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Grammy Award-winning recording artist, Michelle Williams, is "Getting Real about Depression · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: You can go into that direction I'm gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: some of my experiences that she shared some of experiences,
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  Speaker 1: and my next guest is Michelle Williams. Who is Michelle Williams.
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  Speaker 1: She's a Grammar Award winning recording artists and actress. One
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite people who rose to stardom as the
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  Speaker 1: member of the R and B R and B Mega
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  Speaker 1: Group or Iconic Mega Group, Destiny Child, and most recently
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  Speaker 1: appeared as the butterfly S Are on the hit series
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  Speaker 1: Mass Singer. Michelle is passionate about raising awareness and mental health,
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  Speaker 1: about sharing the lessons she has learned in her own
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  Speaker 1: struggle with depression. She's on the show discussed her very
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  Speaker 1: first book, Checking in How Getting Real about Depression saved
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  Speaker 1: My life and can save yours. Michelle Sayah is an
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  Speaker 1: intermitted never before told stories about how even in the
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  Speaker 1: midst of enormous famous success, she battled depression, leading to
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  Speaker 1: her to find a true calling as an advocate for
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  Speaker 1: mental health, especially her own Please work with the money
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  Speaker 1: making conversations to Nitra Michelle Williams, how you doing? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: name you know, I'm gonna start out with the name first,
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  Speaker 1: because my name is Rushan McDonald and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people over the years have always remember that. I remember,
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  Speaker 1: like twenty two years old and this guy came to me.
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  Speaker 1: I was working with what is your name because people
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  Speaker 1: say I let people say Russian or Rushan or Chin.
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  Speaker 1: They just said in any kind of way. He said,
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  Speaker 1: make it. He said, make make a decision about your name.
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  Speaker 1: And when when I made that decision about my name,
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  Speaker 1: it really defined who I am today because I stuck
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  Speaker 1: with I fought forward and I and I held onto
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  Speaker 1: it and that and then today it defines me. I
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  Speaker 1: would tell people I was a Rickey or Ronald or
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  Speaker 1: or anything else, I probably wouldn't be the person I am.
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  Speaker 1: In some ways I'll be successful, but it gave me
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  Speaker 1: an extra bonus. And to here, when I started reading
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  Speaker 1: about this in the very early part of the book
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  Speaker 1: your name, it played a big role. I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about that whole process because it plays out today
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  Speaker 1: when I wanted to make sure that I introduce you
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  Speaker 1: with your whole name, not just the middle name Michelle
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  Speaker 1: to Nitro, a beautiful name. Let's talk about that. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much. Yes, so my first name is Tunitra.
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  Speaker 1: My middle name is Michelle, and I remember having to
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  Speaker 1: make that decision on me not using Tantra, and um,
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  Speaker 1: if you read the book, you know the reason ra
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  Speaker 1: shine because you read the book. So I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I want to give away the reason, Well I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that. I'm not asking you give away
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  Speaker 1: a reason. I think because my reason was and there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people said down there, that's why the
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  Speaker 1: book is relatable to me because you know we do.
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  Speaker 1: You know we do? You can continue Michelle, Yes, sir,
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  Speaker 1: so I you know making that decision. Well do I
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  Speaker 1: want to go by Tuntra or Michelle? Um? Now the
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  Speaker 1: reason presented, you're gonna have to get the book because
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  Speaker 1: if you don't want to if I give it a way, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so um I, But what I will say is obviously
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  Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't go on to have a problem
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  Speaker 1: with the name change because I felt like it afforded me.
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  Speaker 1: It afforded my family to have a piece of me
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  Speaker 1: still because the world is getting everything right now there,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm away from home. I'm
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  Speaker 1: having to sacrifice being at graduations, baby showers, fish fries,
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  Speaker 1: everything that I normally would be with my family. And
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  Speaker 1: so when I come home, I felt like they were
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  Speaker 1: getting to Nitra, right. But then at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, well, so you're saying, so, then what was
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  Speaker 1: the world getting? We were getting you and who you
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  Speaker 1: really are, And it's like, yes, you were, but there
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  Speaker 1: are so many entertainers who I mean you got people
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  Speaker 1: say The Rock, for instance, you're still getting him, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if his parents or family members are
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  Speaker 1: calling him the Rock. Get what I'm saying. You know,
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  Speaker 1: The interesting thing about it is that you're not the
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  Speaker 1: first person that deals enter. I remember talking to him
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  Speaker 1: about that, you know, The Rock says called me Dwayne Johnson,
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  Speaker 1: fifty cents Curtis Jackson. So there are a lot of
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  Speaker 1: issues with names because they can't define you, and it's
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  Speaker 1: important that people understand that names respect and also accountability
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  Speaker 1: and also in this case, Brandy, you know you're branded
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  Speaker 1: right now? Is Michelle Williams and an incredible singer, member
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  Speaker 1: of the iconic Destiny's Child, a great actress, a motivator, uh,
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  Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. But then there is you know, yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that definitely, at least the past ten years,
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  Speaker 1: for sure, y'all have been getting to n okay and
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  Speaker 1: that's the blessing of this conversation because I, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because you we just sit in my office and when
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  Speaker 1: I was in Chicago all the time and Steve Harvey
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  Speaker 1: talk show and we'd have conversations and so and I
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  Speaker 1: and I. You know, I'm not saying I noticed anything,
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  Speaker 1: but I started seeing a different level of independence. And
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  Speaker 1: you're trying to find yourself, your your when you put
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  Speaker 1: your footprint in is that my footprint is somebody else's footprint.
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  Speaker 1: But we can talk about those journeys. And that's why
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about because it led to your book.
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  Speaker 1: It led to the revelations that I'm not being me
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  Speaker 1: because success is really and that's what I loved about
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  Speaker 1: the book because it talks about success and defining how
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  Speaker 1: success can lead to destructive behavior or destructive lifestyle, just emotionally.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes people think destructive physically has to be physical
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  Speaker 1: and but the middle part of it is really the
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  Speaker 1: part that can also hurt the most. Correct. Absolutely, there
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  Speaker 1: are so many people coming into the entertainment industry or
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  Speaker 1: even in the world of sports. Um physically, obviously you
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  Speaker 1: might be doing all right, and you're strong in football,
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  Speaker 1: you're doing you know, you've got scouts going to the combine,
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  Speaker 1: you're you're running fast, or in the world of entertainment,
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  Speaker 1: you're looking good, you're singing good, or you act really good,
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  Speaker 1: whatever that whatever that is. But so many of us
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  Speaker 1: are coming into these spaces um with dysfunction, with wounds
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  Speaker 1: really that stem from childhood and then they start to
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  Speaker 1: manifest um tremendously in your adulthood. And when it's gone unchecked,
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  Speaker 1: it can lead to some really serious problems, right, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and like you have beautiful parents. First for the bookish
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  Speaker 1: dedicate to your dad. So let's let's let's make sure
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  Speaker 1: we get that clear. You know what she says, those
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  Speaker 1: stids you know, uh, you know as and sisters, twin sisters, brother,
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  Speaker 1: so you know all these the facts you get from
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  Speaker 1: the book. See, that's how I kind of doing left
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  Speaker 1: better that because I read uh and and this book
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  Speaker 1: here when I when I started looking at myself as
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  Speaker 1: that because this is what I love about the book
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  Speaker 1: that we're talking about talking to Michelle Williams checking in
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  Speaker 1: how getting real about depression saved my life and can
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  Speaker 1: save yours, is that when you live a life out
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  Speaker 1: in the open book, that's where it becomes especially with
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  Speaker 1: social media because you your career was tied to social media.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it blew up during that area, the Internet
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  Speaker 1: era blew up during Destiny Child era, So you couldn't hide,
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  Speaker 1: you couldn't run. Your photos were taken, they were being posted,
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  Speaker 1: so everything. So you almost, from an emotional standpoint, you
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  Speaker 1: really couldn't live a life of secrecy because you was
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  Speaker 1: always being exposed by cameras and paparazzi's and tmz. That
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  Speaker 1: led a lot to you trying to define yourself. And
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about defining who Michelle is and and and
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  Speaker 1: when I say that, I want you to talk a
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  Speaker 1: little it. But then I'm gonna go back to you know,
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  Speaker 1: you attending Illinois State, because I think that's a part
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  Speaker 1: of the conversation we need to talk about, because it
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  Speaker 1: helps to find where we're gonna go with the future.
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  Speaker 1: Because I think your future is going back to college.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that's another consisting Rashaan, I kid you not. Literally,
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  Speaker 1: maybe about ten minutes before I logged on here, I
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  Speaker 1: literally was finishing up my conversation with the university about
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  Speaker 1: my fall enrollment to get a bachelors in psychology. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was telling my staff I said, I said, because
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  Speaker 1: they always said, Richelle, you know you're gonna tell people
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  Speaker 1: what's on your mind anyway, you know you And I said,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta tell us you gotta go back to college.
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  Speaker 1: I said, because that's a part of our life that's
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  Speaker 1: important to defying herself. Because you're successful, Michelle, you know now,
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  Speaker 1: I just want you to live your life. Now. You
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  Speaker 1: don't have to prove anything to anybody. You're beautiful, you gifted,
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  Speaker 1: you care, you have a legacy. Now what is your legacy?
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  Speaker 1: But you're you're I'm talking to your legacy. You're like,
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  Speaker 1: you know. One of the reasons, you know, when I
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  Speaker 1: talk about my my life with Steve Harvey and I
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  Speaker 1: was telling my team was that I remember when, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know a lot of people in as a stand
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  Speaker 1: up comedian. And so that's how Steve Harvey and I met.
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  Speaker 1: We were doing stand up. He was my opening act.
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  Speaker 1: And as he became successful and uh, and I was
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  Speaker 1: still being the stand up And people just always tell me, what, Sean,
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  Speaker 1: you're just as funny as Steve Harvey. I go that
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to do stand up? Oh no, why hey,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to stand up? Okay, just because that's
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  Speaker 1: a decision I make. I'm making so and so, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm that very happy. I decided not to do stand
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  Speaker 1: up because I'm doing what I want to do. I
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  Speaker 1: love produce it, I love managing. I love being creative.
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  Speaker 1: And then God is giving me his gifts. And so
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  Speaker 1: God gives us a lot of blessing. That doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: that you have to act on the blessing. And so
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  Speaker 1: God is giving this tremendous gift to sing, to entertain,
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  Speaker 1: but just one of the blessings. And so that's where
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  Speaker 1: my conversation today when I said to my team, as
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  Speaker 1: I gotta tell Michelle, you gotta go back to college.
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  Speaker 1: She gotta go. She had to live out that blessing
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  Speaker 1: and God put her down that path and another gift
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  Speaker 1: took her offer. But she got to go back to
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  Speaker 1: the original blessing, which she wanted to be criminal justice
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  Speaker 1: in Illinois State. She has to go back for that.
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  Speaker 1: And to hear you say that, just perfect phone call,
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  Speaker 1: life of you know, being able to do what you
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  Speaker 1: to take that because I get confirmation a league of
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  Speaker 1: this next path, and that is to help others. Now
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  Speaker 1: I can continue to help others just through my testimony,
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  Speaker 1: me to just explore all of my talents, I would
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  Speaker 1: give to everything. I will not cheat you. I will
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  Speaker 1: so over. People always say, why are you multitached? You're
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  Speaker 1: such good Because I made a commitment. I made a
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  Speaker 1: commitment that he he told me, I can do all
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  Speaker 1: these things. I have to. I have to do what
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  Speaker 1: I say. And so so when I look at you,
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  Speaker 1: you're one of those people with a lot of talents.
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  Speaker 1: And so now when and what's been fortunate for me,
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  Speaker 1: I've been able to complete some of those things, like
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  Speaker 1: I got my to college degree. You know everything that
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  Speaker 1: you know. I went to IBY. I wanted to do that.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to be successful comedi. I wanted to be one.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm willing to walk away from certain things. And
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: so when I read the book, this is what's happened
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  Speaker 1: to you that I want to use the word courage,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: but the willingness to look in the mirror. So you know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: so I'm good with that. I'm good. I can walk
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  Speaker 1: away and be Michelle. And when I'm hearing you talk
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  Speaker 1: right now, it didn't matter that you I didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to hear you singing. I wanted you were motivating me.
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  Speaker 1: You were encouraging me, you were empowering me because I
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  Speaker 1: heard an honest tone of like uplift from you and
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: you didn't sing a note. And that's why it was
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: so beautiful. And that's why I was like, this is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a great interview because for the first time
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: she and I can just talk and talk about my flaws,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: talk about her flaws, talk about how her book is
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: making me a better person and making me understand that
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I too walk that journey and how I handled it
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: and maybe I can help her with some advice on
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: how she can handle it too. But my number one
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: thing is be yourself. Mm hmm. That's so good. Let's see,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: every time you and I talking, you just give me,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: even if it's just something practical. I appreciate you for that.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Thank you well, I appreciate you. I've always appreciated you
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: in this book. Um, when I when I, when I
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: look at this book and I because I interview a lot,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I probably read, I've interviewed probably with six people on
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: money making conversations, read at least a hundred and fifty books,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: and each book tells a different story. But when I
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: get a book like your book that talks about decisions,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: talked about living your gifts, about making the decisions for you,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: and that's what this book is about right now, Michelle,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: So as we as we go into this interview, why
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: was this so important? To really write this book. WHOA. UM, well,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: you have probably encouraged people to tell their own stories
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: and not to let anybody else tell the story for them.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: And that's just where I was, is UM. When I
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: go back to the year eighteen and when I was
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: when I was hospitalized in you know, I could imagine
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  Speaker 1: the thoughts that were running in people's heads. Not that
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: it's really anybody's business, but by the time I felt
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  Speaker 1: like the way in which I had to release a
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: statement about my hospitalization because TMZ found out and I
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: did not want some narrative out there. So you know,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I was able to craft a statement while I'm in
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the hospital seeking treatment for depression and anxiety. UM, I
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: had to release a statement and tell people, yes, I
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: in fact have been in the hospital. I'm actually you know,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: taking the advice that I myself give to others, which
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: is to seek help and um. And then fast forward
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: to the year twenty nineteen when the book process started.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: It was healing for me and it was restored it
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: for me. And I don't know if it's a part
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: of me that wants to have a little bit of control,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: but it was to kind of take the power back
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: in the shame that we're in those two words checking
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: in because I felt like a hypocrite. I was embarrassed,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: especially when I people kind of found out I didn't.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Now that's the good thing about being Tunitra is you
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: know I called myself being able to check into the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: hospital under that name, but someone still found out. Um.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: But it was to take the power back, um, and
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: to tell my own story, but to give another person
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: maybe a name to maybe what it is they're feeling
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: because I didn't get a proper diagnosis until I was
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: in my thirties. So can you imagine a young person
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: right now that's reading that book that can say, oh
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: my gosh, maybe this is what it is. But I
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: still advise you to go get an assessment. Don't just
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: read my book and say, oh I'm depressed. It's the
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: same thing as going on Google. Google gonna tell you
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: fit a die, you know when you try to when
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: you google a symptom or something. So please, by all means,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: it's just to give a be a supplement and a
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: guide to maybe what someone else is going through and
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: how they can overcome. I am I'm just there and
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: at you, and with a smile, I'm actually talking to
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: a beautiful person who is defining their future. This is amazingly,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: this is an amazing encouragement for me, for anybody who's listening.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: And because what happens is you know changed. It's a
• 23:47
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• 23:49
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• 23:52
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• 23:55
  Speaker 1: an actress, Knowing is your famous. But the unknown is
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: does anybody want to hear this? But I'm gonna just
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: tell you something right now to NTRA. I want to
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: hear it because you are articulating it in such a
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: tone of motivation, honesty of uh, your captain and my
• 24:14
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• 24:17
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  Speaker 1: or what we write. And I was like, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: because we know the future to be as something to come.
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  Speaker 1: M m hmmm, Like, oh, I can define my future
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  Speaker 1: really you know, because I was just going through the
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  Speaker 1: process making money. A lot of great decisions were being
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  Speaker 1: made in my career for me or by me or
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  Speaker 1: and but but people to tell me I was successful,
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  Speaker 1: But I didn't understand success. I didn't understand my gifts.
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  Speaker 1: And so my whole thing now is that for the
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  Speaker 1: started living my life as with Sean McDonald. I stopped
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  Speaker 1: using words like lucky, right places at the right time,
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  Speaker 1: because your book talks about that, and the beginning you
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  Speaker 1: look at your book talking about somebody made a phone
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  Speaker 1: call and you just happen to get this. The word
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  Speaker 1: luck comes into play there, and it's really not. Your
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  Speaker 1: gifts came into play there, but you were not clearly
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  Speaker 1: understanding your gifts. They were just it just it just
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  Speaker 1: pushed you in certain direction that the opportunity was tied
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  Speaker 1: to that, to that moment. And so now in my
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  Speaker 1: my forties, I realized that I'm not lucky, I'm gifted.
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  Speaker 1: God is giving me all these gifts. Now I have
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  Speaker 1: to apply them properly. And one of the persons who
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  Speaker 1: achieved that foundation of me, the rest luction of understanding
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  Speaker 1: what words, was Steve Harvey. And so because all those
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  Speaker 1: gifts are poured into his career and allowed him to
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  Speaker 1: become the person and we both benefited from that level
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  Speaker 1: of success. So when you say it's it's a some
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: people get it in eighteen. Some people get from the
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  Speaker 1: sixteen have a clear understanding the direction. All you're getting
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: right now, Michelle, is an undis assessment of yourself and
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: what you want to do. That's what you're doing right now.
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  Speaker 1: That's why it's important that we talk. I can't wait
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: to see you because I owe you a big hug.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I owe you sit down and walk in the park
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: just just something normal, just a normal Rashan McDonald talking
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  Speaker 1: to a normal Michelle to Nietra Michelle Williams, that's what
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  Speaker 1: I Atlanta. Okay, well come on now I owe your meal.
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  Speaker 1: We will connect this week. Seriously. I literally I just
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  Speaker 1: became an official Georgia resident. I got my license, you real.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Then we won't connect because I got I bought a
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: building here. I believe me. We're going to talk because
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I would love that because before we run out of time,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about the book to it that
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you're kind of coming up here. You know, the topics
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: ranging for all these celebrities or your book to the
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: story that may tight you know, Roger p Henson, Lacre,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: that's my boy, Tina Lost and that's m girl Latonia Lucky.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about this, uh, this book to it just
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  Speaker 1: virtual to it that you hosted. Correct, Yes, it's a
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: conversations with Michelle Williams. Um as it relates to my
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: book checking in. And some of the topics are identity, UM, anxiety, depression,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: singleness um. And we've got some great names. We've got
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Divon Franklin chand Lamore, Tabatha Brown, She's gonna, We're gonna
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: be talking about what the topic was supposed to be community,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: but she and I just talked about so much her
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: health and um like tag like you said, lacraid, LaToya
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  Speaker 1: luck At, Tina Lost and Chloe Bailey. Dr Caroline Leif
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: who is a neural scientist and can break stuff down.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: She is phenomenal. Dr India Phillips as well, UM some
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: a great mixture of um, you know, celebrities, you know,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: giving some practical advice. And then we've got to We've
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: got Dr India Phillips that's a psychologist, and I named
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Dr Caroline Leaf as a neuroscientist, um who can also
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: kind of scientifically, um kind of break down what the
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: mind and brain goes through. Well, you know, I'm just
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I am smiling. I am at you because I am
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  Speaker 1: talking to I'm talking to you now, I'm talking to
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  Speaker 1: the Nuetra. I'm talking to a person. You know the words.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody has written a song for you, now, nobody has
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  Speaker 1: told you a beat, nobody's told you a chore at
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: graft to move it in this conversation. And I want
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  Speaker 1: these interviews. I want you to be you. I want
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  Speaker 1: you to be to Ntra. I want you to be
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: that eighteen year old who wanted to go to Illinois State,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: who wanted to major in criminal justice. But you had
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: this big old gift, this ability to the sing, and
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  Speaker 1: you will you and you will and you will, uh say,
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  Speaker 1: not sure how to go because you're a church girl
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  Speaker 1: and you had that second over there, that secondly that
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  Speaker 1: you know, battling that so you always had that battle.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: And so so what God has done for you, now,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: this is what He's done for you. He set you
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: on another path to be you. And these interviews Claude Bailey,
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  Speaker 1: you know, J p hen To, look, Craze, these ain't
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: names you just throw out that people don't. I'm these people.
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  Speaker 1: These people they spend time with you, they love you,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: they believe in and you know, Tarager, she just finished
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  Speaker 1: a healing show for faith Facebook watch when we was
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: talking about people coming in, she just finished a healing show. Look,
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  Speaker 1: Craize just came off that book Healing, Finding God, Understanding
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  Speaker 1: Religion His Way, you know. And and so I just
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: look at all this and Devine, frankly we all know
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: about him. And Tamar Bractice interviewed her, and you know,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: so when I look at you and this tour I
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  Speaker 1: just see a next step for you. And what I
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  Speaker 1: want to say to you, Michelle, be you, Be you girl,
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  Speaker 1: Be the person I'm talking to right now. Be honest,
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  Speaker 1: uh and lead us and lead these people. Don't be
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  Speaker 1: don't don't be caught up, and they might be leading
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  Speaker 1: them like I've been leading people for years. Sitting there
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  Speaker 1: telling the truth. You are a leader, young lady. You
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  Speaker 1: are talking the truth. Share your story, and when you
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  Speaker 1: share your story, people will listen. And when they listen,
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  Speaker 1: they want to hear how they can be led, and
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: they be led in a positive manner. You are. You're
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: so close to what you want to be in life. Now,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: don't stop. You're on the edge. You're looking, You're looking
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: across the mountain top. Go over it, climbing. That's all
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I'm saying right now, come on, come on, That's all
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Now. When I go over, I'm gonna need
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: the parachute. Don't worry about it. Don't worry. It's gonna
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: be so many people waiting on you with their arms open,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: talking about thank you, talking about I need you, talking
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: about who you can help. It's gonna be so many
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: people waiting for this, to need your Michelle Williams. This
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: version that you of life, This is your next version
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  Speaker 1: many lives in my and I've been for I'm living
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: in another path when I left Steve really living a
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: life I wanted to live when I was eighteen to
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: twenty four. That's when I'm living right now. And so
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you right now, that eighteen year old kid,
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  Speaker 1: you're you're living that life right now, and so what happens.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I always tell people between eighteen and twenty four, that's
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: really when you wanted to be, when you was ambitious,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: when you had dreams and that were different from other people.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Now you're living a life right now that will make
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: that eighteen to twenty four years work for you. Just
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: leading with honestly, yes, sir, yes, sir, yeah, leading with honesty,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: leading with the ability to understand that you are great.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to take the time just to talk
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: to you. You are in Atlanta. We will connect and
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: bring by an office when we eat dinner, because I
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  Speaker 1: got a built in We're gonna dessert you asking for
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  Speaker 1: all that people to take photos, But more important, I
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  Speaker 1: got a garden in the back, I got ocre back
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  Speaker 1: all that I need about Sunds word, don't worry about,
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  Speaker 1: don't word about. When you leave, I'm gonna leave you
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  Speaker 1: and leave with the cake. But Shell, first of all,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: I want to wrap in this interview and just say
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I am so blessed to talk to you now this version.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, don't get me wrong. You always
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: be one of my favorite people. But to hear you
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: talking the way you're talking now as tantra, yeah, oh
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: my god, oh my god. The blessings are gonna be
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  Speaker 1: just over. So go to that mountaintop when you look over,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I swear to you, it's gonna be so many people
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  Speaker 1: are gonna make you cry, and you're gonna slide down
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  Speaker 1: that here because you're gonna have to. They've got the
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  Speaker 1: part the ways they're gonna go. What what took you
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: so long? Where it took me for the one year?
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: But I'm here, y'all, I'm here, Come on, Yes, Thank you,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: thank you Michelle coming on to nature, Michelle Willen for
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  Speaker 1: coming on money making conversation. Thank you, thank you Mr
• 36:09
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