Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / BIDEN DEMANDS more money for Ukraine, as Officials Admit Military Contract Money ‘Vanished’!
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- 0:01Speaker 1: The New York Times is finally waking up to corruption
- 0:05Speaker 1: in Ukraine, as officials that met. Now, military contract money
- 0:10Speaker 1: has quote vanished. Now to be clear, this is your
- 0:13Speaker 1: tax dollars. As I've warned you for a couple of
- 0:17Speaker 1: years now, if you think that Russia is corrupt, you've
- 0:21Speaker 1: seen nothing compared to how corrupt it is in Ukraine.
- 0:26Speaker 1: Russians actually have talked for decades about how corrupt Ukraine is,
- 0:32Speaker 1: and they're not the only one. There have been many
- 0:35Speaker 1: other world leaders that have been warning the US you
- 0:39Speaker 1: might not want to be sending all the money you're
- 0:41Speaker 1: sending to Ukraine because you're not actually helping them fight
- 0:45Speaker 1: the Russians as much as you're helping Ukrainian oligarchs get really,
- 0:50Speaker 1: really rich. Now, I went over to the border with
- 0:56Speaker 1: Ukraine and I went over and met with the leader
- 0:59Speaker 1: in Hungary. They have been dealing with the humanitarian crisis
- 1:03Speaker 1: that has been coming out of Ukraine and the millions
- 1:06Speaker 1: coming in too hungry, and then even going to other
- 1:11Speaker 1: parts of Europe. Victor Raban, who's the prime minister I
- 1:15Speaker 1: have a relationship with. We set down when I was
- 1:18Speaker 1: there just a couple of months ago, and he was
- 1:21Speaker 1: explaining to me just how corrupt the Ukrainian government is.
- 1:26Speaker 1: And this is under Zelenski, to be very clear. As
- 1:30Speaker 1: we were sitting there and talking about the cash and
- 1:33Speaker 1: the money, he would explain how the money was being funneled.
- 1:36Speaker 1: He would explain just how corrupt they were. And he
- 1:39Speaker 1: was explaining that the richest people in the Ukrainian government,
- 1:43Speaker 1: they're actually most of them aren't even in Ukraine all
- 1:46Speaker 1: that often. Right now, they're in Warsaw. They're hanging out
- 1:49Speaker 1: in Warsaw in five star hotels. They're hanging out in
- 1:53Speaker 1: Warsaw having a grand time. And while they're in Warsaw
- 1:59Speaker 1: in these five star hotels, they're counting their money. They're
- 2:02Speaker 1: funneling their money. They're making money because every time we
- 2:06Speaker 1: send billions more to Ukraine, they're cashing out. War is
- 2:12Speaker 1: good for the oligarchs in Ukraine. War is good for
- 2:15Speaker 1: the corruption in Ukraine because when there's war, it's very
- 2:18Speaker 1: hard to follow the money. So, in a potential sign
- 2:22Speaker 1: of shifting attitudes on how the war in Ukraine has
- 2:26Speaker 1: covered in the legacy media, the New York Times is
- 2:30Speaker 1: starting to slowly acknowledge the endemic corruption that has been
- 2:36Speaker 1: a defining feature of the former Soviet state, as officials
- 2:40Speaker 1: have now admitted that the money for military contracts has
- 2:45Speaker 1: quote vanished following the dismissal of the Ukrainian Defense Minister
- 2:51Speaker 1: amid a slew of corruption scandals surrounding the war efforts
- 2:55Speaker 1: against Russia, The New York Times acknowledge that the enduring
- 3:00Speaker 1: challenges a corruption Ukraine, their words, has emerged as a
- 3:03Speaker 1: rare area of criticism of President Zolensky's leadership. A rare
- 3:07Speaker 1: area of criticism. I love how they describe that right,
- 3:10Speaker 1: like he's doing everything else right, except all the money
- 3:12Speaker 1: you're sitting him is not getting the battlefield. That's what
- 3:15Speaker 1: they're telling you here with their corruption. You should be
- 3:19Speaker 1: angry when I say it this way. You should be
- 3:22Speaker 1: angry the fact that they are even saying it and
- 3:26Speaker 1: still trying to give Zolensky accolades. Now, you got to
- 3:30Speaker 1: understand something about Zelensky. Zelensky isn't some great military warrior
- 3:34Speaker 1: or leader. He's a former actor. He's an actor. While
- 3:38Speaker 1: the country is under siege, it was listening to concerts
- 3:42Speaker 1: and having world stars come over and meeting with world leaders,
- 3:45Speaker 1: begging for more money for his corrupt government to then
- 3:48Speaker 1: funnel into their own personal bank accounts and for them
- 3:52Speaker 1: and their families to live in warsaw in five star hotels.
- 3:57Speaker 1: Zolensky is the guy that's on all the Grammys, the
- 4:00Speaker 1: Emmys and everything else, right, every award show. It's the
- 4:03Speaker 1: guy that's going around the world and fake military fatigues.
- 4:07Speaker 1: They're really not even real military fatigues, they're fake. Right.
- 4:10Speaker 1: He has a stylist that helps him get his image.
- 4:13Speaker 1: You may remember that Zolensky when he met with Donald Trump,
- 4:17Speaker 1: he wore a suit like a normal world leader. But
- 4:20Speaker 1: when you have a chance to look like you're under siege,
- 4:23Speaker 1: you wear military esque type clothing, fake military fatigues, and
- 4:28Speaker 1: you wear them without even a patch on there the
- 4:30Speaker 1: country that you're representing. It makes it look like your
- 4:34Speaker 1: world war torn country desperately needs cash. It makes it
- 4:40Speaker 1: look like you're a strong leader. And that's the reason
- 4:43Speaker 1: why the media is refused to criticize him, right, because
- 4:47Speaker 1: he's the hero and Vladimir Putin is the villain, which
- 4:50Speaker 1: may actually not be the case. There's actually a chance
- 4:53Speaker 1: that they're both in many ways villains, but of course
- 4:56Speaker 1: you can't tell the mainstream media that because if you
- 4:59Speaker 1: don't virtue signal and back Ukraine and the war against
- 5:03Speaker 1: the evil villain Vladimir Putin, then you're an evil person.
- 5:07Speaker 1: That's how the media treats you. And that's exactly why
- 5:09Speaker 1: The New York Times has put it this way, with
- 5:12Speaker 1: a big caveat, a big pause, right, and enduring challenge
- 5:16Speaker 1: it the enduring challenge of corruption in Ukraine has quote
- 5:19Speaker 1: emerged as a rare area of criticism, a rare area
- 5:22Speaker 1: of criticism. Well, if the entire funding for the war
- 5:28Speaker 1: effort is the war effort, and the entire war effort
- 5:32Speaker 1: is dealing with corruption and money that has vanished that
- 5:37Speaker 1: was supposed to go to fighting the Russians, then why
- 5:40Speaker 1: would you refer to this as a rare area of criticism.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you refer to it as what it actually is,
- 5:47Speaker 1: which is the entire thing is a complete ruse. Now,
- 5:51Speaker 1: although the Defense Minister has yet to be tried or
- 5:57Speaker 1: charged or tied with any of the corruption scandals quote
- 6:01Speaker 1: unquote personally, the Ukrainian government says, The Times went on
- 6:05Speaker 1: to admit that the resignation has elevated the issue to
- 6:09Speaker 1: the highest level of Ukrainian politics. Unnamed Ukrainian officials even
- 6:13Speaker 1: told The New York Times that some funds intended for
- 6:16Speaker 1: military contracts failed to produce weaponry or ammunition, and that
- 6:22Speaker 1: some money has quote vanished well, claiming that the issue
- 6:26Speaker 1: was merely confined to the early days of the war,
- 6:29Speaker 1: because of course they're gonna say, all right, well, they
- 6:30Speaker 1: just stole a bunch of money early on, but now
- 6:32Speaker 1: the money's really working there, we promise, right right, we promise.
- 6:38Speaker 1: The neoliberal outlet has previous been previously been king to
- 6:42Speaker 1: highlighting claims from the Biden administration on how the Violensky
- 6:46Speaker 1: government has been committed quote unquote to fighting corruption. Remember
- 6:50Speaker 1: this is the same government that you're supposed to believe
- 6:53Speaker 1: was trying to fight corruption when they fired a prosecutor
- 6:57Speaker 1: who was actually fighting corruption, corruption with barisma and corruption
- 7:04Speaker 1: that was tied to the president of the United States
- 7:05Speaker 1: of America. And remember the corruption got the bidens ten
- 7:08Speaker 1: billion dollars ten billion or excuse me, let me rephrase
- 7:13Speaker 1: that ten million. Sorry, I want to make sure I
- 7:15Speaker 1: get that right, so no one freaks out. Ten million
- 7:18Speaker 1: dollars is how much the Bidence got off of that deal.
- 7:24Speaker 1: The Zelenski government is not committed to fighting corruption. If
- 7:27Speaker 1: they were, they wouldn't have allowed that prosecutor that was
- 7:31Speaker 1: going after corruption Ukraine to be fired and then the
- 7:34Speaker 1: mind to be funneled back to the Bidens. Now, the
- 7:37Speaker 1: New York Times says, well, they're working on fighting corruption.
- 7:40Speaker 1: They cited as evidence statements from officials such as veteran
- 7:44Speaker 1: Washington insider enacting Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuwan, who
- 7:50Speaker 1: played a pivotal role in the revolution Ukraine that saw
- 7:54Speaker 1: the overthrow of democratically elected President Victor in two thousand
- 8:01Speaker 1: and fourteen. Despite the nine senior government officials being sacked
- 8:08Speaker 1: over allegations of corruption, not one, not two, not three,
- 8:11Speaker 1: not four, not five, not six, on seven and eight,
- 8:13Speaker 1: but nine senior government officials who've been sacked over corruption allegations,
- 8:17Speaker 1: including purchasing military food supplies at vastly inflated prices to
- 8:23Speaker 1: look up their friends and taking luxury vacations while the
- 8:27Speaker 1: war was going on. The paper went on to write
- 8:29Speaker 1: in January that corruption quote has otherwise not been a
- 8:33Speaker 1: significant factor in the war. That's what the New York
- 8:37Speaker 1: Time set. In fact, they even went on to say
- 8:39Speaker 1: this back in January, despite Russian propaganda claims to the
- 8:43Speaker 1: contrary that are aimed at undermining his Zolenski's government. See,
- 8:48Speaker 1: Russia's been telling people how corrupt Ukraine is. And when
- 8:51Speaker 1: they do it, immediately the paper says The New York
- 8:54Speaker 1: Times and the lefties are like, oh no, no, that's propaganda.
- 8:57Speaker 1: That's all it is. It's just propaganda, calmed down, Okay,
- 9:01Speaker 1: it's propaganda. Ukraine corruption scandal deepens. Another headline reads, as
- 9:06Speaker 1: Zelenski sacks string of officials. The proclamation for The New
- 9:12Speaker 1: York Times age poorly. By the way, if you go
- 9:15Speaker 1: back just to January. Just days later, there was a
- 9:18Speaker 1: report that came out Transparency International gave Ukraine a score
- 9:23Speaker 1: of thirty three out of one hundred, and it's annual
- 9:25Speaker 1: Corruption Perception Index known as the CPI, ranking one hundred
- 9:30Speaker 1: and sixteenth in the world and the second lowis in
- 9:33Speaker 1: all of Europe, only behind Russia. What did I tell
- 9:39Speaker 1: you at the beginning? I said that Ukraine is more
- 9:42Speaker 1: corrupt than even Russia. And guess what, I'm not the
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- 11:15Speaker 1: of the one hundred and thirteen billion in American taxpayer
- 11:20Speaker 1: dollars that we've sent to Ukraine following Russia's invasion, The
- 11:25Speaker 1: Republican Ledhouse Oversight Committee went on to note in February,
- 11:30Speaker 1: and this is their exact words back in February, that
- 11:33Speaker 1: the Ukrainian government officials allegedly engaged in bribery, used government
- 11:37Speaker 1: vehicles for personal use, and purchase inflated food supplies for
- 11:43Speaker 1: Ukrainian forces. Why for kickbacks? Why were they doing this?
- 11:50Speaker 1: And if we know this back in February, why did
- 11:52Speaker 1: it take this long for the New York Times cover
- 11:55Speaker 1: it since we're now in September. It's because they didn't
- 12:00Speaker 1: want anybody to know what was actually happening. They didn't
- 12:02Speaker 1: want anybody to talk about it. They didn't want it
- 12:04Speaker 1: to be an issue. They didn't want to have the
- 12:06Speaker 1: conversation we're having right now because at that point. Remember,
- 12:09Speaker 1: we were obsessed with a guy wearing fake military fatigues
- 12:12Speaker 1: named Zelensky who could do no wrong, right because he's good.
- 12:15Speaker 1: We've decided it war's good, right for the Democratic Party
- 12:19Speaker 1: right now, and Russia is bad. And that's just the
- 12:21Speaker 1: narrative we're going to stick with now. Since that warning
- 12:26Speaker 1: back in January and February, corruption scandals surrounding the war
- 12:31Speaker 1: effort have continued to emerge. Last month, for example, every
- 12:34Speaker 1: single head of regional recruitment offices throughout Ukraine was fired,
- 12:40Speaker 1: every single one of them, amid allegations of widespread bribery
- 12:44Speaker 1: of officials from those seeking to avoid conscription into the
- 12:49Speaker 1: war quote unquote. Two weeks later, first Deputy Minister of
- 12:56Speaker 1: Policy and Food and another government individual another unnamed quote
- 13:04Speaker 1: economic minister, were sacked on suspicions of misappropriating one point
- 13:08Speaker 1: six eight million in government funds. Following the ousting of
- 13:14Speaker 1: the Defense minister on Monday, the New York Times acknowledge
- 13:17Speaker 1: that although there have yet to be specific allegations of
- 13:20Speaker 1: corruption involving American funding, that's their caveat here. The nature
- 13:27Speaker 1: of graft in the country has shifted from its traditional
- 13:30Speaker 1: avenues of exploiting state run enterprises to a focus on
- 13:34Speaker 1: war profiteering as billions pour into the country from abroad.
- 13:39Speaker 1: That's the words the New York Times. Speaking of the paper,
- 13:42Speaker 1: the executive director of the Anti Corruption Action Center in
- 13:46Speaker 1: Ukraine said, the question here is where is the money. Literally,
- 13:50Speaker 1: corruption can kill. She added, depending on how effective we
- 13:54Speaker 1: are in guarding the public funds the soldiers, we either
- 13:57Speaker 1: have a weapon or not have a weapon. This on
- 14:01Speaker 1: top of the fact that two high ranking government officials
- 14:03Speaker 1: have been embroiled in a corruption scandal and found to
- 14:06Speaker 1: have misappropriated one point six million in funds that no
- 14:10Speaker 1: one can find. The New York Times went on to
- 14:13Speaker 1: claim on Monday that there is a shifting mood within
- 14:16Speaker 1: Ukraine on the issue, which the paper said was mostly
- 14:19Speaker 1: taboo throughout the first year of the war as Ukrainians
- 14:23Speaker 1: rallied around their government in a fight for national survival.
- 14:27Speaker 1: The corruption scandals are nonetheless piercing the sense of unquestioning
- 14:33Speaker 1: support for the government the Ukrainians had exhibited throughout the
- 14:38Speaker 1: first year of Russia's full scale invasion. The critical reporting
- 14:44Speaker 1: of the issue of corruption Ukraine from The New York
- 14:48Speaker 1: Times may signal what many believe is a shift in
- 14:51Speaker 1: attitude overall towards the war and perhaps the Biden administration's
- 14:55Speaker 1: strategy of dumping weapons, hardware, and massive cachet of money
- 15:00Speaker 1: into the conflict and into the hands of people who
- 15:04Speaker 1: are clearly stealing the money. The White House is currently
- 15:07Speaker 1: trying to convince Congress, however, to greenlight an additional twenty
- 15:11Speaker 1: four billion an A to the country. However, elections loom
- 15:16Speaker 1: and more voters are now questioning the extent of our
- 15:21Speaker 1: involvement and why there's so many problems are still unresolved there,
- 15:26Speaker 1: as well as so many issues and problems here in
- 15:28Speaker 1: this country. Now, I go back to what I said
- 15:32Speaker 1: at the very beginning of this conversation. This is corruption
- 15:36Speaker 1: at the highest level. This is corruption at a level
- 15:41Speaker 1: that is not shocking. I think that's another point that
- 15:48Speaker 1: needs to be made. This is corruption that has been
- 15:52Speaker 1: known about, especially if you went and set with anybody
- 15:55Speaker 1: in Ukraine or outside of Ukraine, anybody around there, and
- 15:59Speaker 1: let me just tell you this. This is corruption. Okay,
- 16:02Speaker 1: that is obvious. This is corruption that everybody knows is
- 16:07Speaker 1: happening in broad daylight. So you're sending money and they're
- 16:11Speaker 1: stealing the money. You send more money and they steal
- 16:14Speaker 1: more money. You send more money and they steal even
- 16:17Speaker 1: more money. You get the trend here, right, It's pretty simple.
- 16:21Speaker 1: You send money, they steal money. You send money, they
- 16:24Speaker 1: steal money. You send more money, they steal more money.
- 16:26Speaker 1: You send bigger checks. They steal even more money in
- 16:29Speaker 1: bigger checks. This has been consistent. Okay, this has been
- 16:35Speaker 1: transparent from the very beginning. This has been something that
- 16:39Speaker 1: has been going on now and everybody knows it's happening.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Everybody can witness that it's happening. Everybody can watch it happening.
- 16:46Speaker 1: Everybody knows that it's happening. And yet we're still sending
- 16:50Speaker 1: the money because if you don't send the money, it's like, woh, well,
- 16:52Speaker 1: then you're in favor of Russia. And this is what
- 16:55Speaker 1: virtue signaling does right now with this administration, with this
- 17:01Speaker 1: media and around the world. If you asked any questions
- 17:05Speaker 1: over the last year, year and a half of what's
- 17:07Speaker 1: going on in Ukraine, and they would say that you
- 17:10Speaker 1: are a sympathizer. They would say that you are a
- 17:15Speaker 1: Russian sympathizer. That's what they would say. They would say
- 17:21Speaker 1: that you are a Russian sympathizer, and you're backing Vladimir Putin.
- 17:26Speaker 1: If you ask questions in this country, okay, in our government,
- 17:34Speaker 1: they would immediately come after you and they would say
- 17:36Speaker 1: you are a sympathizer. You are a Russian sympathizer. No,
- 17:42Speaker 1: I'm not. I absolutely hate Vladimir Putin, I can't stand him.
- 17:52Speaker 1: But I'm also not an idiot. And I also know
- 17:55Speaker 1: that there's serious and significant corruption, serious corruption that has
- 18:00Speaker 1: taking place in Ukraine long before this war ever happened.
- 18:06Speaker 1: And that is the point that everybody needs to understand.
- 18:10Speaker 1: This isn't new, this is normal. There's only one country
- 18:15Speaker 1: that ranks lower when it comes or higher when it
- 18:18Speaker 1: comes to corruption than Russia, and that's Ukraine in that
- 18:21Speaker 1: corruption report that came out. So like, if you think
- 18:24Speaker 1: that Russia is corrupt, then you've seen nothing until you
- 18:27Speaker 1: look at Ukraine. And that's been that way for decades.
- 18:30Speaker 1: And everybody knows it, folks, Okay, everybody knows that, So
- 18:36Speaker 1: why the hell are we seeing them? In essence, Plank
- 18:38Speaker 1: checks there's also those audio recordings. We talked about this
- 18:44Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. Apparently there's multi recordings that apparently
- 18:48Speaker 1: the government may actually have the FBI may have these recordings,
- 18:52Speaker 1: and on these recordings the man who owned Barrisma that
- 18:55Speaker 1: Russian oligarch, corrupt Russian oligarch, just like all the others
- 18:58Speaker 1: we've been talking about this morning, recorded phone calls between
- 19:02Speaker 1: him and Hunter Biden and apparently some conversations he had
- 19:06Speaker 1: with Joe Biden. Why did he do this? That is
- 19:09Speaker 1: the I'm covering my aaass if you ever turn on
- 19:13Speaker 1: me strategy. By the way, it's smart strategy. I don't
- 19:16Speaker 1: blame the guy for doing this. It's a brilliant move.
- 19:19Speaker 1: So why is it that Joe Biden is still defending
- 19:22Speaker 1: sending billions of dollars to Ukraine instead of it going
- 19:26Speaker 1: to Americans who actually need it, by the way, like
- 19:29Speaker 1: those in Hawaii for example. Well here's what the President
- 19:34Speaker 1: had to say, is he laughed it off the question
- 19:36Speaker 1: over the weekend.
- 19:37Speaker 2: Mister Biden, you're sending all this money to Ukraine, but
- 19:41Speaker 2: there's Americans that are suffering at home.
- 19:43Speaker 1: Why come the money can't go here to war? Money's
- 19:46Speaker 1: going to America and ever before number one and number two.
- 19:48Speaker 1: If we don't do somebody, Ukraine and Americans are gonna
- 19:50Speaker 1: be fighting a war in Europe.
- 19:52Speaker 2: All right, doctor Biden, all this money going to your Ukraine.
- 19:56Speaker 1: What about Americans at right now?
- 19:58Speaker 2: What about Americans at home, doctor Biden?
- 20:02Speaker 1: So Joe Biden just said, if we don't send money now,
- 20:05Speaker 1: then Americans are going to be fighting a war in Europe.
- 20:09Speaker 1: That's an escalation, by the way, right, that's a pretty
- 20:13Speaker 1: big escalation. So you better let me send this money.
- 20:17Speaker 1: And if you don't, I may send your sons and
- 20:20Speaker 1: daughters or the non binary people right to Ukraine to
- 20:24Speaker 1: fight against Russia. Even CNN right now it's finally starting
- 20:29Speaker 1: to get their head out of their ables's and they're
- 20:31Speaker 1: reporting on the corruption. Listen more.
- 20:36Speaker 2: First, let's talk about this decision. Why has Alensky dropped
- 20:40Speaker 2: his defense minister All we understand ow it was that
- 20:45Speaker 2: this came at the request of Oleski Restakov, who's been
- 20:49Speaker 2: widely praised for what he's done over the last eighteen months,
- 20:52Speaker 2: the pretty firm record that he's shown in a very
- 20:56Speaker 2: difficult job. But also this is about aready drawing a
- 20:59Speaker 2: line against some of those scandals that we've seen, corruption allegations,
- 21:04Speaker 2: investigations that have gone on, procurement scandals that have emerged.
- 21:07Speaker 2: Many of them. I think it's important to note that
- 21:09Speaker 2: had to do with the early days of the war
- 21:11Speaker 2: with Ukrainian taxpayers money with Ukrainian weapons, but that have
- 21:15Speaker 2: still jogged the image of the country, not just as
- 21:19Speaker 2: it seeks to get more weapons from its Western allies,
- 21:21Speaker 2: but of course more broadly audios Ukraine looks to joining
- 21:25Speaker 2: NATO at some point and it's more fundamental aim of
- 21:27Speaker 2: being able to join the European Union. So Kiev has
- 21:30Speaker 2: been at pains to show that it is cracking down
- 21:32Speaker 2: on these corruption allegations, taking them extremely seriously, dealing with them,
- 21:37Speaker 2: and whilst Alexi Resnikov has not been tainted by them
- 21:40Speaker 2: at all. This really allows them to draw a line,
- 21:42Speaker 2: even as the rest are being made and investigations who
- 21:45Speaker 2: are being drawn to a close, to draw a line
- 21:48Speaker 2: under those first eighteen months of the war. Now, the
- 21:52Speaker 2: man taking over a crimean Tatar Ristam Umarov, who's widely
- 21:56Speaker 2: seen as a safe pair of hands. This is a
- 21:58Speaker 2: man who has a after all, been involved in several
- 22:01Speaker 2: prisoner swaps throughout the war. He's a businessman who's also
- 22:05Speaker 2: been involved in the Black Sea Grain initiative and is
- 22:08Speaker 2: wide he's seen there as a very complete man to
- 22:10Speaker 2: take over. Let's be clear what must be arguably one
- 22:13Speaker 2: of the hardest jobs in the world going forward. As
- 22:15Speaker 2: you said the nineteenth months of this war, it isn't
- 22:17Speaker 2: just about sustaining the war effort and getting Ukrainian weapons
- 22:21Speaker 2: up and going. It is also of course about holding
- 22:24Speaker 2: the Alliance together and keeping momentum there from Western Alliance
- 22:28Speaker 2: members who at this point are also getting extremely tired of.
- 22:31Speaker 1: This war out. Wellisa, before I let you go, what
- 22:33Speaker 1: does this mean for this counter offense have we've been
- 22:35Speaker 1: hearing about so much?
- 22:39Speaker 2: Well, this is going to be important because again, this
- 22:41Speaker 2: is a man who's going to take over. When they're
- 22:42Speaker 2: looking to get the weapons that will help feed this
- 22:44Speaker 2: counter offensive that is making progress to the south of
- 22:46Speaker 2: zabricha small assault units that are heading down trying to
- 22:49Speaker 2: extend the bridgehead to the south of Verbotna, that one
- 22:52Speaker 2: village that has been recaptured, and it is significant because
- 22:56Speaker 2: it does give them momentum and allow them to look
- 22:58Speaker 2: further southwards in their aims getting the right weaponry to
- 23:02Speaker 2: what will be a bigger soul down there as they
- 23:03Speaker 2: seek to draw Russian and eat frontline troops from elsewhere
- 23:06Speaker 2: along the front line will be crucial, and there is
- 23:08Speaker 2: the next weeks and months that will be really significant
- 23:12Speaker 2: and important to making this happen out here Melium.
- 23:16Speaker 1: Now you hear part of the propaganda there. Well, we
- 23:18Speaker 1: still have to stay focused on this. And there's no
- 23:20Speaker 1: indication that the Defense minister, right, there's no indication he's
- 23:24Speaker 1: actually don anything wrong. They wouldn't have fired him if
- 23:26Speaker 1: you wouldn't have done something wrong, Okay, they wouldn't have
- 23:28Speaker 1: fired him in candem. And they're like, well, they're really
- 23:31Speaker 1: trying to show they're acting and they're moving forward on this,
- 23:33Speaker 1: and they're moving forward quickly, and they're acting quickly on this.
- 23:36Speaker 1: I'm sorry I got to say bs on that one.
- 23:39Speaker 1: The only reason why this is now happening is because
- 23:43Speaker 1: people are reporting on it for months on end, and
- 23:46Speaker 1: the story hasn't disappeared. That's the part that you need
- 23:50Speaker 1: to understand about this. They're not doing any of this
- 23:54Speaker 1: now because they're trying to get rid of corruption. They're
- 24:00Speaker 1: trying to do it now. A better way of putting
- 24:03Speaker 1: it is to keep the money flowing. I'm sure Zolensky's
- 24:08Speaker 1: looking at these guys going, hey, there's tony articles about
- 24:09Speaker 1: corruption here, I'm afraid the billions are gonna stop flowing. Guys.
- 24:12Speaker 1: We all got to get paid, Okay, we all got
- 24:15Speaker 1: to make our money. So the way that we're gonna
- 24:17Speaker 1: make our money is me me sacking some of you. Guys.
- 24:20Speaker 1: Don't worry, you're still good. This is nothing but a
- 24:23Speaker 1: PR play, plain and simple. It's a PR play. It's
- 24:30Speaker 1: a simple PR play. It's a smart Let me also
- 24:33Speaker 1: say this, it is a very smart PR play. Okay,
- 24:37Speaker 1: it's a brilliant PR move. It's a PR move that
- 24:41Speaker 1: we need it, right, if you're Zolensky and his team,
- 24:44Speaker 1: A right, look, things are, we're getting these articles. We
- 24:46Speaker 1: got to look like we're cleaning this crap up so
- 24:49Speaker 1: that they keep saying it's the money. By the way,
- 24:51Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some Democrats in Washington, d C. I'm
- 24:54Speaker 1: sure of that. I have no doubt in my mind.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Okay that there are some Democrats in DC and are
- 25:00Speaker 1: probably saying, hey, heads up, you guys are gonna have
- 25:05Speaker 1: a hard time getting more cash out of the US
- 25:07Speaker 1: if you guys don't look like you're doing something on corruption, Like,
- 25:10Speaker 1: heads up, this is what's happening. You need to understand it.
- 25:14Speaker 1: That's my gut here. I feel pretty confident that there
- 25:18Speaker 1: are even maybe people in the White House who are saying, hey,
- 25:21Speaker 1: you guys have got to look like you're fixing some
- 25:22Speaker 1: of these problems. Because if you don't look like you're
- 25:24Speaker 1: fixing these problems, we're gonna have a hard time convincing
- 25:28Speaker 1: for another one hundred billion to come your way, another
- 25:32Speaker 1: fifty billion to come your way, another seventy five billion
- 25:35Speaker 1: to come your way, It's gonna be tough. So we
- 25:37Speaker 1: need you to work on this real quick. I have
- 25:40Speaker 1: no doubt that's what this is all about. Please take
- 25:44Speaker 1: everything I just told you, share it with your family
- 25:46Speaker 1: and friends, take our podcast, share it wherever you can
- 25:51Speaker 1: on social media, because I promise you what I just
- 25:54Speaker 1: told you is not and will not be covered by
- 25:58Speaker 1: the mainstream media. They are not going to do it.