Latest / Boxing B-Sides / [BxBD] Ryan vs Rolly, Canelo vs Scull, and Inoue vs Cardenas - Threenco de Mayo
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- 0:46Well, shall we do... Oh, yeah. The fucking...
- 0:52I... Totally forgot to make an outline, Leo.
- 0:55I'm sorry. No. You got the last one, so I got
- 0:58this one. Don't worry about it. Boxing before
- 1:05dark. What's your fucking weakness? Mine's making
- 1:09rice. Should not have making pancakes. Can't
- 1:14do it. I can't do it. Without my rice cooker,
- 1:16I can't do it. It is not possible for me. I've
- 1:19tried, and it doesn't work. I've never owned
- 1:24a rice cooker. Everyone here thinks it's madness.
- 1:27I mean, I have rice cooking in it all the time,
- 1:31even if it's just one cup. So if I'm ever hungry,
- 1:34I'll just have rice as a snack because it's a
- 1:36quick fill -up without being too caloric. I just
- 1:43eat white bread. Boxing Before Dark, 833 -589
- 1:50-7637. Can you make rice without a rice cooker?
- 1:53I want to know if I'm the only fucking moron
- 1:57out there that can't do it. So, the news. Ushik
- 2:04and Dubois are fighting again. This time, it's
- 2:07happening in London. Wait, it was in Poland last
- 2:10time, right? Yeah, that's right. I don't remember.
- 2:16I am excited for this rematch, though. Yeah.
- 2:20Was it a low blow? No. Sorry. Yes, it was a low
- 2:25blow. No, there was no controversy. Okay. Stirring
- 2:34the pot? I think so. Maybe I'm looking at the
- 2:39wrong angles. I didn't see it the right way.
- 2:42But if you look on the Instagram, I have a picture.
- 2:45And I tried to use filters to give it more contrast.
- 2:50And it looks like it's on the belt line. Yeah,
- 2:55okay. But it's, what, a year later? A year and
- 2:59a half? We're quite a ways on. People have been
- 3:02going frame by frame to find the one frame where
- 3:06it doesn't look low. And people are mad that
- 3:09the referee made a split decision saying it was
- 3:12low. Yeah, split second decision, of course.
- 3:15at real time yeah and people are still arguing
- 3:19even with literal frame by frame moments so i'm
- 3:23looking at the some whoever it is i found that
- 3:26from i don't remember uh but i guess they picked
- 3:30the frame that doesn't show it low i i don't
- 3:34know i don't really care all that much but that's
- 3:37that's the one frame that's stuck in my mind
- 3:39yeah i just It's ridiculous. It could have been
- 3:45just that it clipped the cup and it knocked it
- 3:49in such a way that it hit the essentials. Well,
- 3:55and even if it's on the belt line, the belt line's
- 3:58not always in either. Yeah, exactly. You're exactly
- 4:02right. Yeah, the trunks could be higher or whatever.
- 4:10Could do the grandpa style like Fury does. Fury
- 4:14coming into that last Usyk fight was doing every
- 4:18small thing he could. He had the beard to hide
- 4:21his chin line. He had his shorts up around his
- 4:25fucking tits. He was trying so hard to cheat
- 4:28without cheating. And still lost. It was great.
- 4:36This one's happening at Wembley. It was supposed
- 4:38to happen in the US along with Shakur Zapata
- 4:42and something else. I don't remember the third
- 4:47fight. Well, that's on the Berlanga card, right?
- 4:51Berlanga, yeah. But this was supposed to be a
- 4:55part of it. That's a good lead -in, unless you
- 5:00have more about this. No. go ahead so the rumors
- 5:03are that that uh berlanga card's going to be
- 5:08in central park now as opposed to what before
- 5:12times square what there was no there was no before
- 5:16the like so all the major venues are booked that
- 5:20weekend what weekend is it or what what what's
- 5:25the date is it july i can't remember It's not
- 5:30the Puerto Rico parade day, if that's what you're
- 5:33thinking. I was thinking July 4th, whatever weekend
- 5:36that is. No, I don't think so. It's the same
- 5:40weekend as Serrano. Taylor, which is MSG, if
- 5:46I'm not mistaken. Yeah, it's the day after. It
- 5:50is July 12th. All right. But MSG, according to
- 5:57people. doesn't do two things on the same weekend.
- 6:03It takes too long to take down and set back up.
- 6:06Now, I don't know if that would be the case with
- 6:09two boxing matches, but they're different promotions.
- 6:13So I can't see them working together. Yeah, that
- 6:17would have to be on the venue to kind of act
- 6:21as the answer. Change everything, probably. And
- 6:24not even just change it, but to just change the
- 6:27fucking drapes. that's all you really need like
- 6:30change the the advertised advertisement stuff
- 6:35yeah but then who pays for setup and who pays
- 6:40for takedown and etc etc i just the nobody seems
- 6:46to think that they'll do both in the same place
- 6:48lame and what's the other arena there was some
- 6:54sort of concert or something The hall? Yeah.
- 7:01The MSG theater or whatever? No, what's the other
- 7:06location that they sometimes do fights? They're
- 7:08not always at MSG. It's like the Berkeley Center?
- 7:13Barclays. Yeah. It's also booked. So people were
- 7:18like, where could they possibly do this? And
- 7:20the rumors are it's going to be in Central Park.
- 7:24How? man childish of course we're gonna put it
- 7:29in the fucking central park and everyone's gonna
- 7:32love it it it would actually be kind of cool
- 7:36i think i didn't know that they had a stage or
- 7:41kind of thing yeah i didn't either but since
- 7:45this was the rumor yeah they do have like a place
- 7:48where they do concerts and stuff so there's a
- 7:50stage and an area that they can exclude people
- 7:55from so there would probably actually be tickets
- 7:58sold i assume this time central park amphitheater
- 8:04uh let's look into it i'm gonna yeah i mean it
- 8:12it is a concert stage looking thing i think they
- 8:17would have to change some stuff but i could see
- 8:21setting up like seats and things around it oh
- 8:25shit yeah it's a real stage it's this is fucking
- 8:29the space is uh is pretty huge here let me i'm
- 8:36gonna send this to you directly on discord yeah
- 8:39like it seems like a much easier place to host
- 8:46a fight than fucking times square which is turning
- 8:48into a shit show yeah So I think that could be
- 8:55cool. Yeah, if you look at the photo I sent you,
- 8:59like, it's just, there's a giant space for people.
- 9:03Yeah, yeah. That looks like maybe two or three
- 9:08baseball fields big. Yeah. You could put the
- 9:13ring right in the middle and then just whatever.
- 9:16Set up seats and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know
- 9:19that. They'd probably walk off the stage for
- 9:22the walkouts, I assume. Oh, walk from the stage
- 9:26to the ring. To the ring in the center. You could
- 9:31have the big videos playing behind them and some
- 9:34fireworks and shit. I think this would be a cool...
- 9:38The entrance archway. Yeah. This actually could
- 9:42be pretty cool. This makes a lot more sense.
- 9:46The only problem is with any outdoor event, it's
- 9:50July. Is it going to rain? Is it going to be
- 9:53800 degrees? It'll be humid. Being in the park
- 9:58should help, though. There's been huge studies
- 10:01on how Central Park is 5 to 10 degrees colder
- 10:06than anywhere else in New York because of all
- 10:08the plants. Yeah, there's... I mean, that's a...
- 10:13I don't know if it's common knowledge, but it's
- 10:16a well -known thing that having parks nearby
- 10:19does decrease temperature considerably than places
- 10:23without. Yeah. And if they can do outdoors in
- 10:27California in July, I don't see why you couldn't
- 10:31do New York. It's different problems, but, you
- 10:35know. It was raining, I think, during Sergio
- 10:40Martinez versus... jcc jr and uh yeah martina
- 10:46slipped on the water yeah i mean any outdoor
- 10:50event's gonna be like that though i don't like
- 10:52boxing outside i mean i think it looks cool but
- 10:56you can't be prepared for all weather it's just
- 11:01not possible too much exposure to the elements
- 11:04and you can't yeah can't plan for everything
- 11:07well and if they do have to build like a big
- 11:10uh cover for it then you block people's view
- 11:14and all sorts of problems but that could be cool
- 11:20and then the other controversy with this card
- 11:24is berlanga shiraz is the main event even though
- 11:30or it's being billed as the main event even though
- 11:34uh stevenson versus the paid as a title fight
- 11:39I wouldn't say that's unusual or something. I
- 11:43don't know why that would be a controversy. Shakur
- 11:48is fucking... Boring as hell. Why would you want
- 11:52to build him at the top? I would not want to
- 11:55have him as my headliner. But generally, Shakur
- 12:00is the biggest name. Yes. Of everyone else who's
- 12:05on it, he is the bigger name for sure. He's the
- 12:08biggest name, and it's a title fight. So by general
- 12:13standards, he should be the main event. Has he
- 12:17tried not being boring as fuck? And then we wouldn't
- 12:20be having this problem. This is also my thought.
- 12:24But people are trying to make it all about Turkey
- 12:29playing favorites with his guy, with Shiraz.
- 12:35Which I'm sure that's part of it. But Shakur
- 12:39is boring as fuck. And nobody thinks that's going
- 12:44to be a good fight. Everybody thinks Shakur is
- 12:47just going to be negative and Zepeda is going
- 12:51to miss. Yes. It's going to be Casemiro -Rigo
- 12:592. Tevin Farmer, as much as I dislike using the
- 13:05term, I think it is applicable here that Tevin
- 13:07Farmer did expose a lot of Zepeda's deficiencies.
- 13:11And Shakur Stevenson, whatever his other faults,
- 13:15he is a lot more technically sound than Tevin
- 13:18Farmer. So I don't see this being a good fight
- 13:21either. But Tevin Farmer is aggressive. True.
- 13:24True. Yes. Okay, so I also think this is probably
- 13:31wishful thinking. But my wish, and people are
- 13:35going to make fun of me, call in, do your thing,
- 13:37but Shakira's not going to be able to keep Zepeda
- 13:42off him. Hell no. At all. And he's going to try,
- 13:47because he's going to have to throw punches.
- 13:50And Zepeda's got that big old Mexican hand, and
- 13:54Shakira's going to break his hands. He's going
- 13:56to break a hand on Zepeda's hand and he's not
- 13:59going to be able to stop Zepeda. And Zepeda's
- 14:02going to catch him. It's going to happen. That
- 14:06last part might be completely wishful thinking.
- 14:10The hand breaking is not out of the realm of
- 14:13possibility. I would bet money on a hand injury.
- 14:17You could bet that just in general because both
- 14:20of them have had hand injuries. I don't think
- 14:23Zepeda is going to be able to hit Shakur clean
- 14:26enough to hurt his hands. But I think Shakur
- 14:31is going to have to throw too many punches and
- 14:34he's going to hurt himself. Whether that's going
- 14:38to be enough for Zepeda to actually win is probably
- 14:42no. But it's going to turn into... Casimiro,
- 14:47Regan Dow, I think. It's just going to be Zepeda
- 14:50chasing and missing and Shukur dancing away because
- 14:55he doesn't want to throw punches because his
- 14:57hands hurt. Damn. So I don't blame them for not
- 15:02putting that as the headline. And for all his
- 15:05other faults, Berlanga's exciting. Yeah, for
- 15:08all his other faults, he does come to rumble.
- 15:13And... He's Puerto Rican in New York. He's the
- 15:16only guy with a New York following. Plus, Turkey
- 15:21gets to put his favorite at the top of the bill
- 15:24then as well. And I'm sure there's a contingency
- 15:27of Muslim bros that they could rally around for
- 15:32Shiraz. Yeah. It's not like they have very many
- 15:37non -African American boxers to get behind. The
- 15:44Muslims in general. Not that I pay attention
- 15:50to people's religions, but I can't think of any
- 15:52other Muslims that aren't African American. I
- 15:57think the term is MENA, Middle East, North Africa.
- 16:02And that encompasses the entire Arab world. Okay.
- 16:08And it's secular. You know how good I am with...
- 16:11words i i yeah i get into the weeds with that
- 16:15kind of stuff just because i think like ethnonyms
- 16:18demonyms i think they're really interesting yeah
- 16:21sorry fucking nerd alert god so okay it'll bring
- 16:27out the the menas the mina people i was trying
- 16:33to get it like the minions New York, New Yoricans
- 16:38is the New York Puerto Ricans. New Yoricans.
- 16:40Is that what, really? Is that the thing? Or did
- 16:43you make that up? I've heard it before. I am
- 16:46not smart enough to make that up. It's just the
- 16:48portmanteau. Yeah. Yeah. I'm bad at those. Anyways,
- 16:52it was probably a pro boxing. Chris Algieri calls
- 16:58them New Yoricans. Mena Yorkers. Mean New Yorkers?
- 17:07New Yorkers? Yeah. Anyways, so they're probably
- 17:13going to hopefully get a new kind of demographic
- 17:18out to the fight. Yeah, hopefully. And the Mexicans
- 17:21are everywhere. It's a reality. The diaspora
- 17:26is fucking everywhere. Oh, shit. So we have Usyk
- 17:33Dubois. The Central Park, potentially Central
- 17:38Park card. I saw this thing. Anthony Joshua's
- 17:44looking at three fights tops before he retires.
- 17:49I mean, he's kind of there, right? Like, that's
- 17:53reasonable. Yeah. He's, I mean, Tyson Fury, of
- 17:57course, the biggest fight that they could make.
- 17:59But that's assuming Tyson Fury comes out of retirement
- 18:02again, which is very possible. I would say probable.
- 18:06Yeah. For AJ money. Fury will come out of retirement
- 18:09for AJ money. It's more likely than not that
- 18:13he comes out of retirement. Yeah. He wants a
- 18:16Dubois rematch, which makes sense. You'd want
- 18:21to get that one back. And another one. I don't
- 18:24know if he'll get that, though. I don't think
- 18:26so. I think that's less likely. Dubois has a
- 18:30lot on his plate right now with the IBF belt
- 18:33in his hands. Yeah. And they also mentioned a
- 18:39possibility of fighting Jake Paul. Why? I was
- 18:45thinking the same thing. Oh. Money, of course.
- 18:50Obviously. Did you see that Eddie Hearn slipped
- 18:56up and said Tank is fighting Jake Paul? I did
- 18:59hear that. I did hear that he let that slip.
- 19:04That's fun. That's really stupid. That's the
- 19:08dumbest fucking shit I've ever heard. It's the
- 19:11biggest circus fight I have ever heard. But if
- 19:15you want a spectacle... And Tank's not even going
- 19:16to be able to reach his head. Like, he's going
- 19:19to have to fucking jump. Just super bad punches.
- 19:23It'll be similar to Logan Paul versus Floyd Mayweather.
- 19:27Like, the size disparity is just really... was
- 19:30really pronounced. is tank as tall as floyd no
- 19:35hell no floyd may well yeah i was gonna say five
- 19:37seven five eight floyd's got like three or four
- 19:40inches on him doesn't he uh tank i think is like
- 19:43five two or five three yeah short as fuck he's
- 19:49shorter than i am i know that and it's if he
- 19:52makes 135 that's he must be just a fucking brick
- 19:56shithouse a meatball I got two fosters today.
- 20:02Oh, nice. Cats? Yeah. Do you ever foster dogs?
- 20:08I've only fostered two dogs before. Nice. Frozen
- 20:12shit like all cats do? No, they're tiny. They're
- 20:17little, tiny little babies. Like they just came
- 20:20out, came off of bottle feeding. Oh, crazy. Yeah.
- 20:25Um, right. So AJ and his three fights. Don't
- 20:29pick Jake Paul. Jake Paul, don't fight Trevante
- 20:33Davis. Please. Ridiculous. Please. Yeah, I guess.
- 20:40Who else would you have AJ fight? Like, Wilder,
- 20:44I guess. That never happened. That never happened,
- 20:47and I think it still should. I don't know, man.
- 20:52Wilder's looked so cooked. I don't think I even
- 20:55want to see it anymore. Gerald Miller? I said
- 21:02that unironically. No. No. Let's see here. Could
- 21:12do Parker again. Lawrence of Coley. If you want
- 21:18to do an all British thing. I mean, if you want
- 21:22to do a passing of the torch type thing. Who's
- 21:26the youngest guy you would have fight AJ for
- 21:29his last fight? If everybody looks good in the
- 21:34next two years or whatever. If all things going
- 21:38well or according to plan, it's hard to say because
- 21:44Gerald Miller and I was going to say Fabio Wardley,
- 21:47but we're recording this on Friday. It's going
- 21:51to be coming out after their... they fight on
- 21:54the card so we don't know who won yet uh at least
- 21:59as of this recording we don't know so i'll say
- 22:02fabio wardley uh that's a good like youngster
- 22:07that you want to get some shine on um is he young
- 22:11for some reason i thought wardley was he's 30
- 22:14not so i don't know how young that is that's
- 22:20not old but Passing of the British torch, I guess.
- 22:28Dubois is 27. And I think he took the torch.
- 22:35He took that torch. He took the torch. Agit Kabayel
- 22:40is not a terrible guy to... Well, if you just
- 22:43want to go off on a win, then probably not. But
- 22:48I also rate Kabayel really highly. Martin Bacoli?
- 22:58That doesn't excite me. AJ deserves an exciting
- 23:03fight for his last one. Something exciting. Tyson
- 23:09Fury, Deontay Wilder. I think those need to happen.
- 23:13Those are really the only two. Yeah. If it's
- 23:17possible to get the Dubois rematch, do that.
- 23:20Do that as your last one so that you could get
- 23:23the win back as you head out the door. Or not.
- 23:29Because I think it's likely not, to be honest.
- 23:33What, he loses again? I think so. I would agree.
- 23:38Dubois found himself. I rate Dubois. I actually
- 23:44think he has a good chance against Usyk this
- 23:47time. It'll be better. A much better performance.
- 23:50He was doing pretty well the first time. Yeah,
- 23:53which is why better is... concerning for Usyk.
- 23:57And he's, Usyk's like almost 40. Goodness. Is
- 24:02he? He's 38. Damn, he's older than us. Yeah.
- 24:07That's crazy. Speaking of Dubois, Derek Chisora's
- 24:16been made an IPF mandatory. Yeah, we talked about
- 24:21this a while back. How? Why? Like, are you guys
- 24:25just trying to kill him? Yeah. What the fuck,
- 24:27guys? Where I found the article, it's just kind
- 24:34of rehashing it, but they pull up like five to
- 24:38ten different social media responses to it, and
- 24:41all of them are like, what the fuck even is this?
- 24:43Why are you doing this to Derek Chisora? His
- 24:48brain is... do at this point, but you put him
- 24:52in against Dubois, and it's gonna be soup. He'll
- 24:56take the fight. Of course he will. He's fucking
- 25:00Derek Chisora. He's never gonna say no. That's
- 25:05why somebody, like in this case, the IBF, somebody
- 25:09needs to step in on his behalf, even though he's
- 25:13not gonna like it. You need to have the hard
- 25:17conversation. Like, dude, you're not going to
- 25:19win a title again. Dubois will whoop your ass.
- 25:22Pretty much any... Usyk would whoop your ass.
- 25:27Like, he beat you the first time and it was kind
- 25:29of stinky, but he will beat your ass the second
- 25:32time. Usyk has gotten used to the weight. Yeah.
- 25:36Like... I mean, I like Chizora. I do too. But
- 25:42he needs to stop. Yes. And everybody's like,
- 25:46oh, bro's got bills to pay. Man, if you pissed
- 25:49away all of the money you've made, because I'm
- 25:52not saying that he made the most money ever,
- 25:56but he's made a lot of money boxing. And he deserved
- 25:59it. But if he's pissed it all away, another paycheck
- 26:03isn't going to help. Yeah, that's financial literacy
- 26:06kind of thing. Yeah, that is not. You're not
- 26:13helping him by getting him one more big paycheck.
- 26:16If that is your worry. Because it will also get
- 26:20pissed away. Trying to think who you could do
- 26:23for Derek Chisora. He's at 36 and 13. So that's
- 26:2849 fights. He wants to do 50. I'm looking at
- 26:33the top. The winner of Fisher Allen. Oh, shit.
- 26:40That's good. but that's good derrick will probably
- 26:45win let him go out on a win his 50 fights and
- 26:49fucking get out if it's fisher that wins and
- 26:53it probably will be maybe question mark that
- 26:58one i really don't know but if it is fisher that
- 27:00wins he comes with a built -in fan base chizora
- 27:04comes with a built -in exactly that's exactly
- 27:06what i was gonna say is he has one too As mid
- 27:10as both of those fighters are, that would be
- 27:13a big card. People would buy tickets. Derek Chisora,
- 27:19dude. It's time, man. Yeah, man. It's not even
- 27:26like calling him Unk because he's not that much
- 27:28older than we are. But he is. Yeah, you got the
- 27:34mileage. man yeah it's it's time to start thinking
- 27:37about your life after this because like you're
- 27:40you're 41 now with all of the damage you've taken
- 27:44you're probably looking at a solid like 15 to
- 27:4720 years maybe that's it yeah of good quality
- 27:52life so it's time to start thinking about other
- 27:56stuff man your priorities have to change Chizora
- 28:02makes me kind of sad. He makes me sad. He is
- 28:05the only person I am sad when he wins. It's bittersweet.
- 28:12He's the only person I like that I'm sad when
- 28:15he wins. Yeah. That's a good way to put it. I
- 28:19don't want him to keep going. I want him to stop.
- 28:24I want him to go have a nice life. Yeah, man.
- 28:27Eat some fucking burgers and... What's the disgusting
- 28:31fast food takeout? Five Guys or something? He
- 28:35likes Five Guys. No, but that's American. I was
- 28:39trying to make a British joke. Nando's? Yeah.
- 28:44Takeaways from Nando's? Yeah, yeah. Well, they
- 28:46call it a Chinese. Oh, yeah. Maybe I'm thinking
- 28:49Irish. A curry? A spice bag. Spice bag is what
- 28:53I'm thinking, but that might be Irish. That's
- 28:55Irish. Yeah. Just this guy on Instagram I follow
- 28:59who's hella Irish. And he broke down the slang
- 29:03one time. Is he the follow me, I'm delicious
- 29:08guy? That's exactly who it is. Garan. I fucking
- 29:12love him. Follow me, I'm delicious. I need a
- 29:17catchphrase like that. But that's... That actually,
- 29:23when I worked as a chef, as a private chef, I
- 29:27did live deliciously. Nice. That seems like it
- 29:33was probably taken. It is. I got it from Olivia.
- 29:39WBA, up to their usual shenanigans. So they were
- 29:43supposedly, well, they had been, actually. They
- 29:47were on a good streak of cutting back. the regular
- 29:51titles and the super titles. And now they've
- 29:55decided to make Jaron Ennis the super champ.
- 29:58And now Ryan versus Romero is going to be for
- 30:03the regular title, the WBA welterweight. They
- 30:08just want a title on that card? I assume that's
- 30:12what it is. That's bullshit. I hate when they
- 30:17do this stuff. Yeah. You could make it a commemorative
- 30:21belt like the WBC does all the time. Well, so
- 30:26that one has enough names that casuals will recognize
- 30:29that it's all just marketing. Like, if you throw
- 30:34title match on the poster and the ads, casuals
- 30:41that follow Ryan Garcia don't know what a fucking
- 30:47title is or what that means. Like, they don't
- 30:50care. Between regular and super title? They probably,
- 30:55honest to God, half the Garcia fans probably
- 30:58don't know that there's more than one belt. Four
- 31:01elite belts. Several secondary belts. And 8 ,000
- 31:05other ones. Yeah, 8 ,000 regional titles. Yeah.
- 31:10And each one of those, every single one of those
- 31:13belts can be doubled by just adding interim.
- 31:17Yeah. So they just want it for the posters. Yeah.
- 31:24And it's Ryan, so it's a big sanctioning fee.
- 31:27Yeah. Speaking of that card, I have placed my
- 31:33bets on Ramirez and... Barbossa? Rowley. I didn't
- 31:39place a bet on Barbossa. I don't know. Tio might
- 31:44pull it out. I can't tell. He probably will.
- 31:47Did notice that he actually wore a shirt this
- 31:49last time he was on. The first two press conferences,
- 31:53he didn't wear a shirt. I don't know if anyone
- 31:55else noticed, but he had on like a vest and he
- 31:58had on like a jacket, but there was no shirt
- 32:00underneath him. Who does that? Last thing. We're
- 32:13coming up on time, and we've got a few things
- 32:16to get to that are more important than all of
- 32:20these TMZ headlines. Fair enough. One quick one.
- 32:26There was a drama one that Shakur Stevenson has
- 32:29left Matchroom or whatever. It's not true. He
- 32:33had a two -fight deal with Matchroom. He's only
- 32:36had one fight so far, and that was against Padley.
- 32:40Yeah. So the Zepeda one is with Matchroom. That's
- 32:45how it is. And Ludabella? He might have him as
- 32:49a manager. Yeah. He is a New York guy. It makes
- 32:53sense to get a New York person. Yeah, to handle
- 32:56your image while you're going to be competing
- 32:58there. Yeah. Mike Tyson's trainer regrets telling
- 33:05fans to bet against Jake Paul. Okay. And Spence
- 33:12is not... He didn't say outright that he's retiring,
- 33:16but he's going to be looking at promoting. Because
- 33:19when Frank Martin fought Gervonta Davis, he helped
- 33:24promote that event. And he really liked being
- 33:27on that side of it. His words. On God, Spence
- 33:33is physically damaged beyond repair. Like, Spence
- 33:38is fucked. I put that on Alex's life. On Alex's
- 33:42life, Spence is damaged goods. I know nobody
- 33:50believes me, but that first car crash fucked
- 33:53over. The second car crash made it worse. A damaged
- 33:57Spence is still a really good boxer, but he's
- 34:01damaged real bad. Right. He's definitely not
- 34:04the same. And to think he is. A serious car crash
- 34:10is going to change you. It doesn't matter who
- 34:12you are. That's flipping over and over, getting
- 34:16thrown from the fucking vehicle. Retina surgery,
- 34:22the second car crash did not help anything. Yeah,
- 34:26the dude should be promoting. He likes it. He
- 34:31said he felt like he was doing a good job at
- 34:33it. I think he was all right promoting Frank
- 34:36Martin. So, yeah, he wants to start passing on
- 34:40his knowledge to the new guys on the block. So
- 34:44that's cool. I think it's a good move. Yeah.
- 34:47I'm happy. I'd like to see him take the spotlight
- 34:50a little bit more. Yeah. And start mixing it
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- 38:09What a weekend. We've talked, I think we already
- 38:12talked quite a bit about Raleigh, Ryan. Teofimo
- 38:17versus Barbosa and Devin Haney versus Ramirez.
- 38:20You've already placed your bets. Small ones.
- 38:24Huh? Small ones. Coffees, right? Yeah, yeah.
- 38:28So $250 each. And I think the payout is like
- 38:32$10. Oh, no, it'd be more than that. It's 6 -1
- 38:35and 7 -something -to -1. Is Raleigh the 7 -to
- 38:40-1? Yes. I fucking hate Garcia, and I don't think
- 38:45he's that good. He'll probably pull out another
- 38:49bullshit win. He's a one -hitter. Like, he's
- 38:52a one -trick pony. Otherwise, he's pretty ass.
- 38:57Weird fucking turning his kidneys as a defense.
- 39:01Like, what the fuck is that? Here's my liver.
- 39:04Go right ahead. I know Roley doesn't have much
- 39:10power, but I really want him to just... fucking
- 39:13drop them with a body shot i can't help but think
- 39:19of those uh if so and so had an alberta accent
- 39:23videos that i keep saying you've been loving
- 39:25those those are so fucking funny they're so funny
- 39:30uh but like as i can if ryan garcia had an alberta
- 39:35accent that's what's coming to mind right now
- 39:42I'm here, buddy. You fucking what, buddy? You
- 39:47fucking what? I can't do that weird Alberta accent
- 39:51because to me it just sounds native and it feels
- 39:54super racist. Oh, shit. Yeah. It's not anymore,
- 39:59but to me that's what it is. But it's Letter
- 40:04Kenny. Letter Kenny fucked over Alberta. And
- 40:10that Northern Ontario accent was always really
- 40:12native -sounding to me. One other fight on this
- 40:17card. LaVale, I think it is. LaVale Whittington
- 40:21versus Reito Tsutsumi. No relation, I think.
- 40:28Yeah. Tsutsumi seems to be a much more... common
- 40:35name than I thought. That's what I was just about
- 40:37to say. It doesn't seem like it's as rare as
- 40:41I thought it was originally. I think this Tsutsumi
- 40:46cat is supposed to be... Is he the one from ProBucks?
- 40:51No. No. No, this is his debut. I don't know.
- 41:01He's supposed to be like an amateur standout
- 41:03if it's... Who I'm thinking of. It's either him
- 41:07or somebody on the Inouye card. But enough of
- 41:14that one. Moving on to motherfucking Dinero vs.
- 41:19Skull. Is that this weekend too? Oh yeah, it's
- 41:23Cinco de Mayo, isn't it? It's the 5 -2. That
- 41:27weekend. Yeah, the Friday is the Times Square
- 41:31card. Saturday is Alvarez versus Skull and then
- 41:36Sunday is Inouye versus Cardenas. Nice. I apparently
- 41:43was not excited for Canelo at all because I forgot
- 41:46it was happening. Yeah, it's like really who
- 41:50gives a shit? This is like Usyk and Dubois too.
- 41:55It's just like the person who is the rightful
- 41:58owner of the belt has to fight the one that...
- 42:01it was given to after they were stripped with
- 42:05the IBF. So it's whatever. Alvarez is the undisputed
- 42:11champ. William Skull is just some fucking guy
- 42:13that Turkey wants him to face just to get the
- 42:18belt back as a formality. Have we seen Skull
- 42:22fight? Okay. I do not recognize his face at all.
- 42:28Or... Any of these names on BoxRec. Who did I
- 42:33see him fight? Shishkin, I think. Yeah, when
- 42:40he got... That was his last fight. Yep. He wears
- 42:46glasses as a fashion accessory. Because those
- 42:50things look way too ridiculous to be... Real?
- 42:55Yeah, to be prescription. Whatever works for
- 43:00you, dog. I mean, that's fine. Yeah. Whatever
- 43:04works. Spence wears glasses for fashion. My disability
- 43:07is not your fashion. My culture is not your costume.
- 43:13Yeah. I don't know if glasses are culture, but...
- 43:16Fucking blind -ass people. I am actually legally
- 43:22blind if I can't wear glasses. It's crazy. I'm
- 43:27not. I just... Have a little difficulty reading.
- 43:32Oh, no. I'm minus 8 .5 in one eye and minus 9
- 43:37.25 in the other. Fucking auntie is blind. Super
- 43:44blind. I broke my glasses once. I didn't break
- 43:48them. The screw fell out driving home. And I
- 43:51live 30 kilometers from town. And I just had
- 43:54to pull over on the side of the road. And this
- 43:56was before I had a cell phone. i'm that old my
- 43:59family had a cell phone but i didn't i just had
- 44:02to pull over and wait for somebody to drive by
- 44:04it took an hour and a half holy and i was like
- 44:08because i was on the highway it's not a busy
- 44:11highway but i was like holy like i could kill
- 44:14somebody even with one lens i just couldn't do
- 44:17it i tried it was bad yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't
- 44:24take that take that chance either gravel roads
- 44:27where i could drive like 10 and kind of feel
- 44:30the ditch i would have but you know where we
- 44:35saw william skull is when he fought uh when it
- 44:40was alvarez first munguia he was on that undercard
- 44:45and then uh shishkin afterwards for the i think
- 44:53shishkin was elevated i don't think it was a
- 44:59vacant fight but yeah that's where we saw uh
- 45:07badu jack is still fighting why don't know if
- 45:19we did see skull there he was so far down i don't
- 45:22think he was on the broadcast yeah um badu jack
- 45:29has a title doesn't he he has the i think the
- 45:33full wbc cruiserweight belt and mccallion no
- 45:40mccallion has a full title badu jack has the
- 45:44interim He's Swedish? He lives in... He's adopted.
- 45:55That says his birthplace is Stockholm, Sweden
- 45:58on Botrek. Yeah, that's where his adopted family
- 46:02is. I think he was adopted as a baby. Crazy.
- 46:06So they just put it as Sweden. Why have I not
- 46:10been cheering for Badu Jack then? What, did you
- 46:13think he was American? I did. This Swedish erasure
- 46:18will not be tolerated. Who's the guy on The Simpsons?
- 46:24He's from Iceland. Carl? Carl Carlson is from
- 46:30Iceland. Oh, right. Jaime Munguia versus Bruno
- 46:35Saras. It's happening again. Nice. I'm interested
- 46:43to see how this plays out. I'm hopeful for Munguia.
- 46:46I mean, I like Munguia. I want him to win. And
- 46:50I don't particularly have any love for the French.
- 46:53But can you imagine if Saras does it again? Can
- 46:57you imagine? I would lose my mind, to say the
- 47:02least. I cannot imagine. Like, that would be
- 47:08fucking madness. Martin Bacoli versus Efe Ajogba.
- 47:15I think this was always going to happen despite
- 47:18the... This was already scheduled. Despite the...
- 47:23And the Parker loss was just... Whatever. How
- 47:29heavy do you think Bacoli will be? 270 to 280.
- 47:36Because what did he come in last time? 330? Yeah,
- 47:39it was like 325, I think. Or 330, you're right.
- 47:46I want to check now, just to be sure. Yeah, I
- 47:52jumped on BoxRec, but they don't put the weights.
- 47:57Do they put the weight? They put the opponent's
- 48:00weight, I think. So I have to go to Joseph Parker.
- 48:04Yeah, he was 310. I'm interested to see how much
- 48:12lower he is this time. That could be a really
- 48:16good fight, though. Focolia -Jagva? That might
- 48:19be exciting. I think that's going to be one of
- 48:21those don't blink because it's going to be really
- 48:26tense and really cagey. I don't think it's going
- 48:30to be fireworks. No? No. They're both going to
- 48:34be leery of each other's power and they're not
- 48:38going to want to get into exchanges too much.
- 48:41Which is the whole problem with heavyweight.
- 48:43Yeah, it's just who lands first. Boring. I think
- 48:50a jogba might pull it off. You think so? He's
- 48:53younger. How much younger is he? Because Bakoli
- 49:00is 33. Why do you not have your age on here?
- 49:09It's a secret. Yeah, no shit. That is weird.
- 49:18Maybe he doesn't know. He is listed as inactive.
- 49:24Wikipedia should have it. 31. 31. Okay, so he's
- 49:28not that much younger. Never mind. I'm just thinking
- 49:31because he has that 1 -2 pretty dialed in. People
- 49:36were calling him the next Deontay Wilder because
- 49:38of it. Yeah, they're the same height, so nobody
- 49:42really has a height reach advantage. Wait a second,
- 49:48let me check. Oh, and then Bacoli doesn't have
- 49:51his reach on Boxrec. God damn it, guys. What
- 49:55is Martin Bacoli's reach? Martin Bacoli's reach
- 50:02is generally listed as 77 inches. 77, that's
- 50:07it? However, some sources state it's 82. A job
- 50:14is listed as 85 on BoxRec. So that long reach
- 50:19might make a difference. Yeah. Thanks, Google
- 50:28Gemini. That's where I got those ass fucking
- 50:33pound -for -pound lists. They weren't that ass,
- 50:37but... They weren't great. They weren't great.
- 50:40No. No. That's it for this card. This is a much
- 50:45better card than I thought it was. It is really
- 50:48good, even if the main event is a fucking joke.
- 50:51There's three other really good fights on here.
- 50:54Munguia Saras, a lot of drama there. Bacolia
- 50:57Jogba. Take it for what it is, but enjoy it.
- 51:05I don't know who this other guy is, but body
- 51:08Jack always comes to swing. Like he's exciting.
- 51:13It's good. It's good to see the, this is the
- 51:16WBC cruiserweight title. So this is the one that's
- 51:19been kind of off to the side just because we
- 51:24had nothing on McKaylee and he was having like
- 51:26promotional disputes and body Jack was the interim.
- 51:31We have Opitaya and Zerdo. So it's, finally we're
- 51:37gonna see what this belt is about like what the
- 51:39title holder is about and see if they have anything
- 51:42to offer to the arc two uh premier cruiserweights
- 51:48i haven't noticed how many promotional bodies
- 51:53are on this either like there's top rank matchroom
- 51:59three lions who the fuck is three lions I don't
- 52:04know. Sounds like a native guy. Daniel Otter.
- 52:09I assume it's similar to the... What's the Canadian
- 52:13one? Eye of the Tiger? Yeah. I was going to say
- 52:17Lion for some reason. And Queensberry. And Boxer.
- 52:22Fucking everybody's in on this card. I wonder
- 52:26who their fighters are. Oh, Daniel Otter is the
- 52:31Three Lions Promotions guy. Okay. So. And Canelo
- 52:38Promotions is also on this too. Sorry, I said
- 52:43something I'd already said. Daniel Otter is Canadian.
- 52:47He is one of the Canadian ones, like Eye of the
- 52:49Tiger. It'll be one of those. Lower level. Yeah.
- 52:56Lower down the hill. I'll be nice. I was going
- 53:00to say. It'll be one of those biker gang promotions.
- 53:06Oh, shit. It's pretty much all Canada has. Biker
- 53:11gang promotions? Well, they're all from Quebec,
- 53:14and Quebec's run by... Anyways, I'll stop being
- 53:18terrible. Shitting on the canoodles, French canoodles?
- 53:22Well, Quebec and Ontario, but Quebec's the worst.
- 53:26Like, they have infrastructure problems because
- 53:29the mob. the french mob over there does the shady
- 53:34oh yeah my cousin can build that and then they
- 53:36take a bunch of the money and then a bridge collapses
- 53:38every 10 years that's not not great no no they
- 53:43had been doing better lately but i'm sure the
- 53:46boxing hasn't cleaned up yet anyways this re
- 53:50-op season one has literally everybody promoting
- 53:53on it you know who doesn't have everyone promoting
- 53:59on it Because it's only top rank. The Vegas card?
- 54:03The Vegas card on the 4th. Naoya Inoue versus
- 54:07who gives a shit. I'm sorry. Pro box guy Ramon
- 54:13Cardenas. I'm sure you're going to give us a
- 54:16fucking hell of a show, man. I'm sure he will
- 54:20do his best. Yeah. I will give him 10 -10 rounds
- 54:24every time because he's trying his hardest. Do
- 54:28you have a full card for this? Yeah. Because
- 54:32BoxRec does not. BoxRec's only got two fights
- 54:36listed. Yeah, it's in the doc. Did I click on
- 54:42the wrong thing? It looked like the doc wasn't
- 54:44updated. Maybe. I bet you I clicked on B -side.
- 54:49There we go. I had the wrong document open. I
- 54:52thought you just didn't have time to update it.
- 54:54No. I had it filled out. Yeah, sorry. My bad.
- 55:00Yep, there's two fights on the card that still
- 55:05don't have opponents. That's not good. They're
- 55:10down the bill. Still not good. It's a week away.
- 55:14True. Versus the legendary TBA. It's supposed
- 55:22to be a 10 -round featherweight fight, so we'll
- 55:24see. Art? Barrera Jr. vs. Juan Carlos Guerra.
- 55:30Gotta really roll that R on Guerra. Six rounds
- 55:36at 154. Mikito Nakano. This is the guy I was
- 55:43wondering if he was the Japanese prospect that's
- 55:47debuting this weekend, but at a 10 -round featherweight,
- 55:51I don't think he's debuting. He might be. Who
- 55:55knows? He might be one of those older ones. Could
- 55:59be. Give me two seconds. Sure. He is 29 and has
- 56:06had 12 fights, 11 wins by KO. Is he 12 -0 or...?
- 56:11Yeah. Cool. If this is the right guy, because
- 56:17they're not listed on BoxRec on this card. On
- 56:21the fight, no. They're not. I've looked into
- 56:26ways. You have to be an approved editor to be
- 56:31able to add fights. I'm assuming the top guy
- 56:36that came up is the right guy. Probably. The
- 56:40other fight that does not have an opponent yet,
- 56:46Emiliano Vargas. Eight rounds at 140. It's not
- 56:53going to be a good opponent. not with a week's
- 56:57notice not with a week's notice and you're like
- 57:00you're gonna put them on this platform so you're
- 57:04you're asking somebody go get go get embarrassed
- 57:07for eight rounds in front of in front of hundreds
- 57:13of like hundreds tens of thousands of people
- 57:16yeah in vegas yeah on international tv that you
- 57:22know millions of people are going to watch yeah
- 57:24like the entire country of japan is going to
- 57:26watch this happen to you yeah perfect that sounds
- 57:31like a great time sitting there like looking
- 57:34at me uh rohan polanco this is the welterweight
- 57:39guy that he's been finishing his fights pretty
- 57:42quickly impressive power really explosive uh
- 57:47dynamic athleticism look pretty good and he's
- 57:52fighting fabian maidana of the famous boxing
- 57:57Maidanas, the fighting Maidana brothers. Nice.
- 58:01So that's cool. Moving in, co -main, Rafael Espinoza
- 58:07versus Edward Vasquez, WBO featherweight title
- 58:11on the line here. I don't know. Espinoza should
- 58:14win, right? Just based on the box rank, box rec
- 58:18ranks, Espinoza at three, and Edward, At 70.
- 58:26Not expecting a whole lot. I'm going to guess.
- 58:30Let me check. I'm going to guess that this is
- 58:33a. This guy lost to Corvina. Good one. And he
- 58:40lost to Ford. Those are his two losses. He's
- 58:44number 10 in the WBO. This has to be a voluntary
- 58:49defense. I think that what they're wanting to
- 58:51do is give him a showcase, give Espinoza a showcase.
- 58:54Because there's going to be a lot of people watching.
- 58:57And I think they're trying to spin up the conversation
- 59:01of, ooh, shit, should Noya move up? And if he
- 59:06does, who's he going to fight? Well, look at
- 59:08how awesome Espinoza just looked. Yeah, I don't
- 59:12think Noya should fight Espinoza for his first
- 59:16fight up. That's stupid. For a first fight at
- 59:19126, that's a really bad idea. That's stupid.
- 59:25Yeah, I got my seat booked at the old man bar.
- 59:29They've been going crazy this week. What are
- 59:33they doing for all the other cards? Like the
- 59:40Canelo card? Yeah. They'll probably... He'll
- 59:44show them. But they're on in the morning, so
- 59:48I don't want to wake up early and ride a train
- 59:51to Tokyo. And I also don't think Canelo beating
- 59:55the shit out of Skull is worth spending the night
- 59:58in Tokyo. There's a lot of other good stuff on
- 1:00:00it, though. Yeah, but I can watch it at home.
- 1:00:03True. It's my only. It's the train rides and
- 1:00:08or spending the night that ruin it for me. well
- 1:00:12speaking of ruin naoya in a way undisputed super
- 1:00:16bantamweight champion is going to fucking ruin
- 1:00:18cardenas i'm sorry uh i don't make the rules
- 1:00:25it's just gonna happen it's just how it is man
- 1:00:29um i really you know it does look really shitty
- 1:00:33though yeah did you see the picture yeah he looks
- 1:00:36like a fucking alien the way he's trying to cut
- 1:00:39himself down Is it a weight cut thing, do you
- 1:00:42think? He doesn't usually look this bad. I think
- 1:00:45it's a weight cut thing. He's probably ready
- 1:00:48to move up. Part of it is he's had his hair under
- 1:00:52his hat. His cheeks have been really sunken.
- 1:00:58Yeah, you don't usually see that much of his
- 1:01:02face, though, because his hair. But I think he
- 1:01:07looks like shit. Yeah, he does. I think he looks
- 1:01:09like shit. And he's wearing light colors, which
- 1:01:11make him look worse. He always wears light colors,
- 1:01:14but it makes him look worse. I'm going to have
- 1:01:17to check. I'm going to have to watch the weigh
- 1:01:19-in. Which was today. No, it'll be Saturday.
- 1:01:26So it's tomorrow for us. So we'll see how he
- 1:01:30looks. It should be next weekend. That's what
- 1:01:35I meant. Saturday. Next Saturday. Not next week
- 1:01:40from tomorrow. I wonder if it was just him coming
- 1:01:45off the plane and stuff is part of why he looks
- 1:01:48so shit. That's a long plane ride. Oh, hell yeah.
- 1:01:51I know Inouye's not doing it the way I do it,
- 1:01:54but that's a long -ass plane ride. No, it's considered
- 1:01:59the longest flight. that you can take is LAX
- 1:02:04to Tokyo. Makes sense. That's the longest flight
- 1:02:09on Earth. I wonder if that's part of why he just
- 1:02:15looked like shit. Some people don't fly very
- 1:02:18well. And as far as I know, Inoue doesn't fly
- 1:02:21a whole bunch at all. No, because he's been fighting
- 1:02:24in Japan most of his life. Yeah. He's got a whole
- 1:02:29week. He's got a whole week to not look like
- 1:02:32shit. Still, the weight cut could be going bad.
- 1:02:37But yeah, we'll see next Saturday how they're
- 1:02:42doing. I think even in a way looking like shit
- 1:02:47beats Cardenas. Sorry, Cardenas. Is Monday a
- 1:02:52holiday next week? It is, yeah. So that's golden
- 1:02:57week. i forget which holiday there's three holidays
- 1:03:01in a row um so if you take that week off of work
- 1:03:08you only use two vacation days so like half of
- 1:03:12japan goes on vacation that week i see yeah and
- 1:03:16so one day is green day where you're supposed
- 1:03:19to go outside and see plants and the another
- 1:03:23day is sports day and i think Maybe the Emperor's
- 1:03:28birthday is in there, the Showa day. But that
- 1:03:33might be Tuesday this week. The 29th is a holiday
- 1:03:38here. So the 29th of April and then the 5th,
- 1:03:446th, 7th, I think, of May are all holidays. Well,
- 1:03:52that's it. That's all we had on the docket. Let
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- 1:05:13Cool. That's where the outro shit goes. So, this
- 1:05:20is being released. We're heading into The Weeknd.
- 1:05:25Thrinco de Mayo is what I've been calling it.
- 1:05:30Excellent. Because there's three fucking wild
- 1:05:34cards that are coming up. Parting words. Parting
- 1:05:39words. Pace yourself. Ah, that's a good one.
- 1:05:44You don't want to drink too much tequila on Canelo
- 1:05:47night that you miss in a way. Yeah. And that
- 1:05:53one is in the middle of the day. That's not going
- 1:05:57to stop anybody. No, but it goes with the pace
- 1:06:00yourself part because if you've got other shit
- 1:06:03that you've got to do the rest of the day, it's
- 1:06:04okay to be maybe a little buzzed as you're mowing
- 1:06:07your lawn or whatever. Be careful. Drink responsibly.
- 1:06:14Make sure you hydrate. Yeah, smoke a joint instead
- 1:06:18maybe. Try that. See if that works for you. Or
- 1:06:23go foster a kitten. That's fun. That's my parting
- 1:06:26words. Help a local animal shelter. They need
- 1:06:30it. I promise you they need the help. All right.
- 1:06:36That's it for Boxing Before Dark. Does that mean
- 1:06:40the sun's going down if the episode's ending?
- 1:06:43We need like a sundown. What's the sound effect
- 1:06:46in the old western?