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Tartan Takeover: Scotland IS the Party! · Football is Life

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From North London lights to the mercy rain, to
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sky blue nights when the champions reign. Three
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voices arise when the whistle blows. Same beautiful
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game, different colors we chose. Football is
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life. We're losing on you all night. From the
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terrace to the mic, football is life. Hey folks,
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welcome to our latest episode of Football is
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Life. Here we are, we're back, it's the World
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Cup, we're in the middle of it all, and it's
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been a start, right? It's been fun. Are we enjoying
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it so far, boys? I mean, look, Mike, better for
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you time -wise, obviously harder for us to see
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all the games, waking up in the morning, seeing
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a bunch of scores, a bunch of goals, watching
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highlights for us. Checking our social feed to
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see what's going on, yeah. Yeah, yeah. How's
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it been in North Carolina? I mean, listen, I
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do have to mention, congratulations to the Carolina
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Hurricanes. Yes, yes. Not a hockey podcast, but
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yes, well done. Yeah, a new guy at my work, Jesse
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Riggleman, he loves near you, Mike. He's a big
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Canes fan, season ticket holder. So he's very,
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very happy. Buzzing, yep. Parade is tomorrow.
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Yeah, oh, there you go. That's it. Get the pretz,
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there we go. We'll probably... I'm sure you'll
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be out and about. What do you think, Mike? How's
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it been where you are? I know you don't have
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games there, but is there any noticeable excitement
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or do you feel not particularly in North Carolina?
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Actually, North Carolina is one of the relative
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hot spots for football. We've got a huge club
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development system, one of the biggest in the
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country. And we have a women's professional team
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that's... perennially dominant so it is a big
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hot spot um you know i i'm plugged into it because
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my son played and and all that so there's a lot
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of buzz and uh and so it's it's uh it's definitely
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um exciting we had some uh some friendlies going
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on before the uh the tournament kicked off but
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yeah no uh no tournament games here but definitely
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a buzz now that the world cup is sort of the
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feature story and you know the nba is over the
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nhl is over we got you know the uh the u .s open
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is going on this weekend for father's day but
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other than that rory mackleroy is doing okay
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had a decent start go on rory son go on yeah
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So it's definitely taking over media all over
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the place, and there's absolutely a buzz about
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it. I'm sure we'll come to it. One of the biggest
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buzzes is just the buzz. Hey, top of our group,
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baby. I mean, Balogun was like, where did that
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come from? You know, Arsenal legend, Balogun.
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Yeah. So, but I'm sure that's generally, I've
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seen that that feels regenerating, but there
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seems to be a bit of negativity. And the fans
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that, like the atmosphere that was provided for
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that first game and the result that came from
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it has really been a catalyst. Okay, nice. Well,
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listen, I mean, take that, hold my beer. Scotland
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fans in Boston. Listen, to be honest, you may
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as well just give us the World Cup now because
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we deserve it. Just for the off -field antics
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alone. I'm here for a U .S.-Scotland final. Let's
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do it. Dude, we'd smoke you. John McGinn. I think
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the United States has adopted them as their second
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team, for sure. I just love, obviously, as you
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know, Mike, you're from Boston. I've spent a
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lot of time in Boston. I love the city dearly.
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I love, I fucking love Duncan. So, you know,
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I was literally like, you know, kind of adopted
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Bostonian. I've got all my Boston sports team
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paraphernalia. Thanks to you, Mike. But yeah,
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I mean, look. it's one of those moments being
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so proud to be Scottish. You just know, you know,
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the fans of tartan army are just, there is no
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fan base. I don't think in the world that even
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comes remotely close. And you know, I love though
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about like, but like a lot of the Bostonians,
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cause you're not overly exposed. It is funny.
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Cause like Irish people just are famously around
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the world because of the connections. Right.
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So you're talking about Patty's day, all these
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pubs, like we're doing three or four times the
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business than we did on St. Patty's weekend.
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And it's like, there's like, we haven't ever
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seen people. that just party consume drink but
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also in a way that it's all fun it's all good
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natured like people are actually saying boston
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has never been so alive and violent it's the
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euphoria my son can confirm like he lives there
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right now and it is absolute chaos in a great
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way and let's not lose sight of the fact that
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boston which has a huge irish base right like
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i mean famous for drinking yeah and and scotland
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has consumed every ounce of beer that's in the
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city. Like, that's, like, hats off. Well done.
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I know. Bravo, lads. Bravo. Well played. Tartan
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Army. Put in all the other fans. I mean, listen.
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Did you see the light -up of Gillette Stadium
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with the tartan coloring? It was cool. Listen,
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Florida -Scotland was at 125 decibels, broke
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a record. They took over Fenway Park. I loved
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it. You know what, Scotland fans, I thought it
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was impossible. I've been to Fenway, right? We've
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been to Fenway, Mike, together. Yeah. I thought
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it's impossible to make this game fun. The Tartan
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Army show up and go, we'll show you how to do
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it, guys. And they made a baseball game electric.
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Electric. Yeah. So, I mean, I love just seeing,
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I mean, if anyone's been to Boston, you get these,
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you know, like these hardened Bostonians. And,
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you know, they're a certain breed in America,
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right? But it's the act. Got to pack the car
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in the water. But I love hearing them, like,
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you know, the way they screed that they do that
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kind of like you could do the accent, Mike, but
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they are and the way they're speaking so wonderfully
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about the Scottish fans. And these are like your
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hard and true Bostonian custodians of the city.
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And they're just like, we've never met people
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like this. We just haven't met people. So listen,
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best thing that's happened for Scottish tourism
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in a long time. We should hopefully get a reciprocal,
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a big, you know, exodus from Massachusetts over
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to Scotland. To come back over here, we'll show
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you the hospitality here too, folks. But yeah,
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if only World Cups were won on being the best
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fans. But we did win our first game. We did.
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It was ugly. It was ugly. But we won it against
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Haiti. We won it 1 -0. It was super John McGinn.
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We got McGinn. Super John McGinn. It wasn't pretty
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at all. It was nerve -wracking at the end. But
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in a way, you know, again, I try and stay positive
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in these things. I don't love the manager. I
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don't love their approach. I don't love the mindset
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we go into these games. We could beat them 2
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-3 -4 -0 if we really, really approach the game
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in the right way. But I understand it's the occasion
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sometimes, the nerves. And look, we go into tonight's
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game against Morocco needing a point from the
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next two games to qualify, which is huge. Morocco
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are not, you know, they're a good team. I don't
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think they're a tier one up there with the Francis
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of the world. But they're certainly the next
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tier down from that. So that will be a test tonight.
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So we need some mammoth performances. Foxborough
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Stadium, we're coming again. Flower of Scotland.
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It's going to be absolutely fantastic. So I cannot
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wait for that tonight. So, yeah, got a little
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watch party here. So that's going to be fun.
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Nice. Waza, what do I have for you, mate? You've
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been quiet. So tell us, I mean, what's your take?
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So obviously I'm just going to wax lyrical about
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Scotland and how wonderful we are. So I'm going
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to enjoy it while it's good because it could
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go south quickly. But yeah, what about you, Waza?
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What's your take on the tournament so far? It's
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been, it's strange. It's been equal parts predictable,
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equal parts unpredictable, right? Like, for example,
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we did not expect, like no one would have walked
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into this entire tournament and said, you know
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what? Iran versus New Zealand. it's going to
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be a banger. Like, no one thought that for one
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second. And also, just a quick shout out to the
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Iranian football players. Like, the quality of
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the lids and the beards, like, really, really
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strong. Like, honestly, there's a reason that
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the American women are really worried about them
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coming into the country, because they'll just
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be swimming. So, I feel like we have had some
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surprises, but we've also not. Like, for example,
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Netherlands completely fumbling the bag. Like,
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they are just, honestly, they are such chokers.
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I can't. Is it a mentality thing at this point?
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Is it a tactics thing at this point? Like, I
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don't understand, like, how a team that is pretty
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stacked everywhere apart from up front does this
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badly. They played Japan, right? They played
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Japan. Japan were brilliant. Japan are brilliant.
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Japan are. That's my point. I thought they were
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a dark horse. They're dark horses. They're brilliant.
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I saw them play in Scotland. I saw them play
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against England before the World Cup. I don't
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think they're going to go out there. I don't
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have them as a dark horse because I think it's
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pretty clear they're good. I expect them to get
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to the quarterfinals. That's my expectation.
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I think, you know, if they got deeper than that,
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that would be like, wow. But they just work their
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socks off. And they do have some quality. They
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absolutely do have quality, but it's the work
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rate they're so hard to play against. And they
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play some good football, I'll tell you that.
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But yes, but no, no, I mean, Holland looked,
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you know, defensively looked a little bit, like,
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yeah, a little bit shaky. yes what do we think
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I mean by the way France when they turned it
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on in the second half when they decided to play
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oh la la oh you know what you know what you know
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what really hurts me Senegal should have been
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1 -0 up at least at least Senegal were brilliant
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in the first half brilliant in the first half
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but they just couldn't and then you know a France
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you know just get you kind of go you just kind
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of feel like if you're not they just have gears
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like it's almost like they're just saving it
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so yeah that's that's pretty terrifying. Yeah.
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We also had this, I don't know if you've heard
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of this. We guys called Lionel Messi doing it.
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Yeah. Just, just, just doing messy things with
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hat tricks. I mean, he's just look again. Again,
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everyone, anyone who says that Ronaldo is, I
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was about to say it, Mike, Mike, I understand
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football. Exactly. I just lose respect for them.
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I had this debate last week with my best mates,
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son. I'm just trying to explain to him, but he
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just doesn't get it. I'm just like, yeah. It's
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not even... Yeah, and you ask anyone who's played
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against the two of them. You can stop Cristiano.
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I just... I don't know how you... He's so...
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At his age, doing what he's doing. I've seen
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him in his prime. I've never seen a player glide
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over the grass with complete control of the ball.
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He looks like an ice skater. Yeah, he's mad.
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So, I mean, Argentina looked good. France looked
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good. Spain had a bit of a wobble, right? They
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did. England looked terrible first half defensively.
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And then played 20 minutes in the second half
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of just like, wow. Just go and attack and just
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believe. So you can show it and it shows what
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talent they have. Look again, a pretty average
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Croatia team, very aging Croatia team. So again,
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I wouldn't get too carried away. England's defensive
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concerns for me are huge. That was my thing before
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the tournament. I just don't think defense, I
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don't think Rhys James is a, everyone talks about
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Trent. I'm like, what sort of defender do you
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think Rhys James? I just don't think he's a very
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good defender. I don't think Nico O 'Reilly is
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a particularly good defender. Again. That's not
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really the reason you play them, right? They're
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so good on the ball. They're attacking wingbacks.
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They're so good on the ball. Like, Nico Reilly,
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he's great, but he's a midfielder. I think James
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is better in midfield. He's better in centre
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midfield than he is at right back. So I do think
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it'll be interesting. Maybe that's why you might
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see your Jed Spences and stuff play more against,
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like, if they get to the knockouts in the big
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games, you might see some changes there because
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they do look to defend. John Stones is just,
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I don't know why they took him because he's...
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Basically, they're injured all year. It's weird.
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Yeah, a bit of a bizarre one. And I'm not totally
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convinced by Konsa and Gehi. I don't think that
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it's... And then little T -Rex arms couldn't
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get his hand up to get the ball. Brilliant. I
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loved it. So, yeah. But, I mean, England... I
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mean, look, Kane looks... He looks like a man
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on a mission. He's looking good. So they look
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good. But Spain, a little bit of a wobble. I
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mean, a huge shock. Probably the biggest shock
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so far. Cape Verde, the goalkeeper. What a story
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for him. I think they're flying his mum out now.
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I read somewhere. Again, who knows what's real
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and what's fake nowadays. But what a day for
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them. They obviously got a point there. Portugal
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looked awful. Ronaldo was a problem. I've said
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this before. Two years now, I'm like that. If
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he wants to win a World Cup with Portugal, he's
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got to be a squad player and he's got to come
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off. And come on in moments. Again, if you're
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chasing a goal and you throw an extra attacker,
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I think they can afford him in those moments,
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but they can't afford him. And he's not... You're
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playing with 10 if you're playing with him. Yeah.
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Well, the thing is, it affects Bruno Fernandes
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so much, I think. And they've got the boy, Gonzalo
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Ramos, who plays for PSG. He just has to start.
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He has to start. I think the bigger problem for
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Portugal is the centre -half. Diaz is out and
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they don't really have a lot of cover. I just
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don't see... And again, I go back to... I look
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at teams... You cannot win a World Cup without
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a good defence. That's what I always look at.
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I look at the teams that I think... I think Spain's
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defence is decent. I think France's defence is
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good. I think they could both. I think Argentina's
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defence is good again. Romero's a different player
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for them. They've also got good goalkeepers.
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You've got to look at the whole thing. I don't
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think England's good enough. I don't think Germany's
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defence is good enough. So yeah, we'll see what
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happens. But it's certainly been an interesting...
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Yeah, we're past the first round of fixtures
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now. Yes, we're in game week or match day two
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now. Match day two. Yeah. So, yes, big game Scotland
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-Morocco tonight. That's the big one. That will
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be... Good day in Australia. Australia keeping
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receipts. By the way, I was talking to my mate
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Murray at work. He's out in Sydney. I said this
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to him. I said, again, Australia always overperforms.
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I can't remember a World Cup where they haven't
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overperformed, but they always outperform expectation.
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I actually think that game against the States
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could be a brilliant game. It's going to be too
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physical. It's going to be a physical, physical
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battle. I think Australia win that. I genuinely
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mean, USA are favorites and they should be, but
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it wouldn't be a shock. Australia, they do. outperform
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at World Cups. There's a togetherness about them.
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And look, we'll see what happens. We'll see what
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happens. I think there's some great games now.
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And I think, you know, we're starting to get
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into like some of the games, you know, again,
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some of the teams you've been looking, there
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is a little bit of dilution and it's like, you
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know, you're going to see that at this World
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Cup. You're going to see way more goals because
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of the dilution of the, the difference, the gulf
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and quality between certain teams. So you are
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going to see these, like the Germany result,
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like Curacao. That's going to happen to teams
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a lot. Like Canada hanging six on a nine -man
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Qatar. Yeah, I mean, you're just going, you're
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Jonathan David. So honestly, as I said, the top
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goal scorer market is really tough because I
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said it. you're going to be, it's a group stages,
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but I think there's a lot of guys and you're
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seeing it. It was a lot of people now sitting
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in that market, which is quite good because often
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like sometimes like, you know, you get a striker
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like close, you score six in the first two games
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and you kind of knew he was going to win it.
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Whereas this actually makes it a bit of a thing.
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So you've got obviously Messi sitting in three
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goals. Jonathan David got a hat trick last night.
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You've got a host, you've got Haaland on too.
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You've got Mbappe on too. You've got Kane on
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too, right? And then you've got some other folks
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that are there as well. Luis Diaz got a goal
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for Colombia. So yeah, I think it's really interesting.
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interesting mark at that one you can still go
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and find value um and have a bit of fun um playing
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with that so um I know you wanted to talk a little
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bit about some of the the rule changes the big
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one I think look I think the throw -ins I think
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that all that's all seemed to work actually quite
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well although like players like Robertson he's
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clever he was like they realize it's when they
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pick the ball up so just take longer to pick
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the ball up um but um We did see a corner given
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for the team not taking a goal kick quickly enough,
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but it's more these hydration breaks that are
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just awful. It's horrendous. It's so bad, isn't
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it? And it's so unnecessary. Look, there are
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certain games where it's obvious you need to
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do it because it's like... A billion degrees
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up. Yes, correct. But in the Dallas Cowboys stadium
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that's got air conditioning... the roof's closed
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what are you doing guys like yes yeah the argument
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was it's we just need to do it for all of them
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so that it's fair for everybody and it's it's
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and it's fair for the advertisers so they get
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all the yeah well yeah yes world cup brought
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to you by commercials yes and so this is the
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thing like i can't cast my mind back far enough
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but when they did the world cup in brazil did
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they have as many drinks breaks during the games
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they might have i'm not entirely sure I don't
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think that they did it for every match. I think
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that's the big talking point of regardless of
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climate or whether you're undercover or not.
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Every match has them now, which I don't think
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was the case before. But the thing is, it's like
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this is what I find. Don't get me wrong. I find
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it interesting from a tactical perspective of
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like now you're effectively seeing a game where
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it's split into four quarters rather than two
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halves. And you're seeing the net. being that
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most of the better teams are predictably winning
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their games because they have a manager that
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is more adaptable. I'm surprised that Brazil
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didn't, but I can also see why, because the thing
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is that Ancelotti isn't really a tactics guy.
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He's more of a let me throw the best people for
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those roles on, and then they can kind of figure
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this out. But you saw it with Curaçao. Curaçao
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were actually doing pretty well against Germany.
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Yeah, they were down, but then they got absolutely
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tombed the second the drinks break happened.
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The momentum shifted completely. And it's just
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sad for teams that don't necessarily have the
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depth to be able to adapt to the changes as quickly
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as possible. That's the thing that's going to
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irritate me this World Cup, I'm certain. Yeah,
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it's interesting in one respect, but I think
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it's just a bit cruel in another. Yeah, I think
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it's... Do you know what it's for me? People
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talk about advantages. It just breaks the game
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up. Momentum is a huge thing in football. And
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it's just like a... It makes you realize how
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bad adding more breaks in at football is. The
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whole point is that it's the flow of the game.
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Again, the thing is that I know we've all been
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complaining about the ball not being in play
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enough, right? And that's just like interrupt.
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The people do that to interrupt the flow of the
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game. This is like, it's a micro example of it.
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And now we just introduced this man and they
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don't even stop the clock and it gets added.
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And I'm just like, yeah, you know, that added
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time is going to start at three minutes. Yeah.
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And, and it's just, but it's just that stupid,
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but also it's just the whole premise of it is
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just silly. It's like, look, if there's a situation
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where the temperature and it's, it will be clear
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that an extra drinks rate is required. The other
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thing I would say is also look, I'm not going
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to. again not to boo but guys they're professional
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athletes if that's my job like you're hydrated
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before like they take all the nutrition out so
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they are they are and it's it's 45 minutes guys
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right you're not gonna like i'm i am sorry like
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there's a little bit of like my tiny via limby
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now i'm like guys i don't really think it's even
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necessary at all honestly um i really don't because
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look this if it goes out for a corner you can
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just somebody can chuck on a water bottle that
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happens all the time the goalies water bottle
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take a quick drink like you know Again, look,
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if they're just doing it because they're trying
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to get, let's just tell it's an advertisement
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thing. It is FIFA and advertising. Let's just
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stop this whole player welfare and all this nonsense.
19:40
I'm like, guys, look, you have got one of the
19:43
best jobs in the world. It's a privilege to do
19:45
what you do. You're professional athletes. You
19:49
know what the temperature is going to be. You
19:50
take on hydration. Like, you know, I played in
19:51
extreme heat before. I mean, it's not difficult.
19:56
Like, I mean, it's stupid. It's so stupid. But
19:59
the thing is, you literally have a football league
20:02
in Mexico and Brazil and literally everywhere
20:05
else. And what do they do to counter this? They
20:07
don't have drinks breaks. They just change the
20:09
tactics. They don't have to play like gung -ho,
20:12
British Premier League, constant non -stop pressing
20:15
football. Yeah, you're right. It's like when
20:18
the pitch is frosty or icy or it's a waterlogged
20:21
pitch that you can't play the ball on the deck.
20:23
The ball's not. You need to adapt to the conditions.
20:26
Look, if it's hot, yeah, you might not be able
20:28
to get as humid. You're not going to have maybe
20:29
as much running in you. It is what it is. I just
20:32
hate the whole player welfare nonsense. Let's
20:36
just stop being silly. I'd rather them increase
20:37
the number of subs that they do. I'd rather them
20:40
increase the number of subs that they do and
20:42
do it at halftime so you can be like, right,
20:43
for 45 minutes. you lot are going to go out and
20:46
get completely gassed and then we're going to
20:48
take you off. So you can just recover and it's
20:50
okay. They're not playing in Pakistan. It's not
20:54
44 degree heat. Like it is still manageable.
20:57
Stop it. Grow up. Just put us in charge of guys,
21:00
right? Just put me, how many good ideas have
21:02
we had this? Like we just have better ideas.
21:03
Like just, just hit us up, like let us know.
21:05
Right. But the only thing, the only reason that
21:07
I wanted to mention it is also because like,
21:08
I swear, like. What I just really, really hope
21:12
isn't a lesson that comes out of this World Cup
21:14
is that for the Premier League, they go, you
21:16
know what? Let's install drinks breaks because
21:19
sometimes they look at World Cups and think,
21:21
oh, this really worked quite well. Like added
21:24
time four years ago. Exactly. Like I want them
21:26
to not. look at this as like, oh, this is really
21:29
good. I want them to look at the game rather
21:32
than the revenue because this is obviously fantastic
21:34
for the revenue because they're going to get
21:36
ad breaks. Almost the biggest travesty is that
21:39
we don't get to see an ad break for a mole cream
21:42
on the lower left side of your back that will
21:44
make you shit blood for weeks. At least give
21:48
us that. Let us enjoy it. But I just really don't
21:51
want us to adopt this in the Premier League or
21:53
else that's going to kill the game. You know
21:57
what else will kill the game? It's bringing Alexi
21:59
Lalas to everybody. Oh, my God. That's the best
22:04
performance I've ever seen by a sports team ever,
22:06
ever. Oh, my God. It was amazing. They were like,
22:10
you just saw Zlatan. I just like hats off to
22:13
Zlatan and Thierry Henry for just dressing him
22:18
down every time he opens his mouth because he
22:21
is the biggest tosser on the planet. He's just
22:24
a dildo. He's just a dildo. Like just an absolute
22:27
dildo. I'm not a, yeah, but look, I mean, look,
22:30
it does, it does create conversation. Like you
22:32
say, that's, that's, it'll be something for Fox.
22:35
Yeah. A hundred percent, a hundred percent clickbait.
22:39
Okay. Well, what I want to do is I want to talk
22:40
a little bit. Look, we've had, we've seen every
22:42
team once or maybe highlights and stuff like
22:44
that. So like, yeah, we talked before, like any,
22:47
obviously I'm, you know, I, I'm still not. high
22:50
on Germany even though they beat Curaçao 7 -1
22:52
it's not really a big achievement so I've not
22:56
for example I've not changed my opinion there
22:58
but maybe I would have maybe I so is there anything
23:00
you've seen now where you go thinking about what
23:02
you thought before the tournament in terms of
23:03
the teams where you look at going hmm actually
23:06
that team look better than I thought or I thought
23:10
that team might be good but they're not actually
23:12
like Portugal for one for me A lot of people
23:15
were quite high on them. And I think now it's
23:17
been quite sobering in that. It's one game, right?
23:20
Argentina lost their first game, won the World
23:21
Cup last time out. So let's not forget that.
23:24
But we like to overreact. So what's been your
23:27
hot takes from round one of the fixtures so far
23:30
in terms of the teams to watch and the ones maybe
23:32
you think might let everyone down? I don't think
23:40
England get... They'll get out of the groups,
23:43
but I don't think they'll go beyond that. You
23:47
think they get an early knockout exit? Okay,
23:49
that's a hot take. I like that. So the thing
23:51
is, don't get me wrong, I like the fact that
23:53
they actually scored goals and they didn't Gareth
23:55
Southgate 1 -0 the life out of that game against
23:57
Croatia, because usually Croatia's a bit of a
23:59
bogey team for them. They usually sit back, they
24:02
let moderates tire themselves out. Great. Boring.
24:06
But they are also very defensively frail. Like
24:10
they are not a defensive powerhouse. So I see
24:13
them conceding a fair bit and I don't know if
24:16
their attack will compensate. Okay. I like that.
24:20
I honestly don't disagree with that at all. I
24:23
think that's a really good take. Mike, what do
24:26
you, have you got any hot takes on this? I don't
24:29
know if it's a hot take, but just a pleasant
24:31
surprise with the first U .S. result. So just
24:35
the way that that all played out and scoring
24:38
the four goals was huge for that team. A little
24:42
bit of a concern with the Pulisic injury, and
24:47
hopefully he's going to be all right. But, you
24:50
know, big game this afternoon against Australia,
24:52
but just... The way they showed up was, you know,
24:56
I said that they were underwhelming a week ago,
24:59
and that would, you know, the way they showed
25:02
up was not necessarily underwhelming. So well
25:04
done to the U .S. squad for what they did. And,
25:08
you know, the fact that Norway is on goal differential
25:13
sitting on top of that group, I'm just going
25:16
to say it. You said that they wouldn't get out
25:19
of the group. I don't know that that's the case.
25:21
I think they would. I said they would. No, no,
25:24
no. Roscoe, yeah. And they've done nothing to
25:28
change my mind. They were not great in that game.
25:31
They weren't great in that game. They weren't
25:34
great. I'm pleasantly surprised by Canada. Yeah,
25:39
yeah. On the US, Mike, I remember it was the
25:44
last time I saw them. At the last tournament,
25:48
I was like, well, they're a young team, I thought.
25:49
I was like, they could be scary in four years.
25:53
That didn't seem to materialize. Well, and they're
25:56
young in places. Like, our captain is 100. I
26:00
know he is, yeah, he's always injured. But no,
26:02
but I think with Paul, I did read an article,
26:04
he was talking about, like, the... You've talked
26:06
about the fact that in the US system, there's
26:08
no relegation. There's all these mindset things.
26:12
And he was like, it's taken so long to just almost
26:15
bleed this out of people. So you do wonder that
26:19
maybe this could be the start of something for
26:21
this US team in terms of look. Because they should
26:23
look. I think the challenge they have, the MLS
26:25
is not a good caliber league. That's the biggest
26:27
challenge they have. But the thing is, if you
26:29
look at that team, very few of them play in the
26:31
MLS. They're all playing internationally. When
26:34
you look at how Germany built their teams over
26:37
the years, right. And saying, no, well, you're
26:38
going to live in this play in this country and
26:40
we're going to, you know, build from within.
26:42
And that clearly worked for a while. So they
26:45
don't get as much time together because they're
26:47
scattered all over the world, but you know, they're
26:49
not playing in the MLS to develop. But even becoming
26:53
an American, like a professional footballer in
26:55
America is just too expensive. Like you basically
26:57
have to buy your way into an academy. And the
27:00
fact that you can't even get to these academies
27:03
very easily in a lot of these cities, it's just
27:05
you're basically any professional American, like
27:08
anyone who's playing football for the United
27:10
States likely has to come from a wealthy background,
27:13
which means that your pool is very limited. Yeah.
27:17
So I just don't see, until they start breaking
27:21
that down and then effectively do an academy
27:23
system like England doesn't really establish
27:25
it, I just don't see them being able to actually
27:27
compete properly. We will see. So my kind of
27:33
take so far are, I'll stick my assertion, Norway
27:37
will lose to Senegal and France and will struggle
27:40
to get the group. I mean, they might scrape out
27:42
third place. We'll see. I don't think three points,
27:45
it might not be enough. But they scored four
27:47
goals against Iraq, which gives them a chance.
27:49
Although I thought they were quite poor against
27:51
Iraq, actually. That game was more even than
27:53
I thought it would be. So I still think they've
27:55
got no hope of doing anything meaningful in the
27:58
tournament. So it's not changed on that. Senegal,
28:03
the team that I... Because I was flip -flopping
28:06
between them and Morocco. I was like, I know
28:07
they're both the AFCON finalists and it was a
28:09
bit of a chaotic final and that's still at some
28:12
court somewhere. But I think Senegal, I really
28:16
do think they're like, again, they went against
28:18
France and like you said, they could have been,
28:20
I know France, you can argue, didn't play great,
28:22
but they were, that was a very competitive and
28:25
they made life really difficult. They worked
28:27
their socks off. I think also I look at teams
28:29
that can deal with conditions in terms of heat.
28:32
I think there's just little advantages if you
28:35
look at history, like it's not that easy to come
28:37
over to the Americas and win. It isn't easy.
28:41
I know Spain have done it, but it's not easy.
28:43
So I do think Senegal will be, and look, it's
28:46
a really tough group, right? Obviously they lost
28:48
to France. They're going to have to beat Norway,
28:51
right? But I do think they're better than Norway.
28:53
Obviously Norway have, you know, some high caliber
28:57
players that could, you know, but I think Senegal
28:59
are a better team. So I do think that they've
29:01
been a nice, pleasant, you know, a pleasant surprise,
29:04
I think. Teams that I'm, again, that I'm a little
29:07
bit, I would say. I think you mentioned England.
29:10
Yeah, I did think, I thought Holland might be
29:13
a bit better than they were. Again, it's game
29:14
one because their form was good coming in. So,
29:17
in Spain, the obvious ones. But see, to be honest,
29:20
I actually think, like, Brazil looked awful.
29:27
I thought Brazil, and the selection of playing
29:31
Lucas Paquita and Casemiro, I couldn't believe,
29:33
I had to look twice and seeing what they had
29:36
on the bench, I was like, Like, you know, look,
29:38
Casemiro's had a good season at Man United, but
29:40
he's like, that Morocco team or this team, almost
29:44
like they're in their prime a lot. They've just
29:47
got a lot of players. They're very athletic.
29:52
Lucas Pakata is a luxury player. I don't think
29:54
he's been particularly good. I think I was so
29:57
surprised that he played them, but I wasn't shocked
30:00
because you look at, I mean, like Marquinhos
30:01
and Gabriel, you go, wow, that should be like.
30:04
But they just got the goal. They got completely...
30:07
It was like schoolboy stuff. It was really poor.
30:11
I just think Brazil, as much as Scotland... With
30:14
Morocco, we haven't been lucky in terms of...
30:16
That's probably as bad a draw as you could get
30:18
for a pot two team. But I would certainly say
30:21
for pot one, Brazil or not... like a top tier
30:25
pot one team. Now look, again, they've got Vinicius
30:27
Junior, you saw what he did. So obviously they
30:29
have these players that will have, like it's,
30:30
Igor Thiago was, looked like he couldn't kick
30:33
a football. He was awful against Morocco. Right.
30:36
He was so bad. The right back boy was awful.
30:39
I don't know who he is. Like, I just looking
30:41
at it going, and they just, there was, there's
30:42
a lack of cohesivity. You can see it when you
30:44
know, when you see it, you go, they're a team
30:46
that is not like, Bruno Guimaraes is a really,
30:48
really good player, right? They've got some really
30:50
good, but there's not a togetherness there. which
30:53
I do think Neymar could be a factor in that.
30:55
I think he does have that. He loves playing for
30:57
Brazil. He's got that kind of, you know, certain
30:59
players, just it means more. I wonder, so I'm
31:02
kind of hoping he doesn't play in the group stages,
31:03
but it'll be interesting to see how they do against
31:06
Haiti, because you'd expect Brazil should go
31:08
and put Hang 3, 4, 5 on Haiti, right? It'll be
31:11
interesting. I'll be watching that game as well,
31:14
because obviously for reasons, obvious reasons,
31:16
because Scotland play Brazil and Miami next week.
31:18
But they're... I've said this and people are
31:22
saying it's Brazil, we're going to get pumped.
31:23
I said, I don't think Brazil are that good. They're
31:25
not Brazil of old. I actually think they're worse
31:27
than I realized. They are. I mean, Morocco were,
31:31
I mean, the second half, look, to your point,
31:34
Angelo is obviously like, in terms of experience,
31:37
he kind of, you know, managed the game through
31:40
that and he tweaked things and he made, you know,
31:41
but I mean, they were so open. Morocco, they
31:44
could just play through them at will. I'm, yeah,
31:47
I think, and I said this before the tournament,
31:49
I was like, why are Brazil the same odds or sometimes
31:50
shorter than Argentina? I was like, why? It doesn't
31:53
make any sense to me. Like, you know, I just
31:55
think Argentina are like a level above them at
31:58
the moment, at this point in time, right? So,
32:01
yeah, I think Brazil, and maybe this is part
32:03
of me just being optimistic, I'm hoping this
32:05
comes true because obviously it's good for Scotland
32:07
if that is the fact. You know, so they're the
32:10
ones that I think people might have put bets
32:12
on and had high hopes for because of the Ancelotti
32:14
factor. I'm going, you know again you look on
32:17
paper and go they could be scary but you watch
32:19
them play and you're like this is this is the
32:22
thing about a bunch of individuals right compared
32:24
to a cohesive unit and they've always like i
32:28
mean look how many you know world cups have won
32:30
but still there's always been one or two flashy
32:35
players on that team and it's just like can those
32:38
one or two flashy players bring the rest of the
32:40
group together or not and i don't think with
32:43
this set that that's the case i agree You've
32:46
got Rafinha and Vinicius and you're going, you're
32:50
thinking, Jesus, that's scary. But it just, it
32:52
just doesn't. Yeah. The centre midfield is a
32:55
huge problem. It's a huge problem. The problem
32:58
is, the problem is I just don't think that Ancelotti
33:01
is an international football manager. Right.
33:04
I just, I just don't think that he's like in
33:06
the sense of like, he is, he's usually what you
33:10
want from an international football manager is
33:12
someone that goes into a team and basically understands.
33:15
I'm not going to get these players for more than
33:17
three, four times a year. I've got to figure
33:19
out what works and try and apply some level of
33:22
structure. But the problem is that Ancelotti
33:25
is the antithesis of structure. I'm not saying
33:27
that he has no tactics, but what I am saying
33:29
is that he tries to not put any structure on
33:32
his teams. That's how his Real Madrid side did
33:36
so well, because he let them just be as creative
33:38
as possible and put the best people on the team
33:39
for the right moments. You can't do that in international
33:44
football. You just don't get the reps in with
33:46
that team to be able to manage it. So I don't
33:50
know. I think Brazil will limp out of the group
33:53
stages, but I don't see them getting much further
33:55
because fundamentally, even England could beat
33:58
them. And that's saying something. Yeah. Well,
34:01
I just want to make a mention of a couple of
34:04
other teams. We obviously have Ecuador were well
34:09
-fancied before the tournament. Not a good start
34:11
for them. I thought that was interesting that
34:17
a lot of people tipped them. They do have Curaçao,
34:19
so you would expect them to get going in that
34:21
game. What was Sweden? I did want to bring them
34:26
up because obviously they are still fine. We
34:28
know this. Mexico, the other team that I wanted
34:30
to bring up. I said Mexico have an advantage
34:33
with a good result against South Korea. That
34:35
was last night, 1 -0. They're qualified, the
34:37
first team to get through. Your host nation,
34:39
the Aztec, maybe one of the most iconic stadiums
34:42
in world football. So, yes, I want to talk about
34:46
Mexico and I want to talk a little bit about
34:47
Sweden because Sweden, Isak looked... like the
34:51
player Liverpool expected they were getting,
34:52
you're like, holy shit, that's the guy we thought
34:54
we signed. Obviously, Jock got involved among
34:57
the goals and assists as well. So there isn't,
34:59
and again, the Swedes, historically, I remember
35:02
my dad, this is an absolutely true story. So
35:05
I remember we saw Henrik Larsson play the World
35:07
Cup. He was very young. And my dad called him
35:09
Daisy Larsson. He nicknamed him Daisy Larsson.
35:11
I can't remember why. He had the long dreadlocks,
35:13
right? And my dad was like, he's a good player.
35:15
This was before he even went to Celtic or anything.
35:17
And it turned out he was right. But I wonder,
35:19
like, Thomas Brolin, those were like, but they
35:21
had, they always had like these. They always
35:22
had two or three really good players, but there
35:24
was, again, cohesiveness about Sweden as a nation
35:28
that seems, again, I think Australia is the same.
35:31
I think these teams that are just like, there
35:32
is that meaning behind it for them, right? That
35:35
I think don't bring them together. So I just
35:38
want to know what you think about those two teams.
35:39
Mexico maybe haven't been flashy good. They've
35:42
kind of ground the results out, but I think that's
35:44
two clean sheets they've had, is that right?
35:46
Yes, two clean sheets. Two clean, so yeah, they
35:49
haven't conceded a goal yet. You know, I mean,
35:52
hard to beat in the Aztec. I mean, that environment
35:55
is just insane. So good. So good. My mate Ben
36:02
said yesterday, he's like, see if Scotland get
36:04
through and get drawn at that stadium. He's like,
36:06
he's just going to sell his house and go. Just
36:09
to experience it. Yeah. It is absolutely electric.
36:14
There's nothing like a state of the art. But
36:17
do you think Mexico or Sweden could be dark horses?
36:19
Because I think they're ones that people don't
36:21
really take, but could they be dark horses? Have
36:23
we seen enough? I'm leaning, I think Sweden could
36:26
be. I'm less bullish on Mexico based on what
36:31
I've seen so far. I would completely agree with
36:33
that. I'm not as convinced by Mexico. I feel
36:35
like they don't, you know, you have teams which
36:39
are, pretty medium, but they are either top -heavy
36:42
or back -heavy or mid -heavy, right? What even
36:45
is Mexico at this point in time? Are they midfield
36:49
-heavy? Are they defence -heavy? I'm not really
36:51
sure. I think they're kind of just very middling
36:53
across the park. Don't get me wrong, they have
36:55
the synergy, but at least with Sweden, they have
36:58
Jokers, they have Isak, they have players in
37:02
positions which are meaningful and are performing
37:04
well in our superstar level. When Raul Jimenez
37:07
is your guiding light, that's not a good sign.
37:14
Yeah. Yeah. What do we think? Mike, do you think
37:17
Sweden's a bit, I mean, they're in a group with
37:19
Holland and Japan. I mean, that should be like
37:21
a crazy group of death for them, but just the
37:24
way the first set of results played out. Well,
37:28
it puts a huge amount of pressure on, on Holland
37:30
to beat them. Yes. But the thing is, do you think
37:34
it was just a case of, look, they just have a
37:36
really potent front two, which they do. Isak
37:38
and Georg are good players against a team like
37:40
Tunisia. So do you think it might be a bit of
37:43
a red herring with Sweden? I think you need to
37:45
see another result to kind of see it play out.
37:48
And, you know, just the way, you know, we talked
37:51
about Japan already, right, and how solid they
37:54
are. And so I think you need to see another result
37:57
before you can make a call. They got the softball
38:00
early. Yeah, and do you know what? The more you
38:02
say that, I actually think you might be right.
38:04
Now I rethink it. Mexico are definitely more
38:07
likely because they've got the home advantage.
38:10
Yes. I think clean sheets, as I mentioned before,
38:13
is important, right? And yet might not be. And
38:16
I always say the same thing, Lachie, that sometimes
38:18
the biggest worry, if your team is brilliant
38:19
at the group stages, it's very, very rarely I
38:22
can remember a team just being brilliant. There's
38:24
a team that... Yeah, usually you figure it out
38:26
in like... Yeah, they figure it out. And then
38:28
you make the pivot. Yeah. So, but I think Mexico
38:31
could go, because again, I think that home advantage
38:33
is going to be huge. And I think you're right.
38:35
You cannot downplay that. That is... It is just
38:38
immense. It's like game over. I think Sweden
39:10
is... Sorry, I just think the Netherlands are
39:13
just a massive mental game. They have the squad
39:16
to be able to get to the quarterfinals, the semifinals.
39:20
They do not have the mentality for it. They are
39:24
some anger their way to the quarters. I just
39:27
don't think they're doing it. I think Sweden
39:29
generally beat them 2 -0. I really don't see
39:32
why they shouldn't. Look, it's going to be...
39:37
The good news was that's a Saturday 6 o 'clock
39:40
game. That's actually a nice time. Pretty good
39:46
time on Saturday for us at 6pm. That's much kinder.
39:50
That's a good game to look forward to. I'm just
39:52
checking the Sunday slate as well to see what
39:54
we've got. Belgium, Iran. Disgusting. Spain,
39:57
Saudi Arabia. I think actually Belgium, Iran.
40:00
Based on how Iran were playing. Iran, I swear
40:03
to God. Out of all the teams I've seen played
40:05
so far, Iran play with probably some of the most
40:09
intensity. They do, but I just think those games
40:12
are just all quite crap. I don't know. It's not
40:16
crap when you see a massive upset. No, you're
40:20
right. There could be some. None of the fixtures
40:22
really. Like Norway, Senegal. yes want to watch
40:24
that game that'll be a good game i go that'll
40:26
be a good that'll be a good game of football
40:28
that's the next one i can see like portugal uzbekistan
40:31
no thanks england ghana england ghana sure i
40:35
don't think england win that i think that's pretty
40:38
good there's at least a bit of genuine jeopardy
40:40
for england that's i mean you you know um so
40:43
yeah i mean i think that's that's my only issue
40:44
i do think there's just so many games on paper
40:46
at this work i look at i'm just like Like, you
40:49
know what I mean? Like, let's say the US -Australia
40:51
game, I actually, I think they're well -matched.
40:54
Today and tomorrow's slates have got some exciting
40:56
stuff. Exactly. They're well -matched. Teams
40:59
you go, it's not easy to call that game. That's
41:03
what I'm looking for. And I think the US, again,
41:05
you know, obviously Morocco are pretty heavy
41:07
favorites, but again, Scotland have got enough
41:09
quality to trouble us. That's a home game for
41:10
Scotland. Are you kidding me? Dude, I got this
41:13
picture. You sent it, Mike, right? You said that
41:17
instead of New England, it's New Scotland. Yeah,
41:20
yeah. I loved that. It was so good. That place
41:26
will be rocking for Scotland. It's going to be
41:31
absolutely wild. I'm so excited for tonight.
41:34
The countdown is at 3 o 'clock now, so eight
41:36
hours to kick off. I think they know they need
41:40
to win this, even if it's like a really awful
41:43
1 -0 win. Who cares? That's all it takes. We'll
41:46
take a nil. Honestly, like... Again, knockout
41:52
football is very different. And it is. And the
41:54
weird thing is that we can get out of the group.
41:57
I think in knockout football, we can be dangerous.
42:00
Remember Wales did it. We can just be a dangerous
42:03
team because we do have a bit of quality. So
42:06
I would love just to be in that knockout phase.
42:10
Even regardless who you get, you go, right, we've
42:11
got a gate. It would just be... it would be immense.
42:14
And I think, you know, the team deserve it. They've
42:16
done, yeah, they've done really well to get this
42:19
far and do what they've done so far. And look,
42:22
I just hope for the tournament, mate, for the
42:23
good of the tournament. You want Scotland in,
42:25
you want the Scotland fans. You know what happens,
42:27
Mike? I said this, what Trump will do, right,
42:30
he'll pay all the referees and go, look, just
42:31
let Scotland win every game. And we're just going
42:34
to send them on a tour of the US. And at the
42:36
end of this, the US economy will just be an all
42:39
-time high. And he'll look fantastic. But yeah,
42:42
we never sold more alcohol ever in all these
42:46
places that we're struggling. And I'm going,
42:47
yeah, we've made record profits. Everyone will
42:50
be happier, right? They'll be like, this is great.
42:52
And that'll be his re -election campaign. I'm
42:55
sure that's exactly what's going to happen. Because
42:57
there's such a love affair between Trump and
42:59
Scotland. He does. He loves Scotland. He loves
43:03
Scotland. And Scotland hates him. Yeah, no, no,
43:06
exactly. We're not a fan of his. But my point
43:08
is... we bring happiness to people out there.
43:11
So I'm like, yeah, look, I'm happy for that to
43:13
happen. We'll take the World Cup home. We'll
43:15
win it. Lovely stuff. Let's go for it. But look,
43:18
we'll see what happens. I'm so excited for tonight.
43:22
Yeah, let's hope that excitement is not short
43:24
-lived because, you know, sometimes that does
43:26
happen. But yeah, hopefully, we've just got to
43:29
start strong tonight. We can't get on the back
43:34
foot early. There'll be moments we'll have to
43:36
suffer, but if we just set up and just... concede
43:39
ground immediately, I think we'll be in all sorts
43:42
of trouble. I want to ask a question to the team.
43:47
Who is going to be the first surprising team
43:49
going home? Surprising team going home? Okay.
43:58
I would say... That's a good question. Let me
44:04
just... I think I'm going to go with your England
44:08
pick, Waza. Okay. I'm going to go Brazil. Wow.
44:15
I know. I know. I'm looking. I'm going – because,
44:18
look, to be – I mean, I could say Belgium. I
44:21
mean, their group, New Zealand, Iran, Egypt.
44:24
I just think Belgium are crap. So I don't think
44:27
it's that shocking, if that makes sense. I feel
44:29
that would be a cop -out for me because I think
44:31
they're crap. I think Spain will be okay. Argentina
44:35
are fine. Colombia, yeah. Why do you think Spain
44:38
will be okay? Spain will be okay because they've
44:40
got too much quality. It's more like they can
44:43
just, they could literally almost change their
44:45
whole team if they wanted to and still be really
44:47
good. And they're in a group. I mean, they're
44:48
in, who's their group? Let me have a look at
44:50
Spain's group. Yeah, Saudi Arabia, Uruguay, Cape
44:53
Verde. I mean, to me, they'll beat Saudi Arabia.
44:56
Spain will up their level. They'll get through
44:59
it. They won't really care who they get. So yeah,
45:02
Spain I think will be fine. But again, you do
45:04
look at a team that maybe does end up finishing
45:06
second or third that maybe shouldn't have. That
45:09
could get you an early exit as well. But I just
45:11
think based on what I think, people would not
45:13
predict Brazil. I think Brazil will get out of
45:16
the group. They'll beat Haiti. I think they will.
45:18
So they'll get out of the group and four points
45:20
will be enough. I just think that they... Again,
45:24
they could get lucky with the draw, but I think
45:25
if they get a team that's remotely good, I think
45:27
they're in all sorts of trouble. So, yeah, I'll
45:30
go Brazil. What about you, Waza? Portugal. I
45:34
just don't see it. I just don't see it. I think
45:37
Roberto Martinez has lived to form. He has done
45:42
exactly what we thought he would, which is play
45:44
Ronaldo and suffer. Yeah. They've got DR Congo,
45:48
Dr Congo. That's what my son calls them. Dr Congo.
45:50
I love it. Uzbekistan. They will not beat Colombia,
45:54
I don't think. No, that's the thing. They might
45:56
beat Uzbekistan. Yeah, they will. They should
45:59
get through, but they should. I think you're
46:01
right. They could be in trouble. They could be
46:02
in trouble. Because the thing is, fundamentally,
46:04
if DR Congo beat Uzbekistan better... then they're
46:09
in trouble then, because it'll be Colombia that
46:12
will go through, almost definitely. I think Portugal
46:16
could go out on something like goal difference.
46:18
Okay, wow. Okay, there we go. Hot takes. Well,
46:21
listen, boys, it was always great to chat. Looking
46:24
forward to the games. One thing is we pivot just
46:27
really quickly. Yeah, of course we're coming.
46:29
The fixtures have dropped. for the Premier League.
46:32
Oh, sorry, yes, sorry, yes, of course. So the
46:34
fixtures have dropped. Apparently Man United's
46:36
first six is the easiest first six fixtures.
46:38
That's what I read this morning. I haven't even
46:41
looked at Liverpool because I'm just in World
46:42
Cup mode. But yeah, are there any juicy firsts?
46:46
Well, so, you know, of course, just like we did
46:49
with, I think it was Brentford when they were
46:52
promoted. We've got a promoted side to start.
46:55
So banana skin right away. Coventry? Yeah, against
46:59
Coventry. It's at home. Coventry gets smacked.
47:02
It should be fine. Who do we have first game?
47:06
You have Newcastle and away. And City have Bournemouth
47:12
at home for the opener. Yuck. Newcastle away.
47:15
That's disgusting. Yuck. Okay. Well, there you
47:18
go. Premier League fixtures there. Check it.
47:19
Liverpool did sign. There's some signing news
47:21
as well. We're a little busy in the travel market.
47:25
We'll maybe try and pepper some of that in if
47:27
these group games get a bit boring. But yes,
47:31
we will see. But listen, thanks to everyone for
47:33
listening. Enjoy the game. I hope everyone should
47:36
be cheering on Scotland. Unless you're Moroccan,
47:38
of course, then you should cheer your own team
47:40
on. Just because of, yeah, the good vibes we
47:43
bring into the tournament. So let's see what
47:45
happens tonight. And we will see you all next
47:47
time. Cheers. Cheers.