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Bakari Sellers, Terry Brown, Clarke Peters, Lia Dias, and Isiah Whitlock Jr. · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: made history of two thousand six when they're twenty two
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Speaker 1: years of age. He defeated the twenty six year Incomebent
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Speaker 1: state representative, become the youngest member of the South Carolina
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Speaker 1: State Legislature and the youngest African American elected official in
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Speaker 1: the nation. In ten he was named Time Magazines forty
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Speaker 1: Under forty and he was named to the group one
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Speaker 1: hundred was Influential African Americans. He practices law with a
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Speaker 1: strong law firm in Columbia, South Carolina, one of my
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Speaker 1: favorite cities, by the way, and it's a political commentator
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Speaker 1: at CNN. He's the author of a great book that
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Speaker 1: I read this week, and he will be talking about
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Speaker 1: that during our interview My Vanishing Country a Memoir. Please
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Speaker 1: welcome to Money Making Conversations, my man, but Cary Sellers Man,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me on this platform. Brother.
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Speaker 1: It means a lot to be here with you today, man,
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Speaker 1: so thank you so much. First of all, Um, thank
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Speaker 1: you for coming on the show, and thank you for
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Speaker 1: you know, let's talk about We've got two breaks, but
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Speaker 1: eight minutes to talk because it's a lot, man, because
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Speaker 1: you're you're presenting information to our lives now that I
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Speaker 1: didn't have when I was growing up. Books like this,
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Speaker 1: you know, these are these are these are important books.
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Speaker 1: And uh like we talked about big country, the difference
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Speaker 1: between country country firms, and I was, I was sitting
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Speaker 1: on my front porch and I I had my love,
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Speaker 1: I have had my bottle of water. I read this
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Speaker 1: book on my front porch and one evening this week.
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Speaker 1: In fact that there's no Memorial Day, That's why I
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Speaker 1: spent my moral day with your book for card, because
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Speaker 1: that's that's that's all you needed with some bol Peanut
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Speaker 1: had a full thing, hey, my man, And I was
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Speaker 1: feeling good because you know, when I read this book.
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Speaker 1: There was there was a couple of things that were
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Speaker 1: missing in the book for me. Okay, the book is great,
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Speaker 1: by the way, This is not a negative, but I
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Speaker 1: was I needed some pictures in here, man, I needed
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Speaker 1: some pictures. I gonna lie to you, man, I'll go.
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Speaker 1: I needed to see the picture of your six ft
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Speaker 1: two sister. I needed to see the picture of two
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Speaker 1: sister next to your five ft three inch tall wife.
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Speaker 1: I needed to see him picture of pop. I needed
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Speaker 1: to see a picture you Mr q tip skinny dude
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Speaker 1: with the a frow. I needed to see a picture
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Speaker 1: of your dad with the a frow when he was younger. Yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: I we we tried. I tried to pay the picture
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Speaker 1: with my words. But as you as you laid it out, man,
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Speaker 1: you know the imagery that we laid out of my
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Speaker 1: vanaging country, I think it's special. And you know these
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Speaker 1: stories we have down here in the South, Man, it's
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Speaker 1: important that we tell them with our imagery and tell
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Speaker 1: them without words. And you're doing it. You're doing it.
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Speaker 1: That's why I want to see them, because of the
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Speaker 1: fact that you know that when you talk about that
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Speaker 1: picture that was taken on stage with you and President
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Speaker 1: of Brockleball and Carry Washington and Chris Tucker and Ussha.
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Speaker 1: I want to see that picture. I want to see
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Speaker 1: it because you were like man, I should wish I
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Speaker 1: could see that picture, because you're such a good in
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Speaker 1: the paper book, in the paper books. In the paper
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Speaker 1: book session, I will talk to my my people over
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Speaker 1: at Harper College that you know very well, and I
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Speaker 1: will tell them that I was having a money man
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Speaker 1: and conversation and what the suggestion was we asked a picture.
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Speaker 1: I swear to you. I swear to you because you
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Speaker 1: are This is such a great book because of the
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Speaker 1: fact it's historical. You lived that you live as a
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Speaker 1: young man. You live, you know, like you said you was.
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Speaker 1: You was like said you was a little political baby.
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Speaker 1: You know, all the black people, all the politicists come there.
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Speaker 1: They had the liber Carly come with look cute little
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Speaker 1: come awa take a picture with you know, use the
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Speaker 1: little picture take a baby and so and but let's
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Speaker 1: let's let's go back a little bit. But the first
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Speaker 1: thing I want to talk about is you been a
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Speaker 1: more Halls graduate. Talk about that HPCU experience and the
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Speaker 1: importance of it. Man. Look, so we're going to Morehouse
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Speaker 1: college and I was really young when I went. I
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Speaker 1: was only sixteen years old. But the experience at Morehouse,
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Speaker 1: the experience at more House told me a few things.
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Speaker 1: One one, I could be unapologically black, be comfortable in
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Speaker 1: my own skin. But it also taught me I could
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Speaker 1: compete anywhere in the world. You know, more Houses they
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Speaker 1: say your places crown above your head, so you can
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Speaker 1: grow into it. And it just sets that level of expectation.
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Speaker 1: And so being a black man and you know, uh
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Speaker 1: Rashaun right now as we're going through just another tragic
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Speaker 1: in our country, the grief that it means and you
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Speaker 1: carry as a black man. Um, you know, going to
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Speaker 1: more House that helped me have a sense of pride
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Speaker 1: and make sure that um you know, I speak for
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Speaker 1: those whose voices sometimes go on her and I rise,
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Speaker 1: I rise to that level of expectation. And so my
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Speaker 1: Morehouse was was was amazing and helping me feel comfortable
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Speaker 1: in my blackness and going out and being able to
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Speaker 1: have pride in that and in my everyday life. It's
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Speaker 1: really important because of the fact that it was in
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Speaker 1: the book when you're talking about which I which I
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Speaker 1: always found so relatable. When you're talking about you know
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Speaker 1: the guys from different parts of the country. You know
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Speaker 1: the Houston boy. I'm from Houston, so so I took
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Speaker 1: the Houston bard to water polo books. You know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. And that's if you get into college right man,
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Speaker 1: and you get on campus, you do. I had my
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Speaker 1: boys from New Allus that was the same all boys.
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Speaker 1: I had my boys from from New York, Kiddo. They
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Speaker 1: dressed a certain way. And I had my boars from Chicago,
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Speaker 1: they dressed a certain way. When you get that college experience,
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Speaker 1: I always tell people, go to college. I always tell
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Speaker 1: young people go to college. It defines who you could be,
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Speaker 1: who you could be, And that's the diversity that the
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Speaker 1: diversity that people don't even imagine exists. You've got You've
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Speaker 1: got people who are coming the brightest from all around
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Speaker 1: the world. Um, you know what they're saying. Oh boys,
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Speaker 1: they still are you know, they wear them Letterman jackets
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Speaker 1: their entire life. They forty years old, still aware the
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Speaker 1: how Letterman jacket. But um, you know you still have
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Speaker 1: You get a chance to learn and cultivate. An iron
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Speaker 1: sharpens iron, and you're able to grow with each other
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Speaker 1: and those friendships last for a lifetime, and so I
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Speaker 1: was very, very lucky to be able to go to
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Speaker 1: more house. I tell my kids right now, you can
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Speaker 1: go to any college you want to go through the
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Speaker 1: entire country, as long as it's an HBCU. Absolutely, I
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Speaker 1: didn't go to an hp U hbc U, but I'm
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Speaker 1: doing I've done a lot of work and promoting the brand,
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Speaker 1: and I just did that big special with ESPN with
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Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith, who I represent. H did a big
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Speaker 1: broadcast for ESPN and raised over four million dollars and
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Speaker 1: scholarships and registered twelve hundred students for HBCU schools last September,
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna do it again this year. Hopefully this
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Speaker 1: pandemic calms down so we can do it again because
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Speaker 1: of the fact that I understand the value of that
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Speaker 1: form of education that sometimes gets warmed down. Yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: and we just have to make sure that especially as
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Speaker 1: black folka are not just suffering the most in terms
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Speaker 1: of public health from this COVID nineteen UM, but our
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Speaker 1: businesses are suffering and our institutions of higher education is suffering.
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Speaker 1: So I'm grateful for somebody like you reaching out and
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Speaker 1: reaching up and giving people a hand up. I have to.
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Speaker 1: I have to. That's the rules were playing, like, let's
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Speaker 1: talk about my vanishing country, you know, memoir. Talk to
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Speaker 1: tell us about why you wrote this book first. So
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Speaker 1: I will tell you this man. Look, I didn't want
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Speaker 1: to write a I didn't want to write a memoir,
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Speaker 1: per say. I wanted to write a political book. Um,
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Speaker 1: but no one wanted to buy it. I mean I could,
9:33
Speaker 1: I got kept getting turned down. And so I sat
9:35
Speaker 1: down with Tracy sharado Or at Carpercollins and she said, look,
9:39
Speaker 1: tell me your story. And I told her about my
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Speaker 1: father being shot in the Orange Ring massacre. I talked
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Speaker 1: about the trauma they're living with with that entails. I
9:46
Speaker 1: talked talked about being the youngest black elected official in
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Speaker 1: the country, and you know, living in South Carolina and
9:52
Speaker 1: working in South Carolina, the hospices of the Confederate Flag.
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Speaker 1: And I talked to her about losing my good Franklemente
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Speaker 1: Pinkney UM in the Charleston shooting. And you know, throughout
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Speaker 1: all of those experiences that trauma. Realized that my trauma
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Speaker 1: may not be your trauma. But if we get a
10:06
Speaker 1: level of understanding, then we can persevere together. Um. And
10:09
Speaker 1: she said, you gotta put this time, You gotta put
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Speaker 1: this down on paper, and you know, the you never
10:16
Speaker 1: know when your book is gonna come out when you
10:18
Speaker 1: write it. And I had no idea that my book
10:21
Speaker 1: was gonna come out during a time where black folks
10:24
Speaker 1: were dying in extremely high rates, um due to the
10:27
Speaker 1: coronavirus or pandemic. UM. I never really a would have imagined.
10:31
Speaker 1: I mean that we would have had the depths of
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Speaker 1: of Brianna Taylor, the death of amd Aubrey, UM and
10:38
Speaker 1: now another death in Minnesota. UM. But um. You know,
10:42
Speaker 1: so the book comes out in the words and I'm
10:44
Speaker 1: that I'm putting on that page, um or those pages.
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Speaker 1: It speaks to the issues of race we have in
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Speaker 1: this country, issues we've never truly dealt with. And we
10:52
Speaker 1: have someone in the office there's often seems like he's
10:55
Speaker 1: fueling the problems that are trying to remitated the product.
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Speaker 1: And so what that means with that being said, you
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Speaker 1: know you are a political commentator and this book. Uh,
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Speaker 1: I just wanted later everybody know how special you are
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Speaker 1: as a young man. I want to everybody how special,
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Speaker 1: but how your parents are. Let's go to your parents,
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Speaker 1: because that's the that's the unknown story that really really
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Speaker 1: just had me going from page to page to page
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Speaker 1: to page. Tell us about your dad. Who you're who?
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Speaker 1: Your friend from college? Your roommates said, he's out Martin
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Speaker 1: Luther King Jr. Your dad, Yeah, my dad was a
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Speaker 1: member of Snake. My dad dedicated his life to justice.
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Speaker 1: My dad was dedicated his life the freedom in the
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Speaker 1: pursuit thereof And so you know, February eight, my dad
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Speaker 1: was shot UM and what's called the Orange Eric massacre. UM.
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Speaker 1: Three others were killed Henry Smith, Samuel Hammond, Delino Middleton,
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Speaker 1: and UM. There was a total of twenty nine that
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Speaker 1: were injured. UM. All the officers who fired shots into
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Speaker 1: the group of students were tried. They were all found
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Speaker 1: not guilty. My father and of being the only person
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Speaker 1: that UM they charged tried and convicted of that night's
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Speaker 1: violence they charged them and being the first and only
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Speaker 1: one man right in the history of this country. UM.
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Speaker 1: And you know, my mother, my mother helped integrate schools
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Speaker 1: in Memphis, Tennessee. And UM, my parents, they all came
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Speaker 1: from this UM world view that you had to become
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Speaker 1: a part of something larger than yourself, that you had
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Speaker 1: to UM push this country to be a more perfect union.
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Speaker 1: And that came along with a great deal of trauma,
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Speaker 1: but they instilled that in all of us. So um
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Speaker 1: as I as I go through life, I just go
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Speaker 1: through life trying to be a change agent and make
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Speaker 1: my parents proud because they poured so much into me.
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Speaker 1: They poured a lot. Before we go to break, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna give out some a little nice little nuggets about HBCUs.
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Speaker 1: There over one HBCUs across the country. They rolled ten
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Speaker 1: percent of African American students. And despite constituting only three
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Speaker 1: percent of four year colleges in this country, HBCUs had
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Speaker 1: produced eight of the black judges, of the black lawyers,
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Speaker 1: of the black doctors, for percent of the black engineers,
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Speaker 1: for the percent of the black members of Congress, and
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Speaker 1: of the black CEOs in America. That's what HBCUs do
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Speaker 1: for this continent and continue to do for this country. Now,
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Speaker 1: your major in college was in African American Studies. It was,
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Speaker 1: it was. And I bring that up because my degrees
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Speaker 1: in mathematics, and I did and my minor was in sociology,
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Speaker 1: and I took African American studies, which changed my life,
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Speaker 1: by the way, because I can remember because I realized
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Speaker 1: that that I went to public school. They just teach
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Speaker 1: you nothing about what African Americans have accomplished. They free you.
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Speaker 1: Then you make it to the Brow to the Border education.
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Speaker 1: Then all of sudden you make it to the Martin
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Speaker 1: Luther King speech and that. But that's why the all
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Speaker 1: the the Mark Luke King assassination, that's why it pretty
13:47
Speaker 1: much ends in public school with education. Then we then
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Speaker 1: we do the Black History mark and it's the same
13:53
Speaker 1: individuals in Black history Marth that we talked about, which
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Speaker 1: they are important, but we've accomplished more than like six people.
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Speaker 1: And so when I took African American studies, it evolved
14:03
Speaker 1: so much information to me that it brought me to
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Speaker 1: tears many times because I went I didn't know and
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Speaker 1: and and and it's said talk about that that education
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Speaker 1: and lack of information, how it just keeps the nine
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Speaker 1: African Americans or people over again. You know. One of
14:21
Speaker 1: the things that I when I was writing the book
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Speaker 1: UM you go back and you read sentences that that
14:25
Speaker 1: stick out to you. And one of those sentences that
14:27
Speaker 1: sticks out to me is when I was writing UM
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Speaker 1: and and my one of the lessons, my father taught me,
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Speaker 1: which is that heroes walk amongst us. My father and
14:36
Speaker 1: my mother they never wanted us to believe that the
14:38
Speaker 1: only heroes we had were Martin, Malcolm and Rosa Um.
14:42
Speaker 1: You know, I grew up around the Stokely car Michaels
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Speaker 1: and the merryon berries. Um. I studied the Majessica Simpkins
14:48
Speaker 1: and septem of Clarks, as well as the elevators and
14:50
Speaker 1: Fanny Let Hammers, and so all of these I call
14:53
Speaker 1: them my aunts and uncles, all of these people who
14:55
Speaker 1: are part of my my my village. You know that
14:57
Speaker 1: I'm a product of the proverbial It takes a illuge
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Speaker 1: to raise a child. All of these people were part
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Speaker 1: of my village. And you know, we had an opportunity.
15:06
Speaker 1: I had an opportunity of growing up to live and
15:08
Speaker 1: breathe that history. The unique part about growing up in
15:10
Speaker 1: the South, though, is that you don't have to just
15:13
Speaker 1: read your history in books, and you can actually go
15:17
Speaker 1: out and touch and talk to people who uh, you know,
15:20
Speaker 1: they smelled, guns, smoked, They laid on those courthouse and
15:23
Speaker 1: jail house floors. You know, those old ladies that sit
15:26
Speaker 1: on the first and second row of the churches to
15:27
Speaker 1: where the big hats, the two or three sticks of butter,
15:30
Speaker 1: and the and um cocon up pies and a sweet
15:33
Speaker 1: potato pies. Those ladies have seen so much and when
15:36
Speaker 1: they hug you, they sustain you. They give you so
15:38
Speaker 1: much life, but they also give you that wisdom. It's
15:40
Speaker 1: just like the old man in the barbershop who ain't
15:42
Speaker 1: thin getting the haircut, but he's telling you the stories
15:44
Speaker 1: about when he saw Sunny listen fight, and when King
15:46
Speaker 1: came through town, and all of these individuals and stuff.
15:49
Speaker 1: I tried to give all of those people voices and
15:52
Speaker 1: and and have some historical context, because this is the
15:55
Speaker 1: this is the key when we talked about race in
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Speaker 1: this country. Um, it's it's the most difficult conversation we
16:01
Speaker 1: have to have. But white folks only look at race
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Speaker 1: through the context of their lifetime. And so in this book,
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Speaker 1: what I tried to do was show how race has
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Speaker 1: impacted us through a continual and so you can see
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Speaker 1: the progression from my my grandparents to my father and
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Speaker 1: mother to where I am now, so you understand that trauma.
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Speaker 1: And if black folk read this and get a sense
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Speaker 1: of pride, and white folk read this and get a
16:25
Speaker 1: sense of understanding. I think we can have some difficult
16:28
Speaker 1: conversations with compassion, those conversations that are necessary. Really, like
16:32
Speaker 1: you said, years and counting. I believe that's what you
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Speaker 1: say in the book. You know, I want to read
16:38
Speaker 1: this portion. She said, I always tell people that we
16:40
Speaker 1: chipped away at the glass ceiling. Glass ceiling mean uh voters.
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Speaker 1: And in South Carolina and I won forty of the vote,
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Speaker 1: and Georgia Stacy abros One, and in Florida and Drew
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Speaker 1: Gill him he won forty. Um, we're talking about states
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Speaker 1: that are read states. We're talking about states that blacks
17:02
Speaker 1: do have a majority in certain situations, but they are
17:05
Speaker 1: fearful of the outcomes. Are they are are They're so
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Speaker 1: beaten down that they don't feel that their vote matters.
17:10
Speaker 1: As we go into twenty sixteen, and you're being a
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Speaker 1: political commentator and you're writing a book called My Vanishing Country,
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Speaker 1: our Memoir, talk to us about that, what what what? What?
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Speaker 1: What do we have to overcome? What do we have
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Speaker 1: to do? Those numbers you laid out across but they're
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Speaker 1: not victorious, you know, No, The first thing we gotta
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Speaker 1: do is overcome voter suppression. Is something that people don't
17:29
Speaker 1: talk about enough in this country. You know, I tell people,
17:31
Speaker 1: you gotta show up and vote. You gotta show up
17:33
Speaker 1: and show out at the polls. And and you know,
17:36
Speaker 1: if voting wasn't so important, people wouldn't work so hard
17:39
Speaker 1: to take it away from you as first um, So
17:41
Speaker 1: we gotta overcome that. We gotta we gotta push our
17:44
Speaker 1: candidates to be better. You know, I don't mind people
17:46
Speaker 1: pushing Joe Biden to be better, to be a better candidate,
17:49
Speaker 1: to have an agenda that positively affects people of color.
17:52
Speaker 1: But I also can state unequivocally that I'm gonna do
17:54
Speaker 1: everything I can to vote for Joe Biden and get
17:56
Speaker 1: Joe Biden over the hump because my children don't deserve
17:59
Speaker 1: to grow up in a country where Donald Trump is
18:01
Speaker 1: president of the United States, and so we have to
18:04
Speaker 1: be willing to do that. And like, one of the
18:06
Speaker 1: things that I want to see us do is activate
18:08
Speaker 1: I want to see us activate our base. I want
18:10
Speaker 1: to you know, it's one thing to go vote, but
18:12
Speaker 1: it's another thing to go pick up your cousin who
18:14
Speaker 1: sits in front of the gas station every day just
18:18
Speaker 1: hillering at people who hadn't voted, probably since Barack Obama.
18:21
Speaker 1: He voted, and he voted in O eight and twelve
18:23
Speaker 1: and that was it. I need you to go get him.
18:25
Speaker 1: I need you to register your high school, uh students
18:28
Speaker 1: in your community to vote. I need this to be
18:30
Speaker 1: a participatory effort. I need everybody to get involved because
18:33
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this, those Trump supporters they're gonna
18:35
Speaker 1: show up, They're gonna vote, and we have to be
18:37
Speaker 1: there and we have to make our voices heard. If not, xenophobia,
18:41
Speaker 1: racism and bigger three are going to continue to reign supreme. Absolutely. Uh.
18:46
Speaker 1: You were from North Carolina, born in North Carolina, grew
18:48
Speaker 1: up in Denmark, South Carolina, home of a Piggy Wiggly store. Okay,
18:53
Speaker 1: that's right now, you stay in your book. Are legal
18:56
Speaker 1: desegregation ended in Denmark in the seventy two I'm from Houston.
19:01
Speaker 1: That was my freshman year in high school. The fact
19:04
Speaker 1: that I'm living, I'm where worlds away from you, and
19:08
Speaker 1: you said legal desegregation in it in Denmark and eight
19:11
Speaker 1: senty too, so that imbalance of what we call freedom
19:15
Speaker 1: of the opportunity to succesed was not available to all
19:18
Speaker 1: blacks on all parts of the country at the same time.
19:21
Speaker 1: How was it growing up in the community like Denmark,
19:24
Speaker 1: South Carolina. I mean, so Denmark was an interesting community
19:28
Speaker 1: because we had you know, we had train tracks that
19:30
Speaker 1: went north, south, east and west, which was rare in
19:32
Speaker 1: the south. We had a bubbling we have bubbling small businesses.
19:36
Speaker 1: We had two historically black colleges and Universe one of
19:40
Speaker 1: the two year technical college. Um, you know where I
19:43
Speaker 1: get friend and rest of Peace. J Anthony Brown used
19:45
Speaker 1: to go to Denmark. That's my boy. UM. And Varies
19:49
Speaker 1: and Varies College and so you you we had those
19:53
Speaker 1: two colleges. We and it was the epitome of UM,
19:57
Speaker 1: these black small towns which had is upward economic mobility. UM.
20:02
Speaker 1: But when trade came through, um, you know, the manufacturing
20:06
Speaker 1: plants left, um, the small businesses shutter. Um. We when
20:10
Speaker 1: you know, government played its role in petty politics and
20:13
Speaker 1: we didn't expand medicaid. Um, you know, the the hospitals left. UM.
20:18
Speaker 1: And so people ask me what is it like now?
20:20
Speaker 1: And I say, I write about it clearly in My
20:22
Speaker 1: Vanishing Country. That's why one of the reasons that the
20:24
Speaker 1: title is my Vanishing Country. You know, when you look
20:28
Speaker 1: at when you look at places like this where a
20:30
Speaker 1: lot of black folk in the United States of America lived,
20:33
Speaker 1: you have food deserts where you can't go two or
20:36
Speaker 1: three miles and get healthy fruits and vegetables. Um, you
20:39
Speaker 1: have you have a lack of access to care. So
20:41
Speaker 1: my closest hospital is twenty thirty minutes away. Um, you're
20:45
Speaker 1: drinking dirty water. There are a hundred cities in the
20:47
Speaker 1: United States that have a um that have a water
20:50
Speaker 1: that's worse than Flint, Michigan. And many of those are
20:52
Speaker 1: black and brown cities. Um, You're you're breathing in dirty air.
20:56
Speaker 1: And so you you take all of these things, you
20:58
Speaker 1: take all of these systemic love is of injustice and oppression,
21:01
Speaker 1: and you layer them, um with Now we're in a pandemic. Um,
21:05
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's a really, really tough time to
21:09
Speaker 1: be black in America. That's a fact. Well that's that's
21:12
Speaker 1: that's very true. And I know I deal with it,
21:15
Speaker 1: and I um and I'm often time confused because I
21:18
Speaker 1: don't have options to how do I make it better?
21:21
Speaker 1: But the one way you can make it better unless,
21:23
Speaker 1: like you said, vote, exercise your right to vote. Participate,
21:27
Speaker 1: don't be at this, don't be a silent participant. But
21:31
Speaker 1: also don't let people take away you're hoping, and don't
21:33
Speaker 1: let people take away your faith. I'm very, very hopeful,
21:36
Speaker 1: and I maintain faith because I have to fight so
21:39
Speaker 1: that my children can be free. So you know, I
21:42
Speaker 1: don't I don't play it, pamp. I don't paint a
21:44
Speaker 1: dystopian view. I paint of view that's very real and honest,
21:48
Speaker 1: saying that we've made a lot of progress in this country,
21:50
Speaker 1: but we still have you other ways to go. And
21:52
Speaker 1: so now it's our duty. It's my duty to continue
21:55
Speaker 1: the legacy set forth by people like yourself, my parents, etcetera,
21:59
Speaker 1: and carry that but time forward, so that my children
22:01
Speaker 1: live in a better country. And I still believe in
22:03
Speaker 1: what Lincoln called the better angels of our nature. You know, uh, Paccari.
22:08
Speaker 1: When I when I was going through the book, and
22:09
Speaker 1: like I said, so many layers is a great book.
22:11
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about the book. My Advantaging Country, a
22:13
Speaker 1: memoir written by Baccari, sellers out of HarperCollins Publishing House. Um,
22:19
Speaker 1: your friend Pop, he was older than you. Um, he
22:22
Speaker 1: had aspirations until the death of his dad. Uh, and
22:27
Speaker 1: he chose sports and Uh. There's so many Pops in
22:32
Speaker 1: our neighborhoods I can remember. I have a version of
22:35
Speaker 1: Pop that grew up with me and didn't He made
22:39
Speaker 1: it out, but he didn't accomplish what he should have
22:41
Speaker 1: been able to accomplish because of mistakes, and we should
22:43
Speaker 1: all be able to overcome our mistakes. Talk to us
22:46
Speaker 1: about Pop from your neighborhood in Denmark, South Carolina. So
22:49
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if Pop will hear this
22:53
Speaker 1: episode of me on money making conversationshad Where's he based there? Now?
22:57
Speaker 1: Where's he was he living there? Right now? He didn't
23:00
Speaker 1: in Mark College campus radio station. Good well, good well.
23:05
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure he listens to it. And the
23:07
Speaker 1: reason being is because I want Pop to know that
23:09
Speaker 1: he was a success. You know, we always have this tension.
23:12
Speaker 1: We always have this these these very difficult conversations, and
23:16
Speaker 1: you know, Pop is very emblematic of what it means
23:19
Speaker 1: to be a black man in this country and trying
23:21
Speaker 1: to overcome um. Even though you have those obstacles that
23:25
Speaker 1: are placed in front of you and my family, we
23:27
Speaker 1: opened our doors to Pop. Pop is my brother. He
23:29
Speaker 1: has a piece of my heart always will. And so
23:31
Speaker 1: you know, I feel challenged sometimes and difficulty trying to
23:34
Speaker 1: figure out, UM, you know, how we can improve the
23:37
Speaker 1: relationship and which which direction we should go in. UM.
23:41
Speaker 1: But even more, but even more importantly UM, as he
23:45
Speaker 1: grows into being a father, as he continues to work hard,
23:48
Speaker 1: and you know, he graduated from college and he's doing
23:50
Speaker 1: everything he should do. You know, he's a success. And
23:53
Speaker 1: while all he's going to do is make it make
23:55
Speaker 1: it easier for the next generation UM to to be better.
23:59
Speaker 1: And so you know, we have to lift up our
24:01
Speaker 1: brothers especially, and during this climate and during this time, well,
24:04
Speaker 1: you know, it's really important that you say that. And
24:06
Speaker 1: because it was it was a very UM I always say,
24:08
Speaker 1: you know, it's about opportunities. Are very UM poignant moment
24:11
Speaker 1: in your book when he says, why did y'all come
24:14
Speaker 1: get me? You know, and because he felt that if
24:17
Speaker 1: you guys would have gotten him, pulled him into y'all,
24:20
Speaker 1: because he basically lived your life. He was with you guys,
24:23
Speaker 1: but he lived on the other side of the track,
24:26
Speaker 1: and so and just just explained that that whole different
24:30
Speaker 1: world dynamic and how how it affected him and how
24:34
Speaker 1: it affected you and your sister and brother. So I
24:38
Speaker 1: mean it was humbling for us because, um, you know,
24:42
Speaker 1: we we were always aware of um, the blessings we
24:47
Speaker 1: had and even more aware and in tune to those
24:50
Speaker 1: who didn't. And so we were raised to make sure
24:54
Speaker 1: that anything we had, we we gave as much as possible.
24:57
Speaker 1: And my parents poured so much into Pop, just like
24:59
Speaker 1: they poured into us. And so um, the challenges, you know,
25:03
Speaker 1: what do you do with that? And it's me and
25:05
Speaker 1: challenge continue as me and Pop continue to grow older.
25:08
Speaker 1: We challenge each other right now to be better husbands
25:10
Speaker 1: and better fathers. And that's that's that is for us
25:14
Speaker 1: the definition of success. And um, I hope people read
25:17
Speaker 1: about Pop and realize how many pots they have in
25:19
Speaker 1: their life and just worry about not giving them a
25:21
Speaker 1: hand out, but giving them a hand up. Wow, that's great.
25:25
Speaker 1: I hope this book becomes a documentary because um, it's
25:30
Speaker 1: it's so many stories additional stories that I that motivated
25:34
Speaker 1: me out of this book. Bacari, I want to thank
25:36
Speaker 1: you for coming on the show to talk about your book.
25:38
Speaker 1: My Vaison country Men. As you can see man on
25:42
Speaker 1: WORL Day, I was reading your book and enjoying it.
25:44
Speaker 1: My man, I just didn't have the peanuts. That's all.
25:48
Speaker 1: I'll get some ball peanuts. Thank you so much for
25:50
Speaker 1: allowing me, somebody of your statue to utilize this platform
25:53
Speaker 1: and means a lot of humble So I'm grateful. Thank
25:55
Speaker 1: you so much. Definitely well put it in my If
25:56
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25:59
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28:22
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Speaker 1: making conversation. Terry Brown, Hey, thank you, thank you. I
28:32
Speaker 1: appreciate thank you for having me. And I said all that,
28:35
Speaker 1: then is he still talking about me? Is he still
28:37
Speaker 1: saying all those great things about my brain? How you
28:39
Speaker 1: doing that? There? Too much? When you get him a lot?
28:44
Speaker 1: Because you know, transition is what we all fear in life.
28:47
Speaker 1: You know, when you're getting the regular check and you
28:50
Speaker 1: get comfortable with their regular check and then all of
28:52
Speaker 1: the saying you're about you got the idea, and a
28:54
Speaker 1: lot of people don't support you on that idea. When
28:56
Speaker 1: you start talking about doing other things. Tell tell us
28:59
Speaker 1: about the trans from the you know, from uh forty
29:03
Speaker 1: hour week job, which of over time and making a
29:06
Speaker 1: good living to say, you know something, I'm a bead
29:08
Speaker 1: on me. Yeah, you know it's interesting. Um. Yeah. I
29:13
Speaker 1: started my this whole journey as a UM police officer
29:17
Speaker 1: in California, northern California, place called East Paul, Alto, and
29:21
Speaker 1: it was an interesting job. East Paul, too was the
29:26
Speaker 1: murder capital in ninety two. Ninety January ninety three, I
29:30
Speaker 1: went to robbery homside UM that presented is UM on
29:34
Speaker 1: set of challenges, of course, but you know, it was
29:38
Speaker 1: a lot of work, a lot of overtime, but it
29:39
Speaker 1: was a lot of working for someone else. And so
29:43
Speaker 1: I had a son who was, you know, getting up
29:46
Speaker 1: to the those formulative years, and you know, my daughter,
29:50
Speaker 1: I wasn't really there allowed for her, and so I said,
29:52
Speaker 1: you want my sun my mona. Wanted to have more
29:54
Speaker 1: control of my time. So my journey initially into the
29:59
Speaker 1: entrepreneur worship was simply because I wanted to spend more
30:02
Speaker 1: time with my son. The money I wasn't really concerned
30:05
Speaker 1: with initially. That comes later, um, But the transition for
30:10
Speaker 1: me was trying to figure out where I fit in
30:14
Speaker 1: in the private sector and what that looked like. I
30:17
Speaker 1: spent the first thirteen years of my life in law enforcement,
30:20
Speaker 1: and that was you know, that was pretty easy. I
30:23
Speaker 1: understood what my path was there. Um, the private shift
30:26
Speaker 1: is a little different. Now. Let mens you this. This
30:29
Speaker 1: is really interesting because when I when I when I
30:33
Speaker 1: gave your credit, it was talking about servicing executives, which
30:36
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's corporate executives and global celebrities. Those are
30:41
Speaker 1: two unique areas and they have to be treated differently. One,
30:46
Speaker 1: when you walk out there, the celebrities, they know who
30:48
Speaker 1: they are, so that means that the reaction in public
30:51
Speaker 1: is going to be different. But then executives, you know,
30:53
Speaker 1: a certain group of people may know who they are,
30:56
Speaker 1: which which makes for their security to be unique. Explained
30:59
Speaker 1: the difference in how your company happles both. You know,
31:06
Speaker 1: when you're talking about corporate executives, UH, a lot of
31:10
Speaker 1: times people really they don't have face regulations issue. Um
31:15
Speaker 1: people know about them through print, um and you know
31:19
Speaker 1: now and then you know on TV and in the news.
31:23
Speaker 1: But um, face recognition really doesn't come in and play
31:27
Speaker 1: a lot. Obviously, celebrities that you know they're waiting for
31:31
Speaker 1: you no matter where you go. UM, they could be
31:34
Speaker 1: You'll you'll see paparazzi at the hotel, You'll get to
31:38
Speaker 1: your your venue, your event, and they're they're meeting you there.
31:42
Speaker 1: So I mean it's it's a constant navigating between the
31:47
Speaker 1: paparasis that issue UM corporate executives, UM, you know there Uh,
31:56
Speaker 1: there are are protection for them centered around UM life
32:04
Speaker 1: challenges so they can mention exist, they can make a
32:07
Speaker 1: decision and it affect a lot of people's lives, their livelihoods.
32:12
Speaker 1: So those are real life issues. Celebrities, Uh, you know
32:16
Speaker 1: it's not the same UM, but you know, you kind
32:18
Speaker 1: of you know, with corporate execs, you you have that
32:22
Speaker 1: that space where you have the opportunity to play and
32:27
Speaker 1: pre plan what they're doing, their movements and things that
32:30
Speaker 1: issue celebrities all the time you're kind of flying off
32:33
Speaker 1: the cup. You're you know, you have to be flexible
32:35
Speaker 1: in your in your movement with celebrities. Well that's really
32:40
Speaker 1: it's because you know, I managed a major celebrity talent
32:43
Speaker 1: like Steve Harvey and currently Stephen A. Smith and both
32:48
Speaker 1: are different like Stephen Stephen A Smith he uh and
32:53
Speaker 1: and invites people to sign autographs and take pictures with
32:57
Speaker 1: Steve is a little bit more reluctance and do that.
33:00
Speaker 1: And so with that being said, you have to deal
33:02
Speaker 1: with that too, because different celebrities treat their fans or
33:06
Speaker 1: how people approach them different And how do you how
33:09
Speaker 1: do you how do you deal Let you sit down
33:11
Speaker 1: and talk to the talent, do you sit down and
33:13
Speaker 1: talk to the celebrities, or how that situation you should
33:15
Speaker 1: be handled by? How do you make recommendations? You know,
33:20
Speaker 1: initially you try to have that conversation with them so
33:22
Speaker 1: they know clearly understand what you're trying to do to
33:25
Speaker 1: keep them safe. Um. Celebrities, you always all your clients.
33:31
Speaker 1: You have to kind of understand they are and what
33:33
Speaker 1: they want, what they find uncomfortable, and you know what
33:39
Speaker 1: they find You know this this actually comfortable? Um Uh.
33:43
Speaker 1: You know I have Kevin Hart and Kevin is very
33:46
Speaker 1: very um uh open to his fan base. Um. He
33:51
Speaker 1: wants to be approachable and I think that's part of
33:54
Speaker 1: his charm and part of his brand. UM. But at
33:57
Speaker 1: the same time, you have to figure out and a
34:00
Speaker 1: split second, who um has you know, all terier motives?
34:04
Speaker 1: Who who presents a problem for us to move in
34:08
Speaker 1: and out of different environments. You know, who has UM
34:12
Speaker 1: ILL will towards him UM for whatever reason. You have
34:15
Speaker 1: to kind of figure that out with body language movement.
34:20
Speaker 1: They're movement into things of that nature, and it's kind
34:22
Speaker 1: of the average change in cop of invironment. But some
34:26
Speaker 1: some clients don't want to sign an autographs, some clients
34:29
Speaker 1: don't want the UM interaction general public, and you have
34:33
Speaker 1: to navigate through that and figure out how to you know,
34:36
Speaker 1: do it so that they don't look like the bad guy. Absolutely,
34:41
Speaker 1: and that that's really what it comes across. Especially in
34:43
Speaker 1: the age of social media, people can quickly troll you
34:46
Speaker 1: with negative posts and say you did this, and you
34:49
Speaker 1: could just be heading into an offer space or headed
34:51
Speaker 1: the side of an autograph or the autograph session has
34:54
Speaker 1: ended and you try to get out of the building
34:55
Speaker 1: to catch a flight, or sometimes they said this is
34:58
Speaker 1: what this is the cut off type and you have
35:00
Speaker 1: to go and so you have to be the bad
35:02
Speaker 1: guys are are all set of situation episode the escape route,
35:06
Speaker 1: and it really is when you when you got the
35:08
Speaker 1: talent like a Kevin Hall, you got to you got
35:10
Speaker 1: these high profile talents where they can move people thousands
35:13
Speaker 1: of people when they walk out into public into general street.
35:16
Speaker 1: They could just move bodies like that. And and when
35:19
Speaker 1: he said, it's really amazing how they can just work.
35:22
Speaker 1: I remember Steve and I we shut down them all
35:24
Speaker 1: one time. We had to go out the back door
35:25
Speaker 1: to get out of them all because of the fact
35:27
Speaker 1: that he could not go back out into the general
35:30
Speaker 1: populace population in the middle. I have a mall story
35:33
Speaker 1: with Kevin who went to the mall in Houston's Major
35:39
Speaker 1: Mall and Houston UM Galeria, UH Galeria, and we went
35:45
Speaker 1: to St. Laurent second floor. We walked in UM and
35:51
Speaker 1: I kid you not, within five minutes I looked outside
35:55
Speaker 1: the store and there were thousands of people. When outside
36:00
Speaker 1: the store, I walked out the store entrance to kind of,
36:06
Speaker 1: you know, see what was going on with it. It
36:08
Speaker 1: looked like, you know, and when I say thousands, I
36:12
Speaker 1: mean upstairs and downstairs. Police showed up. They told us
36:16
Speaker 1: we had to leave. You know, I needn't really appreciate
36:20
Speaker 1: that part of it. But then when he they explained
36:23
Speaker 1: you know, the you know, the problems with people running
36:28
Speaker 1: and potential be getting hurt or injured. I okay, I
36:31
Speaker 1: understand that, um, and so we we had to leave.
36:35
Speaker 1: But you're talking within five minutes. They didn't shut the
36:38
Speaker 1: mall down, but the mall was shut down because everyone
36:41
Speaker 1: was outside the store trying trying to get the games
36:44
Speaker 1: of Kevin Is. So those things happen and you have
36:47
Speaker 1: to figure that stuff out and quickly, too quickly too,
36:51
Speaker 1: and that then that comes across as as can be.
36:53
Speaker 1: Like you know, uh, fans can take that as a negative.
36:56
Speaker 1: Old man. He could top to stop and take one
36:59
Speaker 1: photo once, stop and take one photo. The other person's
37:02
Speaker 1: gonna want their photo. And so a lot of times
37:04
Speaker 1: you see celebrities say, okay, take the photo as I'm walking,
37:07
Speaker 1: Take the photo as I'm walking, because they if they stop,
37:11
Speaker 1: it's it's you cannot move forward anymore. It's really an
37:14
Speaker 1: interesting world because, like I said, you know, you represent
37:16
Speaker 1: one of the global faiths. So he go to England,
37:19
Speaker 1: somebody know he go to South Africa. Somebody knows he
37:22
Speaker 1: goes to Canada, somebody knows he go to Mexico, somebody
37:24
Speaker 1: knows he goes to Russia. Somebody's gonna know Kevin Hard
37:27
Speaker 1: when you got to face that visible, it does create problems.
37:31
Speaker 1: But then again, when you have corporate execs, they want
37:34
Speaker 1: that same type of security, they want that same type
37:36
Speaker 1: of uh handling because they feel they're equally important. Because
37:41
Speaker 1: a lot of times, I'm gonna ask you the question,
37:43
Speaker 1: a lot of times celebrities have to be treated that way,
37:46
Speaker 1: especially when they travel out of the country. Have you
37:48
Speaker 1: had to deal with that taking up net celebrities. Let
37:50
Speaker 1: me talking about corporate executives out of country, especially when
37:53
Speaker 1: they travel in Mexico. UM. Yeah, I've never been in Mexico.
37:58
Speaker 1: I take that back. Went to Mexico once time with
38:00
Speaker 1: the client. Uh, but it wasn't for business. But yeah,
38:03
Speaker 1: that's a different dynamic as well, because you've got to
38:05
Speaker 1: pay attention to the climate of the country that your
38:08
Speaker 1: your attended as civil arrest UM. In Mexico obviously, you
38:13
Speaker 1: know you have the kidnaping situation. That's a business onto
38:15
Speaker 1: itself down there. UM. You know, I think the biggest
38:19
Speaker 1: thing when you travel out the country is understanding the
38:21
Speaker 1: laws UM in those countries, because those laws are very
38:25
Speaker 1: different um from the laws that were used to being
38:29
Speaker 1: a police officer. UM. Yeah, it's it's very different. Time
38:33
Speaker 1: we went to UM and this is not South America.
38:36
Speaker 1: We went to Dubai and we had our radios, you know,
38:39
Speaker 1: for communication, and they took them. And because I saw
38:44
Speaker 1: they saw that as a uh equipment UM not suitable
38:51
Speaker 1: for their um their country, largely because it affects their
38:56
Speaker 1: communication system and a lot of people, you know, a
38:58
Speaker 1: lot of people in those countries, like you're infiltrating their
39:02
Speaker 1: their systems, right, So they took our radios. They took
39:06
Speaker 1: our radio. So you have to really I mean traveling abroad,
39:10
Speaker 1: that's a different animal onto itself. You have to clearly
39:14
Speaker 1: understand what those laws are. You have to clearly understand
39:18
Speaker 1: what the customs are, and you have to figure out
39:21
Speaker 1: a way either you're gonna get someone on the ground
39:23
Speaker 1: over there to move with you, or you have to
39:26
Speaker 1: move move gingerly, you know, through the land of those countries.
39:32
Speaker 1: Let meass your days. I'm talking to my man, Terry Brown.
39:34
Speaker 1: He's the CEO of Armor Bear Protective Services, as a
39:38
Speaker 1: multimillion dollars security firm, their services executives and global celebrities.
39:43
Speaker 1: One of his primary talents, we have to say, as
39:45
Speaker 1: a global celebrity is Kevin Hart. What what what are
39:48
Speaker 1: the code of ethics that you have to follow when
39:50
Speaker 1: you when you establish protective services agency. You know, every company,
39:57
Speaker 1: every person had their own set of code of ethics force.
40:00
Speaker 1: Me what I try to establish with my company is
40:04
Speaker 1: UM honor, uh, integrity, dependability, reliability, loyalty, UM those things.
40:11
Speaker 1: But also in addition to that, you know, you have
40:14
Speaker 1: to have a heart forgiving, you know, because in a sense,
40:18
Speaker 1: what we do is we serve our clients and you
40:20
Speaker 1: have to have a servant's heart. Get paid for you
40:23
Speaker 1: get paid nicely for it. But you know you do
40:26
Speaker 1: have to um have those other things. You know. Being dependable,
40:31
Speaker 1: there's no excuses not being where you need to be
40:34
Speaker 1: at the time you're supposed to be there. I mean,
40:35
Speaker 1: that's just that's that's UM executive protection one on one. Uh.
40:41
Speaker 1: Luckily for me, I learned that from law for my
40:44
Speaker 1: law force today. But yeah, just being dedicated, being honest,
40:50
Speaker 1: being dependable, being flexible. Flexibility is another go on because UM,
40:55
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, we're dealing with entertainment clients.
40:59
Speaker 1: You A lot of times what I'm trained to do,
41:02
Speaker 1: I don't get a chance to exercise those things. So
41:05
Speaker 1: you have to be flexible because there isn't a lot
41:09
Speaker 1: of flexibility there for YouTube or time for you to
41:14
Speaker 1: do what you you're trained to do to make sure
41:16
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41:19
Speaker 1: flexible and deal with the hand that you're giving. It's
41:22
Speaker 1: really it's true. Um, you know you was an undercover
41:27
Speaker 1: narcotics detective there lending homicide. Like you said, you know
41:30
Speaker 1: that's a dark side of life. And you want to
41:32
Speaker 1: just get into the entrepreneur field just to spend time
41:35
Speaker 1: with your son, just to just to be there when
41:37
Speaker 1: it was so much a for the hour, week or
41:39
Speaker 1: over times you have to spend. But also knowing that
41:41
Speaker 1: you have a son you have to raise and then
41:43
Speaker 1: you then you found and become the CEO Armor Bearer
41:46
Speaker 1: Protective Services. What is the key? A couple of key
41:49
Speaker 1: things that really established the growth of your company. Oh man,
41:54
Speaker 1: too many things that come to mind. Ra off the back. Um,
41:58
Speaker 1: well a little more. But but initially I have the
42:01
Speaker 1: support of a wonderful wife at home. My wife Chim,
42:04
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42:09
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42:13
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42:16
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42:19
Speaker 1: worry about what's going on at home. The second thing
42:22
Speaker 1: is I have a great team that works with me
42:25
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42:31
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42:35
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42:39
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42:42
Speaker 1: do it with the team effort. And UM, I have
42:45
Speaker 1: a team that I actually trust to give me the
42:49
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42:52
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42:56
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42:58
Speaker 1: other thing is um I think early on for me
43:01
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43:04
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43:07
Speaker 1: uh to educate myself to the private sector. So I
43:10
Speaker 1: feel like everyone who does something entrepreneurs, they need to
43:14
Speaker 1: become a student of their industry. So I read a lot.
43:19
Speaker 1: I make sure that I availed myself to differences in style. UM.
43:24
Speaker 1: A good friend of mine, he ruins a company in
43:27
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43:32
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43:35
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43:38
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43:40
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43:44
Speaker 1: does and his brand is just different from mine. And
43:48
Speaker 1: so it's just like I said, you have to become
43:50
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43:52
Speaker 1: everyone is different, everyone has something to offer, and no
43:55
Speaker 1: one's better than the other. You just try to be
43:58
Speaker 1: the best version of you. I totally agree with that.
44:01
Speaker 1: You know, the interesting thing about it that I want
44:03
Speaker 1: to just put on top of that is relationships are key.
44:07
Speaker 1: Your your your name, your brand is key because when
44:11
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44:14
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44:17
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44:20
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44:22
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44:25
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44:30
Speaker 1: that you're not the star. You're not the star. You
44:35
Speaker 1: are the person there to secure people, to make sure
44:38
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44:42
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44:45
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44:47
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44:49
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44:53
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44:54
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44:57
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45:02
Speaker 1: personal brand. Correct. Yeah, you know you have to be
45:06
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45:09
Speaker 1: gotta be okay with building help build someone else's brand.
45:12
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45:16
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45:19
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45:23
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45:27
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45:30
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45:34
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45:37
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45:41
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45:45
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45:47
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45:51
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45:54
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45:57
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46:02
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46:07
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46:10
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46:13
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46:17
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46:20
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46:22
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46:34
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46:43
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46:46
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46:49
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46:51
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46:55
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46:57
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Speaker 1: My man down in New Orleans right now Isai Whitlock Jr. Outible.
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49:11
Speaker 1: Call Your Honor. The Five Bloods is premiering on Netflix
49:15
Speaker 1: on June twelve. Please walk on to money main conversations
49:18
Speaker 1: my man Clark Peters who's in London, and Isaiah Whitlock Jr.
49:22
Speaker 1: Who was in New Orleans. How are you guys, fellows?
49:24
Speaker 1: How are you doing? Fellers? Very well? Thank you held
49:28
Speaker 1: a lovely introduction. Brother. Well, first of all, that's a
49:31
Speaker 1: shortened version of how great you guys resumes look. And
49:34
Speaker 1: I just appreciate you guys. Allow me to pull some
49:37
Speaker 1: nuggets out of your resume just to let the world
49:39
Speaker 1: know how special you two are and and and also
49:42
Speaker 1: how special this movie The Five Bloods is really about.
49:45
Speaker 1: But before I just want to act a question right
49:48
Speaker 1: quick for each one of you. Peters, how did you
49:50
Speaker 1: get started acting? And what was your first major project?
49:53
Speaker 1: Can you answer that question from me? Yes, I got
49:56
Speaker 1: started following my my older brother first of all, as
50:01
Speaker 1: as children, we always wanted to perform together. He went
50:03
Speaker 1: to Paris in around nineteen sixty eight or sixty nine
50:07
Speaker 1: somewhere on a sabbatical from school, and I went over
50:10
Speaker 1: to visit him while he was performing in the musical
50:12
Speaker 1: hair I Um Um. Short story is that he didn't
50:19
Speaker 1: show up one night, and I went on on his
50:21
Speaker 1: place and that was my first that was my first gig.
50:25
Speaker 1: The okay, you know, well and he didn't and he
50:30
Speaker 1: didn't bother to come back, so I think it. Okay,
50:32
Speaker 1: I got I got the family clever. You know, I'll
50:34
Speaker 1: make sure the families at least going to be represented.
50:36
Speaker 1: You know, man hockey ad, How did you started acting
50:42
Speaker 1: and what was your first major project? You know? I um,
50:46
Speaker 1: I got started acting. I had gone to college on
50:50
Speaker 1: a athletic scholarship and uh, one day Brittain mind said
50:55
Speaker 1: they were going to to audition for a play and
50:58
Speaker 1: if I wanted to come along, and I did it.
51:00
Speaker 1: They had me get up and read I got the part.
51:04
Speaker 1: She didn't. She never spoke to me again. Okay, okay,
51:13
Speaker 1: you know, but the way I like to look at it, know,
51:18
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how you got there, as long as
51:20
Speaker 1: you did. You know, it's been it's been quite a career.
51:22
Speaker 1: Well this it's beautiful. You know. He ran his brother
51:25
Speaker 1: out of the country and you just stopped talking to somebody.
51:27
Speaker 1: I love that. That's that I'm talking to my man.
51:32
Speaker 1: Clark Peters and Isaiah went like Jr. There're two stars
51:35
Speaker 1: of the movie The Five Bloods, which will be premiered
51:37
Speaker 1: on Netflix on June twelve. Now, The Five Bloods moved
51:40
Speaker 1: by five guys who served time together in Vietnam, but
51:44
Speaker 1: it's also a movie by black history, if you guys
51:46
Speaker 1: can expound, because that's really Spike Gleeman. He's something else. Now.
51:50
Speaker 1: You know, I'm enjoying the movie and he just dropping
51:52
Speaker 1: these nuggets. And I was. I was sitting to my wife,
51:54
Speaker 1: I go, you know, he telling us about black history.
51:56
Speaker 1: You know. She said, Yeah, that's that's black history right there.
51:59
Speaker 1: That's black his you right there. And so that was
52:01
Speaker 1: beautiful high laid that in there. Comment on that, both
52:05
Speaker 1: of y'all, I'd like to hear from both sides of it.
52:08
Speaker 1: Go ahead, I'll folliva. Well, you know, I don't think
52:12
Speaker 1: you can do one with this movie. I don't think
52:14
Speaker 1: you could do one without the other, because I think
52:17
Speaker 1: by dropping, you know, those nuggets of black history into
52:22
Speaker 1: the film, you began to understand the dynamics of what
52:25
Speaker 1: these brothers were going through, you know, and uh, what
52:29
Speaker 1: they were feeling. So you had to do To me,
52:32
Speaker 1: it always seemed like you had to do both together
52:35
Speaker 1: to be able to get the impact. If you just
52:37
Speaker 1: did one you didn't quite get it, but when you
52:40
Speaker 1: sort of backed it up with that Black History lesson,
52:44
Speaker 1: you began to see and understand and feel the dynamics
52:48
Speaker 1: of the film. Also, I think what what you're getting
52:53
Speaker 1: is not only the the the context of in which
52:57
Speaker 1: these men were serving, but you're also getting their point
53:01
Speaker 1: of view on the existence of African Americans in the
53:07
Speaker 1: States and the and the breadth of experiences that we
53:11
Speaker 1: have politically and spiritually, so forth and so on. And
53:14
Speaker 1: yet as diverse as these brothers were, you know, they
53:20
Speaker 1: had all gone in separate ways once they once they
53:23
Speaker 1: left and had a merit of experiences, yet they still
53:27
Speaker 1: maintain the love for each other, which appears to be
53:31
Speaker 1: somewhere missing today. You know, that type of that that
53:35
Speaker 1: type of brotherhood, and even that is commented on on
53:38
Speaker 1: in the in the in the piece, and Spike has
53:41
Speaker 1: a way of doing that. You know, I'm glad that
53:43
Speaker 1: he I'm glad he's the megaphone you know for uh,
53:46
Speaker 1: you know, for for for us. You know there should
53:49
Speaker 1: be more, but you know, we understand the context within
53:51
Speaker 1: which he exists, you know, in that world, and just
53:55
Speaker 1: so many are going to get out there to reach
53:57
Speaker 1: just so many, you know, but I'm glad. I'm glad
54:01
Speaker 1: that we were certainly a part of part of this.
54:03
Speaker 1: You know that our craft is food. That's how our
54:05
Speaker 1: craft should be used, you know, for sure, we know
54:08
Speaker 1: the beauty of this movie was. First of all, it
54:10
Speaker 1: was let's let's break down the character to Five Bloods
54:13
Speaker 1: consisted of Storm and Norman. That was played by the
54:16
Speaker 1: Black Panther he always been known as the Black Panther,
54:19
Speaker 1: Chadwick Boseman. And then my brother Paul as I was
54:22
Speaker 1: playing his character is played by Darry Orlando and Eddie
54:25
Speaker 1: that was norm Lewis Otis that was you Pluck Peters
54:29
Speaker 1: and then Melvin use Isaiah or that was Malvine was
54:32
Speaker 1: played by Isaiah with Lock Jr. Also on this journey
54:34
Speaker 1: was Paul's son, which is David, played by Jonathan Major's. Now,
54:40
Speaker 1: you guys, first of all, the music was outstanding. That
54:42
Speaker 1: music should have been just a tribute to Marvin Gaye
54:45
Speaker 1: because uh it was it, Yes, yes, you know, his
54:49
Speaker 1: brilliance of Uh it was timeless because I guess what,
54:53
Speaker 1: it's one of the all time great albums at the
54:55
Speaker 1: time and just a generational talent because that music is
54:59
Speaker 1: h can be played right now and be very relevant.
55:02
Speaker 1: Now when you guys got the script? Okay, because what's
55:06
Speaker 1: it set in Vietnam? What you guys shooting locally? What
55:08
Speaker 1: did you shoot at the movie at we're both Vietnam
55:12
Speaker 1: and Thailand? Uh? Pretty much the Jungles of Tiler or
55:18
Speaker 1: the Jungles. Okay, cool? Now, I have fun watching you
55:21
Speaker 1: guys try to dance. Okay, in the beginning, Okay, I'm
55:24
Speaker 1: just gonna throw it out there. You know, you know,
55:27
Speaker 1: oh no, no, I said you had that little said
55:29
Speaker 1: I said you had that little skippy going, the little
55:31
Speaker 1: skippy hop going. I was getting the ground now, I was,
55:34
Speaker 1: I was ground, okay. And then and then Peter's he
55:38
Speaker 1: gonna close out with the funky chicken. You know, you
55:41
Speaker 1: can't dance if you're doing the funky chicken. You know,
55:46
Speaker 1: you know, I had a drink in my hand hand.
55:49
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true.
55:51
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. That's true. So so I'm filming
55:55
Speaker 1: the poculas now, jam and what you guys, Damn, what
55:58
Speaker 1: you guys say? Okay, Peter's he can't dance, he's doing
56:00
Speaker 1: the chicken at least Is said, you was hanging in
56:03
Speaker 1: there with the little Drake had that little rock step
56:05
Speaker 1: going and Darrel, are you know he really had the
56:09
Speaker 1: little like Darrel dancing closer to me because let me,
56:11
Speaker 1: I don't say hey, so Darrow kind of had my
56:14
Speaker 1: my smoothness. And and Paul norm we need to stop. No,
56:18
Speaker 1: I'm really really need to stop acting like his a
56:22
Speaker 1: little pigeon told Knock needed behind. He really need to
56:25
Speaker 1: stop acting like he could bass the part you didn't
56:30
Speaker 1: think was getting oxygen. Oh, this is fun, This is fun,
56:39
Speaker 1: and I'm having fun with you, cause don't let everybody
56:42
Speaker 1: know this is a reunion movie. But it's also it's
56:45
Speaker 1: a family movie and it's my friends learning about each other.
56:50
Speaker 1: And then it's a treasure hunting movie too, m m
56:56
Speaker 1: with the Treasure of Sierra. Yeah, you know, it was
57:01
Speaker 1: so fun. I was, I'm watching the movie. I said,
57:03
Speaker 1: you know what, I was just gonna be real like you,
57:05
Speaker 1: I've never seen this in a black movie like this,
57:07
Speaker 1: not just usually that's what spike do You spike and
57:11
Speaker 1: give you something that you never saw and I supposedly
57:13
Speaker 1: drawn genrous and y'all did it so well. You got
57:16
Speaker 1: you out to Isaiah with the Metal Detective. You were
57:18
Speaker 1: funniest heck. You know, Peters, you out there with a
57:21
Speaker 1: bad hip. You was funniest heck and stubborn with a
57:24
Speaker 1: bad hip. So so I'll start with you, Isaiah, tell
57:28
Speaker 1: everybody about your character because we're gonna have fun with this,
57:30
Speaker 1: and then Peters you follow him up. Okay, you know
57:35
Speaker 1: Melbourne Melvine, he was. He was. He was supposed to
57:38
Speaker 1: be the youngest of the group, and he had lied,
57:41
Speaker 1: he had lied about his age to get into the service.
57:44
Speaker 1: But he was sort of like this free spirit. You know,
57:47
Speaker 1: he didn't really he didn't really have the you know,
57:50
Speaker 1: those strong moral values and things like that. I mean,
57:53
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say he didn't have any, but he
57:55
Speaker 1: was more of a black and white kind of person.
57:58
Speaker 1: It is what it is. Uh, you know, you you
58:02
Speaker 1: want to you want to talk about reparations. Well, I'm
58:04
Speaker 1: looking at all this gold here. I got mine, you know, right.
58:09
Speaker 1: So he you know, he was, he was, you know,
58:11
Speaker 1: he was pretty much a matter of fact, that being said,
58:15
Speaker 1: you know, when push came to shove, I mean, he was,
58:18
Speaker 1: he was. He was a real soldier and he was
58:21
Speaker 1: he was very protective with the guys around him, and um,
58:26
Speaker 1: uh you couldn't. You couldn't really sell them short, you know.
58:29
Speaker 1: But I wanted people to sort of feel that, you know,
58:34
Speaker 1: that you know, he was a bit up, a fun
58:35
Speaker 1: loving guy. I mean, you know, he's the first time
58:38
Speaker 1: you see us in the movie. I'm at the counter
58:42
Speaker 1: my credit card, but I got a drink already. I
58:45
Speaker 1: saw that. I saw that he gonna come and try
58:50
Speaker 1: and whipped out his black card like he's somebody I
58:54
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta drink. Before I even checked in, I
58:58
Speaker 1: came there to do I care. And you know the
59:05
Speaker 1: thing is, I had to explain to someone the other
59:08
Speaker 1: day about the DAPT because they had seen the movie
59:13
Speaker 1: and they said, well, you know, I like the way
59:14
Speaker 1: Spike uh he added some modern touches. And I said,
59:18
Speaker 1: what do you mean. They said, well, the handshakes and
59:20
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And I said, no, no, no, that's
59:25
Speaker 1: that's all of that started during the Vietnam War. That's
59:29
Speaker 1: not you know, uh, that's not a basketball thing. I
59:34
Speaker 1: see it, you know, And I said, you know, all
59:36
Speaker 1: of that came out of that. But it was there
59:40
Speaker 1: was there was there was, there was a bond there
59:42
Speaker 1: and it showed like what part of Vietnam you had
59:45
Speaker 1: served it where from? Things like that, So you really
59:49
Speaker 1: had to kind of embrace it and um. And that's
59:53
Speaker 1: what my character did and it was great. All right there, Clark,
59:58
Speaker 1: I apologize. Uh what a death was supposed to have?
1:00:03
Speaker 1: It is an an acronym for something. I can't quite
1:00:05
Speaker 1: remember what it what it was for d A P.
1:00:07
Speaker 1: What was that? Can you remember, Isaiah? I can't remember. No, Yeah, yeah,
1:00:13
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's um. It was an an acronym
1:00:15
Speaker 1: for something I can't I can't quite remember. But when
1:00:18
Speaker 1: we realized that that it was more than just a greeting,
1:00:22
Speaker 1: it took on a whole another thing. I think for
1:00:24
Speaker 1: all of us. You know, it's you know, because not
1:00:28
Speaker 1: not everyone, not everyone had the same the same depth,
1:00:33
Speaker 1: you know, so you knew that if you gave a
1:00:36
Speaker 1: certain depth, that you were from a certain unit in
1:00:38
Speaker 1: a certain time, and you know, it was it was
1:00:42
Speaker 1: it was our drum. It was it was it was
1:00:46
Speaker 1: our drum. You know, they can take away to drum,
1:00:49
Speaker 1: but they can't take away to skin. What what? What
1:00:52
Speaker 1: I also realized was that even if we were doing it,
1:00:56
Speaker 1: we all had our we all had our favorite death. Yea,
1:01:00
Speaker 1: some there were some who were better than others in
1:01:03
Speaker 1: certain areas of the death. And we all had our
1:01:06
Speaker 1: favorite depth. But you have to learn all of them
1:01:09
Speaker 1: because you never knew what you were going to get
1:01:10
Speaker 1: hit with. You know. That's that's that that part of
1:01:15
Speaker 1: the dapping program. I would have been left off. I've
1:01:17
Speaker 1: been left off the dapping pack. And I was born
1:01:21
Speaker 1: in that era. I was born in the era the bump,
1:01:23
Speaker 1: all that good stuff, Folking Chicken, I had it all down, pat.
1:01:27
Speaker 1: The great thing about your character, Peters was that you
1:01:31
Speaker 1: are medic and so and I said, that's great because
1:01:34
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen you know, that shows that there
1:01:36
Speaker 1: was educated black men participating other than just shooting the gun.
1:01:40
Speaker 1: You were saving lives. And I think that was a
1:01:41
Speaker 1: calculated character development for Spike in this movie. Correct, Yes,
1:01:47
Speaker 1: I thought. Uh. And and also with with his history,
1:01:49
Speaker 1: you know, and with these particular brothers, with these five bloods,
1:01:53
Speaker 1: you know, he had seen parts of their bodies and
1:01:56
Speaker 1: inside that they had never seen before. You know, the
1:02:00
Speaker 1: know he is he taking bullets out of them, He
1:02:02
Speaker 1: showed them up, you know. Uh, he kept their morale
1:02:06
Speaker 1: together in the in the field and as we see
1:02:09
Speaker 1: also later on when when we when we had the reunion,
1:02:12
Speaker 1: you know, I love his humanity. I love that that
1:02:17
Speaker 1: that we are allowed to express our humanity like this
1:02:21
Speaker 1: because he's not a fictitious character. You know. There were
1:02:26
Speaker 1: brothers like this, and there are brothers like this and
1:02:29
Speaker 1: women who are like this today, you know. So you know,
1:02:33
Speaker 1: it was it was an honor to celebrate to where
1:02:37
Speaker 1: that that that persona you know, For myself, I find
1:02:40
Speaker 1: it easy because I love these brothers, you know, I
1:02:43
Speaker 1: love them off off the camera, you know, Isaia and
1:02:48
Speaker 1: I go go way back, you know, So it's easy.
1:02:51
Speaker 1: It's easy to have this camaraderie and have this fun,
1:02:54
Speaker 1: you know, and to look after them and aren't they enough?
1:02:57
Speaker 1: You feel like you you know, it's sometimes you I
1:03:00
Speaker 1: supposed to carry your your your work home, you know,
1:03:03
Speaker 1: but I didn't mind carrying Otis back back to the
1:03:06
Speaker 1: hotel with me, you know most nights, you know, and
1:03:08
Speaker 1: still hanging on out with with the brothers and keeping
1:03:10
Speaker 1: an eye on them. You know, we were we were
1:03:13
Speaker 1: in a situation over there in Thailand last year where
1:03:16
Speaker 1: we were wearing masks, you know, because because the weather
1:03:20
Speaker 1: was so bad and I found myself making sure that
1:03:24
Speaker 1: you know, we all right. You know, you know that's
1:03:29
Speaker 1: awesome thing. We also needed one another, you know, I
1:03:34
Speaker 1: mean such ah. You know, we knew what we were
1:03:37
Speaker 1: in for. The days were hard, the days were long,
1:03:40
Speaker 1: the days were not and we just desperately needed one another.
1:03:45
Speaker 1: We needed to pick each other up and make sure
1:03:47
Speaker 1: that each other were okay. I think it was hot.
1:03:50
Speaker 1: I know it got hot when I was out there
1:03:51
Speaker 1: looking for the goal, that it got hot there because
1:03:55
Speaker 1: I was there, You looked like it was hot. You
1:03:57
Speaker 1: looked like when you said, look, man, I'm looking for
1:04:00
Speaker 1: the goal. I ain't picking up nothing. I said, he
1:04:03
Speaker 1: ain't acting now, honey, he's not acting. It was remember said,
1:04:10
Speaker 1: he's got acting before I'm talking to my man. Clark
1:04:14
Speaker 1: Peters and Isaiah with Lock of two stars of the
1:04:16
Speaker 1: movie The Five Bloods, premier on Netflix on June twelve.
1:04:19
Speaker 1: What you're about saying, Isaiah, No, but there was there
1:04:23
Speaker 1: was one shot in the movie where I looked at
1:04:25
Speaker 1: myself and I said, I said, then I really looked
1:04:27
Speaker 1: that damn bad. It just seemed like each other. Hey man,
1:04:34
Speaker 1: hey man, when you was out there looking for that
1:04:37
Speaker 1: if Isaiah when you was out there looking for painting.
1:04:39
Speaker 1: You don't had your little meter out there, little melo detector.
1:04:42
Speaker 1: You You were hot, brother, you were hot. You're looking
1:04:45
Speaker 1: for some cold water, some ice water, some act were
1:04:49
Speaker 1: they gonna call cut something here because this is some
1:04:53
Speaker 1: real heat out here my trailers. What I was looking for.
1:05:04
Speaker 1: It's two other dynamic characters that Paul. I mean, I
1:05:07
Speaker 1: just gotta said by Darryl or Lindo what he did
1:05:10
Speaker 1: in this movie as the character Paul. I'm gonna tell
1:05:14
Speaker 1: you all you guys get fantastic jobs, amazing job. He
1:05:18
Speaker 1: has some monologues. Man, if we don't see him in
1:05:21
Speaker 1: some nominations in the fall, I'm gonna be really really
1:05:25
Speaker 1: hurt because then he laid it out to make sure,
1:05:30
Speaker 1: make sure you express that hurt there too, Russian, because
1:05:33
Speaker 1: you know there's there's uh that one scene where he
1:05:36
Speaker 1: walks off, you know, and he right, you know what
1:05:40
Speaker 1: I'm talking on that particular day, you know, it was
1:05:46
Speaker 1: it was a pretty intense day. Do you remember this Isaiah?
1:05:49
Speaker 1: He walked off and it was like God was with him,
1:05:53
Speaker 1: Nature was with him, because a storm came up from nowhere,
1:05:59
Speaker 1: a star came up from nowhere, and my man was
1:06:02
Speaker 1: just riding the energy of that storm. And you couldn't
1:06:06
Speaker 1: help but to feel. You couldn't help but to feel
1:06:10
Speaker 1: the emotion and wherever he was going in his spirit
1:06:14
Speaker 1: right to find that the Earth and God was with him.
1:06:17
Speaker 1: And we hope that that comes on through. It does
1:06:21
Speaker 1: it does? It does? First of all, it's a hurt
1:06:23
Speaker 1: soul or all you guys, his character was the hurt character.
1:06:27
Speaker 1: The character who was still carrying Vietnam window. Later on
1:06:31
Speaker 1: we find out why, but he still was carrying PTSD
1:06:35
Speaker 1: was all in his spirit. He never was able to
1:06:37
Speaker 1: walk away or have a life, or have a life
1:06:40
Speaker 1: with his son who and his son? I want to
1:06:43
Speaker 1: get more detail, but that the whole breakdown was amazing
1:06:47
Speaker 1: and told a different story besides the five bloods and
1:06:50
Speaker 1: that relationships as it grew out. But it was interesting.
1:06:53
Speaker 1: I was reading the article about that, uh that Spike
1:06:56
Speaker 1: Lee said. He said, there was no c G I
1:06:58
Speaker 1: budget to make you make my man look doing the flashbacks. Okay,
1:07:01
Speaker 1: that's what Spike said. And I'm gonna tell you guys something.
1:07:04
Speaker 1: You know, I always your people when you dream or
1:07:08
Speaker 1: you think back, you never see yourself when you dream
1:07:11
Speaker 1: and you think, God, you only see what you see, okay.
1:07:15
Speaker 1: And so so when you guys were having those flashbacks,
1:07:18
Speaker 1: I always saw it from you guys perspective. He was
1:07:22
Speaker 1: supposed to be younger. Okay, he was, because it would
1:07:25
Speaker 1: be told from your perspectives. And if first of all
1:07:28
Speaker 1: such brilliant acting, it didn't matter. So I was I
1:07:31
Speaker 1: always stayed in the moment during the flashbacks because you
1:07:36
Speaker 1: guys were going back to where you were thinking about
1:07:38
Speaker 1: when you're younger. Hey, whenever I think about somebody but you,
1:07:41
Speaker 1: I hope the God, I don't think of somebody look
1:07:44
Speaker 1: at my age now in the seventies. When I'm thinking
1:07:46
Speaker 1: about how that person looking into seventies, that person looks
1:07:49
Speaker 1: like that person in the seventies, and I am who
1:07:51
Speaker 1: I am today. It was brilliantly I know he said that,
1:07:54
Speaker 1: but I you want to tell you guys, it were
1:08:00
Speaker 1: The thing is that when you started tinkering, tinkering around
1:08:03
Speaker 1: with the c G I you know, then the audience,
1:08:06
Speaker 1: the audience watching it, they're they're they're they're no longer
1:08:11
Speaker 1: paying attention to the story, right, they're paying attention to
1:08:15
Speaker 1: you trying to look younger. Yes, and by by us
1:08:19
Speaker 1: just being ourselves standing in a moment date in the story.
1:08:23
Speaker 1: Date in the moment date of the story. You didn't
1:08:25
Speaker 1: have you were you were not distracted. It's what I'm
1:08:28
Speaker 1: trying to say. Absolutely. I always tell people black and
1:08:30
Speaker 1: white movies, you had to act in black and white movie,
1:08:33
Speaker 1: you had to be able to act when they started
1:08:36
Speaker 1: adding that color and all that stuff. The background, the
1:08:38
Speaker 1: sunstee sunset was yellow. You know, they could have some
1:08:41
Speaker 1: bad acting when you guys went from from the younger
1:08:45
Speaker 1: character and then you went back to the Vietnam. I
1:08:48
Speaker 1: felt it was real. I felt the emotion, I felt
1:08:51
Speaker 1: the pain, I felt the journey. Just a fantastic jaw,
1:08:54
Speaker 1: A great movie. The Five Blood premiers June twelfth on Netflix.
1:08:58
Speaker 1: But before I go be, I'll be remissed because we
1:09:02
Speaker 1: know the times. We're both all three of us African
1:09:04
Speaker 1: American men, and we'll be remissed to talk about how
1:09:07
Speaker 1: this pandemic or COVID nineteen is affecting our community. Uh
1:09:12
Speaker 1: In April, when the when the CDC came out of
1:09:16
Speaker 1: the affective patients in Atlanta or African Americans in New Orleans,
1:09:21
Speaker 1: the state of Louisiana seven out of teen in Chicago,
1:09:26
Speaker 1: in Detroit. We are a race of people who are
1:09:31
Speaker 1: overly affected by this in a country that's not understanding
1:09:35
Speaker 1: how they can take care of themselves, let alone take
1:09:37
Speaker 1: care of us. Any comments on the team Russians? Kid?
1:09:41
Speaker 1: Can I can I put connect with this to you?
1:09:42
Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't in the States when when when
1:09:45
Speaker 1: the when that those figures came out? And and I
1:09:49
Speaker 1: don't want it, and I repeat this. I do not
1:09:52
Speaker 1: want to minimize the the pandemic or the importance of
1:09:57
Speaker 1: any virus that's in the air that is affecting human beings.
1:10:01
Speaker 1: I'm not minimizing that at all. But what you guys
1:10:05
Speaker 1: were getting over there as one bit of information, we
1:10:08
Speaker 1: were getting the complete opposite over here. What we got
1:10:12
Speaker 1: over here was that it was not something that was
1:10:15
Speaker 1: affecting people of color. What we got over here was
1:10:19
Speaker 1: that it was going after the after the elderly first,
1:10:24
Speaker 1: and those who were whose immune systems were compromised. It
1:10:28
Speaker 1: was and if anything, the young blood's over here was saying, well,
1:10:33
Speaker 1: it doesn't bother people of Afro Caribbean descent. That's what
1:10:38
Speaker 1: was going on here. Now, we've been around long enough,
1:10:43
Speaker 1: we've been around long enough to know how how a
1:10:47
Speaker 1: machine will will effect or use people of color, people
1:10:54
Speaker 1: of a lesser uh circumstance for its own means. You know,
1:11:00
Speaker 1: now we have not only the pandemic, but we also
1:11:05
Speaker 1: have this five G thing that's going up as well,
1:11:08
Speaker 1: running alongside right. Well, I see that and that, and
1:11:15
Speaker 1: that is exactly my point. We don't know. We don't know,
1:11:19
Speaker 1: because you get something over here, you get something over there.
1:11:22
Speaker 1: But what I do know is this is that Tuskegee
1:11:29
Speaker 1: was an experiment. You know. What I do know is
1:11:34
Speaker 1: that when the pilgrims came out over to the New
1:11:36
Speaker 1: Land and they wanted some they want some land, they
1:11:40
Speaker 1: gave the indigenous people some blankets. You know, I do
1:11:48
Speaker 1: know that according to history. You know, that first pandemic
1:11:52
Speaker 1: that came through in nineteen in the early nineteen hundreds
1:11:56
Speaker 1: was on the back of the introduction of X rays
1:11:59
Speaker 1: into the world old. So I'm and like I say,
1:12:04
Speaker 1: I'm saying there's not to minimize the the but I
1:12:09
Speaker 1: think that one needs to really be uh to think
1:12:14
Speaker 1: through and use your mind and do not give up
1:12:17
Speaker 1: the responsibility of your health to somebody else. Thank you.
1:12:23
Speaker 1: I agree with that do not give it up to
1:12:25
Speaker 1: somebody else. You know, God gave you that body and
1:12:29
Speaker 1: that mind for you to work within that temple and
1:12:32
Speaker 1: for you to keep that clean, for you look after that.
1:12:37
Speaker 1: But you know about I'm sorry, I'm sorry, no, but
1:12:42
Speaker 1: you know what I mean to cut you off, lark No, Yeah,
1:12:46
Speaker 1: I was pretty much done because like I'm moving to
1:12:48
Speaker 1: the edge of my seat now and I was standing
1:12:50
Speaker 1: up and I love it. I love it. Thank you,
1:12:54
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. People wanted to say. What I
1:12:57
Speaker 1: wanted to say was that I think this pandemic has
1:13:01
Speaker 1: really raised the veil on a deeper problem that has
1:13:05
Speaker 1: been that. You know, it's just like you're looking up
1:13:08
Speaker 1: underneath the hood and you're seeing, you know what the
1:13:11
Speaker 1: real problem is, uh, and starting to ask a lot
1:13:15
Speaker 1: of questions, Why why is it this way? Why do
1:13:18
Speaker 1: is there so much diabetes? High blood pressure? Why? Uh? Yes,
1:13:24
Speaker 1: why why are we why why are we in this
1:13:27
Speaker 1: type of situation? And the more you dig, the more
1:13:30
Speaker 1: you begin to realize that this is not This has
1:13:33
Speaker 1: been going on for years. I mean and I'm when
1:13:37
Speaker 1: I say years, I'm talking centuries and uh, and going forward,
1:13:44
Speaker 1: it needs to be fixed. All of this stuff about
1:13:47
Speaker 1: the heroes and essential people and everything like that. Uh,
1:13:51
Speaker 1: when this pandemic is over, if it's ever over, I
1:13:55
Speaker 1: want to see. I want to see what we do
1:13:58
Speaker 1: going forward. You want to if those that build essential
1:14:01
Speaker 1: people are taking care of, if those heroes are taking
1:14:05
Speaker 1: care of if if if things are are are are thick,
1:14:10
Speaker 1: if we need to go back to doing what we
1:14:12
Speaker 1: were doing, that's that's gonna be really sad. That's gonna
1:14:15
Speaker 1: be very you know, and and and you know what
1:14:19
Speaker 1: we do is all we have to do is look
1:14:21
Speaker 1: at the way that our veterans are being taken care of. Absolutely, absolutely,
1:14:27
Speaker 1: look at the way our veterans have been taken care of,
1:14:30
Speaker 1: you know, you know, and that's what this is all about. Hey, fellas,
1:14:34
Speaker 1: I want to thinking about heroes and I don't want
1:14:37
Speaker 1: to be one. Absolutely, here's the deal. I want to
1:14:40
Speaker 1: thank both of you guys for coming on the show. Uh,
1:14:42
Speaker 1: this first half talking to you guys, it's been amazingly fun.
1:14:45
Speaker 1: I don't want to know. They gave me a time limit.
1:14:47
Speaker 1: That's why I don't want to go beyond that. Clark
1:14:49
Speaker 1: Peters Eyes with Like Juniors, two of the stars of
1:14:52
Speaker 1: the Five Blood premiering on Netflix on Julish twelve. Guys,
1:14:55
Speaker 1: any closing comments before we get out of here, other
1:14:57
Speaker 1: than there's a great movie and go see on Netflix
1:15:00
Speaker 1: and uh, making a trending movie, making number one for
1:15:03
Speaker 1: about five or six weeks and let's get some million
1:15:06
Speaker 1: beings on it and all that good stuff. Because I'm
1:15:08
Speaker 1: been doing my part. First, I'm doing my part. Listen
1:15:12
Speaker 1: to let's to what Rashawn saying. It's I can put
1:15:20
Speaker 1: that on, put that on there, just what Rashawn says.
1:15:27
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Speaker 1: That's a great introduction. I love it well. First of all,
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1:18:28
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1:18:30
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Speaker 1: sure that I cover all spans, all spectrums of it
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Speaker 1: is to be a woman. It's not just one thing.
1:19:03
Speaker 1: You know, it really is important that you do that,
1:19:05
Speaker 1: especially in this era of social media. You know, a day,
1:19:09
Speaker 1: she just got posted that picture of her losing weight,
1:19:11
Speaker 1: and people will on her, you know, like she doesn't
1:19:14
Speaker 1: have an option. She she can't change her. She looks
1:19:18
Speaker 1: exactly and she to me, she's fabulous either way. But
1:19:21
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1:19:24
Speaker 1: her body. If she wants to be three hundred pounds
1:19:27
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1:19:30
Speaker 1: so I just feel like we need to be more mindful,
1:19:32
Speaker 1: especially as women, to just embrace who we are and
1:19:36
Speaker 1: help other women embraces they are. Well, that's why I
1:19:38
Speaker 1: wanted to get that out because I felt when I
1:19:40
Speaker 1: read that about you, you know, it was important because
1:19:43
Speaker 1: of the fact it wouldn't be in part of part
1:19:45
Speaker 1: of your bio, part of your DNA and then being
1:19:48
Speaker 1: the or model. You know, that's a very superficial world.
1:19:52
Speaker 1: You know a lot of you read a lot of
1:19:54
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1:19:57
Speaker 1: there's a short window for success and and there's a
1:20:00
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1:20:08
Speaker 1: are uncomfortable for you because you're just trying to get
1:20:11
Speaker 1: the opportunity. But it all goes back to how you look,
1:20:14
Speaker 1: and that's unfortunate. So when I see a Lizzo jumping
1:20:17
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1:20:21
Speaker 1: this always lets me know it's not so much about
1:20:23
Speaker 1: And I have a daughter who's twenty two, and it's
1:20:25
Speaker 1: important for her to be herself, you know. And when
1:20:29
Speaker 1: you said that statement, I said, I I gotta really
1:20:31
Speaker 1: expound on that a lot more because I felt it
1:20:33
Speaker 1: was important for you to say, this is what you do.
1:20:36
Speaker 1: You're in the you're in the beauty lane, you're in
1:20:37
Speaker 1: the entertainment lane, You're you're you're stepping out there and
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Speaker 1: your fans are following you. Your fans are recognizing you
1:20:44
Speaker 1: as a model of of a brand. Not so a
1:20:47
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1:20:50
Speaker 1: a model, a role model, I should say, a role model. Correct, absolutely, absolutely,
1:20:55
Speaker 1: And so I want to be conscientious of that when
1:20:57
Speaker 1: I'm promoting my stores and even promoting myself, that I
1:21:01
Speaker 1: don't put women in a box, because that's not it's
1:21:04
Speaker 1: not fair. No, we're gonna talk about the box in
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Speaker 1: the minute, subscription in a minute. So don't dump the gun.
1:21:08
Speaker 1: Don't dump the gun over. Let's talk about it. I
1:21:12
Speaker 1: said in your credit to a Bravo was married to
1:21:14
Speaker 1: Medicine Los Angeles. For my fans who may have not
1:21:17
Speaker 1: seen the show, and they are fans who have seen
1:21:19
Speaker 1: the show, please explain to everybody what exactly is married
1:21:22
Speaker 1: to medicine, and that's one question, and then i'mnna ask
1:21:25
Speaker 1: you how did you get involved? God? So, Married to
1:21:28
Speaker 1: Medicine is a concept um that was on the Broblem network.
1:21:32
Speaker 1: There's a show in Atlanta, been on the air for
1:21:35
Speaker 1: eight years and so recently in the last two years,
1:21:38
Speaker 1: Bravo has taken the concept here to l a um
1:21:40
Speaker 1: and it really just is about the black female positions.
1:21:43
Speaker 1: Half of the women on the show are doctors O. B. G.
1:21:46
Speaker 1: Y Enza and a psiologists and psychiatrists, and then the
1:21:50
Speaker 1: other women myself included, we're married to positions, and so
1:21:54
Speaker 1: you get to see the world of one medicine but
1:21:58
Speaker 1: also two black doctors, which to me is amazing because
1:22:01
Speaker 1: I don't know any other show on television that showcases
1:22:05
Speaker 1: black positions. And it's a great thing to be a
1:22:08
Speaker 1: part of. Right, So how did you get involved? Okay?
1:22:12
Speaker 1: So Amani who's one of the ladies on the show
1:22:15
Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles, doctor Monty, she's a psychiatrist. Her
1:22:18
Speaker 1: husband yes, yes, so they met because they worked together
1:22:23
Speaker 1: and so I was interested to money through my husband. Okay,
1:22:26
Speaker 1: So here's a deal. Okay, So you have a brand
1:22:29
Speaker 1: and if we hear horror stories, you know, basketball, while
1:22:32
Speaker 1: I set a tone out there for what the reality
1:22:36
Speaker 1: shows could do, you know, going to cross table, throwing dishes,
1:22:40
Speaker 1: grabbing weaves, all that kind of stuff. When you told
1:22:44
Speaker 1: your friends, are you told your your love one that
1:22:47
Speaker 1: you may do this show? What were the thoughts that
1:22:49
Speaker 1: came out of their mouths? And did you have to
1:22:51
Speaker 1: calm them dad? Or did you have to do you
1:22:52
Speaker 1: just pitched them ahead of tip to cut off any
1:22:55
Speaker 1: let them know that you're not gonna do anything crazy
1:22:58
Speaker 1: that they've seen, or they have an idea of what
1:23:00
Speaker 1: reality shows are doing. They don't do it as much
1:23:03
Speaker 1: as they used to do back in the day, but
1:23:04
Speaker 1: because I think they're more storyline driven. But back in
1:23:07
Speaker 1: the day they were a horror story. Yeah, there there were,
1:23:10
Speaker 1: and I'll be honest with you, there still are some
1:23:13
Speaker 1: um within this Bravo Maryson Medicine crew. Um, but I'll
1:23:17
Speaker 1: say I got mixed reviews. My husband was really supportive
1:23:20
Speaker 1: because obviously we had watched the show before because the
1:23:22
Speaker 1: money was on it, and so we liked what we saw. Um,
1:23:26
Speaker 1: But other family members that were like, girl, you have employees,
1:23:30
Speaker 1: be very careful, right right, You're mentored to these young girls.
1:23:35
Speaker 1: Most of the women that worked for me are under
1:23:37
Speaker 1: the age of so that was that whole that people
1:23:40
Speaker 1: are like, you know, just be very careful, and so
1:23:43
Speaker 1: I like that I am who I am with the
1:23:46
Speaker 1: camera crew. Without it, I'm just who I am. And
1:23:49
Speaker 1: so it's not always pretty, it's not always lovely, but
1:23:52
Speaker 1: I do do a lot of great things. So I'm
1:23:53
Speaker 1: happy that I'm seeing a hundred percent the way that
1:23:56
Speaker 1: I am. And you know, there's certain things I'm just
1:23:59
Speaker 1: not gonna do that you never see me, you know,
1:24:02
Speaker 1: climbing across the table, pulling someone's hair, but see me
1:24:06
Speaker 1: get you know, indignant or loud or you know, trying
1:24:10
Speaker 1: to get my point across. But I feel like that's
1:24:11
Speaker 1: true to who I am. So you'll never do something
1:24:14
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't do without a camera crew. There absolutely
1:24:17
Speaker 1: and I respect that. I feel that to me. I
1:24:20
Speaker 1: always tell people, you know, this is a this is
1:24:22
Speaker 1: a brand build for you, especially if you are brands
1:24:25
Speaker 1: that you want to sell and you're an entrepreneur, and
1:24:27
Speaker 1: I feel your small entrepreneur. And so my thought process
1:24:31
Speaker 1: when I heard and read you know, press release came
1:24:33
Speaker 1: out and I did a little research on your view.
1:24:36
Speaker 1: I've been following you before that before this interview. Now,
1:24:38
Speaker 1: you know, this ain't just an interview I just popped
1:24:41
Speaker 1: up on last week now, And because I always because
1:24:43
Speaker 1: I always look at why people do things, and I
1:24:45
Speaker 1: felt that there was a move for you to just
1:24:47
Speaker 1: grow your brand, to you know, to grow your social media,
1:24:50
Speaker 1: to put a face in front of your buildings and
1:24:52
Speaker 1: attract more revenue and also to expand your brand. Is
1:24:56
Speaker 1: that is that a course of action that I'm I'm
1:24:58
Speaker 1: speaking of correctly. Absolutely, as a business owner, you have
1:25:03
Speaker 1: to do things that are outside of your comfort zone
1:25:05
Speaker 1: for the betterment of your business. And this show is
1:25:07
Speaker 1: definitely something that for me was out of my comfort zone.
1:25:10
Speaker 1: But I recognize that it was going to be a
1:25:13
Speaker 1: platform that I mean, it's a gift. I mean, the
1:25:16
Speaker 1: platform like this a million viewers every week. There's no
1:25:19
Speaker 1: way that would be able to do that on my
1:25:22
Speaker 1: own without using tons and tons of capital. So this
1:25:25
Speaker 1: show definitely as a platform for me, but also the
1:25:28
Speaker 1: other women too, like I'm inspired and like you know,
1:25:31
Speaker 1: a money is coming out with a book, and so
1:25:34
Speaker 1: to utilize this platform in the right way, I think
1:25:36
Speaker 1: is a smart business decision so well that well, I agree.
1:25:41
Speaker 1: You will not hear me say anything negative about your
1:25:43
Speaker 1: role on the show. I'm just using these various questions
1:25:46
Speaker 1: just to educate people about everything. I think everybody we've
1:25:50
Speaker 1: got a lot smarter about social media, We've got a
1:25:52
Speaker 1: lot smarter about understanding our brand. And I think that
1:25:56
Speaker 1: everybody first just wanted to just get on TV and
1:25:59
Speaker 1: everybody away. They can be there the next Kardashian if
1:26:02
Speaker 1: they do something crazy. Okay, there's so crazy. We are Kadashian,
1:26:05
Speaker 1: you know, and we have a have a billion followers.
1:26:08
Speaker 1: But that's not the case. They have what what what people?
1:26:11
Speaker 1: I have seen that they're talented. They're not just pretty faces.
1:26:14
Speaker 1: These are business women too. If you look at them,
1:26:17
Speaker 1: they do business. It's just the same thing here, that's
1:26:20
Speaker 1: what you're doing. How since coming on the show, how
1:26:23
Speaker 1: has it impacted your social media growth? Let's go there first. Well,
1:26:28
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I realized that I wasn't
1:26:30
Speaker 1: using social media in the correct way, UM until I
1:26:34
Speaker 1: was on the show. Explain Explain, well, I just I
1:26:38
Speaker 1: used it as um. I didn't use it often, I
1:26:42
Speaker 1: didn't use it phrase that I was supposed to. I
1:26:44
Speaker 1: mean I posted sometimes that I wasn't really getting my
1:26:47
Speaker 1: message across. I think being on the show and having
1:26:50
Speaker 1: a machine behind you like Bravo, and having other women
1:26:53
Speaker 1: that came before me that did it correctly, especially in Atlanta,
1:26:56
Speaker 1: to use them as the blueprint. It helped me understand
1:27:00
Speaker 1: the way to do this right. You just don't like
1:27:02
Speaker 1: even the Kardashian you brought them up. They post, but
1:27:05
Speaker 1: their posts are very strategic. When they talk strategy, They're
1:27:09
Speaker 1: not just getting on just for the sake of you
1:27:11
Speaker 1: seeing them right. There's a message behind it. And so
1:27:15
Speaker 1: I'm learning that I have learned that, especially being on
1:27:17
Speaker 1: the show the last few months, that I have to
1:27:20
Speaker 1: be intentional with how it speaks to my audience. I
1:27:22
Speaker 1: have to understand and that has been helpful. Well, you know,
1:27:25
Speaker 1: I read something a long time ago about Kim Kardashian.
1:27:29
Speaker 1: She said that for every post she's take like of herself,
1:27:32
Speaker 1: she takes like my five hundred pictures, makes you sure?
1:27:35
Speaker 1: And and that taught me something that way, Okay, this
1:27:38
Speaker 1: is a business you know that just don't post any
1:27:41
Speaker 1: anything just to be posting it. Look at it, we
1:27:43
Speaker 1: look at justify why you're posting it. Make sure it's
1:27:45
Speaker 1: the best look of you when you post it, and
1:27:48
Speaker 1: then people because you're marketing, You're constantly marketing, and that's
1:27:52
Speaker 1: what social media is all about. And so because you've
1:27:54
Speaker 1: got a lot of brands that you have out there,
1:27:56
Speaker 1: and let's talk about let's go to the first one.
1:27:58
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to break after this one to come
1:28:00
Speaker 1: back and talk about the Cave, Girl, the girl Cave
1:28:02
Speaker 1: at Los Angeles. Wanna talk about the subscription. We wanna
1:28:05
Speaker 1: talk about juice bar? Oh did sports bar? You have
1:28:08
Speaker 1: a sports bar too? I have a sports bar in
1:28:10
Speaker 1: the city of Inglewood. Girl. I'm taying, we got so
1:28:13
Speaker 1: much to talk about in this next parade. She is
1:28:15
Speaker 1: a businesswoman. She is also one of the stars are
1:28:18
Speaker 1: Bravo's new Uh Weston is a new show because I
1:28:22
Speaker 1: say new and compared to Atlanta, it is kind of new,
1:28:24
Speaker 1: but it is. She's a new member of the team.
1:28:26
Speaker 1: Married to Medicine Los Angeles, which airs every Sunday Sunday night,
1:28:30
Speaker 1: nine East Coast, eighth Central, which is nine West Coast
1:28:33
Speaker 1: as well. Be right back with ms dies. How is
1:28:35
Speaker 1: ru Sean McDonald And you're listening to money making Conversation?
1:28:38
Speaker 1: I have a fantastic interview going along right here with
1:28:42
Speaker 1: the one of the stars are married to Medicine Los Angeles.
1:28:44
Speaker 1: In fact, she's the newest star if you haven't seen
1:28:47
Speaker 1: the shows on Bravo every Sunday night, nine Eastern West Coast,
1:28:51
Speaker 1: eighth Central MS diaz Uh. She's the proud owner of
1:28:54
Speaker 1: the Girl Cave Los Angeles, a chain of beauty supply
1:28:57
Speaker 1: stores and lifestyle brand and lifestyle brands in Los Angeles.
1:29:01
Speaker 1: She also has a juice bar which is Juice It
1:29:03
Speaker 1: Up l A. She also has a sports bar, champ
1:29:06
Speaker 1: City Bar, and she's a real estate mogul. So we're
1:29:08
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna get to breaking this down one time.
1:29:11
Speaker 1: We're gonna go this is gonna be our entire entrepreneur
1:29:13
Speaker 1: break about you. The first half was about your your
1:29:16
Speaker 1: concepts and everything. Not want to dig into your whole.
1:29:19
Speaker 1: You know what keeps you rolling, what keeps you motivating?
1:29:22
Speaker 1: Besides the show, it has to be the entrepreneurship. Tell
1:29:25
Speaker 1: us why it's important to be an entrepreneur, especially a
1:29:28
Speaker 1: female entrepreneur in in this day and age. You know what, Um,
1:29:35
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say. It's been a
1:29:37
Speaker 1: ride for me. It's been great. Part of what he's
1:29:40
Speaker 1: inspired is I have three kids, but I also have
1:29:43
Speaker 1: uh I desire just to be good, like to do
1:29:46
Speaker 1: good to you know, when I put something out, I
1:29:49
Speaker 1: wanted to to do well. And I think just in
1:29:52
Speaker 1: anything that I do, even if it's you know, making
1:29:55
Speaker 1: my bed in the morning, like, I want to do
1:29:57
Speaker 1: that well. And I think that that translates into my business.
1:30:00
Speaker 1: And I it's so much that we have going on
1:30:03
Speaker 1: and we just keep it going. And um, I don't
1:30:06
Speaker 1: even know where to start. We're gonna start at the
1:30:08
Speaker 1: Girl Cave or Zone mel Rose. That's that's that's the
1:30:12
Speaker 1: beauty location right on Mail Rose. So we've recently we've
1:30:16
Speaker 1: restructured the Girl came in the last and so that's
1:30:19
Speaker 1: part of my right. So when I got into this industry,
1:30:22
Speaker 1: I was not talking to my consumer. Listen, I'm a
1:30:24
Speaker 1: black girl from Inglewood. We like and so I was
1:30:28
Speaker 1: trying to be in an area of town where my
1:30:31
Speaker 1: customers weren't and they wanted to support me, but they didn't.
1:30:35
Speaker 1: It was hard for them to access my store. So
1:30:37
Speaker 1: I've recently closed what not recently, it's in the last
1:30:40
Speaker 1: year we've closed the Man the Melroll's location and we
1:30:43
Speaker 1: opened up the location in the city of Compton. So
1:30:46
Speaker 1: now we have three stores where in Inglewood, South, Los
1:30:48
Speaker 1: Angeles and Compton, and we've basically just dug in and
1:30:54
Speaker 1: everything that you can think about for grooming, hair care,
1:30:57
Speaker 1: nail care, waxing, everything could and go. We carry out
1:31:00
Speaker 1: the stores and so we have just restructured and it's
1:31:04
Speaker 1: been really good for us. Well, I love you know
1:31:07
Speaker 1: what you said. You know, Inglewood, Soft Los Angeles and Compton.
1:31:11
Speaker 1: That is the core of Black America in Los Angeles.
1:31:15
Speaker 1: That is your core audience that you're trying to reach.
1:31:16
Speaker 1: That's a loyal audience first of all, but also that's
1:31:19
Speaker 1: an audience that that that works at a certain price point.
1:31:22
Speaker 1: How do you work out the whole price point and
1:31:25
Speaker 1: making sure there are customers that come back to you.
1:31:27
Speaker 1: And this is where being married to medicine really in
1:31:30
Speaker 1: l A really helps your brand and those market shares
1:31:33
Speaker 1: that you just said your three stores are located at
1:31:36
Speaker 1: correct right, correct. So um, there's no secret that in
1:31:40
Speaker 1: the beauty supplied industry is not dominated by by black people.
1:31:45
Speaker 1: We we have issues sometimes as black owners getting competitive pricing.
1:31:49
Speaker 1: But I always say that that's not my customers problem,
1:31:52
Speaker 1: and that's my problem. And so I have to make
1:31:54
Speaker 1: sure that my pricing is competitive compared to other stores,
1:31:57
Speaker 1: even though I might pay a little bit more for
1:31:59
Speaker 1: the products because as UM a newer store, we've only
1:32:02
Speaker 1: been around for five years and in this industry that's
1:32:04
Speaker 1: considered new UM and maybe have the relationships with the distributors.
1:32:08
Speaker 1: So yeah, I do pay more for my products, but
1:32:10
Speaker 1: I also make sure that I just eat that costs
1:32:12
Speaker 1: and I don't pass it on to the consumer because
1:32:15
Speaker 1: my business issues are not their consumer issues, you know
1:32:17
Speaker 1: what I mean. So UM, Yeah, we stay competitive. I mean,
1:32:20
Speaker 1: I'm not ashamed of it. Sometimes I go into other
1:32:22
Speaker 1: beauty supply stores and see what that price point is
1:32:25
Speaker 1: so I can understand and my overcharging and my undercharging,
1:32:29
Speaker 1: like I want to eat my competition. Well, you know,
1:32:33
Speaker 1: you're getting kind of famous, so you just can't roll
1:32:37
Speaker 1: in there like you used to roll in there, you
1:32:38
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I'll just let you know.
1:32:40
Speaker 1: Now you can roll up and they're gonna start taking photos.
1:32:44
Speaker 1: Famous person in the store, famous person in the store.
1:32:50
Speaker 1: I need to go up, guys and send my daughter
1:32:52
Speaker 1: ere you go, you go but it's all good because
1:32:54
Speaker 1: I understand you're trying to make sure you stay competitive
1:32:56
Speaker 1: because in this business, people can lay you out to
1:33:00
Speaker 1: the social media. Oh she's pricey. All hard stuff is
1:33:03
Speaker 1: she doesn't deliver on time, and that those things are there.
1:33:06
Speaker 1: And so one thing I really loved, I told that
1:33:08
Speaker 1: I went online and was talking about it was just
1:33:11
Speaker 1: really positives, he said. Now offering local delivery, Hey loss
1:33:15
Speaker 1: as looking for essential beauty items, braiding hair and their
1:33:18
Speaker 1: care supplies. We have expanded the ways you can shop
1:33:22
Speaker 1: from all three of our locations, which is which is
1:33:24
Speaker 1: the Inglewood location, the Compter location, and soft Soft Los
1:33:27
Speaker 1: Angeles location. You deliver ship and provide curb side delivery
1:33:33
Speaker 1: that stand in the game. That is standing in the game.
1:33:36
Speaker 1: Talk to us about that. Well, I have to shift,
1:33:39
Speaker 1: and I mean in order to be successful, you have
1:33:41
Speaker 1: to move with the times and obviously with the shutdowns
1:33:45
Speaker 1: and um, you know, the virus going around. I have
1:33:48
Speaker 1: to make sure that I'm I'm saying in business, I
1:33:50
Speaker 1: got employees or paycheck and I'm you know, I'm invested
1:33:54
Speaker 1: in this. So we have to shift. We always had
1:33:56
Speaker 1: a website, but we're pushing that online so people understand that.
1:33:59
Speaker 1: And weve been getting orders literally from New Jersey, from Florida,
1:34:02
Speaker 1: from all over all over the country with push to
1:34:06
Speaker 1: push the website and then people just feel more comfortable
1:34:09
Speaker 1: shopping for essential goods online now, I mean, and so
1:34:12
Speaker 1: we have to meet the meet neat So we have
1:34:14
Speaker 1: a whole delivery team now, um and we're just out
1:34:18
Speaker 1: every day, every morning. We're assigning orders and we're getting
1:34:21
Speaker 1: them out so people get their orders within a few hours.
1:34:23
Speaker 1: And that's just been our new goal. We know it was.
1:34:26
Speaker 1: So it's so nice when you said we have a
1:34:28
Speaker 1: delivery team now you're so it's so proud of that
1:34:32
Speaker 1: because of the fact that one thing that's come out
1:34:35
Speaker 1: of the pandemic that we are dealing with it is
1:34:37
Speaker 1: is that black people have comfort the realization that technology
1:34:41
Speaker 1: has to become a part of their lifestyle. They have
1:34:44
Speaker 1: to embrace the online world out there that we've somehow battled.
1:34:48
Speaker 1: We used our phone just just to talk on or
1:34:51
Speaker 1: just to text on. Where our competitors are non African America,
1:34:55
Speaker 1: are non people of color, use their phone to operate
1:34:58
Speaker 1: on to do their business on the commune, Kate outside
1:35:01
Speaker 1: of texting and talking and so that has been I
1:35:04
Speaker 1: think one of the great blessings because you know, we
1:35:07
Speaker 1: know that African Americans have been overtly effective in a
1:35:11
Speaker 1: negative manner due to COVID nineteen. But from a communication standpoint,
1:35:15
Speaker 1: like you said online, that's what I love hearing what
1:35:17
Speaker 1: you're saying, because by just changing your business model, you're
1:35:21
Speaker 1: not just selling in the Los Angeles County area. You
1:35:25
Speaker 1: now in some ways maybe internationally selling your brand now
1:35:29
Speaker 1: and getting orders because of the fact that you become
1:35:31
Speaker 1: a twenty four hour store and they say, say you're
1:35:34
Speaker 1: getting checks in your mailbox. Is how you want to
1:35:37
Speaker 1: do business anyway. You want to be sleeping and making money,
1:35:40
Speaker 1: and that's the ultimate goal for your brands. Correct, absolutely, absolutely,
1:35:45
Speaker 1: And you know, just to be able to have a
1:35:47
Speaker 1: platform like a website. Can you imagine that, like somebody
1:35:50
Speaker 1: in New Jersey knows who we are here in in Inglewood, California.
1:35:55
Speaker 1: Like that's just it's amazing to me that the word
1:35:58
Speaker 1: is out in that people are shopping across the country.
1:36:01
Speaker 1: In this morning, I'm actually here at my distributor because
1:36:03
Speaker 1: I have to pull an order. We gotta order and Dubai.
1:36:05
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's a national I said it. I said,
1:36:11
Speaker 1: I said the blessing, and the blessing came through. Come on, now,
1:36:14
Speaker 1: come on. I love it. I love it because I
1:36:17
Speaker 1: love talking to young entrepreneurs. I love talking to them
1:36:21
Speaker 1: realizing that the excitement you said, we have a delivery
1:36:23
Speaker 1: team now, because you you really see that it's not
1:36:26
Speaker 1: always you know, hand to hand comeback when you're doing business.
1:36:31
Speaker 1: You know, it's about being able to not see your customers,
1:36:34
Speaker 1: but deliver a product online that they feel comfortable with ordering,
1:36:37
Speaker 1: because we know there are so many scams out there.
1:36:39
Speaker 1: We know sometimes I click, you don't know where to go.
1:36:42
Speaker 1: And then these big corporations like Amazon, they have a
1:36:46
Speaker 1: branded people respect, and so people tend to go there
1:36:49
Speaker 1: to buy their their services or by the product, and
1:36:51
Speaker 1: you can deliver the same product probably cheaper than they
1:36:54
Speaker 1: will and also get a fastest delivery pace to them
1:36:57
Speaker 1: as well. But the thing I really loved about just
1:37:00
Speaker 1: here and you talking the enthusiasm of the product is
1:37:03
Speaker 1: that you have a subscription box. Let's talk about that
1:37:06
Speaker 1: ninten ninty nine plus nine ninty nine shipping that's still available. Correct, yea,
1:37:12
Speaker 1: so we actually we've um we've shifted it we're still
1:37:15
Speaker 1: subscriptions are still available. Um, but you've just seen that
1:37:18
Speaker 1: there's a need for like essential products. So we've remedies
1:37:22
Speaker 1: because people are transitioning in this time, right, So a
1:37:25
Speaker 1: lot of people that usually wear wigs, we've extensions. We've
1:37:29
Speaker 1: seen that to the natural hair care um option because
1:37:33
Speaker 1: the cilants are closed, so we've shifted that too. This
1:37:36
Speaker 1: is all about evolving as times change, right. So we
1:37:38
Speaker 1: did have a subscription box, but now we have remedies online.
1:37:41
Speaker 1: So if you're transitioning and you you know you want
1:37:44
Speaker 1: to go natural, we have a transition remedy and we
1:37:46
Speaker 1: have as with yourself, so you can literally go online
1:37:50
Speaker 1: and pick what in your hair is going through and
1:37:53
Speaker 1: pick a remedy to deal with it. Yeah. I'm gonna
1:37:55
Speaker 1: just tell you about me a little bit here to
1:38:00
Speaker 1: my followers are female. I'm a nice guy. I'm a
1:38:05
Speaker 1: nice guy. I'm a baker. I sell positive. I my sister,
1:38:09
Speaker 1: I have six sisters. I just embrace empowering women. The
1:38:13
Speaker 1: reason I bring that up is that I have an email,
1:38:15
Speaker 1: a newsletter that goes out every Friday at nine am
1:38:18
Speaker 1: to ninty thousand fan club members. I like to put
1:38:23
Speaker 1: I like to put an ad in there for you,
1:38:25
Speaker 1: not now that I shouldn't have used the word ad.
1:38:27
Speaker 1: A banner, a banner of marketing your brand. Click here
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Speaker 1: by ship anywhere ninety thousand, So if you could, if
1:38:37
Speaker 1: you get an order from Chicago that might be Rashane,
1:38:40
Speaker 1: you get an order from Florida, that might be you
1:38:43
Speaker 1: get an order from Montana that might be Rashan. All
1:38:45
Speaker 1: of just telling you is that. That is why I
1:38:48
Speaker 1: feel I have to share my blessings. I hear your
1:38:51
Speaker 1: story ms. I have to be able to compel to
1:38:55
Speaker 1: say what can I do more for you? What can
1:38:57
Speaker 1: I do more? How could I help you keep winning?
1:39:00
Speaker 1: Because if you win, that means people stay employed, that
1:39:03
Speaker 1: means that you become a visionary. And you understand what
1:39:06
Speaker 1: you said, Hey, I'm trying to make beauty normal right now,
1:39:11
Speaker 1: beauty is ab normal, but people have extreme thoughts of
1:39:14
Speaker 1: what beauty is. I have a twenty two year old daughter.
1:39:16
Speaker 1: I need you to be our role model. That's why
1:39:18
Speaker 1: I'm ready to support you. Wow, I'm blown away. Thank
1:39:22
Speaker 1: you so much for that. You don't even understand what
1:39:25
Speaker 1: that means because you don't have to do that, and
1:39:27
Speaker 1: I really, really I can't even express how much I
1:39:31
Speaker 1: appreciate it, but I do. Thank you. You don't have
1:39:34
Speaker 1: to express. Just give me that banner. Like I said,
1:39:36
Speaker 1: every Friday at nine am, it goes out and it's
1:39:39
Speaker 1: a beautiful letter I got. I have my PR firm
1:39:43
Speaker 1: send it to you so you can see how how
1:39:45
Speaker 1: it's put laid out. Uh. Is you know this week
1:39:49
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1:40:01
Speaker 1: Not I love it. Thank you. Wow, that's amazing. I
1:40:08
Speaker 1: am blown away. Thank you. Well, all I know is
1:40:10
Speaker 1: that though I know if we run out of time,
1:40:12
Speaker 1: and I wanted to bring you back to talk about
1:40:14
Speaker 1: the sports bar and the juice bar, but this whole
1:40:17
Speaker 1: thing about beauty and you're being an entrepreneur. I just
1:40:20
Speaker 1: wanted to get that story out and also just say
1:40:22
Speaker 1: thank you for being who you are and I'm gonna
1:40:24
Speaker 1: support you and definitely get that information to If you
1:40:26
Speaker 1: can't get it out this, we'll get it to me
1:40:28
Speaker 1: next week and we'll get in there. But every Friday
1:40:30
Speaker 1: at nine am it goes off the East Coast time
1:40:32
Speaker 1: it goes out, and I'll be more than happy to
1:40:35
Speaker 1: support your brand. Okay, thank you, thank you, thank you
1:40:39
Speaker 1: for this platform. Thank you for helping getting the word
1:40:42
Speaker 1: out of in l A and medicine. Just allowing me
1:40:46
Speaker 1: to talk about who I am well, Dubaye dubaye not
1:40:50
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1:40:54
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1:40:55
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1:40:58
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1:41:02
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