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- 0:34Speaker 1: people's success stories and really start writing their own. Now
- 0:37Speaker 1: you can be motivated by their success because their stories
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- 0:50Speaker 1: She's one of those. She's a CEO, she's an entrepreneur,
- 0:53Speaker 1: and most importantly, she's an industry decision maker. My next
- 0:56Speaker 1: guest is Laurie and Gibson. She's an Emmy nominating creative visionary, choreographer, director, producer,
- 1:03Speaker 1: and entrepreneur. Her new book is Dance Your Dance. Eight
- 1:07Speaker 1: Steps to leash your passion and live your dreams. The
- 1:09Speaker 1: book was packed with personal antidotes and messages of empowerment.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Dance Your Dance highlights Gibson's evolution from a young dancer
- 1:17Speaker 1: training in New York City to a well respected, in
- 1:19Speaker 1: demand industry leader with an eye for cultivating music artists
- 1:23Speaker 1: from the ground up. The book unveils the ultimate blueprint
- 1:26Speaker 1: to achieving your dreams, a blueprint she's implemented to develop
- 1:30Speaker 1: some of the world's greatest superstars, including Lady Gaga, Nicki Minaj,
- 1:34Speaker 1: Katie Perry, and the Jonas Brothers, among others. Please welcome
- 1:38Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation for the very second time. She's
- 1:40Speaker 1: a good friend of mine to have on this show
- 1:42Speaker 1: and I'm happy to promote her new book. Laurie Anne Gibson,
- 1:44Speaker 1: How are you doing? Ms Gibson, Hi, You're fantastic. Thank
- 1:50Speaker 1: you for having well. First of all, you know, welcome
- 1:52Speaker 1: to my new studio. I want to because last time
- 1:55Speaker 1: we did to be a podcast and we didn't get
- 1:56Speaker 1: to see each other. But you know, life is changing
- 1:59Speaker 1: a good way, and a lot of success that you've
- 2:01Speaker 1: had in despite the COVID nineteen, How did they de
- 2:05Speaker 1: affect your life or the COVID nineteen the pandemic, and
- 2:08Speaker 1: how did that impact you in and pro motivated you
- 2:11Speaker 1: for Well? The interesting thing is I was told when
- 2:15Speaker 1: it was first happening that creatives would excel, and I
- 2:20Speaker 1: kept hearing this and I kep saying to myself, I think,
- 2:23Speaker 1: I think, I think that's right. You know, when everything
- 2:26Speaker 1: shuts down, when people's idea of what it takes to
- 2:29Speaker 1: make it shift, that's when we do excel. And I
- 2:32Speaker 1: have the opportunity to really dig into the book and
- 2:36Speaker 1: understand the purpose in the book. So I was able
- 2:40Speaker 1: to take more time to really flush out my methodology
- 2:44Speaker 1: that I used in helping big superstars becoming their very best,
- 2:49Speaker 1: and I was able to inspire it in eight steps
- 2:52Speaker 1: to unleash your passion and live your dream. So for me,
- 2:55Speaker 1: COVID was a blessing. There was an opportunity to shift
- 3:00Speaker 1: and shift and be prepared for what's ahead of us.
- 3:03Speaker 1: And part of that is shifting the narrative and creating
- 3:07Speaker 1: inspiration and actual transformation and how people dance their dance
- 3:12Speaker 1: and no one else's well, you know, I definitely want
- 3:14Speaker 1: to I want to walk you through you telling your story. Right.
- 3:19Speaker 1: I read the book, enjoyed the book. I read a
- 3:21Speaker 1: lot of motivational book, a lot of books, said uh,
- 3:23Speaker 1: but each book and fascinating. Read your book because you
- 3:27Speaker 1: have to share personal personal angles, and sometimes you're not
- 3:31Speaker 1: happy to share those angles, like your relationship we had
- 3:33Speaker 1: with the the Greek restaurant owner as a young girl.
- 3:36Speaker 1: You you know, you share it and later on you
- 3:39Speaker 1: realize us the food. But that's part of the process.
- 3:42Speaker 1: It didn't destroy you. And and one of the big
- 3:44Speaker 1: things that you say, life is a dance, and I
- 3:48Speaker 1: bring that moment up that was emotionally dark for you.
- 3:51Speaker 1: But life is a dance. Explain why you say life
- 3:54Speaker 1: is a dance in your book. Life is a dance
- 3:57Speaker 1: because it's about different rhythms, it's about different steps that
- 4:01Speaker 1: you have to take. And again, I believe greatness is
- 4:04Speaker 1: in the process. It's not overnight, it's not an insta
- 4:08Speaker 1: it's in the process of becoming, of shedding and receiving
- 4:13Speaker 1: and building. So for me, it was dark, but I
- 4:17Speaker 1: was faced with the opportunity to overcome insecurities. I talked
- 4:22Speaker 1: about step four staying in there yet, so that means
- 4:27Speaker 1: to me when I faced the adversity, when I faced
- 4:30Speaker 1: the feeling of being in a position where I was
- 4:34Speaker 1: vulnerable in the relationship with the restaurant owner, he did
- 4:38Speaker 1: approach me in a sexual manner, and I was uncomfortable
- 4:41Speaker 1: that I wasn't ready to receive it. It didn't align
- 4:45Speaker 1: itself with the feeling of my dream, and I talked
- 4:48Speaker 1: about that being a flag, something that redirects you to
- 4:53Speaker 1: what will help cultivate your dance and create the confidence
- 4:58Speaker 1: that you need to sustain what it is you have
- 5:02Speaker 1: to endure in order to live the dream. Um So
- 5:06Speaker 1: it was difficult. When I did the audio book and
- 5:09Speaker 1: I heard myself speaking the experience, I was like, Oh
- 5:14Speaker 1: my god, You're gonna find out things about me, And
- 5:18Speaker 1: for a moment, I was like, did I write this
- 5:20Speaker 1: and is this really coming out? Very quickly, I understood
- 5:25Speaker 1: that my passion to connect directly with entrepreneurs and visionaries
- 5:31Speaker 1: as a result of what I went through. It gave
- 5:33Speaker 1: me revelation to write the steps in order for them
- 5:36Speaker 1: to not only be inspirational, but effective that you could
- 5:41Speaker 1: go back to a step when you were faced with
- 5:43Speaker 1: the challenge that would take you out of your dance,
- 5:47Speaker 1: out of your rhythm, and ultimately making it longer for
- 5:51Speaker 1: you to achieve that goal. So it was worth it
- 5:54Speaker 1: in the end because I was able to write a
- 5:56Speaker 1: book that would be effective for visionaries. The thing about
- 6:00Speaker 1: it is that it's effective in a lot of ways
- 6:03Speaker 1: because you have to be honest with these books. I
- 6:04Speaker 1: always I hate reading books to tell you how to
- 6:08Speaker 1: be wealthy, but they don't have money in the bank,
- 6:10Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so you can't tell
- 6:12Speaker 1: somebody how to be successful if you can't tell them
- 6:14Speaker 1: how you came out of a dark moment or you
- 6:16Speaker 1: came down from the base of the mountain to climb
- 6:19Speaker 1: that mountain. And that's what your book is. But throughout
- 6:21Speaker 1: the book, you know, you talk about your dad was
- 6:24Speaker 1: an electrician. You've born in Canada Ja Jamaican immigrants. You
- 6:27Speaker 1: know your mom worked at zeros, but that was enough passion,
- 6:31Speaker 1: you know. And the thing I like about it is
- 6:33Speaker 1: that like your mom's passion was to be a fashion
- 6:35Speaker 1: design and her mom said no, that just an impossibility,
- 6:39Speaker 1: and then Mr Christopher and dance school, you talk about
- 6:42Speaker 1: those dream killers when and and like you might hear,
- 6:46Speaker 1: I always tell people you know that leave with your gifts.
- 6:49Speaker 1: Don't let your friends, family members, or your age stop
- 6:52Speaker 1: you from living your dreams or planning your life. I
- 6:55Speaker 1: say that all the time. And that's basically the mantra
- 6:58Speaker 1: for your book. And I love it because of the
- 7:00Speaker 1: fact that a dream killer tried to stop you as
- 7:02Speaker 1: a young dancer because you didn't fit the structure or
- 7:05Speaker 1: the physical structure of a ballerina. Talk about dream killers
- 7:09Speaker 1: because we encounter them and guess what they are clothed
- 7:12Speaker 1: in so many different disguises, as loved ones, as children,
- 7:17Speaker 1: as as religious leaders. That's what this book. I got
- 7:21Speaker 1: excited when I started reading that part of because I said,
- 7:23Speaker 1: she gets it, and she's telling the truth exactly. And
- 7:28Speaker 1: I'm very humbled by the fact that you do get
- 7:30Speaker 1: it because that's very special to me, because that is
- 7:34Speaker 1: the goal, that is the intention, and I think too
- 7:39Speaker 1: many people are afraid to talk about the process, and
- 7:43Speaker 1: they're afraid to let you know that there will be
- 7:45Speaker 1: a fight. There are dream killers, and there is a fight,
- 7:51Speaker 1: and through the fight once you persevere and you hang
- 7:55Speaker 1: onto the feeling of your dream, it will produce what
- 7:59Speaker 1: you need to endure the time that you need to
- 8:03Speaker 1: become the dream. So a lot of people don't talk
- 8:09Speaker 1: about the Dream Killers because there is a lack of
- 8:16Speaker 1: conversation about the fight and about the process. But here's
- 8:21Speaker 1: a book that is unafraid to talk to you while
- 8:24Speaker 1: you're in the process, to celebrate you while you're in
- 8:28Speaker 1: the process, to inspire you to dance your dance and
- 8:33Speaker 1: not someone else's, and that the fight will be there.
- 8:36Speaker 1: But it's the fact that I had to get back up,
- 8:39Speaker 1: that I had to bob and we've dodge and turn,
- 8:43Speaker 1: and through dancing my dance, it created a confidence, a clarity,
- 8:48Speaker 1: a level of perseverance, and a level of clarity that
- 8:52Speaker 1: would enable me to stand strong now at the best
- 8:57Speaker 1: and biggest time of my career. And I think some
- 9:00Speaker 1: people like to just talk about the glossiness. They're afraid
- 9:03Speaker 1: to say. I was curled up in a ball after
- 9:06Speaker 1: I got, you know, in a big fight with Boffy
- 9:09Speaker 1: on making the band. I was curled up in the
- 9:11Speaker 1: ball after I left my pop star at the biggest
- 9:13Speaker 1: moment in her career. But it's those moments where I
- 9:16Speaker 1: had to hang onto the feeling of the dream and
- 9:19Speaker 1: define myself by staying in my yes. And so if
- 9:23Speaker 1: you're at the position and the business doesn't look like
- 9:26Speaker 1: it's about to prosper, but you have this feeling of
- 9:29Speaker 1: the dream, then you have to take the opportunity to
- 9:34Speaker 1: stay in your yes and hang onto that dream and
- 9:37Speaker 1: go through the pain, get back up, choose to fight,
- 9:42Speaker 1: choose to train again, choose to take another route. But
- 9:46Speaker 1: refused to give up, refuse to give up. I want
- 9:51Speaker 1: the narratives to change. Refused to give up. Well, Lorien,
- 9:54Speaker 1: how do I do that? I'm facing eviction. Face it.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Once you face it, and you acknowledge that your dream
- 10:03Speaker 1: is bigger than the eviction, that the feeling of the
- 10:05Speaker 1: dream is bigger than the eviction. Notice, then you will
- 10:09Speaker 1: find a way out because you've chosen your dance over
- 10:13Speaker 1: somebody else's dance, and so the dream killers are there
- 10:19Speaker 1: to force you to dance your dance. You get it
- 10:23Speaker 1: from the visionary perspective. Why am I facing this? Why
- 10:28Speaker 1: did the door close? It closed? Because that is not
- 10:33Speaker 1: in alignment with the feeling of my dream. That door
- 10:37Speaker 1: ultimately wasn't going to create the greatness in me or
- 10:42Speaker 1: produce the greatness in me. Wow. You know the thing
- 10:46Speaker 1: about greatness, it's a word that's used a lot now
- 10:49Speaker 1: because of the pandemic, the word pivot. And when you
- 10:54Speaker 1: read this book, you the queen of pivoting. You know
- 10:56Speaker 1: you are. When you got on that bus with your
- 10:59Speaker 1: third teen thousand plus dollars and thirteen thousand was going
- 11:03Speaker 1: to your tuition at an a Lee, you know, and
- 11:06Speaker 1: the rest was going to you don't know where. That
- 11:08Speaker 1: was your pivoting moment because there was no destiny. But
- 11:10Speaker 1: when you got there, you you balanced to pivoty. That's
- 11:13Speaker 1: what I'm saying is that, you know, I laugh at
- 11:16Speaker 1: my life because I a lot of terms I just
- 11:19Speaker 1: naturally didn't did in my life. They are common terms
- 11:22Speaker 1: now branding pivoting. You were you know, uh dream book
- 11:28Speaker 1: boards and stuff that people put on that's you. But
- 11:31Speaker 1: you did it naturally. Talker walk us through those steps,
- 11:34Speaker 1: you know, even till the discovering the world of hip hop,
- 11:37Speaker 1: that was a pivot moment for you. You didn't come
- 11:39Speaker 1: to New York to be a hippop d answer and
- 11:41Speaker 1: so so talk about the power of pivoty naturally before
- 11:46Speaker 1: it became a term that people use like it's something
- 11:49Speaker 1: that was discovered overnight. They just, well, pivoty you when
- 11:52Speaker 1: you did it? In this book tells you how you
- 11:54Speaker 1: did it. They weren't act the time when you were pivoting.
- 11:58Speaker 1: They were not You were doing it by yourself as
- 12:00Speaker 1: a young lady in New York City. I lived in
- 12:02Speaker 1: New York City when eighty nine. I was there in
- 12:05Speaker 1: a D eight I lived And when you talk about
- 12:07Speaker 1: the railroad apartment, I lived in the apartment where guess what,
- 12:10Speaker 1: I looked at the window. The garbage truck stopped every night,
- 12:13Speaker 1: woke me up at three am. I got right below
- 12:15Speaker 1: my window, got killed. I to go shower with ten
- 12:18Speaker 1: other people because guess what, there was a giant shower.
- 12:20Speaker 1: So I know exactly the struggle when you talk about pivoty,
- 12:24Speaker 1: you have to do some things that guess what, Duden
- 12:27Speaker 1: you tell the story because goof what God has allowed
- 12:29Speaker 1: you with your faith to be able to tell this story.
- 12:32Speaker 1: But let's talk about pivoty when it was not something
- 12:35Speaker 1: you could read in the book, that you had to
- 12:37Speaker 1: go just on your faith, your belief in your dreams.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Oh my God, that's so beautiful what you just said,
- 12:46Speaker 1: because basically you said it for me, and I'm so
- 12:50Speaker 1: grateful that you have felt the purpose of the book
- 12:55Speaker 1: Evening is a dance move. It is changing the direction
- 12:58Speaker 1: and headed into a better flow. I start out in
- 13:03Speaker 1: the book talking about step one, dare to dream. And
- 13:07Speaker 1: I used the word dare because when you're producing something
- 13:11Speaker 1: that hasn't been done before, you won't see it in
- 13:14Speaker 1: the world. You won't see the reflection because you are
- 13:20Speaker 1: the very thing that you're looking for. It's in you.
- 13:23Speaker 1: So there isn't dare. There isn't a risk to dream.
- 13:27Speaker 1: But I talked about it early so we can get
- 13:29Speaker 1: it out the way, and so you can establish a
- 13:32Speaker 1: confidence in the passion and in the dream, so that
- 13:36Speaker 1: you can hang onto that feeling when a pivot hits you.
- 13:40Speaker 1: So when I went to New York and I thought
- 13:43Speaker 1: I was studying at alban Elly, and all of a
- 13:45Speaker 1: sudden I went to a hip hop audition and I
- 13:47Speaker 1: began to feel something more and there was a pivot.
- 13:52Speaker 1: But yet I was like, how can I do hip hop?
- 13:54Speaker 1: When I was studying technical dancer, I thought I was
- 13:57Speaker 1: supposed to be at alban Elly but in trusting the
- 14:00Speaker 1: feeling of the dream, I realized that I had to
- 14:03Speaker 1: pivot because it wasn't just about dancing his great works.
- 14:08Speaker 1: It was about being inspired by Alvan Elly, J. Jamison,
- 14:13Speaker 1: Katherine Dunham. It was the fact that when I first
- 14:15Speaker 1: saw Ali, I saw a man who spoke about tribulation
- 14:21Speaker 1: and oppression through dance. I realized that his work as
- 14:25Speaker 1: a visionary was what was speaking to my purpose, to
- 14:29Speaker 1: my soul. It was moving me towards me understanding how
- 14:33Speaker 1: to create movement and artists that would speak to the circumstance.
- 14:39Speaker 1: So the pivot was necessary. And so the fact that
- 14:44Speaker 1: we're even talking about the pivot from a real place
- 14:46Speaker 1: like it's gonna feel uncomfortable. There will be a moment
- 14:52Speaker 1: where you're out there and you have no confirmation that
- 14:55Speaker 1: the pivot is right. But what you do know is
- 14:59Speaker 1: where you were didn't feel like all you could be,
- 15:04Speaker 1: which is why you have to hang onto the feeling
- 15:06Speaker 1: of the dream, because it's in the pivot that there
- 15:08Speaker 1: will be a moment where you're sustaining evidence of that
- 15:12Speaker 1: dream and you're becoming it. And so to be able
- 15:16Speaker 1: to pick up a book that will give you strength
- 15:19Speaker 1: during your pivot or while you're pivoting is key because
- 15:25Speaker 1: God gives each enevt one of us a different dreams
- 15:28Speaker 1: so that we can help each other to further empower
- 15:32Speaker 1: each other, so that we could live our perfect dreams
- 15:36Speaker 1: are individual dreams. So I think the pivot is not
- 15:40Speaker 1: something that's just to be taken lightly. Oh, it's easy.
- 15:44Speaker 1: Go ahead and pivot and don't feel nervous. Go have
- 15:47Speaker 1: it and pivot and don't feel sick in your stomach
- 15:50Speaker 1: when you're walking away from your nine to five to
- 15:53Speaker 1: open your own business. No, understand that those are all
- 15:58Speaker 1: flags that are directing you directly into the dream. And
- 16:02Speaker 1: it is scary. You do have to dare to dream,
- 16:05Speaker 1: but you already established that in step one. So continue
- 16:10Speaker 1: to dance because the next step will present itself. You'll
- 16:13Speaker 1: get confident in the idea that pivoting needs to the
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- 18:22Speaker 1: is interesting about your book. I I I turned Mr Christopher.
- 18:26Speaker 1: Every time a dream killer came in your life, it
- 18:28Speaker 1: was Mr Christopher. You know what I'm saying. So the too,
- 18:31Speaker 1: So be patient with me. Like the Mr Christopher started
- 18:33Speaker 1: way in your life and you ignored him, and I
- 18:35Speaker 1: called the restaurant owner. He's a Mr Christopher, Okay, the
- 18:41Speaker 1: person who who basically parted you and you missed out
- 18:45Speaker 1: on that opportunity in the Malcolm X movie, that was
- 18:48Speaker 1: a Mr Christopher how do we recognize the Mr Christopher's
- 18:51Speaker 1: in our world? Because your book talks about them. We
- 18:54Speaker 1: call them dream killers. There are individuals, these dream killers,
- 18:58Speaker 1: and they are people that sometimes you don't recognize them,
- 19:01Speaker 1: but they came into your life. You didn't let them win.
- 19:05Speaker 1: They I call emotionals. They were never physical setbacks because
- 19:09Speaker 1: you have your health. They were emotional moments. Say, but
- 19:12Speaker 1: you learn from you talk about how you learned. But
- 19:15Speaker 1: the thing I like consistently about your book, hard work
- 19:20Speaker 1: was never something you ran away from you. You admitted
- 19:24Speaker 1: your thoughts, you admitted your errors, and you were responsible
- 19:28Speaker 1: towards correcting them in another situation. And just talk about
- 19:33Speaker 1: that because I think that's important because a lot of people,
- 19:36Speaker 1: when they make mistakes, Your book discusses how to overcome
- 19:40Speaker 1: or not let that mistake win, because it's a mistake
- 19:43Speaker 1: that we all can make. Talk about that. Yeah, I
- 19:46Speaker 1: call them mishaps. You know, you follow out the dance,
- 19:49Speaker 1: you follow out the aid cap, but as a result
- 19:53Speaker 1: of the falling, something in you gets louder. The voice
- 19:58Speaker 1: of the dream, the feeling of the dream. Now you're
- 20:00Speaker 1: able to hear it because you're in a misstep. So
- 20:03Speaker 1: now you're like, Okay, I'm acknowledging it as a misstep
- 20:07Speaker 1: because I don't feel good making that decision. I didn't
- 20:11Speaker 1: feel good being late. I didn't feel like what was
- 20:14Speaker 1: inside of me was aligning itself with what Mr Christopher said.
- 20:21Speaker 1: He said I couldn't be a ballerina. My feet were
- 20:24Speaker 1: too flat, my back was arch. He literally said that
- 20:28Speaker 1: I wouldn't be a great dancer. But my dream told
- 20:32Speaker 1: me different. The feeling inside of me told me different,
- 20:35Speaker 1: and I hung on to that feeling, and as a
- 20:38Speaker 1: result of me being obedient to that feeling, I wasn't
- 20:41Speaker 1: afraid of the work that I needed to develop that
- 20:46Speaker 1: level of ability. I talked about training to sustain, getting
- 20:50Speaker 1: as much information as you need to be able to
- 20:53Speaker 1: persevere through a dream killer. It's the training, It's the
- 20:57Speaker 1: work you put into becoming that sustains you when someone
- 21:02Speaker 1: doesn't see what it is you're meant to become. Because
- 21:06Speaker 1: you're the one of the ones, You're a prototype. So
- 21:10Speaker 1: how how was Mr Christopher supposed to me? He never
- 21:15Speaker 1: saw a young black girl with that much belief, power
- 21:19Speaker 1: and authority when she danced. He was in a very
- 21:23Speaker 1: ignorant phase of his dance. So I tell those people too,
- 21:28Speaker 1: that our dream killers to get out of their period
- 21:32Speaker 1: of oppression and rejection to the greatness and others, because
- 21:36Speaker 1: they're ruining their own greatness in themselves. But the most
- 21:40Speaker 1: important thing as a visionary is to understand that you
- 21:45Speaker 1: must do the work. You must train get as much
- 21:48Speaker 1: knowledge to sustain the dream killers, because what you carry
- 21:55Speaker 1: maybe something original. You may be a prototype, and in
- 21:59Speaker 1: most cases everyone's dream is unique to themselves, and we
- 22:03Speaker 1: are all prototypes. We have something you need to offer,
- 22:07Speaker 1: and in understanding that philosophy and that methodology, you will
- 22:10Speaker 1: be less inclined to design yourself by what someone else
- 22:14Speaker 1: does and begin to embrace the conversation that I'm a prototype.
- 22:19Speaker 1: I gotta dance my dance because what I have to
- 22:21Speaker 1: do hasn't been done the way I'm going to do
- 22:25Speaker 1: it right right. You know that you know this. This
- 22:28Speaker 1: is no time wherever, time limit here. But I want
- 22:31Speaker 1: to ask you one more question. It's a couple of
- 22:33Speaker 1: things I wish I saw that I had sat a
- 22:35Speaker 1: picture of you and you go with black old cowboy
- 22:37Speaker 1: boots because I'm a Texas boy. So I fell in
- 22:39Speaker 1: love when you went out and thought you had to
- 22:41Speaker 1: help a pair of black cowboy boots and when you
- 22:44Speaker 1: went for that audition and heavy d and did In
- 22:47Speaker 1: How You Change and Walk Down Hip Hop se there's
- 22:49Speaker 1: a lot of things that I love about this book.
- 22:52Speaker 1: And the thing I love about this book the most
- 22:54Speaker 1: is that see, fear stops a lot of people. I
- 22:56Speaker 1: always tell people they don't want to change jobs or
- 22:59Speaker 1: they don't want to end relationships. You know, fear could
- 23:02Speaker 1: have stopped you with Lady God God, they keeping nas
- 23:04Speaker 1: to call you got with Michael, Michael Jackson, you was
- 23:07Speaker 1: working with Brandy. These are not these are not trivial
- 23:10Speaker 1: names that are thrown around in the book. They're just
- 23:13Speaker 1: examples to let you let people know that that you
- 23:16Speaker 1: had to make decisions and you couldn't be afraid when
- 23:19Speaker 1: you was making these decisions. And before I wrapped this interview,
- 23:22Speaker 1: I like to if you can just explain to people, yes,
- 23:25Speaker 1: you are afraid, your fear was in you, but faith
- 23:29Speaker 1: got you through that. But talk about that whole process
- 23:33Speaker 1: because a lot of people are stuck at jobs right
- 23:35Speaker 1: now that you quit their relationships they could walk away
- 23:38Speaker 1: from They're living in conditions that they can do better,
- 23:41Speaker 1: Like you said, but they refused to figure out a plan.
- 23:44Speaker 1: This book is about a plan and they if they
- 23:47Speaker 1: follow this plan. They have realized that this book might
- 23:50Speaker 1: have a lot of famous names in it. Just remove
- 23:52Speaker 1: the famous names and write their names, and the people
- 23:55Speaker 1: that are blocking them are helping them there in this book.
- 23:59Speaker 1: That's what I love this book, Miss Gibson, and I
- 24:01Speaker 1: want to thank you for writing it. But before I leave,
- 24:03Speaker 1: if you can expound on overcoming fear when great opportunities
- 24:07Speaker 1: are presenting themselves but you don't know the expectations of
- 24:10Speaker 1: what could happen. You're so awesome. I really am grateful
- 24:15Speaker 1: for you and your guidance and helping me express the
- 24:20Speaker 1: power of this book. So thank you so much for
- 24:23Speaker 1: dancing your dance, but most importantly for being your great self,
- 24:27Speaker 1: because it is blowing you away how much you're helping
- 24:30Speaker 1: people to understand the power of this book. So I'm
- 24:33Speaker 1: so humbled by that. Thank you. I believe and I
- 24:38Speaker 1: know that I wrote this book for the very reason
- 24:42Speaker 1: that if I can speak to your dream, I can
- 24:44Speaker 1: speak to your circumstance. So I know that fear did
- 24:48Speaker 1: not live in me, it lived around me, but faith
- 24:52Speaker 1: lived in me. Once you dare to dream, then the
- 24:55Speaker 1: possibilities of the beautiful power of that dream is about faith,
- 25:00Speaker 1: and faith is in the dream. So very early I
- 25:04Speaker 1: realized that faith was something that was around me, that
- 25:08Speaker 1: was something that was being projected towards me, and that
- 25:14Speaker 1: if I gave it life, if I said yes to it,
- 25:18Speaker 1: then that would actually become something I had to then
- 25:22Speaker 1: experience versus staying in my yes, which is an important
- 25:30Speaker 1: step four. It's a hard step to work because you
- 25:35Speaker 1: have to stay in something that you cannot see. You
- 25:39Speaker 1: have to stay in something that is deeply rooted in
- 25:42Speaker 1: the passion that you feel when you think about your dream,
- 25:48Speaker 1: and in doing so, you choose your dream over the fear.
- 25:53Speaker 1: And now you're saying to life, unfold according to God's plan, unfold,
- 26:02Speaker 1: according to the plan of my dream, my purpose, and
- 26:05Speaker 1: my destiny unfold, according to my dance, unfold according to
- 26:10Speaker 1: who I am. And again you choose the dream over
- 26:18Speaker 1: the fear. And suddenly what starts to rise in you
- 26:22Speaker 1: is confirmation, and the faith gets you to the next step.
- 26:29Speaker 1: Suddenly the phone rings, You pick up the phone, and
- 26:32Speaker 1: it reflects you staying in your yes and not the
- 26:36Speaker 1: fear of losing, but the faith of winning. So it
- 26:41Speaker 1: is about working the steps. It's not about expecting something
- 26:46Speaker 1: to happen magically overnight. No, it's about understanding when you're
- 26:52Speaker 1: facing it and you refuse to choose it, it's gonna come.
- 26:58Speaker 1: And when when when I have to pay that bill
- 27:01Speaker 1: and I didn't have a job and my grand was due,
- 27:03Speaker 1: I was like, okay, God, where am I? When I
- 27:05Speaker 1: was going to the foreign officer, she was like, you
- 27:07Speaker 1: have to go home. I was in that bathroom on
- 27:09Speaker 1: my knees, like, you gave me this dream. I'm gonna
- 27:12Speaker 1: need you to help me understand what I'm gonna have
- 27:14Speaker 1: to say when I go downstairs and they want me
- 27:16Speaker 1: to produce this paper that I don't have. And as
- 27:20Speaker 1: soon as I went downstairs go to test me on
- 27:26Speaker 1: this book, Pape, I got ther fook okause I was
- 27:34Speaker 1: the very woman that he expected me to produce a
- 27:37Speaker 1: paper that I did not have, a paper that would
- 27:40Speaker 1: send me home. Got fired. Yes, yes, And they were like, look,
- 27:47Speaker 1: miss Wanton is not here. I need you to go
- 27:49Speaker 1: back to your class. And what did that do? It
- 27:53Speaker 1: brought me time to do what I needed to do
- 27:56Speaker 1: to stay in my dreams. So I talked about these
- 28:00Speaker 1: situations to support another dreamer at that particular junction where
- 28:05Speaker 1: they need evidence of the yes, evidence of someone staying
- 28:08Speaker 1: in there. Yes. Not just the celebrating materialistically being bold,
- 28:15Speaker 1: being like braggadocious about what you have. This is not
- 28:19Speaker 1: what this book is about. This is about the coming
- 28:22Speaker 1: what you are. And at certain times I have to
- 28:25Speaker 1: talk about what I don't have and what I didn't
- 28:27Speaker 1: have so that you can understand the power of staying
- 28:31Speaker 1: in your yes, the power of your dream. So I'm
- 28:34Speaker 1: so grateful, but it is really important, especially now that
- 28:38Speaker 1: I speak to fear being around you, not in you,
- 28:43Speaker 1: so that you can understand how to stay in your yes,
- 28:46Speaker 1: which completely produces the faith and the confidence and the
- 28:49Speaker 1: perseverance you need to get to what you already are. Wow,
- 28:55Speaker 1: She's Laurie and Gibson. Dance your dance, She says. Numerous
- 28:58Speaker 1: inspirational stories and antidote, including coming up and dancing with
- 29:01Speaker 1: Genial Loaf, Jennifer Lopez, first time meeting Lady Gaga, working
- 29:05Speaker 1: with the late Michael Jackson, the early days of bringing
- 29:07Speaker 1: Nicki Minage of Barbie World to life, A long time
- 29:10Speaker 1: collaboration is p Diddy and you're fantastic. I want to
- 29:13Speaker 1: thank you for taking the time again. I'm supporting this
- 29:16Speaker 1: book Lauren Gibson Dance your Dance. Thanks for coming on
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- 29:28Speaker 1: Begetting Conversation, please go to Money Making Conversation dot com.
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