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- 0:00Speaker 1: Two questions regarding the financial possible war back during the
- 0:04Speaker 1: Persian Goal for nineteen ninety nineteen ninety one Arab countries
- 0:08Speaker 1: hey for the vast majority of the cost of the war, Kuwait,
- 0:12Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, the UAE. Who's paying for the cost of
- 0:16Speaker 1: this war? Will those Arab countries step up to do this?
- 0:19Speaker 2: Then?
- 0:19Speaker 3: Well, I think it's something the President would be quite
- 0:21Speaker 3: interested in calling them to do. I will get ahead
- 0:24Speaker 3: of him on that, but certainly it's an idea that
- 0:27Speaker 3: I know that he has in something that I think
- 0:29Speaker 3: you'll hear more from him on.
- 0:31Speaker 4: You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben Ferguson.
- 0:34Speaker 5: Good Tuesday morning. Nice have you with us on the
- 0:37Speaker 5: forty seven Morning Up. Baby, We've got two big stories
- 0:39Speaker 5: for you this morning. First up, the President and I
- 0:42Speaker 5: says of America has new statements on Iran and it
- 0:45Speaker 5: can change everything overnight. Plus Secretary of State Marco Rubio,
- 0:51Speaker 5: he's now on record talking about what's next, including the
- 0:54Speaker 5: straight up Hormuz. But before we get to that, I
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- 2:40Speaker 5: forty seven Morning Update and it starts right.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Now, story number one.
- 2:44Speaker 5: Welcome back. It is the Ben Ferguson Show. It is
- 2:47Speaker 5: nice to have you with us. Donald Trump has come
- 2:49Speaker 5: out talking about who he's talking to in Iran, the
- 2:53Speaker 5: new regime they are in place, and the President also
- 2:56Speaker 5: making it very clear if they do not agree with
- 2:58Speaker 5: the negotiations with the America, we will blow up their
- 3:01Speaker 5: power infrastructure easily. They better make a deal. President Trump
- 3:07Speaker 5: suggesting in a message on Monday morning that a new
- 3:11Speaker 5: and more reasonable regime has taken over Iran and is
- 3:14Speaker 5: talking with Washington, DC. He warned yet again he is
- 3:18Speaker 5: willing to obliterate Iran's energy infrastructure his exact words, if
- 3:22Speaker 5: the talks do not lead to a durable agreement. Trump
- 3:26Speaker 5: made the declaration a message on his website True Social
- 3:30Speaker 5: What remains of the Iranian government after the elimination of
- 3:33Speaker 5: the Supreme leader has repeatedly denied Trump's claim that it
- 3:37Speaker 5: is in conversations with the American government, while also stating
- 3:41Speaker 5: that it has responded to America's proposals, which would be
- 3:45Speaker 5: impossible without a conversation. Now, President Trump smiling through that
- 3:50Speaker 5: in a statement saying that not only is America pursuing
- 3:54Speaker 5: regime change in Iran, but the regime change has already happened,
- 3:58Speaker 5: saying the United States of Americas andious discussions with a
- 4:01Speaker 5: new and more reasonable regime to end our military operations
- 4:06Speaker 5: in Iran. He followed up that comment with a threat.
- 4:10Speaker 5: Great progress has been made, but if for any reason
- 4:13Speaker 5: a deal is not shortly reached, which it probably will be,
- 4:17Speaker 5: and if the Hormuz Strait is not immediately open for business,
- 4:21Speaker 5: we will conclude our lovely stay in Iran by blowing
- 4:24Speaker 5: up and completely obliterating all of their electric generating plants,
- 4:29Speaker 5: oil wells, and carg island, and possibly all desalization plants,
- 4:36Speaker 5: which we have purposely not yet touched quote unquote. The
- 4:41Speaker 5: President went on to say this will be in retribution
- 4:44Speaker 5: for our many soldiers and others that Iran has butchered
- 4:48Speaker 5: and killed over the regime's forty seven year reign of terror.
- 4:52Speaker 5: Thank you for your attention to this matter. Now President
- 4:56Speaker 5: Trump is seriously weighing also a military operation. We're being
- 4:59Speaker 5: told to extract nearly one thousand pounds of highly enriched
- 5:03Speaker 5: uranium from Iran. And While the Iranian government has not
- 5:07Speaker 5: responded directly to Trump's statement at press time, the Foreign
- 5:11Speaker 5: Ministry spokesman confirmed on Monday that Iran had received and
- 5:16Speaker 5: was contemplating negotiation messages from the United States. At the
- 5:21Speaker 5: same time, that individual also dispaired the proposals as being unrealistic, illogical,
- 5:27Speaker 5: and excessive, but his statement nonetheless confirmed the existence of
- 5:32Speaker 5: some form of communication between individuals and power in Iran
- 5:36Speaker 5: and the White House, specifically, Donald Trump quote, our position
- 5:41Speaker 5: is clear. We are under military aggression. Therefore, all our
- 5:46Speaker 5: efforts and strengths are focused on defending ourselves, according to
- 5:50Speaker 5: translation by the Saudi outlet. There the government of also
- 5:54Speaker 5: Pakistan claimed last week that it was mediating talks between
- 5:58Speaker 5: America and Iran, handing Tehran a fifteen point proposal from
- 6:03Speaker 5: the White House. Trump shortly thereafter claimed that Iran quote
- 6:07Speaker 5: gave us most to the points, and that he would
- 6:09Speaker 5: be asking for a couple of other things. The president
- 6:13Speaker 5: also announced that he would not target any energy infrastructure
- 6:16Speaker 5: Iran through April the sixth, that would be Easter Sunday.
- 6:20Speaker 5: Talks are ongoing and despite erroneous statements to the contrary
- 6:24Speaker 5: by the fake news media and others, they are going
- 6:26Speaker 5: very well. The president said, thank you for your attention
- 6:29Speaker 5: to this matter. He also claimed that Iran was begging
- 6:33Speaker 5: for a deal, contrary to the declarations in Iranian state media,
- 6:38Speaker 5: clearly to keep the people in Iran in line. Also
- 6:42Speaker 5: indicating the existence of talks and those talks actually being
- 6:45Speaker 5: very real, was the head of the International Atomic Energy
- 6:49Speaker 5: Agency known as the IAEA, who told Italian media on
- 6:53Speaker 5: Wednesday that talks about the Iran war would take place
- 6:57Speaker 5: in Pakistan as early as this past weekend. Another example
- 7:02Speaker 5: of confirmation. Three weeks of war have left their mark,
- 7:06Speaker 5: which caused a lot of damage affected Iran's economic, energy
- 7:11Speaker 5: and productive infrastructure. This will make the conversation quote a
- 7:15Speaker 5: little bit different now. Pakistan did host talks on the
- 7:19Speaker 5: Iran war this weekend, but reports indicated that neither Iran
- 7:23Speaker 5: nor the United States of America quote participated. Instead, the
- 7:27Speaker 5: event offered an opportunity for Pakistan to discuss the war
- 7:31Speaker 5: with officials from Saudi Arabia and Turkey, as well as Egypt. Now,
- 7:35Speaker 5: according to the Egyptian Foreign Minister, the objective of the
- 7:38Speaker 5: talks is to de escalate tension and encouraging negotiating process
- 7:42Speaker 5: between Iran the United States of America to spare the
- 7:45Speaker 5: region comprehensive chaos. The Pakistani government also added that while
- 7:51Speaker 5: Iran did not directly participate, Pakistani officials had a phone
- 7:55Speaker 5: call with the Iranian Foreign minister to discuss Tehran's position. Now,
- 8:00Speaker 5: most of Iran's response to the current hostilities by the
- 8:03Speaker 5: United States has been to targets its neighboring countries with
- 8:07Speaker 5: missile and drone attacks, including Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Other
- 8:10Speaker 5: countries arena his bomb include Kuwait, Qatar, the UAE, Israel, Cyprus.
- 8:17Speaker 5: Iranian officials have claimed the strikes are intended to target
- 8:20Speaker 5: American and Israeli sites, but in reality they are targeting
- 8:24Speaker 5: a variety of civilian sites instead, including energy facilities in
- 8:29Speaker 5: many of the Gulf states.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Next story number two, which brings us to.
- 8:33Speaker 5: A one on one interview done on Good Morning America
- 8:36Speaker 5: on Monday morning with Secretary of State Marco Rubio. I
- 8:40Speaker 5: think it's incredibly important you hear what Marco had to say.
- 8:44Speaker 5: Take a listen to the interview.
- 8:45Speaker 6: Woubio, mister secretary, thank you for joining us this morning.
- 8:48Speaker 6: Let's talk about the President's comments overnight talking about taking
- 8:51Speaker 6: the oil on carg Island. How would he do this?
- 8:54Speaker 6: Why would he do this? Won't it take ground troops?
- 8:57Speaker 7: Well, first of all, it's important to remember the objectives
- 8:59Speaker 7: of this off from the very beginning where we were
- 9:01Speaker 7: going to We are destroying Iran's navy. We are destroying
- 9:05Speaker 7: their ability to their missile launchers by a significant percentage.
- 9:08Speaker 7: We're going to wipe out their defense industrial base, meaning
- 9:10Speaker 7: their ability to make new missiles and new drones in
- 9:13Speaker 7: the future. Because oppose a great threat to the region.
- 9:16Speaker 7: This Iran that you're seeing now, this is Iran at
- 9:18Speaker 7: its weakest point. Imagine them two years from now if
- 9:21Speaker 7: they had thousands of more missiles, the thousands of more
- 9:23Speaker 7: missile launchers and factories to make even more. That was
- 9:26Speaker 7: an unacceptable risk. It needed to be addressed, and President
- 9:29Speaker 7: Trump is addressing it now. They are making threats about
- 9:32Speaker 7: controlling the Horrmue Straits and perpetuity creating a tolling system
- 9:36Speaker 7: and the like. That's not going to be allowed to happen.
- 9:38Speaker 7: And the President has a number of options available to
- 9:41Speaker 7: him if he so chooses to prevent that from happening.
- 9:43Speaker 2: It happening.
- 9:44Speaker 7: Obviously, I'm not going to discuss what those options are,
- 9:46Speaker 7: and we're not going to discuss military tactics. The Department
- 9:50Speaker 7: of War would be in charge of those things. I'd
- 9:52Speaker 7: refer you to them, but obviously they're not going to
- 9:53Speaker 7: discuss it with you either. But there is a way
- 9:56Speaker 7: forward here to achieve our objectives. We are going to
- 9:58Speaker 7: achieve our objectives or weeks, not months.
- 10:01Speaker 6: Well, let's talk about taking the oil, because the President
- 10:03Speaker 6: laid out that objective last night, and taking the oil
- 10:06Speaker 6: will take ground troops, won't it.
- 10:08Speaker 7: Well, again, the Iranians are threatening that they're going to
- 10:11Speaker 7: set up some permanent system in the Straits of Hormuz
- 10:13Speaker 7: where they get to decide who goes through international waterways.
- 10:16Speaker 2: That will never be allowed to happen. By the way,
- 10:18Speaker 2: the rest.
- 10:18Speaker 7: Of the world should take note of that they have
- 10:20Speaker 7: more at stake there than we do. We get very
- 10:22Speaker 7: little of our energy in this country coming through the
- 10:24Speaker 7: Straits of hormones.
- 10:25Speaker 2: The rest of the world gets a lot more.
- 10:27Speaker 7: That said, the President has several options at his disposal,
- 10:31Speaker 7: and the Department of Wars preparing optionality for the President
- 10:34Speaker 7: for this and various other contingencies that might arise. That's
- 10:37Speaker 7: what always needs to happen situations like this. But what
- 10:40Speaker 7: I want the American people and the people watching this
- 10:42Speaker 7: broadcast to know is that fundamentally what this is about
- 10:45Speaker 7: is the destruction of their air force, which has been
- 10:47Speaker 7: largely achieved, the destruction of their navy, which has been
- 10:50Speaker 7: largely achieved, the destruction of their factories that they make
- 10:53Speaker 7: all these weapons with, which is we're well on our
- 10:56Speaker 7: way to achieving. And a substantial reduction in the number
- 10:59Speaker 7: of missile launchers that they have so that they cannot
- 11:01Speaker 7: continue to threaten their neighbors in the future. All of
- 11:03Speaker 7: those objectives are being met ahead honor, ahead of schedule,
- 11:07Speaker 7: and should be able to achieve in a matter of weeks.
- 11:10Speaker 6: As you're speaking, though, the President is expanding the objectives.
- 11:13Speaker 6: Just a couple of minutes ago, he put out his
- 11:16Speaker 6: post on True Social saying that we're in discussions now
- 11:19Speaker 6: with a new and more reasonable regime in Iran. But
- 11:21Speaker 6: he also added that if those discussions don't yield fruit,
- 11:25Speaker 6: the United States will blow up and completelybliterate all of
- 11:28Speaker 6: their electric generating plants, all their oil wells and carg island,
- 11:32Speaker 6: and possibly all desalinization plants, which we have purposely not
- 11:35Speaker 6: yet touched, is what he said. That's a great expansion
- 11:38Speaker 6: of the objectives.
- 11:39Speaker 7: Well, well, I think the first point the president makes
- 11:41Speaker 7: is he prefers diplomacy. As I said, those efforts are nascent.
- 11:45Speaker 7: There is messages being ready laid back and forth, some
- 11:47Speaker 7: conversations going on, including through intermediaries, and he always prefers that. Look,
- 11:51Speaker 7: if the Iranian regime had come forward at any point
- 11:54Speaker 7: in the past and said we're going to walk away
- 11:56Speaker 7: from our nuclear ambitions, We're going to do nuclear energy
- 11:59Speaker 7: the way every other country in the world, primarily almost
- 12:02Speaker 7: every other country in the world does it, and that
- 12:03Speaker 7: is through a peaceful means in which you bring in
- 12:05Speaker 7: the fuel and it's.
- 12:06Speaker 2: Supervised and so forth.
- 12:08Speaker 7: We're going to stop supporting terrorist groups across the region.
- 12:11Speaker 2: Look at this region.
- 12:12Speaker 7: Every single terrorist group in this region has a link
- 12:14Speaker 7: to the Iranian regime, every single one. The Huthis hes
- 12:18Speaker 7: belah Hamas the Shia militias that are attacking everyone out
- 12:21Speaker 7: of a rock, Every single one of these groups, and
- 12:23Speaker 7: all the destabilization in this region tracks directly back to
- 12:27Speaker 7: the Iranian regime. Those things have to be addressed. And
- 12:29Speaker 7: if Iron had been willing to address to us in
- 12:31Speaker 7: the past, we wouldn't be having this interview on this
- 12:33Speaker 7: topic right now. Their refusal to do so, and they're
- 12:36Speaker 7: continuing move towards one day acquiring a nuclear capability. These
- 12:40Speaker 7: people are lunatics. They are insane. They are religious zelots
- 12:44Speaker 7: who can never be allowed to possess a nuclear weapon
- 12:46Speaker 7: because they have an apocalyptic vision of the future. And
- 12:48Speaker 7: all of their neighbors know that, by the way, which
- 12:50Speaker 7: is why all of their neighbors have been supportive of
- 12:52Speaker 7: the efforts work.
- 12:53Speaker 6: You call them lunatics with the President just had this
- 12:56Speaker 6: post where he says, we're in discussions with a new
- 12:58Speaker 6: and more reasonable regime. Let me try to pain you
- 13:00Speaker 6: down on that. Who is this new and more reasonable
- 13:03Speaker 6: regime is The United States is in direct contact with them?
- 13:06Speaker 7: Well, I'm not going to disclose to you who those
- 13:08Speaker 7: people are because if probably would get them in trouble
- 13:09Speaker 7: with some other groups.
- 13:10Speaker 2: Of people inside of Iran.
- 13:11Speaker 7: Look, there's some fractures going on there internally, and at
- 13:14Speaker 7: the end of the day, I think that if there
- 13:16Speaker 7: are people in Iran who now, given everything that's happened,
- 13:19Speaker 7: are willing to move in a different direction for their country,
- 13:21Speaker 7: that would be great. Imagine in Iran that and instead
- 13:24Speaker 7: of spending their wealth billions of dollars supporting terrorists or weapons,
- 13:28Speaker 7: had spent that money helping the people of Iran, you
- 13:30Speaker 7: have a much different country.
- 13:31Speaker 2: So we are.
- 13:32Speaker 7: Always hopeful that that would exist over there. It's unfortunate.
- 13:35Speaker 7: The people of Iran are incredible people. The people who
- 13:37Speaker 7: lead them this clerical regime that is the problem. And
- 13:40Speaker 7: if there are new people now in charge who have
- 13:42Speaker 7: a more reasonable vision of the future, that would be
- 13:44Speaker 7: good news for us, for them, for the entire world.
- 13:47Speaker 7: But we also have to be prepared for the possibility,
- 13:50Speaker 7: maybe even the probability that that is not the case.
- 13:53Speaker 6: But the reston said they are. Is that the case
- 13:55Speaker 6: or is it not? I'm just trying to get some
- 13:56Speaker 6: clarity on that.
- 13:58Speaker 7: Well, what I mean is, yeah, look, so you have
- 13:59Speaker 7: people that are saying some of the right things privately.
- 14:02Speaker 7: Obviously they're not going to put it out in press releases,
- 14:04Speaker 7: and what they say to you or put out there
- 14:05Speaker 7: for the world doesn't necessarily reflect what they're saying in
- 14:08Speaker 7: our conversations. But at the end of the day, we
- 14:10Speaker 7: have to see if these people end up being the
- 14:12Speaker 7: ones in charge, seeing if they're the ones that have
- 14:14Speaker 7: the power to deliver.
- 14:15Speaker 2: We're going to test it. We are hopeful that that's
- 14:17Speaker 2: the case.
- 14:17Speaker 7: There are clearly people They are talking to us in
- 14:19Speaker 7: ways that previous people in charge and Iran have not
- 14:23Speaker 7: spoken to us in the past. Some of the things
- 14:25Speaker 7: they're willing to do, some of the things they're saying
- 14:27Speaker 7: they're willing to do.
- 14:28Speaker 2: Obviously they have to go do it.
- 14:29Speaker 7: We're going to test that proposition very strongly because we
- 14:32Speaker 7: always prefer to settle things through negotiation and diplomacy, but
- 14:36Speaker 7: we also have to be prepared for the fact that
- 14:38Speaker 7: that effort might fail. That we are dealing with a
- 14:40Speaker 7: forty seven year old regime that still has a lot
- 14:43Speaker 7: of people involved in it who aren't necessarily big fans
- 14:46Speaker 7: of diplomacy or peace.
- 14:47Speaker 6: And if it fails, the war expands.
- 14:49Speaker 2: What's that I'm sorry, if it fails, the war expands.
- 14:52Speaker 7: Well, that the war is about this operation, okay, and
- 14:55Speaker 7: that's what this is. It's about very specific objectives. The
- 14:58Speaker 7: President laid them out on the first night of the operation.
- 15:00Speaker 7: I'll repeat them to you now because I hear a
- 15:02Speaker 7: lot of talk about we don't know what the clear
- 15:03Speaker 7: objectives are here. They are, you should write them down.
- 15:06Speaker 7: Number one, the destruction of their air force. Number two,
- 15:09Speaker 7: the destruction of their navy. Number three, the severe diminishing
- 15:13Speaker 7: of their missile launching capability. And number four the destruction
- 15:16Speaker 7: of their factory so they can't make more missiles and
- 15:18Speaker 7: more drones to threaten us in the future. All of
- 15:21Speaker 7: this so that they can never hide behind it to
- 15:23Speaker 7: acquire a nuclear weapon. That was our objective from the beginning,
- 15:27Speaker 7: that remains our objective. Now we are on pace, and
- 15:30Speaker 7: in fact they're head of schedule in some of those things,
- 15:32Speaker 7: and we are going to achieve those things in a
- 15:33Speaker 7: number of weeks, not in a number of months.
- 15:35Speaker 6: Mister check Jerry, thanks for time this morning.
- 15:38Speaker 5: It's really interesting to see how much the media is
- 15:40Speaker 5: willing to change, alter, and lie to you to try
- 15:44Speaker 5: to make you think that somehow what we're doing in
- 15:46Speaker 5: Iran is a failure, when clearly, in reality it's a
- 15:49Speaker 5: massive success already and the Secretary of Stateming it very
- 15:53Speaker 5: clear that Trump Doctrine is working.
- 15:55Speaker 4: Thank you for listening to the forty seven Morning Update
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