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Corruption, Regulations & Saving you Billions w EPA Chief Lee Zeldin · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We've got a very special conversation that we are about
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  Speaker 1: to have with the EPA administrator at Lee Zelden. I
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  Speaker 1: am coming to you live from Midland, Texas, where the
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  Speaker 1: ep administrator is doing some incredible work for the people
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  Speaker 1: of this country with deregulation. We're going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: that he's also found an astounding amount of waste fraud abuse,
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  Speaker 1: and also that the Democratic Party under Joe Biden's leadership
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  Speaker 1: had basically radicalized the EPA to be nothing more than
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  Speaker 1: a liberal soapbox for the Green New Deal and giving
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  Speaker 1: money to their friends that advocated for global warming extremism.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to expose all of that.
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  Speaker 1: As sender Cruz and I set down with the EPA administrator,
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  Speaker 1: Lee Zelden, I want you to hear more of what
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  Speaker 1: was said.
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  Speaker 2: It's truly incredible.
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  Speaker 3: Ben, you and I are in Midland, Texas. Midland is
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  Speaker 3: an extraordinary town. Midland is is the I believe, the
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  Speaker 3: most entrepreneurial city on the face of the planet. It
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  Speaker 3: is driving the shale revolution, it is driving energy production
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  Speaker 3: in Texas and America. And we're here with a special guest.
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  Speaker 3: We're here with the administrator of the EPA, Lee Zeldon. Now.
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  Speaker 3: Lee is a good friend. I'm going to introduce him
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  Speaker 3: to you momentarily. Lee is a veteran. He spent twenty
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  Speaker 3: two years in active duty in the reserves. He was
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  Speaker 3: a member of Congress for eight years from the great
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  Speaker 3: State of New York. I'll tell you I actually went
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  Speaker 3: and campaigned with Lee when he first ran. I went
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  Speaker 3: to Long Island and campaigned alongside him. He is smart,
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  Speaker 3: he is principled, He is a fighter. Lee was almost
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  Speaker 3: the governor of New York. Lee should have been the
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  Speaker 3: governor of New York. It would have been much better
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  Speaker 3: for the entire state of New York if Lee had
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  Speaker 3: been the governor of New York. But tragically, New Yorkers
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  Speaker 3: decided they wanted more crime and less jobs and more insanity,
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  Speaker 3: and so they voted to re elect Democrats. And I
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  Speaker 3: will say the loss to the Great State of New
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  Speaker 3: York ended up being a win to the United States
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  Speaker 3: of America, because if Lee were governor of New York,
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  Speaker 3: he would not have been able to say yes to
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  Speaker 3: the job he's in now, which is administrator of the EPA.
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  Speaker 3: The EPA has a massive impact on our lives, on
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  Speaker 3: our health and safety, but also on the economy. And
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Lee'zelden is the very first administrator
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  Speaker 3: of the EPA in history to come to the Permian Basin,
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  Speaker 3: to come to the middle of Odessa. He came because
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  Speaker 3: I invited him to come.
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  Speaker 4: Lee.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome to Verdict Center.
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  Speaker 5: Cruz, it's great to be with you on the ground
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  Speaker 5: in Texas. You feel the freedom here. I mean he's
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  Speaker 5: leaving the airport. I'm thinking of all that budget surplus
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  Speaker 5: government being well run.
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  Speaker 4: A whole lot of New Yorkers have come down in Texas.
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  Speaker 4: They're not looking back.
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  Speaker 5: A whole lot of people fleeing these blue states and
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  Speaker 5: they're heading to these freedom loving states because they feel
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  Speaker 5: like their money is going to go further.
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  Speaker 4: They'll feel safer, they'll live life freer.
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  Speaker 5: Senator Cruz, You've been at the tip of this beer
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  Speaker 5: here in Texas and it's been an awesome day. When
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  Speaker 5: I end up heading back to DC, as you well know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to be heading back with some oil stains
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  Speaker 5: here on the boots, my own little souvenir that you
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  Speaker 5: provided to me and the staffers who enjoyed the trip
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  Speaker 5: to the rig and speaking a whole bunch of.
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  Speaker 1: Great Now, what's so cool about you inviting him down
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  Speaker 1: here is you guys went to an oil rig basically
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  Speaker 1: like in the city. You're on it, you're seeing what's
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  Speaker 1: actually happening, and it's shocking that no one in the
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  Speaker 1: EPA role that you're in has ever done this before.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it was fantastic. So we started the day. We
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  Speaker 3: went to a rig that is drilling right now and
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  Speaker 3: they're drilling sixty wells and it's in Midland. It's in
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  Speaker 3: the city, it's not too far from downtown Midland, and
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  Speaker 3: they built baffles around the rig so it doesn't make
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  Speaker 3: much sound, it's not disturbing people. And what they're doing,
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  Speaker 3: they're drilling down. They're going horizontal, and they're going horizontal
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  Speaker 3: under people's homes, under people's businesses. Now, this is a
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  Speaker 3: bonanza for the people in Midland. Why because in Texas, look,
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  Speaker 3: you own your mineral rights. You own the rights to
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  Speaker 3: everything from the surface all the way down to the
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  Speaker 3: core of planet Earth. And that means literally, as they
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  Speaker 3: drill a two and a half mile long horizontal well,
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  Speaker 3: and they're drilling sixty of these, and if they go
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  Speaker 3: under your home, Ben, you know what you get. You
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  Speaker 3: get a check every month, a royalty check. They've literally
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  Speaker 3: got ten thousand people. They might just be sitting in
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  Speaker 3: an ordinary three bedroom home with their kids playing out back,
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  Speaker 3: and they get every week mailbox money of money coming
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  Speaker 3: in because a mile or two miles down this well
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  Speaker 3: is producing oil and producing natural gas. And we saw
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  Speaker 3: it all. It was incredible and it was a lot
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  Speaker 3: of fun.
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  Speaker 5: And the check ends up coming for many decades, like
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  Speaker 5: forty years. And there they said there was one thousand
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  Speaker 5: workers involved in this project. I mean the benefits economically,
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  Speaker 5: the work that they do to protect the environment. I
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  Speaker 5: mean the innovation that they tap into, the way that
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  Speaker 5: they are able to do things better for the economy
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  Speaker 5: and the environment that so many other countries around the
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  Speaker 5: rest of the world. The EPA administrator Ben should be
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  Speaker 5: seeing this stuff firsthand. Every administrator, if you're gonna have
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  Speaker 5: a concern enough to regulate these types of industries, you
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  Speaker 5: should make sure that you get your facts straight, that
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  Speaker 5: you're talking to people on the ground, and that you're
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  Speaker 5: applying common sense.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that I'm.
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  Speaker 5: Gonna be able to do a better job going forward.
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  Speaker 5: And we've hit the ground run and we're almost done
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  Speaker 5: here with the first one hundred days of President Trump's administration.
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  Speaker 5: We have a good team around us, and there's a
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  Speaker 5: lot that we're proud of. I feel like today's visit
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  Speaker 5: will only make our team stronger.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, one of the striking things ben as
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  Speaker 3: Leih and I were touring the rig as he was
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  Speaker 3: looking around, and we were hearing about ten thousand Midlanders
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  Speaker 3: who were getting checks in the mail every month. I
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  Speaker 3: gotta say it was interesting watching Lee's perspective as someone
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  Speaker 3: who represented New York for eight years in Congress and
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  Speaker 3: who ran for governor. And look, there's a significant portion
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  Speaker 3: of New York State that has massive natural gas resources.
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  Speaker 3: The Marcella Shale extends underneath Pennsylvania and New York. And
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  Speaker 3: in Pennsylvania, just like here in West Texas, there are
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  Speaker 3: people making enormous amount of moneys, ordinary families, school teachers,
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  Speaker 3: and cops who are getting mailbox money every month because
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  Speaker 3: of the resources being extracted from their property. And I
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  Speaker 3: got to say, I think Lee was struck that he's
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  Speaker 3: visited with those New Yorkers who have that natural gas
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  Speaker 3: under their property, and yet idiot politicians in New York
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  Speaker 3: won't let them develop it. And it was striking watching
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  Speaker 3: Lee making that operation, and they're.
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  Speaker 4: Desperate to tap into it.
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  Speaker 5: And in New York, they've banned the extraction of natural gas,
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  Speaker 5: they won't improve new pipelines, they're banning gas the new construction.
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  Speaker 5: They're trying to move the state residence off of gas
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  Speaker 5: power vehicles all together.
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  Speaker 4: And that list goes on.
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  Speaker 5: And those people who have all this resource under their property,
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  Speaker 5: and they see over the border in the Pennsylvania where
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  Speaker 5: they are tapping into it, the describe and they're driving
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  Speaker 5: cadillacs on the New York side.
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  Speaker 4: They're not bad policy in New York, good policy in Texas.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go back to something you mentioned earlier,
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  Speaker 1: and this has been a lot of the headlines that
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  Speaker 1: you have been in, is about you uncovering just an
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  Speaker 1: incredible amount of waste within your agency, and you guys
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  Speaker 1: are really going after that.
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  Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit more.
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  Speaker 5: EPA's annual budget is about ten billion dollars. So far,
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  Speaker 5: I've canceled twenty two billion dollars.
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  Speaker 4: Worth of grants. And how is that possible, one might ask.
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  Speaker 5: Well, in twenty twenty four, the amount that EPA obligated
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  Speaker 5: and spent was over sixty billion dollars. A lot of
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  Speaker 5: money came through the Inflation Reduction Act and Democrats were
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  Speaker 5: in charge of Congress, and a lot of that money
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  Speaker 5: went through EPA.
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  Speaker 4: They created these green slush funds.
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  Speaker 5: And in one case, twenty billion dollars which they couldn't
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  Speaker 5: get out on their own fast enough.
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  Speaker 4: They ended up parking at an outside bank.
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  Speaker 5: Towards the end of the Biden administration to give through
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  Speaker 5: eight pass through NGOs.
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  Speaker 4: Many of them were brand new.
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  Speaker 5: One is that Stacy Abrams linked ngo that received two
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  Speaker 5: billion even though they only received one hundred dollars in
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty three and because of self dealing.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, hold on a second, they went from one hundred
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  Speaker 3: dollars to two billion dollars.
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  Speaker 4: How crazy is that?
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  Speaker 5: And then on page seven of their grant agreement, the
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  Speaker 5: Biden EPA gives them ninety days to complete a training
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  Speaker 5: called how to develop a budget.
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  Speaker 4: Now, if you feel like this is you know it?
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  Speaker 3: With two billion dollars, you don't need much of a budget.
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  Speaker 3: Just spend on whatever you want.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I'll add another dynamic to it.
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  Speaker 5: On page one of the grant agreement, they have twenty
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  Speaker 5: one days to start spending the money. So from day zero.
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  Speaker 5: They have twenty one days to start spending money. They
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  Speaker 5: had ninety days to complete a training called how to
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  Speaker 5: develop a budget.
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  Speaker 3: Look, this is insane. And you described what you found
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  Speaker 3: as essentially twenty billion dollars in gold bars that were
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  Speaker 3: being thrown off the Titanic. That that the Biden administration
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  Speaker 3: they realized, Oh, no, Trump is coming in, let's just
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  Speaker 3: throw this all out the window. I mean, is that
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  Speaker 3: what you found.
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  Speaker 5: That's exactly what happened and what alerted Senate Republicans like
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  Speaker 5: Senator Cruz.
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  Speaker 4: This was something that Senator Cruz.
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  Speaker 5: And I spoke about back in December when we met
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  Speaker 5: before my confirmation hearing. There was this video that came
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  Speaker 5: out of a Biden EPA political appointee, a Biden EPA
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  Speaker 5: political appointe, talking about how they were tossing gold bars
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  Speaker 5: off the Titanic, rushing and get billions of dollars out
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  Speaker 5: the door before in inauguration.
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  Speaker 3: Did this was a Biden phrase.
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  Speaker 4: That was it was the Biden EPA political appointee.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that was being clever. They called it that
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  Speaker 3: you gotta be kidding that.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, And they were doing it with an eye towards
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  Speaker 5: getting themselves jobs at the recipient NGOs. So this was
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  Speaker 5: us fulfilling a commitment to figure out go find the
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  Speaker 5: gold bars, a commitment to bring those gold bars back
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  Speaker 5: into the treasury on behalf of the American taxpayer.
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  Speaker 3: But by the way, Lee, I will say, the last
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  Speaker 3: Democrat I'm aware of who was intimately involved with gold
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  Speaker 3: bars was was your former neighboring colleague, Bob Menendez, who
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  Speaker 3: was sticking gold bars in his pockets and down his pants.
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  Speaker 3: And and I will say Bob is currently a resident
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  Speaker 3: of government housing.
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  Speaker 5: Well there are I'll tell them about resident of government
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  Speaker 5: and feeding off the taxpayer and abusing tax dollars.
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  Speaker 4: This whole scheme is.
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  Speaker 5: Riddled with self dealing and conflicts of interest, unqualified recipients,
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  Speaker 5: and a lack of EPA oversight, deliberately reducing EPA oversight.
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  Speaker 5: Twenty billion dollars a lot of money, And when that
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  Speaker 5: goes through those first eight past entities, a lot of
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  Speaker 5: that money goes through more passed through entities. And we
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  Speaker 5: found with one program that there was money that by
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  Speaker 5: the time it was getting to the ultimate recipient, it
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  Speaker 5: was going through four middlemen. And each of these middle
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  Speaker 5: men are getting their own fee for being middlemen.
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  Speaker 4: And now I had one other thing. We've heard so
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  Speaker 4: much about that.
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  Speaker 5: We've heard the term climate change, we've heard the term
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  Speaker 5: environmental justice. And you could build support for your term
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  Speaker 5: by the way that you define it, the way you
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  Speaker 5: argue and advocate for it. For example, one might say, so.
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  Speaker 3: If you call it gold bars off the Titanic, that's
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  Speaker 3: not the best messaging.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Amen.
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  Speaker 5: If you say that that we need to combat environmental
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  Speaker 5: justice because there's a community, there are communities that are
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  Speaker 5: left behind and they need help, a lot of Americans
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  Speaker 5: be like, Okay, there are communities that are left behind,
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  Speaker 5: they need help.
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  Speaker 4: What do we need to do. But here's the problem.
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  Speaker 5: In the name of environmental justice, they will give money
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  Speaker 5: to they're left wing activist friends instead of actually remediating
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  Speaker 5: environmental issues. So one of the grants I canceled was
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  Speaker 5: it fifty million dollar grant to a group called Climate
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  Speaker 5: Justice Alliance. They say that climate justice runs through a
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  Speaker 5: free Palestine.
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  Speaker 4: I say, God bless that.
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  Speaker 5: If you were gonna give if you're gonna spend fifty
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  Speaker 5: million dollars in the name of environmental justice, that money
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  Speaker 5: should go towards actually remediating an environmental.
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  Speaker 4: Issue in the name of climate change.
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  Speaker 5: They're willing to spend trillions of dollars bankrupting this country,
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  Speaker 5: and we as Americans need to get smartest to what
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  Speaker 5: the left has.
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  Speaker 4: Been up to.
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  Speaker 3: Such, let me say something on this, which is you're
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  Speaker 3: really underscoring a very important point that when corrupt Democrats
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  Speaker 3: waste billions of dollars, they're doing multiple things. One, they're
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  Speaker 3: paying off their buddies and engaging in political corruptions. So
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  Speaker 3: the two billion dollars that was given to Stacy Abrams
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  Speaker 3: and her group was to buy new APT appliances for Georgians. Now,
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  Speaker 3: mind you, Stacey Abrams ran for governor of Georgia. She
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  Speaker 3: claimed she was the original election denier. She claims she won,
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  Speaker 3: never mind the fact that she didn't. But the Democrats
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  Speaker 3: are giving her two billion dollars because it turns out
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  Speaker 3: if you give someone a brand new dishwasher, maybe maybe
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  Speaker 3: they'll vote for you next time. It's just buying votes.
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  Speaker 3: That's one consequence of it. But another consequence of it
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  Speaker 3: is that's two billion dollars that's not being spent to
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  Speaker 3: clean up a super fun site. That's two billion dollars
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  Speaker 3: that's not being spent if you have a toxic waste dump. Look,
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  Speaker 3: the EPA has really important missions. Every one of us
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  Speaker 3: wants clean air and clean water because we all breathe
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  Speaker 3: and we all drink water. And if you're wasting twenty
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  Speaker 3: two billion dollars in cronyism and corruption, that's twenty two
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  Speaker 3: billion dollars that are not going to clean up the
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  Speaker 3: environment and make our kids safer.
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  Speaker 4: Is that right? One hundred percent right?
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  Speaker 5: And we're not here saying we want to take money
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  Speaker 5: from a left wing activist organization and give it to
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  Speaker 5: a right wing activist organization. We're talking about the money
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  Speaker 5: belongs to the taxpayers. And if you're gonna spend the
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  Speaker 5: money on protecting the environment, it needs to go directly
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  Speaker 5: towards remediating in environmental issue period. I don't want to
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  Speaker 5: spend a dollar more than what we need. And by
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  Speaker 5: the way, when some people call someone comes to me
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  Speaker 5: and they say I have an idea on how to
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  Speaker 5: save five thousand dollars, that's a lot of money to me.
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  Speaker 5: Let's save five thousand dollars. Let's save five million dollars.
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  Speaker 5: We save five billion dollars. And what's so frustrating is
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  Speaker 5: that there are people. When you say I have an
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  Speaker 5: idea to save a billion dollars, the responsors, well, that's
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  Speaker 5: only point zero zero three percent of some larger pot
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  Speaker 5: of money. So you know who gives, well, I give,
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  Speaker 5: and whether it's a B and M, we're talking about
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  Speaker 5: one thousand dollars, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 4: When you're a steward.
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  Speaker 5: Of tax dollars, you need to treat it as if
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  Speaker 5: it's your own money. You need to treat it with
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  Speaker 5: even more care and concern. And unfortunately, there are too
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  Speaker 5: many people in government who love wasting money and they're
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  Speaker 5: paying it off the friends. In this case, we're talking
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  Speaker 5: about former Biden and Obama appointed administration officials, former Democratic donors.
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  Speaker 5: These are people who they are close with because of
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  Speaker 5: that alliance, not because of their qualifications. Stacy Abrams and
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  Speaker 5: that NGO doesn't get the money because Stacy Abrams is
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  Speaker 5: so experienced in handling billions of dollars.
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• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Before we went to break there you were talking about
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: how it's pretty clear that the Democratic Party decided they
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: were going to take the EPA, radicalize it, use it
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: for their own personal gain and their friends and their
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: climate religion and the Green New Deal.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: The list goes on and on.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Can we take a step back and explain to everyone
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: listening around the country, what is the original goal of
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: the EPA, Why was it created?
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: What is your goal?
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: So they understand just how far off the beaten path
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: we've gotten.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: The core mission of EPA is protecting human health in
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: the environment. And what conservatives, moderates, liberals, Republicans, Democrats, independents,
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: what Americans almost all universally should be agreeing on is
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: that we should ensure clean air, land, and water for
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: all Americans. That's a goal that we often talk about,
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: and protecting the environment is something that conservatives care deeply about.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: We believe that we can both protect the environment and
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: grow the economy.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: This isn't a binary choice. But what was happening under.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: The Biden EPA was that they were strangulating the economy
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: and they were passing these regulations that were costing trillions
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: of dollars, and they were designed to put entire industries
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: out of business. And Americans spoke up last November. They
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: say that they want a stronger economy, they want more energy,
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: they want more jobs. And President Trump heard that loud
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: and clear. The campaigned on a lot of this, and
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: that's why there's a National Energy Dominance Council, there's a
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: National Energy Emergency, and that's why EPA is doing its part.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: We announced on March twelfth, the largest deregulatory action in
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: the history of the country. We want to fix this instantly.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: We're not looking to pace ourselves. I'm not saying, hey,
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: stay tuned in twenty twenty eight. The solution is going
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: to finally be here. Take my word for it. I'm
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: saying right now, we are actively walking into you and
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: come the same time on all fronts. We're firing on
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: all cylinders. We will fix everything. That's our commitment.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: You know. Historically, the EPA, I think, has been the
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: most dangerous and destructive regulator in the entire country. And
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: it is under radical Democrats, promulgated rules designed to destroy jobs,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: to destroy entire industries. And it reminds me of a
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: joke that I have to bet I've told on the
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: campaign trail many times, which is what's the difference between
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: regulators and locusts. And the answer is, you can't use
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: pesticide on the regulators. And one time, actually out here
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: in West Texas, an old farmer leaned forward and said,
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: want to bet so I'll just tell you when you
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: come in and say I'm the regulator. West Texas is
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: a different place. But I'll tell you why. I'm so
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: thrilled that is doing this, because he he brings intelligence
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: and common sense and an understanding that we can't protect
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: the environment, keep our air and water clean. But that
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean being a crazy zealot trying to shut down
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: every job you can in America. And that's what under
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Obama and Biden that they did and and and so
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I want to ask and look, and there's a consistent
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: theme across President Trump's cabinet of bringing back a resurgence
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: of common sense, bringing back a dedication to jobs, bringing
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: back a dedication to blue collar workers. So I want
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: to ask. One of the things we do on Verdict,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: we try to bring people behind the scenes and and
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: and so you're a member of President Trump's cabinet, let
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: me just ask you, what's it like to be in
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump's cabinet? Like, bring our listeners in what is it?
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: What does it mean? Tell tell us about the first
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: cabinet meeting you go to. What's it Like?
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: I always thought that there was pretty much two choices
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: for a cabinet. That a president can have a cabinet
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: where everyone gets along and maybe they're all yes men.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: They don't have the relationship with the president where they
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: can push back.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Just everyone just tells the president what they want to hear.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: And then option two is this team of rivals approach
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: where maybe people don't get along with each other, there's
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: some conflict, and from that conflict and debate, maybe you
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: end up with.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: A with a better cabinet amember.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: You know from the Abe Lincoln Team of Rivals, a
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: great book worth reading if anyone out there hasn't read
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: it yet. President Trump has tried something different. I really
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: think this this is the model of how to do it.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: He has a cabinet where everyone gets along with each other.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: There's great chemistry, and we all have the relationship with
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: President Trump where we could tell him where we disagree
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: on any topic.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: We all have that.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: Relationship with him where we are able to share our
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: candid thoughts, our candidate recommendations. And I think this cabinet
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: stronger for it. I think that the president and this
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: administration his country is stronger for it. Inside those cabinet
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: meetings like we just had one last week, it was
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: a low over three hours long. It was so positive
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: and it was so substantive, and we're all talking about
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: what we are working on in our own agency. In
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: many cases, it's working with other agencies and the partnerships.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: I'm a member of the National Energy Dominance Council, I'm
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: a member of the Make America Healthy Again Commission with
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: Secretary Kennedy, and that cooperation between agencies ends up allowing
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: us to accomplish so many other goals. Like Senator Cruz
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: has been fighting for permitting reform. Well, one of the
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: best ways to achieve permitting reform is to have agencies
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: working on this stuff at the same time, rather than
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: having to go through twelve months in one agency and
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: then you go to some other agency and they're guming
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: up the workshare, and the person who's applying for the
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: permise like, hey, why don't you just tell us that
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: a year ago. Well, we want to make sure that
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: we are doing things efficiently in a way that we
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: were all making the American public proud. It's a new
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: way to be to have a cabinet. I think this
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: is the way president should do it going forward.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: You know, I read something last week that was amazing,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: which is Donald Trump, in three months of his second
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: term has already answered more press questions at cabinet meetings
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: than Joe Biden did in four years as president. Although
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: to be fair, Biden may have been answering questions of
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: voices he was hearing in his head, So I don't
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: know about that. All right, let me ask another question,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: which is, how did you find out you were gonna
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: be epa administrator? Tell us what it's like. So you're
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: sitting there minding your own business, like, how did this
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: appointment come about?
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: So it was a call on a Sunday morning right
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: after the election. I spoke to the President a few
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: times during that week after the election, and the President
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: was thinking through some different options. I didn't know what
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: he was going to ask me to do. Was clear
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: that he wanted me to come join the team. Sunday morning, though.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: He calls me up and he is locked in, he
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: is decisive, he has motivated. He had this vision of
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: exactly what we can be accomplishing at EPA, and his
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: motivation motivated me.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: I said, if you love this idea, and I mean,
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: I am all in.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: I was like, actually, what I say was if you
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: like it, I love it, and then the rest is history.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: And one of the cool things about contacting me on
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: November eleventh, when you still have two and a half
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: months before a confirmation, is that is a runway to
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: get fully staffed up, to fully prepare for how to
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: hit the ground running on once we got there. So
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: the President when he called me up, he had like
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: fifteen specific ideas he wanted us to We're just talking
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: about permitting reform. He's talking about making America the AI
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: capital the world. He wants to bring back American auto jobs,
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: he wants to unleash energy dominance.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: And he had a lot of specific ideas on how
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: to do it. Now.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: I don't know what that conversation was like eight years
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: earlier when he was calling his then nominee to be
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: EPA administrator, But I will tell you when he called
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: me up, he was deeply knowledge on everything that we
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: needed to do to do a great job.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you another question.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: For some of you that are listening they hear the EPA,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: one of the things that you're trying to do is
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: deregulate and allow for things to flourish that can have
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: a huge impact on every American's life. That can be
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: at the gas pump, that can be with natural gas,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: or house that can be with countless other things. Give
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: a list of just how important the EPA is and
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: how much it touches in average Americans life.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: They may not even realize.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: One is the EPA has tremendous power to gum up
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: the works on a lot. I mean, if you want
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: permitting reform before you even have to go through a
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: legislative process. EPA could speed up a whole lot of
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: permitting timelines by just getting out of the way.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: There is incredible power. Now.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: There's a whole bunch of landmark historic laws that are
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: on the books. Clean Air Act, Clean Water Acts, Safe
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: Drinking Water Act, Circle of for super Funds, Toxic Substances,
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: Chemicals Act Control Act. There's a lot of laws around
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: the books that have EPA doing different work. It is
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: important for us to ensure that we are not overstepping
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: these powers. And what we can do through our deregulatory
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: action amounts to what is the largest deregulatory environment in
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: the history of the country. There's never been a year,
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: there's never been a presidential administration or a year in
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: the past where the entire federal government did more deregulation
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: than the EPA will do in twenty twenty five.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: That's how much we could accomplish in such a short time.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: That's incredible. You told a story earlier today about the
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: EPA's involvement in cleaning up the California wildfires, and it's
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: a good example of how it impacts people's lives. We've
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: got a minute till we have to break, but tell
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: us in that minute about like you wouldn't necessarily think
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: the EPA is involved in dealing with wildfires, but you
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: guys are deeply involved.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: As soon as the wildfires hit Los Angeles, over thirteen
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: thousand properties destroyed, President Trump comes into office. He inherits
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: it happened a few days before he got there. He
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: signs the executive order. He says, EPA, you have thirty
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: days to do your entire Phase one hazardous material removal
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: before Phase two starts, which is the Army Corps of
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: Engineers doing their debris removal.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: And like with the wildfires, you had people's homes that
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: burn to the ground. There's a lot of toxic sludge.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a mess. It's dangerous. Like fires produce
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: bad stuff, and you guys had to figure out how
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: to clean it up. But do it in thirty days.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: First the response was that's impossible. This is going to
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: take you until the summer at best. It's going to
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: take a few months for sure. The lithium ion batteries
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: were all over this particular area. We got it done
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: in less than thirty days after ramping up to fifteen
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: hundred workers. Proud of the effort from EPA. We do
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: a lot like this that the American public might not
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: know about. And that's why in just a couple of days,
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: we're heading to the Tijuana area in southern California, where
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: a lot of Mexican raw sewage is entering for decades.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: We need to end it.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: The other one that a lot of Americans will remember,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: and that was the Trained derailment, and it seemed like
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: the government was picking winners and losers with that cleanup
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: or lack thereof. You guys have also gotten involved with
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: that because what you did in the wildfires in California
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: is incredible. That's what every American should get, no matter
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: where they live, and politics shouldn't come into it.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: This is something that really showed then Junior Senator JD.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: Vance as someone who understands leadership in a time of crisis,
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: when disaster strikes, your instinct as a leader should be
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: to show up at that site and to be the
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: voice of the people. And what was wild was JD
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: was like the only one there I think that might
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: be cong from Bill Johnson's district.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Well, to be fair, Donald Trump came to yeah, well,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: and it was j and JD not Joe Biden, not
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Pete budage Edge, but Donald Trump came.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: And I remember the conversations where JD was engaging with
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: President Trump to make sure that President Trump was there.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: And this was all in the initial days and weeks
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: after disaster struck. Yes, and a lot of people were wondering, well,
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: where is this person, where is that person, Where is
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: this agency?
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Where's that agency?
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: It should be This is the ultimate gut check and
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: an instinct check of just.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: It's amazing because Biden, the Democrats, they really liked Palestinians.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: You would think they would have gone, oh my.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: Gosh, you know, all right.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: For the record, Lezelden is officially speechless. He doesn't know
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: what to do with that smart ass comment.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you it was a It was such a
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: missed opportunity to lead and that EPA. Over the course
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: of time, they ended up being two hundred and twenty thousand.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: We saw two hundred twenty thousand tons of contaminated soil removed,
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: We saw tens of millions of gallons of water removed.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: They ended up becoming a massive EPA effort that actually
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: is still ongoing and in a way for the environmental
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: and human impacts. There's going to be testing going on
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: for a long time to come. And I would encourage
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: anyone who's out there listening, who is in that community,
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: in the in the area, that that maybe you used
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: to go to East Palestine, but now you take a detour,
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: you go somewhere else. We all need to do our
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: part to help bring East Palestine, Ohio back and very
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: important to the Vice President, but unfortunately too many of
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: these cases have shown that lack of leadership.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Well and tell us what you're doing in Tijuana, because
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: it's it's an amazing here.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: You have an issue where for decades Mexican raw sewage
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: has been coming across the border. It's been poured into
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: the Tijuana River. It ends up contaminating water and air.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: We have Navy seals getting sick. They have to do
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: training somewhere else. So we have decided enough is enough.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: We're going to Tijuana in the coming days. I can't
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: wait to get there. We're gonna be on the US
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: side of that border. We have a whole plan of action.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: I just warning you when you're in the cabinet, what
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: happens in Tijuana does not stay in Tijuana.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, sir, good great, great advice.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: And especially if you drink the water, you'll be bringing
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: that back to you, back with you to d C.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: So listen, it's something that we're gonna step up on
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: and tackle and we're proud of it.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: E p A wants to assist. And these are Americans
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: that we see over there California.
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: Do they vote red or blue? All your listeners know
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: the answer to that one. It doesn't matter.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: But look, you're you're you're cleaning that crap up.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Literally.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: I mean that that is valuable. That's what we want
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: the EPA to be doing. That's important. Let me let
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: me ask you. So, so you and I are in
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: in Midland, Texas. We spent the day. We started by
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: going to to a rig that was drilling an oil well.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: We then had a roundtable and actually when you were
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: being confirmed and you came by my office, you and
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: I have been good friends for over a decade, but
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: when you were being confirmed, I said, I want to
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: ask you to commit to come the Midland, Texas and
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: sit down with with oil and gas leaders, with entrepreneurs,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: with people that are producing energy and hear from them.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: And it's amazing. You're the first EPA administrator in history
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: to come to the middle of Odessa, which is astonishing.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: It's like saying an ag secretary had never been to Iowa.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: It's like saying a secretary of State had never been
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: to the United Kingdom or never been to Israel. Like
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: your job, every EPA administrator should be in the Permian base.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: And given the importance of it and the involvement of
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: the EPA, So tell us about you met with wildcatters
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: and business leaders, a lot of people that are good
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: friends of mine. Give us your impression of the folks
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: you met and and what you learned on this trip.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Was it valuable?
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Salt of the earth? Job creators?
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: You could just imagine how much sweat equity was around
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: that table of people who have poured their lives, their heart,
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: blood tears, creating jobs, providing energy to Texans and beyond.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: And these people need us to be thanking them, to
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: be to be praising them for their good work, to
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: be supporting them as opposed to using our power to
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: try to make it more difficult for them.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: We shouldn't be trying to.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: So, by the way, these guys are all close friends
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: and buddies of mine. I have had great joy in
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: recent weeks and months asking them how much they're like
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Billy Bob Thornton. Have they ever been tied up and
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: had a mask over their head? Have they been covered
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: in gasoline by cartels? Our host Bill Holmes, great, great,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: great friend, Landman, very successful businessman, I asked him. So,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: by the way, if you haven't watched Landman, you should.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: It's the best show on television. I did play for
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: President Trump in the Oval Office last week, the segment
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: from Landman where Billy Bob Thornton talks to the left
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: wing environmental lawyer about windmills. It's the best three minutes
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: on television of our lifetime. And I will say, at
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: least the Landman I know in Midland tell me that
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: that they murder fewer people than they do in the show.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: It's still a great show.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: And for Billy Bob, if you're out there listening, that
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  Speaker 5: was some That was a free sponsorship from Senator Ted Cruz.
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  Speaker 5: So you're you're lucky that you have that fan playing
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  Speaker 5: it for President Trump in the Oval bringing a great,
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  Speaker 5: a great show to the people.
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  Speaker 4: And and listen, we need to get smart with energy policy.
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  Speaker 5: There are people promoting win as an intermittent sources if
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  Speaker 5: that's a substitute for base load power for all of
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  Speaker 5: you out there listening, let's let's get
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  Speaker 4: Smart, educate, advocate the people who are around policy