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Enneagram, Chakras & Grounding | Don’t Apologize for Where You Are (with Fran Bailey) · The Living Conversation

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  Foreign.
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  Anthony
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  Wright.
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  And
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  I
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  am
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  your
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  co
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  host
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  on
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  the
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  Living
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  Conversation
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  with
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  Adam
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  Dietz.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  the
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  conversation.
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  And
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  we
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  are
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  here
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  with
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  our
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  guest
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  friend
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  Bailey,
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  who
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  is
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  a
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  dancer
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  turned
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  healer.
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  And
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  we
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  were
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  talking
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  before
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  the
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  break.
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  About.
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  How
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  to
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  kind
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  of
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  come
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  back
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  to
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  ourselves
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  from
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  COVID
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  and
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  from
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  social
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  media.
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  And
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  I
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  really
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  appreciated
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  what
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  you
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  had
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  to
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  say,
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  Fran,
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  about
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  reconnecting
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  with
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  that
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  child
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  who
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  found
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  the
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  dance
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  in
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  the
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  barn.
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  And
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  her
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  wisdom
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  is
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  still
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  present
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  and
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  still
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  loving.
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  And
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  things
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  that
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  you
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  have
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  listed
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  in
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  your
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  points
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  of
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  study
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  is
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  the
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  Enneagram.
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  And
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  you
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  had
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  studied
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  with
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  Deborah
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  Uten.
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  And
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  talk
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  to
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  us
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  a
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  bit
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  about
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  how
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  the
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  Enneagram
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  has
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  been
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  useful
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  for
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  you.
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  And
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  isn't
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  the
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  Enneagram
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  also
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  originally
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  a
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  Sufi
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  construct
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  about
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  the
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  Enneagram,
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  please.
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  So
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  that's.
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  His
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  name
• 1:38
  is
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  Gurtif,
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  He's
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  Russian.
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  What
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  he
• 1:42
  did
• 1:42
  is
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  studied
• 1:43
  movement
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  all
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  over
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  the
• 1:44
  world,
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  all
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  these
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  ethnic
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  groups,
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  and
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  then
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  choreographed
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  one
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  piece.
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  And
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  it
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  was
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  like
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  a
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  Sufi.
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  So
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  the
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  unity
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  of
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  one,
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  that
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  we're
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  all
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  one.
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  There's
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  one
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  person
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  in
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  the
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  middle
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  of
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  this
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  circle
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  or
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  this
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  choreography.
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  And
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  everybody
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  else
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  is
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  doing
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  certain
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  movements
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  simultaneously.
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  But
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  this
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  one
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  is
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  spinning.
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  So
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  the
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  concept
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  and
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  the
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  idea
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  is
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  that
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  we
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  are
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  one.
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  We're
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  either
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  mind,
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  heart,
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  mind
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  body
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  types
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  and
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  that
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  we
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  all
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  share
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  all
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  three
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  of
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  those.
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  And
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  it
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  has
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  gone
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  through
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  many,
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  you
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  know,
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  hands
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  of
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  change.
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  And
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  it's
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  now
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  more
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  of
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  a
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  psychological
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  concept
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  where
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  you
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  either
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  are
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  mind
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  the
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  three
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  in
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  each
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  one.
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  So
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  you've
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  got
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  the
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  body,
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  eight,
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  nine,
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  one.
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  It's
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  a
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  circle.
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  And
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  then
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  you've
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  got
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  the
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  heart,
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  which
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  is
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  2,
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  3,
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  4.
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  And
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  then
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  the
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  head
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  is
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  5,
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  6
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  and
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  7.
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  And
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  you're
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  talking
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  about
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  Enneagram
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  categories.
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  Yes,
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  categories.
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  Which
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  is.
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  It's
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  in
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  a
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  circle
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  and
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  they're
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  all
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  diagrammed
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  facing
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  each
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  or
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  connected
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  to
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  each
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  other.
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  But
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  we
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  tend
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  to
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  move
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  into.
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  We
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  navigate
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  through
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  one.
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  So
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  I'm
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  a
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  heart.
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  So
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  I
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  navigate
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  through
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  my
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  heart
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  more
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  than
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  my
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  head
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  or
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  my
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  body.
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  So
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  the
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  idea
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  is
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  that
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  it's
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  a
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  study.
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  Some
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  people
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  get
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  really
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  addicted
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  to
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  it,
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  but
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  it's
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  a
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  study.
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  And
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  I
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  did
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  that
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  actually
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  for
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  myself
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  so
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  that
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  I
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  could
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  be
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  a
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  better
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  healer.
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  Right.
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  And
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  know
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  the
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  cues.
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  And
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  then
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  two.
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  It
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  helped
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  me
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  understand
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  the
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  human
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  condition
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  that
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  how.
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  How
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  we
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  navigate.
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  So
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  how
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  we
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  navigate
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  what
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  we
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  see
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  is
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  part
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  of
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  how
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  we
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  process.
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  So
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  the.
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  The
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  process
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  is
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  of
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  interest
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  to
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  me
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  because
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  that
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  tells
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  me
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  sort
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  of
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  the
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  story
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  of
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  your
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  body,
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  everything.
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  And
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  so
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  my
• 3:42
  questions
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  would
• 3:42
  be,
• 3:43
  tend
• 3:44
  to
• 3:44
  work
• 3:44
  in
• 3:45
  that
• 3:45
  understanding
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  what
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  type
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  they
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  are.
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  Or
• 3:49
  where
• 3:50
  they
• 3:50
  tend
• 3:50
  to
• 3:50
  reside.
• 3:50
  I
• 3:51
  would
• 3:51
  imagine.
• 3:51
  Yeah.
• 3:51
  Where
• 3:51
  they
• 3:52
  tend
• 3:52
  to
• 3:52
  reside.
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  Right.
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  Like
• 3:54
  the
• 3:54
  example,
• 3:55
  like
• 3:55
  said
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  about
• 3:55
  the
• 3:55
  head
• 3:56
  type,
• 3:56
  you
• 3:56
  don't
• 3:56
  ask
• 3:57
  them
• 3:57
  what
• 3:57
  they
• 3:57
  feel.
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  Right,
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  right.
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  And
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  then
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  it
• 4:01
  comes
• 4:01
  to
• 4:01
  me
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  to
• 4:02
  also
• 4:02
  ask.
• 4:02
  You've
• 4:02
  done
• 4:03
  quite
• 4:03
  a
• 4:03
  bit
• 4:03
  of
• 4:03
  study
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  with
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  the
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  chakra
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  system
• 4:07
  of
• 4:08
  the
• 4:08
  Vedic
• 4:08
  chakra
• 4:09
  system.
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  How
• 4:09
  does
• 4:10
  that
• 4:10
  work
• 4:10
  together
• 4:10
  with
• 4:11
  the
• 4:11
  Enneagram?
• 4:12
  Please.
• 4:18
  Good
• 4:18
  question.
• 4:19
  These
• 4:19
  are
• 4:19
  a
• 4:19
  set
• 4:20
  of
• 4:20
  tools.
• 4:21
  Yeah,
• 4:21
  they're
• 4:21
  a
• 4:21
  set
• 4:21
  of
• 4:21
  tools.
• 4:22
  So
• 4:22
  find
• 4:23
  utility
• 4:23
  through
• 4:24
  that.
• 4:24
  Right.
• 4:25
  So
• 4:27
  if.
• 4:28
  Let's
• 4:28
  just
• 4:28
  take
• 4:29
  the
• 4:29
  head
• 4:29
  type
• 4:29
  again.
• 4:31
  So
• 4:32
  of
• 4:32
  course
• 4:32
  you're.
• 4:33
  You're
• 4:33
  up
• 4:33
  in
• 4:33
  the.
• 4:33
  The
• 4:34
  intellectual
• 4:35
  six
• 4:35
  chakra,
• 4:36
  right?
• 4:36
  You're.
• 4:37
  You're
• 4:37
  in
• 4:37
  the.
• 4:38
  The
• 4:38
  pattern
• 4:38
  of
• 4:39
  thought.
• 4:39
  So
• 4:40
  a
• 4:40
  six
• 4:41
  will
• 4:43
  either
• 4:43
  go
• 4:43
  towards
• 4:44
  fear
• 4:44
  or
• 4:44
  away
• 4:45
  from
• 4:45
  fear.
• 4:46
  Either
• 4:46
  going
• 4:46
  to
• 4:47
  have
• 4:47
  anxiety
• 4:47
  towards
• 4:48
  something
• 4:48
  or
• 4:48
  they're
• 4:49
  going
• 4:49
  to,
• 4:49
  you
• 4:49
  know,
• 4:49
  that
• 4:49
  kind
• 4:50
  of
• 4:51
  analogy.
• 4:52
  Or
• 4:52
  they.
• 4:52
  And
• 4:52
  they
• 4:53
  ask
• 4:53
  thousands
• 4:54
  of
• 4:54
  questions
• 4:54
  all
• 4:54
  the
• 4:54
  time.
• 4:56
  So
• 4:56
  with
• 4:57
  the
• 4:57
  head
• 4:58
  type,
• 5:00
  I
• 5:00
  will
• 5:01
  make
• 5:01
  more
• 5:01
  emphasis
• 5:02
  on
• 5:02
  clearing
• 5:02
  the
• 5:03
  head
• 5:04
  of
• 5:04
  thought
• 5:06
  attachments
• 5:07
  to
• 5:07
  thought,
• 5:09
  ideas,
• 5:11
  anxiety
• 5:11
  or
• 5:12
  patterns
• 5:12
  of
• 5:12
  thought
• 5:14
  so
• 5:14
  that
• 5:14
  they
• 5:14
  start
• 5:15
  extrapolating
• 5:16
  the
• 5:17
  idea
• 5:17
  and
• 5:18
  the
• 5:18
  energy
• 5:18
  around
• 5:19
  their
• 5:19
  head.
• 5:20
  And
• 5:20
  they,
• 5:21
  and
• 5:21
  I
• 5:21
  say
• 5:21
  move
• 5:21
  it
• 5:22
  past
• 5:22
  the
• 5:22
  edge
• 5:22
  of
• 5:22
  your
• 5:22
  aura.
• 5:25
  That
• 5:25
  way
• 5:25
  the
• 5:26
  brain
• 5:26
  isn't
• 5:27
  going
• 5:27
  a
• 5:28
  thousand
• 5:28
  minutes.
• 5:30
  So
• 5:30
  that
• 5:30
  way
• 5:30
  I
• 5:30
  can
• 5:31
  look.
• 5:31
  I
• 5:31
  say,
• 5:31
  now
• 5:31
  you
• 5:31
  come
• 5:32
  down
• 5:32
  through
• 5:32
  the
• 5:32
  chakra
• 5:33
  system
• 5:33
  to
• 5:33
  your
• 5:34
  first
• 5:34
  chakra
• 5:35
  and
• 5:35
  ground
• 5:36
  to
• 5:36
  the
• 5:37
  center
• 5:37
  of
• 5:37
  the
• 5:37
  earth.
• 5:39
  So
• 5:39
  they
• 5:39
  start
• 5:39
  beginning
• 5:40
  to
• 5:40
  get
• 5:40
  into
• 5:40
  their
• 5:40
  body
• 5:41
  rather
• 5:42
  than
• 5:42
  being
• 5:42
  out
• 5:43
  of
• 5:43
  their
• 5:43
  body
• 5:43
  and
• 5:44
  looking
• 5:44
  this
• 5:45
  way.
• 5:45
  Yeah,
• 5:46
  that
• 5:46
  was
• 5:46
  a
• 5:46
  real
• 5:46
  important
• 5:47
  component
• 5:47
  for
• 5:48
  me.
• 5:49
  I
• 5:49
  was
• 5:49
  taught
• 5:49
  a
• 5:50
  number
• 5:50
  of
• 5:50
  years
• 5:50
  ago
• 5:51
  about
• 5:52
  doing
• 5:52
  a
• 5:52
  grounding
• 5:52
  core
• 5:53
  to
• 5:53
  the
• 5:53
  center
• 5:53
  of
• 5:53
  the
• 5:53
  earth,
• 5:54
  and
• 5:54
  I
• 5:54
  do
• 5:54
  that
• 5:54
  with
• 5:54
  my
• 5:55
  students,
• 5:55
  and
• 5:56
  that's
• 5:56
  tremendously
• 5:56
  useful.
• 5:57
  But
• 5:57
  I'm
• 5:57
  getting
• 5:57
  a
• 5:57
  sense
• 5:58
  that
• 5:59
  with
• 5:59
  your
• 6:01
  developed
• 6:02
  intuitive
• 6:03
  and
• 6:04
  visualization
• 6:05
  capacity,
• 6:06
  you're
• 6:06
  able
• 6:06
  to
• 6:07
  watch
• 6:07
  people
• 6:07
  in
• 6:07
  process
• 6:08
  and
• 6:09
  guide
• 6:09
  them
• 6:09
  from
• 6:10
  there.
• 6:10
  Is
• 6:10
  that
• 6:10
  right?
• 6:13
  Yeah,
• 6:13
  it's
• 6:13
  pretty
• 6:14
  wild.
• 6:15
  Are
• 6:16
  you
• 6:16
  watching
• 6:16
  us
• 6:16
  right
• 6:16
  now?
• 6:17
  Yeah,
• 6:19
  well,
• 6:20
  in.
• 6:20
  In
• 6:21
  natural
• 6:21
  conversation,
• 6:22
  I
• 6:22
  think.
• 6:23
  But
• 6:23
  yeah,
• 6:24
  with
• 6:24
  your
• 6:24
  clients.
• 6:25
  I
• 6:25
  think
• 6:25
  this
• 6:25
  must
• 6:25
  be
• 6:26
  quite
• 6:26
  useful
• 6:27
  in
• 6:27
  guiding
• 6:29
  people
• 6:29
  across
• 6:30
  their
• 6:32
  developing
• 6:32
  energy
• 6:32
  field
• 6:33
  in
• 6:33
  a
• 6:34
  way
• 6:34
  that
• 6:35
  is
• 6:36
  not
• 6:37
  necessarily
• 6:37
  addressed
• 6:38
  by
• 6:38
  Western
• 6:38
  medicine.
• 6:42
  So
• 6:42
  if
• 6:42
  you
• 6:43
  can
• 6:43
  think
• 6:43
  of
• 6:43
  that
• 6:44
  concept
• 6:44
  of
• 6:45
  like,
• 6:46
  for
• 6:46
  instance,
• 6:46
  if
• 6:46
  I'm
• 6:47
  teaching
• 6:48
  with
• 6:48
  a
• 6:49
  group
• 6:49
  of
• 6:49
  people,
• 6:50
  maybe
• 6:50
  there's
• 6:51
  six
• 6:51
  people
• 6:51
  there
• 6:51
  and
• 6:51
  I'll
• 6:52
  pinpoint
• 6:53
  one
• 6:53
  person.
• 6:53
  I'll
• 6:53
  say,
• 6:54
  just
• 6:54
  watch
• 6:55
  this
• 6:55
  energy.
• 6:55
  Watch
• 6:56
  where
• 6:56
  it's
• 6:56
  going.
• 6:58
  You
• 6:58
  know,
• 6:58
  the
• 6:59
  attachment
• 6:59
  is
• 6:59
  here,
• 6:59
  or
• 7:00
  stay
• 7:00
  grounded
• 7:01
  and
• 7:01
  in
• 7:01
  your
• 7:02
  body,
• 7:02
  feel
• 7:02
  your
• 7:03
  sit
• 7:03
  bones.
• 7:04
  And
• 7:04
  so
• 7:04
  in
• 7:04
  the
• 7:05
  group
• 7:06
  that
• 7:06
  everybody
• 7:06
  starts
• 7:07
  doing
• 7:07
  the
• 7:07
  same
• 7:07
  thing.
• 7:09
  And
• 7:09
  I'm
• 7:09
  noticing
• 7:10
  that
• 7:10
  you
• 7:10
  are
• 7:11
  presupposing
• 7:12
  that
• 7:12
  people
• 7:12
  will
• 7:13
  be
• 7:13
  able
• 7:13
  to
• 7:13
  see
• 7:13
  it,
• 7:13
  whether
• 7:14
  they
• 7:14
  believe
• 7:14
  it
• 7:14
  or
• 7:14
  not.
• 7:15
  And
• 7:15
  they
• 7:15
  start
• 7:15
  to.
• 7:17
  That's
• 7:18
  quite
• 7:18
  powerful.
• 7:19
  Yeah,
• 7:20
  it's
• 7:20
  pretty.
• 7:20
  So
• 7:21
  continue
• 7:21
  please.
• 7:23
  So.
• 7:29
  When
• 7:29
  there's
• 7:29
  a
• 7:29
  group
• 7:30
  energy
• 7:30
  or
• 7:31
  when
• 7:31
  you
• 7:31
  expose
• 7:33
  something
• 7:34
  with
• 7:34
  that
• 7:34
  person,
• 7:36
  everybody
• 7:36
  will
• 7:36
  get
• 7:37
  the
• 7:37
  cue
• 7:38
  to
• 7:39
  do
• 7:39
  the
• 7:39
  same
• 7:39
  thing,
• 7:40
  right?
• 7:40
  To,
• 7:41
  to
• 7:41
  ground
• 7:41
  themselves.
• 7:42
  Then
• 7:42
  that's
• 7:43
  a
• 7:43
  collective
• 7:43
  energy
• 7:46
  in
• 7:46
  the
• 7:46
  room.
• 7:47
  Then
• 7:48
  I
• 7:48
  will
• 7:48
  channel
• 7:49
  then
• 7:49
  the
• 7:49
  next,
• 7:53
  how
• 7:53
  do
• 7:53
  I
• 7:53
  say,
• 7:53
  the
• 7:54
  next
• 7:55
  phase
• 7:56
  of
• 7:56
  that
• 7:56
  hour
• 7:58
  that
• 7:58
  will
• 7:59
  bring
• 7:59
  in
• 7:59
  the
• 8:00
  energy
• 8:00
  that
• 8:00
  they
• 8:00
  all
• 8:01
  need.
• 8:02
  Oh
• 8:03
  sure.
• 8:04
  So
• 8:05
  then
• 8:05
  it
• 8:05
  becomes
• 8:06
  an
• 8:06
  expansion
• 8:07
  and
• 8:07
  expansion
• 8:08
  and
• 8:08
  expansion.
• 8:09
  But
• 8:09
  they're
• 8:09
  not
• 8:09
  out
• 8:09
  of
• 8:10
  body,
• 8:10
  they're
• 8:10
  in
• 8:10
  body
• 8:11
  with
• 8:12
  the
• 8:12
  grounding.
• 8:13
  With
• 8:14
  the
• 8:14
  grounding,
• 8:17
  the
• 8:17
  lessons
• 8:17
  come,
• 8:18
  you
• 8:18
  know,
• 8:18
  then
• 8:18
  they
• 8:19
  get
• 8:19
  information
• 8:19
  for
• 8:20
  themselves
• 8:20
  individually
• 8:21
  without
• 8:21
  attaching
• 8:22
  to
• 8:22
  anybody
• 8:22
  else,
• 8:23
  even
• 8:23
  though
• 8:23
  the.
• 8:24
  So
• 8:24
  the
• 8:24
  group
• 8:24
  energy
• 8:25
  sets
• 8:25
  the
• 8:25
  tone
• 8:27
  for
• 8:27
  them
• 8:27
  to
• 8:29
  leave
• 8:29
  or
• 8:30
  see
• 8:30
  and
• 8:31
  then
• 8:31
  bring
• 8:31
  it
• 8:31
  in.
• 8:33
  See,
• 8:33
  feel
• 8:33
  here.
• 8:33
  No,
• 8:34
  that
• 8:35
  makes
• 8:35
  sense.
• 8:35
  It
• 8:36
  does.
• 8:36
  And
• 8:36
  I'm
• 8:37
  just
• 8:37
  getting
• 8:37
  a
• 8:37
  sense
• 8:38
  that
• 8:38
  in
• 8:39
  part
• 8:39
  of
• 8:39
  what
• 8:40
  you
• 8:40
  do
• 8:41
  as
• 8:41
  a
• 8:41
  facilitator
• 8:42
  is
• 8:43
  you
• 8:43
  hold
• 8:43
  a
• 8:44
  container
• 8:45
  and
• 8:46
  you
• 8:46
  structure
• 8:46
  the
• 8:47
  container
• 8:47
  with
• 8:47
  the
• 8:47
  presuppositions,
• 8:49
  but
• 8:49
  you
• 8:49
  stay
• 8:50
  the
• 8:50
  heck
• 8:50
  out
• 8:50
  of
• 8:50
  the
• 8:50
  way
• 8:52
  because
• 8:52
  that's,
• 8:52
  you
• 8:53
  know,
• 8:55
  more
• 8:56
  impactful
• 8:57
  than
• 8:57
  trying
• 8:58
  to
• 8:58
  think
• 8:58
  to
• 8:59
  impose
• 8:59
  on
• 9:00
  someone
• 9:00
  else
• 9:00
  what
• 9:00
  you
• 9:01
  think
• 9:01
  they
• 9:01
  ought
• 9:01
  to
• 9:01
  be
• 9:01
  doing.
• 9:04
  You
• 9:04
  have
• 9:04
  any
• 9:04
  thoughts?
• 9:05
  Yeah,
• 9:05
  I
• 9:05
  feel
• 9:06
  like
• 9:06
  that's
• 9:06
  really
• 9:06
  profound.
• 9:07
  And
• 9:07
  two
• 9:07
  things
• 9:07
  come
• 9:07
  to
• 9:08
  mind.
• 9:08
  One
• 9:08
  is
• 9:09
  that
• 9:10
  for
• 9:10
  people
• 9:10
  who
• 9:10
  are
• 9:11
  stuck
• 9:11
  on
• 9:11
  the
• 9:11
  woo
• 9:11
  woo
• 9:12
  factor
• 9:12
  still,
• 9:13
  like
• 9:14
  we.
• 9:15
  Whether
• 9:15
  you're
• 9:15
  just
• 9:15
  in
• 9:16
  your
• 9:16
  own
• 9:16
  mind
• 9:16
  or
• 9:16
  you're
• 9:17
  in
• 9:17
  your
• 9:17
  feelings,
• 9:18
  you
• 9:18
  feel
• 9:19
  stuff
• 9:19
  like
• 9:19
  you're
• 9:20
  gonna
• 9:20
  be
• 9:20
  happy
• 9:21
  or
• 9:21
  angry
• 9:21
  or
• 9:21
  sad.
• 9:22
  That's
• 9:22
  life.
• 9:22
  You
• 9:22
  can't
• 9:23
  just
• 9:23
  get
• 9:23
  past
• 9:23
  that.
• 9:24
  And
• 9:24
  I
• 9:24
  think
• 9:24
  anyone
• 9:25
  who's
• 9:25
  in
• 9:25
  the,
• 9:26
  you
• 9:26
  know,
• 9:26
  who's,
• 9:26
  who's
• 9:27
  keeping
• 9:27
  this
• 9:27
  at
• 9:27
  arm's
• 9:28
  length,
• 9:29
  you
• 9:29
  know,
• 9:29
  and
• 9:29
  who's,
• 9:30
  who's
• 9:30
  being
• 9:30
  turned
• 9:31
  off
• 9:31
  by
• 9:31
  how
• 9:31
  we're
• 9:31
  talking
• 9:31
  about
• 9:32
  energy,
• 9:32
  your
• 9:32
  body,
• 9:33
  your
• 9:33
  chakras
• 9:33
  and
• 9:34
  stuff
• 9:34
  like
• 9:34
  that,
• 9:34
  just
• 9:34
  needs
• 9:34
  to
• 9:34
  realize
• 9:35
  you
• 9:35
  are
• 9:36
  a
• 9:36
  human
• 9:36
  being,
• 9:36
  you
• 9:37
  exist.
• 9:37
  You're
• 9:37
  going
• 9:37
  to
• 9:37
  be
• 9:38
  feeling
• 9:38
  certain
• 9:38
  things
• 9:38
  all
• 9:39
  the
• 9:39
  time.
• 9:39
  That's
• 9:39
  life.
• 9:40
  You
• 9:40
  can't
• 9:40
  get
• 9:40
  past
• 9:41
  that.
• 9:41
  You
• 9:41
  have
• 9:42
  to
• 9:42
  be
• 9:42
  able
• 9:42
  to
• 9:42
  break
• 9:42
  through
• 9:43
  those
• 9:43
  patterns.
• 9:43
  That's
• 9:44
  how
• 9:44
  you
• 9:44
  enhance
• 9:44
  your
• 9:45
  life.
• 9:45
  That's
• 9:45
  how
• 9:45
  you
• 9:45
  live
• 9:45
  a
• 9:46
  good
• 9:46
  life.
• 9:46
  So
• 9:47
  I'd
• 9:47
  like
• 9:48
  to
• 9:48
  open
• 9:48
  the
• 9:48
  door
• 9:48
  for
• 9:49
  everyone
• 9:49
  who
• 9:49
  might
• 9:49
  be
• 9:49
  a
• 9:50
  little
• 9:50
  hesitant
• 9:51
  on
• 9:51
  that
• 9:51
  to
• 9:51
  just
• 9:51
  realize
• 9:52
  that
• 9:53
  life
• 9:53
  is
• 9:54
  ups
• 9:54
  and
• 9:54
  downs,
• 9:55
  life
• 9:55
  is
• 9:55
  energies.
• 9:56
  We
• 9:56
  do
• 9:56
  need
• 9:56
  to
• 9:57
  work
• 9:57
  through
• 9:57
  those.
• 9:57
  That's,
• 9:58
  that's
• 9:58
  why
• 9:58
  we're
• 9:58
  here
• 9:59
  in
• 9:59
  a
• 9:59
  lot
• 9:59
  of
• 9:59
  ways.
• 9:59
  Right?
• 10:00
  That's,
• 10:00
  that's
• 10:01
  the
• 10:01
  one
• 10:01
  thing
• 10:01
  that
• 10:01
  comes
• 10:01
  to
• 10:01
  mind.
• 10:02
  But
• 10:02
  the
• 10:02
  Other
• 10:02
  is
• 10:02
  that
• 10:04
  when
• 10:04
  you
• 10:04
  were
• 10:04
  talking
• 10:04
  about
• 10:04
  the
• 10:04
  collective,
• 10:05
  that
• 10:05
  was
• 10:06
  so
• 10:06
  interesting
• 10:06
  to
• 10:06
  me
• 10:07
  because.
• 10:09
  I
• 10:09
  can.
• 10:09
  Go
• 10:10
  many
• 10:10
  different
• 10:10
  directions
• 10:10
  with
• 10:11
  it.
• 10:11
  But
• 10:11
  the
• 10:11
  main
• 10:11
  thing
• 10:11
  I
• 10:12
  want
• 10:12
  to
• 10:12
  think
• 10:12
  about
• 10:12
  is
• 10:13
  talking
• 10:13
  about
• 10:13
  the
• 10:13
  zeitgeist,
• 10:14
  talking
• 10:15
  about
• 10:15
  the
• 10:15
  collective
• 10:16
  consciousness
• 10:16
  of
• 10:16
  the
• 10:17
  world.
• 10:18
  Anthony,
• 10:18
  before
• 10:19
  brought
• 10:19
  into
• 10:19
  this
• 10:20
  show
• 10:20
  that
• 10:21
  there's
• 10:21
  a
• 10:21
  lot
• 10:21
  of
• 10:21
  crap
• 10:22
  in
• 10:22
  the
• 10:22
  world
• 10:22
  right
• 10:22
  now
• 10:23
  and
• 10:23
  we
• 10:23
  need
• 10:23
  to
• 10:23
  be
• 10:23
  wastewater
• 10:24
  management
• 10:24
  people
• 10:25
  helping
• 10:25
  sift
• 10:26
  through
• 10:26
  the
• 10:26
  crap
• 10:26
  and
• 10:27
  helping
• 10:27
  purify.
• 10:28
  I
• 10:28
  would
• 10:28
  wonder
• 10:29
  if
• 10:29
  you
• 10:29
  could
• 10:30
  say
• 10:30
  something
• 10:30
  to
• 10:30
  that
• 10:30
  as
• 10:31
  far
• 10:31
  as
• 10:31
  the
• 10:31
  overall
• 10:31
  zeitgeist.
• 10:33
  And
• 10:33
  the
• 10:33
  last
• 10:33
  thing
• 10:33
  I
• 10:34
  just
• 10:34
  would
• 10:34
  want
• 10:34
  to
• 10:34
  point
• 10:34
  out
• 10:34
  to
• 10:35
  that
• 10:35
  is
• 10:35
  is
• 10:35
  we
• 10:36
  come
• 10:36
  from
• 10:36
  a
• 10:36
  lineage
• 10:36
  where
• 10:37
  we
• 10:37
  learn
• 10:38
  from.
• 10:39
  Our
• 10:40
  school
• 10:40
  was
• 10:40
  founded
• 10:41
  by
• 10:41
  a
• 10:41
  student
• 10:42
  of
• 10:42
  Sri
• 10:42
  Aurobindo
• 10:43
  who
• 10:43
  taught
• 10:44
  integral
• 10:44
  yoga.
• 10:45
  And
• 10:45
  his
• 10:46
  student
• 10:46
  who
• 10:46
  founded
• 10:47
  our
• 10:47
  grad
• 10:47
  school
• 10:48
  was
• 10:48
  named
• 10:48
  Haridas
• 10:49
  Chowdhury
• 10:49
  who
• 10:49
  taught
• 10:49
  integral
• 10:50
  philosophy.
• 10:51
  But
• 10:51
  the
• 10:51
  integral
• 10:52
  yoga
• 10:52
  element
• 10:52
  felt
• 10:53
  like,
• 10:53
  as
• 10:53
  we're
• 10:53
  talking
• 10:54
  here,
• 10:54
  it
• 10:54
  feels
• 10:54
  like
• 10:54
  Sri
• 10:55
  Aurobindo
• 10:55
  type
• 10:56
  of
• 10:56
  vibes
• 10:56
  where
• 10:56
  he
• 10:57
  was
• 10:57
  trying
• 10:57
  to
• 10:58
  use
• 10:58
  yoga
• 10:58
  to
• 10:59
  help
• 10:59
  heal
• 10:59
  the
• 10:59
  world.
• 11:00
  And
• 11:01
  when
• 11:01
  we're
• 11:01
  talking
• 11:01
  about
• 11:01
  zeitgeist
• 11:02
  and
• 11:02
  talking
• 11:02
  about
• 11:02
  your
• 11:03
  process,
• 11:03
  could
• 11:04
  you
• 11:04
  just
• 11:04
  say
• 11:04
  something
• 11:04
  about
• 11:05
  how.
• 11:06
  I'm
• 11:06
  sorry
• 11:06
  to
• 11:06
  do
• 11:06
  so
• 11:07
  long
• 11:07
  winded.
• 11:08
  I
• 11:08
  hate
• 11:08
  when,
• 11:08
  I
• 11:09
  hate,
• 11:09
  I
• 11:09
  hate
• 11:09
  when
• 11:09
  interviewers,
• 11:10
  when
• 11:10
  interviews,
• 11:11
  interviewers
• 11:11
  take
• 11:12
  over
• 11:12
  the
• 11:12
  interview.
• 11:13
  But
• 11:13
  I
• 11:14
  would
• 11:14
  like,
• 11:14
  I
• 11:14
  would
• 11:14
  hope
• 11:15
  if
• 11:15
  you
• 11:15
  could
• 11:15
  say
• 11:15
  something
• 11:15
  about
• 11:16
  how,
• 11:18
  how
• 11:18
  your
• 11:19
  process,
• 11:20
  how
• 11:20
  you
• 11:20
  can
• 11:20
  imagine
• 11:21
  your
• 11:21
  process
• 11:21
  as
• 11:22
  healing
• 11:22
  the
• 11:22
  overall
• 11:22
  zeitgeist,
• 11:23
  maybe,
• 11:27
  or
• 11:28
  how
• 11:28
  we
• 11:28
  could
• 11:28
  take
• 11:28
  that,
• 11:28
  take
• 11:29
  that,
• 11:29
  take
• 11:29
  your
• 11:29
  process
• 11:30
  and
• 11:30
  kind
• 11:30
  of
• 11:30
  imagine
• 11:31
  how
• 11:31
  it
• 11:31
  could
• 11:32
  help
• 11:33
  in
• 11:33
  a
• 11:33
  larger
• 11:34
  scale.
• 11:36
  Well,
• 11:36
  I
• 11:36
  think
• 11:37
  that.
• 11:41
  Having
• 11:42
  faith
• 11:43
  in
• 11:44
  those
• 11:44
  that
• 11:45
  are
• 11:45
  on
• 11:46
  their
• 11:46
  path
• 11:46
  to
• 11:47
  some
• 11:47
  sort
• 11:47
  of
• 11:47
  consciousness.
• 11:49
  So
• 11:49
  in
• 11:50
  my
• 11:50
  knowing,
• 11:55
  I
• 11:55
  know
• 11:55
  that
• 11:55
  there
• 11:56
  are
• 11:57
  many
• 11:57
  that
• 11:57
  are
• 11:58
  trying
• 11:58
  to
• 11:58
  get
• 11:58
  on
• 11:58
  a
• 11:58
  path.
• 12:00
  I
• 12:00
  know
• 12:01
  that.
• 12:01
  I
• 12:02
  can
• 12:02
  feel
• 12:02
  it.
• 12:05
  So
• 12:05
  the
• 12:06
  level
• 12:06
  of
• 12:06
  encouragement
• 12:08
  without
• 12:09
  apology,
• 12:11
  that's
• 12:11
  huge.
• 12:13
  See
• 12:13
  that
• 12:13
  again,
• 12:14
  please,
• 12:14
  and
• 12:14
  explain
• 12:15
  that
• 12:15
  a
• 12:15
  bit
• 12:15
  more.
• 12:16
  So
• 12:16
  I
• 12:16
  think
• 12:17
  people
• 12:19
  in
• 12:19
  their
• 12:19
  self
• 12:20
  talk
• 12:20
  are
• 12:21
  apologizing
• 12:22
  for
• 12:22
  where
• 12:22
  they
• 12:23
  are
• 12:23
  in
• 12:23
  their
• 12:23
  life.
• 12:24
  Okay.
• 12:26
  So
• 12:26
  I
• 12:26
  think
• 12:27
  that
• 12:27
  is
• 12:27
  the,
• 12:27
  the
• 12:27
  root
• 12:28
  cause
• 12:29
  of
• 12:29
  disconnect.
• 12:31
  And
• 12:31
  you're
• 12:32
  able
• 12:32
  to
• 12:32
  see
• 12:32
  that
• 12:32
  in
• 12:32
  the
• 12:32
  chakra
• 12:33
  system,
• 12:33
  I
• 12:33
  would
• 12:33
  imagine.
• 12:36
  Immediately.
• 12:37
  We
• 12:37
  have
• 12:38
  to
• 12:38
  take
• 12:38
  a
• 12:38
  short
• 12:38
  break.
• 12:38
  I'm
• 12:39
  Anthony
• 12:39
  Wright
• 12:39
  and
• 12:40
  I
• 12:40
  am
• 12:40
  your
• 12:41
  co
• 12:41
  host
• 12:41
  today
• 12:42
  on
• 12:42
  the
• 12:42
  Living
• 12:42
  Conversation
• 12:43
  with
• 12:44
  Adam
• 12:44
  Dietz.
• 12:45
  And
• 12:45
  we
• 12:45
  are
• 12:46
  talking
• 12:46
  with
• 12:46
  our
• 12:47
  guest
• 12:47
  friend,
• 12:47
  Bailey.
• 12:48
  And
• 12:48
  how
• 12:48
  can
• 12:49
  people
• 12:49
  contact
• 12:49
  your
• 12:49
  friend?
• 12:51
  My
• 12:51
  website,
• 12:52
  Fran
• 12:52
  baileyhealer.com
• 12:54
  you
• 12:54
  can
• 12:54
  message
• 12:54
  me.
• 12:55
  We
• 12:56
  can,
• 12:56
  we
• 12:56
  could
• 12:56
  do
• 12:57
  a
• 12:57
  free
• 12:57
  session.
• 12:58
  I
• 12:58
  do
• 12:58
  periodically,
• 13:00
  I
• 13:00
  do
• 13:01
  free
• 13:02
  meditations
• 13:03
  on
• 13:03
  Sundays
• 13:04
  like
• 13:04
  every
• 13:04
  couple
• 13:05
  months.
• 13:05
  So
• 13:06
  keep
• 13:06
  a
• 13:06
  lookout
• 13:07
  for
• 13:07
  that.
• 13:07
  And
• 13:08
  I'M
• 13:08
  on
• 13:08
  Facebook
• 13:09
  and
• 13:09
  Instagram
• 13:09
  and.
• 13:10
  And
• 13:11
  that's
• 13:11
  spelled
• 13:11
  B,
• 13:11
  A,
• 13:11
  I,
• 13:12
  L,
• 13:12
  E,
• 13:12
  Y.
• 13:12
  Is
• 13:13
  your
• 13:13
  last
• 13:13
  name
• 13:14
  correct?
• 13:15
  Great.
• 13:15
  We'll
• 13:15
  take
• 13:16
  a
• 13:16
  short
• 13:16
  break
• 13:16
  and
• 13:16
  be
• 13:16
  right
• 13:17
  back.
• 13:17
  So
• 13:17
  stay
• 13:17
  tuned.
• 13:33
  I'm
• 13:33
  Anthony
• 13:33
  Wright
• 13:34
  and
• 13:34
  I'm
• 13:34
  your
• 13:34
  co
• 13:34
  host
• 13:34
  today
• 13:35
  on
• 13:35
  the
• 13:35
  Living
• 13:35
  Conversation
• 13:36
  with
• 13:36
  Adam
• 13:37
  Dietz.
• 13:37
  Welcome.
• 13:37
  And
• 13:38
  we're
• 13:38
  talking
• 13:38
  with
• 13:38
  our
• 13:38
  guest
• 13:39
  Fran
• 13:39
  Bailey,
• 13:40
  who
• 13:40
  is
• 13:40
  a
• 13:41
  dancer
• 13:41
  turned
• 13:42
  healer.
• 13:42
  And
• 13:43
  I'd
• 13:43
  like
• 13:43
  you
• 13:43
  to
• 13:43
  continue,
• 13:44
  if
• 13:44
  you
• 13:44
  would,
• 13:44
  Fran,
• 13:45
  from
• 13:45
  before
• 13:46
  the
• 13:46
  break
• 13:46
  about
• 13:47
  what's
• 13:47
  going
• 13:47
  on
• 13:48
  and
• 13:49
  how
• 13:49
  do
• 13:49
  we
• 13:50
  work.
• 13:50
  And
• 13:50
  I
• 13:50
  appreciate,
• 13:51
  Adam,
• 13:51
  before
• 13:52
  the
• 13:52
  break,
• 13:52
  you
• 13:53
  gave
• 13:53
  a
• 13:53
  context
• 13:54
  of
• 13:55
  your
• 13:56
  and
• 13:56
  my
• 13:56
  education
• 13:57
  at
• 13:57
  the
• 13:57
  California
• 13:58
  Institute
• 13:58
  of
• 13:58
  Integral
• 13:59
  Studies
• 13:59
  from
• 14:00
  Sri
• 14:00
  Aurobindo.
• 14:02
  And.
• 14:02
  But
• 14:03
  Fran,
• 14:03
  I'd
• 14:04
  like
• 14:04
  to
• 14:04
  know
• 14:04
  more
• 14:04
  about
• 14:05
  your
• 14:05
  thoughts
• 14:05
  about
• 14:07
  healing
• 14:07
  the
• 14:07
  zeitgeist
• 14:08
  and
• 14:08
  how
• 14:08
  do
• 14:08
  we,
• 14:09
  where
• 14:09
  do
• 14:09
  we
• 14:09
  start?
• 14:10
  Or
• 14:11
  so
• 14:12
  continue
• 14:12
  with
• 14:12
  that.
• 14:13
  And
• 14:13
  you
• 14:13
  could
• 14:13
  see
• 14:13
  it
• 14:14
  in
• 14:14
  the
• 14:14
  people's
• 14:15
  chakra
• 14:16
  systems.
• 14:19
  So
• 14:22
  you
• 14:22
  think
• 14:22
  about
• 14:24
  what's
• 14:25
  so
• 14:25
  important
• 14:25
  is
• 14:26
  that
• 14:27
  people
• 14:27
  are
• 14:27
  aware
• 14:28
  of
• 14:29
  not
• 14:29
  being
• 14:29
  judged.
• 14:33
  So
• 14:34
  in
• 14:34
  this
• 14:35
  work,
• 14:35
  I
• 14:36
  always
• 14:36
  say
• 14:37
  don't
• 14:37
  apologize
• 14:38
  where
• 14:38
  you
• 14:38
  are.
• 14:39
  I
• 14:39
  am
• 14:39
  not
• 14:39
  judging
• 14:40
  you
• 14:40
  for
• 14:40
  where
• 14:41
  you
• 14:41
  are.
• 14:43
  The
• 14:44
  minute
• 14:44
  I
• 14:44
  say
• 14:44
  that,
• 14:45
  what
• 14:45
  happens,
• 14:46
  what
• 14:47
  happens
• 14:47
  to
• 14:47
  you
• 14:47
  when
• 14:47
  I
• 14:47
  say
• 14:48
  that?
• 14:48
  It's
• 14:48
  like,
• 14:49
  oh,
• 14:50
  there's
• 14:50
  a
• 14:50
  breath,
• 14:51
  right?
• 14:51
  It's
• 14:51
  like
• 14:51
  you're
• 14:52
  free.
• 14:52
  Permission.
• 14:53
  It's,
• 14:54
  it's,
• 14:54
  you
• 14:54
  have
• 14:54
  permission.
• 14:56
  Exactly.
• 14:58
  So
• 14:58
  that
• 14:58
  level
• 14:58
  of
• 14:59
  support
• 15:00
  and
• 15:01
  permission
• 15:01
  and
• 15:02
  not
• 15:02
  apologizing
• 15:03
  for
• 15:03
  who
• 15:03
  you
• 15:04
  are,
• 15:04
  who
• 15:04
  you
• 15:04
  were
• 15:05
  or
• 15:05
  your,
• 15:06
  your
• 15:07
  how
• 15:07
  you've
• 15:07
  navigated
• 15:08
  your
• 15:08
  life
• 15:08
  or
• 15:09
  working
• 15:09
  from
• 15:10
  this
• 15:10
  moment
• 15:11
  on.
• 15:13
  So
• 15:13
  with
• 15:13
  that
• 15:14
  saying,
• 15:14
  there
• 15:15
  is
• 15:15
  that
• 15:15
  absence
• 15:16
  of
• 15:16
  judgment,
• 15:17
  right?
• 15:18
  And
• 15:18
  so
• 15:19
  there's
• 15:19
  almost
• 15:19
  a
• 15:20
  breath
• 15:22
  to
• 15:22
  actually
• 15:22
  perceive
• 15:23
  of
• 15:23
  the
• 15:24
  idea
• 15:24
  that,
• 15:25
  wow,
• 15:27
  I
• 15:28
  think
• 15:28
  I
• 15:28
  can
• 15:28
  do
• 15:28
  that.
• 15:28
  I
• 15:29
  think
• 15:29
  I
• 15:29
  can
• 15:30
  love
• 15:31
  myself.
• 15:32
  Maybe
• 15:32
  if
• 15:32
  I
• 15:32
  learn
• 15:33
  more
• 15:33
  about
• 15:34
  what
• 15:34
  that
• 15:35
  looks
• 15:35
  like
• 15:36
  and
• 15:36
  when
• 15:37
  I
• 15:37
  put
• 15:37
  energy
• 15:37
  in
• 15:38
  what
• 15:38
  that
• 15:38
  looks
• 15:39
  like,
• 15:39
  I'm
• 15:40
  not
• 15:40
  putting
• 15:40
  my
• 15:40
  energy
• 15:41
  somewhere
• 15:41
  else
• 15:43
  seeking
• 15:44
  or
• 15:44
  trying
• 15:44
  to
• 15:44
  find
• 15:45
  or,
• 15:45
  you
• 15:46
  know,
• 15:46
  cling
• 15:46
  on
• 15:47
  to
• 15:47
  something
• 15:47
  else,
• 15:47
  that
• 15:48
  the
• 15:48
  clinging
• 15:49
  is,
• 15:49
  is
• 15:49
  what
• 15:50
  it's
• 15:50
  all
• 15:50
  about
• 15:50
  as
• 15:50
  well.
• 15:51
  So
• 15:52
  if
• 15:52
  you
• 15:52
  take
• 15:52
  away
• 15:53
  the
• 15:53
  clinging
• 15:54
  of
• 15:55
  others,
• 15:56
  how
• 15:56
  you
• 15:56
  should
• 15:56
  be,
• 15:57
  ought
• 15:57
  to
• 15:57
  be
• 15:57
  and
• 15:57
  have
• 15:58
  to
• 15:58
  be,
• 15:59
  then
• 16:00
  there's
• 16:00
  another
• 16:01
  breath
• 16:03
  of,
• 16:03
  okay,
• 16:04
  there
• 16:04
  I
• 16:05
  am
• 16:06
  now,
• 16:07
  what
• 16:07
  am
• 16:07
  I
• 16:07
  going
• 16:07
  to
• 16:07
  do
• 16:07
  with
• 16:08
  that?
• 16:09
  Am
• 16:09
  I
• 16:09
  going
• 16:09
  to
• 16:09
  love
• 16:10
  that
• 16:10
  person?
• 16:11
  Am
• 16:11
  I
• 16:11
  going
• 16:11
  to
• 16:12
  begin
• 16:12
  to
• 16:12
  inquire
• 16:13
  about
• 16:13
  that
• 16:14
  person?
• 16:15
  It's
• 16:15
  about
• 16:15
  inquiry.
• 16:17
  I
• 16:17
  want
• 16:17
  to
• 16:17
  know
• 16:18
  where
• 16:18
  that
• 16:18
  creative
• 16:19
  person
• 16:19
  is,
• 16:19
  where
• 16:20
  do
• 16:20
  they
• 16:20
  live?
• 16:21
  Where
• 16:21
  am
• 16:21
  I
• 16:22
  living
• 16:22
  in
• 16:22
  my
• 16:23
  own
• 16:23
  creation?
• 16:26
  And
• 16:27
  what
• 16:27
  you're
• 16:27
  doing,
• 16:28
  I'm
• 16:28
  noticing,
• 16:29
  is
• 16:32
  completely
• 16:32
  holding
• 16:33
  a
• 16:33
  space
• 16:33
  for
• 16:33
  people
• 16:36
  so
• 16:36
  that
• 16:36
  they
• 16:36
  can
• 16:36
  begin
• 16:37
  to
• 16:37
  hold
• 16:37
  the
• 16:37
  space
• 16:37
  for
• 16:38
  themselves.
• 16:38
  Is
• 16:38
  that.
• 16:39
  Right,
• 16:39
  Correct.
• 16:41
  And
• 16:43
  that's
• 16:43
  not
• 16:44
  a.
• 16:44
  Not
• 16:45
  a
• 16:45
  usual
• 16:45
  thing.
• 16:47
  No
• 16:47
  relationships.
• 16:49
  And
• 16:49
  yet
• 16:49
  it
• 16:50
  makes
• 16:50
  such
• 16:50
  a
• 16:50
  difference.
• 16:51
  But
• 16:52
  there's
• 16:52
  also
• 16:52
  something
• 16:52
  else
• 16:53
  that
• 16:54
  I
• 16:54
  notice
• 16:54
  when
• 16:55
  I'm
• 16:55
  working
• 16:55
  with
• 16:55
  my
• 16:55
  own
• 16:56
  students
• 16:57
  in
• 16:57
  teaching
• 16:57
  critical
• 16:58
  thinking
• 16:59
  of
• 16:59
  validation.
• 17:01
  Validation
• 17:02
  is
• 17:03
  a
• 17:03
  huge
• 17:03
  component
• 17:04
  to
• 17:05
  say,
• 17:05
  yeah,
• 17:05
  I
• 17:05
  see
• 17:05
  you,
• 17:06
  and
• 17:06
  yeah,
• 17:07
  you
• 17:07
  have
• 17:08
  capability
• 17:09
  and
• 17:09
  you
• 17:10
  are
• 17:12
  this
• 17:13
  being
• 17:14
  that
• 17:14
  is
• 17:14
  more
• 17:14
  than
• 17:15
  you
• 17:15
  know.
• 17:17
  And.
• 17:19
  Where
• 17:20
  are
• 17:20
  you
• 17:20
  drawn
• 17:22
  with
• 17:22
  your
• 17:22
  clients
• 17:24
  in
• 17:25
  not
• 17:25
  only
• 17:25
  the
• 17:26
  group
• 17:26
  work,
• 17:26
  but
• 17:26
  individual
• 17:27
  work
• 17:28
  to
• 17:28
  invite
• 17:29
  them
• 17:30
  to
• 17:30
  their
• 17:30
  highest
• 17:31
  vitality.
• 17:41
  Again,
• 17:41
  it
• 17:42
  depends
• 17:42
  on
• 17:42
  the
• 17:42
  client,
• 17:43
  but
• 17:44
  I
• 17:44
  think
• 17:44
  there's
• 17:45
  a
• 17:45
  level
• 17:46
  of
• 17:48
  submission,
• 17:51
  Submission
• 17:52
  for
• 17:53
  the
• 17:54
  actual
• 17:54
  healing
• 17:55
  to
• 17:55
  begin.
• 17:56
  So
• 17:57
  it's
• 17:57
  actually.
• 17:59
  If
• 17:59
  I
• 17:59
  get
• 17:59
  out
• 17:59
  of
• 17:59
  my
• 17:59
  way
• 18:00
  and
• 18:00
  they
• 18:00
  are
• 18:01
  able
• 18:01
  to
• 18:01
  get
• 18:01
  out
• 18:01
  of
• 18:01
  their
• 18:02
  way,
• 18:02
  then
• 18:03
  the
• 18:03
  submission
• 18:04
  is
• 18:04
  the
• 18:04
  actual
• 18:05
  healing
• 18:06
  that
• 18:06
  takes
• 18:06
  place
• 18:08
  and.
• 18:08
  Opening
• 18:09
  to
• 18:09
  what
• 18:09
  is
• 18:10
  possible.
• 18:10
  Whatever.
• 18:11
  Whatever
• 18:11
  is
• 18:11
  possible.
• 18:12
  Correct.
• 18:13
  Yeah.
• 18:13
  So
• 18:14
  the
• 18:14
  probability
• 18:14
  is.
• 18:15
  The
• 18:15
  probability
• 18:15
  is
• 18:16
  the
• 18:16
  probability.
• 18:17
  You
• 18:17
  know,
• 18:18
  it's.
• 18:18
  It's
• 18:19
  there
• 18:20
  when
• 18:20
  it's.
• 18:21
  The
• 18:21
  space
• 18:21
  is
• 18:21
  created
• 18:22
  to.
• 18:22
  For
• 18:23
  it
• 18:23
  to
• 18:23
  come
• 18:23
  through.
• 18:23
  Through.
• 18:26
  It's
• 18:26
  like
• 18:26
  any
• 18:27
  kind.
• 18:27
  It's
• 18:27
  like
• 18:27
  dance.
• 18:28
  It's
• 18:28
  like
• 18:28
  choreography.
• 18:29
  It's
• 18:29
  the
• 18:29
  same
• 18:30
  thing.
• 18:31
  You
• 18:31
  have
• 18:31
  a
• 18:31
  piece
• 18:32
  of
• 18:32
  music
• 18:32
  and
• 18:32
  your
• 18:32
  body
• 18:33
  responds
• 18:33
  to
• 18:33
  the
• 18:34
  piece
• 18:34
  of
• 18:34
  music.
• 18:35
  It's
• 18:35
  sometimes
• 18:36
  like
• 18:36
  that.
• 18:36
  It
• 18:37
  sometimes
• 18:37
  takes
• 18:37
  forever.
• 18:38
  But
• 18:39
  what
• 18:39
  happens
• 18:39
  is
• 18:40
  the
• 18:40
  collaboration
• 18:42
  and
• 18:42
  the
• 18:42
  zinger
• 18:43
  is
• 18:44
  just
• 18:44
  maybe
• 18:45
  one
• 18:45
  movement
• 18:46
  or
• 18:47
  one
• 18:47
  word
• 18:47
  or
• 18:48
  one
• 18:48
  note
• 18:49
  to
• 18:49
  the
• 18:49
  same
• 18:49
  principle.
• 18:51
  And
• 18:52
  you
• 18:52
  ask
• 18:52
  for
• 18:52
  that
• 18:53
  gem
• 18:54
  to
• 18:54
  come
• 18:54
  forward
• 18:55
  that.
• 18:55
  That
• 18:55
  the
• 18:56
  crystal
• 18:56
  will
• 18:56
  be
• 18:57
  there
• 18:57
  for
• 18:58
  that
• 18:58
  reflection.
• 19:01
  In.
• 19:02
  In
• 19:02
  the
• 19:03
  work
• 19:03
  that
• 19:03
  Adam
• 19:03
  and
• 19:04
  I
• 19:04
  have
• 19:04
  done
• 19:04
  in
• 19:04
  studying
• 19:04
  Chinese
• 19:05
  philosophy
• 19:05
  and
• 19:06
  other.
• 19:06
  Other
• 19:07
  philosophies,
• 19:07
  and
• 19:07
  certainly
• 19:08
  to
• 19:09
  cite
• 19:09
  the
• 19:09
  work
• 19:09
  of
• 19:10
  Mihaly
• 19:10
  Csikszentmihalyi
• 19:12
  and
• 19:12
  also
• 19:15
  Vinnie
• 19:17
  Colatuta,
• 19:18
  I
• 19:18
  believe
• 19:18
  his
• 19:18
  name
• 19:18
  is.
• 19:18
  Is
• 19:19
  a
• 19:19
  drummer.
• 19:20
  Would
• 19:20
  you
• 19:20
  say
• 19:21
  what
• 19:21
  you're
• 19:21
  looking
• 19:21
  for
• 19:21
  is
• 19:22
  a
• 19:22
  flow
• 19:22
  state
• 19:25
  or
• 19:25
  we
• 19:25
  forget
• 19:25
  ourselves?
• 19:26
  Yeah,
• 19:27
  right.
• 19:27
  When.
• 19:28
  When
• 19:28
  I
• 19:28
  forget
• 19:29
  their.
• 19:29
  When
• 19:29
  I
• 19:29
  forget
• 19:30
  about
• 19:30
  Anthony,
• 19:30
  there's
• 19:31
  no
• 19:31
  separation
• 19:31
  then.
• 19:33
  And,
• 19:34
  and
• 19:35
  that's
• 19:35
  a
• 19:35
  lot
• 19:35
  of
• 19:35
  what
• 19:36
  I've
• 19:36
  been
• 19:36
  doing
• 19:36
  and
• 19:36
  what
• 19:36
  Adam
• 19:37
  is
• 19:37
  doing
• 19:37
  and
• 19:37
  what
• 19:37
  I
• 19:38
  sense
• 19:38
  that
• 19:38
  you
• 19:38
  are
• 19:39
  doing
• 19:39
  is
• 19:39
  to
• 19:40
  invite
• 19:40
  people
• 19:40
  to
• 19:41
  forget
• 19:41
  themselves
• 19:42
  so
• 19:42
  that
• 19:45
  we
• 19:45
  can
• 19:45
  be
• 19:45
  at
• 19:45
  one
• 19:47
  with.
• 19:49
  With
• 19:49
  the
• 19:49
  divine.
• 19:50
  Exactly.
• 19:51
  But
• 19:52
  I.
• 19:52
  I
• 19:52
  would
• 19:52
  like
• 19:53
  to
• 19:53
  come
• 19:53
  back
• 19:53
  because
• 19:53
  we're
• 19:54
  coming
• 19:54
  up
• 19:54
  to
• 19:54
  the.
• 19:54
  You
• 19:54
  know,
• 19:55
  we've
• 19:55
  got
• 19:55
  a
• 19:55
  few
• 19:55
  minutes
• 19:55
  left.
• 19:56
  In
• 19:56
  the
• 19:56
  interview,
• 19:57
  can
• 19:57
  you
• 19:57
  speak
• 19:57
  about
• 19:59
  the
• 19:59
  importance
• 19:59
  of
• 20:00
  grounding
• 20:02
  and
• 20:02
  where
• 20:02
  that
• 20:03
  makes
• 20:03
  all
• 20:04
  of
• 20:04
  this,
• 20:04
  all
• 20:04
  this
• 20:05
  other
• 20:06
  development
• 20:07
  possible?
• 20:09
  Oh,
• 20:10
  yeah.
• 20:10
  I.
• 20:11
  Well,
• 20:11
  recently,
• 20:13
  and
• 20:13
  I've
• 20:13
  been
• 20:13
  sort
• 20:14
  of
• 20:14
  questioning
• 20:15
  this
• 20:15
  and
• 20:16
  why
• 20:17
  I.
• 20:19
  I
• 20:19
  kept
• 20:20
  seeing,
• 20:20
  okay,
• 20:20
  well,
• 20:20
  where.
• 20:21
  Where's
• 20:21
  the
• 20:21
  grounding
• 20:21
  cord?
• 20:22
  I
• 20:22
  can't
• 20:22
  find
• 20:22
  it.
• 20:23
  I
• 20:23
  Can't
• 20:23
  find
• 20:24
  the
• 20:24
  access,
• 20:25
  I
• 20:25
  can't
• 20:25
  find
• 20:25
  the
• 20:26
  grounding
• 20:26
  cord.
• 20:27
  So
• 20:28
  what
• 20:28
  is
• 20:28
  happening?
• 20:29
  And
• 20:30
  I
• 20:30
  believe
• 20:30
  that
• 20:31
  the
• 20:31
  energy
• 20:31
  is
• 20:32
  shifting
• 20:32
  so
• 20:32
  quickly
• 20:33
  and
• 20:34
  that
• 20:34
  concept
• 20:35
  of
• 20:35
  grounding
• 20:36
  is
• 20:36
  something
• 20:37
  different.
• 20:40
  So
• 20:40
  when
• 20:41
  I
• 20:41
  asked,
• 20:42
  and
• 20:42
  I'm
• 20:42
  just
• 20:42
  doing
• 20:42
  this
• 20:43
  new
• 20:43
  meditation
• 20:44
  now
• 20:44
  with
• 20:44
  all
• 20:45
  the.
• 20:45
  Anyway,
• 20:47
  it's,
• 20:49
  it's
• 20:50
  opening
• 20:50
  up
• 20:50
  to
• 20:50
  something
• 20:51
  different.
• 20:51
  So
• 20:51
  in
• 20:52
  other
• 20:52
  words,
• 20:52
  what
• 20:53
  I'm
• 20:53
  seeing
• 20:54
  as
• 20:54
  part
• 20:55
  of
• 20:55
  the
• 20:55
  center
• 20:55
  of
• 20:55
  the
• 20:55
  earth
• 20:56
  as
• 20:56
  Mother
• 20:56
  Gaim
• 20:57
  is
• 20:57
  shifting
• 20:57
  and
• 20:58
  changing
• 20:58
  so
• 20:59
  quickly.
• 21:00
  How
• 21:01
  can
• 21:01
  I
• 21:01
  ask
• 21:01
  her
• 21:01
  to
• 21:02
  be
• 21:02
  what
• 21:02
  was.
• 21:05
  Well,
• 21:05
  and
• 21:06
  maybe
• 21:06
  even
• 21:06
  staying
• 21:07
  in
• 21:07
  touch?
• 21:08
  So
• 21:08
  it's.
• 21:09
  So
• 21:09
  I've
• 21:10
  asked
• 21:10
  her
• 21:11
  Mother
• 21:11
  Gaia
• 21:12
  to
• 21:13
  show
• 21:13
  me
• 21:15
  this
• 21:15
  new
• 21:15
  energy
• 21:16
  constantly,
• 21:17
  every
• 21:17
  day.
• 21:18
  So
• 21:18
  what
• 21:19
  comes
• 21:19
  up
• 21:19
  is
• 21:19
  this
• 21:20
  color
• 21:20
  blue
• 21:22
  and
• 21:22
  this
• 21:22
  rainbow
• 21:23
  and
• 21:23
  all
• 21:24
  the
• 21:24
  elementals,
• 21:26
  not
• 21:26
  necessarily
• 21:27
  in
• 21:27
  a
• 21:28
  cord,
• 21:29
  but
• 21:29
  in
• 21:29
  a
• 21:30
  column
• 21:30
  of
• 21:31
  energy
• 21:31
  coming
• 21:32
  up
• 21:32
  into
• 21:32
  the
• 21:32
  first
• 21:33
  and
• 21:33
  second
• 21:33
  chakras,
• 21:34
  which
• 21:34
  is
• 21:34
  so
• 21:35
  cool
• 21:35
  because
• 21:35
  what
• 21:35
  is
• 21:36
  above
• 21:36
  is
• 21:36
  below.
• 21:37
  Right?
• 21:37
  And
• 21:38
  now
• 21:38
  it's
• 21:38
  beginning
• 21:38
  to
• 21:39
  connect
• 21:39
  all
• 21:40
  the
• 21:40
  way
• 21:40
  through.
• 21:43
  Oh
• 21:43
  yes.
• 21:44
  And
• 21:44
  I'm
• 21:44
  just
• 21:44
  reflecting
• 21:45
  and
• 21:45
  I
• 21:45
  want
• 21:45
  to
• 21:47
  have
• 21:47
  your
• 21:48
  comments,
• 21:48
  Adam,
• 21:48
  but
• 21:49
  it,
• 21:50
  there's
• 21:51
  a
• 21:51
  German
• 21:51
  term
• 21:52
  called
• 21:52
  disgruntled
• 21:54
  and
• 21:54
  it
• 21:55
  translates
• 21:55
  to
• 21:55
  ungrounded.
• 21:57
  If
• 21:58
  you
• 21:58
  are
• 21:58
  disgruntled,
• 21:59
  well
• 21:59
  then
• 21:59
  you're
• 22:00
  ungrounded.
• 22:00
  That's
• 22:01
  reground.
• 22:02
  I
• 22:02
  like
• 22:02
  that.
• 22:02
  So
• 22:04
  what
• 22:05
  are
• 22:05
  you
• 22:05
  thinking,
• 22:05
  Adam?
• 22:07
  The,
• 22:08
  the
• 22:08
  biggest
• 22:08
  thing
• 22:09
  is
• 22:09
  while
• 22:09
  we're
• 22:09
  talking
• 22:10
  here,
• 22:10
  I'm
• 22:11
  thinking
• 22:11
  about
• 22:11
  how
• 22:12
  emptying
• 22:12
  your
• 22:13
  mind
• 22:13
  in
• 22:13
  Taoist
• 22:14
  philosophy.
• 22:15
  Emptying
• 22:15
  your
• 22:15
  mind.
• 22:17
  When
• 22:17
  you
• 22:17
  empty
• 22:17
  your
• 22:18
  mind,
• 22:18
  then
• 22:19
  you
• 22:19
  can
• 22:19
  allow
• 22:19
  the
• 22:20
  most
• 22:20
  pure
• 22:20
  original
• 22:21
  energy,
• 22:22
  the
• 22:22
  most
• 22:22
  pure
• 22:23
  original
• 22:23
  part
• 22:23
  of
• 22:23
  yourself
• 22:24
  to
• 22:24
  come
• 22:24
  forth.
• 22:26
  And
• 22:27
  I
• 22:27
  used
• 22:28
  to
• 22:28
  have
• 22:28
  my
• 22:28
  students
• 22:28
  would
• 22:29
  get
• 22:29
  really
• 22:29
  concerned.
• 22:30
  Oh,
• 22:30
  professor,
• 22:31
  you're
• 22:31
  saying
• 22:31
  forget
• 22:31
  yourself?
• 22:32
  Well,
• 22:32
  I
• 22:32
  like
• 22:32
  myself.
• 22:33
  I
• 22:33
  don't
• 22:33
  want
• 22:33
  to
• 22:34
  forget
• 22:34
  myself.
• 22:35
  And
• 22:35
  so
• 22:36
  of
• 22:36
  course
• 22:36
  I
• 22:36
  understand
• 22:36
  that
• 22:37
  the
• 22:37
  great.
• 22:37
  I'm
• 22:37
  happy
• 22:38
  for
• 22:38
  you.
• 22:38
  But
• 22:38
  when
• 22:38
  you
• 22:39
  forget
• 22:39
  yourself,
• 22:40
  when
• 22:40
  you
• 22:40
  purify
• 22:41
  your
• 22:41
  mind,
• 22:41
  when
• 22:41
  you
• 22:41
  empty
• 22:42
  your
• 22:42
  mind,
• 22:42
  then
• 22:43
  you
• 22:43
  can
• 22:43
  see
• 22:43
  everything
• 22:44
  about
• 22:44
  yourself
• 22:45
  more
• 22:45
  clearly
• 22:46
  at
• 22:46
  a
• 22:46
  higher
• 22:46
  level,
• 22:47
  including
• 22:47
  your
• 22:48
  chakras,
• 22:48
  including
• 22:48
  different
• 22:49
  energies.
• 22:49
  However
• 22:49
  you're
• 22:50
  oriented,
• 22:50
  maybe
• 22:50
  you're.
• 22:51
  Maybe
• 22:51
  you're
• 22:51
  thought
• 22:51
  oriented.
• 22:52
  Okay,
• 22:52
  well,
• 22:52
  now
• 22:53
  you
• 22:53
  see
• 22:53
  your
• 22:53
  thought
• 22:53
  more
• 22:54
  clearly
• 22:54
  with
• 22:54
  more
• 22:54
  perspective.
• 22:56
  You're
• 22:56
  not
• 22:56
  just
• 22:56
  stuck
• 22:57
  in
• 22:57
  the
• 22:57
  stream
• 22:57
  of
• 22:57
  consciousness.
• 22:58
  Maybe
• 22:59
  you're
• 22:59
  really
• 22:59
  energy
• 23:00
  oriented.
• 23:00
  You
• 23:00
  see
• 23:01
  energies,
• 23:01
  you
• 23:01
  feel
• 23:01
  like.
• 23:01
  Well
• 23:02
  now
• 23:02
  you
• 23:02
  see
• 23:02
  them
• 23:02
  from
• 23:02
  a
• 23:02
  higher
• 23:02
  perspective
• 23:03
  as
• 23:03
  well.
• 23:04
  So
• 23:04
  I
• 23:04
  just
• 23:04
  think
• 23:04
  it's
• 23:05
  so
• 23:05
  beautiful.
• 23:06
  Again,
• 23:06
  another
• 23:07
  example
• 23:07
  of
• 23:07
  the
• 23:07
  living
• 23:07
  conversation
• 23:08
  where
• 23:08
  we
• 23:08
  come
• 23:09
  together
• 23:09
  from
• 23:09
  different
• 23:09
  walks
• 23:10
  of
• 23:10
  life
• 23:10
  and
• 23:10
  we
• 23:11
  come
• 23:11
  to
• 23:11
  see
• 23:12
  the
• 23:13
  path
• 23:13
  of
• 23:14
  high
• 23:14
  level
• 23:15
  spirituality,
• 23:15
  but
• 23:16
  also
• 23:16
  how
• 23:17
  it
• 23:17
  becomes
• 23:17
  manifest
• 23:18
  and
• 23:18
  how
• 23:18
  it
• 23:18
  makes
• 23:19
  our
• 23:19
  individual
• 23:20
  being,
• 23:21
  our
• 23:22
  person,
• 23:23
  more
• 23:23
  rich.
• 23:24
  And
• 23:24
  so
• 23:24
  I
• 23:25
  guess
• 23:25
  my
• 23:25
  final
• 23:25
  question
• 23:25
  in
• 23:26
  that
• 23:26
  is
• 23:26
  it
• 23:27
  must
• 23:27
  be
• 23:27
  very
• 23:27
  satisfying
• 23:28
  for
• 23:28
  you
• 23:28
  when
• 23:28
  you
• 23:28
  see
• 23:29
  people
• 23:29
  that
• 23:29
  have,
• 23:29
  have,
• 23:32
  let's
• 23:32
  say
• 23:32
  in
• 23:32
  this
• 23:32
  term,
• 23:33
  forgotten
• 23:33
  themselves,
• 23:34
  maybe
• 23:35
  had
• 23:35
  some
• 23:35
  insight
• 23:36
  into
• 23:36
  their
• 23:36
  energy
• 23:36
  and
• 23:37
  come
• 23:37
  out
• 23:37
  and
• 23:37
  come
• 23:37
  out
• 23:38
  heal
• 23:38
  and
• 23:38
  more
• 23:38
  full,
• 23:39
  more
• 23:39
  full
• 23:39
  human
• 23:39
  being.
• 23:40
  Could
• 23:40
  you
• 23:40
  just
• 23:40
  describe
• 23:41
  the
• 23:41
  process
• 23:41
  of,
• 23:42
  as
• 23:42
  a
• 23:42
  healer,
• 23:43
  when
• 23:43
  you
• 23:44
  see
• 23:44
  the
• 23:45
  process
• 23:45
  of
• 23:45
  healing
• 23:46
  and
• 23:46
  the
• 23:46
  end
• 23:46
  result,
• 23:46
  what
• 23:47
  it
• 23:47
  feels
• 23:47
  like
• 23:47
  for
• 23:47
  you?
• 23:50
  It
• 23:50
  feels
• 23:51
  great.
• 23:51
  It
• 23:51
  feels
• 23:52
  great
• 23:52
  when
• 23:53
  I
• 23:53
  do
• 23:53
  these
• 23:54
  sort
• 23:54
  of
• 23:55
  intensives,
• 23:56
  three
• 23:56
  sessions
• 23:57
  with
• 23:57
  one
• 23:57
  person,
• 23:57
  if
• 23:58
  they're
• 23:58
  going
• 23:58
  through
• 23:58
  like
• 23:59
  a
• 23:59
  traumatic
• 24:00
  crisis
• 24:01
  or
• 24:01
  they
• 24:01
  have
• 24:01
  a
• 24:02
  shift
• 24:02
  or
• 24:02
  divorce
• 24:03
  or
• 24:03
  whatever.
• 24:03
  And
• 24:05
  so
• 24:05
  in
• 24:05
  those
• 24:05
  three
• 24:05
  sessions,
• 24:07
  the
• 24:07
  intensity
• 24:08
  and
• 24:08
  the
• 24:08
  speed
• 24:08
  in
• 24:09
  which
• 24:09
  I
• 24:09
  see
• 24:10
  the
• 24:10
  changes
• 24:10
  is
• 24:11
  very,
• 24:11
  very
• 24:12
  satisfying.
• 24:12
  And
• 24:13
  you
• 24:13
  know,
• 24:13
  after
• 24:13
  the
• 24:13
  three,
• 24:14
  I
• 24:14
  said,
• 24:14
  oh,
• 24:14
  they're
• 24:14
  not
• 24:14
  going
• 24:15
  to,
• 24:15
  they'll
• 24:16
  call
• 24:16
  me
• 24:16
  in
• 24:17
  six
• 24:17
  months
• 24:17
  or
• 24:17
  something.
• 24:18
  But
• 24:18
  what
• 24:18
  happens
• 24:19
  is,
• 24:19
  what
• 24:20
  I
• 24:20
  notice
• 24:20
  is
• 24:21
  they're
• 24:21
  happy.
• 24:23
  They're
• 24:24
  actually
• 24:24
  happy
• 24:26
  and
• 24:26
  they
• 24:26
  don't
• 24:27
  apologize
• 24:28
  and
• 24:28
  their
• 24:28
  bodies
• 24:29
  are,
• 24:29
  you
• 24:30
  know,
• 24:30
  upright.
• 24:30
  They
• 24:31
  aren't
• 24:31
  sunk
• 24:32
  in
• 24:32
  at
• 24:32
  the
• 24:32
  third
• 24:33
  and
• 24:33
  you
• 24:33
  know,
• 24:33
  they're
• 24:33
  just,
• 24:35
  they're
• 24:35
  okay
• 24:36
  with
• 24:36
  themselves.
• 24:37
  And
• 24:37
  if
• 24:37
  I
• 24:37
  can
• 24:37
  do
• 24:37
  that,
• 24:39
  I'm
• 24:40
  pleased.
• 24:41
  Can
• 24:41
  I,
• 24:41
  can
• 24:41
  I
• 24:42
  follow
• 24:42
  up
• 24:42
  on
• 24:42
  that?
• 24:42
  Do
• 24:43
  we
• 24:43
  have
• 24:43
  time,
• 24:43
  Anthony?
• 24:44
  Yeah,
• 24:44
  I
• 24:45
  just
• 24:45
  want
• 24:45
  to.
• 24:45
  Just
• 24:45
  a
• 24:46
  couple
• 24:46
  minutes.
• 24:46
  Yeah,
• 24:46
  I
• 24:46
  just
• 24:46
  want
• 24:47
  to.
• 24:47
  The
• 24:47
  final
• 24:47
  thing
• 24:48
  is,
• 24:48
  I'm
• 24:49
  sure
• 24:49
  it
• 24:49
  wasn't
• 24:49
  easy
• 24:50
  for
• 24:50
  you
• 24:50
  from
• 24:50
  a
• 24:51
  four
• 24:51
  year
• 24:51
  old
• 24:51
  dancer
• 24:51
  who
• 24:52
  I
• 24:52
  think
• 24:52
  you
• 24:52
  described
• 24:52
  in
• 24:53
  some
• 24:53
  of
• 24:53
  your
• 24:53
  work,
• 24:53
  that
• 24:53
  you're
• 24:54
  feeling
• 24:54
  the
• 24:54
  metaphysical
• 24:54
  as
• 24:55
  you're
• 24:55
  dancing.
• 24:55
  Right?
• 24:56
  Is
• 24:56
  that
• 24:56
  right?
• 24:56
  And
• 24:57
  I'm
• 24:57
  sure
• 24:57
  it
• 24:57
  wasn't
• 24:58
  easy
• 24:58
  for
• 24:58
  you
• 24:58
  to
• 24:59
  walk
• 24:59
  that
• 24:59
  path
• 25:00
  from
• 25:00
  a
• 25:00
  four
• 25:00
  year
• 25:00
  old
• 25:00
  dancer
• 25:01
  who's
• 25:01
  almost
• 25:02
  manifesting
• 25:02
  the
• 25:02
  metaphysical
• 25:03
  as
• 25:03
  an
• 25:03
  innocent
• 25:03
  child,
• 25:04
  to
• 25:05
  the
• 25:05
  satisfaction
• 25:06
  of
• 25:06
  a
• 25:06
  healer
• 25:07
  who's
• 25:07
  helping
• 25:07
  their
• 25:07
  clients
• 25:08
  heal.
• 25:09
  In
• 25:09
  this,
• 25:09
  in
• 25:10
  your
• 25:10
  current
• 25:10
  work,
• 25:11
  could
• 25:11
  you
• 25:12
  say
• 25:12
  something
• 25:13
  for
• 25:13
  our
• 25:13
  listeners
• 25:14
  about
• 25:14
  that
• 25:15
  path,
• 25:15
  the
• 25:16
  challenges
• 25:16
  that
• 25:16
  come
• 25:17
  up
• 25:17
  and
• 25:17
  how,
• 25:18
  how,
• 25:19
  you
• 25:19
  know,
• 25:19
  staying
• 25:20
  true,
• 25:20
  let's
• 25:20
  say
• 25:21
  in
• 25:21
  a
• 25:21
  cliche
• 25:21
  way,
• 25:21
  staying
• 25:22
  true
• 25:22
  to
• 25:22
  yourself,
• 25:22
  but
• 25:22
  having
• 25:23
  a
• 25:23
  vocation
• 25:23
  and,
• 25:24
  and
• 25:24
  you
• 25:25
  know,
• 25:25
  seeing
• 25:25
  it
• 25:25
  through
• 25:26
  how,
• 25:27
  how
• 25:27
  that
• 25:27
  looked
• 25:28
  for
• 25:28
  you.
• 25:31
  Well,
• 25:31
  I
• 25:31
  think
• 25:32
  again,
• 25:35
  everything
• 25:35
  that
• 25:35
  I
• 25:36
  sort
• 25:36
  of
• 25:36
  teach
• 25:36
  or
• 25:36
  I've
• 25:36
  done,
• 25:37
  I'm
• 25:37
  the
• 25:37
  guinea
• 25:37
  pig.
• 25:38
  So
• 25:39
  I
• 25:39
  do
• 25:39
  it
• 25:39
  on
• 25:39
  myself
• 25:40
  first
• 25:40
  because
• 25:41
  I
• 25:41
  think
• 25:41
  that's,
• 25:42
  that
• 25:42
  I
• 25:42
  know
• 25:42
  it's
• 25:42
  valid.
• 25:43
  You
• 25:44
  know,
• 25:44
  I
• 25:44
  asked
• 25:44
  the
• 25:44
  question
• 25:44
  again,
• 25:45
  I
• 25:45
  have
• 25:45
  to
• 25:46
  go
• 25:46
  through
• 25:46
  that
• 25:46
  process
• 25:46
  of
• 25:48
  going
• 25:48
  through
• 25:48
  it
• 25:49
  so
• 25:49
  that
• 25:49
  I
• 25:49
  can
• 25:49
  share
• 25:49
  it.
• 25:50
  That's
• 25:50
  number
• 25:50
  one.
• 25:51
  Number
• 25:51
  two,
• 25:52
  I
• 25:52
  think
• 25:52
  that
• 25:54
  my
• 25:55
  spiritual
• 25:55
  experience
• 25:56
  and
• 25:56
  my
• 25:56
  visions
• 25:58
  have
• 25:58
  encouraged
• 25:59
  me
• 25:59
  to
• 26:00
  stay
• 26:01
  on
• 26:01
  this
• 26:01
  path
• 26:01
  because
• 26:03
  there,
• 26:03
  there's
• 26:03
  any
• 26:04
  going
• 26:04
  back
• 26:05
  because
• 26:06
  it's
• 26:06
  just
• 26:07
  okay.
• 26:07
  There's
• 26:08
  another,
• 26:08
  there's
• 26:08
  another,
• 26:08
  there's
• 26:09
  another.
• 26:09
  And
• 26:09
  they've
• 26:10
  been
• 26:10
  very,
• 26:10
  very,
• 26:11
  you
• 26:12
  know,
• 26:12
  very
• 26:12
  dynamic.
• 26:13
  And
• 26:13
  white
• 26:14
  elephant
• 26:14
  and
• 26:14
  white
• 26:14
  buffalo
• 26:15
  and
• 26:15
  you
• 26:16
  know,
• 26:16
  all
• 26:16
  these
• 26:16
  incredible.
• 26:18
  Seeing
• 26:18
  Jesus
• 26:19
  and
• 26:19
  saying,
• 26:19
  okay,
• 26:20
  you
• 26:20
  can
• 26:20
  heal
• 26:21
  and
• 26:21
  you
• 26:21
  can
• 26:21
  dance.
• 26:21
  And
• 26:21
  he
• 26:22
  put
• 26:22
  his
• 26:22
  hands
• 26:22
  on
• 26:22
  my
• 26:22
  hands
• 26:23
  and
• 26:24
  that
• 26:24
  was
• 26:24
  it.
• 26:25
  Okay.
• 26:27
  So
• 26:27
  you
• 26:28
  know,
• 26:28
  feeling
• 26:28
  his
• 26:28
  robe,
• 26:29
  seeing
• 26:29
  his
• 26:30
  feet,
• 26:32
  near
• 26:32
  death
• 26:32
  experience.
• 26:33
  I
• 26:33
  mean
• 26:33
  these,
• 26:34
  all
• 26:34
  these
• 26:34
  accumulated
• 26:35
  things
• 26:36
  have
• 26:37
  helped
• 26:37
  me
• 26:40
  validate,
• 26:40
  you
• 26:41
  know,
• 26:41
  the
• 26:41
  work.
• 26:42
  And
• 26:42
  I'm
• 26:42
  here
• 26:43
  to
• 26:43
  do
• 26:43
  that.
• 26:43
  It's
• 26:43
  my
• 26:44
  mission.
• 26:44
  So
• 26:45
  I
• 26:45
  think
• 26:46
  that
• 26:46
  that's,
• 26:49
  you
• 26:49
  know,
• 26:49
  I'm
• 26:49
  human
• 26:50
  too.
• 26:51
  I
• 26:51
  make
• 26:51
  mistakes
• 26:52
  and
• 26:52
  do
• 26:52
  all
• 26:52
  those
• 26:53
  horrible
• 26:53
  things.
• 26:53
  But
• 26:54
  then,
• 26:54
  you
• 26:54
  know
• 26:54
  what?
• 26:54
  We
• 26:55
  all
• 26:55
  are.
• 26:55
  So
• 26:55
  what
• 26:55
  the
• 26:56
  hell.
• 26:56
  Confucius,
• 26:57
  Confucius,
• 26:57
  you
• 26:58
  know,
• 26:58
  the
• 26:58
  highest
• 26:58
  level
• 26:58
  is
• 26:59
  our
• 26:59
  humanity.
• 26:59
  So
• 27:01
  I'm
• 27:02
  afraid
• 27:02
  we
• 27:02
  are
• 27:02
  out
• 27:02
  of
• 27:03
  time.
• 27:04
  I'm
• 27:04
  Anthony
• 27:04
  Wright
• 27:05
  and
• 27:05
  I
• 27:05
  am
• 27:05
  your
• 27:06
  co
• 27:06
  host
• 27:06
  today
• 27:06
  on
• 27:06
  the
• 27:07
  Living
• 27:07
  Conversation
• 27:07
  with
• 27:08
  Adam
• 27:09
  Dietz.
• 27:09
  And
• 27:09
  we
• 27:10
  have
• 27:10
  been
• 27:10
  talking
• 27:10
  with
• 27:10
  our
• 27:11
  guest
• 27:12
  dancer
• 27:12
  turned
• 27:13
  healer
• 27:13
  Fran
• 27:13
  Bailey,
• 27:15
  who
• 27:15
  is
• 27:15
  the
• 27:17
  developer
• 27:17
  of
• 27:17
  the
• 27:17
  Shiva
• 27:18
  method.
• 27:18
  And
• 27:18
  how
• 27:18
  can
• 27:18
  people
• 27:19
  contact
• 27:19
  you?
• 27:21
  Contact
• 27:21
  me
• 27:21
  on
• 27:22
  Fran
• 27:22
  baileyhealer.com
• 27:23
  Message
• 27:24
  me,
• 27:24
  we
• 27:24
  can
• 27:24
  have
• 27:25
  a
• 27:25
  consult.
• 27:27
  There's
• 27:27
  a
• 27:27
  free
• 27:27
  meditation
• 27:28
  on
• 27:28
  my
• 27:29
  homepage,
• 27:30
  lots
• 27:30
  of
• 27:31
  other
• 27:31
  items.
• 27:32
  I
• 27:32
  go
• 27:32
  through
• 27:32
  the
• 27:34
  website
• 27:34
  and
• 27:35
  that's.
• 27:35
  B
• 27:35
  A
• 27:35
  I
• 27:36
  L
• 27:36
  E
• 27:36
  Y
• 27:36
  Fran
• 27:37
  Bailey
• 27:37
  dot
• 27:38
  com.
• 27:40
  Well,
• 27:40
  thank
• 27:40
  you
• 27:40
  so
• 27:40
  much
• 27:41
  for
• 27:41
  being
• 27:41
  our
• 27:42
  guest
• 27:42
  and
• 27:42
  thanks
• 27:42
  for
• 27:43
  listening
• 27:43
  and
• 27:43
  we
• 27:44
  will
• 27:44
  see
• 27:44
  you
• 27:44
  next
• 27:45
  time.