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BIDEN ADMIN says "everything is safe in East Palestine"; Resident Says "They're Coughing up Blood!" · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Coughing up blood. That is what East Palestine residents are
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  Speaker 1: now saying about their health conditions after this toxic derailment
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  Speaker 1: that happened in East Palestine and the White House refusing
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  Speaker 1: to deal with it. Now they're acting like they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: show up and actually do something. But when your symptoms
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  Speaker 1: are coughing up blood and no one seems to care,
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  Speaker 1: imagine how angry you would actually be. Now Mayor Pete
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  Speaker 1: is now coming out and saying, this is the head
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  Speaker 1: of the Transportation I should have spoken out sooner about
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  Speaker 1: how strong we have felt about East Palestine derailment. Why
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  Speaker 1: didn't he do it? Well, let's be clear, they're not
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  Speaker 1: focused on it. Why because this is an area that
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  Speaker 1: voted over seventy percent for Donald Trump. In other words,
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  Speaker 1: screw you. Take a listen to part of what he
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  Speaker 1: had to say with CBS News finally doing an interview
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  Speaker 1: about the Ohio train derailment and the environmental crisis that
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  Speaker 1: is clearly happening there. But is there anything that the
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  Speaker 1: Transportation Department could have done sooner to avoid this from
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  Speaker 1: happening in the first place. Well, our personnel, we're on
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  Speaker 1: the ground within hours of this incident, but I do
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  Speaker 1: think that every rail incident calls the question on how
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  Speaker 1: we can strengthen the regulation of rail safety in this country. Now,
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  Speaker 1: that is something that the rail industry has fought, but
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  Speaker 1: that we have been raising the bar on since we
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  Speaker 1: got here and will continue to do. Look, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: the crew staffing rule or whether it's the regulations around
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  Speaker 1: the strength of the tanks containing the material that transits. Again,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to get ahead of the ntsb s
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  Speaker 1: finding on some of the specific root causes in this incident,
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  Speaker 1: but we know enough to know that it's long pasttime
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  Speaker 1: to continue the work of raising the bar on rail safety.
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  Speaker 1: We're continuing our work on that. We're asking Congress, especially
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  Speaker 1: since there seems to be some new found bipartisan interest
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  Speaker 1: in doing something to untie our hands and make it
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  Speaker 1: possible for us to do more. And it's amazing about
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  Speaker 1: this response for Mayor Pete is he's acting like he's
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  Speaker 1: being held back when he's literally the guy that's in charge.
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  Speaker 1: He's acting like his hands are tied, when for the
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  Speaker 1: first two years of this administration he had the House,
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  Speaker 1: the Senate, in the White House all in the hands
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  Speaker 1: of Democrats. There's not Republicans holding him back. He's acting
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  Speaker 1: like he doesn't have the ability to go to the
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  Speaker 1: site of this crisis in some capacity because well, I
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  Speaker 1: just can't get there right now, or I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to go there right now because I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: distract people. So let's go back to the spitting blood comments,
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  Speaker 1: throwing up blood, coughing up blood. The Transportation Secretary is
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  Speaker 1: now saying, at least, okay, maybe I should have been
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  Speaker 1: more compassionate on the front end. They're now trying to
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  Speaker 1: rewrite history, and a lot of this is because Americans
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  Speaker 1: are furious that they're sending all this money and going
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  Speaker 1: to an active war zone in Ukraine and putting the
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  Speaker 1: people in Ukraine ahead of American citizens. Tucker Carlson had
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  Speaker 1: on his show individuals that are having major health problems
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  Speaker 1: clearly directly tied to this toxic fallout in Ohio, an
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  Speaker 1: administration that's refusing to do anything about. Now they are claiming,
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  Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna make the train company pay for
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  Speaker 1: the cleanup. Why didn't you say that at the moment
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  Speaker 1: this happened. Why didn't you show up at the moment
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  Speaker 1: this happened. Listen to their story, Your picture taken. When
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  Speaker 1: I go, it will be about action on real safety. Now, that's,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, Mayor Pete's last closing argument he's been
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  Speaker 1: making over the last twenty four hours. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not just going for a photo op. He said, it's
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  Speaker 1: in good morning, America. I'm going to get something done.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going for cleanup. When are you going? I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: like he's literally saying, I don't know, But when I go,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be serious. It's not gonna be a photo op. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: your administration just the the ultimate photo op with fake
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  Speaker 1: air raid sirens and UKN with Zelenski. It made for
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  Speaker 1: a movie moment. So so you do you really want
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  Speaker 1: to distinguish yourself from photo ops? Right now, it's a
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  Speaker 1: pretty bad look. So let'sten to what's happening to the
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  Speaker 1: actual people in East Palestine. If there's any member of
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  Speaker 1: the Biden administration he deserves to lose his job immediately.
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  Speaker 1: It's that guy. Nathan and Kelly Isotic are in East Palestine.
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  Speaker 1: They live there. We talked him a couple of days ago,
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  Speaker 1: and since we spoke, they tell us they've been coughing
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  Speaker 1: up blood. So we want to get an update from
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  Speaker 1: the Nathan and Kelly joined us. Now, thank you both
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  Speaker 1: for coming on. Nathan first, to you coughing up blood? Yes, Tucker,
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  Speaker 1: it was days after the incident, and that's it would
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  Speaker 1: have been the Sunday, and I woke up in a
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  Speaker 1: very horrific coughing spell, almost like a bronchitis or pneumonia type.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't know if it was just from
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  Speaker 1: the coughing fits or what, but spats of blood did
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  Speaker 1: appear that night and a few days later, obviously we
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  Speaker 1: evacuated town. It resided and went away, but that was
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  Speaker 1: one of the side effects. How how old are you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thirty now, just turned thirty February sixteenth. Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 1: no doctor, but you should not be coughing a blood.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to speak to a doctor in a minute.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you what you know, but that's
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  Speaker 1: not a good sign. Kelly, how are you feeling? The
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  Speaker 1: headaches are horrible. They pretty much when I'm about three
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  Speaker 1: to four miles outside of town they start, and as
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  Speaker 1: long as I'm within a few miles of the crash site,
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  Speaker 1: I've got headaches, really bad headaches, migraines. Has anyone tried
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  Speaker 1: to explain to you why you might be having these symptoms. Well,
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  Speaker 1: if we're talking the Ohio doctor Fauci's, we can go
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  Speaker 1: and you know they're going to try to point it
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  Speaker 1: towards having COVID related symptoms. But we obviously know that's
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  Speaker 1: not the case. Yeah, no, that's not the case. Coughing
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  Speaker 1: up blood is on it is not. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: a valid COVID symptom at this point. How does it smell?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we have a sense of smell for a reason.
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  Speaker 1: The nose knows that. You know, there's truth in that.
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  Speaker 1: How does your town smell? I mean it's it's still blatant,
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  Speaker 1: even your cameraman here. That's one of the first things
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  Speaker 1: I asked him was, you know, do you do you
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  Speaker 1: smell what's smelling outside? And he says, yeah, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: it's a sweet odor. Um. It smells terrible. And again
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  Speaker 1: it's it's more towards the evening when it's more prominent. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I hate to ask you about money, but I can't resist.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what about homeowners in East Palestine, Like you've
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  Speaker 1: got to think that their home values are bottoming out ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody is ever going to purchase a home that has
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  Speaker 1: these Palestine in the in the address. I mean this
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  Speaker 1: is this has definitely made our value plummet Are you
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  Speaker 1: are you homeowner? Yes, we are home us sir man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. The future yeah, the future isn't right. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: your health and your wealth in may Oh yeah, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really sorry. But we appreciate the update from both
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  Speaker 1: of you tonight. Nathan Kelly is add thanks. These are
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  Speaker 1: not people wanting to get on TV for any reason.
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  Speaker 1: with all this going on? So let's get a response
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  Speaker 1: from Mayor Pete. What's Mayor Pete have to say about this? Well,
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  Speaker 1: here's what he said to NBA or excuse me, CBS News,
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  Speaker 1: And I just have to ask, because it did take
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  Speaker 1: you a couple of days to respond publicly, or several
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  Speaker 1: days to respond publicly to this particular incident, do you
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  Speaker 1: wish you would have spoken out sooner? Yes, I was
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  Speaker 1: focused on just making sure that our folks on the
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  Speaker 1: ground were all set, but could have spoken sooner about
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  Speaker 1: how strongly I felt about this incident. And that's a
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  Speaker 1: lesson learned from me. All Right, mister secretary, thank you
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  Speaker 1: for that. That's it. Thank you for that. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: ask you a tough question, let you kind of run
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  Speaker 1: away from it, and then it's fine, right because it's
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  Speaker 1: spoken out sooner. Now, why are you not visiting right
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  Speaker 1: this community? Here's what he says, because I'm I'm focused
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  Speaker 1: on action, not politics, not on a show. It's been
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  Speaker 1: two weeks since this derailment. When is the time right?
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  Speaker 1: So I'm planning to go and when I do, it
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  Speaker 1: will be focused on action, not on politics, not on show.
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  Speaker 1: In the early days, I have been respecting the role
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  Speaker 1: that the independent NTSB plays and staying out of their way.
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  Speaker 1: But we are now entering the policy phase of our
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  Speaker 1: response to this, and even as NTSB continues finalizing their work,
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  Speaker 1: this is the right time for us to be looking
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  Speaker 1: at immediate steps from the USDOT. Do you think the
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  Speaker 1: President should visit? Look? Right now, I'm focused on making
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  Speaker 1: sure that we have the tools that are needed on
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  Speaker 1: the ground to respond to this. You've got EPA there,
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  Speaker 1: You've got our departments supporting the ntsp's work there. You've
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  Speaker 1: got the CDC Home Health and Services there to look
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  Speaker 1: after the health side, and we've got to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that that agency response continues. I know the President cares
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  Speaker 1: a lot about what's happening there, He's spoken to me
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  Speaker 1: about it, and we are going to continue doing everything
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  Speaker 1: we can to make sure this community is not left behind.
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  Speaker 1: And you've already left him behind, dude, like you've already
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  Speaker 1: done that. And the fact that you say we're planning
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  Speaker 1: on going but won't tell us when you're going. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm about action here. You need to understand this is
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  Speaker 1: about action to me. Okay, So what action are you
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  Speaker 1: going to actually bring to the people. Well, let's move
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  Speaker 1: to another disaster in our government. This is the EPA.
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  Speaker 1: Michael Reagan is the director right in charge of the EPA.
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  Speaker 1: The Environmental Protection Agency is literally supposed to do exactly
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  Speaker 1: that protect you when they're environmental disasters and from environmental disasters.
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  Speaker 1: They've thrown him out there now, not doing this interview
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  Speaker 1: in Ohio instead doing it from Washington, DC, and the
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  Speaker 1: federal government now is actually pointing the finger one admitting
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  Speaker 1: there there's an environmental crisis there right, Well, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: that's comforting the people that are literally coughing up blood,
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  Speaker 1: but then saying we're gonna hold the private sector accountable
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  Speaker 1: for it because it somehow isn't the fault of the
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  Speaker 1: US government, and we're not the ones that you should
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  Speaker 1: be mad at. Instead, you should be mad at Norfolk Southern,
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  Speaker 1: the railway that had the train that derail. That's their
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  Speaker 1: fault and they need to pay, not us. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to do one degree of separation. Listen to this and
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  Speaker 1: tell me if you're coughing up blood, if anything you're
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  Speaker 1: about to hear from the EPA administrator is comforting to you,
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  Speaker 1: really important, because what you're saying is there is always
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  Speaker 1: a possibility the contaminants can exist somewhere that has not
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  Speaker 1: been tested, and you need to really be careful. I'm
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  Speaker 1: hoping that the state or the federal government pays for
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  Speaker 1: those tests. Is that something that's going to happen. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: Yesterday's announcement will ensure that Norfolk Southern pays for the
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  Speaker 1: mess that they've created, and so we are encouraging everyone
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  Speaker 1: seek medical attention, ensure that the state and local health
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  Speaker 1: agencies understand those experiences. Because as we force Norfolk Southern
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  Speaker 1: to take full accountability for what they've done, Norfolk Southern
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  Speaker 1: will pay for everything and anything that we do. Norfolk
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  Speaker 1: Southern will reimburse us. They are the ones that cause
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  Speaker 1: this mess. They're the ones that are going to clean
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  Speaker 1: up and fix this mess. Let me tell ask you
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  Speaker 1: how that's going to happen. What have you done so
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  Speaker 1: far as the EPA administrator and the EPA at large
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  Speaker 1: to push Norfolk Southern to do all of the things
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  Speaker 1: that you just mentioned to take responsibility. Yesterday's announcement sort
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  Speaker 1: of laid out the fact that we are transitioning from
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  Speaker 1: an emergency response phase, which was led by the state
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  Speaker 1: with EPA supporting the state, into a cleanup, a longer
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  Speaker 1: term cleanup phase. What I an noow, using my legal authority,
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  Speaker 1: we can hold Norfolk Southern accountable. Number One, they will
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  Speaker 1: clean up every single piece of debris, all of the
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  Speaker 1: contamination to EPA specifications and satisfaction. Number two, they will
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  Speaker 1: pay for it fully, pay for it at any moment.
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  Speaker 1: If we have to step in because they refuse to
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  Speaker 1: do anything, we will do the cleaning up ourselves. We
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  Speaker 1: can find them up to seventy thousand dollars a day,
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  Speaker 1: and when we recoup our total cost, we can charge
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  Speaker 1: them three times in the amount of the cost of
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  Speaker 1: the federal government. That is what the law provides for me.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna use the full extent of our oversight and
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  Speaker 1: enforcement to hold Norfolk Southern accountable. And they have to
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  Speaker 1: design a very specific work plan that's approved by EPA.
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  Speaker 1: So we're going to make sure that every single step
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  Speaker 1: is included, no stone is left unturned, because the fact
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  Speaker 1: of the matter is they cause this trauma to the
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  Speaker 1: community and we're going to make sure that they pay
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  Speaker 1: for it. Last question, You and I have traveled around.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: I have met up with you in places like Mississippi,
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: West Virginia on the water issue in this country and
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: the thing that keeps coming up over and over and
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  Speaker 1: over again. Is trust trust amazing that CNN would actually
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  Speaker 1: say that, right, No one trust you. That's the problem here.
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  Speaker 1: How can anyone trust you in this scenario? You know?
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  Speaker 1: Mayor Pete admits, Look, I'm in a mistake. I could
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  Speaker 1: have spoken out sooner. Right, That's the only mistake he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna admit to, Not that there's a major disaster, a
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  Speaker 1: toxic disaster, the turning people's lives and could kill people,
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  Speaker 1: cause cancer, and god knows what else he's saying. I
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  Speaker 1: could have spoken out sooner. That's my only mistake so far. Well.
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  Speaker 1: To be clear, our department was on the ground within
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  Speaker 1: hours helping with the response and the investigation. Again, I
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  Speaker 1: respect the separate role than TSB, but we have been
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  Speaker 1: on the ground literally from day one to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that we're doing our part to support I do think
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  Speaker 1: that it's important to speak out about that, and I
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  Speaker 1: could have spoken out sooner, and I'm making sure that
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  Speaker 1: we are focused on the actions that are going to
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  Speaker 1: make a difference. There. You go, that's your government. You've
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  Speaker 1: got a massive problem, You've got a derailment. All this
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  Speaker 1: is happening there, and he's like I could have spoken
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  Speaker 1: out sooner. Right, that's it. Residents are saying that they're
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  Speaker 1: coughing up blood, and he's saying our government is saying
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  Speaker 1: the official person in charge, Hey, I should have spoken
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  Speaker 1: out sooner. EPA saying, not our problem, Northern Southern's problem.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna make them pay. And the EPA chief, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, the Ohio governor, they want you to know
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  Speaker 1: everything's good because they actually drank a sip of the
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: tap water to prove to you did everything somehow. Okay,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: listen to this crap. A lot of people here doing,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of people focus on working. That makes us
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  Speaker 1: feel better. But it will, it will continue. It will.
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  Speaker 1: No stone will be left on turning. The testing of
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  Speaker 1: my house, somebody testing. Yeah, we're talking absolutely, we're here
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  Speaker 1: to do that. Man, there it is. We're just gonna
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: drink some water here, right, I'm the governor and I'm
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  Speaker 1: here at this terrainment, this this train derailment side, and
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna sip it real quick so you
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  Speaker 1: know it's safe. And then after that we're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: the hell out of here because we know it ain't safe.
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  Speaker 1: But we did. We did a photo op here, and
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  Speaker 1: then the same administration's like, we're not doing photo ops.
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  Speaker 1: While they're saying they're not gonna do photo ops, the
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  Speaker 1: president's doing fake air sirens in Ukraine and they make
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: him look strong for a photo op. Ha. I mean,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: this is all they do is photo ops. This cleanup
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: strategy and I'm talking about the pr strategy and the
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  Speaker 1: actual cleanup of this toxic derailment site is a disaster
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: on so many different levels because so much of the
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: damage has already been done and now it's just come
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: down to finger pointing. And really, I would argue bullying
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  Speaker 1: now from the federal government. If you live in this area,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: your property values have gone down. I don't even know
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  Speaker 1: how much you know that. The cleanup has not been
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  Speaker 1: done quickly enough. So the contamination of the ground, the
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  Speaker 1: drinking want everything, it's really soaked in there. The government
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: two weeks later comes out and says clean up your mess.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: The EPA acting again like they're strong leading two weeks
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  Speaker 1: late ordering Norfolk Southern to fix the toxic derailment site.
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  Speaker 1: They send out an official press release on this. Two
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  Speaker 1: weeks late, US Environmental Protection Agency has ordered Norfolk Southern
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  Speaker 1: that's the Little Railcar System right, the company that was
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  Speaker 1: pulling this train on Tuesday, two weeks after it happens,
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  Speaker 1: to pay for the cleanup and restitution or the toxic
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  Speaker 1: East Palestine, Ohio train wreck site. The demand comes just
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  Speaker 1: days after the TSA Secretary Mayor Pete's and a letter
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  Speaker 1: to the coming CEO outlining his quote, disappointment and the
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  Speaker 1: response to date. In other words, every complaint you have
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  Speaker 1: against me and my response, I'm going to now put
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: in a letter to the CEO of the train company
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  Speaker 1: so I can then blame them, and I say, see,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: it's not my fault. You shouldn't be mad at me,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: you should be mad at them. This is called shifting
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the blame the pr game. Speaking to reporters Neil near
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  Speaker 1: the deralment site, the Associated press Is also report that
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  Speaker 1: the Norfolk Southern CEO, Alan Shaw, promised to do all
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: within his power to ensure the long term health of
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: the community and become a safer rail road. Now, a
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: couple of things about this. I don't believe that these
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  Speaker 1: companies have it in our interest to clean up afterwards.
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  Speaker 1: I think they have it in their interest to do
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  Speaker 1: the bare minimum. I don't believe that they care about us.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe that they want to fix this problem.
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  Speaker 1: I think they look at this as a financial liability
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  Speaker 1: and we're going to do whatever we can to quickly
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: move this forward. You know, there's also an arrogance factor here.
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  Speaker 1: This was on CNBC where the Norfolk Southern CEO said,
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  Speaker 1: in his words okay, that he'd bring his children to
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  Speaker 1: the area because it's safe. When you hear that people
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  Speaker 1: are coughing up blood, this is when I say to
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  Speaker 1: Alan Shaw, I don't believe you. This has been a
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  Speaker 1: traumatic experience. And all the taxology reports, all the testing
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: shows that were clean. However, if folks are experiencing symptoms
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: with which they're not accustomed, I would strongly encourage them
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  Speaker 1: to go see a trusted medical professional. Pine was your home.
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  Speaker 1: Would you have come back? Would you bring your children
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  Speaker 1: back right now? Yes? Yes, I've come back multiple times.
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  Speaker 1: I've drinking the water here, I've interacted with the families here.
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  Speaker 1: But I know they're hurt. I know they're scared. I
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: know they're confused. They're looking for information and who to trust.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I encourage them to ask questions. I think when they
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: really dig into it, they're going to see that all
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  Speaker 1: the testing, whether it's done by the EPA or local
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  Speaker 1: health officials or our independent contractors, show that it's safe
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  Speaker 1: to return to the community. And my commitment to this
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: community is we will continue with the environmental remediation. We've
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: made a lot of progress and we're cooperating and coordinating
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  Speaker 1: with the Ohio EPA on a long term remediation plan.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to continue our financial assistance to the residents
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  Speaker 1: of this community. So far, we've either reimbursed or committed
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: six point five million dollars to this community, and we're
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: working with the local officials here. I just don't trust them.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Six point five million and local money to the community.
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  Speaker 1: We're working with local officials here. As you put it, great,
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  Speaker 1: it's wonderful. But to say that you would stay there
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  Speaker 1: and have your kids there and look to drink one
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: glass of water is one thing. To bathe them this
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: water and drink it every day as your only source
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: is completely different. And we all know that. And two
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: weeks late, they're like, oh, well, now it's your fault.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: You've got to clean it up, right, We're gonna blame
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  Speaker 1: the other guy for this. I've drinking the water. Look
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: would I go there as a pr stunt and drink
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: this water. If I'm one of these guys, of course
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  Speaker 1: and that is I expect the government to come in
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: and to not trust corporations to do what's best for community.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Mayor Peach should have been there on the ground sooner.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: The governor and elect officials should have just immediately assumed
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: that they were lying on everything. And if they're not lying, great,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: but let me let you hear what. The pen Ssylvania
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Governor Josh Shapiro said his office has now actually made
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: a criminal referral in the Ohio train derailment. This after
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the Ohio Governor Dwine has signaled at a news conference
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: in Ohio is now preparing to take legal action as well. Now.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: The Pennsylvania governor said this that his office has made
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: a criminal referral in response to recent train derailment over
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: the border in East Palace and Ohio, because he says
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: it's the after effects of the environment and the nearby
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: communities are going to affect his state in Pennsylvania. This
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: is how the Pennsylvania governor put it at this press conference. Listen,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: he's furious and actually handling this. I would argue the
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: right way. My administration will remain vigilant for any threats
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: to Pennsylvanians, and we will hold accountable Norfolk Southern, the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: company that made this vigilance necessary. The combination of Norfolk
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Southern's corporate greed, incompetence, and lack of care for our
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: residence is absolutely unacceptable to me. I've been outspoken about
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: the serious concerns that I had with the company's failed
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  Speaker 1: management of this crisis. They chose not to participate in
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: the unified command, they gave us inaccurate information and conflicting
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: modeling data, and they refuse to explore or articulate alternative
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: courses of action when we were dealing with the derailment
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: in the early days. In some Norfolk Southern injected unnecessary
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: risk into this crisis, and they created confusion in this process.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: In the face of Norfolk Southern's arrogance and incompetence. I
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: want you to know we are fighting back. We stand
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: with the good people of Pennsylvania and Ohio, and we
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: stand with them against this corporate greed and incompetence. We
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: stand against this corporate greed and incompetence. At least somebody's
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: admitting this. Does that, by the way, sound like anything
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: that you're hearing at all from our president? No? Does
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: that sound like anything that you're hearing at all from
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the Transportation Secretary mayor peat? No. And the reason why,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I think it's pretty damn clear. They don't care about
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: the people. They care more about the optics. They don't
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: care about these people because they voted for Trump. They
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: don't care about this problem because they'd rather talk about Ukraine.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: They don't care about these people because and proves the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: fact they go to Ukraine before they go to deal
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: with this issue there. The president of the United States
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Americas should have gone there. Hell, Donald Trump's gone there,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: so and be like, oh, he's a photoop. No, he's
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: actually trying to bring attention to it. He's running for president.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: He's doing what a president should do right now, right,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that's the truth here. I don't
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: understand how people can't see this and understand this. I
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: really don't. It's very very very very very clear to
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: me that they don't care. And if they did care,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: they would have done this differently. You know. Mayor Pete,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: by the way, coming in is not a big distraction.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: May Or Pete should have been one of the first
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: guys on the ground when when this happened they knew
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: how bad it was. Mayor Pete within days should have
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: been there and having meetings and making sure that everything
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: that and again, some of this is just optics, so
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: you know you have somebody on your side, so that
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: you know you have somebody on your team. That's the truth, right,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I mean that's really the truth here.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And when no one's showing up from the federal government
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: the highest levels, then you start asking yourself, are they
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: on the take? Are they are they a part of
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: this cover up? Are they down playing us because they
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: don't want to deal with it. What is the logic
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: and the reasoning behind what they're doing here? And you
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: can hear it in all of these clips that we
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: played for you today, right again, the governor here, you know,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: this is an issue of corporate greed, incompetence and lack
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: of care for a residence is absolutely unacceptable. He is
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: correct in saying that. And when you have a Norfolk
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Southern CEO like, oh, I'd bring my kids here, Sure
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I would your home. Would you have come back? Would
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: you bring your children back right now? Yes? Yes. These
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: are the meaning most ridiculous questions that the media asks,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: because of course, you know what the answer is going
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: to be. There. Talk about the residence whose homes are
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: in the direct area around this derailment. What has that
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: done to their property values? Can we talk about that?
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: If you're a property owner, all right, you think you're
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: gonna be able to sell this property anytime soon? No,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: are you gonna have to take a loss? If you
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: need to get out of your house now or in
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the next six months and the next year, yes, you
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: were gonna have to do that. That's going to happen.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Never forget how many corporate disasters there have been. Never
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: forget how many cover ups there have been. Never forget
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: how many. Go back and watch Aaron Brockovitch the movie
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: right like Don't Trust look At Look At There was
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: another movie about the about how DuPont was knew that
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: they had poisoned at community, knew that people were dying,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: knew that people were having birth defects, and they didn't care.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: They kept going with it. Why did that happen? We
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: all know why it happened. Corporate greed. You can't put
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: people in prison, right, You can't put people in jail CEOs.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: It never happens. When these things happened. They pay fines.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: It's not even their real money, right, It's okay, yeah,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: they may miss a bonus. But I think we all
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: agree with my point here. Corporate greed through and through,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: that's what we witness, That's what we see. That is
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: what happens. I don't trust these people. And now you've
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: got to ask your some other questions. The government in
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: on it too. This is incompetency by the Biden administration
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: yet again. This is a disaster of the Biden administration
• 31:27
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