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Director of Power Book II: Ghost, Prodigal Son, Evil, Shameless, Black’ish, Stargirl and more! · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she
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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me
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Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In in case you didn't notice,
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Speaker 1: I'm not broke. You know, he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs,
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Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do,
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Speaker 1: it's what he likes to ship. Now it's time to
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Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations. Here
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Speaker 1: we go. Welcome to Money Making Conversations. I'm your host,
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Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. It is important to understand that everybody travels
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Speaker 1: a different path to success. That's because your brand is different,
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Speaker 1: the challenges you face in your life are different. So
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Speaker 1: you need to start reading other people's success stories and
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Speaker 1: really start writing your own. Now you can be motivated
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Speaker 1: by the success. Don't get it wrong. I want you
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Speaker 1: to do that. I want you to understand what they've done,
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Speaker 1: But what they've done is what they've done. What you
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Speaker 1: have to do is playing your own path, your own
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Speaker 1: level of understanding, based on your own abilities and set
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Speaker 1: your goals and put forth effort. My next guest is
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Speaker 1: one of those. His name is Rob Hardy. He's a
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Speaker 1: graduate of fam Mute. He directs some of the TV's
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Speaker 1: How This shows, including Power Book two, Ghosts, Power Books three,
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Speaker 1: Raising Kanaan that comes out this summer product with Song Evil, Shameless, Blackish,
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Speaker 1: Star Girl, How to Get Away with Murder, The Flash,
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Speaker 1: Criminal Minds, amongst others. Robert Hardy also ex coultive produced
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Speaker 1: a number of movies that you're familiar with, No Good Deeds,
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Speaker 1: Think like a Man, That's me Stump of Yard plus.
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Speaker 1: His Fun Foundation identifies trains and mentors adults career seekers
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Speaker 1: from diverse background to pursue lucrative and lasting opportunities in
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Speaker 1: the gearge of film and television workforce. Please welcome. He
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Speaker 1: was on my show before We got a Little Fantastic.
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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna do business in one. Please welcome
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Speaker 1: to the show money making conversation that is Rob Hardy. Hey, Rob,
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Speaker 1: how are you doing a lot to say about you? Hey?
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Speaker 1: Happy twenty twenty one man, and listen. I I appreciate
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Speaker 1: all the shout outs I do. Yeah, Well, you know
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Speaker 1: the thing about it wrong? First of all, one of
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Speaker 1: the reasons I brought you on the show. First of all,
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Speaker 1: the first time I interviewed you was amazing because you're
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Speaker 1: one of those those solid warriors. You know, you're out there, man,
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Speaker 1: just flip the script you do. You're not just a
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Speaker 1: minority or black director. Your your resume inclusive or diverse
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Speaker 1: platform or sci fi, comedy, uh, drama. How do you
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Speaker 1: walk in all those different shoes? You know? It's uh.
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Speaker 1: You know, when I'm working, it's all about the story,
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Speaker 1: and I love different types of stuff, you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. So whether it is sci fi or teen dramas,
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Speaker 1: or drug dealers or relationships or doctors, I think that
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Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's all about a human
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Speaker 1: story and trying to figure out what that is. And
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Speaker 1: then you get a chance to play in like the
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Speaker 1: different world. So today we're in space, you know it,
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Speaker 1: small ware in the South Bronx so you know that
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Speaker 1: and everything in between. I'm I'm here for that. And
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Speaker 1: it's amazing because I wanted to bring on the show
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Speaker 1: because in you know, it's amazing year COVID heads, civil
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Speaker 1: U rests, but one jewel started shining in that's HBCUs
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Speaker 1: and you're an HBCU alarm of the infamous fam Mute. Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: man the Highest and seven Hills located in sunny Tallahassee, Florida. Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: I'm a family rattler and uh and that school has
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Speaker 1: been everything to me. And it basically laid this foundation
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Speaker 1: for me and a bunch of other people from our
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Speaker 1: era to really come and uh and and try to
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Speaker 1: do our thing. So so I love family, Okay, cool?
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Speaker 1: So were originally from and how did you pick family
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Speaker 1: to pursue your higher education. I grew up in Philadelphia,
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Speaker 1: philipp A. And um my mom wound up taking a
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Speaker 1: job in Florida and she said, hey, you know, you
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Speaker 1: should apply to uh an inn State School so we
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Speaker 1: could afford it, and so, um, I wound up getting
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Speaker 1: the family that way. Um and you know, I had
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Speaker 1: a degree and got a degree in engineering and it
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Speaker 1: was probably like the best, one of the best experiences
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Speaker 1: ever because it was so many, you know, different types
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Speaker 1: of people from all over the world that looked just
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Speaker 1: like me, um that we're going to school, but they
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Speaker 1: also had like a hustle and a passion and it
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Speaker 1: was just the vibe and the energy, you know, being
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Speaker 1: at our school at that time. That just made you
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Speaker 1: want to go and make moves. And we felt like,
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Speaker 1: you know, if anybody in the world was gonna do it,
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Speaker 1: it was gonna be the family, and that was gonna
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Speaker 1: do it. That was kind of like the energy that
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Speaker 1: that school gave us. We're really interesting, Uh, brob, I
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Speaker 1: didn't go to a HBCU, A graduate from University of
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Speaker 1: Houston and Houston, Texas. Texas Southern was right down the street.
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Speaker 1: Further down the street was pre view the next day
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Speaker 1: with Southern Grambling. But famu Man has always had that mystique,
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Speaker 1: you know that put us in your shoes because I
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Speaker 1: really need to know. I'm from the outside and I
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Speaker 1: get excited when I say FAM mute why because you know,
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Speaker 1: FAM you was a unique place or is a unique place,
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Speaker 1: because it's always been the family. You swag, the family,
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Speaker 1: you hustle, and you know, we always kind of felt
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Speaker 1: like when you go to FAM, yeah, you got this
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Speaker 1: major whatever that is, but then what's your hustle, what's
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Speaker 1: your passion? Like, what do you really want to do?
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Speaker 1: And everybody has some version of that, right and we
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Speaker 1: were cool. So we could go, we could we could study,
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Speaker 1: we could party, we could hang out and do everything
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Speaker 1: in between, but there was always this kind of undercurrent
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Speaker 1: of I want to do something, I want to change
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Speaker 1: the world, I want to make something happen. And we
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Speaker 1: were always doing that at school. And you know, so
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Speaker 1: many of my friends when I look out, they're out
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Speaker 1: there making it happen. And also too, because you know,
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Speaker 1: we were state school, so it wasn't like you know,
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Speaker 1: some of the other HBCUs that were kind of like,
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Speaker 1: you know, annoyed or the Crown Jewels or whatever family
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Speaker 1: we were. We were always you know, solid, uh you know,
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Speaker 1: and always were respected, and we always felt like we
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Speaker 1: were outsiders kind of and we love that. And so
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Speaker 1: because of that, it gave us a different kind of edge.
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Speaker 1: So when we broke into the industry, we took that
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Speaker 1: family attitude with us to say, hey, we rattlers were here,
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna bring some other rattlers with us. And
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Speaker 1: so we were like, you know, your cool cousins that
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Speaker 1: come around and make the party live. That's that's kind
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Speaker 1: of you know, how we were and how we still are. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know the funny part about this, The more you talk, man,
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Speaker 1: the more animated you become. Your smile get bigger and
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Speaker 1: you get the bouncing, you know, like a boxing. It's
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Speaker 1: and listen, it's just something me and you. The more
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Speaker 1: you talk about it, you can say all that. So
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Speaker 1: I just, um, you know, any time I get a
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Speaker 1: chance to show off my school, you know, I always
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Speaker 1: always got to do that. We know the interesting anybody
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Speaker 1: that I know how college played a role in my life.
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Speaker 1: I always tell people what I'm doing now is what
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Speaker 1: I did when I was in college. You know, production,
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Speaker 1: the live events, all those things were nurtured in college.
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Speaker 1: And in college, like your degree is an engineering, but
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Speaker 1: now you're director entertainment. And you met him Will Packer
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Speaker 1: there and he was his degree is not an entertainment
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Speaker 1: related field either. So how did that relationship come about?
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Speaker 1: And led to stump to y'all? So, uh, Will and
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Speaker 1: I met at a at a pre college engineering program
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Speaker 1: called e c I at FAM you And so it's
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Speaker 1: like right before our freshman year, they bringing all these
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Speaker 1: engineering students that are going to be going to the school.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I was a guy that thought I
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Speaker 1: was going to another school but didn't get the money.
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Speaker 1: He thought he was going to another school but didn't
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Speaker 1: get the money. We wound up at FAM, you and
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Speaker 1: we became fast friends. And what came out over our
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Speaker 1: hanging out over that summer was that I wanted to
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Speaker 1: be the filmmaker. I was a big Spike Lee and
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Speaker 1: Johnson Wilson and Robert Townsing fan, and he wanted to
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Speaker 1: be a businessman, a businessman and have his own business.
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Speaker 1: So just as we were hanging out and being friends
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Speaker 1: and then we became lion brothers. Um, we're both alpha's. Um.
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Speaker 1: Then when I wound up seeing Menister Society, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: because that was the big movie in theaters of a
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Speaker 1: few friends of mine were like, well, hey, since you
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Speaker 1: did a small movie in high school, you ought to
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Speaker 1: do something here. And then that gave Will and I
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Speaker 1: a chance to do a project together at FAM. And
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Speaker 1: that project was called Chocolate City, Um, you know, and
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Speaker 1: it was it was a big deal for us because
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Speaker 1: we were historically black college with no film program, and
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Speaker 1: so it kind of became our thing. And when we
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Speaker 1: you know, put it out there and hustled it into
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Speaker 1: a video deal. Ten years later after we shot that movie,
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Speaker 1: relatively we got a chance to shoot Stump the Yard
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Speaker 1: um in Atlanta at Morris Brown, a little bit over
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Speaker 1: at more House and Clark Atlanta, and it was just
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Speaker 1: so crazy, like ten years of us kind of being
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Speaker 1: out there on the grind to be doing an HBCU
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Speaker 1: movie that Sony was paying for. And it was like
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Speaker 1: Chris Brown's first movie. It was the movie that really
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Speaker 1: put Columbus Short on the map, even though he was
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Speaker 1: a great actor. And just to be able to do
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Speaker 1: that and have so many of our friends behind the
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Speaker 1: scenes and being able to celebrate our culture and then
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Speaker 1: you know, it was number one two weeks in a row.
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Speaker 1: It was just a real, you know, special moment and
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Speaker 1: it was like our you know, tipping the hats to
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Speaker 1: our schools. You know, it's really interesting because I told
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Speaker 1: Willis story the first time I told the User story
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Speaker 1: because I was executive producer, co creator Steve Harvard Morton
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Speaker 1: show was in New York and when it came out,
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Speaker 1: you know, I was telling Steve this stump the yard
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Speaker 1: movie man some brothers, and I didn't know you guys attempt.
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Speaker 1: I said, we gotta keep this movie number one, man.
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Speaker 1: And and it's really interesting that the love I had
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Speaker 1: for you guys and what you were doing that years
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Speaker 1: later you come back into our lives and do think
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Speaker 1: like a man the author's book, Act like a lady,
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Speaker 1: think like a man, And so that's really amazing. Man.
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Speaker 1: It's about when you when you love something and you
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Speaker 1: see something special and you guys were doing something specially.
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Speaker 1: You're still doing special things today. But again, I always
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Speaker 1: tell people, it's not always about the money. It's about
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Speaker 1: the opportunity in the relationship. And that's really a testament
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Speaker 1: to your career. Correct row Well, listen, Well, first of all,
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Speaker 1: we appreciate and I personally appreciate you know, uh, the
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Speaker 1: shout out and the love you know that y'all gave
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Speaker 1: us to help push that movie. That means a lot,
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Speaker 1: you know, um. And it's funny how those things come
10:42
Speaker 1: back around because we really loved that book. And you know,
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Speaker 1: I definitely got to give a shout out to my
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Speaker 1: wife because she was the first one to come talking
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Speaker 1: to me about that book, like, Hey, everybody's talking about
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Speaker 1: this and we love the book, and you got to
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Speaker 1: turn it into a movie and so on and so forth,
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Speaker 1: and and I'm glad that over time that that that
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Speaker 1: worked out. But you're absolutely right. I think a lot
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Speaker 1: of times, you know, when we do things for the love.
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Speaker 1: When we do things with the right spirit, the money comes,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And it just feels different.
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Speaker 1: And whether you're doing something just for money or doing
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Speaker 1: something because you love it, the grind and the work
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Speaker 1: is gonna be hard regardless, So you might as well
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Speaker 1: grind and work hard for something that you love so
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Speaker 1: then that when that payoff happens, it's gonna feel a
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Speaker 1: lot different than if you're just doing something for a check,
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, and and and the interesting thing
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Speaker 1: about you've always had uh HBCU flavor and your production
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Speaker 1: like the crowd that you did with my girl Felicia
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Speaker 1: Henderson called my baby sister. And uh, you know when
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Speaker 1: I when I when I look at what you're doing
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Speaker 1: in sports with all American you know again, Frob your
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Speaker 1: gifts man so diverse. How that's a director? You know,
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Speaker 1: people just want to do Some people are just a
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Speaker 1: sitcom director, some people just a sci fi big explosures dramas.
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Speaker 1: How are you able to manipulate that level of creative
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Speaker 1: creativity in your mind? Um? You know, because I love
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Speaker 1: I love a lot of different types of things, you know, uh,
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Speaker 1: E R dot ai. We're related to My degree is
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Speaker 1: in mathematics and my minor sociology, so I'm not doing
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Speaker 1: nothing tied to my degree. I've done sitcoms as a writer,
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Speaker 1: produced them, created them reality shows, but I never directed anything. Rob.
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Speaker 1: What does a director do? And how did? How can
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Speaker 1: you become a director? So um as a as a
15:35
Speaker 1: sports fan our related like this. A director is like
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Speaker 1: the coach of the team. You designed the plays and
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Speaker 1: then put your actors in the best position to execute
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Speaker 1: and win or do a good project. That's what the
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Speaker 1: director does um. So it's kind of like the head
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Speaker 1: coach of the team and the producer of the general
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Speaker 1: manager the GM. You know, they'll hire me or they'll
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Speaker 1: hire the coach um. So you know, I love that
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Speaker 1: because it gives me the opportunity to, you know, interact
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Speaker 1: with people and talk to them and try and try
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Speaker 1: to try to get you the truth of the situation
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Speaker 1: so they can so we can feel as real to
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Speaker 1: them and as relatable as possible to them. So that
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Speaker 1: way the audience feels something right, because if you just
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Speaker 1: watch a movie or watch a TV show and you
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Speaker 1: don't feel anything, then we just wasted your time. But
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Speaker 1: even if you feel mad, sad, laugh, whatever it is,
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Speaker 1: you feel something, then you know it was worth the
16:29
Speaker 1: time that you gave us, you know, to to watch
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Speaker 1: our show. Well, you know there's that's amazing just watching
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Speaker 1: your talents and the brick. So let me slow it down. Man,
16:40
Speaker 1: saw the finale a power book two Ghosts Opporte you Man,
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Speaker 1: I didn't see this coming in this series. I didn't
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Speaker 1: see that I would be spitting my Sunday nights watching
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Speaker 1: I just didn't see it because when it came out,
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Speaker 1: I heard your storyline drug dealer club on her. You know,
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Speaker 1: I went, I ain't watching that. I ain't watching that.
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Speaker 1: I ain't watch it sound like a bad rap video
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Speaker 1: that I don't want to watch. But what makes what
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Speaker 1: made it? Because I want to go back to win
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Speaker 1: the beginning, because you were there at the beginning and
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Speaker 1: you've been at the whole process. I apologize I said that,
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Speaker 1: And because you did the finale of Paul book to Ghosts.
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Speaker 1: What makes that? What makes that series work? So you know,
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Speaker 1: I think what makes the Power series work is on
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Speaker 1: the fundamental level, it's really relatable. So in the original
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Speaker 1: Power series, you had a guy that grew up a
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Speaker 1: certain way ghost and he did what he had to
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Speaker 1: do given his options. So he was a drug dealer,
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Speaker 1: and he had his best friend that was along with him.
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Speaker 1: And then he gets to a place to where he
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Speaker 1: wants to make a change in his life and do
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Speaker 1: something different going to clubs. But he's got his you know,
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Speaker 1: his wife and his best ranch last business partner that
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Speaker 1: don't want him to change. And then he meets this
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Speaker 1: other woman who to him, represents the change that he
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Speaker 1: can be. And that's the fundamental of it all is
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out how do I transition into who
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Speaker 1: I want to be when the people around me are
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Speaker 1: saying all you can be is this? And I think
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Speaker 1: there's something like that from a huge from a humanity
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Speaker 1: standpoint that's really relatable as where different parts, you know,
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Speaker 1: positions in our lives where maybe you want to do
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Speaker 1: something different than your family's a customer you're doing, or
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Speaker 1: your friends are a customer you're doing, and you want
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Speaker 1: to transition, And here's this guy and it leads to
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Speaker 1: one bad decision after another bad decision, and I think
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Speaker 1: we get caught up in that and that's the foundation
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Speaker 1: of that is what makes power amazing. And then it's
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Speaker 1: in the world of clubs and drug dealers and stuff
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Speaker 1: and toys and murder, which makes it cool. And so
18:50
Speaker 1: this is like the derrib you know, this the Ghost series.
18:53
Speaker 1: It's like part two of that. So that it was
18:56
Speaker 1: created by Courtney kemp Uh and fifty cent and is
19:00
Speaker 1: how they you know, interwel with the stories has been
19:02
Speaker 1: pretty amazing, um and they're really smart people. UM. So
19:06
Speaker 1: being a part that's been cool and it's been stuff
19:08
Speaker 1: that just you know, as a forty something year old
19:10
Speaker 1: guy I can relate to on a lot of different
19:12
Speaker 1: moments and so many other people. Here's the thing about
19:16
Speaker 1: this series. You know, the Fast and Furious series works
19:20
Speaker 1: because it's about family, you know what I'm saying. And
19:22
Speaker 1: then I equate that same thing with the Power series.
19:26
Speaker 1: He just wants to be a good dad, but so
19:29
Speaker 1: many elements stop him. His lifestyle stops him. His personal
19:33
Speaker 1: won't stop him. And that's really what drives even more.
19:36
Speaker 1: You know, he wants to be a good husband, but
19:38
Speaker 1: then again he meets the love for his life. He
19:41
Speaker 1: wants to be a good father, but then the lifestyle
19:44
Speaker 1: he lives, you know, that's not gonna end good. You
19:46
Speaker 1: can't parent that life, you know, because you can walk
19:49
Speaker 1: yourself right into that danger zone. But I did not
19:52
Speaker 1: see that young man who plays his son become the
19:56
Speaker 1: star that he is today. He's incredible, man, Yeah he
20:01
Speaker 1: really is. Uh Michael Rainey Jr. Shout out to him.
20:04
Speaker 1: I just watched his evolution and growth as an act.
20:07
Speaker 1: You know, when I came on and started working on
20:10
Speaker 1: the original Power Show season two and just his role
20:15
Speaker 1: was a lot smaller as far as the amount of
20:17
Speaker 1: stuff he had to do, and it's grown. And just
20:20
Speaker 1: working on the Ghost finale um. Just watching his range
20:24
Speaker 1: just changed as an actor, you know, and how much
20:26
Speaker 1: more confidence that he has. Um has been pretty amazing
20:30
Speaker 1: to watch. And it's cool because it's like, you know,
20:34
Speaker 1: for him as a character, you know, he's doing the
20:36
Speaker 1: best that he can. But now you know, you're trying
20:39
Speaker 1: to lead. You know, your father wants to keep you
20:41
Speaker 1: out of that, out of that business, but that's a
20:43
Speaker 1: part of his life and the people that he's you
20:46
Speaker 1: know around, you know, our killers and drug dealers, so
20:49
Speaker 1: some of that stuff rubs off on him. So it's
20:51
Speaker 1: kind of you know, uh interesting that you work your
20:54
Speaker 1: whole life to keep your kids from certain things, but
20:57
Speaker 1: because of how you do things, sometimes some some that
21:00
Speaker 1: stuff comes back, and I think that makes it You
21:03
Speaker 1: have not seen the finale, check out the final. But
21:06
Speaker 1: here's the thing about Michael's character, because like I said,
21:10
Speaker 1: it was small, he was weasilely. But the episode where
21:15
Speaker 1: his sister was murdered, Yeah, I think to me was
21:18
Speaker 1: a turning point for his character because for me as
21:21
Speaker 1: a person, I became engaged. I hated him, you know,
21:25
Speaker 1: I did. I was disappointed in him, but I couldn't
21:28
Speaker 1: I hate too strong. I was disappointed because he was young.
21:32
Speaker 1: You can't hate a young person because you make mistakes
21:35
Speaker 1: when you're young. And that point on his character development,
21:40
Speaker 1: he exploded, Man, when we look at who's our next
21:43
Speaker 1: den Sail, who's our next Samuel Man, he's on the
21:46
Speaker 1: radar to be that dude. He's on the radar. You know,
21:50
Speaker 1: you know, it's so interesting hearing you say that, because
21:53
Speaker 1: I totally agree. I think that everything is fun in
21:57
Speaker 1: games until somebody gets seriously hurt, killed, or gets locked
22:01
Speaker 1: up for a long time or something that we did.
22:04
Speaker 1: Now it's real. So I think that all the misfit
22:07
Speaker 1: like stuff that he was doing, the rebellious type stuff
22:10
Speaker 1: that he was doing as a as a kid, rebelling
22:12
Speaker 1: against his parents, um changed when his sister died. Especially
22:17
Speaker 1: knowing that that bullet should have been for him, made
22:20
Speaker 1: him a different person because now you you you've crossed
22:23
Speaker 1: an invisible line and you can never come back. The
22:25
Speaker 1: only next logical step for him was to physically go
22:29
Speaker 1: and you know, you know, get retribution. Killed the guy
22:34
Speaker 1: that that shot his sister, and once that line was crossed,
22:37
Speaker 1: it was he can't go back. You know, he opened
22:39
Speaker 1: Indoora's box, And so I think that there's like everything
22:42
Speaker 1: else as a result of that has been him growing
22:44
Speaker 1: into that new person so character. But the opening the
22:51
Speaker 1: Pallet of Power, Ghost character looking good, innocent looking in
22:59
Speaker 1: the sense that he looked like he could be running
23:00
Speaker 1: the Fortune five hr company and he kills somebody in
23:04
Speaker 1: that pilot set the tone for the evolution of his
23:07
Speaker 1: son in the in the series finale, and you know,
23:12
Speaker 1: he said some things and some phrases in there that
23:15
Speaker 1: really signifies that I can't wait too, I can't wait
23:19
Speaker 1: till the next episode. You know. That's a great story
23:21
Speaker 1: when you when you when you're setting up there going hey, man,
23:23
Speaker 1: it's over with me. I didn't see another episode. And
23:27
Speaker 1: that's what you did last night in the finale. Man.
23:29
Speaker 1: The finale that you that aired on Sunday night was amazing. Man. Congratulations, Man,
23:34
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I'm really glad that you uh that
23:37
Speaker 1: she does it and yeh he right, I agree. Listen
23:39
Speaker 1: to the pilot to Power, I thought was was really
23:43
Speaker 1: amazing to like bring you into that world and it's crazy. Yeah, Ghost,
23:47
Speaker 1: we met Ghost there and that's where he left us,
23:50
Speaker 1: you know, in that same club. It's amazing. And now
23:54
Speaker 1: let's talk about some other things outside of Power, you know,
23:57
Speaker 1: the Hardy your Rainforest Entertainment just with lions Gate TV
24:01
Speaker 1: for a first look production here what exactly is that? So,
24:04
Speaker 1: what it is is that we have a production deal
24:07
Speaker 1: with lions Gate UH in the episodes specifically, so in
24:10
Speaker 1: the episode is the company's Courtney Kemp's UH company, and
24:14
Speaker 1: she's the creator of Power. So that means that we're
24:17
Speaker 1: partnering with her to develop content. And so first look
24:20
Speaker 1: means that my company, UH Rainforce Entertainment, and I have
24:24
Speaker 1: a partner in my company from Fami you Mitsy Miller
24:28
Speaker 1: um who used to be editor in chief over at
24:31
Speaker 1: every each UH. And so we'll have projects that we
24:35
Speaker 1: develop and then once we take that to ind of
24:38
Speaker 1: episode lions Gate, if they want to partner with us
24:41
Speaker 1: on it, then we'll be business partners and we'll package
24:44
Speaker 1: it and try to sell the projects. If not, then
24:46
Speaker 1: we're free and clear to take it anywhere that we
24:49
Speaker 1: want and get it set up. So um, you know,
24:52
Speaker 1: it's a big deal for us as a company. UM.
24:55
Speaker 1: And so we're really excited about one. You know, the
24:58
Speaker 1: really interesting thing about my show money making conversations that
25:02
Speaker 1: and then you have the same personality, Rob. You know,
25:04
Speaker 1: you just help people, be helping them. And but in
25:06
Speaker 1: the way we've learned that that's been mentorship. That means
25:09
Speaker 1: that not afraid of competition. You know, I always tell people,
25:13
Speaker 1: if I give you an idea and you make a
25:15
Speaker 1: million dollars, I'm happy because that was an idea that
25:18
Speaker 1: obviously had no value to me. I couldn't do anything
25:21
Speaker 1: with it. And so you've established that with your foundation.
25:24
Speaker 1: You and your wife have established the foundation to train,
25:26
Speaker 1: mentor and give people careers in this and there is
25:30
Speaker 1: a lucrative film and TV business in Georgia. Tell us
25:33
Speaker 1: about that foundation. So, UM, we have a company called
25:37
Speaker 1: our foundation called UM the Robin Shawn Hardy Amazing Stories Foundations.
25:42
Speaker 1: So my wife and I UH create the foundation and
25:46
Speaker 1: the whole purpose of it is to train people from
25:49
Speaker 1: our communities in the Atlanta metro area. UM, how to
25:53
Speaker 1: get you know, production jobs on sets for TV and moves.
25:58
Speaker 1: But this is these are we call below the line positions.
26:01
Speaker 1: So it's not stuff like directors, writers, producers, but it's
26:05
Speaker 1: everything from transportation to camera to special effects, hair makeup. UM.
26:11
Speaker 1: So a young lady Nina Packer, another family one, UH
26:16
Speaker 1: runs the foundation, and um, we partner with the city
26:20
Speaker 1: of East Point, who's mayor, Dina Ingram is another family one.
26:24
Speaker 1: Uh you know, you see like the trend here, and
26:28
Speaker 1: we did uh two, we've done two seasons of it,
26:31
Speaker 1: so we've basically gone out, found people, trained them, put
26:34
Speaker 1: them on sets, um and a bunch of those people
26:38
Speaker 1: have gotten full time jobs working on TV and movie sets.
26:42
Speaker 1: So we have people right now on shows like Black
26:45
Speaker 1: Lightning and Dynasty, um, you know, and shows like that. UM.
26:51
Speaker 1: So it's a really big deal because, especially living in Atlanta,
26:54
Speaker 1: a lot of producers would come here and you go
26:57
Speaker 1: on the sets and they wouldn't have a whole lot
26:59
Speaker 1: of diverse city behind the scenes. It wouldn't be a
27:01
Speaker 1: whole lot of people that look like us. And they
27:03
Speaker 1: kept saying, well, we can't find the people. There's no
27:06
Speaker 1: train people. So my thought was, Okay, well, then we'll
27:10
Speaker 1: create a pipeline. We'll create an avenue to where my cousin,
27:14
Speaker 1: your cousin that lives in our city can get some
27:18
Speaker 1: training and they can drive a truck, they can cook
27:20
Speaker 1: some food, they can carry some cable, they can do whatever.
27:23
Speaker 1: And then with that they can get a career with
27:26
Speaker 1: a pension, uh, with some health insurance, and then they
27:30
Speaker 1: can show other people in our communities that this industry,
27:33
Speaker 1: this multi billion dollar industry is for us to wow. Well,
27:39
Speaker 1: you know I I first of all, you know the
27:42
Speaker 1: only thing wrong with this end of view man, because
27:44
Speaker 1: I'm a remember making sci fire and you keep repeating
27:48
Speaker 1: the alpha. You know what I'm saying. You know I
27:50
Speaker 1: got respect for the alpha, but you can't be saying
27:52
Speaker 1: at two minute times on myself. Hey, well, I'm gonna
27:57
Speaker 1: tell you. Look, my dad, My dad uh wasn't Omega.
28:01
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And I I said, I said, listen,
28:05
Speaker 1: things get better with time. So you know, you know
28:08
Speaker 1: you trained me up, gave me all year gifts so
28:10
Speaker 1: that way I can I can take this thing the
28:12
Speaker 1: greater heights. And that's what I did, you know what
28:15
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So hey, a little bit here we are.
28:18
Speaker 1: I think I did a little background tep but bro Man.
28:21
Speaker 1: First of all, the first time with Matt Man, we
28:23
Speaker 1: was gonna connect the pandemic, blue everything. But this year, man,
28:27
Speaker 1: you know what I talked about before this call. Uh,
28:31
Speaker 1: you You're amazing and we're going to do business in
28:34
Speaker 1: one and UH and carry some of these visions and
28:37
Speaker 1: these these skill sets that you have to the next level.
28:39
Speaker 1: And Uh, I bought the building in Atlanta, so I
28:41
Speaker 1: want to invite you by your WiFi so we sit
28:43
Speaker 1: down and talk. Because I got some local productions. I'm
28:46
Speaker 1: gonna be doing that. I like to be able to
28:49
Speaker 1: bring some of your some of the individuals over here
28:51
Speaker 1: and work them and matriculate them into our programs that
28:54
Speaker 1: we're trying to do. Because again, if you don't have
28:56
Speaker 1: a resume in the business, you don't have an opportunity.
29:00
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29:02
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29:05
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