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Matthew A. Cherry, Stephanie Humphrey, Ed Gordon, Kwame Johnson & Juliet Udeochu · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: guest is uh dif friend um been knowing him? Wow.
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Speaker 1: When I first started managers the way back in the
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Speaker 1: radio days in l A. He's to come in there
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Speaker 1: man with the camera crew. He's always been a go getter,
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Speaker 1: but more importantly, he's one of the most widely respected,
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Speaker 1: award winning journalists in the industry today. Over the course
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Speaker 1: of his stellar career, he's worked at various television networks
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Speaker 1: including B E, T, NBC in MS, NBC and CBS.
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Speaker 1: We hosted and contributed to programs including Conversations with Ed Gordon,
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Speaker 1: b Et Too Night, b T News, Sixty Minutes, NBC
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Speaker 1: Today's Show, and Dateline. He is also a former host
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Speaker 1: of Our World with Black Enterprise and NPR News. Is
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Speaker 1: a new book, Conversations in Black, where he brings some
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Speaker 1: of the today's top leaders and influences together to explore
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Speaker 1: new narratives for African American leadership and the post Obama
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Speaker 1: era and the Trump era. The book, the book We're
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Speaker 1: released on Hatbayed by Hatchet Books on January fourteen of
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Speaker 1: this month, is available for pre order right now. Please
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Speaker 1: welcome to Money Making Conversation my man Ed Gordon. Well,
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Speaker 1: first of all, this book I kind of you know,
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Speaker 1: I know, this book kind of started being developed in
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Speaker 1: twenty twelve because we should do the Neighborhood Awards together.
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Speaker 1: So it was always talked and so I'm not I'm
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Speaker 1: not shocked by coming out. But it's also when we
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Speaker 1: started talking to Obama as president, and so it really allows,
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Speaker 1: I've read the book, allows for you to tell a
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Speaker 1: unique story because now you have the Obama experience and
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Speaker 1: now you have the Trump experience. Yeah, it's interesting, Rashaan,
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Speaker 1: I started in twelve at least the idea came to me,
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Speaker 1: and the book itself is written as if all forty
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Speaker 1: plus of us were in the same room having a conversation.
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Speaker 1: You know, often some of the best nuggets come out
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Speaker 1: of interviews, when you're talking to the person before or
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Speaker 1: after the interview, and I said to myself, with all
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Speaker 1: the great people I talked to, Uh, it wouldn't be
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Speaker 1: great if I could get everybody in the same room. Well,
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Speaker 1: I knew I couldn't do that, but I said I
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Speaker 1: could have what people would see as a virtual conversation. Now.
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Speaker 1: So it's written as if we're all sitting together, and
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Speaker 1: each chapter is a different topic. So we talk about
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Speaker 1: black girl magic, we talk about Black Lives Matter, the
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Speaker 1: Black vote, the Obama years, Trump images in Black America.
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Speaker 1: We cover everything and some of the people we have
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Speaker 1: Maxine Waters, Hary Bellafani, t I to mel Hill, Angela
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Speaker 1: Ry uh, Stacy Abrams, Eric Holder. I mean, the list
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Speaker 1: goes on and on, DL Hugh Lee, Charlemagne and God.
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Speaker 1: And what I'm most proud of man is I started
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Speaker 1: in twent twelve. I had to stop it because I
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Speaker 1: got a TV project. I picked it back up, uh
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Speaker 1: last year in nineteen and now we've got the culmination
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Speaker 1: of this, And I think it's important because our community
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Speaker 1: has kind of been stuck in neutral. We need some
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Speaker 1: new narratives because our fight for justice and equality, as
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Speaker 1: you and I talked about all the time, continues, and
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Speaker 1: it's really important that you say that because you know,
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Speaker 1: at a certain points in the book that you were
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Speaker 1: pointing out, like in you talked about when you was
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Speaker 1: on the Steve Harvey Show and there wasn't November about
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Speaker 1: the voting, and you was on the phone being interviewed,
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Speaker 1: and you felt the synergy there, The energy wasn't there
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Speaker 1: for the black vote. It felt like there was a
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Speaker 1: complacency and and and because of that in place, and see,
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Speaker 1: we have to believe that may have cost Hillary Clinton,
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Speaker 1: among other things, the opportunity to be the next president
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Speaker 1: of the United States. When you talk about that complacency,
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Speaker 1: we're talking about that same complacent complacencing today, even though
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Speaker 1: we are provided with much more channels of communication, especially
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Speaker 1: with social media, right absolutely. And Rashan, you know, you
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Speaker 1: brought me on Steve Show and gave me a segment
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Speaker 1: because you understood the making sure that we've got certain
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Speaker 1: words out and looked at certain ideas and certain issues.
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Speaker 1: And you know, Black America has been taken for granted
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Speaker 1: for a long time. And because of that, I think
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Speaker 1: we have become complacent with you know, I look at
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Speaker 1: the the NFL playoffs right now. You know, four black
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks when there were years and years and years, and
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Speaker 1: people believed no black quarterbacks. You know, they talk about
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Speaker 1: all these new coaches that they want to hire, but
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Speaker 1: tell them, do you hear a black name mentioned? Even
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Speaker 1: what the NFL talking about the Roodey rule. And we're
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Speaker 1: gonna really look at minorities they don't. We're looking at
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Speaker 1: what Trump has done over the course of this next
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Speaker 1: four years. And I hastened to say, and I hate
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Speaker 1: to even admit this, but he could win again in
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Speaker 1: eight years of Trump. As Stacy Abram said says in
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Speaker 1: the book, if you think this four years has been bad,
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Speaker 1: you better strap in if he wins again. Absolutely, So
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Speaker 1: when you when we go through the book, you know
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Speaker 1: then you mentioned something the name Dio, hughgle, Eric Holder,
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Speaker 1: Jamal Hill all shot at Michael Eric Dyson, t I
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Speaker 1: these are these are the pen eight people. But also
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Speaker 1: you have an opinion ed And that's when I was
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Speaker 1: when I was reading a book, you kind of took
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Speaker 1: a step back and allowed them to tell the delivered
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Speaker 1: the narrative. Was that difficult for you or that was
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Speaker 1: the whole approach to the book? Now? Really that was
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Speaker 1: the approaches you know, uh Rashwan, I have been a
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Speaker 1: traditional journalist my entire career, so I don't often give
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Speaker 1: my opinion, though in this book I get more of
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Speaker 1: my opinion than I would normally. But as I said,
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Speaker 1: I thought the dynamic of this book was to get
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Speaker 1: all of these people to your point. The people that
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Speaker 1: you bring in, the people that are go getters, that
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Speaker 1: you know, the rule change that the people that make
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Speaker 1: a difference. I thought bringing together forty plus of those
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Speaker 1: folks would be so dynamic. I mean, we've got April
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Speaker 1: Rain who started oscar So White, Torono Burke, who started
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Speaker 1: the Me Too movement. You know, they're talking about black
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Speaker 1: girl magic um with with the Yamba Uh. You know.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I just felt like we need to start talking,
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Speaker 1: and then more importantly, out of those conversations, we have
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Speaker 1: to start doing and if not, we're gonna just be
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Speaker 1: sitting in this neutral spot. One of the things we
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Speaker 1: do in one of the chapters is we look at
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Speaker 1: black leadership and ask the question whether or not they've
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Speaker 1: been doing enough. And you know, that's really interesting thing
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Speaker 1: about I'm talking to Ed Gordon. His book Conversations in
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Speaker 1: Black Uh. You can pre order it now, is being
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Speaker 1: presented by Hatchet Books that are being Wars a January
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Speaker 1: fourteen Conversations in Black with Ed Gordon. He's interviewed forty
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Speaker 1: UM industry decision makers, people I talked to on them
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Speaker 1: on a daily basis about leadership, about what's next, what's next.
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Speaker 1: But that leadership I think is, you know, because we
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Speaker 1: always go back to what real leadership. You know, you
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Speaker 1: always go back to Martin Luther King and you true leaders,
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Speaker 1: and you go to Malcolm X, true leader, and after
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Speaker 1: that it kind of gets confusing. Ever since then, who
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Speaker 1: do we turn to? You know, entertainment has somehow become
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Speaker 1: the leaders of the voice of Black America music. You
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Speaker 1: know in your book you talk about Marvin Gay, you
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Speaker 1: know what's going on that CD that that resonates with me.
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Speaker 1: That music still is relevant today. But I feel that
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Speaker 1: when you start talking about leaders, I think our leaders
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Speaker 1: are entertainers. I think killing Mike and t I both
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Speaker 1: say that in the book. And we always had entertainers
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Speaker 1: who were leaders, you know, you think about the Civil
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Speaker 1: rights movement, Harry Belafonte was out there, and Sammy Davis,
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Speaker 1: Judy Year in Sydney Potier, but you also had those
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Speaker 1: other leaders that you know, we're in the four if
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Speaker 1: I ask you twenty years ago name the top ten
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Speaker 1: black leaders, you could do it without even thinking boom
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Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom. Today, you know, if I say, okay,
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Speaker 1: I'll give you Al Sharpton, I'll give you know, four
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Speaker 1: or five people after that, name me ten more people struggle.
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Speaker 1: And so I don't know that we have to have
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Speaker 1: ten black national leaders like we used to. But what
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Speaker 1: we do talk about in the book, and what we
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Speaker 1: need desperately is a black agenda. No people move forward
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Speaker 1: without a plan. No, no team wins without a game plan,
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Speaker 1: and Black America doesn't have a game plan right now.
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Speaker 1: We hope that this book will be the start to
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Speaker 1: really move people uh to make a difference in their communities,
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Speaker 1: because sometimes we're sitting and waiting on others to do. Rashaan,
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Speaker 1: and you've always said, you know the idea of getting going,
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Speaker 1: you know, you being your own sparks. So if you
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Speaker 1: don't see the leadership in your community, then you need
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Speaker 1: to be the leader. Let me ask you this, because
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Speaker 1: we talk about you know that that black leadership, the
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Speaker 1: black voice. You know, because of social media, you know
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Speaker 1: it is always tell people what social media has changed,
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Speaker 1: how people communicate because it's everybody's press conference. You don't
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Speaker 1: need to offer to call a press conference posted. And
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Speaker 1: I feel that in some ways that has diminished exactly
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Speaker 1: who is doing the talking, because the viral video can
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Speaker 1: do the talking for that particular subject matter. So has
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Speaker 1: social media helped us or diminished our ability to be organized? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think it's done both. I mean, let's let's face it.
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Speaker 1: If social media had been back in the day, King
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Speaker 1: would have had a Twitter page, King would had a
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Speaker 1: Facebook page. But what King would have done is he
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Speaker 1: would have put it up on Twitter and then hit
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Speaker 1: the streets. What we have too many people doing is
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Speaker 1: liking it on Twitter, but forgetting to hit the streets,
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Speaker 1: or forgetting to stay off that bus, or forgetting to etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
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Speaker 1: You know, and we've got to be honest about black leadership.
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Speaker 1: You know, I asked people in one of the chapters
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Speaker 1: on black leadership to grade black leadership. And you know,
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Speaker 1: when you say the leadership, you gotta put that in quote.
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Speaker 1: So an entertainer can be a leadership. Someone like Charlemagne
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Speaker 1: and God as a leader, he's got such a huge
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Speaker 1: platform and he moves forward but when we look at
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Speaker 1: traditional leadership, leaders of civil rights organizations and the like. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, some people have been skeptical and not been
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Speaker 1: happy with the leadership we've received in the last twenty years.
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Speaker 1: I asked some people to give a grade to it,
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Speaker 1: and not everyone gave, you know, high marks. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this book is very candid too. You know, it's not
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Speaker 1: just everybody patting one another on the back. But what
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Speaker 1: but what they don't do is they don't beat up
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Speaker 1: without offering solutions or without saying, hey, we've got to
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Speaker 1: have these people's backs. You know. The interesting thing about
11:48
Speaker 1: it is that I'm talking to Edging his book Conversations
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Speaker 1: uh in Black in regards to History stand January fourteen.
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Speaker 1: Right now, you can pre order it. Uh, Can you
11:57
Speaker 1: tell us how we can get the book other than
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Speaker 1: what I been saying about it. Yeah, you can go
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Speaker 1: to ed Gordon dot net and their links there that
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Speaker 1: allow you to uh pre order the book or wherever
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Speaker 1: you normally order books, Amazon or Barnes and Noble. But
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Speaker 1: the easiest way, and you'll learn a little bit more
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Speaker 1: about the book, is to go to ed Gordon dot
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Speaker 1: net and you can hit the link. It will take
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Speaker 1: you right to the page and you can pre order
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Speaker 1: the book if you're too lazy to do that. January fourteen,
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Speaker 1: that's the day it hits the stores. If you don't
12:27
Speaker 1: like to go on the computer, just wherever you buy
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Speaker 1: your books, get your books. It's a great present for
12:32
Speaker 1: young people. I mean, we talk about the youth. We
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Speaker 1: talk about Nipsey Hustle in the chapter about black men
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Speaker 1: and all that. So it's uh, it's a little uh
12:42
Speaker 1: something for everybody in this book. But I think and
12:45
Speaker 1: hope that at the end of the day it will
12:47
Speaker 1: be an important book and get us not only talking
12:50
Speaker 1: but moving. Kevin, will you be doing a tour with
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Speaker 1: the book autographs? Uh, we'll hit starting uh January four teens. UM,
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Speaker 1: I'll do press in New York and uh uh d C.
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Speaker 1: to get people to join the conversation. Sir, you know,
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Speaker 1: have a conversation in black and then get out there.
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Speaker 1: We need new narratives, We need everybody involved because at
13:43
Speaker 1: the end of the day, particularly if Trump wins again
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Speaker 1: haven forbid. Uh, they're putting us all in the same boat.
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Speaker 1: That's January. Tell us about that the gathering Spot. Yes, yes, yes, um, yes,
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Speaker 1: you know right now. The gathering Spot is the hub
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Speaker 1: for young African American professionals if you have a startup.
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Speaker 1: If I mean, Ryan just has a great thing going
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Speaker 1: in the city and I think it's amazing, so um
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Speaker 1: to us, I was an ideal place to have it.
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Speaker 1: So this is our second event, especially social entrepreneur. If
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Speaker 1: you're a social entrepreneur, yes, this is where you need
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Speaker 1: to be. So basically it's uh, we did it two
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Speaker 1: years ago, keep forgetting and to me, it was just
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Speaker 1: a call of action. I wanted to bring together a room.
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Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm from l A and I haven't
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Speaker 1: seen so many young professional African Americans, so I moved
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Speaker 1: to Atlanta. You know, everybody's a fake basketball, fake this,
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Speaker 1: fake that. But we have men out here really doing things.
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Speaker 1: So why aren't we out here giving back to these communities.
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen so much disparity until I lept out here.
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Speaker 1: So um, the panel is just I wanted to have
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Speaker 1: a conversation, why are you not doing your part? Who
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Speaker 1: is that who impacted you to become the man you
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Speaker 1: the second year and last two thousand and eighteen it
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Speaker 1: most African American man we ever had. And how did
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Speaker 1: out deep. We had about maybe thirty guys. Yeah, out,
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Speaker 1: want to be able to just just you know, I
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Speaker 1: always tell people, you know, you always want to go
19:15
Speaker 1: get in on the restaurant when you can't get in it,
19:17
Speaker 1: you know, going that people to cheers, people on the
19:19
Speaker 1: walls going, Okay, what's going on? But what they what
19:23
Speaker 1: they is what they're keeping over with these kids? You
19:25
Speaker 1: know what what I gotta do? And so I don't
19:27
Speaker 1: that's the goal. The goal is to put us, put
19:29
Speaker 1: us in a position. You know, it was really interesting
19:32
Speaker 1: when I everything. You got to have a little swag
19:35
Speaker 1: look cool too. That's why people jump in real fast,
19:38
Speaker 1: you know, because they don't know and world gets out
19:40
Speaker 1: of going I'm doing this. I'm changing this young man's
19:42
Speaker 1: life and only give eight hours a day a month,
19:45
Speaker 1: eight hours eight hours a month a month, and that's
19:48
Speaker 1: and then but we have to realize that is time.
19:52
Speaker 1: But that is not an incredible amount of time. You're
19:54
Speaker 1: not adopting this kid. So so what was the theme
19:57
Speaker 1: for the panel last year? Did anybody host Japan? Because
20:00
Speaker 1: you got your bar with showing in, Yeah, you put
20:04
Speaker 1: what they told me. I gotta get people and you know,
20:06
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta have a theme. I gotta host.
20:08
Speaker 1: You know, I'm you know what I'm saying I'm going
20:10
Speaker 1: to work for the big and theater. Listen. We wanted
20:17
Speaker 1: to definitely, we wanted to take it to another level
20:19
Speaker 1: this year. Last year was great. We just had a
20:21
Speaker 1: lot of folks who are already a part of our network,
20:23
Speaker 1: some big some brothers who are already doing the work.
20:25
Speaker 1: But we wanted to bring in some celebrities like yourself,
20:27
Speaker 1: others who could really get the word out at a
20:29
Speaker 1: big level UM this time and you know, partnering with
20:32
Speaker 1: the gathering spout with Ryan and others down there, just
20:35
Speaker 1: taking it to the next level. So we want to
20:37
Speaker 1: get folks like you. We got some other big names
20:38
Speaker 1: we're not gonna share right now that we're working on
20:41
Speaker 1: UM to just get new people in the building who
20:43
Speaker 1: don't know about it and have a conversation and say,
20:45
Speaker 1: you know, this is really about us stepping up as
20:47
Speaker 1: men in the community, many of us who are doing
20:49
Speaker 1: really good things and have you know, eight hours we
20:52
Speaker 1: can and it's it's not really about new time. I say, create,
20:55
Speaker 1: you know, incorporation, your person you're this same time. You
20:57
Speaker 1: know you're doing different things already, and why not bring
21:00
Speaker 1: that young person with you to do things that you're
21:02
Speaker 1: already gonna do and give them ex but bring them
21:04
Speaker 1: up to the studio or you know, if I go
21:06
Speaker 1: to the barbershop or different things that we do. Um,
21:08
Speaker 1: just s all right in my mind, you know, trying
21:11
Speaker 1: to calculate time. You know, you know I've started by
21:13
Speaker 1: pilate classes. I'm just trying to you know, because really
21:19
Speaker 1: when you start saying it, but it's about the commitment though.
21:22
Speaker 1: For me, that's important that people out there understand because
21:24
Speaker 1: I've been there. I've seen these kids. I walked in
21:27
Speaker 1: the room. They look, they go whatever because they know,
21:31
Speaker 1: are you here to make yourself feel good today? You know,
21:34
Speaker 1: just your one charity moment. Don't look at me as
21:36
Speaker 1: a charity case. I can do bad by myself. I
21:39
Speaker 1: don't need this emotional drop in and drop out experience.
21:43
Speaker 1: That is the key that we have to say is that.
21:45
Speaker 1: But we have to let them know that there's a commitment.
21:48
Speaker 1: But they also is not an adoption process from going
21:51
Speaker 1: down and not moving into your how know. So I
21:55
Speaker 1: want to touch on what you just said, so call
21:57
Speaker 1: me said as well. UM, we like to call it,
21:59
Speaker 1: don't make me time, share time the time that you
22:02
Speaker 1: have already on the weekends, what do you do go
22:04
Speaker 1: to the barbershop. I'd like to use the example. Um,
22:06
Speaker 1: I met a big who said, um, what his little
22:09
Speaker 1: brother like to do with him was to watch his
22:11
Speaker 1: car on the weekend because his parents didn't have cars.
22:14
Speaker 1: And that time, sitting down washing this car with his
22:17
Speaker 1: big he's talking about school, talking about sport, and he's
22:21
Speaker 1: getting that one on one time you go to the
22:23
Speaker 1: grocery store, go to public. I like to say tell
22:26
Speaker 1: your little this, Hey, we're going to grocery store. You
22:28
Speaker 1: have to do it because you have no food in
22:29
Speaker 1: your house. But to that, that's that one on one time.
22:32
Speaker 1: Say hey, we're gonna go in the grocery store with
22:34
Speaker 1: for fifty minutes for fifty dollars. At that point, you
22:37
Speaker 1: teach you a little how to budget money, time management.
22:41
Speaker 1: And while you're walking up and down the aisles, healthy
22:43
Speaker 1: living right, how to get healthy food. And you guys
22:47
Speaker 1: are just talking. You might not want to go shopping
22:49
Speaker 1: with me. No ice cream, get some cakes, and you
22:54
Speaker 1: can teach your boy how to bake. She's gonna get
23:00
Speaker 1: it back to the right. I'm gonna be trying to
23:02
Speaker 1: frank some joke. Keep my bake but that's your skill set.
23:06
Speaker 1: And then that's why you guys work as a team
23:08
Speaker 1: because of the fact that I'm here because somebody was
23:12
Speaker 1: courageous enough to say, I need you to be a
23:15
Speaker 1: part of this. Okay, now you got my mindset. I'm
23:18
Speaker 1: overly trying to block time. Now I gotta go talk
23:20
Speaker 1: to my wife. Go Okay, I'm thinking about what you
23:22
Speaker 1: do because because you know, I'm mad at because she
23:25
Speaker 1: ain't got a dog, you know what I'm saying, And
23:28
Speaker 1: so and and and so. Now I'm trying to bring
23:30
Speaker 1: on a human being into our world, and so for
23:34
Speaker 1: a committed process and that so I got to look
23:36
Speaker 1: at my schedule and see how eight hours plays out,
23:41
Speaker 1: because no matter what we are, what we're talking about,
23:45
Speaker 1: it's still a human being. And and in different age
23:48
Speaker 1: groups who don't know the experiences they've had before you
23:51
Speaker 1: came along. Like you said, you have a young child
23:53
Speaker 1: eight you might want to mentor somebody who's twelve, somebody
23:56
Speaker 1: who's fifty. Each one of them they got some drama
23:58
Speaker 1: coming with that, you know, I'm saying. So you have
24:00
Speaker 1: to know who you're talking to because that kid that
24:03
Speaker 1: you may be starting to mentor maybe already have went
24:06
Speaker 1: down the road or made the curve that you if
24:08
Speaker 1: you're not spending the time to understand where they're at mentally,
24:12
Speaker 1: you you just shocked. You wake up, you see him
24:14
Speaker 1: on the news and because you did, because you were
24:17
Speaker 1: just you know, playing the game. Yeah. Yeah, we make
24:20
Speaker 1: sure you know before you get in that you know
24:21
Speaker 1: all the background and in choice is a big part
24:24
Speaker 1: of this. In preference and you may want to work
24:26
Speaker 1: with an eight year old, twelve year old or young
24:28
Speaker 1: man who's into certain things, you know, So all that
24:30
Speaker 1: plays into to our decision making process. But also you
24:34
Speaker 1: get to know what's going on before we match you,
24:36
Speaker 1: and the family gets to know about you before we
24:38
Speaker 1: match you. So it's a very thoughtful process where we
24:41
Speaker 1: work together on that. Right. So with that being said,
24:43
Speaker 1: I'm just talking to YouTube. What's what's this? The staff
24:46
Speaker 1: look like a big brothers. We have a very amazing team,
24:49
Speaker 1: fifty staff, most of our staff on our program team.
24:53
Speaker 1: We have a very diverse staff. We gotta you know,
24:57
Speaker 1: folks who have MSW degrees and you folks like me
25:00
Speaker 1: who were in jail, you know. So it's it's a
25:02
Speaker 1: it's a very great team to work with. I'm very
25:05
Speaker 1: honored every day to go work with them. And our
25:07
Speaker 1: program team is really providing the support to our bigs
25:11
Speaker 1: and our kids in the field and the families that
25:12
Speaker 1: are doing the work. So it's a great staff. But
25:14
Speaker 1: we have fifty staff. We're in midtown. Come check us
25:16
Speaker 1: out any time, right right at the corner seventeenth th Peachtree.
25:19
Speaker 1: We love to have you cool so real men mentor Yes.
25:23
Speaker 1: The panel is going to be January at the gathering spot.
25:27
Speaker 1: How long was it last year? About an hour? So
25:30
Speaker 1: we have Yeah, so we have when you first come in,
25:32
Speaker 1: we we we want to talk for now by myself,
25:36
Speaker 1: it can go longer. You've got a long wind bill
25:39
Speaker 1: over here. But with the things I'm dragging all these
25:44
Speaker 1: people down here. You know, a man ain't we want
25:49
Speaker 1: to get him in. But I know we want to
25:51
Speaker 1: have like a whole like mixer time to for you
25:53
Speaker 1: to get in meet other local men in Atlanta. We're
25:56
Speaker 1: going to have guys who were big are ready talk
25:59
Speaker 1: to them because you know, this is our job get
26:03
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26:04
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26:06
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26:09
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26:11
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26:15
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26:18
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26:21
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28:01
Speaker 1: no of his work. Is a former NFL wide receiver
28:04
Speaker 1: turned filmmaker who played for the Jacksonville Jagulaws, Cecinnati Bengals,
28:09
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, and the Baltimore Ravens. He retired to two
28:12
Speaker 1: thousand and seven and moved to l a A to
28:14
Speaker 1: pursue a career in entertainment. Since then, he has going
28:17
Speaker 1: on to direct music videos, short films, feature films, television
28:21
Speaker 1: and wealth series. He's an NFL alum director, Monkey Ball,
28:26
Speaker 1: Monkey Paul Production Films and television executive and author of
28:31
Speaker 1: When I Just Read It Last Night called Hair Love.
28:34
Speaker 1: He currently is a television executive, like I stated early
28:36
Speaker 1: with Market Paul Productions. Please welcome to moneymaking conversations. My man,
28:41
Speaker 1: Matthew a cherry, Hey, how you doing well. You've got
28:47
Speaker 1: a lot going on, you know, for to be a
28:49
Speaker 1: former football player, a couple of things. You know. First
28:54
Speaker 1: of all, you know a sport that I you know,
28:57
Speaker 1: a sport that I would never play because physically, Uh,
29:02
Speaker 1: I don't know. I looked at it this weekend. I'm going,
29:05
Speaker 1: how do y'all do it? So do you look back? Matthew,
29:07
Speaker 1: he go, how did I do it? And why did
29:10
Speaker 1: I do it? Oh? No, not at all, um. You know,
29:15
Speaker 1: I think it's just uh, some people, you know, like
29:18
Speaker 1: when you when you're growing up, you live in certain environments,
29:20
Speaker 1: the neighborhoods, and you know it's kind of what all
29:23
Speaker 1: your friends are doing, and you know, you you want
29:25
Speaker 1: to kind of stay off the streets and make sure
29:27
Speaker 1: that you have something else going on. And you know,
29:30
Speaker 1: football growing up in Chicago was uh, what's kind of
29:33
Speaker 1: that for me? So no, not at all. Chicago. I
29:37
Speaker 1: was at Chicago. I lived in Chicago. I was I
29:40
Speaker 1: was producing, uh that could produce a Steve Harvest talk
29:43
Speaker 1: show from and my man, I got closed with your clothes,
29:51
Speaker 1: but I had to buy in Chicago, that I wear
29:53
Speaker 1: nowhere else hilarious. Ye gets pretty pretty frosty out there.
30:00
Speaker 1: So do you miss the code? That's all I'm ask
30:02
Speaker 1: Do you missed the cold Chicago? My friend? No, No,
30:05
Speaker 1: I live in l A now, so you know don't.
30:10
Speaker 1: So let's talk about you getting started in this business, because,
30:12
Speaker 1: like I said, you know everybody's stereo types of individuals.
30:15
Speaker 1: You know, your your football player. When you start trying
30:18
Speaker 1: to get out of that window, people can look at
30:20
Speaker 1: your life. M why how uh is that is that
30:25
Speaker 1: even possible? Even if I like that to the fact
30:28
Speaker 1: that you know, I come from the inner city, uh, Matthew,
30:31
Speaker 1: and I my degree is in mathematics. I wanted to
30:34
Speaker 1: be a stand up comic and people look at me like, okay,
30:37
Speaker 1: stand up comic. You're not Richard pryor you're not rich Box.
30:40
Speaker 1: So people always want to block. You're always tell people
30:42
Speaker 1: have to be careful to people who who you might
30:46
Speaker 1: consider your family or your loved ones or your best
30:48
Speaker 1: friends because they can be the first people to throw
30:50
Speaker 1: out the negative statements and throw out the blocks. So
30:53
Speaker 1: so when you when you when did you? When did
30:56
Speaker 1: you start developing these skills that I that I introduced
30:59
Speaker 1: you as directed and because all that comes into play,
31:02
Speaker 1: when do you start developing these skills? Um? You know,
31:07
Speaker 1: it was something I was always interested in, man. Um.
31:09
Speaker 1: You know, probably as early as high school. UM, I
31:12
Speaker 1: remember wanting to, uh, you know, kind of join like
31:16
Speaker 1: the radio and the TV club that they had and
31:19
Speaker 1: uh at my school. And you know, I major in
31:22
Speaker 1: the radio TV broadcast in college. So you know, I
31:25
Speaker 1: knew that. I knew. I always knew eventually whenever I
31:28
Speaker 1: got done playing sports, that you know, this would be
31:31
Speaker 1: my kind of long term career and it was just
31:34
Speaker 1: kind of a matter of what the approach might be.
31:37
Speaker 1: But yeah, I always always knew. Now that would I
31:41
Speaker 1: say all this so you you you're no longer playing
31:43
Speaker 1: professional football? You say you moved to Los Angeles? Now
31:47
Speaker 1: did you knew would established relationship or you moved out
31:50
Speaker 1: there just to you know, you say, man, this is
31:52
Speaker 1: where I was supposed to be. I gotta go and
31:54
Speaker 1: get my feet wet and start making it happen. Yeah.
31:58
Speaker 1: You know when when I was playing ball. UM actually
32:01
Speaker 1: came out to l A for the first time in
32:03
Speaker 1: like oh five when I was with the Bengals, and
32:05
Speaker 1: this radio personality that I worked with in Cleveland at
32:08
Speaker 1: the radio station out there. Basically I asked if I
32:11
Speaker 1: want to come out for the BT wards and just
32:13
Speaker 1: kind of hang out, and I was like, you know,
32:14
Speaker 1: this would be a good opportunity to kind of get
32:16
Speaker 1: eyes on, you know, the city and kind of see
32:19
Speaker 1: what it's like. And I just love that it was
32:21
Speaker 1: just all about production. You know, like the coffee jobs
32:23
Speaker 1: you got none but writers and they're writing scripts. Uh,
32:26
Speaker 1: you know, even the printing copy stores, you know, they
32:28
Speaker 1: offering discounts on head shots and script printing. And it
32:32
Speaker 1: just felt right. And I was lucky enough to meet
32:35
Speaker 1: a person who was a part of this program called
32:39
Speaker 1: street Lights, and street Lights is as nonprofit organization that
32:43
Speaker 1: kind of helps men and women of color get jobs
32:45
Speaker 1: as production assistance in the industry, like in mostly the
32:47
Speaker 1: commercial world. And um, basically, you know, I met her,
32:52
Speaker 1: we buy asked her she would kind of put me
32:54
Speaker 1: down as a reference that she did, and um, I
32:57
Speaker 1: applied to this program and I got in. And so
32:59
Speaker 1: when I moved down Hey, this was kind of like
33:00
Speaker 1: the only really relationship that I had coming out there.
33:05
Speaker 1: And I kind of came out here knowing that I
33:07
Speaker 1: was gonna be doing this like production assistant training program.
33:10
Speaker 1: And you know, as you know, production assistants like you
33:13
Speaker 1: do all the eye jobs like the moving to director's chairs,
33:17
Speaker 1: getting the talent out the trusting room, righting in the
33:19
Speaker 1: stage like stuff like that. But you know, it's a
33:21
Speaker 1: great opportunity to actually physically get all set and kind
33:25
Speaker 1: of see what everybody does and trying to figure out
33:27
Speaker 1: what it is that you may want to do for
33:29
Speaker 1: a living. You know, it's really important that you said
33:31
Speaker 1: that because you know a lot of people they have standards.
33:35
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna do that, you know, but
33:38
Speaker 1: but I I tell people when you as a as
33:40
Speaker 1: a production assistant on the set that I was called
33:42
Speaker 1: p AS and and so you get you get to
33:46
Speaker 1: really get to really get into some areas where you
33:49
Speaker 1: wouldn't normally get if you were just a producer because
33:52
Speaker 1: a king, you know. Plus you can like get into
33:55
Speaker 1: writer's rooms, you can ask productions, you can you can
33:58
Speaker 1: be you can sit down next to a direct actor.
34:00
Speaker 1: But you have to have your game plan. You know,
34:02
Speaker 1: you can't be annoying. You have to be a person
34:05
Speaker 1: that doesn't look too comfortable because a lot a lot
34:07
Speaker 1: of people they want to just sit down, you know.
34:09
Speaker 1: In other words, you almost got to be just be
34:11
Speaker 1: in the back of the room and blend in. And
34:15
Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't understand that. You always
34:17
Speaker 1: tell people in my life, I don't always and you
34:20
Speaker 1: might be the same way with you, Matthew. It's not
34:21
Speaker 1: about the financial opportunity. It's about the opportunity now, it's
34:25
Speaker 1: what you do with that opportunity that could lead to
34:28
Speaker 1: a financial opportunity. And and a lot of people understand
34:32
Speaker 1: that just getting in the door that he said that
34:34
Speaker 1: really clear. And that's why I try to make sure
34:36
Speaker 1: people who come on my show let them note the
34:39
Speaker 1: end results. You know, Black Plansman is the end result, okay.
34:43
Speaker 1: And and plus that's not his end d I shouldn't
34:45
Speaker 1: even say that. That's one of his accomplishments were all
34:48
Speaker 1: are aware of. But before that he would just be
34:51
Speaker 1: a you know, I mean. And that's the thing though,
34:58
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, sometimes when you come out there
35:01
Speaker 1: and you you kind of think you already know what
35:03
Speaker 1: you're doing, sometimes that can hinder you because, like you
35:06
Speaker 1: you may be closed off to kind of all these
35:09
Speaker 1: other opportunities, you know, and being a p A is
35:11
Speaker 1: just such a great way to just like literally spend
35:14
Speaker 1: a little time with every department kind of Okay, do
35:16
Speaker 1: I want to get in hair and makeup? Do you
35:18
Speaker 1: want to be a grip or electrician? You know what
35:20
Speaker 1: I mean? Like you really can kind of find your
35:22
Speaker 1: your your you know, whatever it is that you're trying
35:24
Speaker 1: to get into long term. You know, absolutely, so Matt,
35:27
Speaker 1: just talk about hair love. Okay. Um, yeah, like I said,
35:29
Speaker 1: I know, I have a daughter, all right, my wife.
35:32
Speaker 1: You know, Uh, I've done my attempts over the years.
35:37
Speaker 1: My daughter said, don't mess with my hair no more. Dad,
35:39
Speaker 1: please stop. Okay, that's not what you do. Okay, I
35:42
Speaker 1: love you, but leave my hair along. What was the
35:44
Speaker 1: motivation behind hair love? Well, you know, it was a
35:49
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, back and sit out in seventeen.
35:52
Speaker 1: I am, you know, very very active on social media,
35:54
Speaker 1: and I just really noticed this trend. I kept coming across, uh,
35:58
Speaker 1: all these videos of specifically African American fathers doing their
36:04
Speaker 1: daughter's hair, and you know, I always like trying to
36:06
Speaker 1: share a lot of family friendly content on my social
36:09
Speaker 1: media and it was just I was just noticing this
36:11
Speaker 1: trend to where every time I shared like a video
36:14
Speaker 1: of a mom interacting with their kids. You know, they
36:18
Speaker 1: would do well because a lot of times the videos
36:19
Speaker 1: were cute, but it was every time it was a
36:21
Speaker 1: black dad and a black daughter for a black dad
36:24
Speaker 1: and their kids, period, they always just like overperformed. And
36:30
Speaker 1: I just really just noticed, you know, it seemed like
36:33
Speaker 1: it was kind of this double edged sword because like,
36:35
Speaker 1: obviously the videos are very cute and touching, but I
36:38
Speaker 1: kind of learned that it was also because people weren't
36:41
Speaker 1: used to seeing black men depicted in this light, you
36:44
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, you know, we get all
36:46
Speaker 1: these negative stereotypes in the media, like for not around
36:49
Speaker 1: for our kids and you know, et cetera. And so
36:52
Speaker 1: them seeing like these dads that were taking the time
36:54
Speaker 1: to do their daughter's hair, it kind of felt like
36:56
Speaker 1: an anomaly. And for me, like I have a lot
36:58
Speaker 1: of I'm not a father yet, but I've lot of
37:00
Speaker 1: friends that are young fathers and there's not anomaly to them.
37:04
Speaker 1: You know, Like rent is expensive everywhere often now now
37:08
Speaker 1: how times you know both parents have to work, and
37:10
Speaker 1: so mom gotta leave earlier, gotta go out of town
37:13
Speaker 1: or something. You know, dad gotta step up. What do
37:15
Speaker 1: you want to do? What is your goal? You know
37:17
Speaker 1: we started we was a former NFL football player, was
37:20
Speaker 1: a former p A. Now you've got this hot animated
37:22
Speaker 1: project out there. You've executive produced The Black Plansman. What
37:26
Speaker 1: do you want to do? My friend? Um, you know,
37:29
Speaker 1: I'm kind of doing it now. You know. It's just
37:31
Speaker 1: for me and just continuing to create projects that kind
37:34
Speaker 1: of elevates and humanize black people, you know, um be
37:38
Speaker 1: that in any medium, be the animated, live action, TV
37:41
Speaker 1: or film. Um, you know I'm directing television now too.
37:45
Speaker 1: So I just did an episode of blackish'll be coming
37:48
Speaker 1: out around Valentine's Day. This big book, a big movie
37:52
Speaker 1: that hasn't been announced yet, but I'm really excited about.
37:55
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, trying to figure out a live
37:57
Speaker 1: acting feature as well. So you know, just can seam
38:00
Speaker 1: of working trying to reinvent myself. Man, that that's really
38:03
Speaker 1: the goal and the dream now the dream now the
38:07
Speaker 1: last o G that's you. Yeah. Yeah, I was a
38:11
Speaker 1: co producer and director on the show too, So yeah
38:15
Speaker 1: it was Matthew. Matthew, you need to stop being humble.
38:18
Speaker 1: There's a humble interview, Matthew. You there's a humble interview
38:21
Speaker 1: you know, you know you you got it going on,
38:25
Speaker 1: my man? You know comment. The reason I say that
38:28
Speaker 1: because you know I'm Hollywood. I went out to Hollywood.
38:32
Speaker 1: I know, you know when they buried all the sitcoms
38:35
Speaker 1: on W B and U p N. You know what
38:38
Speaker 1: I'm saying, where as used as a starter started kits
38:41
Speaker 1: and when I see you're in a you're in a
38:45
Speaker 1: a guy your talents are? Is that Hollywood at a
38:48
Speaker 1: good time? You know? Well, we could start telling our stories.
38:52
Speaker 1: When I look on when I look at TV commercials,
38:54
Speaker 1: I see I see interracial people on TV dating an
39:00
Speaker 1: insurance together, buying cars together. We're only a couple of
39:03
Speaker 1: years ago when a little black girl mixed or black
39:06
Speaker 1: girls went in the room for cheerio, they wanted to
39:09
Speaker 1: shut down cheerios. You know what I'm saying? That ain't
39:11
Speaker 1: that fall from that? And to be able to see
39:13
Speaker 1: stories that are being told by able Duvernet And if
39:16
Speaker 1: you hear this here, this right here, you're saying, you're
39:18
Speaker 1: comfortably saying I want to tell African American stories because
39:22
Speaker 1: you know now there's a demand or need, our requests
39:27
Speaker 1: for that type of confidence that has to make you
39:29
Speaker 1: feel good. Yeah, man. I mean I think you know, nowadays,
39:33
Speaker 1: like you know you're talking about back in the day
39:35
Speaker 1: with like the c W and the w B and
39:37
Speaker 1: UPN and all that. Like, you know, now there's so
39:40
Speaker 1: many more networks from places that are doing original content.
39:43
Speaker 1: So you know, it's just kind of like a byproduct
39:46
Speaker 1: of that, like the more outlets that need content, you know,
39:49
Speaker 1: the more opportunities that you know, black creators and creators
39:52
Speaker 1: of color are going to have to be able to
39:54
Speaker 1: tell their stories and you know, hopefully do them in
39:57
Speaker 1: a in a good way that you know makes their
39:59
Speaker 1: people look good. You know, I just want to continue that.
40:02
Speaker 1: You know, people like gabad Rene and Jordan's and James
40:05
Speaker 1: you know, are all kind of been mentors to me
40:08
Speaker 1: and people who are really uh just admire and want
40:11
Speaker 1: to follow their footsteps. So well, I'm telling something you
40:16
Speaker 1: you are a special talent if I can compliment you
40:19
Speaker 1: in that manner and you accepted. My wife Alwa tells me,
40:22
Speaker 1: I don't know why I say thank you when people
40:23
Speaker 1: compliment me because of the fact that some of the
40:26
Speaker 1: things I'm just doing what I love to do and
40:28
Speaker 1: you're doing what you love to do. Sometimes you don't
40:30
Speaker 1: understand that what you what. You have a unique talent
40:33
Speaker 1: and you're accomplishing things that are not normal. Yeah, no, man, no, definitely,
40:38
Speaker 1: you know you got me. Man, it's good. I appreciate
40:40
Speaker 1: your Matthew a cherry. We'll be right back with more
40:44
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41:34
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41:52
Speaker 1: one of the people renaissance people. I call it that
41:54
Speaker 1: because she's been able to reinvent herself a lot of people.
41:58
Speaker 1: I had a degree in mathematics and nothing side of
42:00
Speaker 1: the big stand up comic. If somebody asked me to
42:02
Speaker 1: do a math problem, either we're gonna start fighting because
42:08
Speaker 1: I don't know when you might call me. I thought
42:10
Speaker 1: you're to doree mad because I don't know I reinvented myself.
42:13
Speaker 1: That's not a life that I live now. This young
42:15
Speaker 1: lady right here on the phone. As a former engineer
42:18
Speaker 1: turned media personality in the area of technology and lifestyle.
42:22
Speaker 1: She has the technology contributed for ABC News, working on
42:25
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42:33
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42:37
Speaker 1: one of her loves, but she is most passionate about
42:40
Speaker 1: helping people become better digital citizen. She's on the shoulder
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42:46
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42:50
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42:53
Speaker 1: Stephanie Humphrey, Hello, Hello, it's so happy to be here.
42:58
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me first. For it's definitely
43:00
Speaker 1: been a long time since you've been on the show.
43:02
Speaker 1: And that's a good thing because you've been busy, and
43:04
Speaker 1: I've been so busy. You're you're regular on different shows
43:07
Speaker 1: and things like that. What and it's about It's about
43:10
Speaker 1: your brand, It's about putting the word out and maintaining credibility,
43:14
Speaker 1: what have you. What do you do to maintain credibility
43:17
Speaker 1: with your varce because that's a competitive space, it absolutely is,
43:21
Speaker 1: and I think you have to be consistent with content.
43:24
Speaker 1: You know, there there was that whole idea of content
43:28
Speaker 1: being king that was really popular a few years ago,
43:31
Speaker 1: and that is actually still the case. Content is king.
43:34
Speaker 1: So as you're utilizing these social media platforms, as you're
43:38
Speaker 1: utilizing your website or your blog or whatever, you have
43:43
Speaker 1: to consistently be pushing out content to people around your
43:48
Speaker 1: brand and your area of expertise. Now, that does not
43:51
Speaker 1: necessarily mean that you always have to be creating content,
43:55
Speaker 1: because that can get overwhelming, you know, trying to do
43:59
Speaker 1: videos every day, or or a podcast every week or
44:03
Speaker 1: whatever that looks like. But curating content it's just as
44:07
Speaker 1: effective as creating content. So I do a lot of both. Actually,
44:12
Speaker 1: So most days, most days of the week, Monday through Friday,
44:15
Speaker 1: I will curate content that I find on the Internet
44:19
Speaker 1: and push it out and get people's opinions on it,
44:22
Speaker 1: start conversations around it, drive engagement around technology topics that
44:27
Speaker 1: I think people might be interested in. But then once
44:29
Speaker 1: a week I actually create content as well through my
44:33
Speaker 1: sixty second Tech Break which comes out on Wednesdays, which
44:36
Speaker 1: gives people a actionable, relevant, little nugget of information that
44:41
Speaker 1: they can watch, learn and then go do something with.
44:44
Speaker 1: Now what what I'm assuming it comes out on social media?
44:47
Speaker 1: What platforms? Do you distribute across all platforms? Instagram, Twitter, Facebook,
44:53
Speaker 1: and LinkedIn? So I can share it on my Twitter account?
44:56
Speaker 1: Yes you can? Please? Do you say? Every Wednesday? Right
45:03
Speaker 1: comes out. He's a program director for money Making Conversations,
45:06
Speaker 1: So every Wednesday we're gonna start sharing her. M's a
45:10
Speaker 1: tech break, Yeah, on on social media because I'm always
45:16
Speaker 1: trying to you know, like I said, that's that's a
45:18
Speaker 1: part of quality content that you're talking about. Now let's
45:22
Speaker 1: talk about because I got a lot of people on
45:23
Speaker 1: the on my show talk about making that transition, and
45:27
Speaker 1: then every everyday people who are afraid to make that transition,
45:30
Speaker 1: afraid to walk away from that job. Fear just overwhelmed him.
45:35
Speaker 1: Like I tell people, you know, my degrees in mathematics,
45:37
Speaker 1: I work for IBM, and then I left IBM too
45:41
Speaker 1: become a comedian. I was already a comedian, but when
45:43
Speaker 1: you walk away from a full time job, you're becoming
45:45
Speaker 1: a comedian for really, that's right. I was just fooling.
45:48
Speaker 1: I'm just going on stage at night telling jokes. Just yeah, alright,
45:54
Speaker 1: that's all I want was fun that every show. I'm funny.
45:56
Speaker 1: But when I left IBM, I was a real comedian. Okay,
45:59
Speaker 1: I to find out how I was gonna get a
46:02
Speaker 1: regular check on a regular basis. Now, with that being said,
46:05
Speaker 1: you're a former engineer, what what type of engineer were you? Well?
46:08
Speaker 1: I was a systems engineer for Locke Martin, but my
46:11
Speaker 1: degrees were in electrical engineering and telecommunications and networking engineering. Already,
46:18
Speaker 1: is she making me feel my little math degree feels that?
46:22
Speaker 1: Trust me, I don't as hard as it wants me
46:27
Speaker 1: to get through calculus. I know, a math degree is
46:31
Speaker 1: a big deal. You make me feel good, Stefphani. But
46:35
Speaker 1: you know, there's the fun part about our life. Like
46:39
Speaker 1: I went from you know, math, IBM computers to being
46:43
Speaker 1: a comedian. Now you kind of still maintained your your
46:47
Speaker 1: your land of communication because you stayed the technology and
46:50
Speaker 1: lifestyle so so so I'm not saying that was but
46:54
Speaker 1: but but there is still a transition. So I asked you, Okay,
46:58
Speaker 1: how what did you get the car offinitse When did
47:00
Speaker 1: you get the belief did you could do this or
47:03
Speaker 1: even or did you just nurtured along like I was
47:05
Speaker 1: telling jokes at night, we'll use like building your brand
47:08
Speaker 1: before you made the leap. Oh? Absolutely, And I mean
47:11
Speaker 1: it really was nothing. But God, I can't take any
47:14
Speaker 1: credit for this because this wasn't something that I had
47:18
Speaker 1: always wanted to do and and finally had the courage
47:22
Speaker 1: or whatever to do it. And you know, I wasn't
47:24
Speaker 1: that little kid that you know used the hairbrush as
47:27
Speaker 1: a microphone and acted like a TV hose in my mirror.
47:31
Speaker 1: I didn't do any of that. Like I did not
47:33
Speaker 1: have any designs on being on television before I actually
47:39
Speaker 1: did it. And I just credited again to God giving
47:43
Speaker 1: me this vision and putting me in the right places
47:46
Speaker 1: at the right time to meet the right people that
47:49
Speaker 1: sort of encouraged it and planted those scenes and in
47:52
Speaker 1: my you know consciousness that hey, maybe I could actually
47:55
Speaker 1: you know, make this work. But but no, to your point,
47:58
Speaker 1: I absolutely my day jobs for a long time, and
48:03
Speaker 1: you know, work to work the program at night on
48:05
Speaker 1: the weekends, you know, late night, early night. You know,
48:08
Speaker 1: at one point I was working with QVC that's a
48:10
Speaker 1: twenty four hour UH station, so I might be there
48:14
Speaker 1: at to thirty in the morning and have to go
48:15
Speaker 1: straight into work or or whatever that whatever that looked like.
48:19
Speaker 1: But yeah, you definitely, you know, hold onto your to
48:22
Speaker 1: your paycheck for as long as possible and and get
48:25
Speaker 1: your plan together and save your money and and figure
48:28
Speaker 1: out how you're going to maintain your lifestyle or what
48:31
Speaker 1: has to change about your lifestyle. That's the one thing
48:33
Speaker 1: I don't think people understand. Some things are going to
48:35
Speaker 1: have to change about your lifestyle when you make this transition.
48:39
Speaker 1: At least at first, you know, you're gonna have to
48:42
Speaker 1: cut back on some stuff. You're gonna have to you know,
48:44
Speaker 1: maybe that vacation every year, I ain't gonna happen. Uh,
48:47
Speaker 1: So you have to think about what that all is
48:49
Speaker 1: gonna look like and put that plan in place before
48:52
Speaker 1: you just jump ships. And more importantly, what I what
48:55
Speaker 1: I tell people is that eight hours because over a
48:59
Speaker 1: four the hour week gives your discipline to say, I
49:01
Speaker 1: go to work at the here, I get off for five.
49:03
Speaker 1: When you make that jump, there is no eight hours
49:06
Speaker 1: that's right there. You know. In fact, you know people
49:09
Speaker 1: will ask you. I know because they asked me, all,
49:11
Speaker 1: what do you what did you do today? And I
49:13
Speaker 1: look at them going, um, you know, because I have
49:17
Speaker 1: I'll squinch. I was working. I was working. If you
49:25
Speaker 1: want details, now, I need to think about what my
49:28
Speaker 1: next move is and that requires time and work. And
49:33
Speaker 1: you need to be quiet for a minute and maybe
49:36
Speaker 1: go take a walk or go to the gym. I
49:38
Speaker 1: get all my good ideas of the gym. So you
49:40
Speaker 1: know that's work too. Let's talk about that. You know,
49:42
Speaker 1: always hold a financial talk to the end, hold my audience,
49:46
Speaker 1: you know, hold my listenership. Here. You have three apps
49:49
Speaker 1: here that have to improve your finances and twenties called
49:52
Speaker 1: mint Acorns and Robin Hood talked to us about those
49:55
Speaker 1: three apps. Start with is an overall budgeting app. It's
49:59
Speaker 1: gonna you can you can attach all of your accounts
50:02
Speaker 1: to your bank accounts and if you have an investment
50:04
Speaker 1: accounts and things like that. But it's gonna give you
50:06
Speaker 1: that overall picture of where your money is going, because
50:10
Speaker 1: you cannot get your finances on track until you know
50:13
Speaker 1: where your money is going, so it will help you budget.
50:16
Speaker 1: You can actually pay your bills through that app. You
50:19
Speaker 1: can connect your you know, your light bill account, your
50:22
Speaker 1: cable account, lots and stuff, pay your bills through the
50:24
Speaker 1: app and just keep track of where your money is going.
50:27
Speaker 1: So Men is a really really great, easy to use,
50:30
Speaker 1: comprehensive tool for that. Then you get to Acorns. Now
50:34
Speaker 1: this is where you start saving money. Acorns is going
50:37
Speaker 1: to allow you to round up, so any of the
50:41
Speaker 1: purchases you make with your bank card, it'll round that
50:44
Speaker 1: purchase up to the nearest dollar and take that those
50:47
Speaker 1: few pennies you know, whatever it is and put it
50:50
Speaker 1: into an investment account and a savings account. So you know,
50:53
Speaker 1: if you if you don't feel like you have enough money,
50:55
Speaker 1: are you're not making enough money just yet to start
50:58
Speaker 1: putting aside five of a month or or whatever you
51:02
Speaker 1: can put it. You could put a quarter aside, you
51:05
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, you're not even going to
51:06
Speaker 1: miss it if you spend you know, six dollars and
51:09
Speaker 1: seventy two cents, that that extra thirty cents or twenty
51:13
Speaker 1: seven cents, twenty eight cents, you're not gonna miss that.
51:15
Speaker 1: So why not just let that money start making, start
51:18
Speaker 1: working for you and and saving it without having to
51:21
Speaker 1: think about it. Let me let me just interrupt there
51:23
Speaker 1: right quick, you know, because that's I have a jar
51:27
Speaker 1: in my house, and so when I get changed, I
51:30
Speaker 1: just throw it in that jar, I just throw it
51:32
Speaker 1: in that job, right, and it's and it's a fish bowl.
51:34
Speaker 1: It's like a little baby fish bowl. And so so
51:37
Speaker 1: I decided to just take some of it because you
51:40
Speaker 1: can go to the stores and they then go this
51:42
Speaker 1: little machine and change it out right, thanking you how
51:45
Speaker 1: much money it is I had, I just some of it.
51:48
Speaker 1: It was like a thousand dollars just solve that could
51:52
Speaker 1: have been money earned an interest somewhere. But I'm just
51:54
Speaker 1: letting you know what you're saying, it's absolutely true because
51:57
Speaker 1: you're talking about round up change. I was taking change change,
52:00
Speaker 1: but instead of just leaving it in this fish bowl,
52:02
Speaker 1: you're talking about investing in building interest, compounding along the way,
52:08
Speaker 1: which I'm delaying. Everybody knows that there's a lot of
52:10
Speaker 1: people do what I do. Just take change and just
52:12
Speaker 1: throw it in the corner, just take chaining and just
52:14
Speaker 1: let it just sit there, and then open up a drawer.
52:16
Speaker 1: You got change in the bottom of the drawer, and
52:18
Speaker 1: you push it all the one corner and then you
52:20
Speaker 1: get it out and go, I got some Hamburger money.
52:23
Speaker 1: You know, stuff like that, and so so so so.
52:27
Speaker 1: So that's a good way of modernizing an old habit
52:30
Speaker 1: where it can be financially beneficial to you. Call that's
52:34
Speaker 1: called acorns. That's called acorn. That's gonna guess to take
52:37
Speaker 1: those Take that little bit of change, but it's somewhere
52:40
Speaker 1: where it can grow. And then robin Hood is once
52:44
Speaker 1: you get to the point where you're actually ready to
52:46
Speaker 1: do some some serious investing and and building a portfolio.
52:51
Speaker 1: Robin Hood allows you to trade stocks for free, so
52:54
Speaker 1: you can buy and sell shares of any stock on
52:58
Speaker 1: the stock exchange for free. It's a it's just a
53:01
Speaker 1: really easy way to um to get involved and get
53:05
Speaker 1: engaged and get started because you know a lot of
53:08
Speaker 1: stocks you don't have to start off with. You know,
53:10
Speaker 1: Apple stock that costs a thousand dollars a share. You
53:13
Speaker 1: can start off with with real estate investment trust stocks
53:16
Speaker 1: that only cost sixteen dollars a share or something like that.
53:19
Speaker 1: So you you start small and you build, and they're
53:22
Speaker 1: actually they're they're they're actually introducing the idea of buying
53:27
Speaker 1: fractional stocks. So it's the same the same way that
53:30
Speaker 1: Apple costs a thousand dollars. Maybe I can't buy a
53:33
Speaker 1: full share right now, but I got twenty dollars, so
53:35
Speaker 1: let me start building towards the time when I can
53:39
Speaker 1: buy a full share of Apple or or Amazon or
53:42
Speaker 1: Google or whatever. So, um, it's just a great way
53:45
Speaker 1: to get involved in the stock market. It has tons
53:47
Speaker 1: of information that helps you, helps you do your research
53:50
Speaker 1: on the stocks that you're thinking about, and um, and
53:53
Speaker 1: then just kind of get involved, because that's that's how
53:55
Speaker 1: you're gonna build that wealth. You know, just get the paycheck.
53:58
Speaker 1: You know, unless you plan on being this EO, just
54:00
Speaker 1: getting the paycheck may not do it for you, and
54:03
Speaker 1: probably won't do it for most of us. You know,
54:05
Speaker 1: people build well through stock purchases and through the stock market.
54:09
Speaker 1: Warren Buffett got rich in the stock market. He ain't
54:11
Speaker 1: get rich because he saved you know, his pennies and
54:13
Speaker 1: his fish bowlt so. And so you want to start
54:17
Speaker 1: thinking about uh, you know, start thinking about that, and
54:20
Speaker 1: this is the way to do it that is not
54:23
Speaker 1: is not high risk for you because you don't have
54:25
Speaker 1: to spend a ton of money, and you don't have
54:27
Speaker 1: to spend money per transaction because once you start going
54:30
Speaker 1: to those uh price Waterhouses and and Goldman Sacks and
54:35
Speaker 1: and and those bigger companies, they charge you every time
54:38
Speaker 1: you want to buy or sell a share of stock.
54:41
Speaker 1: Robin Hood doesn't do that. So it makes it takes
54:43
Speaker 1: away the barrier to entry for people that will want
54:46
Speaker 1: to get into the stock market. Meant a cars and
54:48
Speaker 1: robin Hood, these are absent people can utilize and manage
54:52
Speaker 1: and improve their finances. And I love if you want
54:55
Speaker 1: to meant you know, it's awesome acorns. You know I
54:58
Speaker 1: just talked about that. I just need to upgrade my program,
55:01
Speaker 1: stop throwing money in the jar and start putting it
55:03
Speaker 1: in the bank or something. With this software that you
55:05
Speaker 1: have out that Robin Hood. You know, I started out
55:08
Speaker 1: buying stock to you know, discount brokers like Charles Swab.
55:11
Speaker 1: You know they charged me fees and you're talking about
55:13
Speaker 1: it was discount, right. That's what I'm just letting everybody know.
55:17
Speaker 1: You know, now you're talking about you, I can still
55:19
Speaker 1: invest and grow my brand through that. It's just amazing
55:22
Speaker 1: what the information you always give out to us on
55:24
Speaker 1: a data basis this time, Stephanie, I do want to
55:27
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