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[BxBD] We're back! Time to catch up on what we missed · Boxing B-Sides

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  This shit ain't nothing to me, man. This is Boxing
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  Before Dark. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Back. Back.
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  Back. Back. Back. Before. Before. Before. Before.
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  Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing Before Dark. This
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  is Boxing Before Dark. Well. Ready? Let's do
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  the thing. Boxing Before Dark is back, bitch.
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  Took a little time off. Went to the countryside.
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  Went to the seaside. Globe traveling. Yeah, had
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  to do a little globe trotting. Man, it's like
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  10, 11 hour flights. Like, non -stop. I don't
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  know. I personally, I think I would prefer a
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  stop. No, no you don't. I've traveled with lots
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  of stops. But sitting cramped for 12 hours straight
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  is not very pleasant. I couldn't sleep as shit.
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  It takes half the time as if you have a stop.
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  Yeah, it does take longer. Get to stretch your
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  legs. Reload on snacks. I guess. I'm just...
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  Just tough it out person. The longer the flight,
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  the better. Oh, well, but we're not here for
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  my fucking traveling stories. If you want, we
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  were talking about it before we started. So you're
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  going to have to go to Patreon. Look at that.
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  I'm already back in the swing of things. Plug
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  in the Patreon. So professional. Yeah, man. Just
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  really quickly. How was you went to one 173?
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  I did. It was super cool. I was so devastated
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  that Rod Tang didn't fight, though. Yeah, that
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  was a bummer. He was like 40 % of why I bought
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  a ticket. But I got to see the one -armed Canadian.
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  Yeah. Peacock. I did see him lose, but that was
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  still pretty fun. People, I guess, didn't know
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  who he was. I could hear people in the crowd
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  being like, what arm? Like, oh. And when he punched
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  the guy with his nub, the crowd would go wild.
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  It was great. But yeah, it was just super fun.
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  A super long day, though. Even with the couple
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  cancellations, I think there was 17 fights. Jesus.
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  So definitely worth the $100. I'll say that.
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  But it was a good time. Got to see Superbond.
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  That was a long time ago. I don't remember any
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  specifics, to be honest. Muay Thai is way better
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  than MMA, though. Oh, absolutely. One was a lot
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  more fun than Ryzen, and I don't think it's just
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  because it was a bigger card. Well, kickboxing
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  and Muay Thai is all action. Yeah, this one was
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  in a cage. It did have some grappling stuff,
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  but... Because the ladies... What was... She's
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  not the hand. What's the girl's name? Stamp?
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  Stamp, yes. She's MMA, right? She competes in
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  all the sports for one. Okay, well, it was an
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  MMA fight, so I think that was part of it. And
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  they had two old Japanese guys go at it. That
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  was pretty fun. Yeah, that MMA one. But they
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  weren't doing a whole lot of grappling. And when
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  they were grappling, they were actively trying
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  to submit each other. Yeah, they had one Brazilian
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  jiu -jitsu or something. I went to the bathroom
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  and bought some beer and stuff. I wasn't sitting
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  through that. Oh, yeah. That one, I've been catching
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  up on the card. I kind of tuned out after like
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  three minutes. the arena emptied it was crazy
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  like i'd say three quarters of the people went
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  to the bathroom during that one intermission
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  yeah but no the whole card was fun though as
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  a whole um japan is really quiet so it didn't
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  have the same feel as like watching one on tv
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  when it's in thailand but Yeah, I did notice
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  when I was rewatching that the crowd is not the
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  best. Quiet. Yeah. Yeah. There was none of the,
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  like, series of knees with people screaming at
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  each knee. Yeah. Let's get to some news. Fucking
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  not breaking, but breaking my heart. Janubek.
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  Piss is hot. What a fucking idiot. Swears up
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  and down that he did. I haven't changed my regimen
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  at all. The first time I was tested by Vada,
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  everything came back clean. I haven't changed
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  my vitamin regimen or my supplement regimen.
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  Yeah. Well, and what did he test positive for?
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  It sounded like some fucking radioactive chemical.
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  Like Melbonium or something. I haven't. I didn't
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  see what it was. The name is funny. Give me a
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  second. Everybody just says banned substance.
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  Yeah, that's all I've been seeing. Yeah. Nah,
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  I saw it. It starts with an M and it sounds radioactive.
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  It may very well have been. Anyways, I'm not
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  going to find it quickly enough. Yeah, it just...
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  I mean, I'm not super surprised, but it makes
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  me sad. And he just fucked himself. Like, he
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  already had trouble getting fights. This is going
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  to make it worse. Yeah, definitely. There's this
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  old... Some old post on, I think, Reddit or something
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  that I saw is like, what's a life hack or secret
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  tip you have? It's whenever there's like a disaster,
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  a man -made disaster in whatever region, travel
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  there because no one wants to go there. So there's
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  not going to be a lot of tourists around. Oh,
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  yeah, yeah. Security's going to be beefed up
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  and everything. If it was like a violent event.
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  And so I'm thinking now might be the perfect
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  time to fight Janabek because he's going to be
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  under a lot higher scrutiny. That's true. And
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  I did find it. The substance is meldonium. You
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  almost had that. I was pretty close. Yeah. So
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  it just sounds like something at the bottom of
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  the periodic table. What is that? Maldonium.
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  Give me a second. So it was banned in 2016, so
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  it's probably pretty new. And it's famous from
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  Russia and the Eastern Bloc. Cardiovascular,
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  neurological, and medical conditions is the...
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  Proper use. So I assume it helps with your cardiovascular.
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  Yeah, stamina. Stamina, yeah. It's a metabolic
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  modulator altering enzyme reactions in the body.
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  Maria Sharapova used meldonium before the bat.
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  That explains that. She was really successful
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  in her... She was a tennis player? uh yep yeah
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  okay because well before it before it was banned
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  uh people just used it openly because it wasn't
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  yeah because it wasn't yeah so so it's proper
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  uses to treat problems with brain circulation
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  uh and has been reported to improve mood motor
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  symptoms dizziness and nausea so Anyways, it's
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  an old school Eastern Bloc performance enhancer,
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  which tracks for Janabek, I guess. Yeah, that's
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  what I was thinking. He's from Kazakhstan, so
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  it kind of makes sense. But it's been around
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  since the, I think, 80s, but only got banned
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  in 2016. Nobody agrees if it actually enhances
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  your performance or not. Interesting. Bro science.
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  Yeah. Speaking of testing positive, though, Matias
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  popped for Osterine. But then he didn't. Yeah,
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  I was going to say, like, I saw that he was in
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  trouble, but then he wasn't. Yeah. I don't know.
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  I wasn't in my phone at that time. I haven't
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  gotten, I don't think anybody has really said
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  why they say it wasn't a problem. So they changed
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  their mind in three days. So it's not because
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  of an investigation or anything. And he did test
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  very low, like Ryan Garcia. But I wonder if the
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  B sample came in not positive. Everybody reported
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  the A sample was positive, and then the B sample
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  wasn't. But I haven't seen anything concrete
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  on that, but that's the only reasonable explanation
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  I can think of for the three -day turnaround
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  on him not being in trouble. But, who was it?
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  It wasn't VADA that said it wasn't an issue,
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  it was... Is it the WBC? It was the belt organization.
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  Yeah, I remember seeing that. That they weren't
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  going to hold it against him. Yeah, that's also
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  very weird. So probably they just don't want
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  to cancel the... Because he's Puerto Rican? Cuban?
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  Puerto Rican. They don't want to cancel the main
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  event on their Puerto Rican card. I think is
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  all it is. But people are especially pissed that
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  Matias popped because that guy died after their
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  fight. So now everybody's calling him a murderer
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  because he probably was on steroids when he killed
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  a guy. I don't think you can do that, but...
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  I mean... That's a little bit of a reach. Yeah.
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  Man, but it comes with the, like, my personal
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  mantra of, like, everyone's on something. Yeah.
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  So. Yeah, I, this looks really, like, belt corruption
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  to me, so I'm not very happy about it, but it
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  is what it is, I guess. Hmm. I don't know if
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  this is speaking of belt corruption, but Moses
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  Atauma and Lawrence Okoli are... Are a WBC eliminator.
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  Fun. Is it? No. No, I can only hope that Atauma
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  puts Okoli out early. Okoli is so boring. He's
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  a negative fighter, for sure. But at least they're
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  both coming off of wins. For a Tauma, yes. But
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  for like a Koli, I guess you can call that a
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  win. I mean, he's had a couple wins in a row.
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  They're just not very good competition. I think.
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  And they're not very exciting to watch. Yeah,
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  he's got three wins in a row. So I can't really
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  complain about that. It's weird that Okoli ends
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  up in that position. Well, no, not so much. You
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  said he's got three wins in a row. Heavyweight
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  is desperate for anyone they can get. He's got
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  the WBC silver. Okoli does? Yeah. Okay, so he's
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  earned it. Kind of. Yeah, I do not care about
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  this fight for many reasons, but Okoli is so
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  fucking boring. Some other orders from the WBC.
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  Ben Whitaker versus Joshua Buozzi. I think this
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  is a good step up for Whitaker. Yeah. I gotta
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  look up which one is Buozzi. I forget what he
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  looks like. Callum Smith. I think that was his
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  first loss. Yeah, yeah. I recognize him. Obviously,
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  I recognize him, but I just need a picture. Yeah,
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  that could be fun. I kind of hope Whitaker loses.
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  He's not going to, but I kind of hope he does.
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  He hasn't been doing a whole lot of the dancing
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  shit, though, has he? No, I just don't like him.
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  He's the one who pulled the guy over and then
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  hurt himself, right? Yes. Yeah. Come on, Leo.
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  You can't cheer for that. I liked him when he
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  was doing the dancing stuff. I didn't like him
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  then either. Emmanuel Augustus 2 .0. No. Not
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  nearly as cool as Emmanuel Augustus. Another
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  one. Mbili vs Shiraz. I wanted the rematch. I
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  did too. This is actually a good fight, yes.
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  Lester Martinez and Mbili got unsettled business.
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  Yeah. Well, and Lester Martinez, I think, will
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  win the rematch. I think Mbili's slightly ducking
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  here. Lester was making good adjustments and
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  Mbili was not. What's this an eliminator for
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  again? 168? Which would be Crawford now, right?
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  Yes. Well, no. Not anymore. Oh, right. No, not
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  anymore. Because Crawford got stripped of the
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  WBC. Because he didn't want to pay extortion
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  fees. Whiny. I think the... They were talking
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  about it in Discord an hour or so ago. About
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  how the other organizations have set percentages
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  that they take of purses. And the WBC doesn't.
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  And they take a percentage of overall income,
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  I guess. Okay, that does sound kind of shit.
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  Yeah, it's a little funky. I think Terrence Crawford
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  was good. It was a good move to stand on his
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  business for that one because like he paid the
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  other ones. So it's not like he doesn't want
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  to just he just doesn't want to pay the sanctioning
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  fees. Right. He just doesn't agree with the WBC.
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  Yeah. They're wanting a bigger slice for reasons.
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  Yeah. No, I hadn't. I hadn't heard the specifics
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  there. I guess that makes sense. Like, I assumed
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  it was also a set percentage. He just didn't
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  like how high the percentage was. But if it's
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  not, that's... They don't operate the same as
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  everyone else. Yeah, I can see his point. Tinfoil
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  hat. They're saying that, like, the chat was
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  saying that, like, the WBC is intentionally making
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  shit look really bad to give Turkey and Dana
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  White... better clearance for the Oli reform?
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  Yeah, I saw not just on Discord. I saw that in
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  a couple places. They might use Terrence Crawford
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  for that, but I don't know if Terrence is doing
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  that on purpose. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
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  His situation is just convenient for them. Yeah.
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  He has been having a bit of a meltdown on Twitter,
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  though, that I have not been following. Because
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  one of the things I like about Terrence is he's
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  usually pretty quiet and just does his stuff.
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  I follow him on Instagram where he's not crazy.
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  He just puts up training videos and hunting videos
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  and stuff. Because he likes to hunt and fish.
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  But his Twitter seems to have gone off last week.
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  Yeah, I guess that's the difference between the
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  two platforms, because I don't use Twitter either,
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  so I don't really know the full extent of the
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  meltdown, or what he's been saying. Yeah, I guess
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  probably the guys over on B -Sides will have
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  Twitter. Yeah. I can't imagine that Alex doesn't
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  have Twitter. Hmm. Usyk wants to fight Deontay
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  Wilder. Nice. Is this a good move? I think Usyk
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  should retire. I've said this a bunch. Who's
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  left that he actually needs to beat? Fucking
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  nobody. He's beat everybody twice. If I were
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  to say anyone, I would say Deontay Wilder. But
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  with his recent history, kind of puts that out
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  of the picture. Yeah, like, I can kind of see
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  it. He's the last big name from that era that
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  Usyk hasn't fought. But Wilder has looked so
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  shit lately. Yeah, exactly. That I don't, I guess
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  in history people will forget. And it'll look
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  like another good name on his resume in like
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  10, 20 years. But right now, I don't think it
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  adds anything to U6's resume. Not fighting Deontay
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  Wilder in 2026. It just doesn't mean anything
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  to me. Yeah, I don't see a lot of value. Well,
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  there's money to be made here, I suppose. I don't
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  even know if it will sell that good. Hmm. Maybe.
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  Maybe the casuals that haven't seen Wilder fight
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  in a few years. Three years. Yeah. Like, if the
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  last Wilder fight you saw was Fury 3, maybe you
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  would be excited. But, like, even if they saw
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  Zhang beat the crap out of him, I don't... I
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  don't know if they would be excited to see Usyk
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  do the same thing. Or if you saw Parker piece
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  him up. You want to see Usyk do it better? I
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  think Usyk might actually get the knockout. But,
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  like, it's not going to be a stunning, like,
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  knockout. It's going to be an accumulation make
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  you sad for Wilder knockout. Like, I don't know.
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  I guess somebody's excited for this. I am not
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  excited for this. I would rather see Usyk fight.
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  Well, I wanted to see Usyk fight Parker, but
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  Parker fucked that up, so... What was the...
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  Howard Foster? Was that the referee? For Wardley...
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  Wardley Parker? Yeah. Yeah. I still say he fucked
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  it up. Well, he did. Yeah. That was the most
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  Brit of Brit stoppages ever. You can't stop a
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  fight after four misses. Like, the last punch
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  landed in that fight was from Parker. Such a
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  shit stoppage. What else do we have on here?
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  Callum Smith and David Morrell are all but set.
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  It's all but official. I like Callum Smith, but
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  he's getting to the end. Yeah. If you know what
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  I mean. Yeah, he's towards the end of his career.
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  Unfortunate, but that's the way it goes. Yeah,
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  I just... I want Callum Smith to win. And he
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  might. I don't think he's completely washed.
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  But this might be a good fight. David Murrell
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  looks shaky. Even though the guy was on every
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  PED in the pantry, or in the cupboard. He looked
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  shaky, but eh. I hope Callum Smith can pull something
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  out. I would like him to get this win. Would
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  that seal David Morrell's career? Like relegate
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  him to the B tier? It might. Like, losing to
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  Callum Smith now, it's gonna hurt you. That's
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  a bad sign. Yeah, like... But... Yeah, Callum
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  Smith's just getting too old, I think. I know
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  he's not, like, ancient, but... He's taken a
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  couple pretty bad beatings, I think. Ooh, he
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  is pretty ancient, actually. I take it back.
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  I know the higher weight classes, you get to
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  be older, but he's 35. That's still, like, up
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  there in years. Yeah. Well, and he took an ass
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  -kicking from Canelo, and he took an ass -kicking
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  from Beterbiev. Like... Gotta add up, right?
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  Yeah. He's been doing alright, though, hasn't
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  he? He's been putting them together. He's had
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  two wins. Yeah, but... I mean... Carlos Galvin,
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  and then he beat Buatsi. Surprised me in the
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  Buatsi fight. I was so happy. That was a pretty
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  clear win, too, I thought. I know one of the
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  cards was really close, but... Competitive, but
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  clear. Yeah. I don't know. I hope Calum Smith
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  pulls out another win. I don't have any feelings
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  about David Morrell, so if it ruins his career,
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  I'm okay with that. Eat shit, David Morrell.
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  That's what I just heard. Yeah, yeah. That's
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  what everybody heard. You know who can eat shit?
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  I know we're not there yet, but tension can eat
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  shit. I'm eating Dookie right there with him.
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  I don't know if this is eating shit, but this
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  is not the most impressive class for the Hall
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  of Fame. Triple G, 100%. I'm 100 % behind that.
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  But Nigel Benn and Antonio Tarver, I'm not too
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  sure about either of those. See, I don't think
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  any of them are super strong contenders. I don't
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  know if Triple G should be first ballot. To be
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  honest. Like, he was really good, but was he
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  amazing? Or did he just have really fun fights?
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  Really fun fights. I think some of the intangibles
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  here, like, He lost the biggest ones, though.
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  Well, he lost the Canelo one. Yeah, two Canelos,
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  I guess. I do think Triple G should be in the
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  Hall of Fame. I just don't know if he's first
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  ballot. I'd have made him wait. I'd have made
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  Antonio Tarver wait. Is this his first time up
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  for it? It's gotta be more than the first, not
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  the first time. He's been inactive for quite
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  some time. Yeah. So has Nigel Benn, obviously.
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  Nigel Benn, I'm fine with him getting in. Mostly
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  just... I guess because of the rivalry with Eubank.
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  Like... That's been fun. And I think now is a
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  good time to put him in after his son had the...
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  Whatever. Yeah. But Antonio Tarver, I'm not gonna
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  lie, I'm not 100 % sure who Antonio Tarver is.
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  I don't think I ever watched any of his fights.
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  He fell in that time when I just... Didn't watch
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  boxing as much as I do. I only watched the small
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  weight classes when he was fighting. You got
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  any excuses tonight, Roy? Oh, okay. Yeah, I know
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  who he is. He's also in Rocky 6. I did not watch
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  Rocky 6. It's too many. I think it's good. I
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  think it's worth watching. If you're not doing
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  anything else, then it's worth giving it a gander.
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  Yeah, I don't have an opinion on Tarver because
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  I don't know enough about him, I guess. But they
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  have him as a color commentator sometimes, right?
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  Yes. Yeah. That's the other thing. Like, I guess
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  Triple G does a lot of amateur stuff. Outside
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  of just boxing, he's been good for boxing. Yes.
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  Because he got elected as the president of something,
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  right? I think the Asia Boxing Association. I
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  think he got really recently, like last week.
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  Yeah. President of the National Olympic Committee.
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  No, that was last year. I swear to God, he just
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  got elected to something. Yeah, I saw it on Instagram.
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  He got something. I think it was... World Boxing
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  President. Okay. That's what it is. World President
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  of Boxing. Yep. Man, I... Yeah, so he's going
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  to be in charge of amateur boxing going into
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  they ship to the U .S., do they? Small amounts,
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  yes, but they don't sell commercially here. Oh,
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  Tottenham Hotspur Stadium on November 15th. It
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  was chilly in the stadium. You know what was
• 33:47
  fucking cool? I went up to the beer counter and
• 33:53
  I had been buying two at a time. Yeah, easy to
• 33:57
  carry. That's what I'm used to. You're only allowed
• 34:00
  to buy two in the U .S. You can't buy more. Only
• 34:03
  two? That's crazy. If you buy more, you have
• 34:06
  to have other people there with you. The States
• 34:10
  is so lame about alcohol. It's weird. It sucks.
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  So I asked, can I get whatever the brew was?
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  I forgot the name. Like Madrid or something like
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  that? And they're like, how many do you want?
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  I'm like, shit, how many can I get? I'm like,
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  you can get up to four. And they put a little
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  carrier. I'm like, oh, fuck me. I can get four
• 34:34
  of these? That's what Canada does at university
• 34:39
  games. And the rider games, you can get six.
• 34:43
  Jesus. Well, they assume it's not just for you.
• 34:48
  That's a poor assumption on their part. uh like
• 34:53
  i was there i got there for first belt um i was
• 34:57
  waiting outside to get in and whatever i was
• 35:02
  there for first belt so like there was nobody
• 35:05
  else there it was really sparsely uh the crowd
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  was really sparse but they always are at the
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  beginning so i was getting like four of them
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  and So I'm just sitting there by myself with
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  my beers. Like, there's nobody else around. Like,
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  man, this is cool. And then you accidentally
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  drink them too fast because they're just sitting
• 35:30
  there. And you might spill them if you don't.
• 35:32
  Somebody spilled one of my beers, actually. Yeah.
• 35:35
  He replaced it for me, but it was all good. So
• 35:42
  Mikey Talon gets the KO5 over Faison Shahid.
• 35:48
  I don't know either of these people. Yeah, it
• 35:50
  was, they were like, whatever, kids. These aren't
• 35:58
  in running order. I just kind of, the order I
• 36:02
  had them in before. Richard Reakpour knocked
• 36:06
  out Tommy Welsh in two. By that point, I remember
• 36:12
  the guys, people were starting to fill in around
• 36:15
  me. And they're like, I just hear like, who are
• 36:18
  these people? Yeah. All right. That's fun. Uh,
• 36:25
  Ishmael Davis versus Sam Gilly. Uh, there was
• 36:29
  a lot of cheering for Sam Gilly. Yeah. Yeah.
• 36:35
  That's too bad. He lost. Um, Adam Azim. stops
• 36:45
  kurt scooby and 12. this was where i was starting
• 36:50
  to feel my drinks a little bit i was i i said
• 36:55
  in i said in the chat you if you can hear the
• 36:57
  crowd you're gonna hear one lone voice cheering
• 37:01
  for kurt scooby and it's gonna be me and it was
• 37:04
  true yep there's a little like uh there were
• 37:09
  some people booing just because they said he's
• 37:10
  from the u .s but yeah whatever and it was it
• 37:15
  went poorly kurt scooby um just could not find
• 37:20
  an answer for anything adamazine was doing um
• 37:24
  the guy sitting in front of me they heard me
• 37:27
  cheering for for scooby and they're like why
• 37:30
  are you cheering for him like because uh i'm
• 37:34
  american too and they're like oh shit you're
• 37:36
  american yeah been here the whole time yeah You
• 37:41
  didn't notice. Yeah. And then they turned and
• 37:47
  looked at me with these shit -eating grins. I'm
• 37:49
  like, you motherfuckers. Like, yeah, you got
• 37:52
  it. You were right. But I remember the chat saying
• 37:56
  Adam Azeem is someone we should start taking
• 38:02
  seriously. Yeah. I kind of thought people were
• 38:07
  taking him seriously before this, but I guess
• 38:09
  not. Not as much. Like, the Lipinets was a good
• 38:13
  win, but this was, like, better. This was definitely
• 38:19
  better, yeah. Like, Kurt Scooby is decent competition
• 38:23
  for most people. Yes. So, somebody, Britt to
• 38:30
  keep an eye on at 140 now. So, that's fun. The
• 38:35
  Assassin. That's way too cool of a nickname for
• 38:38
  him. For Azim? Yeah. Triple A? I guess. Oh boy,
• 38:49
  Jack Catterall stops Ekow Esumen in 11. Yeah,
• 38:55
  this was a hard watch. It was. I was feeling
• 38:59
  myself at this point, so I was like, I was all
• 39:02
  over it. I'm like, Jack Catterall is training
• 39:05
  with Bozy. Bozy Ennis. He went out to Philly.
• 39:09
  He's going to do the silly shell. It was about
• 39:13
  this fight that I realized that everybody sitting
• 39:16
  around me were casual fans. It took you this
• 39:20
  long to realize? Well, we were talking boxing,
• 39:24
  so I was like, okay. They seem to be passionate
• 39:28
  fans. Fair enough. No, let me rephrase that.
• 39:34
  It's not that I realized they were casuals. It's
• 39:36
  that I realized I was a fucking nerd. You're
• 39:40
  a degenerate. Yeah, I'm a degenerate. Because
• 39:42
  I'm sitting here talking about Jack Carroll's
• 39:44
  new trainer. This is true. This happens to me
• 39:49
  a lot. I got blank stares. Their faces went blank.
• 39:57
  They're like, what the fuck are you talking about?
• 39:59
  I'm like, man, I'm the... I'm the fucking weirdo
• 40:02
  here. You did fly across the ocean to go to a
• 40:07
  boxing match. I mean. It just so happened to
• 40:10
  be happening while I was there. So I did plan
• 40:12
  around it. Since. Yeah. Since it was there. I
• 40:16
  made plans. Yeah. I just mean like boxing was
• 40:21
  important enough to you. Oh, yes. To work it
• 40:24
  into your holiday. Yep. Lots of people will be
• 40:29
  like, oh, guess I'm going to miss the Eubank
• 40:31
  -Ben rematch because I'm on holiday. Nope, I'm
• 40:36
  going to go. I'm fucking going to it. I'm going
• 40:39
  to figure out how to ride the goddamn subway,
• 40:41
  the tube. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. I fell
• 40:48
  asleep partway through this one. Had to rewatch
• 40:50
  it. The cards are just at a bad time for me.
• 40:54
  Yeah, I was going to say, that's understandable.
• 40:57
  It's not because the fight was that bad, but
• 40:59
  it did make me sad. I liked cheering for Esuvin,
• 41:02
  even though I didn't think he was going to win.
• 41:06
  But is Jack Catterall back? He might be. But,
• 41:14
  like, do I care? I think is the bigger question.
• 41:17
  I don't like Jack Catterall. It's another competitor
• 41:23
  at welterweight, which is kind of lacking, so.
• 41:27
  I guess. I mean, if Jack Catterall, what weight
• 41:32
  class are all the guys I don't like at? What
• 41:35
  weight class is Ryan Garcia now? 147. If Jack
• 41:40
  Catterall beat Ryan Garcia, I would love him.
• 41:44
  He can win his way into my heart. Oh, that was
• 41:48
  a bit of news. Ryan Garcia's fighting Mario Barrios.
• 41:53
  Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's not going to happen, but
• 41:57
  I hope Barrios beats him. I really do. I've never
• 42:03
  wanted a draw more in my life. That's true. A
• 42:08
  draw would be the funniest. But yeah, if Kataral
• 42:12
  started beating those guys I don't like, I would
• 42:15
  get behind Kataral. Even though I don't like
• 42:17
  him either. The lesser of two evils and all that.
• 42:20
  Yeah. I think he has a chance. Because Welterweight
• 42:27
  is pretty poor at the moment. Is it though? I
• 42:35
  mean, Catterall's probably not going to beat
• 42:39
  Amy. He's not going to beat Tio. Well, he might
• 42:44
  beat Tio. Anybody could beat Tio, theoretically.
• 42:47
  Yeah, if the stars align. Yeah. Is Shakira at
• 42:51
  147 now? No. Still at 35, as far as I know. But
• 42:57
  I think he's moving to 40 for the fight with
• 43:00
  Teofimo. Another bit of news we forgot. We can
• 43:05
  cover that one next week. It's way in the future.
• 43:07
  Yeah, it's in January. But yeah, that was...
• 43:14
  Jack Catterall was about when I realized I'm
• 43:17
  a fucking degenerate. I need to go outside and...
• 43:20
  Catch some grass. Yep. And I found a fellow degenerate
• 43:31
  during Connor Ben versus Chris Eubank. Nice.
• 43:37
  As the fight started, it was pretty obvious within
• 43:40
  the first two or three rounds, Chris Eubank was...
• 43:43
  Something was wrong with him. What was it? I
• 43:48
  don't know. He just can't make that weight. You
• 43:51
  think that's what it was? Weight gain? 100 %
• 43:54
  I think that's what it was. And he's too old
• 43:58
  to be trying now. He's 36. Weight draining yourself
• 44:07
  like that at 36 is bad news. Yeah. I did see
• 44:13
  on social media he's not sure when he's going
• 44:15
  to fight again. I think he was hospitalized for
• 44:20
  quite a while afterwards. Jesus. I better fact
• 44:25
  check myself there. But he was in the hospital,
• 44:27
  not just for like checkups. He was there overnight
• 44:30
  for sure. Connor Ben also looking to fight Ryan
• 44:39
  Garcia. Yeah, even if Ben beats Garcia, I'm still
• 44:44
  going to hate both of them. I was going to ask
• 44:47
  if that would change your mind on Ben. No, not
• 44:51
  enough. Yeah, Eubank was hospitalized for two
• 44:57
  days. Like, in the hospital, mostly unconscious
• 45:02
  for two days. Jeez. And, yeah, the pictures are
• 45:10
  him hooked up to, like, ventilators and shit.
• 45:12
  Like, I don't think... If he comes back to boxing,
• 45:16
  he needs to go to his real weight class. Like,
• 45:19
  it's... It was about the time of the knockdown
• 45:30
  that I walked away. I left early. Yeah, you left
• 45:36
  early. Yeah, I had seen enough. Like, Eubank
• 45:38
  isn't doing shit. Ben is able to do stuff. And
• 45:43
  this is going one way. So, what's the point?
• 45:48
  Fair enough. But... I bet you singing Sweet Caroline
• 45:53
  with everybody was a lot of fun. It was. They
• 45:58
  sing that at football games in Canada sometimes,
• 46:01
  and it's always one of my favorite parts of the
• 46:04
  game. Yeah, I had went to get drinks, and then
• 46:09
  I heard it starting, and I was like, oh shit,
• 46:12
  hurry up, get me my goddamn beverages already.
• 46:17
  Yeah, I need to go sing. Yes. And so I like I
• 46:21
  had my drinks and I was like taking videos and
• 46:23
  stuff. And then I get back to my seat and the
• 46:25
  guy sitting next to me is like, well, you came
• 46:27
  all the way from the States and like you're missing
• 46:29
  the best part. Yeah. Yeah. No, I was taking videos,
• 46:33
  man. I bet I bet you the atmosphere in England
• 46:40
  is like crazy more fun than it is here in Japan.
• 46:44
  I like going to boxing here, but the atmosphere
• 46:47
  is a little lacking. I can't imagine the Japanese
• 46:52
  people singing a song. What would they even sing?
• 46:58
  Sweet Caroline? Some J -pop stuff of some sort?
• 47:03
  I mean, Japan has a lot of music. Yeah, yeah.
• 47:08
  I just can't imagine them being that loud. I
• 47:15
  can't imagine a Japanese person being loud, period.
• 47:20
  I mean, they can be, but usually when they're
• 47:23
  drinking. Anything more for Eubank? Nah, this
• 47:32
  one made me a little sad. Like, clearly Eubank
• 47:38
  was not, shouldn't have been there for whatever
• 47:42
  reason. I do not want to see a third one either.
• 47:49
  No. That's the guy sitting behind me. Major Eubank
• 47:56
  Stan. He kept calling Eubank my son. Nice. Go
• 48:03
  on, my son. All right. You really like this guy.
• 48:10
  Fair enough. Yeah. But he was I that was like
• 48:14
  I knew I had found another degenerate. He was
• 48:16
  talking about a BOMAC. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah,
• 48:21
  yeah. Like, oh, shit. I'm not alone. Let's move
• 48:30
  to ring four in Riyadh. Just one disappointment
• 48:42
  on Brian Norman getting dropped by Devin Haney.
• 48:49
  Soundly outboxed. Haney does look better at this
• 48:54
  weight class. Because this was his first move
• 48:56
  up, right? I believe so. Yeah. He looked different.
• 49:04
  He looked like he had more power. For sure. Or
• 49:09
  maybe Brian Norman just isn't as good as I thought
• 49:12
  he was. But I thought Devin Haney looked really
• 49:14
  good in this fight. And not as boring as usual.
• 49:20
  He was feeling himself. Yeah, I really thought
• 49:23
  he was still going to be a little shell -shocked,
• 49:25
  and I was expecting him to fight better, but
• 49:29
  similar to the Ramirez fight, and he did not.
• 49:34
  Devin Haney looked good. I have to give him his
• 49:36
  props. Like, I was impressed with Haney's performance.
• 49:45
  Oh. Bam Rodriguez stops Fernando Martinez. Bam
• 49:55
  is suffering from success. Bam made that look
• 49:58
  so easy. Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out
• 50:01
  how to phrase that. Because Bam didn't really
• 50:03
  have trouble from the very beginning. No, and
• 50:06
  nobody watches these weight classes. But Puma
• 50:12
  Martinez is a world -class fighter. Like, this
• 50:17
  was supposed to be a test. Cafu was supposed
• 50:20
  to be a step up, but Martinez was supposed to
• 50:24
  be a test. And I expected it to be a fight, and
• 50:27
  it just wasn't. It was just, damn, doing damn
• 50:32
  things. Like, he looked so good. He made Martinez
• 50:36
  look so average. Yeah, he made Martinez look,
• 50:40
  like, completely flat -footed. looked like amateurish
• 50:44
  the way that he was throwing the way he was throwing
• 50:49
  his punches like trying to loop around bam's
• 50:51
  guard and like it was comical just how wide of
• 50:55
  a shot he was throwing and yeah just to get pivoted
• 50:59
  on martinez kind of always throws like that but
• 51:04
  it's an awkward thing that usually works for
• 51:07
  him like I don't know how to explain it. And
• 51:11
  I think he was exaggerating it a little because
• 51:13
  Bam cuts angles so good. He was trying to catch
• 51:17
  Bam moving. But it just didn't work. Nothing
• 51:22
  he did worked. It was crazy. Bam just looked
• 51:27
  like he doesn't belong in the ring with anyone
• 51:30
  else right now. He looked like what everybody
• 51:35
  said Loma looked like. I don't think there's
• 51:41
  any competition for Bam anywhere near his actual
• 51:44
  weight class. He's gonna have to move up. Only
• 51:48
  thing I could think of him wanting to do still
• 51:51
  at 115 would be getting undisputed. And that
• 51:57
  would be it. Yeah. Yeah. And I think he said
• 52:00
  that he would like to do that. Because right
• 52:04
  now he sits on the outside. of Inouye, Crawford,
• 52:09
  and Usyk, who are all multi -division undisputed
• 52:14
  champions. So you kind of, I don't know, by merit,
• 52:19
  you can't really put Bam above them in a pound
• 52:23
  -for -pound discussion, could you? No, no. But
• 52:28
  I'm just saying that Bam looked like he didn't
• 52:30
  belong there with anybody. But yeah, he only
• 52:36
  needs the one more fight to become Undisputed
• 52:39
  2. Right? Because Bam's got three belts now.
• 52:43
  Correct. So he just has to beat Willie Baldo.
• 52:47
  Such a great name. So I could see him doing that
• 52:54
  before moving up. And I'm not saying he shouldn't.
• 52:56
  I just mean, I don't think Garcia has any chance.
• 53:02
  Like, I think Puma's a better fighter than Willy
• 53:06
  Baldo Garcia. So. But I also kind of don't want
• 53:15
  Bam to come up to 118, because that's where my
• 53:18
  favorites are, and they're not that good. Bam
• 53:23
  will run through all of them. But that's just
• 53:29
  my personal biases showing. Well, we did see
• 53:35
  Takuma Inoue is able to put the work on somebody
• 53:41
  who cuts serious angles. Does Tenchin cut angles?
• 53:47
  Tenchin sucks. He can cut angles. He didn't against
• 53:51
  Takuma because it wasn't working. Yeah, that's
• 53:55
  true. No, I don't think anybody at 118 has a
• 53:59
  fucking snowball's chance in hell against Bam.
• 54:02
  Unless Bam comes up and his power doesn't carry
• 54:04
  at all. And I think Bam could just outbox them.
• 54:10
  But unless he suddenly becomes pillow -fisted,
• 54:13
  which he won't, and they just walk through it,
• 54:16
  I don't see Bam having trouble with anybody at
• 54:18
  118. Damn. Do you? No, not really. Like, I know
• 54:28
  it's... It's a bold state, not bold, but it's
• 54:33
  a big statement. But like, I really just don't
• 54:35
  see anyone that's going to stand against Bam.
• 54:43
  The commentary kept like, Todd Grisham and Mike
• 54:50
  Coppinger were both saying that he should fight
• 54:52
  Inouye. Yeah, they're fucking idiots. Yeah, Sergio
• 54:58
  was talking about. Bam should go to 118. 118
• 55:04
  makes sense. And I'm not saying Bam couldn't
• 55:08
  go up to 122, but Inouye's going to 126. Like,
• 55:12
  you want Bam to jump three weight classes to
• 55:16
  fight the pound -for -pound best under 140 pounds
• 55:22
  for sure? Like, it sounds stupid. Just because
• 55:29
  Crawford went up and beat Canelo doesn't mean
• 55:33
  that... Anyone can do that. Well, also, Inouye's
• 55:37
  not as washed as Canelo. At all. Like... No matter
• 55:46
  what you think of Canelo and stuff, he's not
• 55:49
  as good as he was. No. No, he's not. But Inoue's
• 55:54
  still looking pretty prime, and you're expecting
• 55:56
  Bam to go up at least two weight classes to fight
• 55:59
  him? I think that's stupid. The other option
• 56:05
  would be, what, Nakatani? If he were to jump
• 56:09
  to 22. Yeah. Again, I'm not saying Bam can't
• 56:16
  take these fights, but I would want him to take
• 56:18
  a couple in -between step -up... make sure you're
• 56:22
  gaining weight decently. Yeah. Like... I mean,
• 56:29
  Crawford took a whole year off to get up to size.
• 56:32
  Bam's not gonna take a year off. You need some
• 56:37
  time to... You need time to bulk up. Also, how
• 56:44
  tall is Bam? I think 5 '4". Like... Okay. I thought
• 56:52
  he was shorter than that. I think Inouye's the
• 56:55
  same size, isn't he? Yeah, okay. For some reason
• 56:59
  I thought Bam was 5 '2". Never mind. His size
• 57:05
  probably isn't an issue then. Abdullah Mason
• 57:14
  beats the piss out of Sam Noakes. does beat the
• 57:20
  piss out of Sam Noakes. But Sam Noakes did impress
• 57:24
  me. Why is that? With how much fucking damage
• 57:29
  he could take. I just didn't think Sam Noakes
• 57:34
  would do as well as he did. He lost well. It
• 57:38
  was a fun fight. Yeah, the cards had it pretty
• 57:41
  wide. I think one of them was like 9 -3. The
• 57:47
  other two were Mason by one round, though. Okay,
• 57:51
  that's a little bit more reasonable. Yeah, two
• 57:54
  of them were 115, 113. Noakes did have good moments.
• 58:01
  It was a much more fun fight than I thought it
• 58:04
  was going to be. Like... Abdullah Mason seems
• 58:12
  to choose to... To get hit more than. I feel
• 58:19
  like he needs to. I always liken this to the.
• 58:25
  The theory that. They. They don't worry about
• 58:30
  the power. That they're feeling. Like they're
• 58:32
  not concerned by it. Maybe. But you get bad habits.
• 58:36
  And then what happens when you come against.
• 58:38
  Somebody who does have power. It was a really
• 58:45
  fun fight. Which I like. And I don't particularly
• 58:49
  have strong feelings about either of these fighters.
• 58:51
  So I just enjoyed the very fun fight. But if
• 58:55
  Abdullah Mason is as good as you and other people
• 58:58
  think he is, he shouldn't be in that fun of a
• 59:02
  fight with Sam Noakes. Interesting. Is my take
• 59:08
  on it. As a... Neutral -ish observer. Yeah, like...
• 59:16
  I think Abdullah Mason could have just outboxed
• 59:20
  him. I'm glad he didn't, but I think he could
• 59:23
  have. Yeah, his corner kept telling him to. That
• 59:27
  was the other thing. He wasn't really listening
• 59:29
  to his coaches, which is always a bad thing,
• 59:32
  I think. Yeah, usually a bad sign. A really fun
• 59:40
  fight, though. If anybody missed it, they should
• 59:42
  go back and watch it. And another fun one. David
• 59:49
  Benavidez stops Anthony Yard. Was this one fun?
• 59:55
  It's pretty one -sided. Yeah, if you like one
• 59:57
  -sided beatdowns, then this one's pretty good.
• 1:00:02
  I expected Anthony Yard to do better. I really
• 1:00:06
  did. He did okay in the first few rounds. Yeah.
• 1:00:13
  I guess. Benavidez just kind of beat it out of
• 1:00:18
  him partway through, though. Yes. Did Benavidez
• 1:00:23
  get docked two points? Two points, yeah. I saw
• 1:00:26
  that correctly. Okay. Two points for... I don't
• 1:00:31
  remember what it was for. Hitting a downed opponent,
• 1:00:34
  I'm pretty sure. Yeah, okay. Yeah, sorry. It's
• 1:00:37
  been a while since this fight. I honestly think
• 1:00:42
  he could have been DQ'd there. That was pretty
• 1:00:44
  blatant. That was bad. Yikes. I thought it was.
• 1:00:51
  Two points I have no problem with. Mostly because
• 1:00:56
  it was a one -sided beatdown before that as well.
• 1:01:00
  But, like, it was a pretty blatant he was down
• 1:01:04
  and he hit him anyways. Not a good look. First
• 1:01:11
  time I've ever seen anybody get docked two points.
• 1:01:15
  At once. Yeah, I can't think of it either, but...
• 1:01:19
  So it's pulling up... 175. Beevil, better be
• 1:01:30
  it. That's pretty much all there is. Yeah, I
• 1:01:35
  think Beevil just outboxes Benavidez. You think
• 1:01:38
  so? As long as his back surgery went well, I
• 1:01:43
  think so. You disagree? Um... Beevil's 34. But
• 1:01:55
  we haven't seen him slow down much. Yeah, his
• 1:01:59
  style doesn't depend necessarily on athleticism.
• 1:02:02
  It's like textbook fucking Soviet boxing. Yeah,
• 1:02:09
  like... I don't know. I could be wrong. I just,
• 1:02:15
  I don't think it's a problem. Man, I could see
• 1:02:22
  either guy winning that. It would be a fun fight.
• 1:02:26
  I would like that. And that would be for Undisputed,
• 1:02:30
  right? Yes. Which means it's not going to happen,
• 1:02:36
  probably, because boxing. And then better be
• 1:02:42
  if he's a... It's 40. Yeah, I don't... I was
• 1:02:49
  never as high on Better Be Of as other people
• 1:02:52
  anyways. Oh, American beer. But power is the
• 1:02:57
  last thing to go, so... Yeah, and Better Be Of
• 1:03:01
  has a lot of it. Yeah. Oh, shit. Anthony Yard,
• 1:03:09
  not much for you to do. I mean, David Morrell
• 1:03:15
  is there, I guess. Which one's Gwazdik? Gwazdik?
• 1:03:26
  The guy that Benavides fought? Okay. Yeah, he's
• 1:03:32
  not... I don't think he's... I don't think he's
• 1:03:39
  quite at the top either. Not a bad fight for
• 1:03:41
  Anthony Yard, though. Like on a rebound. Yeah.
• 1:03:47
  But for Benavidez, it's just Bivol and Beterbiev.
• 1:03:50
  That's really all there is. And honestly, I don't
• 1:03:54
  really care about Beterbiev in this situation.
• 1:03:56
  I know other people do, but I mean, that's just
• 1:03:59
  old power versus younger power, isn't it? Power
• 1:04:03
  plus speed. Should be fireworks. Yeah, should
• 1:04:06
  be a fun fight. Both guys come forward. Yeah,
• 1:04:11
  maybe that would be more fun. B -Ball's just
• 1:04:14
  gonna outbox him, I think. But didn't... Am I
• 1:04:22
  misremembering? Didn't Benavidez say he was gonna
• 1:04:26
  go up and fight Zerno? Oh, that's right. He did
• 1:04:30
  say that. But I'm not sure why he would do that,
• 1:04:34
  but... For a big Cinco de Mayo weekend fight?
• 1:04:40
  I guess. Puerto Rico versus Mexico? It's Mexico
• 1:04:44
  versus Mexican -American. Zergo's Mexican. No,
• 1:04:52
  I'm confusing Benavides with the other guy. Who's
• 1:04:57
  the other guy? Starts with a B. That's Puerto
• 1:05:01
  Rican. From New York. Berlanga? Yes. That's the
• 1:05:09
  confusion I made. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, no. Mexican
• 1:05:16
  versus Mexican Cinco de Mayo. I can see why.
• 1:05:22
  I also wonder if Benavidez is starting to struggle
• 1:05:27
  to make 175 a little. He just got there. He looked
• 1:05:34
  pretty chubby. He's always looked that way, though.
• 1:05:37
  Even when he was 168. Maybe he wants... Maybe
• 1:05:44
  the fight is for the Winchellas sponsorship.
• 1:05:53
  Anything more for this card? No, I don't think
• 1:05:56
  so. All right. Time for you to rub it in my face.
• 1:06:00
  First, Tomoyo Suboi knocks out Carlos Cuadras
• 1:06:04
  in eight. It's pretty nice. Quadris looked so
• 1:06:07
  bad. Yeah, he did. It made me really sad. I do
• 1:06:11
  like Saboy, and I'm glad he won, but man, Quadris
• 1:06:15
  needs to hang him up. That made me sad. There
• 1:06:24
  was another one on here that I wanted to talk
• 1:06:27
  about. No. Was there? Is Masuda the one that
• 1:06:35
  had the five knockdowns on an Inoue undercard
• 1:06:38
  last year? I don't remember. I'm getting all
• 1:06:44
  my names mixed up already. Sorry, one second.
• 1:06:51
  No, he is not. Never mind then. That was Nakano,
• 1:07:02
  was it? At the T -Mobile Arena? Was that a...
• 1:07:10
  No. What date? May 4th? Yes. Okay. On the Cardenas
• 1:07:22
  undercard, Makito Nakano just beat the piss out
• 1:07:28
  of... some Mexican guy, he knocked him down five
• 1:07:31
  times that led to a TKO in the fifth round or
• 1:07:35
  something. And I was super excited to see him
• 1:07:40
  on this card because I had missed that fight
• 1:07:42
  because I was on the train to the bar to watch
• 1:07:45
  the show. And then he fucking loses. I was so
• 1:07:50
  mad. I was really excited about Nakano and then
• 1:07:58
  he got unanimous decision. Yeah. I didn't know
• 1:08:03
  who this Aleem guy was. People had been telling
• 1:08:07
  me that he was going to beat him, but I thought
• 1:08:09
  it was just Americans cheering for the American.
• 1:08:11
  But I guess not. I guess they knew what they
• 1:08:14
  were talking about. That was disappointing. But.
• 1:08:21
  The main event. Speaking of knowing what you
• 1:08:24
  were talking about. Takuma beats the piss on
• 1:08:31
  attention Nasukawa. I was so happy and so excited.
• 1:08:37
  Takuma lost the first two rounds and I was nervous
• 1:08:40
  and a little angry and I like got off discord.
• 1:08:45
  I was like, fuck this shit. I'm done. Obviously
• 1:08:48
  still watching it, but I wasn't gonna like. Yeah.
• 1:08:52
  And then the third round, Takuma figured out
• 1:08:57
  how to get the distance because Tenshin's pretty
• 1:09:03
  tall. And he was keeping him on the outside until
• 1:09:07
  Takuma figured out, I guess, the timing or something.
• 1:09:11
  And then Takuma just beat him up for the last
• 1:09:15
  10 rounds. I don't think Tenshin won more than
• 1:09:18
  three rounds in that fight. Maybe four. You could
• 1:09:22
  probably give him four. It would be generous
• 1:09:23
  to give him four. Yeah. And Tenshin looked exactly
• 1:09:28
  like I think Tenshin, like, his boxing level
• 1:09:32
  is where I think it is. I am pretty sure. He's
• 1:09:36
  not quite world class. I think any of the belt
• 1:09:40
  holders beat the piss out of him. Who are the
• 1:09:43
  other belt holders? He's world class, but he's
• 1:09:46
  not that, like, top. Yeah. So, well, in my heart,
• 1:09:51
  Seisatsumi, but they fucked him. Belt holders
• 1:09:56
  right now. One is vacant. Antonio Vargas has
• 1:10:00
  the WBA. Takuma won the WBC. This was to get
• 1:10:06
  one of the belts that Nakatani dropped. Yeah.
• 1:10:11
  And then the other one's Christian Medina. I
• 1:10:15
  don't... I gotta look at his face. I'm not sure
• 1:10:21
  I know who Christian Medina is. Oh, he's got
• 1:10:25
  that, like, comic book hairstyle. He beat Yoshiki
• 1:10:30
  Takei. Oh, okay, I know who he is. Uh, yeah,
• 1:10:36
  Medina's good, but, like, he's gonna beat the
• 1:10:40
  fucking Kisada Takuma, too. Er, uh, attention.
• 1:10:47
  Is his nickname the Viking? No. Wrong. Christian
• 1:10:52
  Medina. I hate trying to find people on BoxRec.
• 1:10:58
  He's fifth in the bantamweight. Yeah. He beat...
• 1:11:07
  So his last loss was to Nishida, who I think
• 1:11:13
  is quite good, too. Yeah, this guy definitely...
• 1:11:19
  beats tension tensions that just underneath being
• 1:11:25
  able to hold the belt to me inexperienced and
• 1:11:30
  I think that Takuma proved that really well inexperienced
• 1:11:36
  and just like I know tension was a fucking savant
• 1:11:41
  at kickboxing like I don't try and pretend he
• 1:11:46
  wasn't or take that away from him but he doesn't
• 1:11:48
  have that much power boxing yeah he's not hurting
• 1:11:53
  anybody and he cut really cool angles in kickboxing
• 1:11:58
  but they're not that cool in boxing because it's
• 1:12:05
  not setting up anything do you know what i mean
• 1:12:08
  yeah i just I do have a personal hate for him.
• 1:12:15
  But I just also think he's not that talented
• 1:12:17
  at boxing. It makes sense he came over. It makes
• 1:12:21
  sense he wants to make more money. But he's always
• 1:12:24
  going to be that ranked but never winning a title,
• 1:12:28
  I think. Perennial contender? Yeah, if he does
• 1:12:33
  get a title, it's going to be taking a title
• 1:12:35
  from someone who's not that great. Or winning
• 1:12:40
  a vacant one. A vacant one. Yeah. Like, honest
• 1:12:46
  to God, I think even Kenneth Lover, who has less
• 1:12:49
  boxing matches, beats Tension. Like... Damn.
• 1:12:55
  I just... I don't think he's that good, and I
• 1:12:59
  fucking hate his personality so much. I will
• 1:13:02
  say, Takuma got, like, bonus points from me,
• 1:13:06
  because in the post -fight interview, he was
• 1:13:08
  like, I don't care that much about the belt.
• 1:13:10
  i just wanted to beat tension that's like yes
• 1:13:14
  good work son go on my son yeah yeah oh and this
• 1:13:23
  is i guess news probably not news but did you
• 1:13:27
  see um uh naoya has gone with the pink hair no
• 1:13:36
  What? Yeah. So light pink hair is very popular
• 1:13:40
  here right now. Naoya dyed his hair this. It's
• 1:13:46
  almost blonde, but it's like a hint of pink.
• 1:13:49
  Strawberry blonde? No, that's kind of a different
• 1:13:54
  color. Powder pink? Romance anime character.
• 1:14:00
  I know what you're talking about. Not the bright
• 1:14:04
  pink, but like that soft pink. Yeah. Like a cherry
• 1:14:09
  blossom. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Doesn't look very
• 1:14:15
  good. I am not behind this, but... But yeah.
• 1:14:25
  No, I am so happy Takuma won. I don't know what's
• 1:14:32
  going on next. in that weight class. Well, I
• 1:14:36
  do know what's happening next. In two weeks,
• 1:14:39
  Tsutsumi's fighting for the interim. The fuck?
• 1:14:44
  They put Vargas champion in recess now? The fuck
• 1:14:49
  is the WBA doing? I've asked myself that question
• 1:14:54
  a lot since I started watching boxing, like,
• 1:14:59
  intently. Okay, so... Because this must have
• 1:15:03
  just happened because I think I looked like two
• 1:15:05
  weeks ago. But they've got Vargas on boxing scene
• 1:15:10
  listed as champion in recess. They recessed Tsutsumi
• 1:15:14
  after like two months. Like, what the fuck? Anyways,
• 1:15:17
  Tsutsumi Donair is in two weeks and I have a
• 1:15:20
  ticket and I'm so excited. Are you taking your
• 1:15:23
  Punchburger banner? I bought a new cheer shirt.
• 1:15:28
  Yes, I am going to take the banner as well. But
• 1:15:30
  I got a new cheer shirt. I told myself I wouldn't
• 1:15:35
  buy two shirts from the same boxer, but I did.
• 1:15:40
  The first one from Tsutsumi is black with white
• 1:15:43
  writing and it's all in English. It kind of looks
• 1:15:47
  like a Jack Daniels bottle label. I think that
• 1:15:49
  was the inspiration. Bad aesthetic, yeah. Yeah,
• 1:15:52
  but this one's... uh burgundy actually pretty
• 1:15:56
  similar to the shirt i have on now and uh black
• 1:15:59
  japanese writing so i figured they were different
• 1:16:02
  enough i could justify it i love when merch is
• 1:16:07
  not black i have way too many fucking black shirts
• 1:16:11
  yeah i don't know as a chubby lady i like black
• 1:16:17
  but uh i really like the dark red too so I'm
• 1:16:21
  excited about it. I would have went for it if
• 1:16:23
  I saw it was dark red. Yeah. And Inouye has new
• 1:16:29
  cheer shirts, but they're fucking ugly, like
• 1:16:30
  always. I don't have a nice Inouye shirt, and
• 1:16:35
  it makes me mad. For either brother, their shirts
• 1:16:39
  suck. Well, if you go to the Lux Media shop...
• 1:16:46
  Actually, some of our merch is quite nice. The
• 1:16:51
  chibi, in a way. No, chibi Japanese monster boxer
• 1:16:57
  is what it is. Yeah, yeah. That one, and just
• 1:17:01
  the B -Sides logo one is quite nice as well.
• 1:17:08
  Simplicity. Any more shit to rub in my face for
• 1:17:15
  Takuma beating Tension? Nah, I was right. Yeah.
• 1:17:20
  That's all I gotta say. He pretty much called
• 1:17:22
  it exactly how it went down. Tension's just not
• 1:17:27
  that good. I don't know who Takuma should fight
• 1:17:31
  next, though, to be honest. I'm always up for
• 1:17:35
  another belt holder. Unifications are always
• 1:17:38
  good for me. Medina, then? I don't think he wants
• 1:17:42
  to fight Seiya Tsutsumi again. Can't imagine
• 1:17:45
  he would. Not without a belt on the line, anyway.
• 1:17:50
  Well, I mean, after Tsutsumi beats Donera, there
• 1:17:53
  should be a belt, but... Higa is listed as...
• 1:17:59
  So, number one in the WBA is vacant right now,
• 1:18:04
  but Higa is listed as number two. I almost guarantee
• 1:18:09
  that they do Tsutsumi Higa three. Can we get
• 1:18:18
  another draw? I mean, it would be really funny.
• 1:18:24
  But... So I think... I might be wrong, but I
• 1:18:28
  think that's kind of taken. Estrada's high on,
• 1:18:35
  like, most of the lists. Takuma Estrada might
• 1:18:39
  be cool. Yeah, Estrada's still serviceable. Or
• 1:18:43
  at least we'll find out if he is. Maybe throw
• 1:18:45
  him in with Tsuboi. Yeah. Oh, actually, no, no,
• 1:18:51
  shit. I'm having my memory problems. They're
• 1:18:56
  talking about Takuma Ioka early next year. Interesting.
• 1:19:02
  So Ioka's moving up. No, Ioka's in that weight
• 1:19:07
  class. Oh, I thought he was at 115. Nope. Hasn't
• 1:19:11
  been for a while. Ioka's got his New Year's Eve
• 1:19:15
  standard. Against some guy I didn't recognize.
• 1:19:20
  At the hotel gym? Yep. Of course. I'm considering
• 1:19:25
  buying a ticket. Just because. Tradition. And
• 1:19:30
  Hyouka's getting old. I can't imagine he's going
• 1:19:32
  to be around much longer. No, I remember seeing
• 1:19:35
  you in the chat saying this might be the last
• 1:19:37
  Hyouka fight. One of the last Hyouka fights.
• 1:19:40
  It might be his last New Year's. I'm not going
• 1:19:43
  to lie. I might just bite the bullet. The only
• 1:19:48
  problem is it's on the other side of Tokyo. So
• 1:19:53
  getting back on the train before they stop for
• 1:19:57
  New Year's. I don't know why Japan doesn't run
• 1:19:59
  24 -hour trains on New Year's Eve. Like, every
• 1:20:05
  other fucking city in the world does, but Tokyo
• 1:20:10
  doesn't. Anyways, the listeners don't want to
• 1:20:17
  listen to me about Japanese boxing anymore. Well,
• 1:20:22
  if you didn't want to hear about Japanese boxing,
• 1:20:25
  then... This is a wrong podcast. Yeah, this is
• 1:20:28
  not the place to be. We got B -sides for you.
• 1:20:33
  Talk more about it. Less about the smaller weight
• 1:20:37
  classes there. Oh, speaking of the not -so -small
• 1:20:42
  weight classes. Upcoming shit. Bash boxing on
• 1:20:48
  Prime Video. Badu Jack vs. Norer Mikaelian. Rematch.
• 1:20:55
  I always gotta back Badu Jack. Whoever this is,
• 1:21:05
  they're Opitaya or Zurdo Food. Whoever wins this.
• 1:21:13
  I guess. I mean, I think Badoo Jack will do what
• 1:21:17
  he always does and barely win. Just enough to
• 1:21:23
  get the decision. Or be really hard done by if
• 1:21:32
  he doesn't win the decision, loses it close.
• 1:21:38
  Or gets a draw. I don't think he's ever had Or
• 1:21:43
  it's been a long time since he really lost -lost.
• 1:21:49
  It does say he was knocked out once, so that
• 1:21:52
  must be pretty... 2014, though. I don't know.
• 1:22:00
  I hope Badoo Jack pulls it out. That last fight
• 1:22:03
  was kind of boring, not gonna lie. It was rough.
• 1:22:07
  I'll watch this one, just because you have to
• 1:22:10
  back the Swedish boxers. Matchroom on DAZN. There's
• 1:22:20
  a bunch of shit on here. Let me just cherry pick
• 1:22:22
  on my way up from the bottom. Chavon Clark versus
• 1:22:25
  Anthony Holloway. Chavon's in an eight -round
• 1:22:29
  fight at Cruiserweight, so that's fun. Arturo
• 1:22:33
  Popoca has a fun name. Ten rounds at Super Bantam.
• 1:22:39
  Oh. Boxing's fucking princess, Skye Nicholson
• 1:22:43
  versus Yuliana Luna Avila. Interim 122. Oh, the
• 1:22:51
  other lady might be an RJ alert. Really? Avila.
• 1:22:55
  Let's have a look. Yeah, I think so. I would
• 1:23:01
  say anyway. It's a double RJ tag. It does look
• 1:23:06
  like she almost exclusively fights in Mexico,
• 1:23:09
  which can be sketchy for women's boxing. She
• 1:23:16
  lost to Dina Thorsland a couple years ago. I
• 1:23:21
  suspect Skye Nicholson will probably pull this
• 1:23:24
  one out. Which sucks, because I don't like Skye
• 1:23:29
  Nicholson. Skye Nicholson Hearn? She hyphenated.
• 1:23:34
  Yeah. Gabe Flores. Still doing it. Versus Joe
• 1:23:44
  Cordina. Huh. This is the Gabe Flores I'm thinking
• 1:23:53
  of, right? Yes, it is. He has a very squared
• 1:24:03
  up hairline on BoxRec. Oh my goodness, what a
• 1:24:07
  hairline. I'm going to have to cheer for Joe
• 1:24:12
  Cordina on this one. But I have to admit, I don't
• 1:24:14
  know who Gabe Flores is. He was really hyped
• 1:24:18
  as a prospect when he was with Top Rank. He seems
• 1:24:23
  quite busy. And he's been winning. He hasn't
• 1:24:29
  been looking great in his wins, though. Of those
• 1:24:32
  that I've seen. Okay. I don't know. I like Joe
• 1:24:37
  Cordina. I don't think anyone else does, but
• 1:24:41
  I do. And Diego Pacheco versus Kevin Lele Sajo.
• 1:24:50
  I mean, Pacheco should win? Question mark? Yeah,
• 1:24:55
  you'd think. 24 -0 Pacheco versus 26 -0 Sajo.
• 1:25:03
  Who mostly fights in France. Well, now I have
• 1:25:07
  to cheer against him. He also lives in France,
• 1:25:12
  so I guess we're Pacheco bros this time. He's
• 1:25:17
  from Cameroon. Honestly, I like Pacheco. Yeah,
• 1:25:23
  I do too. I kind of hope he's as good as people
• 1:25:27
  think he is, but I don't think he's as good as
• 1:25:29
  people think he is. What makes you think that?
• 1:25:35
  I just think people are too excited about him.
• 1:25:38
  Nothing he's done, really. But people are talking
• 1:25:43
  about him like he's going to be the next whatever.
• 1:25:48
  Yeah. The next Canelo. That's not a good comparison.
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• 1:32:10
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  and Badoo. Bye.