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Bershan Shaw is Stage 4 Breast Cancer survivor & Author of “The Unstoppable Warrior Woman” · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: She has an international motivational speaker, career coach TV personnel.
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Speaker 1: A author of the book The Unstoppable Warrior Woman. Mischelle
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Speaker 1: highlights the stories of incredible women like herself. She is
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Speaker 1: battling stage four breast cancer who have a survived unthinkable
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Speaker 1: The author of The Unstoppable Warrior Woman Ms. Brashwan Shaw. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I love that introduction. I'm like, who is that? I
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Speaker 1: love that? Well. I ve a lot. Look, I left
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Speaker 1: where you're right now before we get in the book.
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Speaker 1: and he said he wanted more. He had eight siblings
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Speaker 1: despite of you can still do it. And now you
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Speaker 1: left out some important moments of your father. Your fathers
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Speaker 1: who drove a roider metal truck. Yeah truck, so you
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Speaker 1: know exactly. So I don't want to glass over there
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Speaker 1: because you know, to get to run in a big
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Speaker 1: construction in the DC area, which is phenomenal. You know,
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Speaker 1: there was a person who came from a humble beginnings
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Speaker 1: louis out out from Houston, Texas. So I have no
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Speaker 1: humble beginnings. Drive through the Louisanna all the time to
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Speaker 1: get to Atlanta, or as you drive through the do
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Speaker 1: comedy days back when I was doing stand up comedy.
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Speaker 1: So let's talk about those humble beginnings of your father,
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Speaker 1: because basically he built your bread out, built who you
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Speaker 1: are today. Walk him on truck, I steam truck, come up.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. You know. You know my father
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Speaker 1: and I always asked him. He said, for Sean, you
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Speaker 1: are not where you come from, right, meaning you are
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Speaker 1: you have your background, you have your strength, and your courage.
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Speaker 1: But you don't have to stay in that environment. You
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Speaker 1: can dream big, think big, be big. And my father
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Speaker 1: always said, don't let people put boundaries on your dreams.
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Speaker 1: Don't let people put walls on what you believe in.
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Speaker 1: And so he always told me, even as a little kid,
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Speaker 1: if you're want to be the president of the United States,
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Speaker 1: you can't. I don't care about the color of your skin.
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Speaker 1: I don't care about where you come from. It's where
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Speaker 1: you end up. That's what he always said. It's not
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Speaker 1: where you come from, it's where you end up. And
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Speaker 1: so my father knew he wanted more. He knew that
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Speaker 1: he didn't want to play small. So he said, look,
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Speaker 1: if I have to save money, um selling watermelons, I
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Speaker 1: will do that. I mean like selling watermelons. And then
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Speaker 1: if I have to save money as ice creams, because
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Speaker 1: he saw a need. Kids love ice cream, they love
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Speaker 1: let me get you. Solved the problem. And then he
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Speaker 1: saved up enough money and he moved to Washington, d C.
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Speaker 1: Now let's talk about the whole save of him of money.
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Speaker 1: The life, your life, your father. Now he's the book.
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Speaker 1: He says, he's eighty four years old, still still sparky.
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Speaker 1: Once a day. Ladies in the parties talk about because
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Speaker 1: you know, that's the flipping up the script, you know,
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Speaker 1: because you know your parents they do that for you.
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Speaker 1: They take care of you, they raised you to this point,
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Speaker 1: and certainly the script is reversed with that. How's it
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Speaker 1: dealing with a person like that, who is, you know,
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Speaker 1: getting older each day but still resistant to the acknowledgement
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Speaker 1: that they are getting old each day? How does that
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Speaker 1: deal with your life? Dealing with the motivational cycles that
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Speaker 1: you have to deal with with other people. This is
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Speaker 1: your life now. Yes, it's a tough one because I
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Speaker 1: have a father who is strong. I mean, my father
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Speaker 1: thinks he got Denzel Washington looks Neil Gates money is
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Speaker 1: I mean like meaning he is so confident and I
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Speaker 1: love that and I think that's where I got it from.
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Speaker 1: He's like, never let someone dim your light. He is
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Speaker 1: into like, don't let someone dim your like. So my
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Speaker 1: father is now um, going on eighty five, I mean,
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Speaker 1: still wants to drive, still wants to day women in
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Speaker 1: their forties because he's living and not dying. And when
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Speaker 1: I realized is most people are dying and not living.
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Speaker 1: Most people play mediocre and play small they give up.
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Speaker 1: They just give up. They give up to what life
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Speaker 1: has given them. They say, well, you know, I'll get by.
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Speaker 1: I'm just good enough. I don't want to rock the boat.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be uncomfortable. I don't want to
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Speaker 1: take it this far. I got enough. Like they put
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Speaker 1: come constraints around their dreams and box them. I say
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Speaker 1: go for it. I say go big or go home.
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Speaker 1: I say knock it out the park. And that's when
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Speaker 1: my father believes, knock it out the park. We've been
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Speaker 1: knocking out the parks. Just two thousand eleven. I say
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Speaker 1: that date because that's when the uh, the birth of
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Speaker 1: the warrior warman, we acknowledge your gift. When you walk
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Speaker 1: those stage fearful because of that's the number one fear.
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Speaker 1: And when the book will tell you the number one
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Speaker 1: fear of anybody is public speaking. And you walk those
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Speaker 1: state and then you you told your truth. Talk about
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Speaker 1: that moment which gave the birth of the true warrior woman,
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Speaker 1: and that's you. Thank you. Um. You know it's so funny.
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Speaker 1: I remember my doctor saying, uh, for Shawn, I want
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Speaker 1: you to speak to the audience. And I was like me,
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Speaker 1: why you know? And she said because we gave you
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Speaker 1: three months to live, it's almost two years and we
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Speaker 1: don't see the cancer. And I used to come into
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Speaker 1: chemo with a fur coat, lipstick and my hey shoes.
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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not dying. I Am not coming
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Speaker 1: in with the sweatsuit. Are not done, Like I'm coming
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Speaker 1: in like I'm living. And so I remember doing that
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Speaker 1: speech and it probably was the first time I really
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Speaker 1: really really spoke my truth. It was the first time
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Speaker 1: that I let it all go. It wasn't the nice Brashan,
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Speaker 1: the pretty, the brashan that had it all together, the
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Speaker 1: successful Brashan. It was the real Brashan, the Brashon that
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Speaker 1: had fears, the Brashan that was scared, the brashan that
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Speaker 1: had issues, the brashon that was okay to share. And um,
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Speaker 1: that's when it all came out at that and someone screamed,
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Speaker 1: you are a warrior. She was like, you are a warrior. Wow,
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Speaker 1: you're And that's where my brand came out. And then
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Speaker 1: the whole audience started screaming you are a warrior. And
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Speaker 1: I was like, wow, people are really listening to me.
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Speaker 1: They're really standing up, giving me a standing ovation to
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Speaker 1: listen to me. And it's really interesting when you talk
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Speaker 1: like that, because we are tend to be a fearful
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Speaker 1: to tell our story or or watered down and don't
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Speaker 1: want to tell all the facts and then guess what,
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Speaker 1: the truth doesn't really tell your journey, you know, just
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Speaker 1: to share my side of the story, I'm a I'm
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Speaker 1: a cancer survivor. Okay, I'm when I was recording when
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Speaker 1: I and we can share these moments, emotional moments because
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Speaker 1: you know, I tell people and when they're telling you
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Speaker 1: that you have cancer, I'm in the world stops right there.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, uh, it's not forth life and death.
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Speaker 1: It's probably the most powerful word that you can get
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Speaker 1: from a doctor of somebody of American profession, because all
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Speaker 1: the death just jumps into your world and you start
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Speaker 1: start dealing with instant thoughts of what else, why me?
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Speaker 1: What do I do? Just talk about your moment and
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Speaker 1: when that happened, and like I said, uh, what you're
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Speaker 1: battling and uh and where you are right now? So
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Speaker 1: first of all, thank you for sharing um your story too,
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Speaker 1: because you know, from survivor to to survivor, we're thriving
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Speaker 1: from san Rashan from we dive Um, you know it's
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Speaker 1: true when when you hear you have cancer but stage
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Speaker 1: for terminal breast cancer, um cancer all over your body,
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Speaker 1: your world stopped. I mean it's I mean, you see death,
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Speaker 1: you see when it's my time. And I gotta tell
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Speaker 1: you Rashan, I remember it's so clearly. Um. I said, Dr,
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Speaker 1: what can I do? Like, I mean, what can I do? Like?
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm young, I'm thirty something like, what can
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Speaker 1: I do? And he said, do you believe in miracles?
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Speaker 1: And at that moment, something just hit me in my
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Speaker 1: core and I said, you know what, Hell, yeah, I
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Speaker 1: believe in miracles and I believe in God. And I said,
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Speaker 1: you know what, Doc, I'll see you in teen years
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Speaker 1: because I'm gonna be here. I'm not letting this cancer
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Speaker 1: take me out. And it's something in me clicked. And
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Speaker 1: it was the click of fear or faith. That's what clicked,
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Speaker 1: fear or faith because I could live in fear and
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Speaker 1: say I'm gonna die. Because he was like, get your
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Speaker 1: affairs in order, da da da da. I mean we
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Speaker 1: sent your tests to M. D Anderson, Sloan, George Washington
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Speaker 1: d g W. I mean everywhere, George Town. So it
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Speaker 1: was conclusive that it was staged four. It was conclusive
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Speaker 1: that it was there. It was conclusive that it was aggressive.
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Speaker 1: Like all of this was concluded. This wasn't like okay,
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Speaker 1: they were confused a little bit. This was a conclusion.
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Speaker 1: But I said, I went into that hallway and I said, God,
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Speaker 1: if you keep me alive, just keep me alive, I
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Speaker 1: will um. I will be a vessel. I would try
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Speaker 1: to change the world by by letting them know that
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Speaker 1: it's fear of faith. Which side are you gonna walk on?
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Speaker 1: Because I know I wasn't meant to go this early.
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Speaker 1: I know and if if I do everything and I go,
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Speaker 1: it was my time. But but if you keep me alive,
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Speaker 1: I know I got a journey. I know I have
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Speaker 1: a all and that's bigger than I could ever imagine.
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Speaker 1: And that's what I'm walking in now. Well you know
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Speaker 1: we're not sharing my story cancer because we all know
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Speaker 1: it can come back. And when when my staff came
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Speaker 1: to me and they were talking about your book, the
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Speaker 1: unstopped for Warrior Woman. When when I started reading the
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Speaker 1: highlights and said, okay, she's a survivor. See, I try
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Speaker 1: to when I try to bring on money making conversations.
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Speaker 1: It's real stories because a lot of people have a
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Speaker 1: lot of hype. You know, they how you can be successful,
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Speaker 1: these are the steps, but they're not really successful. How
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Speaker 1: you can make money, but they really don't have any money.
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Speaker 1: But when you're a survivor of cancer and still going
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Speaker 1: through life every day like it's a normal day, because
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Speaker 1: it's not a normal day for me because it can
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Speaker 1: change or were not. I have to take pills. I
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Speaker 1: have to, you know, I have to have six months.
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Speaker 1: I have to go in for checkups and that it
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Speaker 1: could change in the checkup. Okay, I cannot stop taking those. Peoples,
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Speaker 1: I had thyrod cancer, so I have to take thyroid
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Speaker 1: pills and and I can keep lowber pressure pills, all
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Speaker 1: these things, Vitamin D. When when COVID hit, you know,
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Speaker 1: I was one of those candidates that they talk about.
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Speaker 1: You know, have a presisting conditions that can be really
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Speaker 1: highly effective if you get if you contract COVID. How
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Speaker 1: did you deal with the whole COVID in relationship to
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Speaker 1: your health situation? You know, that's a good point because
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Speaker 1: you're right, COVID hit and we are you know, pre
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Speaker 1: existing issues that you know, Unfortunately, I know someone who
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Speaker 1: unfortunately didn't make it, OVID who was the survivor. I
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Speaker 1: mean me, let me tell you. We're saying I have
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Speaker 1: a regiment. I do a green powder every morning. I
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Speaker 1: do Vitamin D, vitamin C, chlorophills fairly and visual well.
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Speaker 1: I mean, like you tell me, I do infrared saunas, exercise.
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Speaker 1: I mean this is my life, right, you know, like
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Speaker 1: I take my health seriously. I may have some gummy
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Speaker 1: bears here and near enough, you know it's not good.
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Speaker 1: I may have a Snickers bar, but I mean I
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Speaker 1: really do take my health very seriously. So when COVID hit, boom,
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Speaker 1: Vitamin D, load up, Vitamin C, load up. Get y'all
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Speaker 1: load up, a regular oil load up. I load up
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Speaker 1: and you have to load up to load up. Take
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Speaker 1: it seriously. And you know I wear my mask, I
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Speaker 1: social distance. I take this seriously. You know. I know
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Speaker 1: some are like, oh, yeah, it's a hoax or it's
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Speaker 1: not that serious. But let me tell you. People are dying,
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Speaker 1: and I know some who have died, like I personally
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Speaker 1: know that. So this is not a joke, a hoax.
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Speaker 1: This isn't a Republican thing or Democrat thing. This is
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Speaker 1: a real thing, a virus. Thing doesn't matter what side
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Speaker 1: you said, it really is And that's why I wanted
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Speaker 1: to bring that up because and talking about different conversations.
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Speaker 1: That's my phone. Excuse me? Is that my phone? What
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Speaker 1: else that I apologize for? Sean? No, don't worry baby,
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Speaker 1: where you got a sharp suit on cool prodcast um?
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Speaker 1: You know I wanted to talk about we edit that out?
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Speaker 1: The work about it? U The thing about when I
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Speaker 1: when let's talk about the book. Now, you know, the
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Speaker 1: unstoppable warrior woman, like I told you before we got
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Speaker 1: on air, to the people that you went to. You know,
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Speaker 1: your story led to stories because it's important and you're
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Speaker 1: you're you're two times yep, you know stage four cancer survivor.
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Speaker 1: Like I told him earlier, I don't know, it could
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Speaker 1: come back on me. That's the fear of cancer. You know.
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Speaker 1: You can never walk out of room and say it
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Speaker 1: won't come back. But you have to do your due
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Speaker 1: dealing just to stop it from coming back. You have
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Speaker 1: to live a healthy life. You have to realize that
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Speaker 1: you can't feel sorry for yourself. I totally agree with you.
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Speaker 1: This is how address you know people. I wear this
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Speaker 1: as a as a reminder when when I'm doing TV shows.
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Speaker 1: If anybody ever asked me Rashan, they said, why you
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Speaker 1: are that? I said, because I'm a cancer survivor. That
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Speaker 1: allows me to but it then closer, let me see
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Speaker 1: it right, you know, it allows me to go in
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Speaker 1: and tell them comfortably a conversation about who I am.
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Speaker 1: Because a lot of people see a cancer a councer victim,
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Speaker 1: or a cancer survivor look in a certain way, acting
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Speaker 1: a certain way, walking a certain way, talking to a
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Speaker 1: certain way. And that's why I was important for me
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Speaker 1: to bring you on the show, because I wanted to
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Speaker 1: show you know, yes, you walk around with this fear.
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Speaker 1: We actual walk around with this this incredible uh negative
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Speaker 1: thing that can happen and stop your life in the heartbeat.
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Speaker 1: But you can't stop living your life. You can't stop
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Speaker 1: looking like taking control your life. People come around. You
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Speaker 1: have to enable them that what happiness, have to enable
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Speaker 1: them with motivation. And that's what you're doing. And that's
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Speaker 1: what the book that you wrote, the Unstoppable Word Woman,
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Speaker 1: that's how I led it to all these other interviews,
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Speaker 1: tell us about it. You know, I realized that Huffington
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Speaker 1: posted an article, I mean, Sam Brashawn is unstoppable, and
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Speaker 1: everything she does, she's unstoppable, you know, because I guess
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Speaker 1: I remember being uh time joiner and he said something.
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Speaker 1: He said, it's so interesting that here you are dealing
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Speaker 1: in the midst of state before going to treatment, and
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Speaker 1: you're out there motivating people. Most people would be depressed
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Speaker 1: at home, don't want to talk about it, just like
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Speaker 1: let it overpass them, don't even don't even like listen
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Speaker 1: to them. They don't want to speak about it. But
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Speaker 1: here you are speaking about it, telling people that they
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Speaker 1: can still thrive, telling people don't live in fear. He said,
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Speaker 1: it's amazing. And when I realized I was unstoppable, there
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Speaker 1: are so many other people with a story, unstoppable to
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Speaker 1: so many other women because as you know, I mean,
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Speaker 1: these movements are coming me too, but it's the woman
18:34
Speaker 1: that's coming out now. It's time for us to shine.
18:37
Speaker 1: I played small for so long. I never realized my
18:41
Speaker 1: business could have thrived like this. I never knew realized
18:44
Speaker 1: that I would be an expert and on television as
18:48
Speaker 1: an expert, a business coach, a career you know, I
18:51
Speaker 1: a leadership coach. I never realized that we'll realize it now.
18:56
Speaker 1: Your book now, uh, you have several chapters in The
19:00
Speaker 1: Poppable Creative Women and How they shine because you lead
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Speaker 1: off with a statement, with a motivational statement or statement
19:05
Speaker 1: or truth. I'd like to call it turning your personal
19:07
Speaker 1: vision into an unstoppable success, unstoppable healing of family and community,
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Speaker 1: getting unstoppable, unstoppably healthy against all odds, choosing unstoppable happiness.
19:19
Speaker 1: Of all those chapters, you know, you know our helped
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Speaker 1: Steve Harvard write several books. There was always one chapter
19:24
Speaker 1: that really hit home with him. And all these books,
19:27
Speaker 1: of all those, of all your chapters, which one resonated
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Speaker 1: the most with you? You know? I like unstoppable happiness
19:34
Speaker 1: because we like to put our happiness on other people.
19:38
Speaker 1: We like to say, well, um, you know it's because
19:41
Speaker 1: of my husband, I'm not there, it's because of my partner,
19:44
Speaker 1: I'm not there. It's because like, stop putting your happiness
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Speaker 1: on someone and find happiness within your Yes, you are
19:51
Speaker 1: the prize. When we start to realize we're the prize,
19:54
Speaker 1: we are the superstars. You don't have to search for anyone,
19:58
Speaker 1: you don't. You have every thing you need to be unstoppable.
20:02
Speaker 1: We just don't step into it. And the book is
20:05
Speaker 1: forty women sharing forty stories of hope, of challenges, of triumph,
20:10
Speaker 1: of of mistakes, of fear, of doubt, of hardcore stories
20:15
Speaker 1: of rape, of purpies. I mean, it's a lot of
20:17
Speaker 1: stories in the of a lot of things. But it's true.
20:21
Speaker 1: That's what the that's what the book is. A story
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Speaker 1: of truth that leads to hope or the thing about it,
20:26
Speaker 1: that's what. That's what impacted me. You know this is
20:29
Speaker 1: I'm a male, but I was impacted by their truth. Now,
20:32
Speaker 1: how do you you know you're motivatorm you have relationships?
20:36
Speaker 1: How did you contact the individuals and did you shape
20:38
Speaker 1: their stories or you just tell them sending your thoughts?
20:41
Speaker 1: How did they How did the stories get into the book?
20:44
Speaker 1: Oh so good point. I mean they sit stories and
20:46
Speaker 1: I helped shape it because every I mean, you know,
20:48
Speaker 1: everyone's not a writer. Everyone doesn't know how to put it.
20:51
Speaker 1: But but I wanted to shape the stories. I shaped
20:54
Speaker 1: the stories around the like sometimes you have to pull
20:57
Speaker 1: out things from people because people don't even think they're
20:59
Speaker 1: on stoppable. People think their story is small, so I
21:02
Speaker 1: had to pull it out. But in the stories, everybody's
21:05
Speaker 1: stories had greatness and every well you didn't have one, right,
21:08
Speaker 1: And then the journalists who went from New York to
21:10
Speaker 1: Africa and came back. She was the journalists. They probably
21:13
Speaker 1: had the longest section in your book as well. Yes, yes,
21:17
Speaker 1: you know, yes, yes, yes, So that was a good one.
21:20
Speaker 1: So everyone's story, I told everyone. Everyone just had their
21:24
Speaker 1: own story. Everyone had their own story, Everyone had their
21:27
Speaker 1: own jority and and that's life. Everyone has their own
21:30
Speaker 1: journey when summer longer, but that is life. I really
21:33
Speaker 1: liked her story. Uh. I liked all of the story
21:36
Speaker 1: from a standpoint of they gave nuggets of inspiration and
21:39
Speaker 1: also overcoming either physical or beautiful. Young young lady got shot,
21:44
Speaker 1: bully experiences, you know, abuse, physical and mental abuse experiences
21:50
Speaker 1: going out there. But the one message that came out
21:52
Speaker 1: more and more, it's like, it's about you stop stop
21:57
Speaker 1: lending your gifts to somebody that doesn't appreciate it. Stop
22:00
Speaker 1: motivating other people who don't want your motivation. That was
22:03
Speaker 1: a message that keeps screaming out through each page that
22:06
Speaker 1: I turned in your book. Tell us about that, Rashan.
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Speaker 1: You know, I think what I try to get out
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Speaker 1: of each story is, like you said, Rashan, it's about you.
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Speaker 1: Stop giving your gifts away, stop giving your purpose away,
22:22
Speaker 1: stop giving stop playing small, stop being mediocre. Every story
22:26
Speaker 1: I wanted you to say, Wow, this is a nugget. Wow,
22:29
Speaker 1: this is a nugget, right like you said, I mean,
22:32
Speaker 1: it's rape, is bullying, It's somebody who lost a hundred
22:35
Speaker 1: and fifty pounds, it's a cancer survivor, it's someone who
22:39
Speaker 1: tried to play small. It's all of these. It's a journalist,
22:42
Speaker 1: it's someone who found their their their life. It's some
22:46
Speaker 1: I mean, I wanted everything. I wanted stories of of hardship, challenges, mistakes,
22:52
Speaker 1: but in the end, hope they made it to the
22:55
Speaker 1: other side. Because if you fall down and you can
22:57
Speaker 1: look up, you can get up. Well, let's talk about
22:59
Speaker 1: the force steps to mindset freedom. You know this is uh.
23:02
Speaker 1: I won't tell anybody we're part of the book, but
23:04
Speaker 1: it's a part of the book that that moved me.
23:07
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of the advice that I followed,
23:09
Speaker 1: and I felt that when I read this, I go
23:12
Speaker 1: home run because we're on the same page. Because I'm
23:15
Speaker 1: gonna tell everybody this, there's certain things you have to
23:18
Speaker 1: do to be successful. You have to be consistent, about it.
23:20
Speaker 1: There's a certain tone. Lazy people aren't successful. They may
23:23
Speaker 1: be temporary, they might win the lottery, but eventually they
23:26
Speaker 1: might be the person who loses the money in debt
23:29
Speaker 1: because they're lazier to their approach and life. And there
23:31
Speaker 1: are certain principles about being successful. And when you start
23:34
Speaker 1: talking about the four steps the mindset that's in your
23:36
Speaker 1: book for Sean, let's talk about change your viewpoint. That
23:40
Speaker 1: was very important because I readily I say that because
23:43
Speaker 1: the journalists that went from Africa from New York to Africa.
23:46
Speaker 1: Who's afraid to go to U c l A. Because
23:49
Speaker 1: it was too far away? But then she moved to Africa.
23:51
Speaker 1: That's changing your viewpoint. And I and I only just
23:54
Speaker 1: using an example that when you talk about change your viewpoint,
23:57
Speaker 1: because I was a person who for some reason New
24:00
Speaker 1: York to u c l A. Which is in Los Angeles,
24:02
Speaker 1: too far away, but New York to Africa years later
24:05
Speaker 1: she was cool with it. You know, I think we
24:09
Speaker 1: we we get so stuck with our mindset. So change
24:12
Speaker 1: your viewpoint is be open for change, be open to change,
24:16
Speaker 1: and board change. Life begins at the end of your
24:19
Speaker 1: comfort zone. If you want to stay the way you are,
24:22
Speaker 1: you'll always be the way you are. If you want greatness.
24:25
Speaker 1: Greatness is on the other side of that theme. But
24:28
Speaker 1: a lot of times we're too afraid to go there
24:30
Speaker 1: because it's too hard, it's too far, we don't know
24:33
Speaker 1: what's gonna be there, we don't know how it's gonna be,
24:35
Speaker 1: and we stay stuff. Right, if you want greatness, you
24:38
Speaker 1: gotta change your viewpoint and change your mindset and go
24:41
Speaker 1: for it. Absolutely can't be afraid of the unknown, and
24:44
Speaker 1: unknown is happens every day. You have a life insurance,
24:49
Speaker 1: you all the insurance, your Hohne owners you sure because
24:51
Speaker 1: it prepares you for the unknown. And that's what life
24:54
Speaker 1: is about. So if you're going out there worried about
24:57
Speaker 1: change it, I might not I might not be successful.
24:59
Speaker 1: I don't that you might get an all the wheel accident.
25:02
Speaker 1: That's the part of my insurance exists. Stopped running away
25:05
Speaker 1: from your past. Oh that's a good one. Come on,
25:09
Speaker 1: come on, come on, trying to go away from your past. See,
25:12
Speaker 1: your past makes you who you are. And my father
25:15
Speaker 1: always said, don't run away from your past, embrace it.
25:18
Speaker 1: I was poor. I grew up in a two bedroom
25:21
Speaker 1: house with eight kids, living in a two bedroom house
25:25
Speaker 1: and we slept where we can sleep. We made it happen.
25:28
Speaker 1: My past made me who I am. Strong. You see,
25:31
Speaker 1: people are embarrassed about their past. I remember coaching a woman.
25:35
Speaker 1: She had made up this lie about she went to
25:38
Speaker 1: Yale Um. She had made up this whole story. She
25:41
Speaker 1: really did go to Yale, but she made up the
25:42
Speaker 1: story that they were lived in Boca, that they had
25:45
Speaker 1: this that was there, that was their country, that was
25:47
Speaker 1: their summer house and winter house. And she she really
25:51
Speaker 1: was from the projects of New York. She didn't want
25:54
Speaker 1: to tell anyone to embarrassed. But let me tell you,
25:56
Speaker 1: your story is who you are now. She tells her story,
25:59
Speaker 1: so I can now tell her a story. But now,
26:02
Speaker 1: like your past, don't run away from it. Embrace it.
26:04
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. It is your fingerprint and your footprint. That's
26:07
Speaker 1: what God made you from your past, from your story.
26:11
Speaker 1: Speak of girls to Rishan, she's speaking to truth. Stop
26:16
Speaker 1: blaming and start forgiving. That is a problem a lot
26:19
Speaker 1: of people have. It ruins relationships, It rules family dynamics.
26:24
Speaker 1: It can ruin business relationship because you blame someone else.
26:27
Speaker 1: And I always tell people it's a two way street.
26:29
Speaker 1: In that blame. It is so true. See, we love
26:33
Speaker 1: to blame because every time you point the finger at someone,
26:36
Speaker 1: three fingers are planning back at you. I need to
26:40
Speaker 1: say that again. Yes, every time you plaint the finger,
26:44
Speaker 1: three fingers are pointing back at you. It's because blaming
26:49
Speaker 1: is easy. Taking responsibility is hard. It's hard to say
26:54
Speaker 1: I failed, I messed up. Yeah, I was wrong, I
26:57
Speaker 1: did it wrong. That's hard because we want to be right,
27:00
Speaker 1: we want to be perfect. We want to say nothing's wrong, No,
27:02
Speaker 1: you were, you messed up. Take responsibility. Let me tell you,
27:06
Speaker 1: I take responsibility way more time than I blame because
27:10
Speaker 1: it's always too. It's always too in that show, not one.
27:14
Speaker 1: It's too in the marriage, not one. It's too in
27:16
Speaker 1: a friendship, not one. It's too in a partnership, not one.
27:20
Speaker 1: And the last one is letting go. And that's so
27:23
Speaker 1: that's a good one. Letting go, Well, that's a good
27:25
Speaker 1: one because we all, I don't care who you are,
27:28
Speaker 1: we all have the experience of holding onto a grudge,
27:32
Speaker 1: holding onto a mistake. And letting go is a really
27:35
Speaker 1: powerful term because it doesn't have to be necessarily letting
27:38
Speaker 1: goals on the relationship. It could be something that you've
27:41
Speaker 1: done and you have not forgiven yourself for that. Talk
27:44
Speaker 1: about your version of it for sean. You know, letting
27:47
Speaker 1: go as hard because comfortable. We love to be comfortable.
27:53
Speaker 1: We love to have what we have. You know, it's
27:55
Speaker 1: so funny, something easy like this. I tell my clients
27:58
Speaker 1: go to work. You know, if you drive to work
28:00
Speaker 1: thirty minutes, you go the same way, go a different way,
28:03
Speaker 1: go through the streets. No, I don't want to go
28:05
Speaker 1: through the street. No, take this right and go No, no, no,
28:08
Speaker 1: it won't work. It'll get me there. See if they
28:10
Speaker 1: don't let go because I want to do it the
28:12
Speaker 1: way I want to do it. I want to do
28:14
Speaker 1: it how I want to do it, the way I
28:16
Speaker 1: want to do it. People let that mess them up.
28:18
Speaker 1: In relationships and marriages and friendships, you don't let go
28:22
Speaker 1: of the things like try something new, you go past,
28:27
Speaker 1: let go of that negative thinking, let go of trying
28:31
Speaker 1: to be right. Let go. You are going to We're
28:34
Speaker 1: gonna have a long time relationship. I'm gonna just tell
28:36
Speaker 1: you that ten years, fifteen years will be like your
28:40
Speaker 1: dad eighty five. You know, I just gonna be looking
28:43
Speaker 1: for the old women. The thing about it is that
28:48
Speaker 1: because everything you say it is the truth in life.
28:50
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes I go home, I go a different
28:52
Speaker 1: way just to see what life is down there, still
28:55
Speaker 1: being careful, still not be an adventures, just seeing a
28:58
Speaker 1: different treat see in a different street, like passing the
29:01
Speaker 1: given gas station. Because from a creative standpoint, you got
29:04
Speaker 1: to be able to look at life differently. So that
29:07
Speaker 1: allows you to come home with a different attitude, come
29:09
Speaker 1: home with not that same I saw it again, the
29:12
Speaker 1: same routine, get off the frey on that same exit,
29:15
Speaker 1: coming down that same back road. I do it a lot,
29:18
Speaker 1: I really do. Right, So when you when you talk
29:20
Speaker 1: like that, I go, wow, she is so dead on
29:22
Speaker 1: because ot the have it. I do these things. But
29:25
Speaker 1: I want to before we wrap up, I want to
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Speaker 1: this great conversation. Thank you for coming on the show.
29:29
Speaker 1: The Unstoppable Word Woman, released October twenty seven, is available
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Speaker 1: in bookstores now. But she's tapping into an area this
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Speaker 1: app that she's dropped mental health. Mental health in the
29:39
Speaker 1: black community of the African American community is kind of
29:42
Speaker 1: like the Kurts. We don't want to admit, we don't
29:46
Speaker 1: two things. We don't want to met. We don't want
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Speaker 1: to mat homosexuality in the black community, and we definitely
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Speaker 1: don't want to men mental health issues in the black community.
29:54
Speaker 1: Talk about the importance of this new app that you're
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Speaker 1: dropping in twenty we're shying yourself right. Look, you need
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Speaker 1: to be a coach on there. You know you have
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Speaker 1: coaches speakers. Oh, I love your energy. So we're gonna
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Speaker 1: Are a Warrior W A R R I O R.
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Speaker 1: They can sign up. They can sign up now, it'll
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Speaker 1: sign up now. You know, it's something people are tired
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30:33
Speaker 1: you know, it's negative. It's always putting something out that's
30:37
Speaker 1: not positive. I want somewhere where people can express themselves
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Speaker 1: about depression, anxiety and stress, where we can really talk
30:45
Speaker 1: to others and we can use avatars if we don't
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Speaker 1: want to share who we are, or we can be ourselves.
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Speaker 1: But it's time to get the help we need. People
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Speaker 1: are committing suicide open yards are up like no other bodies. Business,
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Speaker 1: medications are up. Um, people are depressed in slumps. I
31:03
Speaker 1: just saw Sam Smith say, he was like, I've never
31:05
Speaker 1: been so depressed in my life. Um. You know, staying inside,
31:09
Speaker 1: people feel closed in, not socializing. People are and this
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Speaker 1: is really bringing out this side of people. It's really
31:15
Speaker 1: bringing this out. People want to an outlet, and that's
31:18
Speaker 1: what I'm going to give them. An outlet. You know,
31:20
Speaker 1: it's a place where it's a mental health app. You
31:22
Speaker 1: can express yourself the first thing, sharing your story. We
31:26
Speaker 1: have quizzes on it, we have challenges, we have chat rooms,
31:29
Speaker 1: or you can talk to an expert that has four
31:32
Speaker 1: pillars motivation, personal development, self improvement, and speaking to an expert.
31:37
Speaker 1: I want to be there to help and and really
31:40
Speaker 1: talk about real stuff instead of you know, we can
31:42
Speaker 1: listen to music all day, we can dance all day,
31:44
Speaker 1: we can talk about TikTok all day, but deep inside
31:47
Speaker 1: we're crying. When Elon Musk says that I'm lonely, I
31:51
Speaker 1: need someone to talk to one of the wealthiest men
31:53
Speaker 1: in the world in the world saying I feel alone, Well,
31:58
Speaker 1: you know, and at that absolutely I think that successful
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Speaker 1: people say that because who you talk to, and sometimes
32:05
Speaker 1: when you are successful, you can't show weaknesses and that
32:08
Speaker 1: Andsho and that's a part of mental health. That's the
32:11
Speaker 1: challenge of allowing yourself to say weakness and who you
32:14
Speaker 1: show that weakness too. So you won't be backstabb or
32:17
Speaker 1: you won't be undermined because you're showing these signs of weaknesses.
32:20
Speaker 1: But that's all part of the mental health campaign that
32:22
Speaker 1: you're trying to bring to the forefront. And the reason
32:24
Speaker 1: I'm talking about that, Shaun, is that the Black community,
32:27
Speaker 1: if we don't start accepting therapy as as being all
32:31
Speaker 1: right going to see a therapist or going to see
32:34
Speaker 1: a psychiatrist. It's fine to deal with some some issues
32:38
Speaker 1: that you might have when you're growing up, or you
32:40
Speaker 1: might have in a relationship issues and instead of just
32:43
Speaker 1: going from one person to the next person, basically destroy
32:46
Speaker 1: the good man or a woman along the way because
32:48
Speaker 1: you don't want to deal with your emotional or mental issues.
32:52
Speaker 1: These are important. That's why I wanted to make sure
32:54
Speaker 1: that we talked about it. Tell people again about your
32:57
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33:39
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33:42
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33:45
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33:49
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Speaker 1: the next thirty years and tell Pops he my man,
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