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Catchy Riffs & Heavy Lyrics with If Not For Me · OurSpace with Matt Vettese

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You're listening to our space with matt
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batiste thank you so much for throwing on another episode of
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our space today we are talking with patrick
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hayden zach and cody of metalcore band if not for me thank you so much for coming
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on the show today guys of course we're happy to be here thanks for having us
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this is awesome and exciting on the same day that this podcast comes out you
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will be releasing a new single.
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Why don't we start off the show by telling me a little bit about that?
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How did that single kind of come to be?
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What was the process with all of that? What was the inspiration there?
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Yeah, the single, we actually wrote this one a long time ago,
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back before a lot of, actually back before all of the most recent singles we put out.
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We wrote this with Grant McFarlane and Carson Slovak of Atrium Audio in Lancaster, PA.
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And it was, I don't know, we tried to use a lot of different producers for this
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record, because we just wanted a lot of different influences and sounds.
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And so those are some of the guys we went to.
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And we, you know, just writing a song from scratch with them.
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And it came out really sick. And now it's going to be a single.
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So we weren't sure if it was going to be one of the singles for a while.
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But here it is. And you've worked with them in the past, right?
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We have. Yeah, they did our whole eulogy album.
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And actually, they did the EP that we have out to capture the current.
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So we did all those songs with them.
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So this is just sort of an addition to that and kind of keeping with that same
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theme as your older stuff.
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I do actually really love this song so far. It's personally one of my favorites.
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So definitely excited to see what the feedback is going to be from fans on that one.
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Is this a one-off single right now? Do you have another EP in the works or a full length?
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Yes, we have a full length in the works. I believe by the time that this episode
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comes out, we'll have announced it.
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So I guess we can say the date, right? Sure. Okay.
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Yeah, so I think the album should be coming out on March 29th.
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It's actually going to be titled The Name of This Single, Everything You Wanted.
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And yeah, I mean, we're really stoked about it. Hopefully everyone else is really stoked about it too.
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It's really exciting within you. I'm especially coming out so fast.
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How long have you guys been working on this?
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It feels like forever. Yeah, probably.
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I don't even know. Maybe a year total. No, not that long. Probably no longer going to feel me now.
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Yeah, probably even a little bit longer. Like we've been sitting on feel me
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now and demons for almost like a little over a year now.
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But yeah, yeah probably like a year and a half stoked to
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see you working with the same producers as well were you did you sort of put
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together this song and a lot of the songs from this upcoming album sort of around
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the same time as eulogy no the majority of the album was actually written this
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year only probably like six months ago i'd say maybe eight months ago oh well yeah 2024,
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okay they got me on they got me all right 2024 now
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so yeah anything else big
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planned for 2024 24 is there going to be
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a tour announcement at some point or uh is that
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sort of kept under wraps for now we're working
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on stuff nothing that we can really confirm
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or say so there's always so much red tape i know every time i talk to bands
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they're like oh we want to tell you everything but also at the same time we
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can't because we're sort of waiting on on a whole lot of moving parts but it's
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good to know at the very least to kind of get a hint that you guys are sort
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of looking Looking forward to...
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Big things this year we'll kind of like leave it at that yeah
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definitely things are in the works i do want to
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know i know we wanted to start the show off talking about the single because
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the episode is being released the same day as as the single and like i said
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it's awesome but kind of getting back to the basics of the band one question
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i've wanted to know and i haven't been able to find anywhere on the internet
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if not for me where did that name come from.
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Yeah i don't know there's the
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long story short it was
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an old member that's no longer with us and i honestly wasn't even a part of
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the conversation when it happened but it just kind of like stuck around and
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we all really like this so we haven't changed it maybe one day i'm just kidding
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but um yeah no no we i don't know yeah that's that's the simplest answer,
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we get asked that question all the time and you
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would think by now that we have would come up with like a
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better answer so i think you just need to make something up at
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this point honestly we should make up like a cool story
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about it just like make up the most outrageous story you know like i was dreaming
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one day and there was this dragon that was destroying the whole world and if
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not for me and my magical sword the world would have been able to stop it and
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then i woke up and i was like Like, if not for me, that's a great band name.
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Yep. Yep. It came to me in a dream.
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I think with Metalcore and as a Metalcore band like you guys,
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I feel like amongst fans,
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things can be like a little bit split in terms of the way that people listen
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to music, whether they listen to it for the instrumentals or for the lyrics.
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How important are the lyrics to a band, to your band? Why are you giving this to me?
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It's definitely important but ironically for
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us i feel like like that's what comes
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last in the songwriting process like very rarely will i come into a song like
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with lyrics like already like i already know what i want to talk about and all
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that kind of stuff because generally i will i'll feed off the instrumental it's
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like typically we'll start with an instrumental and then we'll just.
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Lay out as many like hooks as we can think of. We'll just like hum along to
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it and try to find like what we think is catchy.
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And then from there, I'll go in and I'll take whatever melodies that we like
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and then kind of think about what they make me feel.
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And then that's when the words kind of start coming to it, which is it's probably
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like kind of backwards in comparison to like what a lot of people do.
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I know a lot of people like to start with like what the song is about. but
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for me it's hard for me to to
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really like come up with that kind of stuff unless i know
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like a general mood that the song is
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making me feel and we're just we're writing catchy songs
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that we like so like the catchiness is what's really important to us and then
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all that kind of stuff falls into place with whatever the song is making me
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feel at the time that's kind of cool though that you get the instrumentals and
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how do the instrumentals make you feel and you're able able to sort of piece
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together the words that way,
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which I don't know how common that might be.
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Like you said, I think a lot of people might write their lyrics first and sort
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of write the instrumentals based around that. I feel like it's sort of a case by case basis.
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But you know, you guys have a lot of really catchy hooks and melodies and lyrics.
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So I was wondering, you know, are you a lyrics first?
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Like how much do lyrics matter to you guys?
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I mean, I mean, even when you're sort of piecing together and taking how it
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feels, the thought that goes into the lyrics, like, is there a lot of thought?
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Like, do you guys, even when you're sort of listening to music from other bands,
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are you listening for the instrumentals or are you listening for the lyrics?
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I feel like we're all, we probably would all have a different answer to that.
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When I like listen to something, I really appreciate good lyricism and like
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telling a story and stuff like that. I know Hayden doesn't really care about that kind of stuff.
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He's more into the actual songwriting stuff.
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But yeah i don't like you guys yeah like patty
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said i am terrible with lyrics i even our
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songs he doesn't even know most of our yeah a lot
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of our songs i'm still singing wrong words when i especially when
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i sing in the car live i practice them and i'm just like all right this this
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is the part that i gotta do i know that one line um but yeah when i listen to
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like you know the radio spotify apple music whatever it is i'm definitely just
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kind of like i'm like a producer brain i I guess, mixing guy.
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I just really appreciate arrangements, productions, mixes, and the way that
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the beat... And don't get me wrong, I don't hate vocals.
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I love the catchy choruses and stuff like that.
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That's what I think we all like about this band and we try to bring to the table.
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Yeah, I don't know. That's my point of view. I'm honestly all about the lyrics.
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Just kind of like an emo kid at heart, elder emo here.
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So it's all about just like how lyrics resonate with me and just
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like the story behind all that kind of like what patty was saying but also as
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a drummer i'm like really into just the instruments as well
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so i'm going to give you both just i just love when i
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hear a random part that has like a really cool subtlety and like a drum fill
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or something that really stands out to me or like listening to a couple song
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the same song over and over again and just like still finding like really cool
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instrumental things hidden in the song every time yeah both definitely matter
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yeah i I definitely think composition is king first, for sure.
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I do think lyrics matter a lot, though, especially because, you know,
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you can have a great composition, but if the lyrics are just like whacked up,
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like, you know, somebody's going to notice that.
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So it's like if people listen to your song and like they're not pointing out
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any of the lyrics, I'd say that's probably a good thing.
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You know what i mean you kind of want both to give
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you the chills you know like that's how you know you have a good song
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is when you're getting chills from like you know a
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filthy breakdown or from like some really
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heavy lyrics i will say you mentioned
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the wonder years when we were off camera and like that's that's
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my favorite band of all time so like me as
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a as a as somebody that appreciates that band like how
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could i not appreciate their lyricism like it's it's
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just top-notch like they're like that perfect band with
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having those catchy hooks and those really catchy lyrics that
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just sort of have that and it's all just
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it's all just life stories too which is something that i really appreciate but
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i will say like after we you know hammer out the melodies and all that kind
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of stuff and and like it's time for me to write lyrics i'm definitely very picky
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about that kind of stuff and i can be pretty stubborn and set in my ways sometimes like Like,
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if like something if we come up with something better,
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I'm pretty resistant to change sometimes,
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but it'd be like that.
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It's just a I feel like that's just the artistic side of me.
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Do you find that you try to put more of those personal stories into your lyrics
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because of your inspiration? Pretty much everything I write about is just personal experience stuff.
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And like, even things that because I do a lot of perspective writing to where
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I try try to put myself in the shoes of other people and write about what they might be feeling.
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And even for those kind of songs, a lot of it is still based on my perception of everything.
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But yeah, everything I write about is very personal to me most of the time.
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Do you ever get uncomfortable writing personal songs, knowing that someone might hear them?
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And, you know, maybe that might be a story about someone, you know, in there all the time.
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And it's it's funny you say that, because where this happens the most is like
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with my mom, because like I know my mom's going to listen to the songs.
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And I know she's going to come to me and be like, what are you talking about right here?
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Especially with eulogy, because that album was all about like mental health
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and like my struggles with like suicide and all that kind of stuff.
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And like, and my mom probably didn't know I was dealing with a lot of that kind of stuff.
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So like, it's always weird, that kind of vulnerability when you put yourself out there like that.
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And you don't really know how people are going to react to it,
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or if they're just gonna, you know, like crap all over you about it.
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Or because because there's always that potential that you
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could really put yourself into something and then it
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comes out and somebody's like yeah this is mid and it's
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just like oh well thanks but yeah
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there's there's just a there's a certain amount of vulnerability to that
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that is it's scary sometimes but most of
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the time it pays off yeah i feel like especially with something like you
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mentioned your mom you know we don't really tell our
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parents everything i'd say that's a normal thing for
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most people to keep their parents out of the loop where
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it almost feels like more comfortable talking about mental health
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struggles with friends or strangers than it would yeah
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100 so writing a song you know mentioning
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your mom or mentioning something that's personal that
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your mom didn't know about you and she's finding it out through a song that's
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got definitely have to be that has to be like nerve-wracking right do you ever
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get any sort of like feedback from from fans through social media like you know
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you mentioned maybe someone might say something mid after putting yourself out there,
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but have you ever received any sort of notes from fans where you're.
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They've really stuck out because they've been so overwhelmingly positive. It happens a lot.
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It's just really cool to be able to be a part of something and have somebody
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reach out to you, whether it's like at a show or just over social media or something like that.
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Like they'll sometimes it'll be like the band's page, but a lot of the times
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they'll like DM me personally.
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And it's just like, yo, like whatever you said here really made an impact on me.
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And And that's just like, that's so cool to me because I just,
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I remember being that kid where, you know, I would go to the shows and all that
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kind of stuff and something would really touch me and, you know,
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it would just inspire something in me.
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And, and to know that like, I sometimes do that for other people is just like
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the coolest thing in the world to me.
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Wanting to be that person that you sort of needed or wanted when you were younger
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definitely Definitely has a huge impact on the way on the way that I think a lot of us react.
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Like, is there a way that you guys as a band sort of do that at your shows or
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when connecting with fans to sort of be that person that you may be needed?
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Yeah, I think one thing that's very important to us is like we whether it's,
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you know, whether we're playing to five people or 500 people or 5000 people,
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we want to put on the same level of performance that we can every single night,
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just because that one kid in the crowd could have drove four hours to come see
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us and was waiting months for this.
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And we just want to give them the best of us that we possibly can every single night.
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And yeah, that's just one thing that's really important to us.
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But I think something really big for us, especially lately too,
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is just responding to almost every comment that we can on TikTok.
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Instagram, just because I know how I used to feel when a band would respond
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back to me or just even share something I posted in their story or something.
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I was like, oh my God, this...
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Person I look up to just like shared this. They actually cared of what I said there.
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I remember one time I took a picture of my cat next to a Motion City soundtrack final.
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The vocalists like commented on it and it just like made my whole day.
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It's like it's such a lame thing, though, I completely like resonated with me.
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And that's something we really take pride in is trying to respond to everybody we can.
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You know, I love that you're one of those bands that do that because you see the importance in it.
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You know, I still remember that time in like
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2005 where Jimmy world messaged me
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back on my space as a
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teenager being like what so like it's cool
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to to build a community as a band
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and be there for your fans and I mean even going back
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to sort of mentioning the being at a show and putting on that show that people
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might need to hear I mean even if it's someone that may not be a fan sort of
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being there for even people that that might be discovering you and sort of giving
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those new potential fans the chills is is awesome.
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And I've seen a ton of great comments about you guys online about the show that
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you the show that you do put on.
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Is there anything in particular you do with like your stage presence that sort
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of might connect more with the fans?
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I'll do my take on the situation.
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I'm really big into like, again, like the production side of things.
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And I like I really like sound. I really like lighting
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and like all that kind of stuff so i just make sure that
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like if the venue that we're playing doesn't have like an adequate system
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to our you know yeah our
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needs uh we bring one and you
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know like sometimes that that stuff is hard with the venue sometimes the
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their employees and their owners don't like that but we have a saying and if
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not for me and we make it their problem them um and yeah so we you know and
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then we have we have a light show that we program again you know if the venue
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doesn't have adequate lighting we bring our own uh we we program it,
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If not for me, there would be great. There would be terrible lighting.
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That could be the new definition.
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As far as stage presence goes, I don't know.
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I mean, we just try to realistically look cool.
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And yeah, yeah, exactly. Zach and I have like, you know, things that we try
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to do together so that we're symmetrical on stage and Patrick's in the middle.
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He kind of does his own thing and interacts with people.
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Yeah i think uh part of it for me in
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particular is i like to be really interactive when i can especially
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if the crowd you know wants to be because
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like sure you'll have you'll have nights where like the crowd's kind of dead but like
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if the crowd is just like so into it the
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whole time it just gets so easy and i
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just like to do i don't know i like to i come from
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a pop punk background so like i'm all about mic
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grabs like i think that is so cool like if somebody's
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like singing along and they're acting like they like you know
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they want to sing a part or whatever like yeah here you go buddy
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and i don't know i'm just all about
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you know being up front with them and interacting with them and like a lot of
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especially when we play in like the upstate new york area a lot of them that
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have you know been coming out and seeing us consistently they do this thing
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where like they like to hand me their cell phones like recording and i'm like
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sure like i'll grab it and i'll you You know,
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like I'll do like selfie of the crowd and selfie of us playing and like all that kind of stuff.
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And it's just I like to keep it fun for the fans.
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And I like to I like to make them feel like.
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You know that they matter to us because at the end of the day you
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know we would not be there without them so like honestly
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like we're in and so much debt to them when it comes to
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that perspective that's so cool you like you
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bring the fans into the show like you make it an engaging show and like i have
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so many of them come up to me after like thank you for letting me sing with
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you thank you for you know taking my phone thanks for all this kind of stuff
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you know we'll take pictures and we'll do all that kind of stuff and it's just
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and like i said earlier just i remember remember being that fan.
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So to be able to provide that for somebody and to show them like what they're
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doing for us, it matters just as much as what we're doing for them is very important
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to me. And you guys grew up in Pennsylvania.
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Did you find that, you know, you had a big scene that way growing up that sort
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of kind of gave back the same way that you feel you're giving back?
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Like does that has that had any impact or inspiration on the way that you guys
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sort of act and put on shows as a band? Yeah, we had some sick venues,
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some of which are not around anymore due to, you know, COVID and other things
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when we were all growing up.
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And we all know each other because we grew up playing in, you know,
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local bands are adjacent to each other. And that's kind of how we formed.
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And we had some sick venues and shows around here. And I was just really blessed
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to have the kind of bands that we have in this area.
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We grew up with the August Burns Red and the emergence of that kind of metalcore
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sound. This is the Apocalypse.
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Texas in July is all from the central PA hub.
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And because of those bands, it really made all the emerging bands just have
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to try to get up to that level and just keep leveling up and leveling up and
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just pushing each other.
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And yeah, I think it created some really incredible metalcore bands.
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Was there like a gateway band for each of you that kind of got you into metalcore?
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And it could be something that's totally not metalcore related at all.
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Like, you know, I often say it like, if it wasn't for Avril Lavigne,
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I wouldn't be like, where I am today, right?
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Like little 11 year old Matt listening to I'm With You on his Discman,
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you know, sort of paved that
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way and was that pipeline to getting me into more of like the
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Blink-182s and the Sum 41s and sort
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of like developing my music taste it was just sort of like
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all over the place into like metallica and there
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was just such a huge like crossover pipeline
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but like it it feels like it all started with
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like 10 year old matt and being listening to avril lafine at that point and
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it sort of developed like what was that first band that sort of started that
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pipeline for you guys personally i think i'm gonna throw a couple out at you
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just as like my progression is just getting it further and further into this
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and And as a drummer, probably starting with Atreyu,
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like when Lipgloss and Platt came out, that like blew me away as like a middle schooler, you know.
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And then I was like the first time I heard double bass pedal too.
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So I was just like, I got to try to replicate this.
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Then probably Poison the Well, getting into more of like a post-hardcore and
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like early metalcore sound. Yeah.
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Um then uh probably then august burns red mac reiner
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completely blew me away as a as a drummer and then
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probably the dillinger escape plan just kind of taking the technicality a
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little bit further absolutely that's a pretty sweet pipeline a lot
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cooler than avril lavigne yeah for me it was
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definitely definitely lincoln park i don't
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even know if i liked music before i heard them and i was like oh my god music
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can be like this yeah i just remember being in the car at a very young age my
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dad would like put it on the radio i'm like dude this gets me so hype and i
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was just like Like I listened to like basically their discography until I was
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like 13, 15 and finally started listening to other stuff.
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But yeah, into like metalcore was definitely probably like Asking Alexandria,
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Bring Me the Horizon, you know, that scene, Escape the Fate.
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So first of all, Avril Lavigne is a queen. That's great.
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And I grew up as a country kid until I was probably like an early teenager,
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maybe, I don't know, maybe like 12 or something like that.
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And I remember my uncle showed me
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Kill Switch Engage and it was the first time I
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ever heard like heavy guitars and drums and like like
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screaming vocals and I was like what is this
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and then you know I started to
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you know dive a little bit more into that and then it was like under oath because
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like I grew up going to like youth group in
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church and so like they'd
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play music videos before you know the whole shindig that
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we would do and like i remember the video which
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song was it uh writing on the walls came up on
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like their music video reels or whatever and by under oath
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and i was like wow like this is nuts and then um
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as i got a little older like maybe 14 15 something
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like that asking alexandria happened and
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at first i was like yo this is whack back
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because yeah i have
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never heard like synths and stuff and metal
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before and like all this all these like poppy techno
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elements and stuff like that but it just it had me in a chokehold for years
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and then like the first band i had was like an asking alexandria clone yeah
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honestly when i first started like playing playing music i well i mean in like
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high school when i started playing with other people started playing music,
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I hated asking Alexandria.
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But now I like them and I appreciate them. And they eventually did get me into this.
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But early on, and I hate to be this guy because I don't know,
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but Metallica was like a really big influence for me. I was like,
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whoa, this sounds massive.
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And then I got into like Avenged Sevenfold. And then like everyone else was
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saying, like Escape the Fade, Asking Alexandria.
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That was like the really big big part that influenced me and to like,
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start, you know, writing like this kind of music and stuff like that.
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You know, I'm glad that you said Metallica because I feel like Metallica.
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While it kind of feels almost cliche to say that
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they were the gateway into metal but it's like
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at what point do we just kind of take that step back and be
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like yeah they were the gateway into metal and and we can just respect them
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for that like it's sure maybe it's cliche but i mean they were my gateway into
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it too like i said i went from avril lavigne into metallica into like then that
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got me into like the punk and it was like sex pistols and ramones and then blink 182 and And,
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you know, it was just sort of like all over the place.
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And that sort of really developed my personality and music taste before it was
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like The Used and Chiodos and all of that. Like it was just all over the place.
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But it kind of starts sometimes with Metallica. They were that first band with
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for so many of us with the heavy vocals and heavy instrumentals.
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And we can sort of respect them for what they are, even though everything, you know, St.
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Anger and on is just whatever. but i think there's
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some good stuff after saint anger personally but not saint
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anger i'm like a little
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bit of the opposite where i'm like there's a couple of songs on saint anger
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as much as i hate to admit it where i'm like oh these are actually kind of good
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songs it's just the snare drum like just is so bad it's hard to ignore but like
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frantic is a good song and And Some Kind of Monster is kind of a good song, too.
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But other than that, you know, I just kind of like fell off of them after that.
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I think with a lot of people, even with their, you know, stuff being afterwards being good.
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But Metalcore itself is sort of like in a really cool spot right now.
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And it's probably bigger now than it even was in the 2000s. I'm kind of curious
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how you guys feel about the metalcore scene right now and how that sort of impacts you guys as a band.
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It's pretty crazy because I definitely never expected to see any type of metalcore
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band have the commercial success that some of them are having right now.
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And I think like the ultimate example is probably Bring Me the Horizon,
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where like a lot of people are like, oh, they're not metal anymore,
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whatever, blah, blah, blah.
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Even though if you listen to some of their new songs, it's obviously metalcore.
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But it's cool because they're kind of in a spot now where they can just do anything
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that they want and it's going to hit no matter what.
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Because every single album they do, they push their genre.
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And then you have, what's another good example? Falling in Reverse or I Prevail and bands like that.
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I never expected to hear that kind of music on the radio.
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And now it's it's it just keeps happening and
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it's kind of like it's kind of inspiring in a
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way it's it's like yeah sorry
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yeah i think it's crazy because all the bands that we probably all used to listen
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to in high school and were made fun of for it are massive and on the radio and
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you know it's it's really a good feeling for me personally because i don't know
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like falling in reverse for for example, like he was talking about,
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I, I followed, they were like one of the only bands that I've followed since they debuted,
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probably because, you know, he already had a successful band before that.
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But I don't know, I love that first album, and honestly, everything that they put out.
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And it was just kind of one of those things that people were like, you know what I mean?
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When they see that you listening to that, or they see you listening to that kind of stuff.
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And now it's like, hey, told you so.
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Which is like, cool, because it's the same kind of music that we are you know
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playing but it's kind of like validating yeah yeah definitely i think it's also
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really cool to kind of see the crossovers that have been happening like look
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at like spirit box and megan the stallion like what the hell is that you know
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i love it that's so cool for it to like have a metal.
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Progressive metal band like merge over into rap and
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hip-hop and like the mainstream world like that's nuts or hell even
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look at like bands like knock loose and lorna shore playing huge festivals
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like coachella and that's just that's huge i don't
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know if it's like tiktok that's making all this like transcend over in the mainstream
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or just people's new acceptance of it but it's it's really sick i also love
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bands like sleep token and stuff they're trying to incorporate more of like
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pop influence into their sound and it's doing really well and being digested
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really well so yeah i I think the future is really bright for metalcore and it's really exciting.
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I think the thing is too with metalcore and with genre bending is that like
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good music is good music regardless of the genre, right?
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As sort of bands cross over genres, they kind of like sometimes amongst fans
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lose that like credibility of being a metalcore band or a hardcore band or anything like that.
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Do you find that there's like as a band yourself that you're sort of like,
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oh, well, we don't want to piss off those fans by releasing this song,
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or we might not be considered like a metal band.
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We try not to typically just because we're at the end of the day,
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we're writing songs that we like.
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And if it ends up being a soft song, then so be it. If it ends up being a heavy song, so be it.
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I've definitely had moments where, for example, when we put out blameless,
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that was like a heavier track.
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And it did way better than we were expecting it to.
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And then so I was like a a little weary about releasing the next one we put
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out alone because that one's a lot softer.
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And I was like, man, I hope people don't only want this one sound from us.
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But, like, as a whole, with the whole attitude of, like, bands reaching a level
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of commercial success and people being like, oh, they're not a metal band anymore,
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oh, it doesn't matter anymore, they sold out or whatever.
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I just think that's, like, such, like, a corny, like, backwards mindset to it.
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Because, like, if we have bands like Knocked Loose or Spiritbox doing,
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like, these crazy collabs or Bring Me doing these crazy collabs or whatever,
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it's like, at the end of the day, you're bringing more people into the genre.
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And I think that's what's important. Like, I know there's like a bit of exclusivity
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that people try to hold on to with alternative music, but to me,
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that's not what this genre was built on.
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To me, it was more built on like everybody's welcome.
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And I just think like the amount of people being brought into the genre by bands that have,
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you know, like hit, you know, crazy numbers doing huge things is like way more
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more beneficial to the scene than, you know, somebody potentially selling out
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or anything like that. I think you put that really well.
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I really do. I think that you put that really, really well, because I've always
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sort of been in the mentality of like, you want to bring people in because you know, why?
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Or like, why wouldn't you want to bring people in knowing how you feel with
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the music and how the music makes you feel?
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Why wouldn't you want more people to feel that way or to connect with something?
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Right? Like, oh, what? You don't want your shows to do better? you don't
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want more people to hear your message you don't want to you know make all
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these friends and music like okay whatever but that's also
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not just that but if you love a band the band sort of needs to make that money
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and make a living in order to continue making music or it might not be worth
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it for them and then your favorite band they they call it quits and then you
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have no more music from them wouldn't you much prefer your favorite band to
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sort of be making music constantly Yeah, I just don't get that.
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And like, for me, as a listener, or, I mean, as an enjoyer of anything,
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whether it's, you know, music, movies, video games, whatever,
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like food, if I love something, I want to share that with as many people as I can.
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Because I'm like, look how cool this is, look how good this is,
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whatever, like, I just don't get that mindset.
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Set like speaking of the scene and sort of spreading all that love who's your
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favorite up-and-coming band right now that everybody needs to check out it doesn't
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need to be metalcore just you know one isn't metalcore actually it's um.
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Sister label apparently we want to call them thriller they have honey
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revenge and honey revenge i think is probably one of the best up-and-coming
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bands i've heard in the last year of their album retrovision was
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awesome we actually did a thing at the end of the year we all saw
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what our album of the year was and three out of four of us all
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said that so i think it's a group mentality that they're you
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should really check out honey revenge they're sick i'm gonna
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get one band from each of you up and
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up and coming band we did a tour with our friends and
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archers last year they're a great band they make really sick music and they're
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doing really well so um i'd have to say check them out for sure archers i would
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have to say man there's not a lot honestly anymore no i do have one that i want
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to say but i think there's not a lot of up-and-coming,
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bands for me it's really and that that sucks to say and i'm really sorry to
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everyone but it's like you know the the bands that i like that i listen to are
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like the same like 17 bands that I listened to in high school that are still
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doing it, which is awesome, but bigger now.
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But honestly, for me, this band called Windwalkers is, yeah, it is a good one.
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They're so sick. I got the opportunity to edit the vocals on their newest album.
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I forget what it's called, honestly.
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What If I Break or something like that, I think. And that album from front to
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back is really honestly a masterpiece.
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I listened to it a lot more than I should.
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I had to scan my Spotify real quick to see like, cause I just forget what I'm
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listening to all the time.
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But there's this band that we've played with from they're like from the Scranton
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area, I think Scranton, PA.
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They're called So Much Hope Buried. And they're like we did a show with them
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and they just they blew me away.
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It's it's funny because it's like I don't even know how to describe the genre, I guess.
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It's like, yeah, it's like kind of like post hardcore, but it's like more rock
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influenced and more, I think, pop influenced in a way.
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It's a four piece and the front man who's like the singer like also plays piano like beautifully.
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And they're just doing some really cool stuff and they
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were super tight when we saw them they're working on a lot of new music which
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i'm excited to hear but yeah that'd probably be my pick i was gonna say honey
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revenge but cody stole it but yeah i love those guys is there anything else
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that you would like to say about your single that is out today or about the
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band or anything you want fans hands to know going into 2024?
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Yeah, we are actually we just launched a contest with this single,
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where it's going to go up through like the whole album cycle,
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we're going to add more stuff to it.
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But we're giving away like a ton of prizes for you to do you know,
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certain actions like saving songs, your Spotify and all that kind of stuff.
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And the links to that are all on our socials and stuff like that.
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But there's some pretty sick prizes, including you know, signed vinyl and assigned
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symbol clock that Cody makes out of like broken symbols and stuff like that, A lot of cool stuff.
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Not only broken, but used by Cody Frayn.
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Other than that, we're stoked to finally put this music out.
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We're really proud of all this stuff.
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And I hope it resonates with people as much as the previous four singles that we've had out does.
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Because it's been really cool so far and we're very appreciative of that.
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Well, Everything You Wanted is officially out today, the day that we are posting this episode.
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And you got to go and check it out. Thank you so much, guys,
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for taking the time to hang out with me today. Thank you. We appreciate you
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