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[BxBD] It's a busy week, but how much is slop? · Boxing B-Sides

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  This shit ain't nothing to me, man. This is Boxing
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  Before Dark. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Back. Back.
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  Back. Back. Back. Before. Before. Before. Before.
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  Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing Before Dark. This
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  is Boxing Before Dark. Alright. Now we do the
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  wind up. it the same every time. Hmm. Get into
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  your pitching motion? Yeah, that's exactly it.
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  I realize that Lynn fucks up the name. Because
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  it's dark there. Oh, yeah. The name of the show
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  is Boxing Before Dark. I mean, I'm basically
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  nocturnal, so I mean... So the daylight is your
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  nighttime. If I look outside, it is. quite black
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  but you know i uh i had a studio jubilee day
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  yesterday yesterday that nice soft anime rain
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  and then i took my umbrella and walked to work
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  and i walked through that abandoned looking area
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  i sent you some pictures leo with all the yeah
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  and it's just like plants and they're dripping
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  the nice gentle rain walk across the bridge on
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  my way back say hello to the fish Nature has
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  reclaimed it. I fucked up the timing and had
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  to go in at 10pm, so I got to walk in the dark
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  in the rain. This is nice. Alright, we ready
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  to rock? Yes. Ready to fucking roll. Boxing before
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  dark. It is very dark where our new homie is.
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  Lynn, how you doing? Well, um, Yeah, I'm on this
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  now. I am also on this podcast. Cool. Reasons
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  of I'm like the only degenerate that talks about
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  British boxing. Someone needs to serve up the
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  Brit slop. We also need someone to make fun of
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  as well. Me and Leo get along too well. Shannara,
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  you're doing alright over there? Yeah, I'm doing
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  much better this week. Yes, me too. What are
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  we talking about? That's one of the lost episodes.
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  You're going to have to go looking for that one.
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  You already know where to find it. Yeah, yeah.
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  Not suitable for the general public. It's all
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  right. It was a good warming up experience for
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  Lynn, I think. Kind of get a good feel of the
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  dynamic. That was generally my fault. I apologize.
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  Very unprofessional. I'll do better. I did nothing
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  at all to improve it. to improve the situation
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  i mean i i woke up drunk and then got talking
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  to you and it went downhill yeah because i had
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  been drinking too and so we just continued drinking
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  that was a terrible idea yeah yeah oh fun are
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  we past 100 subscribers the other uh yesterday
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  two days oh really yeah we broke 100 that's that's
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  really exciting Yeah, I told the guys on B -Sides,
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  and they're all, like, you know, doing typical
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  dude stuff, like LFG, chest bumps, and stuff
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  like that. Man, it's not just you. It's not just
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  us. You guys are both new. I don't know, Shenandoah
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  was a bit more a part of that, building that
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  up. I guess I'm the oldest co -host now, aren't
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  I? Yeah, I think you passed RGF. Who has longest
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  tenured for a while. Nice. You're stuck with
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  me forever, Leo. Yeah, well, don't threaten me
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  with a good time. Once I leave Japan, I will
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  be useless for your podcast. Oh, well, we'll
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  see how we can work it out. Yeah, I got a year
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  left. Oh, speaking of good times, the NHL playoffs.
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  Lynn, you're a fucking NHL head, aren't you?
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  Oh, I'm a good. Yeah, I mean, we made the final.
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  I'm a Panther fan just for context of anyone
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  who actually follows the NHL. Where are they
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  from? Edmonton, Florida. Florida, okay. Yes.
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  That has not been controversial at all, given
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  the whole tax thing, but that's a different debate.
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  Yeah, make the final. We're playing Edmonton.
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  That'll be fun and exciting. If fucking rat -faced
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  Brad Marchand wins beating out the Canadian team,
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  we may have to put Benito on crash at watch.
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  Look, we beat Edmonton last year. We're going
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  to beat them again. Fucking Canadians can cry
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  harder. I don't care. Fucking Florida is half
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  Canadian anyway. Wait, did you say Canadians
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  with the E? No, she did not. That's what I was
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  wondering, because isn't there a team called
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  the Canadians? Yes, you have the Canadians, and
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  you have Canadians as in Canadians the country.
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  But that's mainly just because Quebec exists,
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  and no one likes Quebec anyway, so... Montreal
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  doesn't call them the Canadians, though, Leo.
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  They are the... The old name is the Habitants,
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  some French bullshit from the colonial days.
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  Whatever. That's why they have an H in their
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  logo. I see. And that's why their nickname is
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  the Hab Survivor, if I recall correctly. I know
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  that's one of the names they go by. Yeah, the
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  French Fox. Nobody cares about that. Yeah. We
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  do not like the French. We'll be shitting on
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  the French Canadians a little later as well.
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  Excellent. You know, I would cheer for the Actually,
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  this is a good segue. If I had a team. If I fucking
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  had them. What did they name? Utah Mammoth. Speaking
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  of Frenchmen, the one time I will defend the
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  Frenchmen, Justice for Sarath. Jaime Munguia
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  pops for Peds. Did you see which? Was there a
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  specific one? Exogenous testosterone metabolites.
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  I don't know which one. So that sounds like straight
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  -up steroids. Yeah, so exogenous means from outside
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  the body, and metabolites is... Breakouts. He's
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  brought in, yeah, he's brought in outside testosterone,
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  and they found what his body turned it into,
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  basically. Yep. Oh, that's right. This is your
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  field of expertise. Well, no. But kind of. Kind
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  of. But, yeah, and what camp did he just join,
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  Leo? Oh, he just joined the fucking Reynosos.
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  Yeah. If I can speak here, this reminds me of
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  a tweet I saw from a guy called Takeru on Twitter.
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  He tweets a lot about boxing. Fighters who have
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  been with Reynoso and... who have at some point
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  tested positive. Canelo, Oscar Valdez, Ryan Garcia,
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  Julio Cesar Martinez, Luis Neri, Jaime Munguia.
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  There's probably more, but I can't be bothered
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  to look them up. Those are the big names. And
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  they all popped in Reynoso at some point or another.
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  It's like they got caught for something and they
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  switch up their recipe. That is, they are all
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  getting caught for different things. Exactly.
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  One person pops, and then they just change it
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  up. Wow, what a bunch of fucking scumbags. One's
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  an anomaly, two is a trend. At this point, we're
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  fucking beyond trends. Three is fire, six trainers,
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  and a nutritionist or something, right? Right.
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  Victor Conte went to jail for less. But... Fucking
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  Jaime Munguia goes on pads and can't even knock
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  out a Frenchman? What the fuck, Jaime? He had
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  the endurance to bore the fuck out of everyone
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  for 12 rounds. Goddamn. That's a test of stamina.
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  So he can ask for the B sample to be tested and
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  all that. This is the A sample tested positive
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  post -fight. So it's not even a pre -fight sample.
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  It's a post -fight sample, which is worse. Yes.
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  This is a sample he gave right after the fight,
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  so anything that was in his system was definitely
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  in his system during the fight. Yeah. Wow. I,
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  um... Not like this. Not like this, Trinity.
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  Munguia, I always took him as, like, a well -meaning,
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  sort of, like, quiet kid. Yeah, I always really
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  liked Jaime. And he's a fucking drug cheat. He
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  went to the Reynosos because they had the good
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  stuff, is what it is. Well, at some point, they
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  gotta fucking shut Reynoso down, right? You would
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  think. You would think. But he's in Mexico. So?
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  Mexico has a boxing commission. Yeah. And WBC's
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  based out of Mexico, too. Not like they're gonna
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  stop. Like, yeah. Yeah. I mean, and it's not
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  like it's a Mexico -only problem, but I'm waiting
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  to see what Jaime blames it on. Tainted beef?
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  Are we going with the Clembuterol defense? He'll
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  probably just, like, do what a lot of them do,
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  and he'll be like, oh, I had no idea that was
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  in my system. It's a complete mystery. We have,
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  like, no idea. And then he'll probably say, like,
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  tainted. There'll be, like, something that was
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  tainted or something. And then everyone will
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  move on in about three months and forget this
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  even happened. Yeah. That's what they do. But
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  I don't think Mungi is... Mungi is a big enough
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  name, but not a big enough star. Right? Like,
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  he's a big enough name, everyone cares. But he's
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  not Canelo to get it swept under the rug. Like,
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  because Canelo didn't even get suspended, did
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  he? For the last time he popped? For the one
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  time he popped? No, he didn't. He just... They
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  had the Golovkin fight. The Golovkin rematch
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  was canceled. Yeah, but he didn't really lose
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  any time or anything. No, not at all. I don't
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  think Munguia is that big a star. I think Munguia
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  is going to get... Ryan Garcia, then suspended
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  for a year. Which Munguia doesn't fight that
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  often anyways, but... Still, at this age, that's
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  losing out on some precious time. Maybe not.
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  I guess it depends on how they try to explain
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  it. Eggs? Are we going with eggs again? The only...
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  Wild boar meat? Was Fury wild boar meat? Yeah,
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  I was going to say, the only time I've heard
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  somebody try to cover up straight -up steroids
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  was Tyson Fury. Like, every other time, it's
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  some kind of... It's a PED, yes, but it's not
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  a steroid, which kind of... Same, same, but different,
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  I guess. Is clenbuterol not just a steroid? It's
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  not a steroid, as far as I know. It helps with...
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  endurance and uh oh no it's a it is a bronchial
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  dilator so uh your lungs lungs better yeah it
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  is abused generally by bodybuilders and athletes
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  for its ability to increase lean muscle mass
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  and reduce body fat yep i was thinking anyways
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  mexico to get some It's like, I'm not being tested
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  by anybody for anything, so. Why does it matter?
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  Someone else was talking about it, too, that
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  I think was more serious than I would have expected.
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  And I was like, why? He's like, I don't know.
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  Beach season's coming up. I was like, fuck off,
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  dude. Hit up Eddie Reynoso. Yeah, no shit. If
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  you need that good, good. We know who has it.
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  Let's move into some recent shit. Motherfucking
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  GBM Sports. Lynn, this is why you're here. Because
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  I need to understand what's the significance
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  of... Like, Maxie Hughes, I know his name. Archie
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  Sharp, kind of know his name. How does this play
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  into the broader British scene context? Okay,
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  so... Firstly, this was, like, the only fight
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  of note on the card. Unless you're gonna be,
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  like, that one person who likes women's boxing
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  who's gonna mention Terry Harper was on the card.
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  I know there's somebody out there. That is Leo.
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  No, that's Leo. Leo loves women's boxing. He
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  can handle Terry Harper. Yeah, she beat up some,
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  like, four -year -old German woman that no one
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  had ever heard of, which is, like, standard woman
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  effect. She was undefeated. So, yeah, so I can
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  kind of give props to it. So, when this fight
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  got made... I was like, oh, okay. So Archie Shaw
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  was originally down at 130. His last fight coming
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  into this was against, I want to say, yeah, it
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  was Ryan Garner. He lost that fight. I think
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  it was unanimous decision. Came up to 135 for
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  this fight. I was like, okay. Maxie Hughes obviously
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  got robbed against Cambosis, former Undisputed
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  Champion, just putting that out there. And then...
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  Yeah, Moses does not deserve that distinction,
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  though. No, but I have to state the facts here.
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  Maxie Hughes beat an undisputed champion. A former
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  undisputed champion. Now, that may be one of
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  the worst former undisputed champions of all
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  time, but that's not the point here. We're trying
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  to gas up Maxie. Yeah, so, like, at the 135 seen
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  in the UK, like, the three kind of names of no
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  or at least to me right now, like, I'm not including
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  Joe Cordino in this because I don't know what
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  the hell he's doing. You have obviously got Sam
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  Noakes, who if you've been around the Discord,
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  you've seen me mention him a bit. Josh Padley,
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  who obviously fought Shako and Shortnose and
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  is now with Matchroom. And Maxie Hughes, who
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  somehow ended up with GBM, which I don't even
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  know how that happened. But this was a homecoming
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  fight for him because it was in Doncaster, which
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  is where he's from. Let me just say now, if you
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  guys really want to torture yourself, you can
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  try and dig up the full fight replay for this
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  if you want on DAZN or wherever you watch it.
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  Essentially what happens for 12 rounds is Archie
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  Sharp stood on the back foot, would occasionally
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  do like a little like, like a taunt to make it
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  seem like he was doing stuff. But he was basically
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  just standing on the back foot doing nothing
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  for 12 rounds and lost the fight by wide unanimous
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  decision because he didn't do anything. in an
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  utterly pointless fight where Archie Sharp just
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  made himself look like a complete twat, simply
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  put, who will probably now get, like, no real
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  opportunity for a while. And Maxie Hughes' home
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  fight was kind of ruined because he had a guy
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  who didn't come to fight. But Maxie Hughes won,
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  which is good. I have some brief notes on this.
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  Nothing major because it's, like, one fight of
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  note. You haven't gotten into your notes yet?
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  Well, it's not, like, major notes. It's not major
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  notes. So for each of the cards we have coming
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  up today, I got like a point or two, just so
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  I remember to say them. I'm just fucking with
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  you, Lin. Don't take it too serious. Sure. One
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  thing that could be interesting. I don't know
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  how realistic a fight this is, but both guys
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  are from around Doncaster. Josh Padley beat Maxie
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  Hughes at 135 up in Doncaster at some point this
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  year. Would be incredible. But yeah, Maxie Hughes
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  won. Not sure who he fights next. GBM have cut,
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  like what GBM are doing, a lot of their matchmaking
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  has been more domestic based. So we'll see. I
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  know they have like some card off in the future
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  in Ireland or something like that. But yeah,
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  Maxie Hughes won. Not a whole lot to add because
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  the rest of the card was like either regional
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  fighters or women's boxing. And I do not care
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  enough for women's boxing to even watch it, so
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  someone else can bring that up. Yeah, no, that's
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  Leo's wheelhouse. That's all I've got to say.
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  Leo is American prospects in women's boxing.
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  I got everybody who weighs less than 126 pounds,
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  probably. I moved it up because Inouye's talking
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  about going to 126. He is your ceiling. Yeah,
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  yeah. Josh Padley... Where the fuck is Maxie
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  Hughes? I just go off of BoxRec just because
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  it's a good base. Yeah, I mean, you can look
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  at this. The 135 scene in here isn't, like, massively
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  deep, but we got some guys who are, like, 4 -inch
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  world level. Yeah, like, yeah, I mean, you can
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  look at this from Baltimore. We got, like, no
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  -shoes Padley, and then after that, just a complete
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  chasm. And even getting down to Padley, like,
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  because he's climbing his way up from the fucking
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  abyss. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, he was literally,
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  like, a complete unknown flying to the Chamberlain
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  fight. Like, it was crazy. Yeah. I was curious.
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  He came in on short notice, right? Yeah. I mean,
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  he was literally on a construction site in another
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  continent about three days before that fight,
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  so I'm not sure how much you can really take
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  away from that. The WBA has him listed as number
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  four. Maxie? Who, Padley? Yeah. No, Maxie Hughes.
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  Oh. He's like... I don't know. I didn't look
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  at... WBA rankings because it's all a bunch of...
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  I swear sometimes fighters just fall in the rankings.
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  It's like, who are you? How did you end up there?
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  The WBO has your Sam Noakes at number one. Is
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  he a Queensbury fighter? Yes. What's funny is
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  actually all three of these top three guys are
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  signed to different promoters. Padley is signed
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  with Matchroom after the Shakur fight. Maxi is
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  with GBM and Noakes is with Queensbury. So, if
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  a fight was to happen between any of those three,
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  it would be cross -promotional, technically.
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  So, yeah. We'll see. I want to see, like, two
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  of them fight. I want to see two of them. Like,
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  I mean, if you've seen me in the Discord, you
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  know for a fact I want to see Pathy versus Noakes,
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  but I also am aware that's probably a fever dream.
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  Yeah, getting Queensberry to go outside of their
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  ecosystem. If it's not with top rank, they just
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  don't do it. Unless somebody's paying a stupid
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  amount of money for it. Yeah. I don't think there's
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  a whole lot else to discuss. So, next thing,
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  which actually does also concern me, is the Queensbury
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  card that happens. Unless you want to go to the
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  Shannara with the Japanese one. I was just going
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  to say that the WBA has Maxie Hughes at number
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  four and Pitbull Cruz at number eight. Don't
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  you dare. We got to bring our Mexicans in to
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  fuck up the British scene. We need to introduce
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  a war on boxing. Any Mexicans are just legally
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  banned from fighting a Brit if they have any
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  degree of competency at boxing. It's just not
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  allowed. We can't have... Degree of competency
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  is a really broad term because you could bring
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  in a no -name and they'll fuck up a British fighter.
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  Leo, talk about the Terry Harper fight because
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  I honestly didn't watch this card at all. There's
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  not a whole lot to say about it. I think Lynn
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  covered it pretty well. Natalie Zimmerman just
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  did not have anything that was going to challenge
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  Terry Harper in any way. So congrats to Terry
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  Harper. Okay, we can move on to Kingsbury, I
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  guess. Speaking of somebody that nobody knows.
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  Yeah, we're going with Ekow Esumen gets the dub
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  over Josh Taylor, starting from the bottom. Yes.
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  Moses Itauma. Is it too early to say that Itauma
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  has that real deal potential? Not too early for
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  potential. The potential's there. But it's too
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  early to tell if he's the real deal or not. I
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  mean, Deontay Wilder knocked out like 40 of these
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  motherfuckers in a row. And look how that turned
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  out. And Tyler is the best prospect at heavyweight.
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  That's just a fact at this point. I think the
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  top heavyweight prospect just bar none. Like,
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  who's better than him as a force factor, anyway?
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  Like, are we gonna get Americans trying to tell
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  me that Richard Torres Jr. would beat Atalma?
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  Like, that's not happening here. Oh. I fucking
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  love Richard Torres. So do I, but he's not beating
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  Atalma. Not with that attitude. But he's so cute.
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  Yeah, but that doesn't mean that he's gonna beat
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  Atalma. No, I didn't say he'd beat him. I said
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  I like him more. I like those guys, but I feel
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  like Atalma would just... Genuinely, I feel like
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  a tower could literally kill Richard Torres Jr.
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  in the ring. Just straight up. I keep saying
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  that Richard Torres should move down to cruiserweight.
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  He's the perfect size. He just needs to cut a
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  little bit of muscle and he'll be fine. Should
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  go bridgerweight. Somebody else added a bridgerweight,
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  right? There's two now? WBA, I think. Yeah. It's
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  big guys. I don't give a shit. Yeah, it's semi
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  -big. I don't know the distinction anymore. Hold
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  on. Anything over 154 is big. Alright, continuing
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  on. Nathaniel Collins. This is one that I needed
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  some help with. Who the fuck is Nathaniel Collins?
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  Who is William McGregor? Okay, so I can give...
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  Alright, how much Brit Lord do you want on this?
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  Because I actually know, not like a massive amount,
• 23:16
  but I'm aware of both guys. Hang on, I've got
• 23:18
  to drag this thing up quickly. Because I know
• 23:22
  them. I want to get specific names they've fought.
• 23:25
  Because I obviously have not. So, Nathaniel Collins,
• 23:31
  former British featherweight champion, beat Zack
• 23:35
  Miller, who's the current British featherweight
• 23:37
  champion. And then boxed for the EBU silver belt,
• 23:40
  which is some, well, he beat some no -name Italian
• 23:44
  and didn't look great. And then I'm pretty sure
• 23:46
  he was mentioned he had, like, surgery not too
• 23:49
  long after that fight. So, yeah, took some time
• 23:53
  out of the ring, came back, coming into this
• 23:55
  fight. Lee McGregor was signed with Wasserman.
• 23:59
  He lost to Ayala, who, funny enough, is a Mexican,
• 24:02
  because of course it is. McGregor was coming
• 24:05
  into it off the back of a win. I think that was
• 24:08
  the Music Fury 2 undercard against Isaac Lowe.
• 24:12
  Nothing win. Didn't look massively impressive.
• 24:15
  Coming into this fight, Collins wasn't a massive
• 24:18
  puncher, so I just thought he'd outbox McGregor
• 24:20
  and win a decision. And after three rounds, it
• 24:23
  was quite interesting because Collins was doing
• 24:25
  well. McGregor had a good second round, mainly
• 24:27
  because he just got on top of Collins and kind
• 24:30
  of just pushed him back against the ropes. Smothered
• 24:32
  him a little bit. Basically, he got on the end.
• 24:37
  I'm trying to recall the parts of the fight I
• 24:39
  remember, but round three came, Collins picked
• 24:42
  up that round pretty clearly, boxed pretty well.
• 24:45
  Round four came, and I was like, okay, 2 -1 Collins,
• 24:48
  we've got a fight on our hands here, it's getting
• 24:49
  going. And then McGregor just fell apart, got
• 24:52
  dropped I think two or three times, and that
• 24:54
  was that. I'm pretty sure I was the third knockdown
• 24:56
  at the corner throwing the towel. By far... The
• 24:59
  most, like, high -level, big, like, best performance
• 25:02
  that he's had. McGregor's definitely better than,
• 25:04
  I think, the guys that he was fighting before.
• 25:06
  Collins wins. McGregor loses. Fairly anticlimactic
• 25:10
  in the end. Because I was expecting this fight,
• 25:12
  like, if it was going to be stopped, it was going
• 25:13
  to be late. I thought this fight would be, like,
• 25:16
  clear decision. But, no, Collins got it done
• 25:18
  early. I don't know if he's ranked highly with
• 25:20
  some alphabet body. Nathaniel Collins is number
• 25:25
  four by the WBC. Yeah, I know he was, like, hiding
• 25:30
  around to someone. When I was looking at... So,
• 25:35
  kind of, like, what I've done in my notes, though,
• 25:37
  I kind of know the guy that could be an option.
• 25:39
  One guy who's ranked... So, here's the thing.
• 25:41
  Collins is ranked number four, but do not in
• 25:43
  hell give this guy anywhere near a world title
• 25:46
  fight next, because I'm telling you, he gets
• 25:48
  destroyed. Bruce Carrington is a guy who I'm
• 25:50
  pretty sure is going to be... If we're going
• 25:52
  down the WBC route, he's going to be a target.
• 25:55
  Of Collins. One name I've noted down... Well,
• 25:58
  he's ranked number one by the WBC. Yeah, isn't
• 26:01
  he fighting for some interim belt against someone,
• 26:05
  I think, soon? One thing I've noted down here.
• 26:09
  Could we see... I'm not sure if this will come
• 26:11
  next or what. Collins v. Seguera. Because Seguera
• 26:14
  was the guy who gave Carrington the toughest
• 26:15
  fight of his test. And if Collins can win that
• 26:18
  fight, that then sets up the fight with Carrington.
• 26:21
  If you want to go that way longer term. Because
• 26:23
  he's already ranked highly, so he doesn't necessarily
• 26:25
  have to, you know, go out there and win 3, 4,
• 26:28
  5, 5 -8 before he gets to Carrington. Did you
• 26:31
  say Sagawa? Sagawa, yeah. Sagawa, Sagawa, I don't
• 26:35
  know. Sagawa would fuck up Collins, no question.
• 26:40
  Maybe, but I mean, he's ranked below Collins,
• 26:43
  so... Collins can't hit hard enough. This is
• 26:46
  the African guy, Leo. You remember Sagawa, right?
• 26:49
  Oh, Suleiman Sagawa, yeah, I remember him. Yeah,
• 26:51
  he... fucks Colin up so badly. That dude has
• 26:55
  a chin. A chin, and he hits too hard, and Collins
• 26:59
  isn't gonna be able to keep him up. You gotta
• 27:01
  be on your P's and Q's. Maybe, but Collins is
• 27:04
  ranked above him, so it would make sense to see
• 27:06
  if Collins is a legit top 10 guy. I mean, yeah,
• 27:10
  but I don't think he is. I mean, this is boxing.
• 27:14
  You have to come correct. Collins is serious
• 27:17
  because I know for a fact he's serious about
• 27:18
  this. So, I mean, if he wants to establish himself
• 27:20
  as a top 10 guy in the division, I mean, there's
• 27:22
  your fight. Seagal is not the one to pick. No.
• 27:25
  Not if you're expecting him to use him. I'm sure
• 27:26
  there's some other names around there. Well,
• 27:29
  just style -wise, he's not the one for Collins
• 27:32
  to pick. No, not at all. You've got to come perfect
• 27:35
  to make that work. Frank will find someone. He'll
• 27:38
  find... Knowing Queensbury, they'll probably
• 27:40
  pick some, like, Italian bum that somehow ended
• 27:42
  up with some trinket belt, and he'll end up in
• 27:44
  some positions that end up in a world title fight.
• 27:47
  He could fight Raleigh. Oh. Or not Raleigh. The
• 27:51
  fuck. The other one. Robesi. Oh. That's actually
• 27:56
  one that could be made. That's, like, a top rank
• 27:58
  to Queensbury thing. Robesi Ramirez? Yeah. The
• 28:03
  Cuban? Oh, yeah. He could get beat by a Cuban,
• 28:06
  but he won't get hurt too bad. That's assuming
• 28:09
  Robesi doesn't get, like, tapped on the eye and
• 28:12
  kind of, like, drops out. Yeah, I mean, I kind
• 28:14
  of... But I'm just saying, like, that's a much...
• 28:17
  Much more winnable. More winnable and higher
• 28:21
  reward. Nobody knows who Sagawa is except us.
• 28:26
  Sickos. I mean, I kind of said coming into this
• 28:29
  fight that I didn't think either guy would go
• 28:31
  beyond European level, so... We'll see what Collins
• 28:34
  does. So, yeah. Well, speaking of seeing how
• 28:39
  somebody can do, Ekau Essaman. Where does he...
• 28:44
  We're not gonna mention Yumbi. Who? I don't know
• 28:48
  who that is. I don't know. It was on the main
• 28:51
  card. He fought David Jameson. He's like a cruiserweight
• 28:54
  that is actually kind of not awful, but also
• 28:57
  not amazing. He... Yeah, he's a fighter. It was
• 29:02
  on the main card. Their cruiserweights, no one
• 29:05
  cares. Josh Taylor in the WBO, which would be
• 29:10
  his preferred ranking, he's 11th versus Ekow
• 29:15
  Esselman at number five. So Ekow Esselman with
• 29:18
  this win enters title contention. He's at that
• 29:22
  level with a win over Josh Taylor. Am I underrating
• 29:29
  Josh Taylor here? Josh Taylor hasn't looked good
• 29:34
  in a long time. He's been ass for a minute. I
• 29:38
  don't want to hear this revisionism because if
• 29:41
  you go look at the server and you go have a look
• 29:44
  at what people were predicting for this fight,
• 29:46
  most people were predicting Josh Taylor to win
• 29:48
  this fight. Let's not act like, oh, Taylor wasn't
• 29:51
  good, Esserman was always going to win, blah,
• 29:53
  blah, blah. No, people were picking Taylor to
• 29:55
  win this fight. He was a massive favorite. We're
• 29:58
  saying that... Ekow Esserman is not that good,
• 30:02
  and Taylor should have beat him, and he looked
• 30:04
  like shit. Yeah, fair. I mean... It's not revisionism,
• 30:09
  it's... What the fuck, Taylor? I was expecting
• 30:12
  a dub here. I was expecting an easy dub. Well,
• 30:15
  after the opening couple of rounds, it looked
• 30:16
  like he was going to win this fight pretty easily.
• 30:19
  But Taylor always gases. That is a problem he
• 30:23
  has. And apparently he is not very, um... dedicated
• 30:29
  to boxing when he's not boxing. Yeah, I've heard
• 30:31
  he has some drinking issues. He's Scottish. I
• 30:36
  mean, you kind of have to. It's in our blood.
• 30:39
  I had a quick gander at the CompuBox numbers
• 30:42
  before this because I was curious. On my eyes,
• 30:46
  it looked like Taylor Gastel. So I kind of looked
• 30:49
  at this. One first stat I will read. Echo Esserman
• 30:54
  outlanded Taylor 63 -31 in power punches in the
• 30:57
  final four rounds of this fight. Yeah. So, basically,
• 31:01
  for every one punch, Esserman was throwing double
• 31:03
  up. Yeah. Josh Taylor's jab in this fight landed
• 31:07
  at 3 .6%. Taylor always had a shit jab, though.
• 31:12
  3 .6%. That's a sad number. When I looked at
• 31:15
  the numbers, I think Esserman was right about
• 31:16
  11. That is a sad number. I'm pretty sure he
• 31:19
  lied. I'm pretty sure the comment number said
• 31:20
  he lied about two chaps this entire fight or
• 31:22
  something like that. Like, crazy. Yeah. What
• 31:26
  was Taylor's actual last win? It was Jose Ramirez,
• 31:33
  right? Uh, well, what? No. Clean win. That's
• 31:38
  not a real win. Well, I mean, officially. I said
• 31:43
  real win, not official win. That was fucking
• 31:46
  four years ago. Taylor hasn't been good for a
• 31:50
  long time. I felt he didn't look too bad in Catapult
• 31:55
  2, but that was mainly because Catapult looked
• 31:57
  kind of assed up for it, rather than Taylor actually
• 31:59
  looking that good. That's what I mean, though.
• 32:03
  The last time Taylor looked really good was fucking
• 32:06
  years ago. It also doesn't help that he's inactive.
• 32:10
  Like, if you look at his history fight, he had
• 32:12
  one fight in 2020, which was a one -round knockover
• 32:14
  job. Then he had the Ramirez fight in 21. Then
• 32:17
  he only had one fight in 22, which was Caterpillar
• 32:20
  1. He fights once a year. Yeah, then he had the
• 32:24
  T .O. fight, which was his only fight of 2023.
• 32:26
  He took a year out to take the Caterpillar rematch,
• 32:28
  and then takes another year out, and then loses
• 32:30
  to Esserman. Honestly, I think Taylor's probably
• 32:34
  done. He should retire, yes. I mean, Echo Esserman,
• 32:38
  I've watched his last two fights. He got dropped
• 32:42
  and was losing pretty badly before he got a final
• 32:44
  round stoppage to a guy called Owen Cooper. That
• 32:47
  probably tells you the level he was fighting
• 32:49
  at. Taylor should have won this fight. Yeah,
• 32:51
  I mean, if he doesn't retire after this, I don't
• 32:53
  even know where he goes. What do you do with
• 32:55
  him? You get another guy that's on his way up
• 32:57
  the ladder and you continue putting... josh taylor
• 33:03
  in front of them he's like the i mean a gatekeeper
• 33:05
  at this point taylor's gonna sell out in glasgow
• 33:09
  fucking every time doesn't matter but like at
• 33:13
  what point you go yeah no he's done like if he
• 33:16
  can't even beat domestic level buddhist fighters
• 33:18
  like who are like past their prime like what
• 33:20
  where what fight is there for him like no that's
• 33:24
  what we're saying but he's also just a star like
• 33:30
  As much as people don't like him, Josh Taylor
• 33:33
  is a big name. So he can just fucking victory
• 33:39
  lap losses his way around Scotland for the next
• 33:42
  five years if he wants to. I don't know if he
• 33:46
  has five years left in him. I don't think so.
• 33:49
  I just mean he could. Yeah, if he really wanted
• 33:53
  to, he could squeeze five years out of it. But
• 33:56
  if he's going to keep doing this one fight a
• 33:59
  year shit, cutting way too much weight more weight
• 34:02
  than he's and not taking care of himself than
• 34:05
  it is yeah you should fight boots next because
• 34:08
  that's a really good fight to make jesus it's
• 34:11
  the fight yeah just one thing to add uh josh
• 34:15
  taylor's 34 which 147 is pretty old i think it
• 34:21
  is so yeah i mean maybe like one last fight in
• 34:26
  scotland against somebody but i doubt it Let's
• 34:30
  keep it moving here. May 24th. The Kameda promotions
• 34:35
  in Osaka, Japan. Let's start from the top on
• 34:39
  this one. Angelo Leo versus Tomoki Kameda. Majority
• 34:43
  decision. Is it that Angelo Leo underperformed
• 34:46
  or did Tomoki Kameda overperform? Kameda looked
• 34:50
  way better than anyone thought he would. Kameda
• 34:53
  looked good and he didn't fight like his usual
• 34:57
  self either. It was a much more tactical fight.
• 35:02
  I don't know. I expected Kameda to bang, and
• 35:04
  he just didn't. That's what I thought. I was
• 35:06
  expecting exactly that. Like, he was going to
• 35:08
  try to live up to the Mexican moniker that he
• 35:11
  carries. He did. He did out -Mexican Leo, though.
• 35:15
  Or Leo. He 100 % out -Mexican Leo in the walkout
• 35:19
  and the clothes and the whole bit. Yeah, his
• 35:22
  ring attire was all red, white, and green. There
• 35:27
  was a lot of pundits also giving Leo shit that
• 35:32
  Kameda's Spanish is better than his, too. Which
• 35:36
  is probably true. Angelo Leo's a Chicano kid.
• 35:42
  Yeah, and Kameda lived in Mexico for like a decade.
• 35:47
  Not Albuquerque. What do you expect from him?
• 35:56
  No, I think this was Kameda looking good. Yeah.
• 35:59
  Okay. I kind of thought Kameda was going to just
• 36:02
  look like Kameda, but I don't think he's done
• 36:06
  yet now. No, no. I was honestly walking into
• 36:10
  this. I was thinking like, man, this is probably
• 36:13
  like Angelo is going to do what he does or do
• 36:17
  what he did, at least with Venado. And he's going
• 36:20
  to over deliver. I didn't think he'd get the
• 36:24
  knockout. I thought nobody, nobody's knocking
• 36:29
  out any of the Kameda. I thought at 42 and four,
• 36:33
  that's, that's some serious mileage. So I was
• 36:36
  thinking, but they're all unanimous losses or
• 36:39
  not unanimous. What's the word? Decision losses.
• 36:42
  Yeah. I just thought the mileage was there that
• 36:45
  it would have been like the perfect storm. Nah,
• 36:49
  I don't, I don't think anybody's knocking Kameda
• 36:52
  out for a while still, but. Leo looked good,
• 36:58
  but I just think everybody expected him to look
• 37:00
  better against Kameda, if you know what I mean.
• 37:04
  Yeah, I got you. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah,
• 37:07
  Kameda overperformed. I was happy to see it,
• 37:11
  actually. Like, I kind of thought Kameda, like
• 37:14
  you, I thought the mileage was there, and I thought
• 37:15
  it was just going to be Leo kind of beating him
• 37:19
  up for 12 rounds. It was not. Lynn, did you catch
• 37:23
  this Japanese barn burner? Oh, I did not, actually.
• 37:27
  Barnburn, I say. Yeah. I mean, I knew it was
• 37:32
  a fight. I wasn't massively interested in, obviously,
• 37:34
  like, Japan. The timing. Time zone and stuff.
• 37:39
  Time should have been not terrible for you. I
• 37:44
  don't know. I mean, I sleep until, like, I don't
• 37:47
  even remember what day that was. Like, I, like,
• 37:50
  time in my head is just a blur at the moment.
• 37:53
  It would have been a Saturday morning, kinda
• 37:56
  early, maybe, like, 8? I was probably sleeping.
• 37:59
  Oh, no, that would have been the day that I slept,
• 38:01
  like, super, like, some... Oh, wait, no, wasn't
• 38:04
  that the... Yeah, because that was the day...
• 38:06
  That was the day that we recorded. Yeah, that
• 38:09
  was the day I was up until, like, 9am, so I was
• 38:11
  really sleeping until, like, I had to get up
• 38:14
  and then the brick caught on and stuff. You overnighted
• 38:17
  it. I got like a few hours. I slept that day
• 38:20
  at about 8, 9 a .m. and I woke up at like, I
• 38:22
  think about 1, 2 -ish. And then, yeah. What weight
• 38:27
  class is this one? 126. I was just looking at
• 38:30
  the names. He's at number 6 on BoxRec. Ahead
• 38:33
  of him, Brandon Figueroa, Luis Neri, Fulton,
• 38:37
  Nick Ball, and Espinosa. I don't rate his chances
• 38:43
  very well against Figueroa. Or Espinosa. That's
• 38:49
  pretty much it. Who's Matsumoto? Ah, never mind.
• 38:56
  It doesn't matter any Japanese name I say. They
• 38:58
  won't fight the Kamedas. The Kamedas are still
• 39:02
  pretty blacklisted in Japan. Oh, yeah. They're
• 39:04
  southern boys. Well, no. The Kamedas are actual
• 39:10
  gangsters. Oh, well. Well, in that case. Like,
• 39:15
  not kind of. Like, the Kamedas definitely were
• 39:19
  in bed with the Yakuza. That's why they moved
• 39:22
  to Mexico. Bullshit. They were avoiding the law.
• 39:25
  Well, that is a little bit of rumors. But the
• 39:29
  rumor is that they were fucking around with the
• 39:32
  Yakuza enough that the law was after them, but
• 39:35
  also some of the other Yakuza were after them.
• 39:38
  That's why they went to Mexico. The story, the
• 39:41
  official story, is more... Sparring and improving
• 39:45
  and all that sort of stuff. Better fight environment.
• 39:49
  Yeah. I don't think that's why they left Japan
• 39:52
  for, like, six years. I choose to ignore all
• 39:56
  the information that you just delivered. They
• 39:58
  moved to Mexico for better sparring and training
• 40:02
  opportunities. But the only... What's the promotion
• 40:08
  that does Nishida? It's not one of the majors.
• 40:13
  Muto. The Muto boxing gym. Yeah, you got it.
• 40:17
  I don't know where I got an O, but we did. It
• 40:20
  ends in O. He's from Osaka. Anyways, Muto would
• 40:25
  probably work with the Kamedas because they just
• 40:27
  don't. They're not big enough. Yeah. That's why
• 40:31
  Nishida is so hard to buy tickets for. You know
• 40:34
  what wasn't great? Pedro Taduran. Filipino. Split
• 40:40
  decision over Ginjiro. Shigeoka. This was a really
• 40:45
  good fight. It was. Until the end. Throughout,
• 40:49
  all the way up to the final bell, I was like,
• 40:50
  wow, that was fucking entertaining. I did not
• 40:53
  expect that level of entertainment from strawweights.
• 40:57
  Or that level of power kind of power punching.
• 41:02
  Well, this was a rematch. Yeah. Wasn't it? Yes.
• 41:08
  Yeah. They fought a year, almost a year ago.
• 41:13
  And Shigeoka got knocked out. Like, rough stoppage
• 41:21
  knocked out, but knocked out. Technical knockout.
• 41:25
  And I had thought he had a broken orbital bone,
• 41:29
  but it wasn't. It was orbital shelf, which is...
• 41:34
  The, like, underneath and behind your eye part
• 41:37
  that separates your eyeball from your brain.
• 41:41
  So, ten months ago -ish, he had a broken brain
• 41:47
  casing. Functional portion. Yeah, like, not the
• 41:54
  aesthetic shit in your face. Yeah. The part that
• 41:58
  makes your eyes work. Well, the part that keeps
• 42:02
  your brain... connected where your brain belongs
• 42:05
  oh yeah and not like in your nose right it's
• 42:09
  what separates your brain from your eyes and
• 42:12
  your nasal cavity and the fucking jbc let him
• 42:15
  fight the same guy in 10 months what the fuck
• 42:18
  japan yeah but the fight itself was great and
• 42:23
  everybody always says that the little guys have
• 42:27
  no power but right now minimum weight has some
• 42:29
  killers And everybody's gonna tell me I'm fucking
• 42:33
  delusional. But it's true. I would have to agree.
• 42:38
  I'm also fucking degenerate, though, so, like,
• 42:40
  who cares what I think? But, like, who's the
• 42:44
  little Mexican guy? Collazo is Puerto Rican.
• 42:48
  Okay. So, sorry. But that guy gets knockouts.
• 42:53
  Sure does. Like, real shut -your -brain -off
• 42:56
  knockouts. But as weird as it is to say, I think
• 42:59
  Shigeoka was just too small for boxing. He's
• 43:03
  a tiny guy. He made Taduran look huge by comparison.
• 43:10
  Yeah. Like, I don't think Shigeoka does much
• 43:14
  of a weight cut for 105. If there was a division
• 43:18
  below 105, he should fight at that. Yeah. He's...
• 43:23
  I think... I have to check. But I was thinking,
• 43:29
  like, is he an actual little person? No, he's
• 43:34
  not that small. He's 5 '0". Okay, so he's right
• 43:37
  on the cusp of it. He's just delicate. Like,
• 43:42
  small -boned. But anyways, I guess for anyone
• 43:46
  who didn't watch it and doesn't follow Japanese
• 43:48
  boxing, we haven't actually said what happened
• 43:50
  yet. Oh, right. So... uh shigeoka looked good
• 43:56
  during the entire fight right up to the end of
• 43:59
  round 12 and like he didn't look that buzzed
• 44:04
  he didn't look hurt really at all he fought right
• 44:09
  to the 12th afterwards he kind of looked a little
• 44:13
  um disappointed more than anything i think well
• 44:18
  see i was a little He kept shutting his eyes.
• 44:21
  That's what I was worried about. He's closing
• 44:25
  his eyes and wobbling around a little bit. But
• 44:29
  he didn't wobble until after they announced it.
• 44:32
  It was minutes after the final bell. And then
• 44:36
  all of a sudden he wobbled. And his team was
• 44:39
  yelling at him. And they called the doctor and
• 44:43
  the ambulance. And at one point, I do think he
• 44:46
  kind of... He didn't collapse, like, but somebody
• 44:51
  held him up, I think. He sat down in the stool
• 44:54
  of his own accord. Did he? Okay. Yes. But it
• 44:58
  was at that point, like... Shit looked bad. Yeah,
• 45:01
  it was the same fucking story as Anaguchi. As
• 45:05
  soon as he sat down... Except Anaguchi looked
• 45:07
  bad at the end of the fight. The whole time.
• 45:10
  Yeah, you're right. Yeah. You're right. It was
• 45:12
  just like... Like, Shigeoka didn't look that
• 45:14
  bad. You're that's yeah, you're right. That's
• 45:17
  what was more surprising was that he didn't look
• 45:20
  that bad. And then he sits down and suddenly
• 45:23
  he never got knocked down. No, not you wouldn't
• 45:27
  even call any of those like for the amateur aficionado
• 45:32
  is like not there weren't even any like standing
• 45:34
  eights. No, he he looked good the whole fight.
• 45:38
  And then he did. collapse isn't the right word
• 45:42
  but he looked like shit and they got the stretcher
• 45:45
  and they stretchered him out and he was like
• 45:47
  rubbing his nose and stuff on the stretcher and
• 45:50
  he looked like he was responding to people on
• 45:52
  the stretcher but they took him to the hospital
• 45:55
  uh he had swelling on his brain they had to do
• 45:58
  a craniotomy where they take a piece out of your
• 46:00
  skull to relieve the pressure he's officially
• 46:03
  been retired by the jbc because he's young yeah
• 46:07
  he's in his 20s uh he doesn't have his name on
• 46:12
  his age on box rec but i think i think he's 24
• 46:17
  ish like he's young young and uh so they did
• 46:22
  the surgery and they me and you have a different
• 46:27
  interpretation of the press release i thought
• 46:31
  they were keeping him under sedation so far and
• 46:34
  they haven't actually woken him up but he is
• 46:37
  no longer on a ventilator The no longer on a
• 46:40
  ventilator is definitely correct, but you read
• 46:43
  it as he was awake. I read it as he was still
• 46:46
  asleep. I read it as he was, even if it was marginally,
• 46:51
  but he was still aware of the people around him
• 46:55
  and what was happening. That's how I took it,
• 46:58
  but I could be completely wrong. I read it as
• 47:01
  they were still keeping him anesthetized, basically.
• 47:05
  Like he's in a doctor -induced sleep. Not a,
• 47:09
  I can't wake up sleep. Shigeoka's 25. October
• 47:14
  18th. That's really young. Yeah. So it seems
• 47:20
  more promising than Anaguchi. Yeah. Anaguchi
• 47:23
  never got off the ventilator. No, that was just
• 47:26
  like bad news every day. He also didn't live
• 47:29
  this long, so. From his brother, Yudai, I'm going
• 47:36
  to read his little press statement. It's been
• 47:39
  translated by Google, I assume. Yeah, it's a
• 47:43
  translated version, so there are some parts...
• 47:46
  That don't translate very well. Yeah, we'll get
• 47:49
  to that. I'm sorry to have worried everyone about
• 47:52
  Ginjiro. It's the fifth day since he was hospitalized.
• 47:55
  They say the next week will be the most critical.
• 47:58
  At first, he needed a respirator, but now he
• 48:02
  can breathe on his own, and other indicators
• 48:04
  don't seem to be getting worse. If he can get
• 48:07
  through the next two or three days, the doctors
• 48:09
  will be able to tell us about the next steps.
• 48:12
  I'm sure everyone's support and wishes are reaching
• 48:14
  Gein. I guess shorthand. He's trying desperately
• 48:19
  to live. Gein has never given up before. He's
• 48:22
  strong, so he'll be fine. I believe in him too.
• 48:25
  I'll let you know if anything else happens so
• 48:27
  that you can feel at ease. Please leave it to
• 48:29
  me. Please continue to pray for him. Thank you.
• 48:33
  Yeah, so. The one part that I. took as a like
• 48:39
  mistranslation is he's trying desperately to
• 48:41
  live i think i feel like that translated into
• 48:44
  something worse than what it really was is that
• 48:48
  like he's just i don't know he's in the condition
• 48:51
  he's in and he's trying his best but i don't
• 48:55
  know about desperately uh maybe i don't know
• 48:58
  yeah i don't know it's sad i'm not sure This
• 49:04
  sounds more promising than Anaguchi. Absolutely.
• 49:06
  But we'll see how he does when he wakes up. If
• 49:10
  he wakes up. Within days of Anaguchi, we were
• 49:13
  already hearing, like, he's struggling on the
• 49:16
  ventilator. Yeah. He's not responsive to, like,
• 49:19
  physical stimuli. It got pretty fucking dark.
• 49:25
  Pretty fast. Yeah. This sounds a little bit quicker.
• 49:29
  But, Hatteran... has shown that he is top of
• 49:34
  the division style. So Collazo has two belts.
• 49:41
  Melvin Jerusalem has the other one. Do you think
• 49:45
  you go for unification against Jerusalem? That's
• 49:48
  a Filipino on Filipino thing. I'm not sure if
• 49:51
  they're going to do that. I don't know culturally
• 49:53
  how the Filipinos get down with stuff like that.
• 49:57
  Like Mexican on Mexican battles, people love
• 50:01
  that shit. but i i could see this is so small
• 50:05
  nobody else in the world cares yeah have an all
• 50:09
  filipino match in manila or what yeah manila
• 50:14
  yeah yeah okay i said it and then i wasn't sure
• 50:17
  but like i could see filipino filipino in the
• 50:20
  philippines and then go knock off this puerto
• 50:23
  rican in america would be cool although america
• 50:27
  doesn't give a shit yeah they would probably
• 50:29
  bring clear also to manila yeah that would be
• 50:34
  pretty dope to have an undisputed fight in uh
• 50:37
  in manila yeah i i would be here for it i would
• 50:42
  like to see it i think i think filipino versus
• 50:45
  filipino and then undisputed anyone who cares
• 50:51
  is gonna be in the right time zone for manila
• 50:54
  i mean the only people that are gonna watch it
• 50:57
  are gonna be me and a bunch of Japanese, Thai,
• 51:00
  Filipino dudes. I bet, though. Philippines versus
• 51:06
  Puerto Rico is a thing. It's a rivalry because
• 51:09
  of Pacquiao and Cotto. Yeah. They'll play that
• 51:14
  up for sure. You could put an undisputed minimum
• 51:19
  weight on the Puerto Rico Day fight card as,
• 51:24
  like, co -main. And show the fucking world how
• 51:27
  fun these dudes are. Like, all these guys can
• 51:29
  bang. Jerusalem's probably the weakest. Yeah,
• 51:34
  he's more of the boxer type that I've seen. Yeah.
• 51:37
  But the other two have knockout power. It might
• 51:41
  take 50 fucking punches, but they throw 100 punches
• 51:44
  around anyways. They're bruisers, not, like,
• 51:48
  one -hitters. Well, Collazo can one -hit. True.
• 51:54
  That's a true statement. I mean, he won't every
• 51:58
  time, but he can. Holy shit. Looking at the time.
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  That's for me to know and you to find out. Eye
• 57:11
  of the Tiger on June 5th. This is some shit that's
• 57:14
  coming up. Who had notes on this one? Was it
• 57:18
  Lynn? I have notes. I have notes, because I'm
• 57:23
  not, like, super familiar with the Canadian scene,
• 57:25
  but I watch their cards here and there, because
• 57:26
  I know a Canadian that follows this stuff that
• 57:28
  I speak to. So, the weird part about this card
• 57:32
  is, like, basically, like, everything was TVA
• 57:34
  on BoxRec and, like, online until about the last
• 57:37
  couple, like, literally until about, I think,
• 57:38
  yesterday at the time of recording this. So...
• 57:42
  In terms of who we have on this card, I'll just
• 57:44
  bring it up because I have the notes, but I can
• 57:46
  look at this more in depth and it's easier. So
• 57:50
  originally, this was going to be a... So you're
• 57:53
  going to have Vyazlinov on this card, who's obviously
• 57:56
  signed with them and he's a name at 140. And
• 57:59
  you're also going to have Katayev. But obviously
• 58:02
  now Katayev is fighting Moel next month, so he's
• 58:04
  no longer on this card because obviously if he
• 58:06
  takes a bad card or whatever, that fights off.
• 58:10
  So on this card, we have Albert Ramirez, who
• 58:12
  I've only ever seen one fight of him. That was
• 58:15
  his last fight. He's a 20 -0 guy. He's fighting
• 58:17
  some no -name fighter. Like, this entire card
• 58:21
  is just entirely mismatches. There are some names.
• 58:25
  Standard Eye of the Tiger. Yeah. Yeah, basically.
• 58:28
  It's in Montreal, right? Yeah. Yeah, there's
• 58:32
  going to be some gambling stuff. I mean, it's
• 58:35
  at a casino, so... Yeah. Meme Una, who was a
• 58:40
  former Olympian. Well, I say Olympian. I'm pretty
• 58:43
  sure he went to, like, one fight at the Olympics
• 58:45
  and lost. But that still technically makes you
• 58:47
  an Olympian if Pat Brown's being called an Olympian.
• 58:50
  He's fighting some guy who I looked at his BoxRec
• 58:53
  page. Firstly, he looks about 17. And secondly,
• 58:57
  he's coming up from 167, where he just lost for
• 59:00
  the Polish super middleweight title. So any degenerates
• 59:04
  got any knowledge on that guy, then I'm here
• 59:07
  for that. 8 -3 -3 -5 -8 -9 -7 -6 -3 -7. He might
• 59:12
  look 17, but he's 27. Yeah, I mean, allegedly
• 59:17
  he's 27. Those box sex photos are always fucking
• 59:23
  old. Yeah, he... Apparently he's been stopped
• 59:27
  before. Oh, okay, that was like way back in the
• 59:30
  day. But regardless, Christopher Guerrero, who's
• 59:33
  a guy I've watched his last couple of fights,
• 59:36
  he's pretty solid. He's fighting a guy who, as
• 59:39
  a British fan, I actually can give some mild
• 59:43
  info on. Williams Andres Helena, who with a name
• 59:47
  like that shockingly isn't Ecuadorian or Venezuelan
• 59:50
  or Colombian. He's actually Argentinian. He's
• 59:53
  boxed twice in the UK. One was when he got stopped
• 59:57
  by Paddy Sullivan, and the other was when he
• 59:59
  lost a unanimous decision 10 rounds to none on
• 1:00:03
  all three cards against Pat McCormick on a match
• 1:00:05
  we ran the card. Well done. So, I mean, the guy's
• 1:00:08
  got some degree of durability, I guess. Yeah.
• 1:00:11
  He doesn't come to lay down for the A -side,
• 1:00:13
  if there's, for whatever that's worth. I mean,
• 1:00:15
  he'll probably, I mean, he'll give Cabrera rounds.
• 1:00:18
  I don't see him winning. He'll give him good
• 1:00:20
  work. Yeah, I mean, he'll survive. I mean, that's
• 1:00:24
  better than the average eye of the Tiger management
• 1:00:26
  opponent. Bjarzanov was always confirmed on this
• 1:00:29
  fight. I think there was rumors going around
• 1:00:31
  that he was going to fight some South African,
• 1:00:32
  but that's not happening now. Yeah, it's... a
• 1:00:36
  very one -sided car, but there are names on there
• 1:00:39
  that I would suggest watching for, because they're
• 1:00:40
  pretty good. Like, Villar's love is solid. Guerrero's
• 1:00:43
  solid. You know, Ramirez didn't particularly
• 1:00:45
  impress me in their last fight, but they've got
• 1:00:48
  an undefeated record, so they're at, like, heavyweight.
• 1:00:51
  They might blow up a world title shot at some
• 1:00:53
  point. And, yeah, Fedor is a prospect. So, yeah.
• 1:00:57
  I will say one thing for Collado. Collado, he
• 1:01:01
  never fought outside of Spain, while Bruno Saras
• 1:01:04
  never fought outside of France. Sandor Martin
• 1:01:07
  had never been outside of Spain until he fought
• 1:01:10
  Mikey Garcia. We'll see what he does, but I'm
• 1:01:14
  seeing three KOs in 19 fights. I made so much
• 1:01:16
  money on that, Leo. Well, for me. I never bet
• 1:01:19
  big. Not life -changing money, but I made so
• 1:01:22
  much money on that. If you're expecting some
• 1:01:27
  50 -50 wars, don't watch this card. But if you
• 1:01:30
  want to watch some guys beat up some cans, yeah,
• 1:01:32
  you can kill off a couple of hours of this. That's
• 1:01:34
  what I'll do. That's what I'll probably do. This
• 1:01:36
  is a card on the Thursday. And so the way that
• 1:01:38
  I always bring it up is, like, if you are hankering,
• 1:01:41
  you're just fucking jonesing for some boxing.
• 1:01:44
  Like, it's a Thursday night. You don't have shit
• 1:01:47
  else to do. There's going to be Eye of the Tiger
• 1:01:49
  on ESPN. So there you go. But don't expect it
• 1:01:53
  to be pro box. Don't expect good competitive
• 1:01:56
  boxing. You're getting boxing, but it's not necessarily
• 1:02:01
  the best. Speaking of toy box, the next card
• 1:02:05
  is in the U .S. that is to discuss, and I will
• 1:02:08
  now hand it back over to you two. June 6th, Star
• 1:02:12
  Promotions and Salida Promotions are doing a
• 1:02:15
  collab. I don't have a whole lot of information
• 1:02:18
  on this. Brandon Moore versus Stanley Wright.
• 1:02:21
  There you go. Oh, I know why I made the cutoff
• 1:02:26
  where I made it. Wendy Toussaint is a hilarious
• 1:02:29
  name for this man. Just click on his picture.
• 1:02:33
  Yeah, I know Wendy Toussaint. Yeah, it's just
• 1:02:38
  a really funny name to me. That's why I put this
• 1:02:41
  card on the outline. I do this shit all the time
• 1:02:43
  on Ultimate F 'n Casuals where it's like... I'm
• 1:02:47
  watching these Muay Thai cards, and you know
• 1:02:50
  how Thai names can be. I fucking love Thai names.
• 1:02:53
  That one company that bought everybody and gave
• 1:02:57
  them kitty cat names. Yeah, like Pet Garfield,
• 1:03:02
  Pet Kitty, Pet Gato. Like, get the fuck out of
• 1:03:07
  here. I think there was like a Mr. Fluffy. Fucking
• 1:03:11
  love it. Yeah, Wendy Toussaint is a fun name.
• 1:03:15
  He's not the first Toussaint I've met. But I've
• 1:03:17
  never met a dude named Wendy before. That's a
• 1:03:20
  first. I did know somebody who was super annoying
• 1:03:24
  whose name was Wendell that everybody called
• 1:03:27
  Wendy. Moving on to Queensberry on the... Oh,
• 1:03:35
  no. Wasserman. Yes. Now, I'm going to get this
• 1:03:40
  over quickly because it's a Wasserman card and
• 1:03:42
  there's not a whole lot to discuss. There's like
• 1:03:43
  two names on the card that I think... Anyone
• 1:03:46
  outside the UK needs to know. Which are Josh
• 1:03:49
  Kelly's headlining. You know, he was a prospect
• 1:03:53
  once. He's a guy. And then he actually bought
• 1:03:55
  someone good and got immediately destroyed. We
• 1:03:58
  talked about Josh Kelly before. Yeah, we've mentioned
• 1:04:01
  him a few times. And also on this card, I'm not
• 1:04:03
  sure why he's with Wasserman. I don't know if
• 1:04:05
  he signed with them or what. Or if he's just
• 1:04:07
  here for a fight. Because I'm pretty sure he
• 1:04:08
  was with, I want to say Matchroom before. Felix
• 1:04:11
  Cash is back on this card. Felix Cash is a name
• 1:04:14
  I recognize. Yes. He actually stopped Denzel
• 1:04:18
  Bentley back in the day. That's how I know him.
• 1:04:20
  He was a very good fighter. Probably gave Jalabek
• 1:04:23
  one of his toughest fights. Felix Cash has done
• 1:04:27
  nothing since. He had two low -level fights and
• 1:04:30
  then came back to fight Tyler Denny last year.
• 1:04:33
  And that fight ended early due to a cut due to
• 1:04:35
  an accidental clash of heads. I'm just looking
• 1:04:37
  at what it says on Volkswagen. So he hasn't boxed.
• 1:04:40
  since then and that fight was in june of last
• 1:04:42
  year so he would have been out the wing for almost
• 1:04:44
  a year uh he he's not he's not fighting anyone
• 1:04:48
  notable it's a guy who has a record of 2017 and
• 1:04:51
  one and he's 39 if you want to see blood though
• 1:04:54
  felish cash is the guy to watch because he cuts
• 1:04:57
  every fucking fight and half of them are bad
• 1:05:01
  yeah i mean we'll see how he looks but he i don't
• 1:05:06
  know what he's doing with this because he's he's
• 1:05:08
  32 now He's done nothing since he stopped Bentley,
• 1:05:12
  which has aged well. And now he's on a Wasserman
• 1:05:14
  card. And, like, if you're in British boxing
• 1:05:16
  and you're ending up on a Wasserman card, that's
• 1:05:17
  a sign your career is not going well. It's good
• 1:05:20
  to know what the context of Wasserman is. Because
• 1:05:23
  I know them because the Sauerland Brothers, they
• 1:05:26
  sponsored the World Boxing Super Series. That
• 1:05:29
  was, like, seven years ago. Okay, yeah. Well,
• 1:05:33
  I mean, they're the dude to have Harlem Eubank.
• 1:05:36
  They also signed Michael Conlon lately, who,
• 1:05:38
  I mean, I don't know why he's come back to boxing.
• 1:05:41
  That dude is hooked. But, I mean, I guess they
• 1:05:43
  can cash him out in one last fight somewhere
• 1:05:46
  on the domestic scene, which is his level now.
• 1:05:49
  I wanted Mickey Conlon to be good. I wanted it
• 1:05:52
  so bad. Yeah, I mean, it just sometimes doesn't
• 1:05:56
  work out when you turn pro. I mean, I honestly
• 1:05:59
  thought after... I get it. It just made me sad.
• 1:06:01
  Who was the guy he thought that he got destroyed
• 1:06:03
  by? Jordan... Yeah, it was Jordan Gill. Lee Wood.
• 1:06:08
  No, Jordan Gill was the dude... Lee Wood did
• 1:06:11
  not beat his ass. Lee Wood was getting fucked
• 1:06:14
  that entire fight. The fight that I saw was the
• 1:06:17
  Jordan Gill fight where Colin basically looked
• 1:06:19
  hurt any time Gill, who had a really low KO percentage,
• 1:06:23
  landed on him. I was like... this guy's gonna
• 1:06:26
  retire. And then after he disappeared for a while,
• 1:06:29
  I was like, oh, he's retired. And then it came
• 1:06:31
  out earlier this year that he's back now. He
• 1:06:34
  went into promoting, because he's promoted a
• 1:06:36
  couple pro box cards in Ireland. Has he? Jamie
• 1:06:41
  Conlon's the primary one. Yeah, but Mickey Conlon
• 1:06:46
  was doing it too. He's on it, yeah, for sure.
• 1:06:49
  I took it out of my head. I choose to believe.
• 1:06:53
  Lee Wood was whooping that ass. He was not. Before
• 1:06:57
  he knocked him out of the ring. I don't think
• 1:06:59
  Lee Wood's capable of whooping anyone. He normally
• 1:07:02
  just gets into a war and then somehow ends up
• 1:07:04
  winning. Like, his entire fucking career. And
• 1:07:08
  we're fucking here for it. We're here for every
• 1:07:10
  fucking second. Yeah, well, I think he's done.
• 1:07:13
  I think the train is done, but I was so on the
• 1:07:16
  Lee Wood train. I was so on board. So, yeah.
• 1:07:20
  Just quickly, going back to the last one card.
• 1:07:22
  Josh Kelly's headlining. Obviously, he beat Ishmael
• 1:07:25
  Davis on short notice. That was originally meant
• 1:07:28
  to be Liam Smith, but obviously, Smith pulled
• 1:07:30
  out and got destroyed by McKenna instead. He's
• 1:07:35
  fighting a guy called Flavius Beer. Now, ignoring
• 1:07:38
  the fact that he kind of sounds like a Roman
• 1:07:39
  emperor, which does kind of make sense when you
• 1:07:42
  consider he's Romanian. He's 24 -1. Whoa, whoa,
• 1:07:45
  whoa, whoa. We gotta go back for a second. How
• 1:07:49
  does him being Romanian make sense for a Roman
• 1:07:51
  Empire? There's, like, there's some historical
• 1:07:56
  thing there, though. Or am I just making sure?
• 1:07:57
  Regardless. The Roman Empire is from Rome, not
• 1:08:01
  Romania. Yes, I know. But, like, there's some...
• 1:08:05
  Look, this is a boxing thing, not a history thing.
• 1:08:09
  If you want to be a historical nerd, fucking
• 1:08:11
  whatever. Fucking nerd. Anyway. I had a look
• 1:08:15
  when this guy got announced because I was like,
• 1:08:16
  who the fuck is this guy? Is he like some secret
• 1:08:18
  like snap, like insane, like hidden European?
• 1:08:21
  No, most of his fights were in Romania. He also
• 1:08:25
  hasn't had a fight since May of 2024. So, yeah,
• 1:08:30
  I mean, yeah, this, I mean, it's another pointless
• 1:08:36
  fight for Josh Kelly. The real question is whether
• 1:08:39
  Kelly can stop him, but I doubt it. He'll probably
• 1:08:41
  just win it in an endless decision in a very
• 1:08:43
  boring fight. But, I mean, it's a card. In the
• 1:08:48
  UK, this card will be free. I don't know how
• 1:08:50
  you would watch it elsewhere. It might have a
• 1:08:52
  YouTube stream or something, but it's on Channel
• 1:08:53
  5 in the UK. That's about all I've got to say.
• 1:08:56
  There's not a lot. Well, the Brit slap continues.
• 1:09:04
  Fabio Wardley versus Justice Hooney. Before we
• 1:09:06
  get to the main event, is there... Dillian White,
• 1:09:10
  has his opponent been determined? No. I had a
• 1:09:13
  look earlier. It's still to be announced. So
• 1:09:15
  if I had to guess, they're going to drag some...
• 1:09:18
  They're either going to drag in some fat Argentinians
• 1:09:21
  and roll over, or they're going to bring in a
• 1:09:22
  fat African to roll over. That's usually how
• 1:09:24
  this goes. Who was the dude that Richard react
• 1:09:28
  for? We get him in off the couch. Not for this
• 1:09:33
  fight, obviously, but there's been rumors that
• 1:09:36
  people want Dillian White versus Dave Allen now.
• 1:09:42
  Yeah, I'd heard about that. The whole argument
• 1:09:44
  is, well, Dillian White is shot. I don't know
• 1:09:47
  if that fight starts for either of them. Yeah,
• 1:09:49
  but what does that fight do for either of them?
• 1:09:51
  If Allen loses, then he's now just completely
• 1:09:55
  fucked. The answer is yes. And if White wins,
• 1:09:57
  what does that do? Well done. You beat a dude
• 1:09:59
  whose best win in the last couple of years is
• 1:10:01
  Johnny Fisher. They both really need it. White
• 1:10:06
  gains nothing out of it. White gains nothing
• 1:10:12
  out of any of these fights he's taking. White
• 1:10:16
  was meant to fight Joyce until he got injured.
• 1:10:21
  Yeah, but I'm just saying in the last two years...
• 1:10:24
  Three years, maybe? Dave Allen would be the biggest
• 1:10:27
  name that White has fought. Well, I mean, he
• 1:10:31
  had the whole drug thing which kind of screwed
• 1:10:33
  him over and meant that he couldn't fight in
• 1:10:35
  the UK, I'm pretty sure, which is why he had
• 1:10:37
  a fight in Gibraltar against Tese and had a fight
• 1:10:40
  off in Ireland against Christian Hammer. That
• 1:10:42
  Tese fight, by the way, he looked dreadful. I'm
• 1:10:46
  just saying, Dave Allen would be the biggest
• 1:10:49
  name Dillian White has fought in a minute. Jesus.
• 1:10:53
  I don't know. I mean, it would be a fun slop
• 1:10:56
  fight, but it's kind of pointless. And I don't
• 1:11:00
  know. Brit slop is why they're fucking here.
• 1:11:01
  Diddy and White will go to some bigger fights.
• 1:11:03
  Brit slop is always pointless. 90 % of British
• 1:11:06
  fights are pointless. That's why it's slop. That's
• 1:11:09
  why we're here. I don't know. I mean, Dave Allen
• 1:11:12
  should follow more the domestic. I think for
• 1:11:14
  Dave Allen, he should try and go off the - Diddy
• 1:11:16
  and White is domestic level. Has been for years.
• 1:11:19
  We don't know what level Diddy and White is.
• 1:11:22
  Before we continue with the Dillian White argument,
• 1:11:24
  that's a little bit more time than this man deserves.
• 1:11:26
  I'm going to be honest with you guys. We're going
• 1:11:28
  to keep it rolling here. Fabio Wardley versus
• 1:11:31
  Justice Hooney. Why does Justice Hooney knock
• 1:11:35
  Fabio Wardley out? Lynn, let's go ahead. Kick
• 1:11:38
  it off. What? What? What is this? Rage Brain
• 1:11:42
  used to be believable. But I've only got one
• 1:11:45
  thing to say for anyone who actually thinks Justice
• 1:11:47
  Hooney has a chance in this fight. Go watch the
• 1:11:50
  Kevin Lovainer fight and watch this guy in the
• 1:11:52
  10th round nearly get stopped by a fucking former
• 1:11:55
  cruiserweight with like a sub 15 % KO ratio and
• 1:11:58
  tell me he's taking the power of a guy whose
• 1:12:00
  entire career has been built off the fact that
• 1:12:02
  yes, he can't really box, but my fucking God,
• 1:12:05
  could he smash your skull in half? Which he almost
• 1:12:07
  did to Frasier Clark. More than one person. Put
• 1:12:11
  a dent in his fucking skull. That was gross.
• 1:12:13
  People actually want to act like you're Sassoon
• 1:12:15
  and he's got a check. No. Like, Huni, like, this
• 1:12:18
  could go similar to the first Clark fight, where
• 1:12:20
  Huni boxes him and does well. But, like, what
• 1:12:26
  has Eustace Huni shown since that Lorena fight?
• 1:12:29
  He's beat up a bunch of cans early, down under,
• 1:12:33
  which have done nothing for his development.
• 1:12:36
  Like, we saw in the Lorena fight, he's got a
• 1:12:38
  suspect gas tank. We saw his chin isn't that
• 1:12:40
  great. He hasn't got much power. So, it's like,
• 1:12:43
  what does this guy have? Or what can he do? It's
• 1:12:47
  going to make Fabio Wardley respect him. He will
• 1:12:48
  serve justice. That's all I got. I don't know.
• 1:12:54
  I mean, maybe this is just me being completely
• 1:12:56
  biased, but I just see no other way this ends
• 1:13:00
  than Fabio Wardley just getting to him and just
• 1:13:04
  that's it. It's done. Like, Huni will get caught
• 1:13:09
  with something huge and it's all over. Nah, he's
• 1:13:11
  done. Matchroom Heavyweight Boxing will be dead.
• 1:13:15
  We will all celebrate the death of Eddie Heard
• 1:13:17
  in boxing. We will all go home very happy. And
• 1:13:20
  I can now glaze up Fabio Warby because he beat
• 1:13:22
  C -10 Frostbite. Well, that's pretty much all
• 1:13:29
  you need to know about this fight. Probably more
• 1:13:33
  than you need to know about this fight. I like
• 1:13:34
  to prop up Justice Huni just because it bothers
• 1:13:37
  Lynn. That's really it. I don't give a shit.
• 1:13:42
  Moving on. Boxer. Same day. Like, pretty much
• 1:13:47
  the same time. Yes. There's a bunch of shit on
• 1:13:51
  this undercard that we're going to skip and go
• 1:13:53
  to Callum Smith and Ivan Zuko. I've been following
• 1:13:56
  Zuko for a minute. Callum Smith is a very different
• 1:13:59
  fighter. Callum Simpson. Excuse me. Thank you.
• 1:14:02
  Yes. Thank you for correcting me. Yeah, there
• 1:14:04
  is some stuff on this undercard. I'll briefly
• 1:14:06
  give a shout -out to Edwards versus Asombo. That
• 1:14:08
  could be a solid fight, but... Yeah, Simpson
• 1:14:11
  is fighting a guy called Zuko, who's Italian.
• 1:14:15
  Now, with Italians, there's like a 50 -50 chance.
• 1:14:19
  They're either like actually good, or they're
• 1:14:21
  literally incapable of throwing a punch. I haven't
• 1:14:25
  obviously seen tape of Zuko, because I have no
• 1:14:27
  idea who this guy is. He's alright. But he's,
• 1:14:30
  I mean, he's 21 -0. He's got 18 knockouts. He's
• 1:14:33
  a southpaw. So, I mean, there's, he has something,
• 1:14:38
  maybe. I don't know. The only name on his record
• 1:14:42
  I recognize is Jermaine Brown. And to anyone
• 1:14:45
  who's not British, that won't mean anything.
• 1:14:47
  But I mean, this is a guy who's like English
• 1:14:49
  level, maybe. It's like the only name on his
• 1:14:52
  CV I recognize. His last fight was in Switzerland,
• 1:14:56
  which doesn't bode well for my confidence in
• 1:14:59
  him going into this fight because I don't think
• 1:15:01
  Switzerland's ever produced a good boxer that
• 1:15:02
  I can recall. Well, I mean, he's a southpaw who's
• 1:15:08
  got an 85 % KO ratio. He might maybe not be completely
• 1:15:12
  awful. I don't know. He's 29. He's in the prime
• 1:15:14
  of his career. Callum Simpson, don't really have
• 1:15:18
  a lot to say because he's kind of been a boxer
• 1:15:19
  and I'm not as clued in with boxer cards because
• 1:15:22
  they're normally just not that interesting. He
• 1:15:25
  beat a domestic guy in Zach Cherry, who's whatever.
• 1:15:30
  Basically, every British fighter will beat a
• 1:15:31
  guy like Zack Cheney. Like, he's tough, he'll
• 1:15:33
  take you the distance, but he ain't gonna beat
• 1:15:35
  you. You're going into way more detail than anyone
• 1:15:38
  cares, Lin. I'm sorry. I... Look, I'd like to
• 1:15:42
  provide the context to this. Okay. This fight
• 1:15:46
  is also for the EBU, European Super Middleweight,
• 1:15:49
  which is, I believe, the main commission for
• 1:15:51
  the European fights. So there is an actual belt
• 1:15:54
  on the line here of some value to people. It's
• 1:15:56
  a... It's a... subordinate sanctioning body to
• 1:16:01
  wbc so like this yes these guys are gonna be
• 1:16:04
  in your like in your feed they're gonna be coming
• 1:16:07
  up yes uh sorry i just had a look at who last
• 1:16:10
  held this boat because it's vacant uh it was
• 1:16:12
  kevin lele saggio who is like that guy in france
• 1:16:15
  that has a high ranking and everyone wants to
• 1:16:17
  fight because he's probably very easy to beat
• 1:16:19
  i have never heard of this man i know he's high
• 1:16:23
  i'm pretty sure he I don't know if it might have
• 1:16:26
  been him. I'm pretty sure I saw a thing earlier
• 1:16:28
  that says he's going to fight Iglesias, or there
• 1:16:30
  was some rumor about that. Also don't know who
• 1:16:32
  that is. That's crazy. But anyway, since I'm
• 1:16:36
  not massively sold on, he'll probably get to
• 1:16:40
  European level. I don't ever see this guy being
• 1:16:41
  much of a threat at world level, but we'll see
• 1:16:44
  how he looks in this fight. I will probably be
• 1:16:46
  watching Fabio Worley at this time, though, so
• 1:16:48
  I'll have to catch this fight afterwards. Yeah.
• 1:16:52
  Okay, we got to move on because I am bored as
• 1:16:55
  fuck about the Brit slot. Top rank on the 7th.
• 1:17:01
  So this will be later in the evening if you're
• 1:17:03
  in the US. One from the bottom up, Keon Davis.
• 1:17:08
  That's one of DB3. So keep note of him. I want
• 1:17:12
  to skip over the co -main and go to Keyshawn
• 1:17:15
  Davis versus Edwin De Los Santos. I'm not too
• 1:17:18
  sold that this is going to be an exciting affair.
• 1:17:23
  I don't think so. I don't expect Edwin is going
• 1:17:27
  to come to bang the way he has previously. And
• 1:17:32
  Davis is actually pretty fucking good. Yeah,
• 1:17:38
  even if he wants to bang, I don't think De Los
• 1:17:40
  Santos is going to catch him. Davis is too slick.
• 1:17:45
  The only way they bang is if Davis decides to,
• 1:17:48
  and I don't see that happening. That would be
• 1:17:51
  a mistake. De Los Santos does have pretty heavy
• 1:17:54
  hands. It would be a mistake and out of character.
• 1:17:58
  Yes. I think chances are very low. This is going
• 1:18:02
  to be boring. That's why what interests me more
• 1:18:04
  is Abdullah Mason. Versus Jeremiah Nakatilla.
• 1:18:09
  That's just because you love Abdullah Mason.
• 1:18:12
  I do. I really, really do. I think Abdullah Mason
• 1:18:18
  is him. As I understand it, that's how the kids
• 1:18:24
  are saying it. He is him. Jeremiah Nakatilla
• 1:18:28
  is actually a pretty solid step up for where
• 1:18:31
  Abdullah Mason is. So this to me is... is the
• 1:18:35
  main event like i want to see how good mason
• 1:18:37
  does with a pretty solid opponent yeah and those
• 1:18:42
  african guys always come to win they try yeah
• 1:18:47
  well usually um because i can think of two exceptions
• 1:18:52
  lately but these the smaller guys especially
• 1:18:55
  they come to bang and they won't quit like you
• 1:18:59
  gotta get them out yeah I'm really curious to
• 1:19:03
  see how Abdullah Mason does. My glazing notwithstanding.
• 1:19:10
  I think Mason will get rounds this time. Because
• 1:19:14
  Abdullah Mason usually stops people pretty quick,
• 1:19:16
  doesn't he? He does. Within the first six, at
• 1:19:18
  least. Yeah, I think this guy will take them
• 1:19:21
  rounds. I disagree. I'm looking at the... I mean,
• 1:19:25
  I'm not, like, an American person, but I remember
• 1:19:28
  when this guy got announced, I had a... I had
• 1:19:30
  a quick look at his record. This dude got stopped
• 1:19:34
  inside two rounds by Moetelo and Mercado. So...
• 1:19:38
  Not sure how well that bodes for him going up
• 1:19:43
  against Mason, but we'll see. I've been wrong
• 1:19:47
  before. It'll happen again. But I... Who knows?
• 1:19:52
  Fair enough. I am also just being slightly stereotypical.
• 1:19:57
  I won't even call this one racist. Just stereotypical.
• 1:20:00
  Moving to June 8th. Matchroom. In us. I'm going
• 1:20:11
  to miss this one. Why is that? Because I'm going
• 1:20:15
  to be at the other one. So a couple moving up.
• 1:20:21
  Max McIntyre, that's a name I recognize as an
• 1:20:24
  Aussie prospect. Danny Keating. Tyler Blizzard.
• 1:20:31
  Just for the name. Him for the name. Tyler Blizzard
• 1:20:33
  versus Rocky Oden. We've been following Tyler
• 1:20:38
  Blizzard for his last, like, four fights just
• 1:20:40
  because of his name. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Well,
• 1:20:44
  also, his nickname, which I don't think I had
• 1:20:47
  noticed before, is The Wizard. Tyler the Wizard
• 1:20:50
  Blizzard. Yeah, try saying that one fast when
• 1:20:53
  you're drunk. Did you skip the very first one
• 1:20:58
  on purpose, Leo? Yes. Okay. Then Ben Mahoney
• 1:21:03
  versus Eddie Colmenares. It's a 154 fight. I
• 1:21:08
  think that's the co -main. And headlining Jai
• 1:21:13
  Opataya versus Claudio Squeo for the IBF Cruiserweight
• 1:21:18
  title. Who the fuck is Squeo? I don't know. I
• 1:21:22
  actually have lore on this, because I looked
• 1:21:24
  into this, because I'm crippled with autism.
• 1:21:27
  Let me just say now, all the Jai fans and all
• 1:21:31
  the Jai defenders are not going to like this.
• 1:21:33
  Skeo's getting stopped in about two rounds, and
• 1:21:35
  I genuinely don't know if he wins an English
• 1:21:36
  belt. Why this guy is in a world title fight,
• 1:21:39
  I have no idea. So, I had a quick look at his
• 1:21:42
  record. Firstly, all of his fights have been
• 1:21:44
  in early. The only normal belt he fought for,
• 1:21:48
  which is how he got a top 15 ranking, was the
• 1:21:50
  IBF European Cruiserweight belt against a guy
• 1:21:53
  called Nicholas Vassilin. I then was like, oh,
• 1:21:56
  who's this guy? So I had a look at his record.
• 1:21:59
  He'd had two fights in the last four and a half
• 1:22:02
  years. He was a domestic level fighter in Finland,
• 1:22:06
  of all places. And he was actually naturally
• 1:22:09
  a 167er stroke 175er. So he was basically a dude
• 1:22:14
  who had had, like, two fights in four years and
• 1:22:16
  was, like, basically, like, come, like, massively
• 1:22:19
  up in weight from where he fought at before.
• 1:22:21
  Why he's in a world title fight, I don't know.
• 1:22:24
  But it's a complete joke. It's a complete joke.
• 1:22:28
  Like, I don't know how anyone can look at this
• 1:22:31
  fight and say, oh, Jai of Ataya, you know, he's
• 1:22:33
  got power. When this is the level of opposition,
• 1:22:36
  he's going to be stopping. They're marking time.
• 1:22:40
  to get to bigger fights that's all it is to me
• 1:22:44
  that's what it is and you're telling me they
• 1:22:46
  couldn't have found like at least some half credible
• 1:22:49
  washed up guy who at least might take him at
• 1:22:51
  least four or five rounds before he then stops
• 1:22:53
  them rather than this dude who had no notable
• 1:22:56
  wins wasn't even known i don't even know is there
• 1:23:00
  any italians who listen to this because they
• 1:23:02
  can comment if this dude's even known in italy
• 1:23:04
  Are you familiar with the phrase, this was taught
• 1:23:08
  to me by Brits, and it's cheeky Nando's with
• 1:23:12
  the lads. Have you heard that before? I'm aware
• 1:23:15
  of that. Okay, so we adapted that, cheeky Nando's
• 1:23:19
  with Eddie Hearn and the IBF. The IBF loves their
• 1:23:24
  cheeky Nando's. They love their cheeky Nando's.
• 1:23:27
  But he wasn't a mandatory, I don't think, because
• 1:23:29
  he's ranked number 14 by the IBF. I'm pretty
• 1:23:31
  sure this is a voluntary. Yeah, but... Does it
• 1:23:35
  satisfy the mandatory defense criteria? Maybe.
• 1:23:41
  Probably. Probably. Like, IBF is fucking... It's
• 1:23:45
  the fucking IBF. They're questionable. But yeah,
• 1:23:48
  I don't know. This fight... Like, if this fight
• 1:23:52
  goes beyond three rounds, I'm sure. Like... It
• 1:23:56
  shouldn't. It genuinely might be over in about
• 1:23:59
  a minute and a half. I'm not even bullshitting
• 1:24:01
  here. But, Leo, introduce your favorite guy on
• 1:24:08
  the card. Or did you forget? Oh, Terra Moana.
• 1:24:15
  Yeah, that's the one when he says skip the first.
• 1:24:18
  Yeah. Terra Moana is like a super awesome heavyweight
• 1:24:22
  prospect right now. He's like just getting into
• 1:24:25
  the thing. So, like, don't look at Moses Atama
• 1:24:27
  and say, oh, yeah, he should fight Terra Moana.
• 1:24:29
  That's fucking ridiculous. Terra Moana is way
• 1:24:31
  too green for that. He is fighting another Indian
• 1:24:36
  guy. I wonder if this one's actually from India
• 1:24:40
  or if he's from Fiji. He is. No, he's Indian.
• 1:24:44
  He is from India. The last guy was an Indian
• 1:24:47
  from Fiji. So that's fun. Okay, it doesn't say
• 1:24:51
  where in India he's from, but it says he's from
• 1:24:54
  India. Tara Moana Jr. Watch him. If he opens
• 1:25:01
  a card, you can watch him and then fuck off for
• 1:25:05
  the rest of the day and then come back for Jayapataya.
• 1:25:08
  And Tyler Blizzard. Of course. Moving to the
• 1:25:17
  motherfucking Taiken card at the Ariake Arena.
• 1:25:22
  I gotta go print my ticket. I haven't done that
• 1:25:25
  yet. Because you're here for the... I'm going
• 1:25:29
  to skip that joke for the umpteenth time. But
• 1:25:33
  that is where these got mixed up. So that older
• 1:25:43
  guy that has just turned pro that I really like,
• 1:25:48
  Suboy, is on this card. Yeah. I like him. He's
• 1:25:52
  going to win by knockout probably. Probably pretty
• 1:25:56
  quick. I don't know who this Vietnamese guy he's
• 1:25:59
  fighting is. He's fighting a 33 -year -old Vietnamese
• 1:26:05
  guy who's 18 -1 with 10 knockouts. But I say
• 1:26:10
  Saboy puts him out in the first three rounds.
• 1:26:12
  Probably. Who else is on here that I should know?
• 1:26:17
  Tenshin Nasukawa. Yeah. Who was I talking to?
• 1:26:24
  I was telling somebody about it. It was with
• 1:26:28
  Alex and Josh on B -Sides. And I was saying,
• 1:26:31
  as much... Like, this guy is the ultimate fucking
• 1:26:37
  douchebag. He really is. I just hate his personality
• 1:26:41
  so much. But... Main character stuff. Americans
• 1:26:44
  would probably like him. He would fit in with
• 1:26:48
  the American style of self -promotion. Like,
• 1:26:52
  fucking Tank Davis style bullshit. I... The way
• 1:26:57
  that I always frame him is as the Japanese Lomachenko.
• 1:27:02
  No. No, more childish. More childish and self
• 1:27:07
  -centered. That is fair. Lomachenko pretends
• 1:27:13
  to be an adult. Well, he pretends to be humble
• 1:27:19
  with his words, but you can tell he's lying.
• 1:27:22
  Okay. Nasakawa doesn't... Doesn't do that. No.
• 1:27:28
  In terms of ability, that is also how I've recommended
• 1:27:33
  him. I don't know, man. If Maloney had power.
• 1:27:39
  If Maloney had power. Maloney rocked him. Yeah,
• 1:27:45
  fuck. But Maloney rocked him. He did. You're
• 1:27:49
  absolutely right. And Maloney has shit power.
• 1:27:52
  This is the little Maloney. No, it's the big
• 1:27:55
  Maloney. Is it? Well, whatever. They're the same.
• 1:27:59
  They both have shit power. They're the same,
• 1:28:01
  yeah, as far as power goes. They're both terrible.
• 1:28:04
  Victor Santillan, probably about the same level
• 1:28:08
  as the Maloney's. 14 and 1. He's not bad. It's
• 1:28:12
  fine. I would love to see him spark tension.
• 1:28:17
  Just fucking shut everybody up. Somebody teach
• 1:28:20
  him some humility. Please. Please. Put this fucking
• 1:28:24
  child on his ass. But that's the thing, he's
• 1:28:27
  not a child anymore. He's like 26. Yeah, he acts
• 1:28:31
  like he's 15, but... Acts like he's in an anime.
• 1:28:37
  Fucking embarrassing. Well, all I know is that
• 1:28:41
  he does all sorts of cool fucking tricks with
• 1:28:44
  his footwork and stuff, so... And he does flips
• 1:28:47
  in his pre -fight testing the ring warm -ups.
• 1:28:53
  That they don't show on TV. But enough of douchebag.
• 1:28:57
  Let's go to the main event. Junto Nakatani versus
• 1:29:00
  Ryosuke Nishida. WBC and IBF bantamweight champions,
• 1:29:05
  respectively. I am fucking excited for this.
• 1:29:09
  Like, really excited for this. Yeah, you should
• 1:29:12
  be. This is a fucking amazing, amazing fight.
• 1:29:15
  Like, this in itself, just by itself, is worth
• 1:29:18
  the price of admission. 100%. I am excited for
• 1:29:23
  this. Like, this is gonna be Nakatani's biggest
• 1:29:27
  test in for fucking ever. I think. Nobody likes
• 1:29:33
  Nishida except me. I don't know why. I think
• 1:29:36
  he's fine. I don't have any problems with him,
• 1:29:39
  but... No, but, like, everybody... See, everybody
• 1:29:44
  in Discord's like, oh, another fucking can that
• 1:29:46
  Junto's gonna knock out in the second round.
• 1:29:49
  He is not a can. Motherfuckers that don't know
• 1:29:51
  what they're talking about. He's also a southpaw,
• 1:29:55
  and I haven't seen Nakatani fight another southpaw.
• 1:29:59
  I just don't know if he's any good against them.
• 1:30:04
  It's people who are confidently incorrect. It's
• 1:30:08
  true. I do think Nakatani wins, but I think Nishida
• 1:30:13
  gains some fans. He wins the story of the night.
• 1:30:18
  I think it's going to go late, for sure. I wouldn't
• 1:30:24
  be surprised if Nishida survives, but I think
• 1:30:29
  if it is a Nakatani KO, it's in like the 9th
• 1:30:32
  or 10th. Watch him knock him out in the first
• 1:30:36
  two minutes. But I don't think so. I like Nishida.
• 1:30:43
  but yeah i'm super excited i got my ticket i
• 1:30:45
  this is one of those ones where they don't actually
• 1:30:48
  tell you where your seats are um and i keep forgetting
• 1:30:51
  no no no so they don't give you like a seating
• 1:30:55
  map when you buy seats here and i keep forgetting
• 1:30:58
  how expensive the seats are in which section
• 1:31:02
  because nishita is the one i accidentally ended
• 1:31:05
  up on the floor in osaka yeah So either the floor
• 1:31:10
  tickets were sold out by the time I bought my
• 1:31:12
  tickets or I'm on the floor again. And I really
• 1:31:15
  hope I'm not. I like being really close to the
• 1:31:17
  front of the raised seats. So wherever the fuck
• 1:31:21
  I am, I'm row 10 seat something. But I don't
• 1:31:25
  know if that's in the folding chairs on the floor
• 1:31:27
  or if I'm up in the stands. I really hope I'm
• 1:31:30
  up in the stands. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be
• 1:31:32
  on the floor either. I don't like the floor.
• 1:31:35
  Those are dumb fuck seats to buy. Every event
• 1:31:38
  I've been to. The people down there are no fun.
• 1:31:42
  Actually, even in the good stand seats, the people
• 1:31:45
  in Japan are no fun. People in Japan are no fun.
• 1:31:50
  Let's just keep reducing the sentence until it
• 1:31:53
  stops making sense. Japan is no fun. People are
• 1:32:00
  no fun. I will stand by people are no fun. But
• 1:32:03
  yeah, no, I think this is going to be a banger.
• 1:32:05
  I might be wrong, but I think this is going to
• 1:32:07
  be a banger. I have high expectations, too. I
• 1:32:10
  think, like I said, it's people who are confidently
• 1:32:13
  incorrect about Nishida. They don't know who
• 1:32:16
  he is, so they're assuming he's a can. Yeah,
• 1:32:19
  well, he's the one who fights with that small
• 1:32:22
  gym, so nobody ever saw him televised. Like,
• 1:32:25
  I had to fucking get a train to Osaka to see
• 1:32:29
  him defend his world title. Because it wasn't
• 1:32:33
  on TV. The fuck? Well, he wasn't supposed to
• 1:32:38
  win it in the first place. Yeah, well, that's
• 1:32:40
  true. So yeah, I'm super excited about this.
• 1:32:43
  I'll probably miss the Aussie card because I'll
• 1:32:45
  be on the train and the bus to Ariaka. I'll put
• 1:32:50
  misleading exclamations with your name tagged.
• 1:32:53
  Well, the last time I did this was when Munguia
• 1:32:56
  got sparked and I thought you guys were all fucking
• 1:32:58
  with me on the train. Opataya's gonna die now.
• 1:33:03
  You've set the precedent. Opataya getting knocked
• 1:33:07
  out by some random Italian would be pretty fun.
• 1:33:11
  Is he Italian? I would be incredibly happy. It
• 1:33:15
  would be funny. I can't deny that. Anything more
• 1:33:21
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  We are heading into quite a busy weekend. Is
• 1:34:52
  it a lot of star power? Not really. But it's
• 1:34:57
  a lot of boxing. And that's why you're fucking
• 1:34:59
  here. So, parting words. Well, the Oilers made
• 1:35:06
  the Stanley Cup final, so I guess I'm cheering
• 1:35:09
  for fucking Edmonton. Yay. I don't even know
• 1:35:14
  what their cheer is. They're not getting swept.
• 1:35:18
  They're getting swept all my life. Who are they
• 1:35:20
  playing? The Florida Panthers. I'm not at all
• 1:35:24
  biased. Oh, they are. They are playing. Yeah,
• 1:35:26
  I'm not at all biased when I say we're sweeping
• 1:35:29
  them. Not at all. Yeah, no. But I don't even
• 1:35:34
  want to cheer for fucking Edmonton. I hate Edmonton.
• 1:35:37
  Edmonton is the fucking asshole of hell. What's
• 1:35:42
  their actual city name is the Gateway to the
• 1:35:45
  North? Because that's the only thing they have
• 1:35:48
  is we were where the highway ended until recently.
• 1:35:54
  Alberta's just like two cities and the rest of
• 1:35:57
  it is just empty. I mean, that's every province
• 1:36:01
  in Canada, isn't it? No, not really. Name me
• 1:36:06
  a province with more than two big cities. I mean,
• 1:36:10
  like the East Coast has. some degree of population
• 1:36:13
  density i guess no no newfoundland has one city
• 1:36:17
  they don't even have two ontario is like not
• 1:36:20
  entirely desolate it's toronto and ottawa yeah
• 1:36:25
  you got like other towns and stuff towns none
• 1:36:28
  of it is just totally packed with people i actually
• 1:36:34
  i don't know Ontario would be the only one where
• 1:36:37
  you could say there's more than two cities, if
• 1:36:39
  you include fucking Thunder Bay and Sudbury.
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• 1:37:19
  Before Dark. Lynn, this is your first time. Say
• 1:37:21
  a nice goodbye to everybody. That doesn't take
• 1:37:24
  more than 10 seconds. Goodbye, everyone. And
• 1:37:27
  the only thing I'll end on, Huni's getting destroyed.
• 1:37:32
  All right. That's a good one. All right. Boxing
• 1:37:36
  Before Dark. We'll see you next time.