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Glynn Turman Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: Glenn Thurman, Hey, how you doing pretty good? My friend?
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Speaker 1: was dominating the movie screens back then, can you summon
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Speaker 1: to your career before we really get into it, because
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Speaker 1: I really want people, you know, we have to say
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Speaker 1: you are a legend. You are a person that inspired
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Speaker 1: your inspiration. Um, you're a uh you have a guy
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Speaker 1: who's sat down and say I can make a career
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Speaker 1: out of this, and you have made a career out
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Speaker 1: of it. Tell us about your your your your take
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Speaker 1: on your career and we know it's not done. First
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Speaker 1: of all, it's not an obituary. So but it is
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Speaker 1: an amazing journey. It is an amazing journey. Well, I'll
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Speaker 1: tell you, first of all, thank you for all the
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Speaker 1: kind words, uh that you used to describe me. And
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Speaker 1: uh the second thing is that all of the listening
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Speaker 1: to you, uh point out those those things uh made
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Speaker 1: me stay to myself. I never thought or tried to
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Speaker 1: achieve any of those accoladies that you just heaped upon me.
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Speaker 1: I was I'm just a young kid from Holland, New
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Speaker 1: York who had an opportunity to to do something and
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Speaker 1: be a part of something that was extraordinary. It's not
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Speaker 1: that I went seeking seeking it. It sort of found me.
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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I was blessed to have people
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Speaker 1: around me who continued to nourish me once they saw
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Speaker 1: that I had a talent. Um. I kind of took
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Speaker 1: things for granted, you know, as most young people will
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Speaker 1: so so uh you know, mentors kept me on the
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Speaker 1: path and uh, you know, from from people in in
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Speaker 1: high school, which is what I went with the high
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Speaker 1: school performing arts. You remember the movie Fame that was yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's that was Actually the year that they're talking about
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Speaker 1: in that movie is the year that uh my graduating year.
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Speaker 1: And uh so I knew a lot of the characters.
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Speaker 1: And there was a wonderful teacher there by the name
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Speaker 1: of Vannette Carroll who uh kept me in school and
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Speaker 1: and focused and uh and guided me and eventually brought
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Speaker 1: me to California. Van Neck Carroll did to form in
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Speaker 1: a play here and here's where I stayed. But to
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Speaker 1: your point, my career has has been really kind of,
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Speaker 1: uh just a blessing, you know, because so much has
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Speaker 1: happened that I never would have thought would have happened.
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Speaker 1: I just looked at myself as a as a blue
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Speaker 1: collar actor. You know, I just get my lunch bucket,
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Speaker 1: I get my lunch bucket, I get a call to
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Speaker 1: go to work, I go to work, I do my
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Speaker 1: job or come home, you know, right, that kind of thing,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But the on the accolades
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Speaker 1: and other things that come with it were like, wow,
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Speaker 1: this comes with with doing what you love, you know.
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Speaker 1: Uh so, and I think that's probably the main ingredient,
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Speaker 1: is that I love doing what I'm doing. I still do. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's that's the impression I've always gotten, you know from
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Speaker 1: every project I've seen. One of my favorites was the
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Speaker 1: House of Lies and uh, you know when you played
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Speaker 1: the sexy grandfather, your father and you know with the
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Speaker 1: young with the young lady. I'm feeling you on that
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Speaker 1: role with Lies with cheat and laz lareens his character
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Speaker 1: man maybe man so many times. Yeah, that was those
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Speaker 1: the French benefits of this, you know, getting the work
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Speaker 1: of opposite beautiful to young ladies like like that, and
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Speaker 1: uh have a great time with friends, you know, Lawrence Tate,
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Speaker 1: you know, and I go way back to uh go
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Speaker 1: back to inkwell absolutely though you know that that that
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Speaker 1: was really interesting when I when I when I talk
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Speaker 1: about this, you know, you're you know, I always always
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Speaker 1: looked at it. I can't I did stand up comment
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Speaker 1: and I'm an excellent writer. Man is great talent and
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Speaker 1: can do it well, thank you, thank you. But but
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Speaker 1: when I when I when I look at that talent
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Speaker 1: like you let's just let's talk about You know, I
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Speaker 1: was joking, because I really did. Whenever I see you,
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Speaker 1: you you make me smile, Glenn, And that's that's something,
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Speaker 1: you know, when I see you make me smile. You know,
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Speaker 1: when I watched the movie Justine, which is running right
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Speaker 1: now on Netflix, you make me smile with your character
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Speaker 1: when you when you when you want to meet with
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Speaker 1: the with the therapists, and then you closed the door,
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Speaker 1: and it was like, is he acting? You know, he's
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Speaker 1: just being normal, because this looks pretty normal to me
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Speaker 1: what he's doing. And and when you get when you
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Speaker 1: get that good, and when you get that good, it
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Speaker 1: seems like these motions are just everyday life motions that
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Speaker 1: it should your function in life. And so that's what
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Speaker 1: happened when I when I when I loved you in
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Speaker 1: the Wire, which was not good, such a such a fascinating,
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Speaker 1: uh cultural story, and he was right there playing a
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Speaker 1: realistic character that I've had sympathy for that I may
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Speaker 1: be mad sometimes, but but but isn't that the role
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Speaker 1: of an actor to protrude to to pull these emotions
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Speaker 1: out of an audience. Yes, it is. That's that's our job,
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Speaker 1: you know, That's that's what We're supposed to be able
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Speaker 1: to hold up a mirror so that you can see
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Speaker 1: yourself as well as others that you know in the
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Speaker 1: characters that we play, you know. And uh so that's
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Speaker 1: that's what we get paid to do. And that's a
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Speaker 1: that's a wonderful thing. And then, like I said, I
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Speaker 1: wanted to go back to the House of Lives because
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Speaker 1: when you're around talented people, it kind of does. It
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Speaker 1: doesn't force you or cause you to step your game up,
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Speaker 1: and not saying that you never you don't step up
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Speaker 1: your game. You know what I'm saying. I'm away, don't
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Speaker 1: want to sup, but you're all, don't you And I'll
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Speaker 1: tell some man it was some times. It was some times, man,
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Speaker 1: I'm that Linz a character livers take character. I was
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Speaker 1: so mad and you when you take up for him?
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Speaker 1: He said, serious, Lorenz is just sitting over there watching
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Speaker 1: TV all day. Don't watch you the characters out there
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Speaker 1: a car. So I can find that moment relatable because
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Speaker 1: see on the sofa, the sofa next to my mom. Babe.
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Speaker 1: You know your mama going to say with you, baby,
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Speaker 1: I got something I want to tell you. We'll tell you, right.
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Speaker 1: And so when I was going through that, when I
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Speaker 1: was looking, when I whenever I saw you interact between
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Speaker 1: them two. I just thought back to my mom. I said, flash,
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Speaker 1: if I didn't heard this character in real life is
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Speaker 1: making it making a story work for somebody who's trifling.
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Speaker 1: Trifling a great right. But that's that's that's that's that's
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Speaker 1: uh the pleasure of working with people who are good
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Speaker 1: he's a beast, especially Monday, he's the beast. He's a
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Speaker 1: beast as well as as well as stage. But the
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Speaker 1: people the thing that's wonderful, uh with that, I loved
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Speaker 1: it that I've been able to work with wonderful, wonderful people.
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Speaker 1: You know. I started working within the business working with
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Speaker 1: I'm always uh looking to work with the best that
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Speaker 1: made a drug dealer who who When he died, we
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Speaker 1: was made. Yeah up, come on, get up, get up, man.
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Speaker 1: My wife screamed so loud. I don't know. I love
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Speaker 1: talking to him, man, it's like talking to my uncle,
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Speaker 1: oh jail either if we just laughing and talking to
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13:20
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13:29
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13:43
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Speaker 1: was a drug dealer, but he wanted to be more.
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Speaker 1: You know, he educated himself, you know, and and that's
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Speaker 1: where that's when I when when when you talk about
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Speaker 1: not only here. There's just a lot of fantastic people
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Speaker 1: who are working busily working today off of that series.
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Speaker 1: That's the amazing thing about that series. But I wanted
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Speaker 1: to I wasn't to step back a little bit here,
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Speaker 1: Glenn and get into it. Yeah where were you born?
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Speaker 1: Glenn Boring? Boring and married in Manhattan? In Manhattan. I'm
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Speaker 1: trying to get to this, uh, this rodeo cowboy thing,
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Speaker 1: the Bill Picking Rodeo, asked me and to be a
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Speaker 1: part of it. Uh that many years ago. And I
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Speaker 1: found a home there and that's a family and been
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Speaker 1: there for ever since. Okay, just stop him say I
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Speaker 1: Now he's in Los Angeles here, rodeo king. Okay, how
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Speaker 1: do we get to the horses though? See what you're
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Speaker 1: gonna do to me? Subways, busses, cabs, move to Hollywood,
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Speaker 1: you know, matches and limos and cards. You're on the horse.
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Speaker 1: Please please fill it up in this next break, because
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Speaker 1: Please help me out with this break. Okay, I just
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Speaker 1: he don't do me. You know you already talking. You
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Speaker 1: always question my education, you know, because a lot of
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Speaker 1: you know, Cooley High Uh, the wire house of lies.
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Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I'm gonna stop because I'm insulting
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Speaker 1: you because of your body of work. It's been over
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Speaker 1: fifty years now. Before we left, I was riding you
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Speaker 1: about this whole horse stage, this old cowboyd thing, and
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Speaker 1: any ROADEO. So that means that you have to have
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Speaker 1: had a skill set, a showcase, a moment on a horse,
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Speaker 1: a rope or something. So tell us how did you
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Speaker 1: develop that skill and how did you get into horses?
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Speaker 1: And then we're gonna get over to the camp getting up. Okay, Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, first of all, the true answer is it's
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Speaker 1: in my blood. That's the true asswa. The true answer
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Speaker 1: is it's in my blood. But like it's in so
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Speaker 1: many of us, of of of people of colors blood.
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Speaker 1: You know, we don't associate ourselves with that kind of lifestyle,
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Speaker 1: but you know, we were. We came over from Africa,
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Speaker 1: where you know, there were great horsemen there and here
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Speaker 1: my grand grand my grandfather whom I didn't even know.
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Speaker 1: He was dead for I was born. Uh. He was
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Speaker 1: the gift. That's the passion that I would always tell
21:04
Speaker 1: people who come on the show, people who are listening
21:06
Speaker 1: to the show, is that we deny yourself a lot
21:09
Speaker 1: of dreams and a lot of great moments because we go, Uh,
21:12
Speaker 1: that ain't me or what will people think about if
21:14
Speaker 1: I started doing that? And and that's why, you know,
21:18
Speaker 1: you know, I joke and I'd laugh about but the
21:21
Speaker 1: whole rodeo thing. But man, I'm in awe that you
21:25
Speaker 1: know that you're doing that and in the world where
21:28
Speaker 1: can be so superficial? And then not only that, but
21:32
Speaker 1: you tell us about your camp gette up because I'm
21:35
Speaker 1: sure it's tied to the horse environment, the rodeo lifestyle,
21:39
Speaker 1: the outdoor lifestyle the young people need to be familiar with.
21:41
Speaker 1: Because my daughter, she's twenty two, she's not gonna go
21:44
Speaker 1: anywhere without her phone and she she walks to YouTube.
21:48
Speaker 1: She got screen on the wall. She's looking at her phone.
21:51
Speaker 1: So that doesn't need anything. So tell us about that experience.
21:54
Speaker 1: And what's what is the purpose of camp gette Up. Well,
21:58
Speaker 1: it's one of the things growing up in New York
22:02
Speaker 1: and being from home and uh, you know, there's a
22:06
Speaker 1: lot of distractions back in the back in the in
22:09
Speaker 1: the city, and uh, I was no different than any
22:12
Speaker 1: other young teenager ready to get him getting into some
22:16
Speaker 1: of that mess that was going on, you know, and
22:19
Speaker 1: my mother and an attempt to my mother, in an
22:21
Speaker 1: attempt to steer me away from the wrong elements, sent
22:25
Speaker 1: my butt to camp one summer, sent me kicking and screaming.
22:29
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't want to go because I knew
22:30
Speaker 1: that that's that's summer. I had big plans to get
22:35
Speaker 1: my first jade. They used to call that. You used
22:37
Speaker 1: to get three juvel jdcus juven out the link with
22:40
Speaker 1: cards back in the day. You know, if you got
22:43
Speaker 1: if you got your third juven out of link with card,
22:45
Speaker 1: then you they were gonna send you to the reformatory. Absolutely.
22:48
Speaker 1: But and so I was working on getting my first
22:51
Speaker 1: one that summer. I knew I was gonna get that
22:53
Speaker 1: first time. You just you need to be on the podcast,
23:05
Speaker 1: and I knew I was gonna get that card. All
23:08
Speaker 1: of us, me and my boys was working on that car.
23:10
Speaker 1: A couple of more already had two or threecause but
23:14
Speaker 1: I knew I was gonna get mine, and my mother
23:15
Speaker 1: must to do it too, And she sent me to
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Speaker 1: this thing on camp and I got the camp, got
23:20
Speaker 1: in the wild outdoors and all that and the camp
23:23
Speaker 1: fires and all the fun that was having a lake
23:26
Speaker 1: and the canoeing and all that stuff, and I loved it.
23:29
Speaker 1: I said, down, God, this is great. I told my mom, boy,
23:33
Speaker 1: I want to go back next year. She said, well,
23:35
Speaker 1: you keep you in school, stop playing hooky, get your
23:37
Speaker 1: grades up in YadA, YadA, YadA, and then I send
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Speaker 1: you back next year. So the dog going that she
23:43
Speaker 1: found her hook for me, you know, right right right,
23:46
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Beautiful, beautiful shoot, you know,
23:52
Speaker 1: so I found the reason. I found them ready to
23:54
Speaker 1: reason to say no to the rest of the stuff
23:57
Speaker 1: that you know, the guys is getting ready to get into.
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Speaker 1: Come on, man, let's go do this. You don't how
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Speaker 1: to go and uh no, man, I can't best this up.
24:05
Speaker 1: I got a planned I wanted to do well, I
24:08
Speaker 1: said to myself. Later, I said, well, if that work
24:11
Speaker 1: for me, that might work for some of these little
24:14
Speaker 1: knuckle heads out you know, in the street. And I've
24:19
Speaker 1: been blessed. I've been blessed to to, you know, make
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Speaker 1: some of my dreams come true. My wife and I
24:25
Speaker 1: have gotten who was the camper also by uh she
24:30
Speaker 1: she grew up going to camps out here in California,
24:34
Speaker 1: so she understood the value of the camp and the outdoors.
24:39
Speaker 1: And uh so, when I got my piece of land,
24:43
Speaker 1: and I said, you know. One of the things we
24:44
Speaker 1: can do with this place is provide a space for
24:48
Speaker 1: kids to see something different to stars, you know, ride horses,
24:52
Speaker 1: you know, swimming upon you know, take hikes and so
24:55
Speaker 1: on and so forth, and do all the stuff that
24:56
Speaker 1: you do at camp. Just get away for a breather, uh,
25:01
Speaker 1: get away from the city. And I promised. What happened
25:03
Speaker 1: was I promised um Coretta Scott King, that that's what
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Speaker 1: I was going to do with I was started camp
25:10
Speaker 1: because this was in ninety two and we just had
25:12
Speaker 1: to Rodney King's civil unrest and Coretta Scott King had
25:18
Speaker 1: called a lot of the community leaders into UH conference
25:24
Speaker 1: in Atlanta and asked us what did we think we
25:27
Speaker 1: could do to help heal the city and some of
25:32
Speaker 1: the unrest. And that was my contribution, my wife and
25:34
Speaker 1: I as contribution. I came up with it on the spot.
25:37
Speaker 1: And uh, my wife said, how are we going to
25:40
Speaker 1: do this? You know? And I said, I don't know.
25:42
Speaker 1: But I was doing a different world at the time
25:44
Speaker 1: of the series, a different world, and so I when
25:47
Speaker 1: I asked sin Bed and I asked Don Lewis and
25:51
Speaker 1: Jasmine and cadem I said, hey, y'all chip in some books.
25:54
Speaker 1: I'm going to try and do something up at the ranch,
25:56
Speaker 1: and they did and uh we were able to start
26:00
Speaker 1: started camping. That was seven years. Congratulations. You know that's
26:04
Speaker 1: a difference maker of what you do. And then people
26:08
Speaker 1: when you called on your friends and yeah, that's a
26:10
Speaker 1: hot show, a different world, and you know that story
26:13
Speaker 1: has never been told on my show, and it needs
26:15
Speaker 1: to be told. The stories like that need to be
26:17
Speaker 1: told because all you know, celebrities are sports figures. All
26:20
Speaker 1: you hear about is the next movie. All you hear
26:22
Speaker 1: about is the next score, the next touchdown, the next championship.
26:26
Speaker 1: But it's what you do in the community. Depaying it
26:28
Speaker 1: forward makes such a big difference. And that's why I
26:31
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure people understood, you know what you're
26:33
Speaker 1: doing camp. Thank you. Let me tell you something. You know,
26:38
Speaker 1: First of all, you know, we've been having a great
26:40
Speaker 1: time and and and and we're all we're gonna have
26:42
Speaker 1: a great time because guess what, I'm ana admire of
26:44
Speaker 1: your talents, I admire your gifts. I'm a person has
26:47
Speaker 1: been seeing you all far. You know, I met you
26:49
Speaker 1: several times. It's not I'm not insulted that you don't
26:51
Speaker 1: remember me. That doesn't bother me. I'm just letting you know.
26:54
Speaker 1: I have met you, brother. I can point out your house.
26:58
Speaker 1: I can tell I could drive your offs right now.
27:02
Speaker 1: That's just that's about. I ain't gonna give no more.
27:06
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna give no more. But that's because that
27:12
Speaker 1: was like a little everybody know, because everybody know what
27:14
Speaker 1: I've been. You know, I'm still I'm still here, people,
27:18
Speaker 1: I digress. Let's go back to you. Why you really
27:20
Speaker 1: called the called me over here just having this little
27:23
Speaker 1: fun conversation, Justine. I saw the movie on Netflix. Uh
27:26
Speaker 1: you executive producers from just from You know that that
27:30
Speaker 1: factory called able don a bad bad But I just
27:41
Speaker 1: saw that Chairs Your Life, board Chair your day. Oh
27:44
Speaker 1: my god. I don't want to talk about that. Let's
27:46
Speaker 1: let's talk about Justine. Let's talk about a moving piece.
27:51
Speaker 1: Because one of the stars of the series was physically disabled,
27:56
Speaker 1: and did you physically This is why I like that.
27:59
Speaker 1: This is what my take on him. You had the
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Speaker 1: lead characters were disabled in different ways. One was emotionally
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Speaker 1: disabled and then one was physically disabled, and then they
28:09
Speaker 1: were put together in this series to see how they
28:12
Speaker 1: will interact and deal with their their their their personal crisis,
28:16
Speaker 1: their growth, and and then you had you in the middle.
28:22
Speaker 1: You those two child actors. Fantastic. Oh my god, oh
28:28
Speaker 1: my goodness, those two child actors. That little boy. Don't
28:33
Speaker 1: you know when when I be watching, because i've been fortunately,
28:38
Speaker 1: you're talking about the two kids who played my grandkids. Yes, yes, yeah,
28:42
Speaker 1: they're they're they're wonderful, as well as the girl who
28:45
Speaker 1: played the disabled all of the fantastics. But when I
28:50
Speaker 1: when I watched scripts, I've done enough scripts. I've written scripts.
28:53
Speaker 1: When I see extra that is being added in a
28:57
Speaker 1: natural state, I go and these little kids who played
29:00
Speaker 1: your grandkids, I went, they get it, they understand, they
29:05
Speaker 1: are fearless and they're natural at it, and so that's
29:09
Speaker 1: their gift. You know, they might go to a college degree.
29:12
Speaker 1: But bor, right there, I saw their gifts. They might
29:14
Speaker 1: become teenagers that I don't want to act anyone. That's
29:16
Speaker 1: their right. But boy, what I saw in this movie
29:19
Speaker 1: and you executive produced it, what were you part of
29:22
Speaker 1: the casting process? To Glenn, No, I must say that
29:26
Speaker 1: I was not. I was not. That was all Stephanie Turner.
29:29
Speaker 1: This piece is justin uh was written, directed, produced, and
29:37
Speaker 1: stars Stephanie Turner who uh is the the daughter of
29:45
Speaker 1: the football coach for the Redskins, North Turner and RV
29:50
Speaker 1: Dallas cowboards officers, breed officers and coordinator genius. Yes. Yes,
29:56
Speaker 1: And she as an actress who was tired of not
29:59
Speaker 1: getting the roles that she wanted uh you know, and
30:03
Speaker 1: finding that women were not giving the opportunities and learned
30:06
Speaker 1: to play the characters and the depths that she thought
30:09
Speaker 1: should be uh put on the screen. And so she
30:13
Speaker 1: took it upon herself to put this piece together and
30:16
Speaker 1: saw me on um as I was doing a spend
30:20
Speaker 1: on How to Get Away with Murder h series and
30:27
Speaker 1: she uh called my agents asking if I would be
30:31
Speaker 1: interested in being part of the scripts. It was a
30:34
Speaker 1: small independent movie, low budget, and she was hoping that
30:39
Speaker 1: I would be able to, you know, to see something
30:42
Speaker 1: in it enough to want me to be a part
30:44
Speaker 1: of it. And I did as soon as I read it.
30:47
Speaker 1: You know, it's a wonderful, wonderful story. Like you said that,
30:50
Speaker 1: you know, the handicapped characters uh uh in their conditions
30:57
Speaker 1: in so many different ways, and that was really it's
31:00
Speaker 1: student you to put it like that, and they're want
31:03
Speaker 1: to put it like that before and I I was,
31:06
Speaker 1: I was. I was embraced by the movie premise. I
31:10
Speaker 1: was understood her loss because the fact that you couldn't
31:14
Speaker 1: understand it, but which is great for the character, because
31:17
Speaker 1: frustration is led by tell me what's wrong. Sometimes you
31:20
Speaker 1: can't tell people what's wrong, you know, and like the
31:23
Speaker 1: like the like the therapist told you, look, leave her alone.
31:29
Speaker 1: You're trying to you're trying to make something happen, but
31:32
Speaker 1: let it apple in its natural course. And you know
31:36
Speaker 1: everybody tries that sometimes people in general, people do that.
31:39
Speaker 1: That's what leads to frustration. You know. Sometimes I asked
31:42
Speaker 1: my daughter to come quick, she might not come as
31:44
Speaker 1: quick as I won't. Then I get frustrated. What's the
31:47
Speaker 1: problem here? Did you hear it? And it's the same thing.
31:51
Speaker 1: This movie is about challenging the process, challenging racism, challenging
31:56
Speaker 1: living it or working in an environment that you really
31:59
Speaker 1: don't want to be in in but you deal with frustrated.
32:02
Speaker 1: And then when somebody asked to hear the truth, guess
32:04
Speaker 1: what it can come out of like a hot fall
32:06
Speaker 1: of water. And that's what they did. And uh, but
32:10
Speaker 1: I just like to say, my my my main thing
32:12
Speaker 1: and bring you on the show. Glenn. First of all
32:14
Speaker 1: was just to introduce myself to you, tell you I'm
32:17
Speaker 1: a friend. Secondly, let you know that the impact that
32:20
Speaker 1: you have and we'll have in this industry is a blessing.
32:23
Speaker 1: Um this movie, Justine, as soon as they told me
32:26
Speaker 1: you was for the show, I immediately watched it, enjoyed it,
32:30
Speaker 1: and I got my wife to watch it. She enjoyed it,
32:32
Speaker 1: and so absolutely, absolutely, absolutely absolutely you know, you know
32:38
Speaker 1: because it's your body of work. But like I said,
32:40
Speaker 1: my favorite scene in that movie was when you when
32:44
Speaker 1: you when you when when you was with the therapist
32:46
Speaker 1: and you closed that door. That to me, I mean
32:49
Speaker 1: this guy, I don't know if he is he acting
32:51
Speaker 1: now or he just being here set And that's the
32:54
Speaker 1: beauty of your skill, Glenn. And don't change and ask
33:00
Speaker 1: you one question. Don't don't forget, don't forget the uh
33:05
Speaker 1: this this this situation here it shut us down like
33:09
Speaker 1: it did all of Hollywood. You're talking at the big
33:12
Speaker 1: movie you No, No, I'm talking about Fargo. Actually absolutely yeah.
33:19
Speaker 1: Ris Rocke is Chris rock and here doing as center
33:21
Speaker 1: on farg on great. When do you guys see Chris
33:23
Speaker 1: and this serious role. It's really really selling that I'm
33:26
Speaker 1: looking forward to. Yeah, they upcoming taught you the fourth
33:29
Speaker 1: season of Fargo, Yes, after you played Dr Singer, Absolutely
33:35
Speaker 1: Wasson produced adaptation of August Wilson Award winning Marl Rainey's
33:38
Speaker 1: Black Bottom. You know you got to lead, man, Look
33:41
Speaker 1: at you. Busy. You're busy. Yeah, when you have time
33:45
Speaker 1: to ride a horse. But while you you at the
33:47
Speaker 1: time to everything I did, well do do my favorite Glenn,
33:51
Speaker 1: tell you people to send me the posters and send
33:54
Speaker 1: me trailers so I can promote your brand. I got
33:56
Speaker 1: almost a million followers, a two or thousand FANCI members,
33:59
Speaker 1: and I'm on podcast educat markets. I'm here to promote
34:04
Speaker 1: your brand. I'm here to say thank you for being
34:06
Speaker 1: you and don't change. Thanks, Thank you man, thank you
34:09
Speaker 1: for having me on the show. I appreciate this. This
34:11
Speaker 1: is the fun end of you. They're the most fun
34:13
Speaker 1: of you. I'm gonna tell you some man laugh right there,
34:21
Speaker 1: Your laugh making me smile, because man, you know they
34:24
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34:27
Speaker 1: you're smile. Brother, you'll smile. You're laughing your smile on
34:32
Speaker 1: fire Man on fire dude, fire, keep winning, brother. I
34:35
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