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Harnessing Joy: The Key to Human-Centered Learning · The Wheelhouse

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  What
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  is
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  joy?
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  What
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  does
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  it
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  mean
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  for
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  a
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  student
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  to
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  experience
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  joy
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  filled
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  learning?
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  What
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  about
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  a
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  teacher?
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  Where
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  does
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  engagement
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  fit
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  into
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  this
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  picture?
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  And
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  just
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  exactly
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  what
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  role
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  does
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  joy
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  play?
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  In
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  future
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  ready
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  schools
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  where
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  innovation
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  is
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  rooted
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  in
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  humanity,
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  a
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  new
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  episode
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  of
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  the
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  Wheelhouse
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  begins
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  Right
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  now.
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  The
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  future
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  of
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  education
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  depends
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  on
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  a
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  radical
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  humanization
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  of
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  schools.
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  Places
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  where
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  hope
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  is
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  cultivated,
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  opportunities
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  are
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  opened,
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  and
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  innovation
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  is
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  harnessed
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  to
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  serve
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  humanity.
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  Only
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  then
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  can
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  we
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  create
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  futures
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  worthy
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  of
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  each
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  student's
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  dreams.
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  We
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  begin
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  by
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  cultivating
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  hope.
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  We
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  ensure
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  possibilities
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  are
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  real
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  and
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  accessible.
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  We
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  design
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  futures
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  rooted
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  in
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  humanity.
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  The
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  future
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  is
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  already
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  here
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  and
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  it
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  must
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  be
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  deeply
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  human
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  centered.
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  The
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  Wheelhouse
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  exists
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  to
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  create
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  an
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  inclusive
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  community
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  of
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  empowered
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  educators
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  who
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  believe
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  that
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  together
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  we
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  can
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  disrupt
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  the
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  transactional
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  nature
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  of
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  schooling
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  and
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  reimagine
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  what
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  it
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  means
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  to
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  learn,
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  to
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  lead
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  and
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  to
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  belong.
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  We
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  envision
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  schools,
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  districts
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  and
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  classrooms
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  where
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  every
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  student
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  feels
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  confident,
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  capable,
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  optimistic,
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  well
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  supported
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  and
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  emboldened
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  to
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  be
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  and
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  to
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  become
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  who
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  they're
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  meant
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  to
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  be.
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  Each
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  episode
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  of
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  the
• 1:34
  Wheelhouse
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  explores
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  the
• 1:35
  knowledge,
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  practices
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  and
• 1:37
  stories
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  that
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  bring
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  this
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  vision
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  to
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  life.
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  Our
• 1:40
  team,
• 1:40
  Kathy
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  mone,
• 1:41
  Michael
• 1:41
  Pipa,
• 1:42
  Dr.
• 1:42
  Alicia
• 1:43
  Monroe
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  and
• 1:43
  I,
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  the
• 1:44
  Dr.
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  Grant
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  Chandler,
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  alongside
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  our
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  guests,
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  take
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  on
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  the
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  fundamental
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  challenge
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  of
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  realizing
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  what
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  we
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  most
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  want
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  every
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  student
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  to
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  experience
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  in
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  school.
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  Dignity,
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  agency
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  and
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  belonging.
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  In
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  season
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  11,
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  we
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  ask
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  a
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  simple
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  but
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  profound
• 2:00
  question.
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  Where
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  are
• 2:01
  we
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  going?
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  We
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  strive
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  toward
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  future
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  ready
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  learning
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  that
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  keeps
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  humanity
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  at
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  its
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  core.
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  Under
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  the
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  theme
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  future
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  ready
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  Innovation
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  rooted
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  in
• 2:11
  humanity,
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  we
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  affirm
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  that
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  future
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  readiness
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  is
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  not
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  defined
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  by
• 2:15
  devices
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  or
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  data,
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  but
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  by
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  our
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  shared
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  humanity.
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  True
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  innovation
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  doesn't
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  replace
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  human
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  connection,
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  it
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  amplifies
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  it.
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  A
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  future
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  ready
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  school
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  prepares
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  students
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  to
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  thrive
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  by
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  honoring
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  their
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  identities,
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  nurturing
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  their
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  creativity,
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  and
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  equipping
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  them
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  to
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  engage
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  with
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  a
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  changing
• 2:35
  world
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  from
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  a
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  place
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  of
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  strength
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  and
• 2:38
  purpose.
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  Last
• 2:40
  time
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  we
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  talked
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  about
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  how
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  innovation
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  must
• 2:42
  be
• 2:43
  rooted
• 2:43
  in
• 2:43
  humanity.
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  In
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  today's
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  episode,
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  we're
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  turning
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  to
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  one
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  of
• 2:47
  the
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  most
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  human
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  elements
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  of
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  all.
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  Joy.
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  What
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  happens
• 2:51
  when
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  joy
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  isn't
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  just
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  an
• 2:53
  outcome
• 2:54
  of
• 2:54
  learning,
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  but
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  it's
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  the
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  engine
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  that
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  drives
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  us?
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  You're
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  listening
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  to
• 2:59
  season
• 2:59
  11,
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  episode
• 3:01
  two
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  of
• 3:01
  the
• 3:01
  Wheelhouse,
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  and
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  a
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  powerful
• 3:04
  conversation
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  on
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  leading
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  with
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  humanity.
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  Let's
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  dive
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  in.
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  Good
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  morning
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  and
• 3:16
  welcome
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  to
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  the
• 3:17
  Wheelhouse.
• 3:18
  This
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  is
• 3:18
  season
• 3:19
  11.
• 3:19
  We're
• 3:19
  in
• 3:20
  episode
• 3:20
  two.
• 3:21
  I
• 3:21
  am
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  with
• 3:23
  amazing
• 3:23
  people,
• 3:24
  Kathy
• 3:25
  Mone,
• 3:25
  Michael
• 3:25
  Pipa
• 3:26
  and
• 3:26
  Dr.
• 3:26
  Alicia
• 3:27
  Monroe.
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  Good
• 3:27
  morning.
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  Good
• 3:30
  morning.
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  If
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  everyone
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  could
• 3:34
  just
• 3:34
  see
• 3:34
  the
• 3:35
  smiles
• 3:36
  just
• 3:36
  shining
• 3:38
  on
• 3:39
  every
• 3:39
  face.
• 3:40
  We
• 3:40
  just
• 3:40
  love
• 3:40
  this
• 3:41
  time
• 3:41
  together.
• 3:42
  We
• 3:42
  do.
• 3:43
  I
• 3:43
  just
• 3:43
  gotta
• 3:44
  say,
• 3:44
  because
• 3:44
  I
• 3:44
  haven't
• 3:45
  talked
• 3:45
  to
• 3:45
  you
• 3:45
  since
• 3:45
  I
• 3:46
  edited
• 3:47
  the
• 3:47
  after
• 3:48
  show.
• 3:49
  The
• 3:49
  wheelhouse.
• 3:50
  All
• 3:50
  hands
• 3:50
  on
• 3:51
  deck.
• 3:51
  Wow.
• 3:52
  I
• 3:52
  just
• 3:53
  got
• 3:53
  to
• 3:53
  tell
• 3:53
  you
• 3:53
  folks
• 3:53
  who
• 3:53
  are
• 3:54
  listening,
• 3:54
  we
• 3:54
  get
• 3:55
  a
• 3:55
  little,
• 3:55
  as
• 3:55
  Michael
• 3:56
  said,
• 3:56
  we
• 3:56
  get
• 3:56
  a
• 3:57
  little
• 3:57
  salty
• 3:58
  when
• 3:59
  we
• 3:59
  let
• 4:00
  our
• 4:00
  hair
• 4:00
  down
• 4:01
  a
• 4:01
  little
• 4:01
  bit.
• 4:01
  And
• 4:01
  it
• 4:02
  was
• 4:02
  a
• 4:02
  great
• 4:03
  conversation.
• 4:05
  So
• 4:05
  certainly
• 4:06
  encourage
• 4:06
  you
• 4:06
  to
• 4:07
  follow
• 4:07
  up
• 4:08
  from
• 4:08
  episode
• 4:09
  one
• 4:10
  and
• 4:10
  join
• 4:10
  us
• 4:10
  in
• 4:11
  Below
• 4:11
  deck,
• 4:12
  the
• 4:12
  wheelhouse
• 4:13
  Below
• 4:13
  deck
• 4:13
  and
• 4:14
  take
• 4:14
  a
• 4:14
  listen
• 4:15
  to
• 4:15
  see
• 4:15
  the
• 4:16
  episode
• 4:16
  one
• 4:16
  of
• 4:17
  all
• 4:17
  hands
• 4:17
  on
• 4:17
  deck.
• 4:18
  So
• 4:18
  many
• 4:18
  decks.
• 4:19
  So
• 4:19
  many
• 4:19
  decks,
• 4:20
  Right?
• 4:21
  And
• 4:22
  Below
• 4:23
  deck
• 4:23
  we're
• 4:24
  on.
• 4:24
  We're
• 4:25
  all
• 4:25
  hands
• 4:25
  on.
• 4:26
  There's
• 4:26
  just
• 4:26
  so
• 4:26
  much
• 4:27
  to
• 4:27
  talk
• 4:27
  about.
• 4:28
  Right?
• 4:29
  But
• 4:29
  what
• 4:29
  an
• 4:30
  incredible
• 4:30
  conversation.
• 4:31
  I'm
• 4:31
  not
• 4:31
  even
• 4:31
  going
• 4:32
  to
• 4:32
  tell
• 4:32
  you
• 4:32
  what
• 4:32
  it
• 4:32
  was
• 4:32
  about,
• 4:33
  but
• 4:33
  it
• 4:34
  was
• 4:34
  an
• 4:34
  extension
• 4:35
  of
• 4:35
  last
• 4:35
  week's
• 4:35
  episode
• 4:36
  and
• 4:36
  it
• 4:36
  was
• 4:37
  just,
• 4:38
  it
• 4:38
  was
• 4:38
  just
• 4:38
  incredible.
• 4:39
  So
• 4:39
  I
• 4:39
  want
• 4:39
  to
• 4:40
  say
• 4:40
  thank
• 4:40
  you
• 4:40
  to
• 4:40
  you
• 4:41
  guys
• 4:41
  for
• 4:42
  your
• 4:42
  vulnerability
• 4:43
  and
• 4:43
  the
• 4:44
  great
• 4:44
  things
• 4:44
  that
• 4:45
  you
• 4:45
  had
• 4:46
  to
• 4:46
  say
• 4:46
  and
• 4:46
  I
• 4:47
  can't
• 4:47
  wait
• 4:47
  to
• 4:47
  engage
• 4:48
  people
• 4:48
  in
• 4:49
  that
• 4:49
  conversation.
• 4:50
  So
• 4:51
  welcome
• 4:51
  to
• 4:52
  episode
• 4:53
  two,
• 4:54
  which
• 4:54
  I'm
• 4:54
  super
• 4:55
  excited
• 4:55
  about
• 4:56
  as
• 4:56
  well.
• 4:57
  You
• 4:57
  know,
• 4:57
  last
• 4:57
  week
• 4:58
  we
• 4:58
  talked
• 4:58
  about
• 4:59
  how
• 4:59
  it's
• 5:00
  our
• 5:00
  theme,
• 5:00
  right?
• 5:01
  The
• 5:01
  theme
• 5:02
  this
• 5:02
  season
• 5:03
  is
• 5:03
  future
• 5:04
  ready
• 5:04
  innovation
• 5:05
  rooted
• 5:06
  in
• 5:06
  humanity.
• 5:08
  And
• 5:08
  today
• 5:08
  we're
• 5:09
  going
• 5:09
  to
• 5:09
  talk
• 5:09
  about
• 5:11
  one
• 5:11
  of
• 5:11
  the
• 5:11
  most
• 5:12
  human
• 5:13
  elements
• 5:13
  of
• 5:13
  all,
• 5:15
  Joy.
• 5:16
  What
• 5:17
  happens
• 5:18
  when
• 5:18
  joy
• 5:19
  isn't
• 5:20
  just
• 5:20
  an
• 5:20
  outcome
• 5:21
  of
• 5:21
  learning,
• 5:23
  but
• 5:23
  it's
• 5:23
  the
• 5:24
  engine
• 5:25
  that
• 5:25
  drives
• 5:26
  it.
• 5:27
  Joy.
• 5:28
  What
• 5:28
  an
• 5:29
  incredible
• 5:29
  word,
• 5:30
  that
• 5:30
  three
• 5:31
  letter
• 5:31
  word.
• 5:32
  So
• 5:32
  before
• 5:33
  I
• 5:33
  just
• 5:33
  start
• 5:33
  grilling
• 5:34
  you
• 5:34
  with
• 5:34
  questions,
• 5:36
  just
• 5:36
  let's
• 5:37
  just
• 5:37
  sit
• 5:37
  there
• 5:38
  in
• 5:38
  that
• 5:38
  space
• 5:38
  for
• 5:39
  a
• 5:39
  moment.
• 5:39
  Wouldn't
• 5:40
  it
• 5:40
  be
• 5:40
  incredible
• 5:42
  if
• 5:43
  our
• 5:43
  children
• 5:43
  and
• 5:44
  our
• 5:44
  educators
• 5:46
  came
• 5:46
  to
• 5:46
  school
• 5:47
  every
• 5:47
  day
• 5:48
  and
• 5:48
  experienced
• 5:50
  joy?
• 5:51
  It
• 5:52
  would
• 5:52
  absolutely
• 5:53
  exude
• 5:54
  what
• 5:54
  the
• 5:54
  four
• 5:55
  of
• 5:55
  us
• 5:56
  feel
• 5:56
  when
• 5:57
  we
• 5:57
  get
• 5:57
  together.
• 5:58
  So
• 5:59
  we
• 5:59
  talked
• 5:59
  about
• 6:00
  that
• 6:00
  during
• 6:00
  the,
• 6:01
  the
• 6:01
  pre
• 6:02
  show,
• 6:02
  if
• 6:02
  you
• 6:03
  will,
• 6:03
  as
• 6:03
  we
• 6:03
  are
• 6:04
  getting
• 6:04
  ready
• 6:04
  for
• 6:04
  this
• 6:05
  conversation
• 6:06
  and
• 6:07
  how
• 6:07
  much
• 6:07
  we
• 6:08
  look
• 6:08
  forward
• 6:08
  to
• 6:08
  this,
• 6:09
  how
• 6:09
  much
• 6:11
  we
• 6:11
  feel
• 6:12
  like
• 6:13
  we
• 6:13
  belong
• 6:14
  and
• 6:14
  we
• 6:14
  matter
• 6:15
  and
• 6:15
  we
• 6:15
  can
• 6:16
  be
• 6:16
  vulnerable
• 6:17
  and
• 6:17
  all
• 6:17
  of
• 6:17
  those
• 6:18
  pieces,
• 6:19
  we
• 6:19
  want
• 6:19
  to
• 6:20
  be
• 6:20
  here,
• 6:20
  we
• 6:21
  choose
• 6:21
  to
• 6:21
  be
• 6:22
  here.
• 6:23
  The
• 6:23
  joy
• 6:24
  that
• 6:24
  exudes
• 6:25
  from
• 6:26
  us
• 6:27
  physically,
• 6:28
  emotionally,
• 6:31
  to
• 6:31
  me,
• 6:32
  that
• 6:33
  is
• 6:33
  what
• 6:35
  it
• 6:35
  looks
• 6:36
  like,
• 6:37
  it
• 6:37
  should
• 6:37
  look
• 6:38
  like
• 6:38
  and
• 6:38
  feel
• 6:39
  like
• 6:39
  for
• 6:39
  each
• 6:40
  and
• 6:40
  every
• 6:40
  student
• 6:42
  in
• 6:42
  a
• 6:42
  classroom.
• 6:44
  So
• 6:44
  in
• 6:44
  response,
• 6:45
  Kathy,
• 6:46
  when
• 6:46
  I
• 6:47
  do
• 6:48
  my
• 6:48
  work
• 6:48
  on
• 6:48
  the
• 6:49
  difference
• 6:49
  between
• 6:49
  happiness
• 6:50
  and
• 6:50
  joy,
• 6:52
  what
• 6:52
  we
• 6:52
  experience
• 6:53
  in
• 6:54
  this
• 6:54
  space
• 6:54
  is
• 6:56
  an
• 6:56
  internal
• 6:56
  wellspring
• 6:57
  of
• 6:57
  purpose
• 6:58
  and
• 6:58
  passion
• 7:00
  that's
• 7:00
  very
• 7:01
  different
• 7:01
  from
• 7:01
  happiness,
• 7:02
  which
• 7:02
  is
• 7:02
  episodic
• 7:04
  and
• 7:04
  is
• 7:04
  linked
• 7:05
  to
• 7:05
  situations
• 7:06
  and
• 7:07
  circumstances
• 7:08
  that
• 7:08
  could
• 7:08
  be
• 7:09
  temporal
• 7:10
  in
• 7:11
  nature.
• 7:12
  Joy
• 7:13
  is
• 7:13
  that
• 7:14
  internal
• 7:15
  sweet
• 7:16
  spot,
• 7:16
  that
• 7:17
  space
• 7:18
  that
• 7:19
  regardless
• 7:20
  of
• 7:20
  the
• 7:20
  chaos
• 7:21
  that's
• 7:21
  going
• 7:22
  on
• 7:22
  around
• 7:22
  us,
• 7:23
  we
• 7:23
  have
• 7:23
  peace.
• 7:25
  So
• 7:25
  when
• 7:25
  we
• 7:26
  talk
• 7:26
  about
• 7:26
  future
• 7:26
  ready
• 7:27
  schools,
• 7:28
  we
• 7:29
  want
• 7:29
  all
• 7:30
  educators
• 7:30
  and
• 7:31
  Students
• 7:32
  to
• 7:32
  have
• 7:33
  joy.
• 7:34
  You
• 7:34
  know,
• 7:34
  we
• 7:34
  define
• 7:35
  that
• 7:35
  in
• 7:36
  powerful
• 7:36
  student
• 7:36
  care
• 7:37
  as,
• 7:38
  what
• 7:38
  would
• 7:39
  a
• 7:39
  student
• 7:39
  say
• 7:40
  if
• 7:40
  they
• 7:40
  experienced
• 7:41
  the
• 7:42
  joy
• 7:42
  of
• 7:42
  learning?
• 7:43
  Because
• 7:43
  joy,
• 7:44
  like
• 7:45
  Alicia
• 7:45
  said,
• 7:45
  it's
• 7:46
  not
• 7:46
  like,
• 7:46
  ha,
• 7:46
  ha,
• 7:46
  ha,
• 7:47
  that
• 7:47
  was
• 7:47
  so
• 7:47
  much
• 7:47
  fun.
• 7:48
  It's
• 7:48
  about
• 7:49
  authenticity
• 7:51
  and
• 7:51
  purpose,
• 7:51
  right?
• 7:52
  That
• 7:52
  a
• 7:52
  student
• 7:53
  would
• 7:53
  say,
• 7:54
  wow,
• 7:55
  I
• 7:55
  find
• 7:56
  purpose
• 7:56
  here.
• 7:58
  What
• 7:58
  we're
• 7:59
  doing
• 8:00
  is
• 8:00
  not
• 8:01
  only
• 8:01
  connecting
• 8:02
  to
• 8:02
  my
• 8:02
  life
• 8:02
  now,
• 8:03
  but
• 8:03
  it's
• 8:04
  preparing
• 8:04
  me
• 8:05
  for
• 8:05
  my
• 8:05
  life
• 8:06
  in
• 8:06
  the
• 8:06
  future
• 8:07
  too.
• 8:08
  And
• 8:08
  I
• 8:08
  can
• 8:09
  see
• 8:09
  that.
• 8:10
  And
• 8:10
  because
• 8:10
  of
• 8:11
  that,
• 8:11
  I
• 8:12
  find
• 8:12
  purpose
• 8:13
  here.
• 8:14
  I
• 8:14
  love
• 8:15
  the
• 8:16
  rooting
• 8:17
  of
• 8:18
  joy
• 8:19
  in
• 8:20
  the
• 8:21
  feeling
• 8:21
  of
• 8:21
  belonging
• 8:22
  and
• 8:23
  the
• 8:23
  sense
• 8:23
  of
• 8:23
  purpose.
• 8:25
  And
• 8:26
  of
• 8:26
  all
• 8:27
  days,
• 8:28
  I
• 8:29
  find
• 8:29
  myself
• 8:29
  kind
• 8:30
  of
• 8:30
  struggling
• 8:30
  with
• 8:31
  trying
• 8:32
  to
• 8:32
  put
• 8:33
  my
• 8:34
  finger
• 8:35
  on
• 8:36
  joy
• 8:37
  and
• 8:38
  when
• 8:39
  and
• 8:40
  how
• 8:40
  and
• 8:40
  why
• 8:40
  it
• 8:41
  is
• 8:42
  I
• 8:42
  experience
• 8:42
  it.
• 8:43
  And
• 8:44
  this
• 8:45
  morning,
• 8:45
  I
• 8:46
  felt
• 8:46
  the
• 8:47
  tension
• 8:48
  between
• 8:50
  joy
• 8:50
  and
• 8:50
  struggle.
• 8:52
  And
• 8:53
  that
• 8:54
  oftentimes
• 8:54
  when
• 8:55
  I
• 8:55
  feel
• 8:55
  joy,
• 8:56
  it's
• 8:57
  because
• 8:57
  I've
• 8:58
  lived
• 8:58
  a
• 8:59
  stretch
• 9:01
  without
• 9:02
  it.
• 9:03
  And
• 9:03
  there's
• 9:03
  been
• 9:04
  tremendous
• 9:04
  adversity,
• 9:05
  there's
• 9:06
  been
• 9:06
  tremendous
• 9:07
  struggles.
• 9:09
  And
• 9:10
  it
• 9:10
  makes
• 9:10
  me
• 9:12
  dig
• 9:13
  deeper
• 9:15
  and
• 9:15
  do
• 9:15
  my
• 9:15
  inventory
• 9:16
  of
• 9:16
  appreciation
• 9:17
  and
• 9:18
  gratitude.
• 9:20
  And
• 9:20
  then
• 9:20
  I
• 9:21
  start
• 9:21
  finding
• 9:23
  the
• 9:23
  green
• 9:24
  shoots
• 9:24
  of
• 9:24
  joy
• 9:25
  that
• 9:25
  have
• 9:25
  been
• 9:25
  living
• 9:26
  beneath
• 9:27
  so
• 9:27
  many
• 9:27
  things
• 9:28
  piercing
• 9:29
  the
• 9:29
  surface.
• 9:31
  But
• 9:32
  I
• 9:32
  also
• 9:32
  know
• 9:33
  that
• 9:33
  it's
• 9:33
  because
• 9:34
  that
• 9:35
  sense
• 9:35
  of
• 9:35
  purpose
• 9:36
  keeps
• 9:37
  me
• 9:37
  hanging
• 9:37
  in
• 9:38
  there,
• 9:38
  keeps
• 9:39
  me
• 9:39
  pushing,
• 9:40
  keeps
• 9:40
  me
• 9:41
  in
• 9:41
  the
• 9:41
  adverse
• 9:42
  situation
• 9:43
  despite
• 9:44
  the
• 9:45
  struggle.
• 9:46
  So,
• 9:46
  you
• 9:46
  know,
• 9:47
  we've
• 9:47
  been
• 9:48
  for
• 9:49
  35
• 9:49
  or
• 9:49
  40
• 9:50
  years,
• 9:50
  and,
• 9:50
  you
• 9:50
  know,
• 9:50
  last
• 9:51
  week,
• 9:51
  Alicia
• 9:52
  gave
• 9:52
  us
• 9:52
  the
• 9:52
  history
• 9:53
  of
• 9:53
  some
• 9:53
  of
• 9:53
  the
• 9:53
  movements
• 9:54
  that
• 9:54
  have
• 9:54
  been
• 9:55
  in
• 9:55
  education,
• 9:56
  right?
• 9:56
  And
• 9:57
  we've
• 9:57
  been
• 9:57
  after.
• 9:58
  We've
• 9:59
  been,
• 9:59
  you
• 9:59
  know,
• 9:59
  if
• 9:59
  you
• 10:00
  take
• 10:00
  all
• 10:00
  of
• 10:01
  them,
• 10:01
  you
• 10:02
  know,
• 10:02
  what
• 10:02
  do
• 10:02
  they
• 10:02
  have
• 10:02
  in
• 10:03
  common?
• 10:03
  They've
• 10:03
  all
• 10:04
  been
• 10:04
  after
• 10:05
  standardized
• 10:06
  achievement.
• 10:07
  They've
• 10:08
  all
• 10:08
  been
• 10:08
  after
• 10:09
  reading
• 10:10
  proficiency.
• 10:11
  Right.
• 10:11
  How
• 10:11
  many
• 10:11
  states
• 10:12
  have
• 10:12
  reading,
• 10:12
  you
• 10:12
  know,
• 10:13
  reading
• 10:13
  proficiency
• 10:14
  laws
• 10:14
  by
• 10:14
  grade
• 10:15
  three?
• 10:15
  And
• 10:15
  we
• 10:16
  struggle
• 10:16
  with
• 10:16
  that.
• 10:16
  And,
• 10:17
  you
• 10:17
  know,
• 10:17
  we
• 10:17
  aren't
• 10:18
  hitting
• 10:18
  it.
• 10:18
  And
• 10:18
  then
• 10:18
  we're
• 10:18
  not,
• 10:18
  you
• 10:19
  know,
• 10:20
  we
• 10:20
  are
• 10:20
  struggling
• 10:20
  with
• 10:20
  our
• 10:21
  English
• 10:21
  language
• 10:21
  learners.
• 10:22
  We're
• 10:22
  struggling
• 10:22
  with
• 10:22
  math
• 10:23
  proficiency.
• 10:24
  So
• 10:24
  maybe
• 10:25
  we're
• 10:25
  focused
• 10:26
  on
• 10:26
  the
• 10:26
  wrong
• 10:27
  thing,
• 10:27
  which,
• 10:27
  of
• 10:27
  course,
• 10:28
  is
• 10:28
  what
• 10:29
  we've
• 10:29
  all
• 10:29
  been
• 10:29
  saying
• 10:29
  for
• 10:30
  a
• 10:30
  long
• 10:30
  time.
• 10:31
  And
• 10:31
  so
• 10:31
  if
• 10:31
  we
• 10:32
  put
• 10:32
  this
• 10:32
  in
• 10:32
  the
• 10:32
  context
• 10:33
  of
• 10:33
  joy,
• 10:35
  wouldn't
• 10:35
  that
• 10:36
  be
• 10:37
  a
• 10:37
  more
• 10:38
  powerful
• 10:38
  measure
• 10:40
  of
• 10:40
  readiness?
• 10:42
  So
• 10:42
  joy
• 10:42
  is
• 10:43
  inextricably
• 10:43
  linked
• 10:44
  to
• 10:44
  hope,
• 10:46
  dignity.
• 10:47
  And
• 10:47
  I
• 10:47
  can
• 10:48
  go
• 10:48
  on
• 10:48
  and
• 10:48
  on
• 10:50
  because
• 10:50
  those
• 10:51
  are
• 10:51
  the
• 10:51
  guiding
• 10:51
  principles
• 10:52
  and
• 10:52
  the
• 10:52
  core
• 10:53
  values
• 10:53
  of
• 10:53
  the
• 10:54
  wheelhouse.
• 10:55
  Absolutely
• 10:56
  right.
• 10:57
  Powerful
• 10:58
  student
• 10:58
  care,
• 10:59
  whole
• 10:59
  child,
• 11:00
  accomplished,
• 11:01
  driven
• 11:02
  leaders.
• 11:02
  I
• 11:02
  could
• 11:03
  go
• 11:03
  on
• 11:03
  and
• 11:03
  on
• 11:04
  and
• 11:04
  on.
• 11:05
  So
• 11:06
  how
• 11:06
  do
• 11:06
  we
• 11:06
  provide
• 11:07
  joy,
• 11:08
  space,
• 11:10
  and
• 11:10
  hope
• 11:11
  opportunities?
• 11:11
  Right?
• 11:12
  Hope
• 11:12
  potential.
• 11:14
  How
• 11:14
  about
• 11:14
  that?
• 11:15
  Let's
• 11:15
  look
• 11:15
  at
• 11:16
  joy,
• 11:17
  space,
• 11:17
  and
• 11:17
  hope
• 11:18
  potential.
• 11:19
  If
• 11:19
  all
• 11:20
  students
• 11:20
  don't
• 11:20
  belong.
• 11:22
  And
• 11:22
  Michael,
• 11:22
  you
• 11:22
  talked
• 11:23
  about
• 11:23
  belonging,
• 11:23
  right?
• 11:24
  If
• 11:25
  all
• 11:25
  students
• 11:26
  and
• 11:26
  every
• 11:26
  student
• 11:26
  doesn't
• 11:27
  matter,
• 11:28
  this
• 11:28
  is
• 11:28
  where
• 11:28
  we
• 11:29
  look
• 11:29
  at
• 11:29
  ourselves
• 11:29
  in
• 11:30
  the
• 11:30
  mirror,
• 11:32
  right
• 11:32
  back
• 11:32
  to
• 11:33
  season
• 11:33
  nine.
• 11:34
  And
• 11:34
  we
• 11:34
  should
• 11:35
  be
• 11:35
  asking
• 11:35
  ourselves,
• 11:36
  are
• 11:37
  we
• 11:37
  cultivating
• 11:38
  hope
• 11:39
  or
• 11:39
  are
• 11:39
  we
• 11:40
  killing
• 11:40
  dreams?
• 11:42
  And
• 11:42
  are
• 11:42
  we
• 11:43
  looking
• 11:43
  at
• 11:43
  a
• 11:43
  student
• 11:44
  as
• 11:44
  a
• 11:44
  universal
• 11:45
  identification
• 11:47
  code,
• 11:48
  right,
• 11:48
  A
• 11:49
  UIC
• 11:49
  number?
• 11:50
  Or
• 11:50
  are
• 11:50
  we
• 11:50
  looking
• 11:51
  at
• 11:51
  them
• 11:51
  as
• 11:51
  a
• 11:51
  human
• 11:52
  being?
• 11:54
  Whether
• 11:54
  or
• 11:54
  not
• 11:55
  we
• 11:55
  understand
• 11:57
  that
• 11:57
  human,
• 11:58
  whether
• 11:58
  or
• 11:58
  not
• 11:58
  we
• 11:59
  live
• 11:59
  like
• 12:00
  that
• 12:00
  human,
• 12:00
  whether
• 12:01
  or
• 12:01
  not
• 12:01
  we
• 12:02
  look
• 12:02
  like
• 12:02
  that
• 12:03
  human.
• 12:05
  As
• 12:05
  we
• 12:05
  approach
• 12:07
  supporting
• 12:08
  each
• 12:08
  human
• 12:09
  being,
• 12:11
  we
• 12:11
  should
• 12:11
  be
• 12:11
  focusing
• 12:12
  on
• 12:12
  whether
• 12:12
  or
• 12:13
  not
• 12:13
  they're
• 12:14
  experiencing
• 12:14
  all
• 12:15
  of
• 12:15
  these
• 12:15
  things,
• 12:16
  right?
• 12:16
  Hope,
• 12:17
  belonging,
• 12:18
  being
• 12:18
  valued,
• 12:19
  mattering,
• 12:20
  dignity,
• 12:21
  all
• 12:21
  of
• 12:21
  that.
• 12:22
  And
• 12:22
  then
• 12:22
  when
• 12:22
  the
• 12:23
  way
• 12:24
  I
• 12:24
  organize
• 12:24
  instruction
• 12:26
  better,
• 12:26
  make
• 12:27
  sure
• 12:27
  they're
• 12:27
  experiencing
• 12:28
  joy.
• 12:29
  And
• 12:30
  the
• 12:30
  only
• 12:30
  way
• 12:30
  I
• 12:30
  can
• 12:30
  do
• 12:30
  that
• 12:30
  is
• 12:31
  if
• 12:31
  I
• 12:31
  know
• 12:31
  them
• 12:32
  and.
• 12:32
  Care
• 12:33
  about
• 12:33
  them,
• 12:34
  and
• 12:34
  if
• 12:34
  I
• 12:35
  have.
• 12:35
  Empathy,
• 12:36
  which
• 12:36
  starts
• 12:37
  then
• 12:37
  with
• 12:38
  me
• 12:38
  as
• 12:39
  an
• 12:39
  educator.
• 12:39
  Just
• 12:40
  like
• 12:40
  you
• 12:40
  were
• 12:40
  saying,
• 12:40
  Alicia,
• 12:41
  I
• 12:41
  mean,
• 12:42
  how.
• 12:44
  How
• 12:44
  do.
• 12:45
  How
• 12:45
  can
• 12:45
  students
• 12:46
  even
• 12:46
  begin
• 12:48
  to
• 12:48
  feel
• 12:49
  all
• 12:49
  of
• 12:49
  that
• 12:50
  if
• 12:51
  I'm
• 12:52
  walking
• 12:53
  in
• 12:54
  tainted
• 12:55
  and
• 12:56
  not
• 12:56
  believing
• 12:58
  that
• 12:58
  each
• 12:58
  student
• 12:59
  matters?
• 13:00
  So
• 13:01
  I'm
• 13:01
  either
• 13:02
  that
• 13:02
  cultivating
• 13:03
  hope
• 13:03
  or
• 13:03
  killing
• 13:04
  dreams.
• 13:04
  I'm
• 13:04
  either
• 13:05
  exuding
• 13:06
  joy
• 13:07
  or
• 13:08
  I'm
• 13:09
  exuding
• 13:10
  this
• 13:10
  level
• 13:11
  of.
• 13:11
  Ultimately
• 13:13
  can
• 13:13
  feel
• 13:13
  like
• 13:13
  hatred
• 13:15
  because
• 13:15
  I
• 13:16
  don't
• 13:16
  matter.
• 13:17
  Because
• 13:18
  if
• 13:18
  I
• 13:19
  come
• 13:19
  in
• 13:19
  with
• 13:20
  this
• 13:21
  core
• 13:21
  belief
• 13:23
  that
• 13:25
  certain
• 13:26
  groups
• 13:27
  of
• 13:27
  people,
• 13:28
  certain
• 13:29
  children,
• 13:30
  don't
• 13:31
  matter,
• 13:33
  then
• 13:34
  as
• 13:34
  a
• 13:35
  child,
• 13:35
  as
• 13:35
  a
• 13:36
  student,
• 13:37
  that's
• 13:38
  what
• 13:38
  I'm
• 13:38
  feeling.
• 13:39
  That's
• 13:39
  what
• 13:39
  I'm
• 13:40
  learning
• 13:41
  from
• 13:41
  the
• 13:41
  adults
• 13:42
  that
• 13:43
  are
• 13:43
  entrusted
• 13:44
  with
• 13:46
  my
• 13:46
  care
• 13:47
  for
• 13:48
  more
• 13:48
  hours
• 13:48
  of
• 13:49
  the
• 13:49
  day
• 13:49
  than
• 13:50
  my
• 13:51
  family
• 13:51
  members,
• 13:52
  my
• 13:52
  parents,
• 13:53
  my
• 13:53
  guardians.
• 13:55
  So,
• 13:55
  Kathy,
• 13:55
  as
• 13:56
  you
• 13:56
  say,
• 13:56
  that
• 13:57
  I'm
• 13:58
  a
• 13:58
  visual
• 13:58
  learner.
• 13:59
  So
• 13:59
  I
• 13:59
  look
• 13:59
  at
• 14:00
  the
• 14:01
  hope
• 14:01
  meter,
• 14:02
  and
• 14:03
  the
• 14:03
  potential
• 14:04
  on
• 14:04
  the
• 14:04
  hope
• 14:04
  meter
• 14:06
  is
• 14:06
  moving
• 14:07
  from
• 14:08
  optimized
• 14:09
  hope
• 14:10
  to
• 14:10
  hopelessness.
• 14:11
  And
• 14:12
  we
• 14:12
  wonder,
• 14:12
  right,
• 14:13
  as
• 14:13
  we
• 14:13
  talk
• 14:13
  about
• 14:13
  all
• 14:14
  of
• 14:14
  the
• 14:14
  things
• 14:14
  that,
• 14:15
  you
• 14:15
  know,
• 14:15
  negative.
• 14:16
  The
• 14:17
  negative
• 14:17
  outcomes
• 14:18
  of
• 14:18
  what
• 14:18
  we're
• 14:18
  doing,
• 14:19
  chronic
• 14:19
  absenteeism.
• 14:20
  And,
• 14:20
  you
• 14:20
  know,
• 14:20
  you
• 14:20
  go
• 14:21
  on
• 14:21
  and
• 14:21
  on
• 14:21
  and
• 14:21
  on.
• 14:23
  Is
• 14:23
  it
• 14:23
  the
• 14:23
  lack
• 14:24
  of.
• 14:24
  Part
• 14:25
  of
• 14:25
  it,
• 14:25
  of
• 14:25
  course,
• 14:25
  is
• 14:25
  the
• 14:26
  lack
• 14:26
  of
• 14:26
  belonging
• 14:26
  and
• 14:26
  the
• 14:27
  lack
• 14:27
  of
• 14:27
  being
• 14:27
  valued
• 14:28
  and
• 14:28
  mattering.
• 14:29
  But
• 14:30
  part
• 14:30
  of
• 14:30
  it
• 14:30
  is,
• 14:31
  in
• 14:31
  many
• 14:31
  cases,
• 14:33
  children
• 14:34
  are
• 14:34
  bored
• 14:34
  out
• 14:35
  of
• 14:35
  their
• 14:36
  minds.
• 14:37
  They
• 14:38
  are
• 14:38
  not
• 14:38
  experiencing
• 14:40
  joy.
• 14:42
  They're
• 14:42
  experiencing
• 14:43
  whatever
• 14:43
  the
• 14:43
  antithesis
• 14:44
  is
• 14:44
  of
• 14:44
  that,
• 14:45
  right?
• 14:45
  And
• 14:45
  I
• 14:45
  can
• 14:46
  think
• 14:46
  of
• 14:46
  some
• 14:46
  pretty
• 14:46
  ugly
• 14:47
  words
• 14:48
  that
• 14:48
  describe
• 14:49
  the
• 14:49
  antithesis.
• 14:50
  But,
• 14:50
  you
• 14:50
  know,
• 14:50
  if
• 14:51
  this
• 14:51
  was
• 14:51
  a
• 14:51
  place,
• 14:52
  this
• 14:52
  was
• 14:53
  a
• 14:53
  place
• 14:53
  where
• 14:53
  your
• 14:53
  humanity
• 14:54
  was.
• 14:55
  Was
• 14:55
  valued,
• 14:56
  where
• 14:56
  you
• 14:56
  were.
• 14:57
  It
• 14:57
  was
• 14:57
  where
• 14:59
  you
• 14:59
  were
• 15:00
  celebrated
• 15:00
  every
• 15:00
  day
• 15:01
  just
• 15:01
  because
• 15:02
  of
• 15:02
  who
• 15:02
  you
• 15:02
  are
• 15:02
  as
• 15:02
  a
• 15:03
  human
• 15:04
  and
• 15:04
  where
• 15:04
  you
• 15:04
  were
• 15:06
  experiencing
• 15:07
  joy,
• 15:08
  a
• 15:08
  joy
• 15:08
  filled
• 15:09
  learning.
• 15:10
  That's
• 15:10
  a
• 15:10
  place
• 15:10
  you
• 15:10
  wouldn't
• 15:11
  want
• 15:11
  to
• 15:11
  not
• 15:11
  be
• 15:11
  in.
• 15:12
  I'm
• 15:13
  so
• 15:13
  glad
• 15:13
  you're
• 15:13
  going
• 15:14
  here.
• 15:14
  I'm
• 15:14
  reflecting
• 15:15
  on
• 15:15
  the
• 15:15
  episode
• 15:17
  where
• 15:17
  Mel
• 15:17
  King
• 15:18
  described
• 15:19
  his
• 15:19
  experience
• 15:20
  in
• 15:20
  Michael's
• 15:21
  classroom.
• 15:22
  And
• 15:22
  Michael,
• 15:22
  correct
• 15:23
  me
• 15:23
  if
• 15:23
  I'm
• 15:23
  wrong,
• 15:24
  because
• 15:24
  I'm
• 15:25
  going
• 15:25
  to
• 15:25
  pour
• 15:25
  joy
• 15:26
  into
• 15:26
  your
• 15:26
  cup
• 15:27
  this
• 15:27
  morning.
• 15:30
  It's
• 15:30
  about
• 15:32
  him
• 15:34
  as
• 15:34
  he's
• 15:34
  moving
• 15:35
  through
• 15:36
  and
• 15:36
  navigating
• 15:37
  these
• 15:37
  intersections
• 15:39
  of
• 15:39
  identity,
• 15:41
  knowing
• 15:42
  that
• 15:42
  that
• 15:43
  love
• 15:44
  that
• 15:44
  fills
• 15:45
  that
• 15:45
  belief
• 15:46
  gap
• 15:47
  is
• 15:47
  exuded
• 15:48
  by
• 15:48
  my
• 15:48
  teacher,
• 15:49
  Michael
• 15:49
  Piper.
• 15:50
  And
• 15:50
  then
• 15:50
  he
• 15:51
  begins
• 15:51
  to
• 15:51
  blossom
• 15:53
  as
• 15:53
  Micah
• 15:53
  continues
• 15:54
  to
• 15:54
  water.
• 15:56
  Now,
• 15:56
  Micah
• 15:56
  could
• 15:57
  have
• 15:57
  taken
• 15:57
  a
• 15:57
  charge
• 15:58
  from
• 15:58
  his
• 15:58
  principal,
• 15:59
  or
• 15:59
  he
• 15:59
  could
• 15:59
  have
• 16:00
  said,
• 16:00
  I'm
• 16:01
  closing
• 16:01
  that
• 16:01
  door.
• 16:02
  Am
• 16:02
  I
• 16:02
  correct,
• 16:03
  Michael?
• 16:05
  But
• 16:06
  when
• 16:06
  Mel
• 16:07
  said
• 16:07
  that
• 16:09
  you
• 16:09
  could
• 16:09
  see
• 16:09
  him
• 16:10
  vividly
• 16:11
  walk
• 16:11
  through
• 16:11
  and
• 16:12
  recollect
• 16:13
  that
• 16:13
  experience
• 16:14
  as
• 16:14
  pivotal
• 16:16
  in
• 16:16
  his
• 16:17
  life,
• 16:17
  to
• 16:18
  really
• 16:19
  propel
• 16:20
  his
• 16:20
  life
• 16:20
  trajectory.
• 16:22
  We
• 16:22
  want
• 16:23
  our
• 16:23
  students,
• 16:25
  years
• 16:25
  later,
• 16:27
  to
• 16:27
  be
• 16:27
  able
• 16:27
  to
• 16:28
  tell
• 16:28
  those
• 16:28
  stories
• 16:30
  and
• 16:30
  to
• 16:30
  recollect
• 16:31
  that
• 16:32
  type
• 16:32
  of
• 16:32
  narrative.
• 16:34
  And
• 16:35
  that
• 16:35
  narrative
• 16:36
  beginning
• 16:37
  as
• 16:37
  soon
• 16:37
  as
• 16:37
  they
• 16:38
  walk
• 16:38
  through
• 16:38
  the
• 16:38
  doors,
• 16:40
  not
• 16:42
  until
• 16:43
  they
• 16:43
  get
• 16:43
  to
• 16:43
  high
• 16:44
  school.
• 16:45
  Thankfully,
• 16:46
  Mel
• 16:48
  experienced
• 16:48
  that
• 16:49
  with
• 16:49
  Michael.
• 16:50
  Thankfully,
• 16:51
  he
• 16:52
  found
• 16:54
  an
• 16:54
  adult,
• 16:55
  a
• 16:56
  teacher,
• 16:57
  a
• 16:57
  trusted
• 16:59
  person.
• 17:00
  And
• 17:01
  maybe
• 17:01
  he
• 17:02
  felt
• 17:02
  others,
• 17:03
  maybe
• 17:04
  that,
• 17:04
  you
• 17:04
  know,
• 17:05
  it
• 17:05
  was
• 17:05
  just
• 17:05
  the
• 17:06
  one
• 17:06
  in
• 17:06
  particular
• 17:07
  that
• 17:07
  really
• 17:09
  shined
• 17:10
  this
• 17:10
  experience
• 17:11
  for
• 17:11
  him.
• 17:13
  Every
• 17:13
  student,
• 17:14
  each
• 17:14
  student
• 17:14
  deserves
• 17:15
  that
• 17:15
  from
• 17:16
  the
• 17:16
  moment
• 17:16
  they
• 17:16
  walk
• 17:17
  through
• 17:17
  the
• 17:17
  doors
• 17:19
  to
• 17:19
  where
• 17:21
  it's
• 17:22
  not
• 17:23
  something
• 17:24
  that
• 17:24
  is
• 17:25
  uncommon,
• 17:27
  but
• 17:27
  it
• 17:27
  is
• 17:28
  the
• 17:28
  norm.
• 17:30
  And
• 17:30
  then
• 17:31
  starting
• 17:31
  with
• 17:33
  the
• 17:33
  adults
• 17:33
  yet
• 17:34
  again.
• 17:34
  And
• 17:35
  what
• 17:35
  does
• 17:35
  that
• 17:35
  support?
• 17:36
  So
• 17:36
  when
• 17:36
  we
• 17:36
  talk
• 17:37
  about
• 17:37
  that
• 17:37
  classroom,
• 17:38
  we
• 17:38
  talk
• 17:38
  about
• 17:38
  this
• 17:39
  often
• 17:40
  with
• 17:41
  understanding
• 17:41
  those
• 17:42
  layers
• 17:42
  that
• 17:43
  are
• 17:43
  needed
• 17:44
  for
• 17:45
  the
• 17:45
  support
• 17:46
  for
• 17:47
  that
• 17:47
  sense
• 17:48
  of
• 17:48
  belonging
• 17:49
  that
• 17:49
  I
• 17:50
  matter
• 17:51
  that
• 17:51
  that
• 17:52
  joy
• 17:52
  is
• 17:53
  exuding
• 17:54
  from
• 17:55
  each
• 17:55
  and
• 17:55
  every
• 17:56
  adult
• 17:57
  at
• 17:57
  all
• 17:58
  layers
• 17:59
  of
• 17:59
  the
• 17:59
  organization.
• 18:00
  Because
• 18:00
  then
• 18:01
  what?
• 18:01
  Even
• 18:01
  when
• 18:03
  I
• 18:04
  think,
• 18:04
  Alicia,
• 18:04
  you
• 18:04
  said
• 18:05
  it.
• 18:05
  Even
• 18:05
  when
• 18:05
  it's
• 18:06
  chaotic,
• 18:07
  even
• 18:07
  even
• 18:07
  when
• 18:07
  it's
• 18:08
  hard,
• 18:08
  even
• 18:09
  when
• 18:09
  these
• 18:09
  circumstances
• 18:10
  are
• 18:10
  coming
• 18:11
  at
• 18:11
  us,
• 18:12
  we're
• 18:13
  able
• 18:13
  to
• 18:14
  work
• 18:14
  through
• 18:14
  it
• 18:15
  and
• 18:15
  handle
• 18:16
  that
• 18:16
  because
• 18:17
  there
• 18:17
  is
• 18:18
  that
• 18:19
  core
• 18:21
  sense
• 18:21
  of
• 18:22
  joy
• 18:23
  and
• 18:23
  purpose.
• 18:25
  A
• 18:26
  part
• 18:26
  of
• 18:26
  me
• 18:26
  is
• 18:27
  resisting
• 18:29
  the
• 18:29
  idea
• 18:30
  of
• 18:30
  joy
• 18:31
  as
• 18:31
  one
• 18:31
  more
• 18:31
  metric
• 18:33
  that
• 18:33
  teachers
• 18:34
  need
• 18:34
  to
• 18:34
  be
• 18:35
  measuring
• 18:35
  and
• 18:36
  tending.
• 18:38
  And
• 18:38
  I
• 18:38
  want
• 18:39
  to
• 18:40
  preserve
• 18:40
  it
• 18:41
  as
• 18:41
  a
• 18:41
  practice
• 18:42
  because
• 18:44
  personally,
• 18:45
  in
• 18:45
  my
• 18:45
  journey
• 18:46
  as
• 18:46
  an
• 18:46
  educator,
• 18:48
  my
• 18:48
  career
• 18:48
  was
• 18:51
  begun
• 18:52
  in
• 18:53
  a
• 18:53
  field
• 18:54
  of
• 18:54
  learning,
• 18:55
  joy
• 18:56
  that
• 18:56
  was
• 18:58
  innovative
• 18:58
  and
• 18:59
  unbridled,
• 19:02
  unmeasured
• 19:03
  in
• 19:03
  so
• 19:04
  many
• 19:04
  ways
• 19:05
  and
• 19:06
  infinite.
• 19:08
  And
• 19:08
  I
• 19:09
  watched
• 19:09
  and
• 19:10
  felt
• 19:11
  and
• 19:12
  experienced
• 19:12
  the
• 19:13
  impact
• 19:13
  of
• 19:13
  standardization
• 19:15
  over
• 19:16
  the
• 19:16
  first
• 19:16
  decade
• 19:17
  of
• 19:17
  my
• 19:18
  work
• 19:18
  as
• 19:18
  a
• 19:18
  teacher
• 19:19
  and
• 19:20
  the
• 19:20
  narrowing
• 19:21
  of
• 19:21
  what
• 19:21
  counts,
• 19:23
  what
• 19:24
  gets
• 19:24
  measured
• 19:25
  and
• 19:25
  what's
• 19:25
  important,
• 19:27
  and
• 19:27
  the
• 19:28
  driving
• 19:29
  from
• 19:29
  our
• 19:29
  midst
• 19:30
  of
• 19:30
  all
• 19:30
  of
• 19:31
  the
• 19:31
  things
• 19:32
  that
• 19:32
  gave
• 19:33
  us
• 19:33
  joy
• 19:34
  as
• 19:35
  learning
• 19:35
  people,
• 19:36
  regardless
• 19:37
  of
• 19:37
  age.
• 19:38
  And
• 19:40
  it's
• 19:40
  when
• 19:40
  we
• 19:41
  get
• 19:41
  pushed
• 19:42
  to
• 19:42
  the
• 19:42
  absolute
• 19:43
  brink
• 19:43
  of
• 19:44
  meaninglessness
• 19:45
  and
• 19:46
  purposelessness
• 19:47
  that
• 19:49
  we
• 19:50
  dig
• 19:50
  in
• 19:51
  and
• 19:51
  we,
• 19:52
  we
• 19:52
  remember
• 19:52
  and
• 19:53
  we
• 19:53
  trust
• 19:54
  our
• 19:54
  understanding
• 19:55
  and
• 19:55
  our
• 19:56
  orientation
• 19:56
  and
• 19:56
  our
• 19:57
  instincts
• 19:57
  as
• 19:57
  learning
• 19:58
  people
• 19:59
  that
• 20:01
  without
• 20:01
  seeing
• 20:02
  those
• 20:02
  learners
• 20:03
  we're
• 20:03
  working
• 20:03
  with,
• 20:04
  without
• 20:05
  prioritizing
• 20:07
  the
• 20:07
  importance
• 20:08
  of
• 20:08
  their
• 20:08
  story
• 20:09
  and
• 20:10
  hope,
• 20:12
  there
• 20:12
  is
• 20:12
  no
• 20:13
  possibility
• 20:14
  for
• 20:14
  joy.
• 20:14
  And
• 20:15
  without
• 20:15
  joy,
• 20:15
  there's
• 20:16
  no
• 20:16
  sense.
• 20:18
  And
• 20:18
  so
• 20:18
  that's
• 20:18
  how
• 20:18
  I
• 20:19
  see
• 20:20
  the
• 20:20
  conversation
• 20:21
  about
• 20:21
  joy
• 20:22
  is
• 20:22
  a
• 20:22
  way
• 20:23
  to
• 20:23
  remind
• 20:23
  us
• 20:23
  that
• 20:24
  of
• 20:24
  course,
• 20:25
  when
• 20:26
  our
• 20:26
  third
• 20:26
  graders
• 20:27
  are
• 20:27
  exhausted
• 20:28
  and
• 20:28
  they've
• 20:28
  had
• 20:28
  just
• 20:29
  about
• 20:29
  enough
• 20:29
  of
• 20:29
  math
• 20:30
  today,
• 20:30
  let's
• 20:31
  pivot
• 20:31
  and
• 20:32
  let's
• 20:33
  sing
• 20:33
  together
• 20:33
  and
• 20:33
  let's
• 20:34
  get
• 20:34
  up
• 20:34
  and
• 20:34
  let's
• 20:34
  dance
• 20:36
  for
• 20:36
  no
• 20:36
  other
• 20:37
  reason
• 20:37
  than
• 20:38
  let's
• 20:38
  please
• 20:38
  do
• 20:39
  this.
• 20:40
  And
• 20:40
  there's
• 20:41
  that
• 20:41
  vibe
• 20:41
  and
• 20:41
  that
• 20:42
  feeling
• 20:42
  in
• 20:42
  that
• 20:43
  moment,
• 20:43
  and
• 20:43
  skillful
• 20:44
  teachers
• 20:44
  seize
• 20:45
  on
• 20:45
  it,
• 20:46
  and
• 20:46
  then
• 20:46
  they
• 20:46
  incorporate
• 20:47
  all
• 20:47
  of
• 20:47
  that
• 20:48
  into
• 20:48
  the
• 20:48
  next
• 20:48
  phase
• 20:49
  of
• 20:49
  learning.
• 20:50
  It's
• 20:50
  what
• 20:50
  we
• 20:51
  do
• 20:52
  as
• 20:53
  human
• 20:53
  beings.
• 20:54
  And
• 20:56
  I
• 20:56
  think
• 20:56
  it's
• 20:56
  absolutely
• 20:57
  the
• 20:57
  heart
• 20:58
  of
• 21:00
  why
• 21:00
  we
• 21:01
  continue
• 21:01
  to
• 21:01
  learn
• 21:02
  our
• 21:02
  whole
• 21:02
  lives.
• 21:04
  So,
• 21:05
  of
• 21:05
  course,
• 21:06
  remember
• 21:06
  that
• 21:06
  Michael
• 21:06
  is
• 21:07
  the
• 21:07
  oldest
• 21:07
  in
• 21:07
  the
• 21:07
  room
• 21:08
  and
• 21:08
  I
• 21:08
  am
• 21:09
  not.
• 21:10
  He
• 21:11
  just
• 21:11
  about
• 21:11
  shoved
• 21:11
  down
• 21:12
  his
• 21:12
  drink.
• 21:12
  Like,
• 21:13
  wait,
• 21:13
  wait
• 21:14
  a
• 21:14
  minute.
• 21:15
  But
• 21:17
  those
• 21:17
  of
• 21:18
  us,
• 21:19
  Sorry,
• 21:19
  Michael.
• 21:21
  Those
• 21:21
  of
• 21:21
  us
• 21:21
  sitting
• 21:22
  here
• 21:22
  in
• 21:22
  the
• 21:22
  wheelhouse
• 21:23
  have
• 21:23
  a
• 21:23
  few
• 21:24
  years
• 21:24
  of
• 21:24
  experience.
• 21:26
  And
• 21:26
  so,
• 21:26
  and
• 21:27
  I
• 21:27
  say
• 21:27
  that
• 21:27
  in
• 21:27
  a
• 21:28
  positive
• 21:28
  because
• 21:29
  we
• 21:29
  can
• 21:29
  remember,
• 21:31
  we
• 21:31
  can
• 21:32
  remember
• 21:32
  what
• 21:32
  education
• 21:34
  looked
• 21:34
  like
• 21:35
  before
• 21:37
  standardization.
• 21:39
  If
• 21:39
  you
• 21:39
  talk
• 21:40
  to
• 21:40
  people
• 21:40
  who
• 21:41
  have
• 21:41
  20
• 21:42
  years
• 21:42
  of
• 21:42
  experience
• 21:43
  or
• 21:43
  less,
• 21:44
  all
• 21:45
  they
• 21:45
  know
• 21:46
  is
• 21:46
  the
• 21:47
  standardization
• 21:48
  and
• 21:48
  the
• 21:49
  race,
• 21:50
  the
• 21:50
  race
• 21:50
  to
• 21:50
  the
• 21:50
  top,
• 21:52
  whatever
• 21:52
  one
• 21:52
  you
• 21:53
  want
• 21:53
  to
• 21:53
  use.
• 21:53
  Right.
• 21:54
  To
• 21:54
  standardization
• 21:55
  and
• 21:56
  achievement.
• 22:00
  They
• 22:00
  have
• 22:00
  no
• 22:01
  interaction
• 22:03
  with
• 22:04
  this
• 22:04
  concept
• 22:05
  of
• 22:05
  thinking
• 22:05
  beyond
• 22:07
  reading
• 22:08
  proficiency,
• 22:08
  math
• 22:09
  proficiency,
• 22:09
  and
• 22:09
  writing
• 22:10
  proficiency.
• 22:10
  Right.
• 22:11
  And
• 22:12
  so
• 22:13
  many
• 22:13
  districts
• 22:15
  are
• 22:15
  pushing
• 22:16
  that.
• 22:17
  And
• 22:17
  of
• 22:18
  course,
• 22:18
  you
• 22:18
  know,
• 22:18
  let
• 22:19
  us
• 22:19
  not
• 22:19
  be
• 22:19
  confused.
• 22:20
  We
• 22:20
  all
• 22:21
  believe
• 22:21
  that
• 22:21
  children
• 22:22
  should
• 22:22
  read
• 22:22
  and
• 22:22
  write
• 22:23
  and
• 22:23
  be
• 22:23
  able
• 22:24
  to
• 22:24
  do
• 22:24
  math.
• 22:25
  We
• 22:25
  are
• 22:25
  not
• 22:25
  saying
• 22:26
  that
• 22:26
  they
• 22:26
  shouldn't
• 22:26
  be
• 22:27
  able
• 22:27
  to
• 22:27
  do
• 22:27
  that.
• 22:28
  Right.
• 22:28
  But
• 22:28
  that
• 22:28
  the
• 22:29
  driving
• 22:30
  force,
• 22:31
  the
• 22:32
  way
• 22:32
  you
• 22:32
  get
• 22:33
  there,
• 22:34
  is
• 22:35
  not
• 22:35
  standardization.
• 22:37
  It's
• 22:37
  joy
• 22:38
  that
• 22:38
  there
• 22:38
  is
• 22:38
  an
• 22:39
  intersection
• 22:40
  of
• 22:40
  rigor
• 22:41
  and
• 22:41
  challenge
• 22:43
  when
• 22:43
  students
• 22:44
  experience
• 22:46
  joy.
• 22:47
  Joy
• 22:47
  filled
• 22:48
  learning,
• 22:49
  joy
• 22:49
  filled
• 22:49
  social
• 22:50
  interaction,
• 22:51
  joy
• 22:51
  filled
• 22:52
  humanity
• 22:53
  in
• 22:53
  our
• 22:53
  classrooms.
• 22:55
  Right.
• 22:56
  So
• 22:57
  I
• 22:57
  want
• 22:58
  to
• 22:58
  back
• 22:58
  into
• 22:59
  this
• 22:59
  a
• 22:59
  little
• 22:59
  bit.
• 22:59
  So
• 23:00
  if,
• 23:00
  if
• 23:01
  we
• 23:01
  want
• 23:02
  that
• 23:02
  for
• 23:02
  our
• 23:03
  students,
• 23:04
  then
• 23:04
  educators
• 23:05
  themselves
• 23:06
  have
• 23:06
  to
• 23:06
  be
• 23:06
  joy
• 23:07
  filled.
• 23:08
  And
• 23:08
  what
• 23:08
  is
• 23:08
  alarming
• 23:10
  is
• 23:10
  that
• 23:10
  we
• 23:11
  don't
• 23:11
  see
• 23:12
  joy
• 23:12
  filled
• 23:12
  teachers
• 23:13
  and
• 23:13
  educators
• 23:14
  and
• 23:14
  even
• 23:15
  educated
• 23:16
  educational
• 23:16
  leaders
• 23:18
  in
• 23:18
  the
• 23:18
  education
• 23:19
  space.
• 23:20
  This
• 23:20
  is
• 23:21
  concerning
• 23:22
  because
• 23:23
  I'm
• 23:23
  going
• 23:24
  to
• 23:24
  dovetail
• 23:25
  off
• 23:25
  of
• 23:26
  the
• 23:26
  question
• 23:26
  that
• 23:27
  you
• 23:27
  just
• 23:27
  posed,
• 23:28
  Grant.
• 23:30
  What
• 23:30
  does
• 23:30
  joy
• 23:31
  look,
• 23:31
  sound
• 23:31
  and
• 23:32
  feel
• 23:32
  like,
• 23:34
  what
• 23:34
  is
• 23:34
  this
• 23:35
  joy
• 23:35
  thing?
• 23:35
  And
• 23:37
  maybe,
• 23:37
  Michael,
• 23:38
  because
• 23:39
  there
• 23:39
  is
• 23:39
  such
• 23:39
  a
• 23:40
  lack
• 23:40
  of
• 23:40
  that
• 23:41
  in
• 23:41
  the
• 23:41
  space.
• 23:43
  And
• 23:43
  I
• 23:43
  have
• 23:43
  literally
• 23:44
  been
• 23:44
  in
• 23:45
  spaces
• 23:45
  where
• 23:46
  educators
• 23:48
  can't
• 23:48
  see
• 23:49
  it.
• 23:49
  They
• 23:50
  don't
• 23:50
  even
• 23:50
  know
• 23:50
  what
• 23:50
  it
• 23:50
  sounds
• 23:51
  like.
• 23:51
  They
• 23:51
  don't
• 23:51
  even
• 23:52
  know
• 23:52
  what
• 23:52
  it
• 23:52
  looks
• 23:52
  like.
• 23:53
  And
• 23:53
  they
• 23:53
  really
• 23:54
  think
• 23:54
  that
• 23:54
  they
• 23:54
  are
• 23:55
  reflective
• 23:55
  of
• 23:55
  it.
• 23:56
  There's
• 23:57
  a
• 23:57
  dichotomy.
• 23:58
  You
• 23:58
  know,
• 23:58
  I
• 23:58
  can't
• 23:59
  wait
• 23:59
  to
• 23:59
  start
• 24:00
  to
• 24:00
  really
• 24:00
  unpack
• 24:01
  what's
• 24:01
  in
• 24:02
  the
• 24:02
  belief
• 24:02
  gap.
• 24:03
  We
• 24:03
  talked
• 24:04
  about
• 24:04
  empathy.
• 24:06
  I
• 24:06
  uplifted
• 24:07
  love.
• 24:08
  We
• 24:08
  talked
• 24:08
  about
• 24:09
  hope.
• 24:10
  But
• 24:10
  to
• 24:11
  visualize
• 24:11
  it
• 24:12
  and
• 24:12
  feel
• 24:12
  that
• 24:12
  and
• 24:13
  hear
• 24:13
  that,
• 24:14
  I
• 24:14
  think
• 24:14
  that's
• 24:15
  foreign
• 24:16
  for
• 24:16
  many
• 24:16
  educators
• 24:17
  that
• 24:17
  are
• 24:18
  in
• 24:18
  the
• 24:18
  space
• 24:18
  right
• 24:18
  now.
• 24:20
  Many
• 24:20
  come
• 24:20
  in
• 24:21
  with
• 24:21
  that
• 24:22
  and
• 24:22
  that.
• 24:22
  It'S
• 24:23
  broken
• 24:24
  because
• 24:24
  they
• 24:25
  come
• 24:25
  face
• 24:25
  to
• 24:26
  face
• 24:26
  with
• 24:26
  the
• 24:26
  crushing
• 24:27
  push
• 24:28
  of
• 24:28
  standardized
• 24:30
  achievement.
• 24:31
  Correct.
• 24:32
  Grant,
• 24:33
  you
• 24:33
  use
• 24:33
  a
• 24:33
  term
• 24:34
  in
• 24:34
  your
• 24:34
  book
• 24:34
  and
• 24:34
  I
• 24:35
  always
• 24:35
  quote
• 24:36
  you,
• 24:36
  transactional
• 24:37
  hurting.
• 24:38
  That
• 24:38
  is
• 24:39
  so
• 24:39
  powerful.
• 24:40
  Transactional
• 24:41
  hurting
• 24:42
  versus
• 24:43
  dignity.
• 24:44
  Two
• 24:45
  different
• 24:45
  ends.
• 24:47
  Dignity
• 24:47
  is
• 24:48
  transformative.
• 24:49
  It's
• 24:50
  innovative,
• 24:50
  it's
• 24:51
  creative.
• 24:52
  And
• 24:52
  we
• 24:52
  shouldn't
• 24:53
  necessarily
• 24:54
  have
• 24:54
  to
• 24:55
  affiliate
• 24:56
  and
• 24:56
  connect
• 24:57
  that
• 24:57
  with
• 24:58
  future
• 24:58
  ready
• 24:59
  schools.
• 25:00
  It
• 25:00
  should
• 25:01
  be
• 25:02
  the
• 25:02
  schools
• 25:02
  of
• 25:02
  today
• 25:03
  and
• 25:03
  now.
• 25:05
  But
• 25:05
  it's
• 25:05
  going
• 25:06
  to
• 25:06
  take
• 25:06
  a
• 25:06
  change
• 25:07
  movement
• 25:08
  that
• 25:08
  is
• 25:09
  intentional
• 25:10
  to
• 25:10
  really
• 25:10
  take
• 25:11
  us
• 25:11
  to
• 25:11
  the
• 25:11
  place
• 25:11
  where
• 25:11
  we
• 25:12
  should
• 25:12
  have
• 25:12
  always
• 25:12
  been.
• 25:14
  So
• 25:14
  future
• 25:14
  ready
• 25:15
  schools,
• 25:15
  innovation
• 25:17
  rooted
• 25:17
  in
• 25:17
  humanity.
• 25:19
  There's
• 25:19
  an
• 25:20
  element
• 25:20
  of
• 25:21
  joy
• 25:22
  in
• 25:22
  that
• 25:23
  work
• 25:24
  and
• 25:24
  that
• 25:25
  is
• 25:26
  the
• 25:26
  antidote
• 25:27
  to
• 25:27
  cynicism.
• 25:29
  So
• 25:29
  I
• 25:29
  am
• 25:30
  working
• 25:30
  with
• 25:30
  this
• 25:30
  amazing
• 25:31
  principal
• 25:32
  and
• 25:33
  his
• 25:33
  superintendent
• 25:34
  has
• 25:34
  really,
• 25:35
  really
• 25:35
  good
• 25:35
  intentions.
• 25:36
  But
• 25:37
  his
• 25:37
  superintendent
• 25:38
  is
• 25:39
  completely
• 25:40
  focused
• 25:41
  and
• 25:42
  I
• 25:43
  applaud
• 25:43
  his
• 25:43
  commitment.
• 25:44
  He's
• 25:44
  completely
• 25:45
  focused
• 25:46
  on
• 25:47
  reading
• 25:47
  and
• 25:48
  math
• 25:48
  proficiency
• 25:49
  because
• 25:49
  he
• 25:49
  knows
• 25:50
  what
• 25:50
  will
• 25:50
  happen
• 25:51
  to
• 25:51
  his
• 25:51
  students
• 25:53
  if
• 25:53
  they're
• 25:53
  not,
• 25:54
  if
• 25:54
  they,
• 25:54
  if
• 25:54
  they
• 25:55
  don't
• 25:55
  get
• 25:55
  there.
• 25:55
  Right.
• 25:56
  He's,
• 25:57
  he,
• 25:57
  you
• 25:57
  know,
• 25:58
  this
• 25:58
  is
• 25:58
  a
• 25:58
  heart
• 25:59
  filled
• 25:59
  superintendent.
• 26:00
  I'm
• 26:00
  not
• 26:00
  criticizing
• 26:01
  this
• 26:01
  superintendent
• 26:02
  at
• 26:02
  all.
• 26:03
  But
• 26:03
  his
• 26:04
  only
• 26:05
  focus
• 26:06
  is
• 26:07
  on
• 26:07
  reading
• 26:07
  and
• 26:07
  math
• 26:08
  proficiency.
• 26:09
  He'll
• 26:10
  never
• 26:10
  get
• 26:10
  there
• 26:12
  if
• 26:12
  he
• 26:12
  doesn't
• 26:13
  help
• 26:13
  his
• 26:14
  principals
• 26:15
  and
• 26:16
  help
• 26:16
  his
• 26:16
  teachers
• 26:18
  and
• 26:18
  his
• 26:18
  students
• 26:20
  experience
• 26:22
  joy.
• 26:23
  Because
• 26:23
  I'm
• 26:23
  going
• 26:24
  to
• 26:24
  argue
• 26:24
  today
• 26:26
  that
• 26:26
  that's
• 26:26
  why
• 26:27
  our
• 26:27
  reading
• 26:27
  scores
• 26:28
  and
• 26:28
  our
• 26:28
  math
• 26:29
  scores
• 26:29
  are
• 26:30
  going
• 26:30
  down,
• 26:31
  my
• 26:31
  friends,
• 26:32
  not
• 26:32
  up.
• 26:34
  Because
• 26:34
  our
• 26:34
  kids,
• 26:36
  our
• 26:36
  teachers,
• 26:37
  our
• 26:37
  leaders
• 26:38
  are
• 26:39
  experiencing
• 26:40
  less
• 26:40
  joy
• 26:41
  every
• 26:42
  day.
• 26:43
  And
• 26:43
  why
• 26:43
  chronic
• 26:44
  absenteeism
• 26:46
  is
• 26:46
  going
• 26:46
  up,
• 26:47
  up,
• 26:47
  up,
• 26:47
  up,
• 26:47
  up.
• 26:48
  Why?
• 26:48
  That
• 26:48
  is
• 26:50
  a
• 26:50
  nationwide
• 26:52
  issue.
• 26:54
  Absolutely.
• 26:56
  And
• 26:56
  Kathy,
• 26:56
  it's
• 26:57
  not
• 26:57
  only
• 26:57
  for
• 26:57
  the
• 26:57
  students.
• 26:58
  Oh,
• 26:58
  no.
• 26:59
  It's
• 26:59
  for
• 26:59
  the
• 26:59
  teachers.
• 27:00
  There
• 27:00
  is.
• 27:02
  Educators
• 27:02
  are
• 27:02
  just
• 27:02
  not
• 27:03
  showing
• 27:03
  up
• 27:03
  in
• 27:03
  a
• 27:03
  space.
• 27:04
  Correct.
• 27:05
  And
• 27:06
  if
• 27:06
  they're
• 27:06
  not
• 27:06
  calling
• 27:06
  in
• 27:06
  sick,
• 27:07
  they're
• 27:07
  quitting.
• 27:08
  Right.
• 27:08
  Going
• 27:08
  somewhere
• 27:09
  else,
• 27:09
  walking
• 27:10
  away
• 27:10
  from
• 27:10
  the
• 27:10
  profession.
• 27:12
  Because
• 27:13
  the
• 27:13
  ongoing
• 27:14
  quest
• 27:15
  to
• 27:15
  standardized
• 27:16
  achievement.
• 27:18
  Alone.
• 27:19
  Alone,
• 27:19
  Right.
• 27:20
  Is
• 27:21
  never
• 27:21
  gonna
• 27:21
  get
• 27:21
  us
• 27:21
  there.
• 27:23
  How
• 27:23
  do
• 27:23
  you
• 27:23
  know
• 27:23
  when
• 27:23
  you're
• 27:23
  seeing
• 27:24
  joy?
• 27:25
  I
• 27:25
  mean,
• 27:25
  if
• 27:25
  I'm
• 27:25
  sitting
• 27:26
  here
• 27:26
  as
• 27:26
  a
• 27:26
  superintendent
• 27:26
  or
• 27:27
  a
• 27:27
  principal
• 27:27
  or
• 27:27
  a
• 27:27
  teacher
• 27:28
  listening
• 27:28
  to
• 27:28
  this
• 27:28
  conversation,
• 27:29
  I'll
• 27:29
  be,
• 27:29
  okay.
• 27:30
  That's
• 27:30
  great.
• 27:31
  What's
• 27:31
  it
• 27:31
  look
• 27:31
  like?
• 27:32
  How
• 27:32
  do
• 27:32
  I
• 27:32
  know?
• 27:33
  How
• 27:33
  do
• 27:33
  I
• 27:33
  know
• 27:34
  if
• 27:35
  I
• 27:35
  walk
• 27:36
  into
• 27:36
  a
• 27:36
  classroom
• 27:37
  and
• 27:38
  somebody,
• 27:38
  hopefully
• 27:39
  everybody,
• 27:39
  right,
• 27:40
  but
• 27:40
  somebody
• 27:41
  is
• 27:41
  experiencing
• 27:43
  joy?
• 27:44
  How
• 27:44
  would
• 27:44
  we
• 27:44
  know?
• 27:45
  You
• 27:45
  feel
• 27:45
  it
• 27:46
  first
• 27:47
  and
• 27:47
  foremost.
• 27:48
  I
• 27:48
  mean,
• 27:48
  that
• 27:49
  sense
• 27:49
  of
• 27:50
  belonging
• 27:51
  in
• 27:51
  students
• 27:53
  engaged
• 27:54
  in
• 27:54
  interactions
• 27:56
  with
• 27:57
  the
• 27:57
  teacher,
• 27:58
  with
• 27:58
  their
• 27:59
  peers,
• 28:00
  their
• 28:01
  level
• 28:02
  of
• 28:04
  curiosity
• 28:06
  and
• 28:06
  support,
• 28:08
  and
• 28:08
  that
• 28:09
  feeling
• 28:10
  of.
• 28:10
  I
• 28:10
  mean,
• 28:11
  you
• 28:12
  walk
• 28:12
  into
• 28:12
  a
• 28:13
  space
• 28:13
  that
• 28:14
  exudes
• 28:15
  joy
• 28:15
  versus
• 28:16
  walking
• 28:17
  into
• 28:17
  a
• 28:17
  space
• 28:18
  that
• 28:18
  exudes
• 28:19
  cynicism.
• 28:21
  You
• 28:21
  feel
• 28:22
  that.
• 28:22
  You
• 28:23
  either
• 28:23
  feel
• 28:23
  the
• 28:23
  lightness
• 28:24
  or
• 28:25
  you
• 28:25
  feel
• 28:25
  the
• 28:25
  heaviness.
• 28:28
  You
• 28:28
  either
• 28:29
  see
• 28:29
  that
• 28:31
  the
• 28:31
  humans
• 28:32
  in
• 28:32
  that
• 28:32
  space
• 28:34
  with
• 28:35
  their
• 28:35
  physical
• 28:36
  presence
• 28:38
  open
• 28:39
  versus
• 28:40
  their
• 28:40
  physical
• 28:41
  presence
• 28:42
  tense
• 28:43
  and
• 28:43
  clenched,
• 28:45
  all
• 28:45
  of
• 28:46
  those
• 28:46
  things
• 28:47
  you
• 28:47
  see
• 28:47
  and
• 28:48
  feel.
• 28:49
  And
• 28:49
  there's
• 28:49
  no
• 28:49
  measurement
• 28:50
  for
• 28:50
  that,
• 28:51
  Dear
• 28:51
  Grant.
• 28:52
  There's
• 28:52
  no
• 28:52
  tool.
• 28:54
  And
• 28:54
  you
• 28:54
  walk
• 28:54
  in
• 28:55
  to
• 28:55
  be
• 28:55
  able
• 28:55
  to
• 28:56
  say,
• 28:56
  oh,
• 28:56
  the
• 28:56
  checklist.
• 28:57
  Check,
• 28:57
  check,
• 28:58
  check.
• 28:58
  A
• 28:58
  student
• 28:59
  doesn't
• 28:59
  have
• 29:00
  clenched
• 29:00
  fists
• 29:00
  during
• 29:01
  this
• 29:01
  time.
• 29:01
  You
• 29:02
  know,
• 29:02
  it
• 29:02
  just.
• 29:02
  There's.
• 29:03
  There's
• 29:03
  not
• 29:03
  a
• 29:03
  tool,
• 29:04
  nor
• 29:04
  should
• 29:05
  there
• 29:05
  be.
• 29:06
  As
• 29:06
  an
• 29:06
  evaluating
• 29:07
  administrator
• 29:08
  who
• 29:08
  was
• 29:09
  asked
• 29:10
  again
• 29:10
  and
• 29:10
  again
• 29:11
  to,
• 29:12
  you
• 29:12
  know,
• 29:13
  participate
• 29:14
  in
• 29:14
  our
• 29:15
  professional
• 29:15
  review
• 29:16
  protocol,
• 29:18
  coming
• 29:19
  into
• 29:19
  classrooms
• 29:20
  where
• 29:21
  it
• 29:21
  was
• 29:21
  clear
• 29:21
  to
• 29:21
  me
• 29:22
  students
• 29:23
  felt
• 29:25
  welcomed
• 29:26
  and
• 29:26
  comfortable
• 29:28
  bringing
• 29:28
  who
• 29:29
  they
• 29:29
  were
• 29:30
  to
• 29:31
  that
• 29:31
  room,
• 29:31
  to
• 29:32
  the
• 29:32
  conversations
• 29:33
  in
• 29:33
  that
• 29:33
  room,
• 29:34
  that
• 29:34
  clearly
• 29:35
  they
• 29:35
  were
• 29:36
  valued
• 29:36
  for
• 29:37
  who
• 29:37
  they
• 29:37
  were
• 29:37
  and
• 29:37
  who
• 29:38
  they
• 29:38
  were
• 29:38
  bringing
• 29:39
  to
• 29:39
  that
• 29:40
  space.
• 29:42
  Like
• 29:42
  you
• 29:42
  said,
• 29:42
  Kath,
• 29:43
  you
• 29:43
  feel
• 29:44
  it.
• 29:44
  It
• 29:44
  is
• 29:44
  palpable.
• 29:45
  You
• 29:45
  hear
• 29:46
  it.
• 29:48
  And
• 29:48
  apart
• 29:49
  from
• 29:49
  all
• 29:50
  of
• 29:50
  the
• 29:50
  content
• 29:51
  objectives
• 29:51
  that.
• 29:52
  That
• 29:52
  were
• 29:52
  listed
• 29:53
  on
• 29:53
  the
• 29:53
  board
• 29:54
  and
• 29:54
  the
• 29:54
  formative
• 29:55
  assessments
• 29:55
  that
• 29:56
  are
• 29:56
  occurring
• 29:57
  and
• 29:57
  the
• 29:57
  tracking
• 29:57
  of
• 29:58
  student
• 29:58
  performance
• 29:58
  on
• 29:59
  those
• 29:59
  tasks,
• 30:00
  what
• 30:01
  I
• 30:01
  wanted
• 30:01
  to
• 30:01
  talk
• 30:02
  about
• 30:02
  again
• 30:02
  and
• 30:03
  again
• 30:03
  was
• 30:04
  how
• 30:04
  precious
• 30:04
  and
• 30:05
  important
• 30:06
  the
• 30:07
  vibe
• 30:07
  of
• 30:07
  that
• 30:08
  room
• 30:08
  and
• 30:08
  that
• 30:09
  space
• 30:09
  and
• 30:09
  that
• 30:09
  community
• 30:10
  of
• 30:10
  learners
• 30:11
  was
• 30:11
  to
• 30:11
  me.
• 30:12
  And
• 30:12
  I.
• 30:13
  I
• 30:13
  was
• 30:13
  always
• 30:14
  curious
• 30:14
  to
• 30:15
  hear
• 30:15
  from
• 30:15
  different
• 30:16
  teachers
• 30:18
  why
• 30:18
  that
• 30:18
  was
• 30:18
  happening
• 30:19
  in
• 30:20
  their
• 30:20
  view,
• 30:21
  what
• 30:21
  they
• 30:21
  felt
• 30:22
  they
• 30:22
  had
• 30:22
  done
• 30:22
  and
• 30:23
  what
• 30:23
  their
• 30:23
  learners
• 30:24
  had
• 30:24
  done
• 30:24
  to
• 30:25
  create
• 30:25
  that.
• 30:27
  I
• 30:27
  think
• 30:28
  when
• 30:28
  we
• 30:28
  care
• 30:29
  about
• 30:29
  it
• 30:30
  and
• 30:30
  we
• 30:30
  talk
• 30:31
  to
• 30:31
  it
• 30:32
  and
• 30:32
  we
• 30:32
  ask
• 30:33
  questions
• 30:34
  and
• 30:34
  we
• 30:34
  dig
• 30:35
  in
• 30:35
  with
• 30:35
  curiosity,
• 30:37
  we
• 30:37
  cultivate
• 30:38
  the
• 30:38
  importance,
• 30:40
  the
• 30:40
  mattering
• 30:41
  of
• 30:41
  that
• 30:42
  kind
• 30:43
  of
• 30:44
  environment,
• 30:46
  that
• 30:47
  quality
• 30:48
  place
• 30:49
  that
• 30:50
  everybody's
• 30:51
  responsible
• 30:51
  for,
• 30:51
  but
• 30:52
  chiefly
• 30:52
  the
• 30:52
  person
• 30:53
  who
• 30:54
  carries
• 30:54
  the
• 30:54
  greatest
• 30:55
  authority
• 30:55
  and
• 30:55
  responsibility,
• 30:57
  the
• 30:58
  teacher
• 30:59
  chiefly
• 30:59
  carries
• 31:00
  so
• 31:00
  much
• 31:01
  of
• 31:01
  that
• 31:01
  responsibility.
• 31:03
  And
• 31:05
  so
• 31:05
  while
• 31:05
  it's
• 31:06
  not
• 31:06
  a
• 31:06
  metric,
• 31:07
  it's
• 31:07
  definitely
• 31:08
  something
• 31:09
  that.
• 31:09
  That
• 31:10
  needs
• 31:10
  our
• 31:10
  attention
• 31:11
  as
• 31:12
  leaders
• 31:12
  and
• 31:13
  needs
• 31:14
  Our
• 31:15
  curiosity
• 31:16
  and
• 31:16
  our
• 31:16
  recognition
• 31:17
  and
• 31:17
  our
• 31:18
  celebration
• 31:19
  because
• 31:19
  it's
• 31:20
  not
• 31:20
  necessarily
• 31:21
  viewed
• 31:21
  as
• 31:21
  content,
• 31:22
  but
• 31:22
  content
• 31:22
  is
• 31:23
  impossible
• 31:23
  without
• 31:23
  it.
• 31:24
  Not
• 31:24
  really.
• 31:25
  Yeah,
• 31:25
  and
• 31:25
  that's
• 31:26
  exactly
• 31:26
  what
• 31:26
  I
• 31:26
  said.
• 31:26
  It's
• 31:27
  not
• 31:27
  as
• 31:27
  if
• 31:28
  learning
• 31:29
  isn't
• 31:29
  happening.
• 31:30
  I
• 31:30
  mean,
• 31:31
  that
• 31:31
  learning
• 31:32
  is
• 31:32
  happening
• 31:33
  at
• 31:34
  such
• 31:34
  a
• 31:34
  deep,
• 31:35
  deep
• 31:36
  level.
• 31:37
  It's
• 31:37
  not
• 31:38
  because
• 31:38
  you
• 31:38
  walk
• 31:39
  in
• 31:39
  and
• 31:39
  kids
• 31:39
  are
• 31:40
  coloring
• 31:41
  and
• 31:41
  they're
• 31:41
  playing
• 31:41
  games
• 31:42
  that
• 31:42
  they're
• 31:43
  not
• 31:44
  engaged
• 31:45
  in
• 31:46
  really
• 31:48
  deep
• 31:48
  learning.
• 31:50
  Because
• 31:50
  they
• 31:50
  are.
• 31:52
  Because
• 31:52
  they
• 31:52
  can.
• 31:54
  Yeah.
• 31:55
  I'm
• 31:55
  reminded
• 31:56
  by
• 31:56
  your
• 31:56
  comments,
• 31:57
  Grant,
• 31:57
  that
• 31:58
  you're
• 31:59
  talking
• 31:59
  about
• 31:59
  a
• 31:59
  principal
• 32:00
  and
• 32:00
  a
• 32:00
  superintendent.
• 32:01
  And
• 32:01
  I
• 32:01
  was
• 32:01
  in
• 32:01
  a
• 32:02
  recent
• 32:02
  conversation
• 32:03
  with
• 32:03
  a
• 32:03
  teaching
• 32:03
  candidate
• 32:04
  who's
• 32:05
  in
• 32:05
  a
• 32:05
  paid
• 32:05
  position
• 32:06
  and
• 32:07
  she's
• 32:07
  working
• 32:07
  with
• 32:08
  kindergarteners.
• 32:09
  And
• 32:09
  there
• 32:10
  are
• 32:10
  benchmarks,
• 32:11
  literacy
• 32:11
  benchmarks
• 32:12
  for
• 32:12
  her
• 32:13
  English
• 32:13
  language
• 32:14
  learners.
• 32:15
  And
• 32:15
  these
• 32:16
  5,
• 32:17
  5
• 32:17
  year
• 32:17
  olds,
• 32:19
  they
• 32:20
  need
• 32:20
  to
• 32:20
  know
• 32:20
  their
• 32:20
  letters,
• 32:21
  their
• 32:21
  letter
• 32:22
  sounds.
• 32:24
  They
• 32:24
  need
• 32:24
  these
• 32:25
  first
• 32:25
  steps
• 32:25
  because
• 32:26
  once
• 32:26
  those
• 32:27
  benchmarks
• 32:28
  are
• 32:28
  in,
• 32:28
  then
• 32:29
  in
• 32:29
  first
• 32:29
  grade
• 32:30
  there
• 32:30
  are
• 32:30
  other
• 32:30
  benchmarks
• 32:32
  and
• 32:33
  a
• 32:33
  clock
• 32:33
  is
• 32:33
  ticking
• 32:34
  for
• 32:35
  access
• 32:35
  and
• 32:37
  the
• 32:37
  access
• 32:37
  that
• 32:38
  literacy
• 32:38
  affords.
• 32:39
  And
• 32:40
  she's
• 32:40
  brand
• 32:40
  spanking
• 32:41
  new
• 32:41
  to
• 32:42
  the
• 32:42
  profession.
• 32:42
  And
• 32:43
  in
• 32:43
  our
• 32:44
  conversations
• 32:44
  I
• 32:45
  can
• 32:45
  feel
• 32:45
  the
• 32:46
  weight
• 32:46
  of
• 32:46
  those
• 32:47
  benchmarks
• 32:47
  on
• 32:48
  her
• 32:48
  shoulders.
• 32:49
  And
• 32:50
  she's
• 32:50
  got
• 32:50
  five
• 32:50
  year
• 32:51
  olds
• 32:52
  and
• 32:53
  she
• 32:54
  wants
• 32:54
  to
• 32:54
  love
• 32:55
  them
• 32:57
  and
• 32:58
  she
• 32:58
  wants
• 32:59
  to
• 32:59
  love
• 32:59
  them
• 32:59
  by
• 32:59
  giving
• 33:00
  them
• 33:00
  access.
• 33:01
  And
• 33:02
  she's
• 33:02
  asking
• 33:03
  the
• 33:03
  questions
• 33:04
  about
• 33:04
  where
• 33:05
  is
• 33:05
  the
• 33:05
  balance?
• 33:06
  How
• 33:06
  do
• 33:06
  I
• 33:06
  know
• 33:07
  I'm
• 33:07
  striking
• 33:07
  that
• 33:08
  balance?
• 33:08
  How
• 33:08
  do
• 33:09
  I.
• 33:10
  It
• 33:10
  just
• 33:10
  filters
• 33:11
  all
• 33:11
  the
• 33:11
  way
• 33:11
  through
• 33:12
  the
• 33:12
  system
• 33:13
  and
• 33:13
  there's
• 33:14
  no
• 33:14
  escaping
• 33:16
  those
• 33:16
  very
• 33:17
  real
• 33:17
  responsibilities
• 33:18
  we
• 33:19
  have
• 33:19
  as
• 33:19
  content
• 33:20
  providers
• 33:21
  of
• 33:22
  people
• 33:22
  who
• 33:22
  hold
• 33:23
  the
• 33:23
  keys
• 33:23
  to
• 33:24
  doors
• 33:24
  and
• 33:25
  access.
• 33:26
  That
• 33:26
  we
• 33:27
  don't
• 33:27
  fail,
• 33:28
  but
• 33:29
  how
• 33:29
  do
• 33:29
  we
• 33:30
  succeed
• 33:32
  becomes
• 33:32
  the
• 33:32
  question.
• 33:33
  And
• 33:33
  that's
• 33:34
  where
• 33:34
  I
• 33:34
  feel
• 33:35
  like
• 33:36
  our
• 33:36
  practices
• 33:37
  around
• 33:38
  cultivating
• 33:39
  hope
• 33:39
  and
• 33:41
  bringing
• 33:41
  joy
• 33:42
  to
• 33:43
  the
• 33:43
  learning
• 33:43
  moment
• 33:44
  and
• 33:44
  cultivating
• 33:45
  it
• 33:45
  and
• 33:45
  welcoming
• 33:46
  it
• 33:46
  and
• 33:46
  celebrating
• 33:47
  it
• 33:47
  and
• 33:47
  making
• 33:47
  it
• 33:48
  a
• 33:48
  part
• 33:48
  of
• 33:48
  our
• 33:48
  practice
• 33:49
  are
• 33:49
  so
• 33:49
  essential,
• 33:50
  so
• 33:50
  joy
• 33:51
  filled.
• 33:51
  Learning
• 33:51
  doesn't
• 33:52
  mean
• 33:52
  we
• 33:52
  don't
• 33:52
  teach
• 33:53
  content,
• 33:54
  doesn't
• 33:54
  mean
• 33:54
  we
• 33:55
  don't
• 33:55
  do
• 33:55
  those
• 33:55
  things
• 33:55
  we're
• 33:56
  supposed
• 33:56
  to
• 33:56
  be
• 33:56
  doing.
• 33:57
  Right.
• 33:58
  It's
• 33:58
  the
• 33:58
  way
• 34:00
  that
• 34:00
  we
• 34:01
  do
• 34:01
  it.
• 34:03
  It's
• 34:03
  the
• 34:03
  way
• 34:04
  that
• 34:04
  we
• 34:04
  do
• 34:04
  it.
• 34:05
  So
• 34:05
  I
• 34:05
  was
• 34:05
  thinking,
• 34:05
  as
• 34:06
  y'
• 34:06
  all
• 34:06
  were
• 34:06
  talking,
• 34:06
  I
• 34:07
  was
• 34:07
  thinking,
• 34:07
  I
• 34:07
  was
• 34:07
  like,
• 34:07
  you
• 34:08
  know,
• 34:08
  so,
• 34:08
  you
• 34:08
  know,
• 34:09
  one
• 34:10
  of
• 34:10
  the
• 34:10
  words
• 34:10
  that
• 34:10
  I
• 34:10
  hate
• 34:11
  just,
• 34:12
  I
• 34:12
  hate
• 34:12
  this
• 34:12
  word
• 34:14
  is
• 34:15
  engagement.
• 34:16
  I
• 34:16
  hate
• 34:17
  that
• 34:17
  word.
• 34:17
  I
• 34:18
  hate
• 34:18
  that
• 34:18
  word
• 34:18
  on
• 34:18
  walkthroughs.
• 34:19
  I
• 34:19
  just.
• 34:20
  Right.
• 34:20
  You
• 34:20
  know,
• 34:20
  because
• 34:22
  we've
• 34:22
  struggled
• 34:22
  with
• 34:22
  that
• 34:23
  word.
• 34:23
  Right.
• 34:23
  What
• 34:23
  is
• 34:23
  engagement?
• 34:24
  Right.
• 34:24
  Their
• 34:25
  head's
• 34:25
  not
• 34:25
  on
• 34:25
  the
• 34:25
  desk,
• 34:26
  so
• 34:26
  they're
• 34:26
  looking
• 34:26
  at,
• 34:27
  they're
• 34:27
  looking
• 34:27
  forward.
• 34:28
  Well,
• 34:28
  you
• 34:28
  know,
• 34:29
  we're
• 34:30
  measuring
• 34:30
  we
• 34:30
  walk
• 34:31
  into
• 34:31
  classrooms
• 34:31
  doing
• 34:31
  walkthroughs
• 34:32
  and
• 34:32
  we're
• 34:32
  measuring
• 34:32
  engagement.
• 34:33
  Who's
• 34:33
  looking
• 34:33
  in
• 34:34
  the
• 34:34
  right
• 34:34
  direction
• 34:35
  rather
• 34:35
  than
• 34:35
  thinking
• 34:36
  about
• 34:36
  what
• 34:36
  is
• 34:37
  it
• 34:37
  they're
• 34:37
  engaged
• 34:37
  in?
• 34:38
  Is
• 34:38
  what
• 34:39
  they're
• 34:39
  engaged
• 34:39
  in?
• 34:39
  Does
• 34:39
  what
• 34:40
  they're
• 34:40
  engaged
• 34:40
  in
• 34:40
  matter?
• 34:42
  Is
• 34:42
  it
• 34:43
  relevant?
• 34:44
  Is
• 34:45
  it
• 34:45
  interesting?
• 34:46
  Or
• 34:46
  is
• 34:46
  it
• 34:47
  just?
• 34:47
  And
• 34:47
  so
• 34:48
  I
• 34:48
  was
• 34:48
  thinking,
• 34:49
  so
• 34:49
  what
• 34:49
  if,
• 34:51
  what
• 34:51
  if
• 34:51
  we
• 34:51
  replaced
• 34:52
  engagement
• 34:53
  and
• 34:53
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• 34:54
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• 34:54
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• 34:55
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• 34:57
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• 34:57
  started
• 34:57
  walking
• 34:58
  into
• 34:58
  classrooms
• 35:00
  looking
• 35:00
  for
• 35:01
  joy?
• 35:02
  Joy
• 35:02
  filled
• 35:03
  learning,
• 35:05
  joy
• 35:05
  filled
• 35:06
  teaching.
• 35:07
  Not
• 35:07
  to
• 35:07
  quantify
• 35:08
  it,
• 35:09
  not
• 35:09
  to
• 35:10
  put
• 35:10
  a
• 35:11
  number
• 35:11
  on
• 35:11
  it,
• 35:12
  but
• 35:12
  to
• 35:13
  value
• 35:13
  it.
• 35:14
  Going
• 35:15
  in
• 35:15
  classrooms,
• 35:17
  supporting
• 35:17
  my
• 35:18
  teachers,
• 35:20
  I'm
• 35:20
  looking
• 35:20
  for
• 35:21
  joy,
• 35:22
  right?
• 35:23
  A
• 35:24
  very
• 35:24
  interesting
• 35:25
  question
• 35:25
  I
• 35:25
  ask,
• 35:26
  right,
• 35:27
  Alicia.
• 35:28
  So
• 35:28
  I
• 35:29
  don't
• 35:29
  mind
• 35:29
  the
• 35:29
  term
• 35:30
  engagement,
• 35:30
  right?
• 35:33
  And
• 35:33
  for
• 35:33
  me,
• 35:34
  as
• 35:35
  I
• 35:35
  walk
• 35:35
  through
• 35:35
  classrooms
• 35:36
  across
• 35:36
  the
• 35:36
  country,
• 35:37
  it's
• 35:37
  engagement
• 35:38
  versus
• 35:38
  compliance.
• 35:39
  Yes.
• 35:41
  So
• 35:41
  it's
• 35:42
  about
• 35:43
  deep
• 35:43
  drilling
• 35:44
  engagement.
• 35:46
  So
• 35:46
  whether
• 35:46
  I'm
• 35:47
  kneeling
• 35:47
  at
• 35:47
  the
• 35:47
  kindergarten
• 35:48
  desk
• 35:49
  or
• 35:49
  on
• 35:49
  the
• 35:49
  floor,
• 35:51
  or
• 35:51
  kneeling
• 35:52
  at
• 35:52
  the
• 35:52
  second
• 35:53
  and
• 35:53
  third
• 35:53
  grade,
• 35:54
  or
• 35:54
  I'm
• 35:54
  standing
• 35:55
  a
• 35:55
  little
• 35:55
  bit
• 35:55
  bent
• 35:56
  over
• 35:57
  in
• 35:57
  the
• 35:57
  intermediate
• 35:58
  school
• 35:58
  desk,
• 35:59
  or
• 35:59
  I'm
• 35:59
  literally
• 36:00
  engaging
• 36:01
  with
• 36:01
  the
• 36:01
  high
• 36:01
  school
• 36:02
  student.
• 36:02
  I
• 36:02
  ask
• 36:03
  three
• 36:03
  questions
• 36:04
  to
• 36:04
  the
• 36:04
  students
• 36:05
  as
• 36:05
  I'm
• 36:06
  engaged
• 36:06
  in
• 36:06
  these
• 36:07
  learning
• 36:07
  walks.
• 36:08
  What
• 36:08
  are
• 36:08
  you
• 36:08
  learning
• 36:09
  today?
• 36:10
  Why
• 36:10
  does
• 36:11
  it
• 36:11
  matter
• 36:11
  to
• 36:11
  you?
• 36:12
  And
• 36:12
  how
• 36:13
  would
• 36:13
  this
• 36:13
  show
• 36:13
  up
• 36:14
  in
• 36:14
  your
• 36:14
  real
• 36:14
  life?
• 36:15
  If
• 36:16
  students
• 36:16
  aren't
• 36:17
  able
• 36:17
  to
• 36:17
  answer
• 36:17
  those
• 36:18
  questions
• 36:18
  and
• 36:19
  those
• 36:19
  are
• 36:19
  metrics,
• 36:20
  those
• 36:21
  are
• 36:21
  indicators
• 36:22
  of
• 36:22
  what's
• 36:22
  happening
• 36:23
  in
• 36:23
  their
• 36:23
  classroom.
• 36:24
  Is
• 36:24
  that
• 36:25
  classroom
• 36:25
  performative?
• 36:26
  Did
• 36:27
  this
• 36:27
  teacher
• 36:27
  just
• 36:28
  stand
• 36:28
  up
• 36:28
  from
• 36:28
  behind
• 36:29
  her
• 36:29
  desk
• 36:29
  because
• 36:30
  the
• 36:30
  learning
• 36:30
  walk
• 36:31
  team
• 36:31
  walked
• 36:31
  in?
• 36:32
  Or
• 36:33
  is
• 36:33
  this
• 36:33
  just
• 36:34
  natural
• 36:35
  practice
• 36:36
  where
• 36:36
  Kathy.
• 36:37
  It's
• 36:37
  baked
• 36:38
  in
• 36:38
  the
• 36:38
  walls.
• 36:38
  You
• 36:39
  feel
• 36:39
  that
• 36:39
  thing?
• 36:40
  It's
• 36:40
  baked
• 36:40
  in
• 36:40
  the
• 36:41
  walls,
• 36:41
  right?
• 36:41
  It's
• 36:42
  love,
• 36:42
  love
• 36:42
  in
• 36:43
  the
• 36:43
  class.
• 36:45
  I,
• 36:45
  I
• 36:45
  do
• 36:46
  that's
• 36:46
  joy
• 36:47
  filled.
• 36:48
  So
• 36:48
  I'm,
• 36:48
  I'm,
• 36:49
  I'm
• 36:49
  really
• 36:50
  ready
• 36:50
  to
• 36:50
  stay,
• 36:51
  to
• 36:51
  stay
• 36:51
  with
• 36:51
  the
• 36:52
  standard
• 36:52
  vernacular,
• 36:53
  but
• 36:54
  it's
• 36:54
  to
• 36:54
  really
• 36:54
  deep
• 36:55
  dive
• 36:55
  that
• 36:55
  thing
• 36:56
  and
• 36:56
  drill
• 36:56
  it
• 36:56
  down
• 36:57
  to,
• 36:58
  okay,
• 36:59
  engagement
• 37:00
  is
• 37:00
  A,
• 37:00
  B,
• 37:01
  C,
• 37:01
  D
• 37:01
  and
• 37:01
  E.
• 37:02
  That
• 37:02
  means
• 37:03
  when
• 37:03
  I
• 37:03
  go
• 37:03
  to.
• 37:03
  And
• 37:03
  this
• 37:04
  is
• 37:04
  exactly
• 37:04
  how
• 37:05
  I
• 37:05
  narrate
• 37:05
  this,
• 37:06
  right.
• 37:06
  And
• 37:06
  contextualize
• 37:07
  it
• 37:08
  when
• 37:08
  I
• 37:08
  go
• 37:08
  in
• 37:09
  classrooms.
• 37:09
  I
• 37:10
  need
• 37:10
  to,
• 37:11
  for
• 37:11
  the
• 37:11
  team
• 37:11
  to
• 37:11
  at
• 37:12
  least
• 37:12
  ask
• 37:12
  three
• 37:13
  students
• 37:13
  these
• 37:14
  three
• 37:14
  questions
• 37:15
  and
• 37:16
  we'll
• 37:16
  determine
• 37:17
  from
• 37:18
  the
• 37:18
  student
• 37:18
  experience
• 37:20
  whether
• 37:20
  this
• 37:20
  is
• 37:21
  engagement
• 37:22
  or
• 37:23
  compliance,
• 37:24
  then
• 37:25
  we're
• 37:25
  going
• 37:25
  to
• 37:25
  level
• 37:26
  up
• 37:27
  because
• 37:27
  the
• 37:28
  next
• 37:29
  phase
• 37:29
  and
• 37:30
  step
• 37:30
  is
• 37:30
  how
• 37:31
  we
• 37:31
  going
• 37:31
  to
• 37:31
  solve
• 37:32
  for
• 37:32
  this?
• 37:33
  So
• 37:33
  what
• 37:33
  are
• 37:33
  we
• 37:34
  going
• 37:34
  to
• 37:34
  do
• 37:35
  next?
• 37:36
  And
• 37:36
  that,
• 37:37
  my
• 37:37
  friends,
• 37:37
  brings
• 37:38
  us
• 37:38
  to
• 37:38
  the
• 37:38
  end
• 37:39
  of
• 37:39
  this
• 37:40
  episode.
• 37:40
  The
• 37:41
  future
• 37:41
  belongs
• 37:41
  to
• 37:42
  students
• 37:42
  who
• 37:42
  have
• 37:42
  experienced
• 37:43
  learning
• 37:44
  as
• 37:44
  joy,
• 37:45
  because
• 37:45
  joy
• 37:46
  fuels
• 37:47
  courage,
• 37:48
  curiosity
• 37:49
  and
• 37:49
  connection.
• 37:50
  That's
• 37:51
  what
• 37:51
  it
• 37:51
  means
• 37:51
  to
• 37:52
  build
• 37:52
  future
• 37:52
  ready
• 37:53
  schools
• 37:53
  where
• 37:54
  innovation
• 37:54
  is
• 37:54
  rooted
• 37:55
  in
• 37:55
  humanity.
• 37:56
  We'll
• 37:56
  see
• 37:56
  you
• 37:57
  next
• 37:57
  week
• 37:57
  in
• 37:57
  the
• 37:58
  Wheelhouse.
• 38:03
  If
• 38:03
  you'd
• 38:04
  like
• 38:04
  to
• 38:04
  hear
• 38:04
  more
• 38:04
  of
• 38:04
  this
• 38:05
  amazing
• 38:05
  conversation,
• 38:06
  then
• 38:06
  we
• 38:07
  have
• 38:07
  a
• 38:07
  second
• 38:08
  part
• 38:08
  or
• 38:08
  an
• 38:08
  after
• 38:09
  show
• 38:10
  called
• 38:10
  the
• 38:10
  Wheelhouse
• 38:11
  All
• 38:11
  Hands
• 38:12
  on
• 38:12
  Deck
• 38:13
  only
• 38:13
  available
• 38:14
  at
• 38:14
  Learn
• 38:15
  Harbor.
• 38:15
  So
• 38:16
  join
• 38:16
  us
• 38:16
  in
• 38:17
  the
• 38:17
  Wheelhouse
• 38:17
  below
• 38:18
  deck@learnharbor.thinkific.com
• 38:27
  and
• 38:27
  that's
• 38:28
  a
• 38:28
  wrap
• 38:28
  on
• 38:28
  season
• 38:29
  11,
• 38:29
  episode
• 38:30
  two
• 38:30
  of
• 38:30
  the
• 38:30
  Wheelhouse.
• 38:31
  A
• 38:32
  special
• 38:32
  thank
• 38:32
  you
• 38:32
  to
• 38:33
  our
• 38:33
  Wheelhouse
• 38:33
  team,
• 38:34
  Kathy
• 38:34
  Mone,
• 38:35
  Michael
• 38:35
  Pipa
• 38:36
  and
• 38:36
  Dr.
• 38:36
  Alicia
• 38:37
  Munro
• 38:37
  for
• 38:37
  helping
• 38:38
  us
• 38:38
  navigate
• 38:38
  this
• 38:39
  season's
• 38:39
  journey
• 38:40
  toward
• 38:40
  Future
• 38:41
  Ready
• 38:42
  innovation
• 38:43
  rooted
• 38:44
  in
• 38:44
  humanity.
• 38:45
  Next
• 38:45
  week
• 38:46
  we're
• 38:46
  back
• 38:46
  in
• 38:46
  the
• 38:46
  studio
• 38:46
  with
• 38:47
  Dr.
• 38:47
  Janice
• 38:47
  Gobert,
• 38:48
  a
• 38:48
  cognitive
• 38:49
  scientist
• 38:50
  and
• 38:50
  full
• 38:50
  professor
• 38:51
  of
• 38:51
  Educational
• 38:52
  Psychology
• 38:52
  and
• 38:53
  Learning
• 38:53
  Sciences
• 38:54
  at
• 38:54
  Rutgers
• 38:55
  Graduate
• 38:55
  School
• 38:56
  of
• 38:56
  Education.
• 38:57
  We'll
• 38:57
  be
• 38:57
  talking
• 38:58
  all
• 38:58
  things
• 38:59
  AI
• 39:00
  and
• 39:00
  its
• 39:00
  role
• 39:00
  in
• 39:01
  future
• 39:01
  Ready
• 39:01
  schools
• 39:02
  where
• 39:02
  innovation
• 39:03
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