. It'll be interesting to see who Shakur
35:18
goes with promotionally. Because that is going
35:20
to determine his possible next fights. Well,
35:25
I'll tell you this. He's not going to top rank.
35:27
He's not going to Queensberry. I doubt he's going
35:30
to go to Golden Boy. Why not top rank? He was
35:34
already with them. Oh, okay. So I feel like he's
35:39
just going to stay with Eddie. I don't think
35:41
that he's going to go to PBC. If he does, he'll
35:43
do like a one fight deal. Because I don't think
35:47
the PBC has a lot of fighters at 135. I think
35:51
the only one is really Tank, huh? I think you're
35:54
right. That would be like a one fight deal. Unless
35:58
he goes up and wait, of course. But that's a
35:59
different story. But yeah, that's... I wonder
36:05
what Shakur's going to do next. He's probably
36:07
going to fight next year. I don't think he's
36:08
going to fight again this year. He's already
36:10
fought twice. They've already got the ring cards
36:14
assembled for the end of the year. I don't know.
36:23
Yeah, that would be a good fight. Good little
36:28
unification. I mean, I personally would like
36:32
to see him versus Keyshawn, too, but... Oh, yeah,
36:35
they're not going to do that. Yeah, that's not
36:37
going to happen. That's never going to happen.
36:39
The thing is that I also wanted to see Keyshawn
36:42
versus Tank, and then Raven versus Shakur. You
36:47
know? Then have the Undisputed fight. Would be
36:52
nice. Well, I mean, there's also one other guy
36:56
that I think... It's probably the most likely
36:58
option for sure. Of Dula Mason? Okay. You just
37:04
rained on my parade. Nah, who do you think I
37:08
was talking about? Who do you think I was talking
37:09
about? That was who I thought you were talking
37:13
about. Yeah, Sam Noakes. Yeah, of course. Sam
37:15
Noakes. Dalton Smith. All these Brit bums. No,
37:19
I'm talking about my boy Floyd Schofield. Oh.
37:22
That, I think, is a good fight for... Well, I
37:26
think it's an exciting fight. I don't know about
37:28
it's a good fight to go for this point in the
37:30
career. But, you know, that's still an exciting
37:34
fight I would love to watch. How about Andy Cruz?
37:41
No, no. It's his mandatory. I would not want
37:45
to watch Andy Cruz fight, I'll tell you that
37:47
right now. Andy Cruz is one... For Murataya,
37:52
one for Shakur and two for Tank. Rankings -wise.
37:58
I'll tell you, this is going to be a lot easier
38:00
to fight Shakur than fight Murataya. Promotional
38:05
-wise. Yeah. Because I doubt that the top rank
38:13
is going to want to let Andy Cruz beat Murataya,
38:17
which, yeah, they're a guy, you know. And I think
38:20
it's easier for Eddie to get a fight in -house,
38:22
you know? So, what did you think about Shakur
38:29
saying he's not going to fight like that again?
38:33
That he took too much damage? When did he say
38:38
this? Post -fight interview. No shit. Yeah. I
38:45
mean, I know he can fight like this. But the
38:48
thing is, it really depends on the fighter he's
38:50
fighting against, you know? Yeah. I always knew
38:54
he could fight like this, but I always knew he
38:56
chose not to. And then after this exciting fight
39:00
that everybody loved and is talking about, he
39:02
basically said, you'll never see it again. That's
39:06
unfortunate, honestly, because I think he needs
39:09
this type of fight to become popular, or stay
39:12
popular, or grow his fan base, you know? Absolutely.
39:15
I agree. That's why Tank's a well -known name
39:18
is because he gets knockouts. He's exciting somewhat,
39:21
you know? But, I don't know. I would love to
39:25
see Shakur Tank. I think right now is the perfect
39:27
time to make it before they fight anybody else.
39:30
Yeah, I think everybody wants that one. Like,
39:33
I think that's a pretty highly demanded fight
39:36
all around. But I also don't think it happens
39:39
just because it's boxing. Yeah, Tank won't take
39:44
that. Maxie Hughes is on his top five mandatories.
39:53
Pretty crazy. And he's the silver champion. That's
40:02
just mean. Mean to Maxie? Yeah. He would look
40:09
so stupid. They would be pretty sad. Anything
40:20
more for this one? Nah. Okay. Time for me to
40:28
take my lashings. Serving up. Getting myself
40:33
a nice healthy portion size of humble pie. A
40:39
nice big slice. Hamza Shiraz knocks out Edgar
40:45
Berlenga in five. Fucking Ber... I, uh, how did
40:50
I, I, the, my exasperated expression, as I said,
40:56
I fucking knew, I knew not to, not to believe
41:01
in Berlinga. I knew it. Just everything in my
41:04
fucking body and brain was saying, don't, don't
41:07
do it. Do not, do not support him. He's a fucking
41:11
idiot. And you're going, it's just going to go
41:14
badly for you. But you did it anyways. But I
41:18
did it anyways. What do you know? Hamza Shiraz
41:23
knocks his ass the fuck out. Shiraz looks so
41:28
big. Yeah. Everybody was saying that Berlanga
41:32
was going to be the bigger guy and a weight bully
41:34
and everything. And Shiraz looked way bigger
41:37
than him in the ring. It was crazy. The face
41:39
-offs at the media press conferences, just seeing
41:43
the photos. The height difference was really
41:46
stark. But not even just height. Like, he was
41:49
just bigger. Bigger frame. Yeah. I don't know
41:54
how that man was cutting down to whatever, 160.
41:57
Yeah. 154. Crazy. I ate my words for this fight.
42:06
Yep. I'll tell you. I was very sad after. As
42:11
much as I fucking hate Berlanga. I did not want
42:16
to see Hamza win. And now we see in the Discord
42:21
and people online that people are now saying
42:24
Hamza deserves a canola fight. Even my own dad's
42:27
saying that. Every day for the past couple days,
42:30
my dad isn't telling me. And every day, I keep
42:38
thinking, yeah, he's rubbing it in. He hated
42:41
Berlanga. He hated Berlanga. Well, he hates Berlanga.
42:44
It was funny. Mid -fight, right before Berlanga
42:47
got the knockdown, he's like, this is going to
42:49
go to the decision. Watch. And then he got the
42:51
knockdown. And then he got the knockdown. He's
42:53
like, oh! Oh! My dad's been rubbing my face every
42:57
fucking day now. Excellent. That's basically
43:02
what I'm dealing with now. I got to live with
43:04
it. I talk too much shit. Lynn's happy. Didn't
43:07
have to pay me any turns of taking. That's true.
43:10
Yeah, I had to eat my own words. So, I've been
43:16
humbled. But it's also sad to see that Hamid
43:20
Shiraz is probably going to get a shot at Canelo.
43:22
I think he does deserve it, though. I did not
43:26
think he deserved it. I'm surprised. Just as
43:29
much as Berlanga did. More than Skull does. Berlanga
43:34
didn't, but the problem is that they never deserved
43:36
it. None of those guys deserved it. Yeah, I'm
43:38
just saying that Shiraz isn't going to get the
43:41
Canelo payday anyways because Canelo's going
43:44
to duck him. No, no, he's not. He's going to
43:48
be forced to fight him. I don't know. Canelo
43:51
signed with Riyadh. Yeah. And the problem is
43:56
that with Berlanga, how is he going to fight
44:04
Berlanga and then get a shot at Unzbuter with
44:05
someone like Christian Billy? who's been working
44:08
his way up legitimately for the past couple years
44:10
and is now the interim champion, has been curved,
44:16
you know? Ridiculous. Even someone like Diego
44:20
Pacheco deserves more. Diego Pacheco's young,
44:22
but he deserves way more than Shiraz. In my opinion.
44:29
All these guys do. I'd say they're about the
44:31
same level of deserving. Yeah, I would not be
44:34
mad at Pacheco either. Well, I think it's just
44:40
because they built their way up to become an
44:42
interim title holder. Instead of fighting someone
44:45
like Berlanga and knowing your connections, you
44:47
know? It's boxing, though, but come on. I'm looking
44:51
at the rankings to see... How the fuck is Bektamir
44:56
number one in the WBA? Well, he fought in Final
45:00
Eliminator. Against Darius Fulgham? And he didn't
45:06
look very good. That's your final eliminator?
45:10
Darius fucking Fulgham? I still want to see Osli's
45:15
fight. Someone up there, but we'll see. I doubt
45:20
that'll ever happen anywhere in the near future,
45:24
but we'll see. He's number three in the IBF.
45:31
So that's... So maybe you'll get to see it. How
45:37
is Jermall Charlo number one in the WBC, too?
45:41
That's ridiculous as well. I don't get that either.
45:44
I really don't. Honestly, no. Honestly, I think
45:48
Hamza probably deserves it more than Charlo.
45:52
If there's one person I would say, it's probably
45:54
he deserves it more than Charlo. You think they
46:00
want to do the storyline of Canelo fighting both
46:04
Charlo brothers? He's going to beat Jermall Charlo.
46:10
I don't think there's even a question. Of course
46:14
he's going to. As much as I hate that Hamza fight,
46:18
dude, it would probably be Canelo's hardest fight.
46:22
In quite a while. Yeah, in quite a while. Just
46:26
because how tall he is, how strong he punches.
46:32
So I can kind of see why. But it sucks because
46:36
I already know the result of that fight. It's
46:38
a kangaroo court type of fight. I just wanted
46:43
Turkey to take an L. Yeah. That was it. That
46:51
would've been funny. He'd belong to win the King
46:53
of New York, but he's now the Jester of New York.
46:57
The King has fallen. Yeah. By the British. Ugh.
47:04
Gross. Gross. All right. Anything more for this?
47:10
For the ring? No. I don't think so. As much as
47:15
I hate to say it, it was a fire card. It was
47:18
a good card. It was amazing. It was absolutely
47:19
a good card. In my opinion, it's probably the
47:22
best card that Turkey's ever assembled. Oh, 100
47:24
% the best he's ever assembled. Right now, what
47:28
are the other options? Fucking Eubank Ben was
47:33
not a good card. It just happened to have a good
47:36
fight. fight and a half on it uh music theory
47:42
one times square fucking worst card in history
47:49
followed by the worst fight in fucking canelo
47:53
history i will say turkey has been making improvements
48:01
every every iteration of his fight cards. I think
48:10
this Ring 3 card was for sure the best just because
48:13
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48:17
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48:20
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48:25
It's good stuff. I liked it. Unfortunately. Alright.
48:34
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54:08
Salida on the zone at the Little Caesars Arena
54:12
in Detroit. There's only two fights on here that
54:15
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54:19
Edward Diaz. So that should be fun. I don't know
54:25
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54:29
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54:33
Shields versus Lonnie Daniels. Clarissa Shields,
54:37
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54:41
Daniels, the undisputed light heavyweight champion.
54:46
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54:50
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54:57
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55:03
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55:09
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55:15
Schiltz will just win. As usual. And top rank
55:24
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55:32
Let's go from the bottom up. I'm just going to
55:35
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55:41
He's the son of that. Juanma versus Jorge Gonzalez
55:47
Sanchez. Emiliano Vargas versus Alexander Espinoza.
55:54
That should be fun. Steven Navarro. I see him
55:59
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56:03
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56:10
You know who else is just... fine. Bakudir Jalalov
56:16
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56:23
looking dude, Jalalov. So, anything getting you
56:33
excited as I go up the card? No, not really.
56:43
Saul doesn't watch the undercards. Wait, wait,
56:47
wait. I watch the undercards of Top Rank, yeah.
56:49
I just don't think it's that exciting. Fair enough.
56:55
Rohan Polanco versus Quinton Randall. Polanco
56:59
should be an exciting knockout just because that's
57:04
how they're building him right now. Bruce Carrington
57:09
versus Mateus Hayta. Harrington is so fucking
57:17
boring. Yeah. That's actually like a Shakur.
57:24
Like even worse though. Because he's not that
57:27
good. Oh yeah. What I mean is he's actually like
57:31
what people were saying Shakur was. I don't think
57:36
he's that bad. I don't know. I don't like watching
57:41
him. I usually skip his fights. This is not a
57:46
great card either. There's a lot of names I recognize,
57:49
but they're all pretty mid. Yeah, something like
57:53
that. You know who they are, it's just you don't
57:56
really care for... I don't have a strong opinion.
58:02
Me neither. It was fine, guys. Stay busy. Interim
58:09
WBC title on the line there. And the vacant WBO
58:13
super welterweight title. That's 154. Xander
58:18
Zayas versus Jorge Perez. Where did you last
58:21
see Jorge when he beat Charles Conwell? Oh, yeah.
58:27
So that's fun. I think Perez is going to take
58:32
it. You think so? Yeah, I think Perez probably
58:35
would beat Zayas. I think Zayas is... He's okay,
58:40
but I don't think he's going to beat Perez. If
58:42
it goes to the decision, though, I'll give it
58:44
to Zayas, for sure. Oh, of course. He's in New
58:46
York. He's Puerto Rican. Mexico versus Puerto
58:49
Rico. Yeah. It'll be a good fight, though. It'll
58:53
be fun. I'll say. I assume Zayas is going to
58:58
win this one. Yeah. I'm going to be going for
59:03
Perez, though. Oh, I'm cheering for Perez, but...
59:07
I'm expecting Zayas to win. Yeah. Pick league,
59:12
I will be picking Zayas, I think, by decision.
59:17
Maybe we'll see Zayas find that new gear that
59:21
finally starts impressing people. Maybe. I would
59:26
not bet money on that. I think Perez could push
59:30
him to do it. If he has the gear, Perez can do
59:34
it, can push him to it. That's fair. I do want
59:39
to see that happen because, honestly, they can
59:41
make a fight with Virgil. I would love that.
59:45
Virgil versus Zayas? No, Virgil versus Perez.
59:48
Oh, I was about to say, like, do you want Zayas
59:51
to die? No, no. Well, honestly, I mean... Maybe.
59:56
If Zayas wins, they're going to give Virgil that
59:57
shot. I'll tell you this right now. Oh, of course.
1:00:00
You know top rank how they are. Top rank protection
1:00:03
system. They're going to protect the fighter
1:00:05
until they're absolutely sure they can win the
1:00:08
fight. Or it gives them enough money to where
1:00:11
they say, fuck the fighter, let's get that money,
1:00:14
man. Yeah. That's how Top Rank is. Top Rank does
1:00:22
put on some pretty good cards every once in a
1:00:25
while, though. When they decide to risk their
1:00:29
guys, they do it for something good. Keyshawn's
1:00:33
original card, that card originally was going
1:00:36
to be good. Yeah. Until... Jared Anderson versus
1:00:42
Martin Bacoli. Did they sacrifice him for something
1:00:45
good there? Bacoli's... Of all the things you're
1:00:50
going to gamble your fucking future on, it's
1:00:52
going to be him? I don't think anybody expected...
1:00:58
Jared Anderson to lose that one, though. I don't
1:01:00
think they thought it was a gamble. This must
1:01:05
be like the guy that was sitting next to me at
1:01:07
the event. He's like, Anderson's going to school.
1:01:11
This guy went to go get a beer. I'm like, I don't
1:01:14
know about that, buddy. Oh, no, I won money on
1:01:17
that fight. I knew Anderson wasn't that good,
1:01:25
but I think Top Rank thought he was. All right.
1:01:32
Anything more for Top Rank at the MSG Theater?
1:01:38
Nope. Let's go praise. All right. Really quick.
1:01:47
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a pretty bleak weekend. Shanada, you're doing
1:03:01
something this weekend. I am. I'm very excited.
1:03:05
I'm going to the Ryzen Summerfest in the Saitama
1:03:10
Super Arena. I'm super excited. I want to see
1:03:15
the arena, which is a very nerdy thing to say,
1:03:17
but I've seen it on TV so many times. I want
1:03:19
to see the inside of the arena. And I think Ryzen
1:03:24
just is probably a completely different atmosphere
1:03:28
than the boxing. I'm expecting many less businessmen
1:03:32
with escorts and many more drunken hooligans.
1:03:36
So I'm hoping to make friends. I've been practicing
1:03:39
my Japanese to try and talk to people beside
1:03:42
me. Asking who's fighting. Yeah, yeah. I think
1:03:47
I talked about it a couple weeks ago, but I have
1:03:49
started memorizing possible answers. That's good.
1:03:52
Because I had memorized all the questions, Saul,
1:03:57
and then totally forgot that I need to understand
1:03:59
what they tell me after the question. So. Yeah,
1:04:05
no, I'm super stoked for it. Yeah, this is a
1:04:10
good weekend for it to fall on. You're not going
1:04:12
to be missing a whole lot. Yeah, I'm not missing
1:04:15
much for boxing, and it's like fucking 12 hours.
1:04:18
It's so long. 12 is an exaggeration, but it starts
1:04:22
at 1 in the afternoon, and I expect it to go
1:04:24
until like 10. The Ryzen event? Yeah. Oh, hell
1:04:28
yeah. Like, so many fights. Marathon events.
1:04:31
Yeah. I might actually end up having to spend
1:04:35
the night in Tokyo. I think I'll get out of Saitama,
1:04:38
but I don't know if I'll make it out of Tokyo
1:04:40
before the trains end. There's worse things.
1:04:44
I can spend a night in Tokyo. Saul, you doing
1:04:49
anything fun? Or are you watching the boxing
1:04:51
with me? I'm watching the boxing with you. That's
1:04:54
what I'm doing. I'm probably going to play Quip
1:04:55
Lash. Oh, that's right. We've got Quiplash. That's
1:04:59
part of the fucking Discord fun. Yeah, we haven't
1:05:05
played for a little while. We should do that
1:05:06
this weekend. Yeah, let's do that. I'll have
1:05:13
to get the game just in case somebody else, someone
1:05:16
who does have it, it doesn't show up. It's all
1:05:21
good. I can do that. I've said a few times I
1:05:24
don't mind buying that one. We can fight over
1:05:27
who spends money. Shit. Parting words. What do
1:05:33
I got? Discord is fun. There's boxing talk if
1:05:38
you're into MMA also. There's MMA spaces. Fucking
1:05:41
food. Your pets. Video games. Book club. All
1:05:47
kinds of shit, man. This is more than just fights.
1:05:50
On Fight Night, please make no mistake. We're
1:05:52
talking about the fights. Throughout the rest
1:05:56
of the week, we're having a good time. All right.
1:06:02
Well, that's it for this edition of the Boxing
1:06:04
B -Sides. See you on the other side.