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NAACP Award-winning Actor, turned in his scrubs for firefighter gear starring in ABC's "Station 19" and "Grey's Anatomy," as Dr. Ben Warren · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: to call industry decision makers. My next guest is a
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Speaker 1: combination celebrity and the industry decision maker. He's a Jason George.
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Speaker 1: He's starting in the midseason return of Station nineteen that
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Speaker 1: airs on Thursday, Martching leven a PM Eastern Standard Town
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Speaker 1: on ABC. George is also known for his work as
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Speaker 1: a regular mistresses Eve Off Center and Eli Stone, as
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Speaker 1: well as films which is of East Eastern Excuse Me,
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Speaker 1: The Climb, and Barbershop. After several years on Grades and
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Speaker 1: Natomy as Dr Ben Warren, George turned in this gross
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Speaker 1: for firefighter Gear when his character helped start to spin
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Speaker 1: off hit action drama series Station nineteen about heroic firefighters. Now,
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Speaker 1: George moved seamlessly between both series. When we're talking about
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Speaker 1: his career from comedy the soap operas to draw Mu
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Speaker 1: to actions venture and acting in production during COVID nteen,
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Speaker 1: Please Love, Welcome to a man I've seen many many years,
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Speaker 1: always from Afar. Always wanted to cast him on my shows,
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Speaker 1: but he was always working. Jason George. Oh good, good good.
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Speaker 1: When I say that, man, you know, because we all
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Speaker 1: I know. I started writing back at eighty two on
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Speaker 1: my first sitcom on ABC with Steve Harvey, and and
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Speaker 1: then I went to uh the Robert Townsend, and then
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Speaker 1: I did all city was ABC SC grades, the great absolutely,
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Speaker 1: and but all the time I saw you working. He
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Speaker 1: was always busy. And I like to believe that you
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Speaker 1: you you've had a working man's career, which is a
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Speaker 1: blessing because of the fact it's a testament to your talent.
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Speaker 1: But this is not what you wanted to do. I
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Speaker 1: was supposed to do. Law was supposed to be your
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Speaker 1: your destiny. Correct, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly it. Um
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Speaker 1: I had gotten with the vice prince of my high
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Speaker 1: school was h you know. I was like, I was
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Speaker 1: a good student, but I was also a cut up.
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Speaker 1: So I'd be like getting good grades, but in detention
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Speaker 1: all the time. The vice Prince would be like, why
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Speaker 1: you want to be you know, he was one of
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Speaker 1: the few black men I saw in education at the time.
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Speaker 1: My mother was a teacher where I grew up. And uh,
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Speaker 1: and Mr has settled put me aside and be like,
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Speaker 1: why are you making want to give you detention? Why
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Speaker 1: are you trying to get detention all the time? And
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Speaker 1: then he would like actually sit there and talk to
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Speaker 1: me like I was an intelligent human being and then say,
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Speaker 1: you got attention, but you got potential as well, and
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Speaker 1: uh and his son, well, he passed away my senior year.
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Speaker 1: Mr Hesel my vice principle. And his son was only
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Speaker 1: the second black Supreme Court Justice of Virginia. Uh he was,
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Speaker 1: and he was the youngest Supreme Court Justice of Virginia
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Speaker 1: had ever had. And his son and I got to
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Speaker 1: be good friends, and he became my mentor. And basically
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Speaker 1: the plan was, you go to college, you get the grades,
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Speaker 1: I'll write the recommendation, get you into the best law
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Speaker 1: school we can get you into. You come back to
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Speaker 1: clerk for me, and then you're a made man as
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Speaker 1: a lawyer in the state of Virginia, and you're done.
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Speaker 1: Career ahead of you. And then I went to college
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Speaker 1: and took an acting class, and it all went to help.
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Speaker 1: I had I called an audible changed of the plan.
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Speaker 1: And I never told my father that I was gonna
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Speaker 1: go to uh graduate school to study acting because my
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Speaker 1: father was checked out for a bit. My mom and
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Speaker 1: I had a really beautiful conversation about it, and then
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Speaker 1: I had to talk to the judge. Uh. He was,
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Speaker 1: you know, one of the big male role models in
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Speaker 1: my life. And I had to tell the judge and
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Speaker 1: it was a stone cold silence on the phone for
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Speaker 1: a minute. He was he was not feeling it um
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Speaker 1: but fortunately it worked out. In years later signed some
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Speaker 1: autograph us for some people in this office and we
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Speaker 1: were cool. But you know, it's really interesting because when
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Speaker 1: I when I talked about individuals like you who sometimes
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Speaker 1: people see a different direction and sometimes people get trapped
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Speaker 1: in that direction that people want you to go. And
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Speaker 1: I know that I was at IBM, did Doree in mathematics,
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Speaker 1: and so everybody was happy. They thought that was the
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Speaker 1: career path. And I decided one day I want to
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Speaker 1: be I want to pursue my career as a stand
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Speaker 1: up comedian. So a lot of people looked at me strange,
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Speaker 1: how are you gonna walk away from IBM? You got
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Speaker 1: a math degree that has nothing to do with telling Joe,
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Speaker 1: how will you made that? So I can understand when
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Speaker 1: you said, there was silence on the phone because that
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Speaker 1: wasn't the vision that person had for you. And and
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Speaker 1: you encountered that a lot because you do a lot
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Speaker 1: of community to work, You work with young people, you
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Speaker 1: work with, you try to shape people's lives. Does your
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Speaker 1: life come into play when you're giving people advice all
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Speaker 1: the time, all the time I try and tell him,
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Speaker 1: I said, look, um, you got you like you. We
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Speaker 1: were talking just before the show started. You were saying,
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Speaker 1: your all good actors are good listening folks. How do
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Speaker 1: your job as an actor or just as a person
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Speaker 1: in life? Part of me the way to finding success
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Speaker 1: is you gotta listen for guy's whispering in your ear.
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Speaker 1: Uh that all the time that whispers it. But you
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Speaker 1: gotta be Uh. You've gotta be quiet enough of times
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Speaker 1: that you can hear it, and then you're gonna be
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Speaker 1: loud enough of times to make yourself heard. Um. And
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Speaker 1: so it's that thing when you realize that this really,
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Speaker 1: this thing that everybody else wants for you is not
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Speaker 1: what is married. Um, you gotta be then you gotta
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Speaker 1: make yourself loud, but you've gotta be quiet, just be
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Speaker 1: able to hear that every once in a while. And
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Speaker 1: the reality is, you know, there's a difference between surviving
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Speaker 1: and thriving. You know, you don't want to just get by,
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Speaker 1: you want to live. And you realize, you know, I
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Speaker 1: remember it was years I went to my my cousin's
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Speaker 1: wedding back in Louisiana, and Uh, one of his friends
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Speaker 1: like my uh my cousin. He is kind of like
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Speaker 1: his little brother. Uh, it's kind of like his adopted
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Speaker 1: little brother. And this dude was, you know, grown man now,
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Speaker 1: and he said, what's it like? And I assumed he
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Speaker 1: meant like acting and he said and I said, I said,
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Speaker 1: what being an actor? He goes now like really enjoying
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Speaker 1: what you do? And because he was, he was an accountant,
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Speaker 1: and I was, I was knocked out by it. I
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Speaker 1: was like, how can you not enjoy like my accountant.
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Speaker 1: The reason why my account is my accountant is because
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Speaker 1: this dude's geeked out by being able to do his
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Speaker 1: calculator one handed, like he loves seeing the numbers backshot,
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Speaker 1: like he enjoys that. You don't have to enjoy every
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Speaker 1: aspect of your job. Virtually nobody does, even actors don't.
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Speaker 1: But you're got to enjoy. You gotta find something in
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Speaker 1: it that that gets you excited, that gets it makes
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Speaker 1: you excited about going to work every once in a while,
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Speaker 1: if not every day. And then the way he said it,
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Speaker 1: I felt like, if there's nothing there, that's that's a problem. Dude.
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Speaker 1: You need to reevaluate your life really because I know that,
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Speaker 1: like when I tell people are a degree in mathematics.
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Speaker 1: You know, I also tell people I don't do my
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Speaker 1: taxes because you know that is not what I do.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying just because I don't numbers,
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Speaker 1: don't may not know taxes, and I can agree with you.
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Speaker 1: What you're saying is that you know, when I look
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Speaker 1: at a life, you know, longevity is really interesting. When
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Speaker 1: you start looking at decisions that you make and you know,
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Speaker 1: and I don't question in the decision I've made your
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Speaker 1: I just live it because of the fact that it
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Speaker 1: was the next step of opportunity. And if you live
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Speaker 1: on regret, then you really you have an interesting life
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Speaker 1: that you should sit down and think about it. Like
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Speaker 1: your friend, like that person you talked about who's in
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Speaker 1: the account, he's living a life of regret, which is
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Speaker 1: also going to spill over into other things. Your relationship,
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Speaker 1: how you raise your kids and you have to be happy.
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Speaker 1: What drives you to keep that sustained? That you know,
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Speaker 1: you're in shape, you know you you you you you
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Speaker 1: you're are working actor? How what? What? What? What sustained you? George?
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Speaker 1: You know what's funny is for me, it's there's internal
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Speaker 1: motivations and there's external motivations. Like external motivations are like
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Speaker 1: people telling you to do something, deadlines you gotta do
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Speaker 1: and you need some of that. I mean, some of
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Speaker 1: that's what keeps you, you know going, you know, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, like there's so many bulks and they dispatched
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Speaker 1: on the bellies. You're getting a little big down there.
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Speaker 1: External motivation. I mean, you know we're looking for that,
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Speaker 1: but um, the truth is, I enjoyed how I feel
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Speaker 1: want the exercise. I grew up an athlete, I was
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Speaker 1: captain my track team. I grew up with you know, friends,
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, and so, you know, playing football
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Speaker 1: in the backyard on the regular, and so that's I
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Speaker 1: just like how I feel when I do that. That's
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Speaker 1: that internal motivation is like knowing that I can still
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not twenty five anymore, but I like
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Speaker 1: knowing that I can still out run some twenty five
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Speaker 1: year olds. I like keeping that side. I think that's
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Speaker 1: a good look. I like that look, um. And the
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Speaker 1: same thing as like, you know, when I discovered acting,
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Speaker 1: it was I discovered things in myself that we're interesting
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Speaker 1: to me. And when I play new characters, I discovered
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Speaker 1: new things about myself, and so there's an internal motivation
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Speaker 1: of what can I find out about me? Let's see
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Speaker 1: if I can pull this song. Let me see if
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Speaker 1: I can pull that off. And that's the challenge, you know,
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Speaker 1: the challenges are that internal motivation. And so for me,
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Speaker 1: it's about finding some of those like I know, like
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Speaker 1: you know, you want me to get something, you know,
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Speaker 1: a script written or a paper written or something like that.
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Speaker 1: I need a deadline, I mean. But when it comes
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Speaker 1: to working out or acting challenges, that's the and I
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Speaker 1: guess that's part of the thing as well, when you
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Speaker 1: find out, you know, when you're trying to figure out
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Speaker 1: what is that thing that you're in love with? If
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Speaker 1: you don't need anybody else to push you, because you
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Speaker 1: push yourself, you're internally motivated, that's probably the thing you're
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Speaker 1: meant to be doing, you know what I mean. If
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Speaker 1: you just love looking at the challenge and we're running,
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Speaker 1: and then that's the thing that for me, like you know,
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Speaker 1: I knew a dude when I when I ran track.
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Speaker 1: Who you know, you're supposed to draft the people in
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Speaker 1: front of you when you run a long distance, you know,
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Speaker 1: stay with the packs, save some energy, so you has
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Speaker 1: any energy to end to break out. Uh. He he
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Speaker 1: only had one speed full out, full out. You say,
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Speaker 1: if I'm not hitting my personal best, what's the point?
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Speaker 1: And I understand the wisdom of both sides, but I
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Speaker 1: always kind of feel the heat of what he's talking about.
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Speaker 1: I gotta be pushing me at the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: so you know, I'm balancing too. It's like I may
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Speaker 1: run with the pack for a little bit, but then
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Speaker 1: when I break out, it's about getting my personal best.
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Speaker 1: So you always gotta be measuring yourself and it's gotta
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Speaker 1: be internally motivated. And that's what I said in the
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Speaker 1: beginning when I set up the show. It's about you know,
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Speaker 1: we read other people story, but what passion and what
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Speaker 1: drive keeps you going? What's your planning, what's your committed effort?
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Speaker 1: And that's what you talk about committed effort. Now, when
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Speaker 1: I look at you, let's go over real, Jason. You're
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Speaker 1: a handsome guy. On your show, we're gonna get to
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Speaker 1: a good story. It's gonna be a good It's not
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Speaker 1: gonna be a You can take it and keep it
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Speaker 1: because you've been living with it all your life and
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Speaker 1: that's a good thing. Now on now on you know, stationten,
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Speaker 1: you got my boards culture who I know really well,
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Speaker 1: I've been doing borders through all these sitcom good looking guy,
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Speaker 1: and I think he's doing some of his best acting
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Speaker 1: on this on this on Station Nat. I mean his
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Speaker 1: his nuances, his uh, you know, frustration, uh, being a
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Speaker 1: guy who has a drug issue and really showing a
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Speaker 1: wrong character. And the reason I say that because a
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Speaker 1: lot of casting goes in into how you look, and
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Speaker 1: then people will sometimes not give you credit because of
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Speaker 1: how you look or use cast for this particular reason.
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Speaker 1: And I'm so proud when I see what Boris is
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Speaker 1: joined on the Station eighteen this season because of the
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Speaker 1: fact that you know, many years I know I would
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Speaker 1: cast him because he was a good looking guy on sitcoms.
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Speaker 1: You know, we need a good looking guy in the seen. Okay,
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Speaker 1: let's Boris and he could act as well, and he
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Speaker 1: can deal with comedy Glass what point in your brain
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Speaker 1: and your career because I remember your he was a
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Speaker 1: good looking guy. Us just stuck, you know, don't eve
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Speaker 1: you know, and so but that was a good thing
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Speaker 1: because you were getting the check and you was accomplishing
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Speaker 1: your task. But in the process, you just want a job. So,
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Speaker 1: with all that being said, what's the ultimate goal, getting
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Speaker 1: the job or being respected for your acting? No, you
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Speaker 1: want to be respected for your acting because look, I
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Speaker 1: always look at like you know, it's you know, it's like, uh,
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Speaker 1: like I tell my kids, you know, like my kids
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Speaker 1: are perfectly speaking, good looking kids. There's some beautiful children
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Speaker 1: and tell them that's your mom and me. That ain't
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Speaker 1: got But if you're in shape, that's that you can say.
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Speaker 1: That's on you. What you do in school, what you do,
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Speaker 1: what you accomplish, what you create. You did that, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, so you know it's like, so for me,
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Speaker 1: getting being respected as an actor is that thing. And
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Speaker 1: so when I get things that challenge me that have
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Speaker 1: nothing to do with a look or likability and the
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Speaker 1: fun things that also wear the spot in in film
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Speaker 1: and television where especially in television where likability is not
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Speaker 1: a point, we want interesting, We want interesting. Like then
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Speaker 1: threw boards the whole you know, drug addiction situation, and
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Speaker 1: that's when he got a chance to show up what
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Speaker 1: he's capable of, because you know, you gotta be you
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Speaker 1: gotta get ugly for a second. You gotta go to
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Speaker 1: an ugly place, and you gotta do ugly things, and
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Speaker 1: I love when I get opportunity to that. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I played uh, you know, you know war veterans who
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Speaker 1: lose limbs, and that's sort of thing I flat played,
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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, everybody forgets that, you know, in barbershop,
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Speaker 1: I was you know, even I played boyfriend and girlfriend
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Speaker 1: in barbershop before we were on the sitcom Eve. You
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Speaker 1: know Eve, I was a pretty good guy in barbershop.
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Speaker 1: I was a dog. You dog was a dog and
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Speaker 1: it was you know, yeah, and playing and playing the
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Speaker 1: playing people who break the rules is a lot more
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Speaker 1: fun because I don't do that, uh in real life.
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Speaker 1: I don't break rules that I believe in in real life. Um,
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Speaker 1: if I don't believe in your rules, ever, just keep
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Speaker 1: it moving. And you know that's and everybody who knows me,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's like, uh, you know, it's better. My
12:57
Speaker 1: favorite phrase my wife gets frustrated with it is it's
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Speaker 1: better to ask forgiven this infermission. Um. So I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: do what I need to do, and then I'll find
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Speaker 1: out if there's a rule saying I shouldn't do it
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Speaker 1: later on. Um. But you know, so if you do
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Speaker 1: that in the character that's that's much more interesting. So
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Speaker 1: I'm much more interested in the challenges of acting than
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Speaker 1: I am and how I look and that sort of thing.
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Speaker 1: You know. It's like, you know, I love working out,
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Speaker 1: I love work, I enjoy exercising, but when it feels
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Speaker 1: like it's an expectation, I want to go eat a
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Speaker 1: pizza just to like, you know, tell people to step back.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm a little contraryan in that way.
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Speaker 1: That's a good but I'm not stupid enjoying them comment
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Speaker 1: spite my face. You know, Greg is that great anatomy?
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Speaker 1: You know, you're regular Dr Ben Warren. Then you get
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Speaker 1: the call we wanted to, uh you know, spin off
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Speaker 1: in a new seal. You know they're done guarantees on
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Speaker 1: a new series, you know, and uh, how does that?
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Speaker 1: You know when they tell you they want you to
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Speaker 1: do this? You know, Sean Rymes is asking you to
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Speaker 1: do this, I'm assuming to make this move. So what
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Speaker 1: were the thoughts running into your mind when this process
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Speaker 1: was being important? Because you have the ability to go
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Speaker 1: between both a doctor and a firefire in this series.
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Speaker 1: Talk about that. Yeah, yeah, I mean, look when it
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Speaker 1: first came up for you know, when you first get
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Speaker 1: the call that you know, Shanna Rhimes wants wants to
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Speaker 1: talk to you at five o'tock today. You think you think,
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Speaker 1: am I getting fired? Am I getting fired? Is this
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Speaker 1: that call? This is that call? And then uh and
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Speaker 1: then we we got on the phone and Sean and
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Speaker 1: I have been working together for a few years at
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Speaker 1: that point, and in her producing part that Betsy Beers
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Speaker 1: is also a good friend, and and they were like, listen,
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Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about doing the spin off series
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Speaker 1: and we want Ben to go from being a doctor
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Speaker 1: to being a firefighter and the Stasan McKee, who created
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Speaker 1: Station nineteen had written one of the last episodes of
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Speaker 1: Raising Anatomy the previous season, and in that episode, there
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Speaker 1: was a massive fire at the hospital and been at
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Speaker 1: the time, you find out was definitely afraid of five
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Speaker 1: that you know, dude had a phone BA five. It's
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Speaker 1: not not his thing. It was not feeling the fire.
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Speaker 1: But he runs back in grabsified if I still runs
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Speaker 1: back in to try and save a friend. And then
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Speaker 1: when he doesn't die that a drinaling drunkie thing that
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Speaker 1: they had already established, and Ben that he he gets
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Speaker 1: he that he loves the adrenalism, uh kicks in and
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Speaker 1: he goes after the challenge, and that's part of what
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Speaker 1: leads to him becoming a firefighter. And I didn't realize
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Speaker 1: they were going that road route, but it turns out
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Speaker 1: they kind of set it up a little bit, you know,
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Speaker 1: you know, for me to move in that direction. So
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Speaker 1: I wasn't getting fired. I wasn't, in fact getting a
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Speaker 1: new job and got to be on the ground floor
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Speaker 1: of building a new, new, new part of the Grayson
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Speaker 1: Anatomy world, a new part of Shawna Land, which that's
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Speaker 1: E R dot ai. You know that. But the interesting
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18:03
Speaker 1: you know, because there's a credibility in each role. You know,
18:06
Speaker 1: there's the physicality of being a firefighter in station the team,
18:09
Speaker 1: but there's the intellect and the caring and the passion
18:12
Speaker 1: and the bedside manner that comes with being a doctor.
18:15
Speaker 1: And Gray's anatomy, the dynamics and preparing for each role.
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Speaker 1: Tell us about first grades anatomy and they're transitioning over
18:21
Speaker 1: to the physicality of station nat Was it an easy
18:24
Speaker 1: transition with the more difficulties on grades anatomy as a doctor,
18:29
Speaker 1: I don't know if easy is the word I would use.
18:31
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, you know Gray's anatomy is you know,
18:33
Speaker 1: you've got language that you're using, all the crazy amounts
18:36
Speaker 1: of Latin words and all that sort of stuff, which
18:38
Speaker 1: I took that in a little bit in high school
18:40
Speaker 1: because when I thought I was gonna be a lawyer,
18:41
Speaker 1: I was like, so, you know, coming to them, you know,
18:43
Speaker 1: you say word, you know, like you know, I don't
18:45
Speaker 1: remember what any of the words mean, but I can
18:46
Speaker 1: say him right, I can say him, and I know
18:49
Speaker 1: I know how the sounds should come out, so I
18:51
Speaker 1: can sound like a doctor real easy. That that part
18:53
Speaker 1: came easily to me. And plus the doctors are wearing
18:55
Speaker 1: basically pajamas all day. You're in your scrubs, your chilling
18:59
Speaker 1: U day. My my my play cause is a I
19:03
Speaker 1: lived with when I first came out here. He's an
19:05
Speaker 1: antety into l A. He's an anesthesiologist. I think I
19:08
Speaker 1: saw him outside of scrubs twice in three years. Um,
19:12
Speaker 1: you know. And so we do a lot of I acting.
19:15
Speaker 1: When you're in surgery, you're standing in one spot. It's
19:17
Speaker 1: a lot of it is your your face is covered
19:19
Speaker 1: and you're looking intensely with your eyes during the surgery
19:22
Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. So it's about getting focus.
19:24
Speaker 1: It's about turning into a laser beam, right. All the
19:27
Speaker 1: energy that you have is an actor and that's all
19:29
Speaker 1: interesting and fun. And but then when you go to
19:31
Speaker 1: a Station nine team, just the the outfit you're wearing,
19:36
Speaker 1: the turnouts, the fireproof gear that the firefighters wearing that
19:39
Speaker 1: plays forty five pounds plus another fifteen twenty pounds of
19:42
Speaker 1: the oxygen tank that we rock on our back. So
19:45
Speaker 1: you got sixty pounds of gear that you're wearing, and
19:48
Speaker 1: you've got to get dressed in this gear head to toe,
19:52
Speaker 1: zipped up so it's fireproof inside of a minute. And
19:55
Speaker 1: the truth is, real firefighters to tell you, if you
19:58
Speaker 1: take longer than thirty seconds, they're gonna talk bad about you. Um.
20:01
Speaker 1: So while you technically have a minute, if you if
20:04
Speaker 1: you if you're forty seconds, forty five seconds. They're like, moon, dude,
20:07
Speaker 1: you don't get to go to the fire with me.
20:08
Speaker 1: You got to go to the b ships a ship
20:11
Speaker 1: a ship. Get it done in thirty seconds. So getting
20:13
Speaker 1: dressed is hard. You know, you understand that there's a
20:16
Speaker 1: whole other level of physicality, um, and that I was
20:19
Speaker 1: ready for that. I was ready bust out physically, and
20:21
Speaker 1: so running upstairs, and you know I told him first out,
20:23
Speaker 1: I was saying, look, I have no fear of heights.
20:26
Speaker 1: I love jumping off the stuff and dangling from sid
20:29
Speaker 1: I said, so you pretty much put me through it.
20:31
Speaker 1: Do it. And so they would get mad at me
20:33
Speaker 1: for the first couple of seasons because they'd have a
20:35
Speaker 1: forty ft ladder going up to the fourth story of
20:37
Speaker 1: the building and don't tell me to climb that. If
20:39
Speaker 1: you only want me to climb like six steps in,
20:41
Speaker 1: y'all cut because I'll get up, you know, I'll ge
20:44
Speaker 1: up to the second third point. They're like they're yelling,
20:46
Speaker 1: They're like, insurance won't let you do that. And I
20:49
Speaker 1: was like, yo, y'all gave me a ladder, so I'm running.
20:52
Speaker 1: That's how I was writing on me and that's how
20:54
Speaker 1: I get down. So uh, it's definitely different thing, and
20:57
Speaker 1: then trying to find a way to bring that intensity
21:00
Speaker 1: into the acting and into the performances while still bringing
21:02
Speaker 1: in the fact that these these firefighters care so much
21:06
Speaker 1: about the people. That's the fun thing is that when
21:08
Speaker 1: you're sending still and talking to people over their bed
21:12
Speaker 1: in the hospital, it's easy to let that care and
21:15
Speaker 1: come through that emotion, that empathy come through. But when
21:18
Speaker 1: you're trying to drag somebody out of the fire, you're
21:20
Speaker 1: trying to drag somebody out of the situation and carry
21:23
Speaker 1: them over your shoulder, And that's where the things you're
21:25
Speaker 1: finding a way to let the empathy be seen. Because
21:27
Speaker 1: the reality is if you've ever met a firefighters, you
21:29
Speaker 1: met any of these first respondents, they have the biggest hearts.
21:32
Speaker 1: I mean, they have gallows humor like doctors do, in
21:35
Speaker 1: the same kind. They'll make jokes just like soldiers do.
21:37
Speaker 1: And you know, like they'll make jokes that are inappropriate
21:40
Speaker 1: in so many ways because they see the worst things
21:42
Speaker 1: in the world. But you want to see a firefighter
21:46
Speaker 1: in tears in their eyes. Let them see when the
21:48
Speaker 1: kid gets hurt, um catching when the kid gets hurt.
21:51
Speaker 1: And then you realize how big their hearts are, and
21:53
Speaker 1: so that for me was or how much they care
21:55
Speaker 1: about each other, like, uh, the U we had this one.
21:59
Speaker 1: One of our five tech consultants showed me this documentary
22:02
Speaker 1: they made back when he was in Detroit and he
22:04
Speaker 1: called him his fired that he would point to this
22:06
Speaker 1: one gentleman. This is a this is a young white guy,
22:10
Speaker 1: but his fired dad was his old brother. And this
22:12
Speaker 1: old black gentleman. Uh back there and as soon as
22:14
Speaker 1: he started talking about him, his eyes get hearing because
22:17
Speaker 1: he loves that man so much, he said. He talked
22:20
Speaker 1: me about being a firefighter, talked me about being a man,
22:23
Speaker 1: taught me about how to you know, how to survive
22:26
Speaker 1: emotionally when you lose people, and that lets the that's
22:31
Speaker 1: the thing that emotionally has been the most fun as
22:33
Speaker 1: an actor. The physicality is all great and fun, but
22:36
Speaker 1: you need to find a way to get that level
22:38
Speaker 1: and depth of emotion that these men and women have
22:42
Speaker 1: to come out in the middle of all that action.
22:43
Speaker 1: And that's been a challenge and that's been the most
22:45
Speaker 1: fun parties. I think the writer set us up and
22:47
Speaker 1: I feel like the entire test that's a beautiful job. Well,
22:50
Speaker 1: the thing about the show I called Station. I'm talking
22:53
Speaker 1: to interviewing Jason George when of the stars of Station
22:56
Speaker 1: eighteen Thursday and watching Love at the Returns a p m.
22:59
Speaker 1: Eastern standard I'm on ABC. I tell the series is
23:02
Speaker 1: a telling like it is series. You know, you have
23:04
Speaker 1: strong black, dynamic character storylines, great a gay and lesbian,
23:09
Speaker 1: transgender storylines, and it plays itself out in a real
23:14
Speaker 1: world environment. You have under you know, commitment non commitment.
23:18
Speaker 1: That's a lot of dynamics. You have a family in
23:20
Speaker 1: fact in the season, then you have to deal with
23:22
Speaker 1: the death in your family, revealing that information out to
23:25
Speaker 1: your children. Talk about that. Those those different when you
23:28
Speaker 1: have the table read or you're going through all these
23:30
Speaker 1: characters and your character plays a major role and and
23:33
Speaker 1: and and seamlessly has to associate itself with all these
23:36
Speaker 1: different lifestyles, these different emotions. But but keeping it real though,
23:41
Speaker 1: that's what I really enjoy about the series Station. The team. Yeah,
23:45
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's it's a beautiful situation because
23:48
Speaker 1: it's what's happening more and more on television and film
23:50
Speaker 1: in general. But Shana Lyn was kind of right at
23:53
Speaker 1: the crest that wave, that We're gonna tell a diverse
23:56
Speaker 1: group of stories and make everybody realize that your story
23:59
Speaker 1: is not that different from my story, I mean, uh.
24:02
Speaker 1: And so the diversity that we have on screen is
24:07
Speaker 1: largely supported by the fact that they have diversity in
24:10
Speaker 1: the writer's room and diversity, you know. I mean, I've
24:12
Speaker 1: never worked with more female directors, more directors of color,
24:16
Speaker 1: black directors, um then I have since I've been in
24:19
Speaker 1: Shanda Land. And so when you have that behind the scenes,
24:21
Speaker 1: that lets real, authentic stories get told on screen. And
24:26
Speaker 1: so when we get into that, it makes it you know,
24:28
Speaker 1: it makes it really interesting and and and uh fun
24:32
Speaker 1: as an actor to play its presents these challenges, and
24:35
Speaker 1: so we're able to tell all these different aspects that
24:37
Speaker 1: haven't always gotten much play on you know, on television.
24:41
Speaker 1: I mean, the reality is, you know, there's a term
24:43
Speaker 1: in uh uh in black Hollywood. Uh. You know, I
24:48
Speaker 1: started my career as the BBS oftentimes the black best friend.
24:52
Speaker 1: You know, my job is to show up and uh
24:53
Speaker 1: and asked the white male league. You know, hey, man,
24:55
Speaker 1: how is your day so we can talk about his
24:57
Speaker 1: love problems and things going on in his life. Well,
25:00
Speaker 1: that's tough. And then that's that's my job. They know,
25:02
Speaker 1: not collect my check and go home. But now everybody,
25:06
Speaker 1: everybody has a real full life, and the fact that
25:11
Speaker 1: you know, Shanna rhymes is why they create these ensemble
25:13
Speaker 1: shows to make sure that everybody and and it also
25:16
Speaker 1: works great for an actor because you know, I've got
25:18
Speaker 1: an episode that we're about to shoot starting this week
25:21
Speaker 1: where I'm in almost every scene and I'm I'm working
25:25
Speaker 1: every day, and then We'll have an episode two episodes
25:28
Speaker 1: from now where I'll show up for two days because
25:32
Speaker 1: they rotate. It means I get, as an actor, get
25:34
Speaker 1: to have a life outside of the show. Um, I
25:37
Speaker 1: get to be with my family, my kids, and then
25:39
Speaker 1: I'm like, by the way, kids, you're not gonna see
25:40
Speaker 1: me this week. Dad's gonna go to work at six
25:42
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, come home at eight or nine
25:44
Speaker 1: o'clock and you're not gonna see me much because I'm
25:46
Speaker 1: in deep this one. But then a couple of weeks
25:48
Speaker 1: after that, you know, they get to see me and
25:51
Speaker 1: I get to be around so they that diversity creates
25:55
Speaker 1: a big atmosphere, big ensemble, and they get to tell
25:58
Speaker 1: a lot of different kinds of stories, which is I
26:00
Speaker 1: think American needs right now is they need to hear
26:02
Speaker 1: some of the stories that haven't been told, all those
26:04
Speaker 1: underres and communities that have been dying to see themselves
26:07
Speaker 1: and hear their own stories told. Uh. Now we're starting
26:11
Speaker 1: to get told more and more on television, especially on
26:13
Speaker 1: shows like Station nineteen, well the Station A Team when
26:16
Speaker 1: it comes back. Like I said earlier, you know that
26:19
Speaker 1: in the season finale, you know it's a dramatic one.
26:22
Speaker 1: You know, Uh, I guess it was a sexual trafficking
26:24
Speaker 1: situation that was broken up in the end. Uh, the
26:27
Speaker 1: police showed up. I didn't really want to show up,
26:29
Speaker 1: and you know, my man Miller, he got arrested, and
26:32
Speaker 1: then uh, Celiban he hit I think he hit a cop.
26:35
Speaker 1: He got arrested, and then we're at that world that
26:38
Speaker 1: we're in today, that kind of like the George Floyd
26:40
Speaker 1: world that we're in where cops don't have an understanding
26:43
Speaker 1: of people of color, of people. Was that was that
26:45
Speaker 1: important to see that play out on your show? Because
26:48
Speaker 1: like I always tell everybody Station eighteen, you want to
26:50
Speaker 1: see a real slice of life as it plays out
26:53
Speaker 1: and character relationships and though it was we all can
26:56
Speaker 1: get along if we understand each other values. That's that
26:59
Speaker 1: that finale was powerful to be. How is that leading
27:01
Speaker 1: to the premier episode March your level, We're gonna pick
27:05
Speaker 1: up with that storyline. I mean, that storyline is gonna
27:07
Speaker 1: travel through for a little bit of the difficulties with it.
27:10
Speaker 1: I mean we did this. We did a story in
27:11
Speaker 1: last season where we were all the firefighters were meeting
27:14
Speaker 1: with a therapist psychiatrist, and we're talking about our problems
27:18
Speaker 1: and you find out that recently been had a scenario
27:21
Speaker 1: where a police officer pulled him out of the car
27:23
Speaker 1: and made him lay face down to the ground, uh
27:26
Speaker 1: until he got his wild out, and that sort of
27:27
Speaker 1: thing to be based on nothing, based on nothing that's
27:29
Speaker 1: been done, Uh, scenario that you know most black people,
27:33
Speaker 1: certain you know, the eyes of black men have lived
27:36
Speaker 1: a couple of different times, um, you know, driving all black.
27:39
Speaker 1: And it was powerful episode because the whole idea of
27:43
Speaker 1: the reason why that was powerful for me to do
27:45
Speaker 1: and why I really want to make sure that it happened,
27:46
Speaker 1: was that people want to say, well George Floyd was
27:50
Speaker 1: doing was he right in bad check? Was he well
27:52
Speaker 1: he was in the middle for me the crime, Well,
27:54
Speaker 1: if he hadn't been someplace doing something with the wrong people,
27:57
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, here's what you're not here.
28:00
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who you were with what you were doing.
28:02
Speaker 1: Driving all black can happen to anybody, including a firefighters, surgeon,
28:07
Speaker 1: uh and a caesiologist, you know, one of the good ones,
28:10
Speaker 1: because they don't know who you are until they until
28:13
Speaker 1: they get to know you, and right now you're just
28:15
Speaker 1: a black man in the car. So that that kind
28:18
Speaker 1: of that level of judgment was important to show that
28:20
Speaker 1: who you are and what you are about and all
28:22
Speaker 1: your accomplishments. They can't see that up from um and
28:26
Speaker 1: so they can't see the firefighter outfit. But then but
28:28
Speaker 1: then credit to uh, say another one who plays Dean Miller.
28:35
Speaker 1: Everybody calls him who plays Dean Miller. He really helped
28:37
Speaker 1: push and say, we can that story. I can't just
28:39
Speaker 1: be a one off. And so that's one of the
28:41
Speaker 1: reasons why God bless Christop vern Off, our showrunner. She's
28:44
Speaker 1: really about making great entertainment but also trying to make
28:49
Speaker 1: people think, you know, to educate a little bit, maybe
28:52
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to deal with these issues. So they
28:54
Speaker 1: brought it back and that's where you have these firefighters
28:57
Speaker 1: who are out of uniform getting treated some kind of
28:59
Speaker 1: way by police officers, you know, and and it's anything
29:03
Speaker 1: they do a beautiful job and making a balance because
29:05
Speaker 1: there's the one top who is not having any of it,
29:07
Speaker 1: you know, you know, and puts the you know, slams
29:10
Speaker 1: dem on the hood of the car. And then there's
29:12
Speaker 1: another cop who you know has a problem with it,
29:15
Speaker 1: but he's not the supery officer, so he just kind
29:18
Speaker 1: of goes along, you know. When they slammed the young
29:22
Speaker 1: girl's mother on the hood of the car, that's what
29:25
Speaker 1: That's what just got it all triggered. Treating a woman
29:27
Speaker 1: like that, you know, that's what. Treating a woman like that,
29:33
Speaker 1: and treating her like that because you don't necessarily believe
29:35
Speaker 1: the situation that you don't give the credibility to them
29:38
Speaker 1: when she says, my child is stuck in there, you know.
29:40
Speaker 1: And uh. And the show has done a lot of
29:42
Speaker 1: different things. I mean, like, you know, there's an episode
29:44
Speaker 1: where Seanzo Wilson, who plays Bailey, my character's wife on
29:48
Speaker 1: the show, us beloved character, phenomenal actress, they didn't have
29:51
Speaker 1: a few episodes where she had a heart attack and
29:54
Speaker 1: the doctors and are trying to tell her you're you're
29:56
Speaker 1: not You're not having a heart attack, and she's like,
29:57
Speaker 1: I am a chief of surgery, had graceful memorial. I
30:01
Speaker 1: know what's gonna because black women present heart attacks, heart
30:04
Speaker 1: problems different than white men. Uh, different than white folks.
30:09
Speaker 1: And she and it's like, your assumptions of me are
30:11
Speaker 1: different because they just did an episode on Grades where
30:14
Speaker 1: they did the same thing with an Asian American because
30:16
Speaker 1: they're their health problems that present differently in the Asian
30:20
Speaker 1: American community, you know, and it's just hit they hit
30:22
Speaker 1: those issues that there's you know, a million different you know,
30:25
Speaker 1: sexual aids for men, but that many for women that
30:29
Speaker 1: you know, who's in charge makes the rules. So they're
30:31
Speaker 1: just trying to point up all those different things. So,
30:34
Speaker 1: but they thought to bring that storyline back about the
30:35
Speaker 1: social justice in this show and use sex trafficking because
30:39
Speaker 1: you know, and I've been pushing for that storyline on
30:41
Speaker 1: the show for a while. And it's and they want
30:43
Speaker 1: to write everything they want, but everything in the show,
30:45
Speaker 1: so it can't necessarily fit in right away. But you know,
30:47
Speaker 1: I remember I was having a meeting with Karen Bass
30:49
Speaker 1: Congresswoman Karen Bass and she said, listen, you all need
30:52
Speaker 1: to put this on the show. This is a few
30:54
Speaker 1: years ago, and she said, you know that the number
30:56
Speaker 1: one traffic human being in America is a four to
31:00
Speaker 1: your old black girl. And I don't know if the
31:04
Speaker 1: statute changed since we first talked. I pray that they have,
31:07
Speaker 1: but believe that young black girls are still the among
31:10
Speaker 1: the if not the most traffic human beings the planet.
31:13
Speaker 1: And so the writers wrote that into the show. And
31:16
Speaker 1: for me, that's that's why I'm so proud of the show,
31:20
Speaker 1: is that they're gonna have those conversations and make folks
31:22
Speaker 1: at home get their entertainment. You're gonna get your entertainment,
31:24
Speaker 1: you're gonna get your sexy, you're gonna have your feels
31:26
Speaker 1: and cut your girls. But you're also gonna have a
31:29
Speaker 1: conversation about does that really happen? And yes, yes it's happening,
31:33
Speaker 1: And it's happening in neighborhoods you would not expect, in
31:35
Speaker 1: places you would not assume. Uh. And typically, you know,
31:39
Speaker 1: America doesn't care as much when they're you know, darker
31:42
Speaker 1: skinned young girls, when they're blind. Here in Blue Eye,
31:45
Speaker 1: they stay on the news um. But when they're you know,
31:49
Speaker 1: young black women, typically not as much. And then that's
31:52
Speaker 1: reflected in the fact that the cop doesn't believe them
31:54
Speaker 1: when they tell them that there's young girls being trapped.
31:56
Speaker 1: And so it's all these assumption and biases that people have.
32:00
Speaker 1: And it's not about saying anybody's a horrible, evil human
32:03
Speaker 1: being out the box inherently, but it's about saying, you
32:05
Speaker 1: have bites and you gotta recognize that, because if you
32:08
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