Latest / In Focus with Carolyn Hutcheson / Scott Simon - TPR's In Focus - April 28, 2026
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- 0:16Scott Simon, you have made our day. Welcome to Troy Public Radio.
- 0:22Well, thank you. I'm excited to be here. Thanks so much.
- 0:26Your book, Ulysses S. Cat and Other Animals I Have Known, is heartwarming. Who was Ulysses S. Cat?
- 0:37Well, it's his revenge on us that he winds up getting the title of the book at the suggestion of
- 0:43my publisher. He was my late mother's cat, last pet in her life, and also for my late stepfather.
- 0:51And Ulysses, who was a huge orange cat, a little, you know, smashed in face, did not like me and
- 1:00my wife, Caroline, and our daughters, Elise and Paulina, when we visited my mother in Chicago.
- 1:05Because my mother would talk to our daughters, hello baby, how are you? Can I get you something?
- 1:11In the same little voice that Ulysses believed was saved just for him.
- 1:17So he would occasionally go that sort of thing and try and scare them away, unsuccessfully,
- 1:22I must say. One of the many things that I enjoyed about writing the book and the chance to run
- 1:28things through my mind, and my heart for that matter, was to realize all over again the important
- 1:33role that Ulysses played in the lives of my late mother and stepfather. My stepfather was mostly
- 1:40bedridden at that particular point, occasionally in a wheelchair. He had begun to lose some zest
- 1:45for life. He had wondered what it was all adding up to at that particular point. And all Ulysses
- 1:51wanted from him was a nice place to curl up. He wanted to be under his arm, he wanted to be on
- 1:56his stomach, the two of them would listen to music together. He came along at a wonderful time in my
- 2:02late stepfather's life, when Ulysses reminded my stepfather that he was still capable of bringing
- 2:08joy into the world. And it was wonderful to see. Endearing companion. And speaking of companionship,
- 2:16you have a companion in your home recording studio. You mean Gato Blanco. I'd say at least
- 2:24a dozen times Gato will be... I'm sitting at the broadcast table in our family apartment right now,
- 2:32where I have some of my late mother's mask cards, where I have pictures of our daughters,
- 2:37pictures of my late mother, my mother-in-law, a Saint Simon little bust from Spain. I could go on
- 2:45and Gato will just leap up on the table, which is difficult because he is, we sometimes call him the
- 2:50Orson Welles of cats, he is so large, you know, with a swish of his tail will hit the mic or knock
- 2:56something over. And I have interviewed some well-known authors and some entertainers and
- 3:01comedians and experts on various subjects, and I'll have to say, I'm sorry, you know, Gato Blanco
- 3:08just knocked over something. And none of them, and I mean none of them, has taken exception to that.
- 3:14On the contrary, they all go, oh, is he all right? Can I say hello? Is everything all right? And it just
- 3:20reminds me that the animals in our lives have a way of calling out some of our better instincts too.
- 3:26And they have a way of keeping us grounded. I want to get serious for a moment. In your book,
- 3:32you talk about pets in the siege of Sarajevo in 1993. Yeah. Then you also talk about being
- 3:42at Hurricane Katrina. What were the parallels in those two situations?
- 3:48I think both those situations, those tragedies, those outrages in which so many people died,
- 3:55reminded a lot of people what was important in their lives. And of course, first came family and
- 3:59animals. Pets, if you please, are very much part of our families. We went to the funeral of Miss Anita
- 4:09in Biloxi, Mississippi, who died in a home with her cats and dogs that she had taken in because
- 4:15she wasn't allowed to be evacuated with them. And she would rather face whatever was there with her
- 4:20animals than go on without them. As I don't have to tell you, probably the laws were changed here
- 4:27in the United States after Katrina so that people, in fact, when they were being evacuated, could
- 4:32bring a pet or animal with them, given the size, because they understood that a lot of people just
- 4:37would refuse to go if it meant leaving behind their animals. And certainly in Sarajevo, it
- 4:44inspired us so much to see and know that people were sharing some of their meager humanitarian
- 4:49relief supplies with their cats and dogs and hamsters and parrots, so that they would keep
- 4:56on going as members of their family. When we were with someone who was walking their dog and
- 5:01we all came under sniper fire. But as she explained to us, you don't explain to a dog,
- 5:05no, there's snipers out there. And, you know, they have to get outside.
- 5:09You say about Sarajevo that for animals at the lowest times in their lives, Sarajevo should
- 5:18show the world real humanitarian aid. Yeah. And that's what I believe, real humanitarian aid,
- 5:26in that it was aid that was not self-centered. It was aid that comes from our heart and is
- 5:32extended to others in the whole embrace that we have of life. And seeing the generosity
- 5:38and the love that people in Sarajevo extended to the animals in their lives absolutely and
- 5:43utterly reminded me of that. Scott, you say in the book that pets unlock our hearts. And then on
- 5:51page 201, one of the pets in your family is a hamster named Bagel. You and your wife were about
- 5:59to go somewhere and couldn't find Bagel. Can you share what happened to Bagel? Well, yes, Bagel got
- 6:08out of his Bagelarium one night. And I described the search with some alarm and actually wound up,
- 6:16because we also had rats at that particular time, and I actually wound up with his back on the
- 6:21matting of some rat paper and had to be unstuck by my wife, the French escape artist. And one of
- 6:28the things I noticed, because we worried that either Gato or Daisy, our dog, our French poodle,
- 6:36would mostly think of Bagel as a morsel. But when they were presented with the opportunity to make
- 6:42a meal of Bagel, they didn't. So I think they understood, too, in their own ways, Bagel, you know, a
- 6:48member of our family. Now, one of your cats, Leona, had ties to the British Embassy. What was that about?
- 6:58Well, because she was the cat of three interns who worked at the British Embassy. And as I
- 7:02understood the story, they were leaving after their summer at the Embassy and left a bathroom
- 7:09window open. And Leona got out into the alley, came up to me after the show on a Saturday.
- 7:15I saw the people had, you know, printed out posters or put them on in the neighborhood in the trees.
- 7:21I brought Leona home to take care of her. By the time we got a call from the British Embassy
- 7:26personnel, a very nice woman we grew to know named Jane Brown. She said, you know, Scott,
- 7:31I think there's a reason why this little cat walked up to you. I think you should take her
- 7:37into your family, but you must rear her as a British cat. So, of course, we agreed. And we
- 7:44would put pictures of David Beckham up over her food bowl. I would get Manchester United pennants
- 7:50for her when we traveled. And, you know, I must say, Carolyn, I hope you will understand,
- 7:56from our family's point of view, this was big because my wife is French, okay? And there was
- 8:00a little War of the Roses tension left over there. But in any event, my wife grew to accept,
- 8:06from the first, accepted Leona. Leona, your cat from across the pond.
- 8:12Toward the end of the book, you talk about what we learn from pets. Can you share that?
- 8:18Sure. Here we go. What we learn. I don't want to risk a faintly scolding word to raise the
- 8:25question of what we might learn from the animals in our lives. After all, it's just fine to
- 8:30enjoy the ride. But I know that every cat, dog, fish, turtle, hamster, grasshopper, and other
- 8:35living thing we have brought into our family's lives has helped to lift us outside of ourselves.
- 8:42They remind us that caring for others can give our lives a sense of purpose. That care is at
- 8:48the core of what gives us life. Well, Scott, one of the most endearing parts of your book,
- 8:56Ulysses S. Cat, is actually about your family's beloved dog, Daisy. And although we haven't had
- 9:03time to talk about Daisy, I know the listeners will love the opportunity to get your book,
- 9:09Ulysses S. Cat and Other Animals I Have Known, and learn all about Daisy and the other pets who
- 9:16have been in your life. Before I let you go, can you share some thoughts about the importance of
- 9:23supporting public radio? Oh, yes. I think it's more important than ever in these times. And there
- 9:29are so many dissonant voices, often with inauthentic information, that we have a source of
- 9:35information that's available to each and every person in the United States without a paywall.
- 9:41They can tune in to us and know that the information they're getting is solid and verifiable
- 9:48and something in which they can believe and information in which they can trust. That is
- 9:53essential to building a democracy. And I think these times in particular, we realize how essential
- 10:00it is to keeping that going now. Scott Simon, it has been a joy and a privilege to share your book
- 10:08and your thoughts with your fans here at Troy Public Radio in Alabama, Georgia and Florida.
- 10:14Thank you so much. Well, the honor is mine. Thanks so much, Carolyn.