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Dems freak as Kyrsten Sinema leaves the party & AZ Gov. Elect Katie Hobbs helped censor social media speech PLUS Republicans promise MAJOR investigations on Hunter Biden! · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Shocking the world, and that's the best way I can
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  Speaker 1: describe it. Christen Cinema, who is a Democrat in Arizona,
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  Speaker 1: has just left the Democratic Party as they were celebrating
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  Speaker 1: for barely twenty four hours picking up a fifty one
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  Speaker 1: forty nine majority in the Senate. This will be a
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  Speaker 1: big change that fifty one will go back to fifty
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  Speaker 1: there will be one independent. The questions who is she
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  Speaker 1: going to caucus with and who is she going to
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  Speaker 1: vote for in the majority race. There Cinema saying I'm
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  Speaker 1: leaving the Democratic Party and becoming an independent. Won't be
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  Speaker 1: stuck into one party's demands of following without thinking. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this is obviously breaking news. This is everything that people
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  Speaker 1: are talking about because this would change the Democrats from
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  Speaker 1: the fifty one forty nine majority to now going back
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  Speaker 1: to basically almost a virtual tie. During an interview was
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  Speaker 1: Senn Jake's Tapper release this morning Arizona Center, Christen Cinema
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  Speaker 1: announced she's leaving the Democratic Party and becoming an independent
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  Speaker 1: and by doing so, quote should be able to show
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  Speaker 1: up to work every day as an independent and not
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  Speaker 1: to be stuck into one party's demands following without thinking
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to play this for you. Is it just
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  Speaker 1: happened moments ago on CNN. You're here to make a
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  Speaker 1: significant announcement. I've registered as an Arizona Independent. And I
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  Speaker 1: know some people might be a little bit surprised by this,
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  Speaker 1: but actually I think it makes a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 1: You know, a growing number of Arizona opponents and people
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  Speaker 1: like me just don't feel like we fit neatly into
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  Speaker 1: one party's box or the other, and so, like many
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  Speaker 1: across the state in the nation, I've decided to leave
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  Speaker 1: that partisan process and really just focus on the work
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  Speaker 1: that I think matters to Arizona into our country, which
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  Speaker 1: is solving problems and getting things done. So your voting
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  Speaker 1: record is pretty capital d democratic. I mean, your views
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  Speaker 1: are generally that a moderate centrist Democrat. How does leaving
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  Speaker 1: the party change how you do your job? Well, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think anything will change about how I do my job.
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  Speaker 1: Arizonan sent me to the United States Senate to be
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  Speaker 1: an independent voice for our state, and I'll continue doing that.
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  Speaker 1: What I think is important about this decision and this
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  Speaker 1: move is that I'll be able to show up to
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  Speaker 1: work every day as an independent and not be stuck
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  Speaker 1: into one party's demands of following without thinking. And as
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  Speaker 1: we've seen in recent years, both parties have created this
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  Speaker 1: kind of requirement or a pull towards the edges that
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  Speaker 1: you just unthinkingly support all of one party's viewpoints. It's
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  Speaker 1: made it difficult to find folks who are willing to
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  Speaker 1: work together and solve problems. Now, as you know, Jake,
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  Speaker 1: we've been able to do a lot of bipartisan work
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  Speaker 1: over the last couple of years and incredible be proud
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  Speaker 1: of that. And I think it's important for folks across
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  Speaker 1: my state and frankly across the country to say, yep,
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  Speaker 1: there's someone. There's someone that's kind of like me, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: fit neatly into one box or the other, but is
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  Speaker 1: standing up for their values, for what they believe in,
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  Speaker 1: and is doing it without trying to get one over
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  Speaker 1: on the other party or beat the other guy. So
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about practically what this means. Because you're the
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  Speaker 1: chair of at least two subcommittees, you're a member of
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  Speaker 1: a number of important committees, including Veterans affairs, Does this
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  Speaker 1: mean that you're no longer going to be in those
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  Speaker 1: positions because you're no longer a Democrat and the Democrats
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  Speaker 1: control the Senate. Well, I intend to maintain my position
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  Speaker 1: on my committees and keep doing the work that I've
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  Speaker 1: been doing for Arizona. So I don't think that things
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  Speaker 1: will change in terms of how I operate or the
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  Speaker 1: work that I do in the United States Senate. So Ever,
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  Speaker 1: since Raphael Warnock Senator Warnock was reelected earlier this week,
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  Speaker 1: the balance of power right now is fifty one Democrats
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  Speaker 1: or fifty one votes for the Democratic Party. That includes
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  Speaker 1: two independents, Angus King of Maine and Bernie Sanders of Vermont.
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  Speaker 1: But that's fifty forty nine. What you're doing today doesn't
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  Speaker 1: change that. It's still basically going to be fifty one
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  Speaker 1: forty nine. Well, I know you have to ask that question, Jake, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but that's kind of a DC thing to worry about.
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  Speaker 1: What I'm really focused on is just making sure that
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing what I think comports with my values and
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  Speaker 1: the values of Arizonans. So when I come to work
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  Speaker 1: each day, it'll be the same. I'm going to still
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  Speaker 1: come to work and hopefully serve on the same committees
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  Speaker 1: I've been serving on and continue to work well with
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  Speaker 1: my colleagues of both political parties, and I'm not really
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  Speaker 1: spending much time worrying about what the mechanics look like
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  Speaker 1: for Washington, DC. And to be honest, Jake, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think anyone in Arizona is caring about that either. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't think things will change much for me, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't think things will change much for Arizonans. Arizona
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  Speaker 1: senator makes the change days after the Democrats pick up
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  Speaker 1: fifty one majority. Now she was counted in that number
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  Speaker 1: of the fifty one, so that means they dropped out
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  Speaker 1: of fifty forty nine. She is now an independent. During
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  Speaker 1: this interview that was just released, quote, she said, I'll
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  Speaker 1: be able to show up to work every day as
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  Speaker 1: an independent and not be stuck into one party's demands.
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  Speaker 1: Following without thinking, she said she's registered as an Arizona Independent.
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  Speaker 1: And I know some people might be a little bit
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  Speaker 1: surprised by this, but actually I think it makes a
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  Speaker 1: lot of sense. A growing number of Arizonas and people
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  Speaker 1: like me just don't feel like we fit neatly into
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  Speaker 1: one party's box or the other, and so, like many
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  Speaker 1: across the state in the nation, I've decided to leave
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  Speaker 1: the Parson process and really focus on the work that
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  Speaker 1: I think matters to Arizona and to our country, which
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  Speaker 1: is solving problems and getting things done. This is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a huge blow to the Democratic Party. Understand
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  Speaker 1: that first. Okay, this is going to be a massive blow.
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  Speaker 1: Here is the second part of what she had to
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  Speaker 1: say about her leaving the Democratic Party. This is again
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  Speaker 1: worst case scenario news for the Democrats. To take a listen.
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  Speaker 1: It's also an unusual time because the Democrats in Washington
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  Speaker 1: feel really good right now. They actually picked up a
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  Speaker 1: Senate seat and picked up some governor seats. It's the
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  Speaker 1: first time the party that controls the White House actually
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  Speaker 1: gained Senate and governor seats since nineteen thirty four. The
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  Speaker 1: wave that was supposed to come, the red wave, didn't
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  Speaker 1: actually happen. Kevin McCarthy or the Republicans. Maybe Kevin McCarthy
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  Speaker 1: will be the Speaker, but either way, the Republicans will
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  Speaker 1: control the House, but not with the margins they were expecting.
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  Speaker 1: This is going to disappoint a lot of Democrats and
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  Speaker 1: they're also going to feel like they don't understand why
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  Speaker 1: would you do this at a time when the Democratic
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  Speaker 1: Party is having a good week. Well, I think folks
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  Speaker 1: at home in Arizona have known me for a very
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  Speaker 1: long time and they know who I am. I've always
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  Speaker 1: been someone who is focused on getting results, getting things done,
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  Speaker 1: and I've never fit neatly into any party box really tried.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to, and I think that's reflective of
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  Speaker 1: how most Arizonans live. You know, Arizonans who aren't affiliated
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  Speaker 1: with either party are often the largest group of voters
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  Speaker 1: in Arizona, and even those who are affiliated with parties
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  Speaker 1: often fine that they don't fit one hundred percent into
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  Speaker 1: that box. The reality is is that when we get
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  Speaker 1: up in the morning, we don't really think about partisanship.
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  Speaker 1: Most people don't wake up and think, Okay, well, I've
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  Speaker 1: got to get this Democratic breakfast on the table. I
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  Speaker 1: got to get in my Republican car and go to work.
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  Speaker 1: That's not how real life is. I know it is
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  Speaker 1: in this town, but in the rest of the country,
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  Speaker 1: people are just living their lives and so they're not
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  Speaker 1: thinking about who's winning and who's losing. But that's what
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  Speaker 1: the parties are thinking about, is how do we get
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  Speaker 1: one over on this guy, How do we ensure that
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  Speaker 1: we're punishing them, How do we continue to win. And
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  Speaker 1: what I'm really focused on, I think the proof is
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  Speaker 1: in the pudding of the work I've done in the Senate.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really focused on getting results, like actually solving problems,
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  Speaker 1: and so, you know, removing myself from the partisan structure.
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  Speaker 1: Not only is it true to who I am and
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  Speaker 1: how I operate, I also think it'll provide a place
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  Speaker 1: of belonging for many folks across the state in the
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  Speaker 1: country who also are tired of the partisanship. Well, there's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a lot of noise about this from
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  Speaker 1: the Democrats, from progressives, from the left. You know this
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  Speaker 1: that because of your position working with Senator Joe Mansion
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  Speaker 1: of West Virginia to push back on some of the efforts,
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  Speaker 1: the legislative efforts and change them and moderate them, You've
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  Speaker 1: already been a target of the left and people have
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  Speaker 1: been very critical of you. They're going to call you
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  Speaker 1: every name in the book after this comes out. They're
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  Speaker 1: going to call you a traitor, They're going to call
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  Speaker 1: you an ingrate. What are you going to say, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think I'll do what I always do with Jake,
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  Speaker 1: which has keep doing the work that I know is
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  Speaker 1: important for my state. You know, I just not worried
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  Speaker 1: about folks who may not like this approach. What I
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  Speaker 1: am worried about is continuing to do what's right for
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  Speaker 1: my state. And there are folks who certainly don't like
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  Speaker 1: my approach. We hear about it a lot, but the
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  Speaker 1: proof is in the pudding. You know, in the last
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  Speaker 1: few years in the Senate, as you and I have
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  Speaker 1: just mentioned, I've been honored to lead historic efforts from
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  Speaker 1: infrastructure to gun violence prevention, to protecting religious liberty and
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  Speaker 1: helping LGBT families feel secure, to the Chips and Science Bill,
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  Speaker 1: to the work we've done on veterans issues. The list
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  Speaker 1: is really long, and so I think that the results
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  Speaker 1: speak for themselves. It's okay if some people aren't comfortable
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  Speaker 1: with that approach. Shocking interview here, the Democrats going to
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  Speaker 1: be furious. As he just mentioned there, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: anything will change about how I do my job. She said.
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  Speaker 1: Also say, now, as you know, Jake, we've been able
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  Speaker 1: to do a lot of bipartisan work over the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of years. I'm not sure that's true, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: but let's just go with it for a second. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm incredibly proud of that I think it's important for
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  Speaker 1: folks across my state, friends across the country say yep,
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  Speaker 1: there's someone that's kind of like me. Doesn't fit neatly
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  Speaker 1: into one box or the other, but it's standing up
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  Speaker 1: for their values. Cinema also say that she intends to
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  Speaker 1: maintain my position on the committees and keep doing the
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  Speaker 1: work that I've been doing for Arizona. So I think
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  Speaker 1: that things will change in terms of how I operate
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  Speaker 1: or work that I do in the United States Senate.
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  Speaker 1: After Tapper, as you heard, they're asked her if her
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  Speaker 1: switch will change the balance of the Senate being fifty
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  Speaker 1: forty nine with the other two independents voting with the Democrat.
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  Speaker 1: Cinema responded, I know you have to ask that question, Jake,
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  Speaker 1: but I think that's kind of a DC thing to
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  Speaker 1: worry about now, it's not really it's control of Congress,
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  Speaker 1: so that's stupid to say that. But whatever what she
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  Speaker 1: will do, we don't know yet. This is a very
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  Speaker 1: interest interesting move. Arizona Governor let Kitty Hobbs now been
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  Speaker 1: outed helped censor social media speech while Secretary of State.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. While serving as Secretary of State. Governor elect
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  Speaker 1: Kitty Hobbs played a role in the censorship of social
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  Speaker 1: media speech, according to documents submitted as part of discovery
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  Speaker 1: in the case Missouri v. Biden. Hobbs office reached out
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  Speaker 1: to the Center for Internet Security CIS, a nonprofit that
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  Speaker 1: acts as a mediator between government and seas and social
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  Speaker 1: media companies, to request a review of Twitter's post claiming
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  Speaker 1: that Arizona's voter registration system was owned and operated by
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  Speaker 1: foreign actors. This is an attempt to further undermine confidence
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  Speaker 1: in the election institutions in Arizona, hobbs office stated at
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  Speaker 1: the time. Within thirty minutes, Twitter told CIS that it
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  Speaker 1: would escalate their issue with the posts. About seven hours later,
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  Speaker 1: Twitter notified CIS that it deleted the offensive offending posts.
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  Speaker 1: The entire exchange took place on January the seventh, last year,
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  Speaker 1: the day after the Capitol riots. Both tweets were removed
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  Speaker 1: from service. Stated Twitter, now we have the breaking news
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  Speaker 1: emails league to reveal that the Arizona Secretary of State,
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  Speaker 1: Kitty Hobbs, was in regular communication with Twitter, telling them
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  Speaker 1: literally who to censor now. She's going to be the governor.
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  Speaker 1: In the months following the exchange, revealed in court filings,
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  Speaker 1: Hobbes focused on publicizing her view of danger that misinformation
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  Speaker 1: and disinformation pose. She even put out tweets like this,
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  Speaker 1: It said, lies, conspiracy theories, and disinformation posed a real
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: threat to our democracy. She tweeted that last April, until
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  Speaker 1: the legislatures wanted to commit to funding robust public education
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  Speaker 1: efforts around our elections, open and transparent partnerships like this
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  Speaker 1: will continue to be vital. Hobbes also alluded to her
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  Speaker 1: work in eradicating speech deemed misinformation or disinformation while on
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  Speaker 1: the campaign trail last September, saying I fought against misinformation
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  Speaker 1: and even death threats to defend Arizona elections. Hobbs wrote,
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  Speaker 1: always fight the spread of misinformation, never back down from
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  Speaker 1: telling the truth. We can't let the conspiracy theories theorists win,
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  Speaker 1: she went on to say. Now. After the discovery of
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  Speaker 1: Hobbes's intervention in social media speech went viral over the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: Hobb's team engaged with mainstream media outlets account of the controversy.
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  Speaker 1: Ali Bones Hobbes, Assistant Secretary of State and incoming chief
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  Speaker 1: of Staff, shared a statement with various outlets asserting that
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  Speaker 1: it was the Secretary of state's job to not only
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  Speaker 1: inform voters, but to get rid of what they deemed
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  Speaker 1: not to be true. Bones dismissed concerns about the government's
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  Speaker 1: control over online speech, insisting that the CIS arrangement was
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  Speaker 1: the norm, saying, quote, one of the ways we make
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  Speaker 1: sure that voters are informed is by working to counter
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  Speaker 1: disinformation online that can confuse voters. Bones derive the GOP
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  Speaker 1: leaders who called for an investigation into the incoming governor Hobbs,
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  Speaker 1: claiming they were taking the speech monitoring arrangement out of context.
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  Speaker 1: The email exchange is from January of twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 1: screenshots are not are out there. Not only was it
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  Speaker 1: taken entirely out of contexts they claim it has nothing
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  Speaker 1: to do with this year's midterm elections. Bones said this
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  Speaker 1: yet another example of conspiracy theorists trying to create chaos
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  Speaker 1: and confusion by casting doubt over our election system. It's
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  Speaker 1: unfair to Arizona voters and it's harmful to our democracy.
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  Speaker 1: Bones told Axios that seeking to remove the Verify Belief
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  Speaker 1: false information is not silencing dissent. CIS operates as a
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  Speaker 1: middleman of sorts for government agencies or officials and social
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  Speaker 1: media companies. Its Election Infrastructure Information Sharing Analysts Center, also
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  Speaker 1: known as l I SAC, operates a situation awareness room
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  Speaker 1: to coordinate government and private companies concerning information dissemination and
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  Speaker 1: other election threats in the twenty twenty elections. Cis noted
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  Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty report that it leverage relationships with
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  Speaker 1: elected officials as its past and its past work and
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  Speaker 1: correcting election miss information to create the communications hub. They say,
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  Speaker 1: quote the groundbreaking single point of coordination to federal, state, local,
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  Speaker 1: and private partners allowed all relevant stakeholders to quickly review
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  Speaker 1: incoming information, established ground truths, respond accordingly to the threats.
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  Speaker 1: The SAC served as a central hall for election officials
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  Speaker 1: to report misinformation about the election infrastructure during the twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty general election. So they're proud of this, saying there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing wrong here, This is totally normal. Really, I want
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  Speaker 1: you to now hear what Senator Johnson was saying. I
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  Speaker 1: was going to play this a moment ago, but I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to tell you about Katie Hobbs and listening to
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  Speaker 1: the questions he was asked by Hannity about these bigger
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: issues with the Twitter files, the FBI, media and big
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  Speaker 1: tech are they all completed at working together. I would say, yes,
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  Speaker 1: take a listen. Ask you about this issue. How the
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: FBI on a weekly basis was warning big tech companies.
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  Speaker 1: I know you and Senator Grassley, you're going to have
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of FBI whistleblowers coming out and speaking publicly
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: and getting their testimony. But the FBI meeting weekly with
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: all these big tech companies warning them of a potential
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: hack and leak operation. We know that the former head
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: of site integrity for Twitter, guy by the name of
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Yol Roth, that he's testified under oath that in fact,
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  Speaker 1: the FBI specifically mentioned you might get information about Hunter Biden.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: But yet we know that the FBI had Hunter Biden's
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  Speaker 1: laptop for eleven months prior to the twenty twenty election.
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  Speaker 1: They knew what was in there, they had plenty of
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: time to vetted it and find out that it was
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: in fact his laptop. And then we're finding out why
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  Speaker 1: would the FBI be warning big tech companies not to
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  Speaker 1: report a story that they should have known by that
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  Speaker 1: point was true that that was Hunter's laptop. In other words,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: did the FBI put the finger on the scale like
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  Speaker 1: they did in twenty sixteen in order to help a
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  Speaker 1: Democratic presidential candidate. Yes, they did, and they did it
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  Speaker 1: way before October of twenty twenty. I mean, it certainly
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  Speaker 1: starts explaining why we received that unsolicited briefing from the
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  Speaker 1: FBI in August two thousand and six. They knew FBI
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  Speaker 1: knew that Chuck Grass and I were investigating Hunter Biden.
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  Speaker 1: So they're out there talking to Night only us, but
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  Speaker 1: also these social media companies and saying, you know, they're
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: just might be some hacking going on here of candidates,
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  Speaker 1: family members, and you know who knows they could take
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  Speaker 1: that hack material and turned into disinformation people like on
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  Speaker 1: Hunter Biden. They were already setting the stage because they
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: knew the Hunter Biden computers out there. They basically threatened
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: in a veiled attempt, or veiled way, mister mciaac. You know, boy,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: people at TAKA don't get in trouble, don't get hurt.
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  Speaker 1: And so they were just laying the groundwork in case
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  Speaker 1: that computer ever surfaced, to sabotage it by by labeling
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: it misinformation. You know, what was their coordination with the
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  Speaker 1: fifty one intelligence officials that wrote that letter that helped
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: interfere in our elections? So there's no doubt about that
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: this corruption was occurring all through twenty twenty. We had
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Democrats in Congress also trying to do everything they could
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  Speaker 1: undermine Senator Grassley's and my efforts. So I have no
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  Speaker 1: idea how coordinated, but sure seems pretty coordinated effort by
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  Speaker 1: Democrats in Congress, the FBI, the mainstream media, and the
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: social media companies. So did they if you use the
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: words of Elon Musk, he talked about, for example, the
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  Speaker 1: very definition if you're shutting down dissenting voices, it is,
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  Speaker 1: by its very definition, election interference. We know that the
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  Speaker 1: FBI was telling all of these big tech companies warning them, oh,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: they might have these hack and league operations. You got
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: to be on the lookout for it, and in fact,
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to disseminate information that turns out to
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  Speaker 1: be false. Now they had the laptop, did they not
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  Speaker 1: know after eleven months of having a laptop, now they've
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: had it three years, that in fact that it was
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: legitimately Hunter Biden's laptop? And shouldn't they have known? And
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: if they did know, why would they knowingly be lying
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  Speaker 1: to big tech companies about a story like that, Because
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: they're partisans and they're tipping the scales. And yes, they
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  Speaker 1: interfered in the twenty twenty election to a farger extent
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  Speaker 1: than anything Russia ever could have hoped to accomplish. And
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: quite honestly, Sean, by giving me that briefing in August
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  Speaker 1: and then leaking it and smearing me in May of
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, we also interfered in the Wisconsin Senate
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: election as well. So we've got a real problem in
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the FBI. But again, the media and big text social
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: media giants are also complicit and corrupt as well. This
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: is a much bigger story in just the Twitter files.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: By the way, Ron Johnson's right, this is much bigger
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: than the Twitter files. This was a coordinated effort that
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  Speaker 1: happened on a regular basis all across big tech from
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. That's just the truth. Also, other shocking
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: news with the Twitter files have been released Part two.
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  Speaker 1: No I and many other conservatives were not paranoid. We
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: were not diving into conspiracy theories. It was a fact
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: that we all knew was true. But now we have
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: the proof. Twitter was shadow banning and silencing conservatives on
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: a regular daily basis for years. They censored conservatives. They
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: silenced conservatives. They made it where they couldn't their tweets
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be seen. A new Twitter file investigation has revealed
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  Speaker 1: that many tools. There were many tools that the company
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  Speaker 1: executives employed to blacklist and shadow banned conservatives. So even
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  Speaker 1: though you had your account, no one was seeing what
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  Speaker 1: you were saying. The thread posted the elon Muss platform
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  Speaker 1: revealed that the internal Twitter name for shadow banning is
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: visibly filtering quote unquote released by former New York Times
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  Speaker 1: reporter Barry Weiss and yet another lengthy Twitter thread, the
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  Speaker 1: revelation on Thursday show that several mainstream conservative voices, from
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk to Dan Bongino were shadow banned by the
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  Speaker 1: social media company under the rubiks of visibly filtering or VF.
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  Speaker 1: At one point, Twitter even place Stanford professor a Stanford
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  Speaker 1: professor under the label trends blacklist. Why was that Stanford
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  Speaker 1: professor put under trends blacklists? Quote for arguing that coronavirus
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  Speaker 1: lockdowns would harm it children? Per Weiss, this is the
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  Speaker 1: reporter's words. Twitter once had a mission quote to give
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  Speaker 1: everyone the power to create and share ideas and information
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  Speaker 1: instantly without barriers along the way. Barriers, nevertheless, were erected.
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  Speaker 1: Take for example, Stanford's doctor j Bacharia, who argued that
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  Speaker 1: COVID lockdowns would harm children. Twitter secretly placed him on
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: a trends blacklist, which prevented his tweets from from twining
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: trending on the platform no matter what. You can also
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: consider the popular right wing talk show host Dan Bongino,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: who at one point was slapped with a search blacklist.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I mean you couldn't find him. Twitter set the account
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: of concerned activists Charlie Kirk to a setting they had
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: internally called do not amplify, so that you couldn't make
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: his points bigger than other people would actually see them.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: They had things like trends blacklists, and the list went
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: on and on. This was shocking. Twitter set the account,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: as I said, of conservative activists Charlie Kirk, to do
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: not amplify, so no matter what he shared, it wouldn't
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: get big as whist and multiple conservative commentators pointed out.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Twitter routinely denied shadow banning voices, especially based on political
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: viewpoints or ideology. A shadow banning might not be the
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: term that Twitter employed, the companies still perform these the
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: censorship practice under the banner of visibility filtering or VF
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: in their documents, they had a setting they could go
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: into their platform, click the VF button, and bam, you
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: lost your ability to reach society. According to Weiss, multiple
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: high level sources confirmed that visibility filtering took place. Quote
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: think about visibility filtering as being away for us to
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  Speaker 1: suppress what people see to different levels. It's a very
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  Speaker 1: powerful tool, That's what one senior employee is quoted as
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: having told Weiss. We control visibility quite a bit, and
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: we control the amplification of your content quite a bit,
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  Speaker 1: and normal people do not know how much we do,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: said one anonymous engineer, which two other Twitter employees also confirmed.
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  Speaker 1: Very Wise further profiled efforts by Twitter executives to censor
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  Speaker 1: accounts like libs of TikTok, which brightbart News is going
• 24:45
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  Speaker 1: Twitter safety executive Joel Roth, who quit after billionaire Elon
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  Speaker 1: Musk acquire The County, defended the platform's decision to censor
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  Speaker 1: to focus on this. They never would and they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have an uphill battle, but they're not going to back
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  Speaker 1: down from this. I want you to listen to what
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  Speaker 1: dueling investigations are going to work and what their goal
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  Speaker 1: is overall, on how they're going to have success or
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: even victory if you want to call it that. Take
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: a listen. Now that we know the FBI had this
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: laptop for eleven months, there's low hanging fruit crimes, but
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: that's not the big one. You said when you made
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: your announcement about your investigation. This is an investigation into
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: the President of the United States. That laptop implicates Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 1: We have photographs that proved that he was with Hunter
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: and his foreign business associates. We know that he went
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: and attended meetings with farign business associates and Hunter. We
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: know Hunter bitches and moans and groans and complaints. He's
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: paying Dad or Pops all this money. So the question
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: here is is this the biggest influence pedaling scandal Congress
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: is investigating. Absolutely, There's nothing like it in the history
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: of America. We've never had a family that has influenced
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: pedal to this degree. And if you look at the
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: whole purpose of what we're talking about today, it's because
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: this investigation of the Biden family influence pedaling. The evidence
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: is based a lot in part with what the documents
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: are and the data is on the laptop. So, Sean,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I'm breaking on your show tonight based on the internal
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: documents that Elon Musk released this weekend. The Oversight Committee
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: will be sending a letter tomorrow morning to the three
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Twitter employees Missus, Gaddy, Roth, and Baker that were implicated
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: in the cover up of the laptop story, three letters
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: requesting their presence in front of the Oversight Committee in January.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: But wasn't the FBI putting pressure on big tech companies? Oh,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: you're gonna try glad sir, right, And what we're going
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: to ask them is who was influencing your decision by
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Did you do this unilaterally or did you do this
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: based on what you were told from the Biden campaign,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: from the Democrat National Committee, or even worse, and as
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I suspect, from the FBI. This is going to be
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: an opportunity for the American people to hear directly from
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the three Twitter employees implicated in the data release that
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Elon Musk just dubbed this weekend. So they're going to
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: have a few weeks to get their stories start, and
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: they're going to be able to come under oath in
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: front of the House Oversight Committee and tell the American
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: people what really happened and why why were they so
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: intent on suppressing this story? And Jim Jordan as the
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: head of Judiciary, your investigation will be working in tandem
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: with Congressman Comer, because you're looking into whether or not,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: based on whistleblower testimony, among other things, whether or not
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: our FBI has been politicized and our Department of Justice weaponized.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: What is your take on the fact that they will
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: had weekly meetings warning the these big tech companies all
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: be on the lookout. They're probably going to give you
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: a hack material. Some of it may be about Hunter Biden.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Were they trying to prevent big tech from letting that
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: story go out? Why didn't they do anything for the
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: eleven months that they had the laptop themselves, they could
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: have been investigating all of this. So, Sean, the answer
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: to your question who at the FBI was responsible for
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: suppressing this story and going and briefing these big tech
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: platforms the answer to Clay's trust and who is that
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: key person? We know where to start, Timothy T. Bolt.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: That's where you start because a whistle blower FBI agent
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: as a whistle blower went the Senator Grassley and said,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: this is the guy who was pushing to suppress the
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's story. His name also came up with a
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: different whistle blower who came to us. So the place
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: you started with Timothy T. Bolt to get the answers.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: But here's the key fact. The guy that Jim Baker
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: that mister Coomber just mentioned. That's the key because Jim
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Baker was the chief counsel at the FBI back when
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: they spied on President Trump's campaign and then Jim Baker,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Shazam goes to Twitter and is their general counsel and
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: is the one who did the email saying, well, it's
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: reasonable to assume that this is a hacking operation and
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: therefore we can throttle back the story about the Hunter
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Biden laptop. So that's where you start, right Jim Baker
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: and Timothy T. Bolt, and we have been trying to
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: get mister t Bolt in for a deposition. We will
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: make sure that happens in January. Jamie's already working on
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: mister Baker. That's how you get to the bottom of this,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: and the way you stop it is to get the
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: facts everything out there, like Elon Musk is started, but
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: we're going to continue. You get the facts out there.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: That's the first step into making sure this kind of
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Bolognian garbage never happens again. Jim Jordan is Elon Musk
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: right when he says that when you shut down dissenting voices,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: that is by very definition election interference. You agree that
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: the media was complicent in lying to the American public
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: and acting as the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: And do you believe that the FBI is behind all
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: that pressure to prevent big Tech from publishing that story
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: to help Joe Biden get elected. Yeah, it's sure looks
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: because remember the fifty one former Intel officials send a
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: letter says this has all the classic gearmarks of a
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Russian disinformation operation. The real disinformation operation was the one
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: the FBI and Big Tech we're running on the American people,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: and Jim Baker was at the heart of it. So
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: let's get him in here to talk to Jamie and
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: his team, and then we'll get Timothy T. Bolt into
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: the Judiciary Committee to talk to him and get to
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: the bottom of it. As I said, so we get
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: the facts to the American people. Jim Colemo will give
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: you the last for tonight. Well, remember, Sean, the whole
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: purpose of this investigation, it's to determine whether or not
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: this White House has compromised when you look at all
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: the bad policies coming out of this White House, especially
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: with respect to things like energy policy, and the fact
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: that Biden's trying to embrace this GREENU deal. Who wants
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: the Green U deal more than anyone other than a
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: few liberals in California China. They want to put us
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: at a competitive disadvantage. So a lot of the bad
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: decisions this administration's making, maybe because they're compromised because of
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: the millions of dollars that they received through influenced peddling
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: from our adversaries in China, Russia and the Middle East.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: That's why we're investigating the Biden family, and that's why
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: we're gonna kick into high gears, have subpoena power and
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: the gavel. And you are investigating the President of the
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: United States for influenced peddalings. That correct, absolutely, that is
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: the investigation, Yes, sir, influenced peddling. Did you hear that?
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Influence pedaling? That is what's being investigated by James Coomer.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: These will be two different investigations doing investigations. Are they
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: important to this country? You better believe it. Now Democrats
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: are going to have to figure out what they're gonna
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: do here, and the media is trying to figure it out. Two,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: do you want to get rid of Joe Biden? Is
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: he the useful idiot that's no longer useful? Many Democrats
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: are afraid because of the mid terms he is going
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: to run for reelection because everybole to hold the Senate,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: especially now by increasing their majority in the Senate, which
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: is just insane with how bad the economy us. Also,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: as I said earlier, think there's no doubt about it.
• 34:03
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