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FINALLY SOME TRUTH: "We can't vaccinate the planet every four to six months", says Oxford Professor who helped make the vaccine! · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We can't vaccinate the planet every six months. That is
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  Speaker 1: what a man has said an Oxford vaccine scientists who
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  Speaker 1: actually helped come up with the Oxford astra zeneca COVID
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  Speaker 1: nineteen vaccine. That is a headline you will not hear
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  Speaker 1: with bad reviews. This leading expert who helped create the
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  Speaker 1: Oxford astrosenca COVID nineteen vaccine said the giving everyone in
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  Speaker 1: the world a booster shot multiple times a year is
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  Speaker 1: not feasible. Quote, we can't every six months. We can't
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  Speaker 1: vaccinate the planet every four to six months. We just
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  Speaker 1: can't do it. It's not sustainable and it's not affordable.
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  Speaker 1: He said, Professor Andrew Pollard, the director of the Oxford
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  Speaker 1: Vaccine Group and the head of the UK's Committee on
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  Speaker 1: Vaccination Immunization, did this sounded the alarm? In a Daily
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  Speaker 1: Telegraph interview, Powoud also stressed the need to target the
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  Speaker 1: vulnerable going forward, rather than administering doses to everyone ages
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  Speaker 1: twelve and older doesn't make sense. He says more data that.
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  Speaker 1: He also said his need to ascertain quote whether when
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  Speaker 1: and how often those who are vulnerable in the additional doses.
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  Speaker 1: Powart also said he thought further evidence was needed before
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  Speaker 1: offering a fourth COVID shot to people in the UK.
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  Speaker 1: So this is a guy who actually helped create the
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  Speaker 1: astra Zeneca, the Oxford astra Zeneca COVID nineteen vaccine, and
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  Speaker 1: he is a doctor as an expert with vaccines, is
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  Speaker 1: now saying we need further evidence before offering a fourth
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  Speaker 1: COVID nineteen shot to people in the UK, which is
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  Speaker 1: obviously where he is. That would mean we need further
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  Speaker 1: evidence before offering a fourth COVID shot in the United
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  Speaker 1: States of America, or for that matter, anywhere in the world.
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  Speaker 1: The UK is doing exactly what we're doing here in America.
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  Speaker 1: They are rolling out their third shot, the booster shot.
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  Speaker 1: They're doing it though at a higher age group than
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  Speaker 1: we are doing in America. They're only doing it to
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  Speaker 1: help the people eighteen older, in other words, adults. They
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  Speaker 1: have added at risk people sixteen and older to that list,
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  Speaker 1: but only if you are at risk meaning autoimmune deficiencies,
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  Speaker 1: things like that. How strongly does this leading expert who
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  Speaker 1: helped create the Oxford Astrosinica COVID nineteen vaccine feel about
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  Speaker 1: the alarm that he's sounding. Not only did he do
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  Speaker 1: a tell all interview with a Daily Telegraph, but he
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  Speaker 1: did a separate interview with Sky News. And in that
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  Speaker 1: separate interview with Sky News, Paula also cited the glaring
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  Speaker 1: unevenness of vaccine rollouts across the world is one of
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  Speaker 1: the big problems. He said, and again this is the chair.
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  Speaker 1: He is the chair of the j CVI. He is
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  Speaker 1: a professor, a senior professor, And he said COVID currently
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  Speaker 1: poses a low risk to most people who have been vaccinated. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this interview is an interview that the whole world should see,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a reason why they don't want you to
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  Speaker 1: see it. In fact, he said something that the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the sky is falling. World wants to make sure
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  Speaker 1: you don't hear and what is that? It is this
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  Speaker 1: He said that COVID risk is low now for most people.
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  Speaker 1: Let me say that again. COVID is now low risk
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  Speaker 1: for people. Now. I've got part of this audio and
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  Speaker 1: I want to play it for you of this interview,
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  Speaker 1: because it's that important that people hear the truth from
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  Speaker 1: a guy who helped create the vaccine as he has said. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: they're getting it wrong. I know because I helped create
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  Speaker 1: this and this is going too far and we need
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  Speaker 1: to slow down. Director of the Oxford Vaccine Group and
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  Speaker 1: Chairperson of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunization, Professor
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  Speaker 1: Sir Andrew Pollard. Great to talk to you today at
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  Speaker 1: Sir Andrew, It's been an extraordinary twelve months, hasn't it,
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  Speaker 1: in the life of both COVID and the Astra Zeneca vaccine.
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  Speaker 1: What have we learned? Well, I think it as you say,
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  Speaker 1: it's been a quite extraordinary a year that we've just
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  Speaker 1: been through. From this time last year when we were
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  Speaker 1: just starting rollout of vac scenes with a lot of
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  Speaker 1: uncertainties still about how long it would take it to
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  Speaker 1: start to bring the pandemic under control. But I think
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  Speaker 1: on that day last year, I certainly felt that that
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  Speaker 1: was the beginning of the end of the pandemic. Clearly,
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  Speaker 1: as the year's gone on, we've seen the most remarkable
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  Speaker 1: rollout of vaccine's not just the Oxford vaccine, of all
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  Speaker 1: of them around the world, with now around nine billion
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  Speaker 1: doses that have been distributed, and the most incredible impact
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  Speaker 1: on the pandemic, so that we're in a very much
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  Speaker 1: better place today than we were. We're today, we're very
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  Speaker 1: large numbers of cases in the community, but still very
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  Speaker 1: good control of severe disease as a results of vaccination.
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  Speaker 1: They've been extraordinary. Are you worried they we're becoming a
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  Speaker 1: little complacent. No, I don't think we are being complacent
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  Speaker 1: at all. Actually, I mean we're today in a situation
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  Speaker 1: where there's very good monitoring, much better than it was
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  Speaker 1: before globally, trying to understand how best to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that everyone in the world is protected as well as
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  Speaker 1: is possible. And now we're in this new period of
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  Speaker 1: transition to work out now that there's very high levels
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  Speaker 1: of immunity in countries like ours, how do we transition
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  Speaker 1: to a situation where society is open and we maintain
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  Speaker 1: protection of the vulnerable in the population. And that is
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  Speaker 1: the programs that have been happening over the last few
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  Speaker 1: months with the doses being given and trying to manage
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  Speaker 1: the number of cases so that the NHS is protected.
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  Speaker 1: But as we go forward into the year ahead, working
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  Speaker 1: out better how to live with the virus is going
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  Speaker 1: to be the critical next up. Did you notice what
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  Speaker 1: he just said there? We have to learn how to
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  Speaker 1: live better with the virus. He is conceiving that we're
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  Speaker 1: not going to beat COVID anytime soon. And this is
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  Speaker 1: a guy that came up with a vaccine. This is
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  Speaker 1: the guy that's creickly giving medical advice, not advice based
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  Speaker 1: on financial profit. This is why people don't want you
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  Speaker 1: to hear this interview. This is why they don't want
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  Speaker 1: you to see this interview. This is why last night
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  Speaker 1: on the mainstream media, right after this guy talked, I
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  Speaker 1: immediately turned on the news to see if anybody was
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  Speaker 1: covering this, and nobody was. Nobody was covering this because
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  Speaker 1: this is the conversation that none of them want to have.
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  Speaker 1: He's conceding that the truth is the reality is we
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  Speaker 1: need to start taking care of the most vulnerable among
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  Speaker 1: us first and figure out the science about how to
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  Speaker 1: most best protect them. That we need to stop this idea,
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  Speaker 1: this insane that if everybody gets vaccinated, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: get some sort of heard immunity from this. Because he
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  Speaker 1: said the world will never get there. He's saying, it's
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  Speaker 1: foolish to think that we can vaccinate the entire world,
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  Speaker 1: which is the only way to control this. And if
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  Speaker 1: you don't believe me, look at where this started in
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  Speaker 1: a Wuhan lab of virology, and then it got out
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  Speaker 1: of that lab, and now the entire world has been affected, infected,
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  Speaker 1: and the entire world's population has had death and destruction.
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  Speaker 1: Look at where when you have omicron, where it started
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  Speaker 1: right South Africa, where we serve at first, all this
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  Speaker 1: pop look out quickly the rest of the world got it.
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  Speaker 1: Delta variant. The list goes on and on, and I
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  Speaker 1: may have gotten that wrong with delta omicron. I apologize.
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  Speaker 1: You get my point. These things keep popping in one place,
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  Speaker 1: they spread the world faster than we even know it's spreading,
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  Speaker 1: and then once we figure out that it's spreading a
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  Speaker 1: new variant, it's too late. Can you shut down a
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  Speaker 1: lockdown the entire world, and definitely no. Can you take
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  Speaker 1: away people's freedoms and definitely forever that's the goal of
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  Speaker 1: this government, clearly under Biden. But his point is no.
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  Speaker 1: And he's saying it because it's medical. He's saying this
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  Speaker 1: because he's a a man that understands vaccinations, and he's
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  Speaker 1: saying it's impossible to do this. This This is a
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  Speaker 1: guy who helped make the Astroxenica vaccine. Take a listen
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more of what the processor had to say,
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  Speaker 1: just saying, I'm tired of this unrealistic behavior in the world,
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  Speaker 1: the unrealistic idea that we can vaccinate everyone worldwide and
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  Speaker 1: somehow beat this thing. We got to worry to live
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  Speaker 1: with it. You mentioned third dose, or of course Country
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  Speaker 1: Light Israel, they're already doing fourth doses. Do you foresee
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  Speaker 1: a position where we are going to be pretty much
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  Speaker 1: getting jabbed every six months or so. Well, it's just
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  Speaker 1: not from a global perspective, affordable, sustainable, or deliverable to
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  Speaker 1: give fourth doses to every on the planet every six months.
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  Speaker 1: And remember that today a less than ten percent of
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  Speaker 1: people in low income countries have even had their first dose,
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  Speaker 1: So the whole idea of regular fourth doses globally is
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  Speaker 1: just not sensible. Now. It may be that as the
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  Speaker 1: science of oles that we can work out who the
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  Speaker 1: most vulnerable are in populations and target future booster to
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  Speaker 1: those individuals to maintain their protection. But for the vast
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  Speaker 1: majority of people who are vaccinated, the risk now is
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  Speaker 1: extremely low of severe COVID those who have had three doses,
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  Speaker 1: and it's likely that we'll reach a point where we're
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  Speaker 1: focusing those booster doses on those who most need them,
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  Speaker 1: And of course at this moment, we don't know what
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  Speaker 1: that looks like. Does that mean that we need updated
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  Speaker 1: vaccines each year like we do with flu, we just
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  Speaker 1: use the same vaccines for boosters. We need more data
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  Speaker 1: to make those decisions. And in terms of those who
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  Speaker 1: haven't had vaccinations, there has been a lot of misinformation
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  Speaker 1: out there. How frustrating is it for you, as a
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  Speaker 1: scientist who's been hugely involved in the science of vaccination
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  Speaker 1: all your life to see some of the stuff that
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  Speaker 1: is repeated, usually online, And what impact do you think
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  Speaker 1: this has had? Has it actually caused people to die
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  Speaker 1: who might not have died, Well, there's no doubt that
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  Speaker 1: anything which makes people uncertain more hesitant about being vaccinated,
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  Speaker 1: particularly those who are invulnerable groups, that puts their life
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  Speaker 1: at risk. And we've definitely seen the effects of some
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  Speaker 1: parts of the commentary, some of the misinformation, which have
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  Speaker 1: had a major impact on people's confidence in vaccination. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, this may be the guy that I trust
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  Speaker 1: the most right now with COVID nineteen seriously, because he
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  Speaker 1: seems to be being incredibly intellectually honest about the vaccine,
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  Speaker 1: the power of the vaccine, the limits of the vaccine.
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  Speaker 1: And he's the guy that helped make the vaccine, the
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  Speaker 1: Oxford astros in a vaccine. This is a guy that's
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  Speaker 1: been doing vaccines his entire life. It's his life's work.
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  Speaker 1: When he just said misinformation is bad and explains it
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  Speaker 1: the way he's explaining it, I'm okay with it. I
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  Speaker 1: like that we have a doctor that helped create the vaccine.
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  Speaker 1: It's saying you have to understand the vaccine is not
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  Speaker 1: a silver bullet. Now, it's very clear we have to
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  Speaker 1: learn to live with this. We need to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that we are protecting and taking care of the most
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  Speaker 1: vulnerable with autoimmune and other things like that. Autoimmune issues
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  Speaker 1: we need to take care of the elderly. That needs
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  Speaker 1: to be our focus. We need to do what we
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  Speaker 1: can for those that do need help. In these ways,
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  Speaker 1: he's not trying to sell you more vaccines. Now. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if he has any financial stake or interest
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  Speaker 1: in the AstraZeneca COVID nineteen vaccine based on the way
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  Speaker 1: he's talking. Even if he does, he doesn't seem to
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  Speaker 1: care because he's not saying that we need boosters the
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  Speaker 1: fourth time. He's saying, we need to do some research
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  Speaker 1: after the third one. And you heard what they were
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  Speaker 1: talking about in Israel. Israel has got one of the
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  Speaker 1: highest vaccination rates, if not the highest, in the world.
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  Speaker 1: It's not working there either, folks. And what I mean
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  Speaker 1: by working is it's not like they're getting rid of COVID.
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  Speaker 1: COVID is still alive and well, unfortunately in Israel. Because
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  Speaker 1: we are a global economy and everybody knows it. We
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  Speaker 1: are a global economy. And as long as people can fly,
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  Speaker 1: as long as people can go from city to city,
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  Speaker 1: state to state, country to country on a regular basis,
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  Speaker 1: which is exactly what we are witnessing, then this is
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  Speaker 1: what is going to continue to happen. You are going
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  Speaker 1: to see new variants and they're going to spread, and
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  Speaker 1: many times they will spread before we even know it
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  Speaker 1: is spread to different cities and states, and once that happens,
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  Speaker 1: it's game over. I cannot tell you how refreshing this is.
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  Speaker 1: I cannot tell you how happy it makes me that
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  Speaker 1: we are hearing somebody who is a medical expert in
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  Speaker 1: the medical community saying this. I cannot tell you how
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  Speaker 1: amazing this moment is. And there is a reason why
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  Speaker 1: the White House and the reason and why the media
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  Speaker 1: is not covering this. This should be breaking news worldwide,
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  Speaker 1: breaking news. One of the dudes that made one of
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  Speaker 1: the vaccine that at Oxford asters in, an expert and vaccinations,
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  Speaker 1: is saying, pump the brakes on a fourth shot. We
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  Speaker 1: need research. He's sounding the alarm that the idea that
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  Speaker 1: we can vaccinate our way out of this problem every
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  Speaker 1: four to six months is impossible. He's saying it is
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  Speaker 1: not sustainable. So we need to learn to live our
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  Speaker 1: lives with this. By the way, I'm in favor of
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  Speaker 1: misinformation being called out as misinformation. I know a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people personally that are not getting vans because of
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  Speaker 1: videos by people claiming to be doctors online that are
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  Speaker 1: actually not doctors right there, they're chiropractors. They refer to
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  Speaker 1: themselves as doctors. And videos online that have been sent
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  Speaker 1: around to people, and I know people are like, well,
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  Speaker 1: there's a group of doctors and they're all dcs. They're
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  Speaker 1: all chiropractors, never been in medical school a single day
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  Speaker 1: in their life, many of them not even taking science
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  Speaker 1: classes in their entire life. I love chiropractors. I go
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  Speaker 1: see one, but they're not doctors. They're not medical doctors.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have an MD, they didn't go to med school.
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  Speaker 1: And the fact that people get and that's misinformation. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. And I think that is what
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  Speaker 1: he's talking about. Now here's the other thing about this guy.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine if we had a guy like that
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  Speaker 1: giving out this country about the vaccine what it would do.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine instead of doctor Fauci and Collins and
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  Speaker 1: all these others, imagine if that was the guy leading
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  Speaker 1: the charge. I can't, I cannot imagine how many more
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  Speaker 1: people would have vaccine if we had someone as level
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  Speaker 1: headed as this guy instead of his polarizing, in psychotic
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  Speaker 1: as doctor Fauci is. I think America and the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the world right now is begging for honesty when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to vaccines. They're begging for honesty from those
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  Speaker 1: that understand what's going on with COVID. They're begging for
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  Speaker 1: some level of transparency. We're not getting that from the
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  Speaker 1: United States government right now, and we need it. The
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  Speaker 1: people that are not getting vaccinated are dug in in
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  Speaker 1: this country, I think on politics more than anything else.
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  Speaker 1: They're not making a medical decision any longer. They're making
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  Speaker 1: a political decision, and I understand why, because the left
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  Speaker 1: to put them in a corner. And when you corner
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  Speaker 1: an individual or an animal, what do you do? You
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: start to fight back. When you started using words like
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  Speaker 1: mandates and you started saying you can't participate in society
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  Speaker 1: unless you do what we tell you do, you corner
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  Speaker 1: people and they immediately come out fighting, and it's no
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  Speaker 1: longer about the premise of the argument. It's about you're
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  Speaker 1: fighting because you cornered me. Listen to this professor, Sir
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Pollard, a guy who created COVID nineteen Oxford ASCLNICA vaccine,
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  Speaker 1: and you listen to the way that he talks about
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  Speaker 1: COVID and let's just recap it. Imagine what could change
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  Speaker 1: in this country if this guy was our fauci. Imagine
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  Speaker 1: if this guy was put on national TV in America.
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  Speaker 1: Look at what he's selling you right now. Number one,
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  Speaker 1: the vaccine does help you against serious illness. Number two,
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  Speaker 1: the vaccine is on a silver bullet. Number three, I
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  Speaker 1: don't believe we need to be just unlimited boosters, and
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  Speaker 1: we need to do some real research before we advocate
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  Speaker 1: for a fourth. Number four, we really need to talk
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  Speaker 1: about those that are the most vulnerable, and we need
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  Speaker 1: to start looking at that way. Number five, it is
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  Speaker 1: impossible to vaccinate the entire world every four to six months.
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  Speaker 1: And the most important thing he said so far is
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  Speaker 1: we have to learn to live with us. And what
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  Speaker 1: that means to me is we have to realize that
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  Speaker 1: this idea that we locked down every time there's a
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  Speaker 1: spike is insane. It's unrealistic. It is impossible. That's what
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  Speaker 1: this dude is saying. That's what he is telling you.
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  Speaker 1: It is absolutely impossible to accomplish this goal of vaccinting
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  Speaker 1: the world. It is impossible to think that every time
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  Speaker 1: something pops that we can just run out there and
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  Speaker 1: arbitrarily somehow fix this. We can't do it. It's not possible.
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  Speaker 1: So we need to go back to living our lives.
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  Speaker 1: We need to be careful and responsible, but we don't
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  Speaker 1: need to shut down our lives. We've been trying it
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  Speaker 1: for two years. He also is admitting a level of defeat,
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  Speaker 1: which I think is amazing to admit because it's an
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  Speaker 1: important one. We are not going to beat this thing.
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  Speaker 1: The world's too big, we are too interconnected, and we
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  Speaker 1: are not going to beat it. We have to learn
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  Speaker 1: to live with it. We're not going to declare victory
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  Speaker 1: over it. We're not going to have a day where
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  Speaker 1: we say we eradicated at any time soon. That to me,
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  Speaker 1: gives me more hope than anything Fauci's pushing right now,
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  Speaker 1: because this is at least an honest Take a deep
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  Speaker 1: breath and relax. I now know the real new normal.
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  Speaker 1: I now know what reality is. I now feel like
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  Speaker 1: someone is finally being honest with the world, and he's
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  Speaker 1: one of the guys that made the vaccine. Principality is
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  Speaker 1: it's another type of virus that spreads very readily around
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  Speaker 1: the world. Is there anything you have done differently now
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  Speaker 1: looking back over the last twelve years, because yes, you've
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: been involved in vaccines all this time, but it's been
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: unlike anything else in terms of the scale what I
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: can do. I mean, major role in twenty twenty was
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: in vaccine development, and I think the one thing that
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I would have liked to have been able to do
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: differently would be to run much larger clinical trials. And
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: we couldn't do that, partly because the human resources required
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: to do that that we needed at the time, but
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: largely just we didn't have the manufacturing capacity to make
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: enough doses to run larger trials. And the reason why
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: that's so important is if we could have done that,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: we may have had a vaccine a month or two earlier.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: And with ten thousand people dying every day at the
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty, it really shows you if you
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: can just make a few weeks difference to shave off
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: the time it takes to develop VAC and you can
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: save many lives around the world. And so I think
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: that for me is the biggest thing that if we
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: were starting this again, would be to find ways of
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: actually having more doses, to run larger trials and get
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: an answer quicker during the course. For the last year.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think that we have to we should shy
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: away from the problem that we've had from a global
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: community despective, which has been timely vaccination of vulnerable people everywhere.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Millions of people have died during twenty twenty one because
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: they weren't vaccinated before Big got disease, and many of
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: those people died because it didn't have access to the
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: equable distribution of vaccines is the other thing which I
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: think we really need to think about how to address
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: not just for future pandemics, but even today in this pandemic,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: to make sure the people are protected everywhere. Well. By
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: the way, the point he's making here, because he's saying
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I made mistakes. We made mistakes. I wish we would
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: have done this differently. I wish we would have done
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: that differently. This is someone that I can tell has honesty,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: has integrity, and is willing to admit that there are
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: things that we got wrong, which, by the way, expected
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: people to get things wrong. I expected there to be
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: things that we could do differently. There's first time we've
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: ever faced as something like this in my lifetime. No
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: one was going to get everything right. All the countries
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: that have done definitely none of them COVID based on
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: the fact that's still here and still prevalent in their countries.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: But he's admitting that there are things that we did wrong.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: But one of the things he's saying is, look, we
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: got to do a better job of getting the vaccine
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: out to the entire world population. Because if you think
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: you're going to be safe in America because you get
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: everybody vaccinated, or Israel or any other country or the UK,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: while the other parts of the world have no protection,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be the ones they're gonna give you a
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: new variant which we're not going to be able to fight. Right.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Where did the last one come from? South Africa? Where
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: how many people were talking about they needed more vaccines there.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: They need to get more people vaccinated, right, They needed
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: to get vaccinated, They needed to get vaccinated, and they
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: and we didn't have enough vaccines going to that part
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: of the world because there wasn't enough money to justify
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: sending it there. Right, We wanted to send it to
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: a place where we got a lot of cash, and
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: we got a lot of cash. We made it. We
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: got a lot of money. We made a lot of money.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: We got a lot of cash. This vaccine is a moneymaker.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not against people making money, but when you're purposely
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: and deliberately not sending vaccines other parts of the world
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: because they don't have as much money as you have,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: you got to start looking and scratching your head on
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: that one too. Have we heard any major health official
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: with the United States government say we got it wrong.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Here's another headline for you. He lies all the time.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Doctor Robert Malone torches Anthony Fauci claims he has quote
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: no integrity viriologists an immunologist, Doctor Robert Malone made it
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: clear this week that he was not shocked to see
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: doctor Fauci present Joe Biden's chief medical advisor making claims
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: about the efficiency of cotton or surgical mass that he
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: did not believe were true. Malone was recently booted from
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Twitter and make claims that he was promo quote misinformation
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: about available COVID nineteen vaccines, particularly those that utilize the
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: mr NA technology he worked to develop, and he joined
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Fox News host Laura Ingram Monday's broadcast of The Ingram Angle.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Ingram began with a question about Malone's exile from Twitter,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: noting that Congresswoman Jaya Paul, a Democrat from Washington, had
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: said over the weekend that Twitter's efforts to silence misinformation,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: and particularly the platform's permanent man of Congressman Major Taylor Green,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Republican from Georgia, were steps in the right direction, but
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: not enough. Doctor Malone, where is his country going when
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: an elected official seems to be celebrating a silencing of
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: other Americans? She asked, I think you said it. There
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: will be a big turnaround mid terms. Where the country
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: is going is where Joe Rogan just went from Twitter together,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Malone replied, and that media doesn't understand that unders is
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: that you can't suppress information. It will find a way
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: to be free. And we're having new You know, this
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: is an example of the positive aspect of American economy
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: and innovation. We've had all this suppression and yet we persist.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: People don't tolerate this type of censorship and propaganda that
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: is being pushed on us. He's right Ingram then asked
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Malone to weigh in on a clip from Seeing Him
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Say the Union, during which host Dana Bashi asked doctor
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Fauci about the efficiency of cloth or surgical masks, particularly
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: with regard to the most recent and highly contagious omicron variant. Quote,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: are cotton and surgical masks effective at preventing the spread
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: of omicron? Bashi, asking Fauci, said that they were. Yeah,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: when the CDC says they are effective, In fact, they are,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Fauci responded Ingram turned back to Malone, asking whether Fauci's
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: claims had been a lie, and he said that it was. Quote,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's Tony. What can I say? Tony has
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: no integrity, He lies all the time. And I've me
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: and my peers have been watching this for decades. Malone said.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: We just shrug our shoulders and shake our heads and
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: say it's Fauci now in in ninety five mask tightly
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: fitted to the surgeon's face or the health provider's face,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: A tightly fitted mask that can prevent transmission of virus
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: is correct. But who can wear a tightly fitted medical
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: grade mask? Certainly not a two year old on a flight. Yes.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: And the thing is with omicron is that it has
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: a reproductive coefficient. And that is fancy medical epidology talk.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: But it's a reproductive coefficient, which is a measure measure
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: of ineffectiveness. It's in the range of measles. It's in
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: the seven to ten range. We are all going we
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: are all going to get infected. Probably the only ones
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: that won't some degree of symptoms from this in the
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: United States are going to be those that have natural immunity,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: and still a fraction of those are going to get
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: infected as well. Now this doctor is saying exactly what
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the doctor who came up with this Oxford astrogenica vaccine saying,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: We're not gonna stop this. We need to learn to
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: live with it. Stop telling the people in the world
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: and stop giving them this lie that if you get
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: vaccinated and boosted that somehow we're gonna beat this thing.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have to learn to live with it. Please
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: take our podcast and share it so that other people
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: can hear this. Because once we all get our head
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: around this idea that this thing is here and it's
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: going to be here for a long time, and that
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: we're not going to vaccinate our way out of this,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: and you start talking honestly about omicron and every other
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: variant that's coming, and you talk about this idea that's
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: impossible to fix this with boosters every four to six months,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: that this is not feasible from the guy who helped
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: make the vaccine. The faster we're gonna learn to live
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: with this, and the faster we're gonna learn to deal
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: with it in a way that makes sense and doesn't
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: destroy society. Please make sure you share this with other people,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: all right. I gotta also transition to something else that
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: is really important that I want you to hear about,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: and that is the Billback Better Plan, and also this
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: debacle with testing and having lack of COVID nineteen tests
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: for people in this country. Joining me now to talk
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: about this a man that's been fighting the Billback Better
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Plan because it's nothing but a waste of trillions of
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: your tax dollars. And also, we passed a bill I
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: want to remind you that was supposed to deal with
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: COVID and was supposed to deal with testing. So the
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: question now is why didn't we have enough tests us?
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Senator Bill Haggerty joins me now to talk about all
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: of this. Senator, the good news is that's coming out
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: right now is that Senator from West Virginia, Democrat Joe
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Manchin looks to be standing firm and saying he's going
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: to kill the Billback better plan. He actually said, quote,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: it is deader than ever. Your thoughts on his statement, Well,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: it certainly seems to be dead right now. The negotiations,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: particularly according to Mansion, are dead in the water. You know,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: when people have had the opportunity to stand back and
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: look at this. And I'll take you then all the
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: way back to August when I stopped the so called
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: infrastructure bill. They tried to pass that in the dead
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: of night. They're going to let us find out what
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: was in a twenty seven hundred page bill after we
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: passed it. That's the way Chuck Schumer wants to manage
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: things in the center. Let's pass it to find out
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: what's in it. But as the American public has at
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to find out what the Democrats are really
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: planning to do, they've turned out to be very very
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: obset with the Democrats plan. Their vision for America is
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: so different than the Republicans vision for America. Republicans want
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: to put Americans and control their lives and control of
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: their families. The Democrats want to put the federal government
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: full of everything, and they want to use the irs
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: to basically run our lives. As the public found out,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: what was in this build back better vill They found
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: it's not paid for. It's going to add three trillion
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: dollars more to the US deficit. That's when you take
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: out all the budget gimmicks that they're using to change
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: the top line number. What the American public got to
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: see was again more Democrat cookery, pouring fuel onto a
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: burning fire. When you look at the inflation that we're
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: talking about, they want to put this debt fuel package
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: right into the economy. We got an inflation now at
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: a forty year high, and they want to put more
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: federal money into the economy. This all started when Biden,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: you know, when they pushed the March so called COVID
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: relief package back in March at one point nine trillion
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: dollar package with zero Republican votes. They shoved that into
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: the economy. At the time, the economy was already improving,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and they set off this massive inflation. That's that's hurting
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: every American right now. So the public has had an
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: opportunity to see what's in it, and and I think Joe
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Mansion is right. I think the negotiations are as dead
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: as they can be. And as the public has found
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: out about this stuff, isn't back in home districts. I
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: think a lot of Democrat lawmakers got to get an
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: earful of that. Women went home over Christmas. I was
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: gonna say, usually when you go home over Christmas, if
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: you're a congressman or center, you go back, you do
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: a couple events. Right, You've had an excuse not to
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: do as many events because of COVID nineteen and omicron surge.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: But you're still hearing from people, and it's very clear
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: that Democrats are very fearful. And I don't want to
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: become over confident. I always tell people that's the worst
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: thing you can do getting ready for an election. But
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: it does look like the Democrats are certainly in serious trouble,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: just with another the number of resignations from Congress and
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: seeing Democrats like Joe Mansion West Virginia that are like, dude,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I can't do this. Like this is people are not
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: gonna go with this. My constituents are gonna have I'll
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: have hell to pay. Sorry, Joe Biden, this is not
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: gonna help me keep my job or help me get reelected.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: And you need to understand this. So now you have
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: phase two, and phase two seems to be well, we'll
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: just slam this thing down your throat piece by how
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: do we stop that? Well, I think there's a very
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: good chance that they will attempt that. But again, these
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: policies are so poorly drafted. They are avoiding the normal
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: process in the Senate, which would force them to go
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: through a committee that's designed as a full staff to
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: vet these proposed laws, to vet this legislation and to
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: make certain they are unintended consequences. Instead, what they're going
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: to try to do is probably break it up and
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: again shove it through this completely partisan way where it
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: gets drafted in the basement of Chuck Chumer's office, not
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: through the normal process of the Senate. We have yet
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: to see any text on the Republican side of this.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Build back better. We're just trying to draw it out.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: What happened over in the House of Representatives. This is
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the way they've been operating. Again, pass it to find
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: out what's in it, and I think they're going to
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: have the very same problems, even if it's in a
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: small dose. But we're going to have to be when
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I say, wait, the Republicans here are going to have
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: to be ever diligent to stand up to fight this,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: to push back at every turn, and not to let
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer use the calendar and other gimmicks to sort
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: of shoved this through in the dark of night. I
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: want to move to something else real quick, and that
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: is you had this abmission, this you know, moment right
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: before the end of the year where Joe Biden said
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: that it's the federal government is not going to solve
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. There was a lot of conservative commentators that
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: celebrated that moment, and I said, screamed very loud on
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: the show, do not take that bait. I think what
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden understood is one thing. If you let states
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: do what we're trying to do, they're going to be
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: more successful on the state level with extreme lockdowns, vaccine mandates,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: vaccine passports, taking away kids' rights, forcing vaccines on children
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: to be able to go to school or be able
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: to be eligible for extra crickear activities. And I said
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: to people, this was not a dumb play by Joe Biden.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I think he was signaling to the states, you guys
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: need to take this further than I can, because I'm
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: going to keep getting slapped down by the court system.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: But you guys will have more success like places like
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: New York City and San Francisco and others. I think
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: this is far from over. Democrats going for ultimate power
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: and control over literally owning your children like they are
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: government property in schools. Then I think you're exactly right.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: And if you go back to well before the Afghanistan crisis,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden had already said this wasn't the realm for
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: the federal government. He knew it before he forgot it
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: when his numbers went in the tank after the disgrace
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: in Afghanistan and they put this mandate out. It certainly
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: did work. It changed the news attention. The headlines moved
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: away from Afghanistan and that crisis to the federal lockdown.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: But I think they've known for a long time that
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: the federal government doesn't have the solution to this, And
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: you're exactly right. This is the way America is designed
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: to work, the laboratories of the democracy in our fifty states.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: That's certainly the way we like things in my home
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: state of Tennessee, and we've done a good job managing
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: our states. That's why so many people are moving to
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Tennessee from these blue states have such disastrous policies. But
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I think you're also exactly right. But they will continue
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: to try to show their leftist policies through in these
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: blue states and that they're better equipped to do it.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Just as you said. Then, at the state level, Joe
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Biden has also blamed now states trying to act like
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: it's not his fault that we have a massive amount
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: of COVID nineteen testing shortages. He's now blaming states for
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: not having enough tests at first schools, and he said
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: that look, if your school is experiencing corona testing coronavirus
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: testing shortages, that's the fault of your state. How did
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: he get it so wrong on testing? How did FAUCI
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: get it so wrong on testing? The CDC, Collins, everybody involved,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: and not have enough tests to deal with this spike
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: and a new variant that we all knew was going
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: to happen. It was very clear the world was not
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: beating COVID nineteen. We knew it was going to morph
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: again in another time and another time, probably another time.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: How did they get this so wrong? And now they're
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: just pointing figured the states and they're being let off
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: the hook by the media. Well, again, they always look
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: for a scapegoat, and the media is more than accommodating
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: or Joe Biden the Democrat Party. But I'll say this,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: so let's go back at the one point nine trillion
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: dollars packets that they passed in March that was supposedly
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: a quote pandemic relief package, yet only nine percent of
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: it had anything to do with the pandemic or hospitals
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: or healthcare. They have been date in switching the American
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: public all along using the pandemic as their excuse. If
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: you add up all of the dollars that have been
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: allocated to doing just this, dealing with test and getting
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: the proper ppe and equipment into place, eighty two billion
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: dollars have been passed out of the Congress to deal
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: with this. They have misused the funds. They are more
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: focused on their social programs and transforming America than anything else.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: And I think what we need is a complete audit
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: of what's been done to this point. We need to
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: hold people like Founci to account. They have again done
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: a terrible job of doing their primary responsibility, that's taking
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: care of the American people. And this is yet another
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: failure that every citizen, every taxpayer is looking at when
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: they go to get a test, can't find one long
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: lines everywhere. In fact, they're probably contaminating one another of
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: their concern to go to get a test. I'm sure
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: this is causing people who think twice about even being tested.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Now a complete backfire again because they have not implemented
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: the policies as they were at least advertised. They're using
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: this again and a lot of people send to forget this.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the money that bill, and I want
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  Speaker 1: to expanding this a little bit because you were fighting
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  Speaker 1: hard against this bill because ninety percent of the bill
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  Speaker 1: had nothing to do with COVID. That bill costs taxpayers. Again,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: how much money one point nine trillion dollars and how
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  Speaker 1: much money have you been told or heard from this
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  Speaker 1: administration is what we would need to spend to get
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  Speaker 1: enough tests so that we wouldn't have this problem we're
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: dealing with literally right now. Well, there was over thirty
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  Speaker 1: billion in that most recent package. Again, that was a
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  Speaker 1: completely democratic design package that would have dealt with this
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  Speaker 1: in its entirety. Of course, it hasn't been properly spent,
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  Speaker 1: hasn't been properly utilized. And if you add up all
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  Speaker 1: of the expenditures that have been appropriated through the Congress,
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  Speaker 1: that adds up to over eighty billion dollars. So they
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: again advertise one thing, but then deliver something quite different.
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  Speaker 1: The mismanagement that has happened while having not only a vaccine,
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  Speaker 1: but also having the finances needed to pay for virtually
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: anything you want to deal with with COVID nineteen, and
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the fact they still can't get it done when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to basic testing, there has to be some sort
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  Speaker 1: of accountability. Is there any way that you guys in
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  Speaker 1: Congress can hold them accountable for the mismanagement the funds?
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  Speaker 1: I know you mentioned an audit, but is there a
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  Speaker 1: way to shine a light on the fact that this
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  Speaker 1: wasn't an accident of the states, as Joe Biden just mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: It's not an accident of the school It's not the
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  Speaker 1: fault of local school boards. This is a federal government failure.
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  Speaker 1: Under Biden and under Pelosi and under Schumer. We've already
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  Speaker 1: started that process of reaching into the Department of Health
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  Speaker 1: and Human Services to get them to give us a
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  Speaker 1: full accounting of where these funds have gone. We're going
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: to continue to get resistance from them, though as long
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: as they control both Houses of Congress in the White House.
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  Speaker 1: That's why changing the complexion of the Congress in twenty
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: twenty two this year, this November is so critical. Ben.
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  Speaker 1: Once we have control of the House and the Senate,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to be able to properly deploy our oversight
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: function and get to the bottom of this, and there's
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: going to be held to pay. Lastly, I want to
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: get your take on the hostility that's taking place from
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: people in government, not just even in this country, around
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: the world. There was a shocking quote that the President
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Macaron says he wants to blank off unjabbed by banning
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: them from social life with a vaxed passport. We are
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: saying this type of arrogance just in America, what we're
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: seeing in California, what we're seeing in Michigan, what we're
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: seeing in New York. But now you have entire countries
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: leadership like France where their president is saying that he's okay,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: he wants to blank people off. He wants to blank
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: them off the unjabbed in the country by implementing a
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: vaccine pass regimen, saying I really want to blank them off.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: He is what he said, He doubled down on it,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: basically saying, we're gonna have two different groups of people
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: in society. We're seeing this now with kids, kids that
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: went back to school yesterday, and I've got countless parents
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: sending me pictures of their kids who are being taken
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: from their classrooms for not wearing masks, and being put
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: into cafeterias, into waiting rooms, into hallways and being punished
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: until their parents come get them for not wearing a mask,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: going against their parents directive. This seems to be the
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: new normal in this country, and now it's happening not
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: just here but around the world by some of the
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: biggest leaders we know. Then you're touching on something that's
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  Speaker 1: deeply troubling to Americans, particularly people from my home state
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  Speaker 1: of Tennessee. You know, go back to Joe Biden's first
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  Speaker 1: big meeting with so called G seven when he was
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  Speaker 1: with his European pals and they welcomed him back to
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: the club. This is the club that people like the
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: French president Acron belong to. They view everybody else as
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  Speaker 1: a deplorable you know, it'll re Clinton, I think defined
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: it well, that's the Democrat Party elites view of the
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: rest of the world. But the rest of us are
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: all deplorable, and we are exactly the people that they
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: depended on, you know, in critical positions during the depth
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: of the pandemic, to be frontline workers. Whether it was
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: our law enforcement officers, our healthcare workers, the people who
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: kept the food on the shelves at the grocery store.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: They depended on us to do all of that, the
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: front line. That was who they're looking for to help them.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Many people got the disease then, you know, then they
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: want to deny. They want to essentially save you. Don't
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: fall in line, do it exactly as we want you
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: to do it. We're going to call you again a deplorable,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: You're unworthy, We're going to segregate you. It's it's just
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: another another again, egregious, egregious example of the way they
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: view most of the world that applorables. There's always I
• 42:12
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• 42:15
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• 42:18
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