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Rushion interview P-Valley star, John Clarence Stewart describes how Zoey's Extraordinary Playlist propelled his career! · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to my show, Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your
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  Speaker 1: host with Sean McDonald. I recognized that we all have
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  Speaker 1: different definitions of success. For you, it may be the
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  Speaker 1: other people's success stories and start writing your own. You
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  Speaker 1: lead with your gifts and don't let your friends, family,
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  Speaker 1: or coworkers stop you from planning or living your dreams.
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  Speaker 1: My guest is John's Clarence Stewart, an Atlanta native. He
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  Speaker 1: co starred on the ACCLAIM hit series P Valley on Stars.
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  Speaker 1: Also start on the NBC winning winning show is always
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  Speaker 1: a start in a playlist. The movie is always a
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  Speaker 1: Straordinary Christmas. Just got two Emmy nominations for Outstanding the
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  Speaker 1: Television Movie and I'll started out Standing Choreography for Scripted Programming.
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  Speaker 1: He plays a totally different character of P Valley. P Valley,
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  Speaker 1: which airs on Stars, is engrossing drama of family, friendship
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  Speaker 1: and survival. The season that richly crafted, seriously about trust
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  Speaker 1: and betrayal while also facing the after math of decisions
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  Speaker 1: from season one. The second season introduced the new character
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  Speaker 1: called Big Teak, played by the one and only John
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  Speaker 1: Clarence Steve Stewart. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations master Class.
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  Speaker 1: For the second time, I would call him a friend,
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  Speaker 1: John Clarence Stewart. How are you doing certain, I'm doing well.
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  Speaker 1: How were you? First of all, you know, let's go
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  Speaker 1: back to Zoe before we get dive into p Valley.
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  Speaker 1: It was this suave, cool guy, always smiling, you know,
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  Speaker 1: flirty flirtations on this show. And let's talk about that show,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, the big opportunity that gave you, because we've
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  Speaker 1: seen you on other series Marvel, but this is an ongoing,
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  Speaker 1: major role opportunity on NBC, one of the great flagship networks.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about that, that opportunity and what it did for
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  Speaker 1: your career being on Zoe. UM, Zoe changed a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things for me. I was a lot of ways
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  Speaker 1: I was unknown. Um, though I've done a lot of
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  Speaker 1: work before, etcetera. You know how it goes. You can
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  Speaker 1: work at something for a long time and and um,
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  Speaker 1: a large swath of the population may not know your
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  Speaker 1: work or know who you are as part of what
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  Speaker 1: is UM. But Zoeys was also very much out of
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  Speaker 1: my comfort zone. Like I i auditioned for the show,
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  Speaker 1: I knew it was a musical. It was kind of
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  Speaker 1: a shot in the dark because I've never done something
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  Speaker 1: like that before. And each step of the way it was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, me working with people that hadn't worked with before.
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  Speaker 1: It was dancing, it was singing, it was it was
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  Speaker 1: what I love to do as an actor, stay outside
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  Speaker 1: of my comfort zone. And Um, the response was beautiful
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  Speaker 1: that Zoways actually came out in pandemic time. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: it became kind of this, this show, this lighthouse for
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  Speaker 1: a lot of different people as they were moving through
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  Speaker 1: the beginning parts of the pandemic. This this like beacon
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  Speaker 1: of joy and so it was wonderful to be associated
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  Speaker 1: with that as well. And it went in to shoot
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  Speaker 1: season two and UM Simon's arc got a little more
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  Speaker 1: personal for me, and I was really excited about that
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  Speaker 1: happening in season two. UM. Being able to perform songs
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  Speaker 1: like black Man in a White World, you know with
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  Speaker 1: Nina Simone is one of my favorites, favorite artists ever,
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  Speaker 1: And being able to you know, lend my voice to
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  Speaker 1: the story using our songs. It's kind of it was
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  Speaker 1: a dream come true for me so personally and ment
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  Speaker 1: a lot. It also did a lot for me professionally,
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  Speaker 1: and um yeah, and I think, you know, it would
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  Speaker 1: be I'd be remiss to say that. I think that, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Big Tea can My work on p Valley
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  Speaker 1: sometimes it's somehow resonates a lot more because it's so
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  Speaker 1: varied from Simon the character that I played about absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that's what really impresses people, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because everybody can play a role, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if your comedian, you're funny, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: But let's let's put his weight. That was like a
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  Speaker 1: white collar opportunity if you were just putting jobs out
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  Speaker 1: there and this was a straight street, this is straight urban,
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  Speaker 1: this is straight around the corner, make you nervous type
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  Speaker 1: character where you had this other guy you know if
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  Speaker 1: he well, if that character from Zoe walked down the street,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you you just keep walking high there right there,
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  Speaker 1: you know, big teeth cover on the street. I may
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  Speaker 1: walk on the other side of the street. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Worried about what's going on this brotherly?
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  Speaker 1: Who is he talking to? Why is he mad at
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  Speaker 1: the world? Is he looking at me? I'll be trying
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  Speaker 1: to push my whole family to the other side of
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  Speaker 1: the street. So with that being said, how did the
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  Speaker 1: how did the casting opportunity come your way for something
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  Speaker 1: that was so extreme to what we had seen and
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  Speaker 1: became very excited about in your career development on Zoe,
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  Speaker 1: I know the credit for that goes to my agents.
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  Speaker 1: They they got the they got the appointment. I read
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  Speaker 1: and I read died and I fell on love with
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  Speaker 1: I already loved Coatre Hall. I'm very familiar with her
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  Speaker 1: work from New York and all of this um, but
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  Speaker 1: the characters specifically intrigued me because he seens I I
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  Speaker 1: understood him. There is a pain that he felt that
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  Speaker 1: felt familiar in some ways, and though there were a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things that are different, you know, in our
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  Speaker 1: in our upbringings, in our lives, etcetera, there is like,
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  Speaker 1: there is this um commonality. And one of the audition
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  Speaker 1: scenes that landed with me heavily was the scene in
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  Speaker 1: episode of four where Tea is talking about you know, um,
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  Speaker 1: the world not being made or not wanting him, the
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  Speaker 1: world wanting him. And I read that and I was
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  Speaker 1: moved to tears, and I thought, I have to I
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  Speaker 1: have to do Manhattan the Ring. After audition for this
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  Speaker 1: and I've never I haven't. I had not seen are
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  Speaker 1: character on television. UM say something that encapsulated my experience
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  Speaker 1: like this, and I was just like wow, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: then I auditioned. Um. I actually went on vacation at
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  Speaker 1: that time. I went to I was I went to
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  Speaker 1: Hawaii with my girlfriend and we were in Hawaii, we
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  Speaker 1: were finishing up our first Airbnb and UM I had
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  Speaker 1: a callback with Quatorian Barb, who directed the first episode,
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  Speaker 1: and in that conversation we you know, we did some
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  Speaker 1: work and stuff like that. We talked about the characters
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  Speaker 1: we and the character Tiak for me is he just
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  Speaker 1: reminds me of so many men that I know, minds,
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  Speaker 1: people that I grew up with. Reminds me of people
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  Speaker 1: who's whose stories, um I haven't seen honored. And I
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  Speaker 1: felt a call and a responsibility to him. You know
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  Speaker 1: the greediness of that character. You know, I'm a big
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  Speaker 1: fan of ours back in the day. You know that greediness,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And so because that was that was that
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  Speaker 1: that television show exposed us? So I was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've never spent any time in jail. I've never done
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  Speaker 1: any type of street street activity. They would even put
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  Speaker 1: me in his same neighborhood activity. I come from the hood,
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  Speaker 1: but I moved out of the hood. But watching Ours
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  Speaker 1: and watching that, the the the energy of that particular show,
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  Speaker 1: and then watching your character was like watching a version
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  Speaker 1: of that, Like you stepped out of ours? If I
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  Speaker 1: was your character? Was that credible to me that he
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  Speaker 1: has a lot of pain because I knew where you
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  Speaker 1: came from. I knew the the violence I need to torture,
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  Speaker 1: the hidden secrets of not being able to tell people
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  Speaker 1: who you were, but dealing with the consequences of what
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  Speaker 1: that could happen behind bars. Then coming out and then
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  Speaker 1: seeing the world that you came into was that they
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  Speaker 1: weren't black men. That was the shocking part for your
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  Speaker 1: character to me was like, I've never spent a day
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  Speaker 1: behind bars, And I asked that question and you felt
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  Speaker 1: like your character to me was like, was I safer
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  Speaker 1: behind bars or not? So? What what? What am I
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  Speaker 1: hitting the parallel correct? If what you were trying to
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  Speaker 1: generate for me as a viewer. I mean, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think that you know so much of what Tie was
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  Speaker 1: moving through. He was COATORI Hall's mouthpiece, right, and there
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  Speaker 1: are certain things that she wanted to say, and I
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  Speaker 1: felt very strongly that she chose this character to say
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  Speaker 1: certain specific things about the world that we're living in now. Fatigue,
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  Speaker 1: Like you said, he's in prison, he comes out, and
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  Speaker 1: the way that it lands on me is that he's
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  Speaker 1: there's no place for him. There's no place for him
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  Speaker 1: in the world. There's no place for him in the
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  Speaker 1: world at large. And then you get to see as
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  Speaker 1: the story goes on that there's really no place for
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  Speaker 1: him even in his the intimate world. So like it,
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  Speaker 1: he's a he's a displaced black man in the world,
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  Speaker 1: and you know it. And when you have someone that
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  Speaker 1: is been in prison and been in the whole, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, has kind of had an entire ecosystem that
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  Speaker 1: that in the entire ecosystem unto himself that he's had
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  Speaker 1: to you know, adapt to an order to survive, and
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  Speaker 1: then he's thrust out into the world world is very
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  Speaker 1: different from the ecosystem that he'd you know, that he'd
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  Speaker 1: been living in for this amount of time and that
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  Speaker 1: is jarring, that is and to me as a black
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  Speaker 1: man myself, like you're saying, I feel like that on
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  Speaker 1: a I feel like that on a consistent basis. You know. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: That was one of the things that did connect me
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  Speaker 1: to the role and to the character story. This idea
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  Speaker 1: that um of not being wanted in the world and
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  Speaker 1: the world not being made for someone like me. And um, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass
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  Speaker 1: with Sean McDonald. Now let's return to Money Making Conversations
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  Speaker 1: Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. You know, I'm talking to John
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  Speaker 1: Clarence Stewart, or the Latin Native, one of the stars
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  Speaker 1: of Zoe's Extraordinary Playlists on the NBC Amy nominated show,
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  Speaker 1: and also one of the current stars of p Valley
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  Speaker 1: This is Arizona Stars. Every Sunday night, I said, my
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  Speaker 1: I said, I'll be ready. I'm gonna tell you something.
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  Speaker 1: One one scene that you did, Man, I got the
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  Speaker 1: John when you broke up that table man in that
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  Speaker 1: hotel room. Ah, I was I was afraid for hair
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  Speaker 1: about never room. I didn't know if this was the
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  Speaker 1: psychotic break that I was waiting on that You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: hurt somebody because you took it there. I mean the
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  Speaker 1: physicality of that moment, because you look like you are
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  Speaker 1: tortured spirit. You know, you didn't come out of the
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  Speaker 1: prison cut up. You come out of the prison looking
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  Speaker 1: like a guy who just got out of prison. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Who wanted who? Who thought a
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  Speaker 1: life was waiting on him? Every time you had an idea,
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  Speaker 1: it was shot down. Every time you wanted to do
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  Speaker 1: something creative, it wasn't met with any positive results. And
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  Speaker 1: then you're watching the world just changed right in front
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  Speaker 1: of your eyes, and all you could react was violently.
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  Speaker 1: That's what you were taught in jail. So talk about
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  Speaker 1: that moment and setting it up, and how did the
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  Speaker 1: other actors and actresses react in real life to that scene.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, in real life, everybody was
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  Speaker 1: incredibly on board. They knew what the scene was, what
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  Speaker 1: we needed to do. Uh actually they know what they
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  Speaker 1: got to do. But then when they see it start happening,
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  Speaker 1: we did. You know, we did the rehearse and we
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  Speaker 1: go through all of the you know, we do the stunts.
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  Speaker 1: When we do the you know, this is the table,
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  Speaker 1: this is the d D right, and then we then
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  Speaker 1: we do the walkthrough, and for the actor that's like,
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  Speaker 1: at least for me, that's a really important time, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to try it and to go there and
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  Speaker 1: to see what happens. And I think that everybody was.
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  Speaker 1: It's in the script, like so much of it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's in the text. Um, everybody read it, and I think,
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  Speaker 1: but it was different. It was different to be there
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  Speaker 1: in the flesh and to have this very uh sensitive
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  Speaker 1: and raw, open wound of a black man responding to this,
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  Speaker 1: responding to everybody's numbness. And I think that one of
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  Speaker 1: the one of the things I was paramount with COTR
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  Speaker 1: is that she wanted to make sure that we articulated
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  Speaker 1: in the show that the black experience is not a
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  Speaker 1: monolith that we're everybody has a different experience of the
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  Speaker 1: things that are happening in the world. Um, it's just
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  Speaker 1: a fatigue because of where he'd been and because of
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  Speaker 1: you know, how we how he was consuming black death
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  Speaker 1: through the through the telephone. It's a very specific way
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  Speaker 1: of seeing of consuming black death, very specific way, and
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  Speaker 1: he had never done that and so everybody else they've
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  Speaker 1: done that before. They they're they're kind of conditioned now,
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  Speaker 1: as we all are to some extent, we're conditioned to
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  Speaker 1: that way of processing that trauma, even re traumatizing ourselves
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  Speaker 1: as we're watching it. There's articles about it, etcetera. But
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  Speaker 1: Tique had never experienced it. He doesn't have the tools.
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  Speaker 1: I think also with t you looking at someone who
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  Speaker 1: he's experiencing so much inside, but he doesn't have the
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  Speaker 1: tools to communicate it, to transmute it, to make it
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  Speaker 1: into anything else. And the only thing he can do
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  Speaker 1: is kind of steward it. And it's not untill like
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  Speaker 1: you know, and you look at even right up until
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  Speaker 1: like for the pinch that begets that scene, this moment
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  Speaker 1: where Rome turns the TV off, a very like primal moment,
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  Speaker 1: a moment of like you know that the Rome even
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  Speaker 1: talks about he says, you know, he talks about like
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  Speaker 1: that I could did I commit a correctional facility for PA?
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  Speaker 1: This is going, this is like all of this, all
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  Speaker 1: of this pain and all of this rate looking at
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  Speaker 1: you know, you're looking at a behavior and that the
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  Speaker 1: closest outlet to that, the closest outlet for this teakettle
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  Speaker 1: to release steam is through this route. And then Rome
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  Speaker 1: says the things about like his his uncle and what
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  Speaker 1: he says about you know what if it is his
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  Speaker 1: fault and what did he do? And and he's a
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  Speaker 1: black man, he's a big guy, so all of these
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  Speaker 1: different things, and he doesn't It doesn't make it just
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  Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. It's so clear. Justice is so clear.
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  Speaker 1: It's really clear. It's really clear in a lot of
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  Speaker 1: ways when I look at what you're doing. I'm speaking
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  Speaker 1: to John Clarence Stewart, he plays the character Big Tique
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  Speaker 1: on the series p Valley. The thing about it is
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  Speaker 1: that there's such an authenticity to the series, the language,
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  Speaker 1: the environment. Um, you know, it's a fear factor. You know.
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  Speaker 1: The reason I really love the series is that we're
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  Speaker 1: telling our story, a version of our story, which we
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  Speaker 1: should be all right, you know, twenty years of old
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  Speaker 1: black people, I can't care lets that we don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be talking like that, you know, and they still
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  Speaker 1: kind of complained. But there's this's just a story, this
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  Speaker 1: is TV, this is a movie, this is serious. Why
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  Speaker 1: can't we do that? And the beauty of being able
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  Speaker 1: to do this today is what excites me because that
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  Speaker 1: allows us to really push our creative outlets the relationship
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  Speaker 1: that Rome had with you was always like does he
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  Speaker 1: really know who he talking to? That to me engage
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  Speaker 1: me as a viewer, Like, But the thing about that
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  Speaker 1: I liked about where the scripts went was they never
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  Speaker 1: went where I thought they were gonna go, which is
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  Speaker 1: great storytelling, which is great acting because you're Rome never
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  Speaker 1: got into anything physical and I just knew you gonna
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  Speaker 1: take him out. I just knew that. And so and
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  Speaker 1: like I said, when you walked through the scene, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just gonna give you credit for what credit is. When
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  Speaker 1: I watched something on TV, I've I've been blessed. I
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  Speaker 1: watched a lot of great acting. I've cast a lot
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  Speaker 1: of great people over the years. Been there's an industry
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  Speaker 1: on the other side of the casting when it was
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  Speaker 1: Night four and so and and so. I've seen the
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  Speaker 1: Talent Gabriel Union, I've seen the Kevin Hadds, I've seen
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  Speaker 1: the Jamie Fox, I've seen them on Niques, the Robert
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  Speaker 1: Towns and Steve Harvey's, I've seen the list is really
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  Speaker 1: really long. And that scene in that hotel room, which
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to because I know that you
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  Speaker 1: could rehearse something, but you took it to a sense
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  Speaker 1: of force, which I think is important. Of force. You
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  Speaker 1: are a force in that scene that when you left
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  Speaker 1: the room, it was it was a relaxation that nothing
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  Speaker 1: violent happened. That's how big you were in that moment. John,
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  Speaker 1: that big t character was like, Wow, we're all alive,
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  Speaker 1: we're all breathing. Oh, because it was just that powerful.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's what I was just saying is that
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  Speaker 1: I know y'all rehearsed it, but I gotta give you
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  Speaker 1: credit with credits due when you take a moment and
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  Speaker 1: you scare us as as viewers because we emotionally engaged. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we emotionally don't want anything to happen to nobody. We
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  Speaker 1: know you the guy in here that could potentially create
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  Speaker 1: that harm, even to a little murder, even to Mississippi Rome.
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  Speaker 1: I can care less because he's told okay, So if
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  Speaker 1: he go, he go okay. But then no, that's life.
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  Speaker 1: You did it, man. And so that's what I was saying,
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  Speaker 1: is that even though they knew what was the was
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  Speaker 1: what was the general and the director walked up to
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  Speaker 1: you when the other cast members to just set people,
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  Speaker 1: what were their reactions to that scene? Everyone's reactions to
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  Speaker 1: the scene was usually when I work there and specifically
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  Speaker 1: a scene like that, like to stay in a certain
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  Speaker 1: kind of kind of space, like yes, shooting it. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's like it helps. I think it helps everybody.
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  Speaker 1: For me, you know, I don't believe in being an atole,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't do that, um that. I do kind
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  Speaker 1: of stay to myself and kind of stew and whatever
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  Speaker 1: is happening in the scene and and what the characters
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  Speaker 1: moving through and um and I think that everybody kind
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  Speaker 1: of honored that. Everybody honored that no, because they knew
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  Speaker 1: that where I needed to go, and they knew that
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  Speaker 1: um uh, that it was it was essential for the
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  Speaker 1: telling of the story that team go to that place.
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  Speaker 1: I think also to that point, we talked about the
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  Speaker 1: exclusivity and the force and all of that of teath.
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  Speaker 1: I just also want to highlight the fact that there
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  Speaker 1: was in that chaos, there was still a straint because
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  Speaker 1: a man like him could have put hands on anybody
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  Speaker 1: and like, and yet he didn't. He put his foot
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  Speaker 1: through a table like so like in the midst of
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  Speaker 1: all of that, all of that, there was still and
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  Speaker 1: then they seem like it was you know, even to
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  Speaker 1: the character like, but there was still a choice, there
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  Speaker 1: was still a decision not to do a thing right,
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  Speaker 1: to not go to that place. Specifically when it was um,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: when it was Scotti's character, it was just like very
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  Speaker 1: very Yeah, it was amazing. We'll be right back with
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. You know,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of television shows due the COVID experience,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: and none have I seen it done so real. So
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: this is really how it happens. This is how my
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: COVID experiences. This is how it felt very relatable. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to say that. Now let's talk about the scripts
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  Speaker 1: before we're moving to further When you got this specific dialogue,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: well you're thrown off by the How long did you
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  Speaker 1: have to have any coaching with the dialogue? Was a
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  Speaker 1: certain flavor that you have to bring to the dialogue
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  Speaker 1: when you were looking at the scripts that were being
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: presented to you for each episode. Now, there wasn't I
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: wasn't thrown on, but it's very you know, the first season,
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  Speaker 1: but this is this is written very intentionally, you know,
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  Speaker 1: very with with a dialect that specific chuckle, Lisa and
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: all of these folks. Um, there was dialect work that
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: they had to do. And they do have dialect coaches
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  Speaker 1: on the show with one of them like a little
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: bit here and there, would speak through a few things,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and they give me some notice as far as elongating
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: a volume here or you know, making sure that things
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: were a little more shopped up or or smoothed out
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: here and there. Um. Because one of the one of
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: the big access points for the audience is the is
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the lyricism and the language of the show. Yes, it
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: is part of how people know, oh I'm it's part
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: of it's part of how people were taken care of.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: People feel like, oh this is not um, this is
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: for me, right, and it's like this is for me,
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  Speaker 1: and so being intentional about that, you know before getting
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  Speaker 1: on set, right, because you do all that work and
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: then you get on set, so you let all that
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: stuff go. Can you show up and you tell the
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: stories as best as you can? Well, I would be honest.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I watched the show close caption. Okay, I'm not missing anything,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: so I ain't gonna lick to you. I close capture, brother,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I have close capture, but you ain't gonna have me
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: doing jother struggle. They're gonna catch me. No, No, I
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: have one close capture brother, no words come on. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I'm listening it, but I'm reading. I'm reading them like
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at the French movie. Yeah, you don't get
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: me brother with that rishaw No, No, Risan not gonna
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: lie to your brother. I'd close caption every episode Brother,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: every episode a p Valley, I have closed captain that
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: man because because because I don't want to miss I
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: don't I want to stay at gage, I want to
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: be involved. But that the episode, you know, when you
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: got the cards a gift and then you started peeling
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: back some of the trauma from your childhood, then the
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: violence and all that stuff, and we we get we
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: get to tell us see why you're like you are.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: To a certain degree, we've seen you being emotionally kind
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: of like kicked to the curve because you didn't expect
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: that coming in your relationship with Little Murder, and so
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: it just builds up to a moment where you know,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: we've seen domestic violence on this series and it's being
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: handled out and you got to have all these um
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: advisories at the end of the show and the episode
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: that you're in, and gotta have advisories that the end
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: of the show because it is happening. It is happening
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: in the Black community, that the gay community is being
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: recognized as in the Black community. Like I told you
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: when Nicole was on the shot, so I can tell
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: when I was growing up, I couldn't acknowledge that my
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: my uncle or cousin was gay because I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: because we never really brought them into the world. We
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: never brought accepted their values, accepted their lifestyle because we
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: were told that they were different and they and they
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: walked on from there. Now with a show like this,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: you're able to see and accept a different lifestyle and
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: kind of understand it. Understanding and I'm not saying you
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: have to go there and participate, but at least understand it.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: With these types of shows that you engaged in, what
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: does your biggest walk away from P Valley? I mean,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I one of my that there is nothing better than authenticity, Yes, sir,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: there's nothing better than authenticity. And in order to tell
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: the story, you have to um in my in my opinion, uh,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: do whatever you need to do on behalf with care,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: and um, and there's also something very important, you know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: when it comes to authenticity, when it comes to the
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: black community, when it comes the kind of storytelling that
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: resonates with the black community. Because the thing is, we've
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: seen it. We've seen ourselves on screens for a long time. Yes,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: you know who's who's telling the story, and the black
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: bodies and the story are conns of people. And we
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: are fortunate enough to be inside of a world created
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: a Victorian producers and the're writting the writer's room that's
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: you know, unparalleled where they are infusing such humanity and
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: life in every person in this story. So all of
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: the characters, you know, everybody is fully realized with history
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: and with you know, with but nobody is perfect but
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: fully realized. No one's perfect. Everyone's making mistakes, everyone's trying
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: to invest. And that is the kind of story that,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: uh is. It's so essential and so attractive to me,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: you know, as an actor, Um, there is something about
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  Speaker 1: I mean, my dad was a pastor, right, um, and
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I feel very I feel very uh called into storytelling.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: This is my way of serving, this is my way
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  Speaker 1: of service characters, um. And I endeavor to use my
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: instrument to serve and everywhere that I can. Well, congratulations man,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: you you you uh. As soon as I saw that episode,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I asked if I could get you on the show.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: And I feel blessed that we're having this honest interview
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: because my my goal in my life is to be
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: able to be a messenger, you know, and we all
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: have our roles, and to be able to have an
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: honest conversation, to have a safe place where people and
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: actors can commonly not being being ambushed by silly questions
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: or embarrassing the opportunity this about. Uh. You guys are
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: all new stars. You guys are people who would moving
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: narratives that need to be told told. But I want
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: to congratulate you for back to back grade series here
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: man Zoe was fantastic. I enjoyed you this show. This
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: show here was even more fantastic p Valley because of
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the fact that it felt like home. It felt like
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: finally I'm able to see my story, tell my story,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: participate my story, and brag about it. I remember when
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I was way back, when I was I'm going back
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: some years when Miami Advice was on way back in
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: six and I used to come to work when I
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: was at IBM and tell you gotta watch Miami Life.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Whoa you gotta watch Miami brother, That's what I'm doing
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: with P Valley. I'm telling everybody. I'm screaming, you gotta
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: watch Sunday Night. You're not doing anything. You gotta turning
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: on stars. You gotta watch P Valley. The acting is fantastic,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: The authenticity is on is beyond reproach. It's amazing what
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: y'all are doing. And I'm excited and we here's a
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: beauty of this interview. Never even talked about the dancing.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: That's how great this show is, brother, that I can
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: sit up here and talk to you the entire time
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: and we never go there. Because this show has a
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: great A story, B story, C story, D story. It
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: can only get there through great writing on P. Valley
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: and great acting. And my brother, you are a great actor.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on Money Make Conversation Masterclass when
• 27:20
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• 27:21
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• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I'm ras Sean McDonald. I am your host