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CA Fraud Explosion 'Shooting Fish w Dynamite' plus 'Fauci Shaped COVID Narrative' Whistleblower Claims · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Eight hundred hospices that last year charged the federal taxpayer
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  Speaker 1: one point four billion dollars will no longer be paid.
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  Speaker 1: Mister Vice President, if your core business was shut down
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  Speaker 1: by the federal government, would you call You would call crickets.
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  Speaker 1: We have less than twenty who have complained. We're not
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  Speaker 1: even sure there's are legitimate eight hundred hospices shut down,
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  Speaker 1: and we're not hearing much the seconds crickets out there.
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  Speaker 2: You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson.
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  Speaker 3: Good Thursday morning. Nice to have you with us from
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  Speaker 3: the forty seven Morning Update, and we've got two big
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  Speaker 3: stories for you. First up, JD. Vance making government fraud
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  Speaker 3: of front and center issue and the numbers being uncovered
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  Speaker 3: are staggering. Vance not only is saying that the Fraud
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  Speaker 3: Task Force has found hundreds of thousands of dead people
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  Speaker 3: getting Foodstap benefits and now also shocking numbers of massive
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  Speaker 3: Medicaid fraud going to home health care and hospice providers. Also,
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  Speaker 3: there was a major hearing from a CIA whistleblower on
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  Speaker 3: Capitol Hill and not a single Democrat was there for
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  Speaker 3: the testimony. What are they running away from and what
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  Speaker 3: did the whistleblower have to say? We have it all
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  Speaker 2: Story number one.
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  Speaker 3: When Donald Trump got elected, he made it very clear
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  Speaker 3: that waste fraud of use were going to be something
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  Speaker 3: he was going to focus on. Then he brought an
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  Speaker 3: Elon Musk and Doge. Well, they're not done. In fact,
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  Speaker 3: apparently they're just getting started. Now. Jeddie Vance is now
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  Speaker 3: leading the Trump Administration's anti fraud crackdown, and we've got
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  Speaker 3: major new developments, including the fact that Vance now says
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  Speaker 3: the administration's Fraud Task Force has found already one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and eighty six one thousand plus dead people allegedly still
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  Speaker 3: receiving Snap food stamp benefits. Now, to be clear, we
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  Speaker 3: can't crawl back this money. These funds are being stolen,
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  Speaker 3: and they're being used by people that are clearly not
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  Speaker 3: dead but alive, and they're using dead people's identity to
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  Speaker 3: get the funds. Now, that obviously should make you angry.
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  Speaker 3: And they're expecting to find more than the basically two
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  Speaker 3: hundred thousand dead people who are getting money every single
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  Speaker 3: month from you, the taxpayer. Now, the task force also
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  Speaker 3: says that more than four hundred thousand people were actually
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  Speaker 3: defying the government receiving duple kits Snap benefits at the
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  Speaker 3: same time, meaning that they had two applications that were
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  Speaker 3: approved double dipping, getting twice as much as they should
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  Speaker 3: normally get. Now, if you are double dipping, shouldn't you
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  Speaker 3: go to jail? Shouldn't you lose SNAP benefits indefinitely? Shouldn't
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  Speaker 3: there be a major consequence for stealing from the US government? Well,
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  Speaker 3: right now, apparently there's not much of a deterrent at all.
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  Speaker 3: Now the White House is trying to change that, framing
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  Speaker 3: this is a massive taxpayer accountability effort. They're also arguing
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  Speaker 3: that Americans are tired of seeing waste, fraud, and abuse
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  Speaker 3: in all of our federal programs. Now, the Vice President
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  Speaker 3: has now called the finding of fraud in the federal
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  Speaker 3: government like fishing in a barrel with dynamite. The administration
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  Speaker 3: is now escalating beyond rhetoric. They are now threatening as
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  Speaker 3: well to withhold Medicaid funding from states that failed to
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  Speaker 3: aggressively investigate fraud. The biggest move came and involved California,
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  Speaker 3: where the Trump administration has now deferred roughly one point
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  Speaker 3: three billion in Medicaid reimbursements amid massive allegations of widespread
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  Speaker 3: fraud in hospice and home health care program Just how
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  Speaker 3: bad is it? Doctor Oz explaining it from Washington as
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  Speaker 3: they announced the new program initiative.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, we have a reality there again. We got to
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  Speaker 1: face a third of all hospices, a third of all
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  Speaker 1: these programs in the entire country are in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 1: Ask yourself, how is that possible? It's not. They're not
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  Speaker 1: that many people dying in Los Angeles. We're not talking
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  Speaker 1: about California, just Los Angeles. So Kim and the team
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  Speaker 1: on what Genina will go and a bunch of other
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  Speaker 1: great folks went through the list of all the people
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  Speaker 1: and we believe that at least half of the hospices
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  Speaker 1: in the entire area around Los Angeles are fraudulent. And
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  Speaker 1: today we announced eight hundred of those hospices have been suspended.
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  Speaker 1: That's getting us close to where we think we should be.
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  Speaker 1: Eight hundred hospices that last year charged the federal taxpayer
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  Speaker 1: one point four billion dollars will no longer be paid.
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  Speaker 1: Mister Vice President, if your core business was shut down
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  Speaker 1: by the federal government, would you call You would call crickets.
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  Speaker 1: We have less than twenty who have complained. We're not
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  Speaker 1: even sure there's are legitimate eight hundred hospices shut down,
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  Speaker 1: and we're not hearing much. It's it's crickets out there,
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  Speaker 1: so we believed we're on the right path. Here next
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  Speaker 1: is a ninetion wide moratorium on all new hospice and
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  Speaker 1: home health care. Why is that possible because when we
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  Speaker 1: squeeze the balloon in California and slow their growth of
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  Speaker 1: hospice and now take away eight hundred the payments, eight
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  Speaker 1: hundred hospices, we know what those frosters do. They move
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  Speaker 1: to nearby Nevada. Next door Nevada has a sevenfold increase
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  Speaker 1: in hospice already, Arizona, Texas. They're moving across the country.
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  Speaker 1: So we've today announcing a moratorium nationally. There will be
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  Speaker 1: no new hospices our home healthcare open in this country.
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  Speaker 1: If you have the program now, you can keep it.
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  Speaker 1: You can go to ones that already exist. We're not
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  Speaker 1: taking away any services, but there will be no new
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  Speaker 1: ones licenses granted until we can figure out a better
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  Speaker 1: way of working cross government.
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  Speaker 3: One of the most interesting things you just heard there
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  Speaker 3: from doctor Oz the fact that he said we're shutting
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  Speaker 3: it down nationwide because we know that when they get
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  Speaker 3: busted in LA, when they get busted in California, the
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  Speaker 3: people that are coming to the fraud, they just go
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  Speaker 3: to another state and they open up there. Now, Republicans,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, are arguing, this is exactly what voters
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  Speaker 3: voted for, what they wanted. Someone finally going through federal
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  Speaker 3: programs line by line, asking where taxpayer money is actually going,
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  Speaker 3: and we're finding out just how much fraud there is. Democrats, however,
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  Speaker 3: are losing their minds right now, warning the administration is overreaching,
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  Speaker 3: going to make mistakes and rushing investigations and then people
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  Speaker 3: are going to get hurt. Now, the question is where
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  Speaker 3: are the American people on this issue. Well, politically, this
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  Speaker 3: is clearly a winning issue for Republicans because in new polling,
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  Speaker 3: overwhelmingly the majority of Americans agree that fraud should be
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  Speaker 3: rooted out, regardless of the party who's in charge. Now.
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  Speaker 3: Vance is also trying to find more fraud directly time
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  Speaker 3: and also to border security and government spending, arguing Americans
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't be asked to pay more taxes while billions may
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  Speaker 3: be lost through abuse and corruption, Dead people shouldn't be
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  Speaker 3: getting food stamps, and the American people agree with that statement.
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  Speaker 3: Taxpayers are finally asking where the money actually went, and
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  Speaker 3: there should be people to go to jail. This is
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  Speaker 3: clearly a war on fraud, waste, and abuse from the
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  Speaker 3: Trump administration. And the reality is Washington ignored this for years.
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  Speaker 3: Why because many of the people that were getting the
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  Speaker 3: money were giving kickbacks to the political campaigns of those
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  Speaker 3: that look the other way, and that would be the
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  Speaker 3: Democratic Party. Thank goodness, Jadie Vance's betting Americans care more
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  Speaker 3: about protecting taxpayer dollars than protecting bureaucracies, and politically, that
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  Speaker 3: might be an extremely smart move ahead of the midterms.
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  Speaker 2: Now, story number two.
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  Speaker 3: CIA whistle blower went before Capitol Hill yesterday reveal that
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  Speaker 3: despite a majority of CIA scientists concluding overwhelmingly that COVID
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  Speaker 3: leaked from a lab in Wuhan, Anthony Fauci was able
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  Speaker 3: to convince high ranking Intel officials to change their assessment
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  Speaker 3: from a lab leak to a neutral idea. Why because
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  Speaker 3: they need to cover up the narrative that the Wuhan
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  Speaker 3: instead of virology, which was tied directly to Anthony Fauci,
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  Speaker 3: was actually involved. What's even more shocking than that is
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  Speaker 3: the CIA whosle blower also said that the CIA is
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  Speaker 3: still blocking full declassification of COVID documents. Why is it
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  Speaker 3: to protect Fauci or is it to protect China. I
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  Speaker 3: want you to hear the back and forth from Senator
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  Speaker 3: Rand Paul and the CIA whistleblower explaining exactly just how
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  Speaker 3: bad it really is.
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  Speaker 4: But what I think is is of importance that's new
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  Speaker 4: today is that your testimony is that the CIA scientists
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  Speaker 4: were concluding that it was lab. But then with this,
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  Speaker 4: there was a ninety day study in twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 4: and this study was done by NIC, led by NIC
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  Speaker 4: tell Us. What NIC is again, it's the National Intelligence
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  Speaker 4: Council and individuals responsible for writing various WMD and bio
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  Speaker 4: related issues to it. So when they had this study,
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  Speaker 4: they had CIA scientists telling them, look the evidence, the
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  Speaker 4: scientific evidence looks like it came from the lab. But
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  Speaker 4: then they brought in Anthony Fauci. And is it your
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  Speaker 4: opinion that Anthony Fauci was able to overrule the scientist
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  Speaker 4: or get NIC to conclude somehow that there wasn't a
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  Speaker 4: conclusion to be out here, We're going to be neutral,
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  Speaker 4: contradicting what the scientists were telling them.
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  Speaker 5: So there's two questions there, and I want to break
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  Speaker 5: them up into two. One is where were the injection points?
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  Speaker 5: Doctor Anthony Fauch. Where did Anthony Fauci and when did
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  Speaker 5: he inject himself into the IC and the other half
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  Speaker 5: of that question, if i'm, if I'm and I don't
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  Speaker 5: want to extrapolate too much. Here is okay what happened
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  Speaker 5: with with why was there a change in analysis? So
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  Speaker 5: I'll start with the if it's okay, doctor Paul, sure, Senator,
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  Speaker 5: I'll start with doctor Anthony Fauci. There were two instances,
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  Speaker 5: on three February twenty twenty and four June twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 5: Anthony Fauci had contact with the Inner Agency, And how
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  Speaker 5: to sort of broadly generalize this is that that contact
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  Speaker 5: was happily pursued within the IC. They wanted that contact,
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  Speaker 5: and he provided a curated list of subject matter experts,
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  Speaker 5: which coincidentally wrote The Proximal Origin of SARS Cove two.
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  Speaker 5: So it's it's not like he came in and said
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  Speaker 5: you have to do X, Y and Z provided recommendations.
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  Speaker 5: It's when you look at when you look at what
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  Speaker 5: has already been publicly released about doctor Fauci and then
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  Speaker 5: what you're seeing under the curtain at the IC, where
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  Speaker 5: you realize, okay, there is a narrative that was being
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  Speaker 5: generated by his contact not just with experts here in
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  Speaker 5: the United States, but experts in Australia and the UK.
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  Speaker 5: And that's the public facing piece. And you know, he
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  Speaker 5: tries to he had tried to sort of keep his
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  Speaker 5: hands clear of I didn't have anything to do with
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  Speaker 5: the proximal origin of Saraskov too. But in the meantime
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  Speaker 5: he's pushing those authors and individuals that have been in
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  Speaker 5: his orbit into the IC as experts. And I'll jump
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  Speaker 5: to June twenty twenty one. We as the IC at
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  Speaker 5: the neck happily pursued those recommendations, and in one email,
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  Speaker 5: which I'll describe to you, the person in charge of
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  Speaker 5: leading the ninety day study, you know, he introduced himself
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  Speaker 5: to the community that on they on what they were
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  Speaker 5: supposed to be doing, and then the community said, he said, listen,
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  Speaker 5: we've got these people we should be talking to. And
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  Speaker 5: another very senior NICK officer sent in direct email to
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  Speaker 5: him saying, Hey, considering that doctor Fauci is a public
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  Speaker 5: health expert, are you sure we should be relying on this?
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  Speaker 5: Shouldn't we shouldn't we have a separate set And in
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  Speaker 5: this instance, the individual responded, No, in this case, doctor
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  Speaker 5: Anthony Fauci is a subject matter expert. However, that's directly
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  Speaker 5: contradicting his public testimony of being a subject matter.
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  Speaker 4: Part of the job in intelligence when you interview someone
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  Speaker 4: is assessing their truthfulness, their potential biases or conflicts of interest.
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  Speaker 4: Did anyone ever bring up that Anthony Fauci approved the
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  Speaker 4: research that went on to Wuhan and that it might
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  Speaker 4: not be in his interest for the conclusion to be
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  Speaker 4: that it came from a lab that he had funded,
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  Speaker 4: that there might be a conflict that was Did any
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  Speaker 4: everybody ever bring up that he might might not be
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  Speaker 4: an objective witness?
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  Speaker 5: That was one example of an email. No one laid
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  Speaker 5: it out quite that clearly, you're piecing it together. We
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  Speaker 5: were piecing it together from multiple emails, from multiple agencies,
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  Speaker 5: multiple documents. It was more subtle than that. Nobody said
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  Speaker 5: this is happening, and unfortunately, I think they probably should have.
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  Speaker 5: It was all out there.
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  Speaker 4: But your conclusion is that changing from the scientific consensus
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  Speaker 4: of it being from a lab to a neutral position
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  Speaker 4: by the CIA was significantly influenced by Anthony Fauci.
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  Speaker 5: It was significantly influenced by Anthony Fauci's injecting himself into
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  Speaker 5: the IC. And to go to the second part of
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  Speaker 5: your question about what happened particularly during the ninety day study,
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  Speaker 5: we have documentation that shows that as of August twelfth,
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  Speaker 5: the CIA was considering calling this a lab leak August
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  Speaker 5: twelfth of twenty twenty one, and then that changed on
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  Speaker 5: August seventeenth of twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 3: Run now, what's even more shocking about the hearing and
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  Speaker 3: what you just heard. There is not a single Democrat
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  Speaker 3: heard any of what you just heard. Why because apparently
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  Speaker 3: not a single Democrat showed up to the Senate hearing
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  Speaker 3: today where the CIA whistle blower was testifying about the
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  Speaker 3: COVID cover up. Could it be maybe because they were
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  Speaker 3: all involved in it too. Listen now, Fox News explain
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  Speaker 3: no Democrats in attendance.
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  Speaker 6: In this picture because just a few minutes ago, just
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  Speaker 6: shy of the top of the hour, you could see
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  Speaker 6: over the left shoulder of Senator Ron Johnson the empty
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  Speaker 6: seats of Democrats and we can show, I mean, look
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  Speaker 6: at that room, and even James Erdman, who is the
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  Speaker 6: whistleblower witness today was asked about and I believe it
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  Speaker 6: was Senator Yes Bernie Moreno, who asked him this, how
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  Speaker 6: does that make you feel knowing that those Democrats aren't there?
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  Speaker 6: And he says that, of course I wish that they were.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you want everyone to know what he has
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  Speaker 6: to say.
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  Speaker 3: It really is amazing to know that you have a
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  Speaker 3: CIA whistleblower coming forward on the issue of COVID. It
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  Speaker 3: involves Anthony Fauci, Democrats, God, and none of the Democrats
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  Speaker 3: will show up to hear what the wistleblower has to say.
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  Speaker 3: There should be massive accountability for that, and also a
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  Speaker 3: lot more questions that should be asked of Democratic lawmakers
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  Speaker 3: of why you didn't show up.
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