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- 0:04Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she
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- 0:30Speaker 1: Welcome to my show, money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your
- 0:33Speaker 1: host with Sean McDonald. I recognized that we all have
- 0:35Speaker 1: different definitions of success. For you, it may be the
- 0:38Speaker 1: size of your paycheck. Mine has inspired people to develop
- 0:41Speaker 1: a plan to reach their dreams. It's time to stop
- 0:44Speaker 1: reading other people's success stories and start writing your own.
- 0:47Speaker 1: You can only exceed the expectation by believing in yourself.
- 0:50Speaker 1: People always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you
- 0:52Speaker 1: have a gift, leave with your gifts and don't let
- 0:54Speaker 1: your friends, family, or co workers stop you from planning
- 0:57Speaker 1: or living your dreams. My guess is Scott Alvestra Black.
- 1:01Speaker 1: He's one of Hollywood's most exciting rising stars of today.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Sky returns his leading man app addiction Anthony on Tyler
- 1:08Speaker 1: peers Smashing and I say smash shit male exotic dancer
- 1:11Speaker 1: drama series All the Queen's Men. This season two is up.
- 1:15Speaker 1: I was so mad with season two ended. We're talking
- 1:17Speaker 1: about that. I said, you gotta renew this and they
- 1:21Speaker 1: hurt my prayer. Season two is currently airing on BT Plus.
- 1:25Speaker 1: The show follows Madame de Ville de ville Or, starring
- 1:29Speaker 1: the incredible even Myself. She's a fierce businesswoman at the
- 1:34Speaker 1: top of her game in the Atlanta nightclub industry who
- 1:36Speaker 1: won't let anyone and I repeat anyone standing away as
- 1:40Speaker 1: she reigns over a crowd of loyal male dancers. Sky
- 1:44Speaker 1: is a scene stealer as Madame's nephew, an employee who
- 1:48Speaker 1: evolves in an exciting and lecture trying seasons two. I've
- 1:51Speaker 1: seen the first sixth episode. It's really they slowly developed
- 1:54Speaker 1: its character because it's really getting into some relationships. Not
- 1:57Speaker 1: gonna reveal too much because like I said, they're streaming
- 1:59Speaker 1: right now on BT Plus. If you don't have subscription
- 2:02Speaker 1: slide on in and sign up because this series is
- 2:04Speaker 1: definitely one worth worth seeing on a regulation and putting
- 2:08Speaker 1: it in your and just tell everybody and in real life,
- 2:12Speaker 1: my man Sky also holds a strong passion for producing.
- 2:15Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that as well as advocate advocating
- 2:18Speaker 1: for the homeless and impoverished. He's on the show to
- 2:21Speaker 1: tell his story. Please work with the money making conversations,
- 2:23Speaker 1: Masterclass Sky, Alvesta Black, How you doing, sir, hey Man,
- 2:27Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me with with an
- 2:29Speaker 1: introduction like, well, you know, I had to drop two
- 2:33Speaker 1: personal things in there because you know I have a
- 2:36Speaker 1: relationship with you when you came on the first time,
- 2:38Speaker 1: you know, we was the way. Thank you, thank you.
- 2:42Speaker 1: I'm happy to have you took the time because you know,
- 2:45Speaker 1: you know I learned about your dancing career, you were
- 2:48Speaker 1: acting and not before we really get into the whole
- 2:50Speaker 1: conversation about all the Queens of Men is why I
- 2:53Speaker 1: brought you on the show. But you're doing more producing now,
- 2:56Speaker 1: can we talk about that a little bit before we
- 2:58Speaker 1: get into the series, because that gives you a different
- 3:00Speaker 1: eye as an actor when you're doing series, especially with
- 3:04Speaker 1: a mega producer like Tyler Perry completely um. So yes,
- 3:10Speaker 1: I am making a huge foray into producing. I just
- 3:15Speaker 1: finished producing an international feature in Haiti and and also Miami,
- 3:21Speaker 1: So that was my first feature film that I was
- 3:25Speaker 1: not only sorry and I was also exactly producing. And
- 3:28Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I got the above man. I loved
- 3:31Speaker 1: the development of being on the ground making this story,
- 3:37Speaker 1: making stories not just this particular story, but stories happen
- 3:42Speaker 1: and understanding and it creates as an actor, creates a
- 3:46Speaker 1: better world for you because you've been there from the beginning,
- 3:49Speaker 1: so you're invested. You're invested, um even more so in
- 3:53Speaker 1: the script because it's kind of like your baby. You've
- 3:56Speaker 1: you've gone out, you've seen the locations, you've created this world.
- 4:00Speaker 1: Do you know what you wanted to feel like? You
- 4:02Speaker 1: have other creatives with like the director and everything. So
- 4:06Speaker 1: I just felt that in this time, I'll be honest,
- 4:11Speaker 1: God is my number one. So that's the direction I've
- 4:14Speaker 1: been pushed in addition to being privileged enough to be
- 4:17Speaker 1: a leading man, and I have this like burning fire
- 4:21Speaker 1: and and now I have I think four or five
- 4:24Speaker 1: projects on my slaves, like is it all film? Is
- 4:27Speaker 1: it any of the television docuseries, What are the genres
- 4:31Speaker 1: one docuseries and the rest of his film? Okay, about
- 4:35Speaker 1: four films on my slate right now, and what is
- 4:38Speaker 1: the window production you usually do with your movie? Six weeks?
- 4:41Speaker 1: Two months? What is it? Uh? Ninety days? What are
- 4:44Speaker 1: the windows of production? So I will say the first
- 4:48Speaker 1: on the last one, I can only speak to the
- 4:49Speaker 1: last one. It was about a month. It was about
- 4:52Speaker 1: a month, and I was in a developing country, and
- 4:56Speaker 1: when you're in when you're in Haiti, there's a lot
- 4:58Speaker 1: of options that we actually had to face. And I
- 5:02Speaker 1: love that challenge of that being my first because it
- 5:06Speaker 1: really pushed me beyond my limits. I mean, we're in
- 5:09Speaker 1: a developing country where there's no power. Everything is running
- 5:12Speaker 1: off the generators. Um. We did, how have a lot
- 5:16Speaker 1: of the We did have American crew and hanition crew.
- 5:19Speaker 1: So it forced me to even learn the language. I'm
- 5:22Speaker 1: an advocate for not going into somebody else's house and
- 5:26Speaker 1: expecting them to acqui as to you in your ways.
- 5:29Speaker 1: But when you go in their house, you ask what
- 5:31Speaker 1: are their rules? What are their regulations? So I was
- 5:34Speaker 1: learning UM, I was learning the language. I was out
- 5:37Speaker 1: there with the natives and it was an awesome experience,
- 5:43Speaker 1: and as a producer it was I would say it
- 5:45Speaker 1: was one of the more challenging experiences because, like again
- 5:49Speaker 1: I echo, it was a developing country. So just imagine
- 5:53Speaker 1: when you're filming and the cold countries running up for generators.
- 5:57Speaker 1: And so it took at their issues in America filming
- 6:02Speaker 1: and production. Did you're gonna run the hiccups that you're
- 6:05Speaker 1: gonna run into? So walking into a foreign country where
- 6:08Speaker 1: you have electricity is limited, battery packs is limited, the
- 6:12Speaker 1: type of experienced crew, experienced crew will be lated, so
- 6:16Speaker 1: and and as also transportation can also be limited as well.
- 6:21Speaker 1: And so when you like that, I was speaking to
- 6:22Speaker 1: the sky a Vesta Black, one of the stars of
- 6:25Speaker 1: all the Queens Men, which is a smash hit by
- 6:27Speaker 1: Tyler Perry. What what Tyler Perry doesn't do that? It's
- 6:30Speaker 1: not a smash shit But again, as the gifts to
- 6:33Speaker 1: God Giving, this series is directed by him, executive produced
- 6:36Speaker 1: by him, and it's airing right now and b T plus.
- 6:39Speaker 1: Now I can relate to what you're saying. I started
- 6:42Speaker 1: my career by the reason mathematics and sociology, and I
- 6:46Speaker 1: let my IBM to pursue a career as a stand
- 6:48Speaker 1: up comedian, and I was very successful standing did the
- 6:51Speaker 1: deaf comedy jams all that, very successful and um, but
- 6:54Speaker 1: when I started writing and I started producing, I felt
- 6:57Speaker 1: I had more control of the creator and if it
- 7:01Speaker 1: came more of a team effort, because as an actor,
- 7:03Speaker 1: a lot of times you just giving lines and you're directed,
- 7:06Speaker 1: and so you don't really participate in the overall project.
- 7:10Speaker 1: As a producer, you you have never seen, okay, because
- 7:14Speaker 1: you gotta be wherever ever seen. Because sometimes I can
- 7:17Speaker 1: have in this scene before the scene started, right because
- 7:19Speaker 1: sometime I could have asked actors and say, oh, well,
- 7:22Speaker 1: I don't I reached at that movie. I was in
- 7:25Speaker 1: no famous with that person or I was no scenes
- 7:27Speaker 1: with that person, you know. And so but there's as
- 7:29Speaker 1: a producer, that's the engagement part that you have. You
- 7:34Speaker 1: are in everything from budget talking about the camera, Yeah, exactly,
- 7:39Speaker 1: even when I'm not on camera, I'm a I'm at
- 7:42Speaker 1: I'm in video village. And it also like it's helped
- 7:46Speaker 1: me be such a better actor because I learned I
- 7:50Speaker 1: would say, I honestly not just the craft of acting,
- 7:54Speaker 1: the art of storytelling. And that's that when you start
- 7:58Speaker 1: to tell that story as an actor and me being
- 8:01Speaker 1: able to sit behind the London and say, hey, let's
- 8:04Speaker 1: this came through on camera? Can we get this and
- 8:07Speaker 1: we have to make our days or and and everything
- 8:09Speaker 1: like that. All the logistics that happened. And I would
- 8:12Speaker 1: be remissed if I did not um D J. Lewis,
- 8:17Speaker 1: who's the writer and other executi producer on the film
- 8:21Speaker 1: Haitian Way, and let I just finished. He he's Haitian
- 8:25Speaker 1: and he made all the logistics just extremely possible and
- 8:29Speaker 1: as seamless as you could think to be over in
- 8:32Speaker 1: Haiti at this point in time. And I just want
- 8:35Speaker 1: to say, and I'll wrap it up by saying this,
- 8:38Speaker 1: we have such a misconception as a people in America
- 8:42Speaker 1: of what Haiti is. It's absolutely beautiful, absolutely beautiful. I
- 8:49Speaker 1: learned so much about the culture, the people, and I
- 8:52Speaker 1: was extremely inspired once I was, once I left, and
- 8:56Speaker 1: while I was there. So that's another thing I felt.
- 8:59Speaker 1: I at it to being a producer. You have to
- 9:01Speaker 1: be open to learning right along the way because not
- 9:04Speaker 1: everything is gonna go at your plan, not every project
- 9:06Speaker 1: is going to be the same. You have to be valuable, flexible,
- 9:09Speaker 1: and I love the process talk about how you got
- 9:14Speaker 1: the how the casting up. I know you've done other
- 9:16Speaker 1: projects for Tyler Perry, like Sisters, but still it's your talent.
- 9:19Speaker 1: You know a lot of people people Tyler just don't
- 9:21Speaker 1: hand you stuff because he like you. That's the skills
- 9:23Speaker 1: that you come. Talk about how this opportunity that came
- 9:26Speaker 1: to you. And then because it is over the top,
- 9:30Speaker 1: because Eva's character is bold is it is like it
- 9:34Speaker 1: is almost cartoonist. But I say that in a very
- 9:37Speaker 1: entertaining way, because sometimes you need to just step into
- 9:40Speaker 1: a world, just let all all reality go. That's what
- 9:43Speaker 1: this show is about. But it is tied to real
- 9:46Speaker 1: people and the emotional things that are relatable. Tell us
- 9:49Speaker 1: about it. Um, it's interesting. I actually audition for All
- 9:55Speaker 1: kans Men. Prior to all this persistence, I was also
- 9:58Speaker 1: um I played Sisters that I'm sorry I was answer
- 10:01Speaker 1: as I played Jakobe that was on the bank, and
- 10:05Speaker 1: I was just thankful to get a job as working actor,
- 10:09Speaker 1: you know. I mean before I was parking cars, man,
- 10:12Speaker 1: I was really parking cars from seven to him the
- 10:14Speaker 1: three thirty in the morning, just trying to um, support
- 10:19Speaker 1: myself and follow my dreams. So in the daytime about
- 10:23Speaker 1: audition at night? I UM, at night I would work,
- 10:27Speaker 1: jumped to Sisters came, the audition came. I did the audition,
- 10:32Speaker 1: by the grace of God, found out I booked it,
- 10:34Speaker 1: went there and just delved into work. Now we get home,
- 10:38Speaker 1: Sisters is over, and I get a call from my
- 10:40Speaker 1: agent like, hey, you just got the leading talented new
- 10:43Speaker 1: show all the clues men. Honestly, I cried. I got
- 10:49Speaker 1: on my knees. I thank God in this order, and
- 10:51Speaker 1: I called my grandmother and said, hey, you don't have
- 10:53Speaker 1: to work anymore. And but the process, I had no idea. Yeah,
- 11:00Speaker 1: like I said, I auditioned for all the Queens, mean
- 11:03Speaker 1: months and months before audition assistance. I forgot about the audition,
- 11:07Speaker 1: and I had no idea that I was already cast it.
- 11:10Speaker 1: Our wonderful creator and writer. I have to um give
- 11:14Speaker 1: Christian Keys his comments because without Christian Keys, there would
- 11:17Speaker 1: be no his Man to derived from his book Ladies
- 11:20Speaker 1: to Night, and Christian actually put the time and ever
- 11:23Speaker 1: talking about a producer and developer for ten years ago
- 11:27Speaker 1: from the book. So the character that Christian wrote was
- 11:32Speaker 1: Christian was doing, was was going to play m and
- 11:35Speaker 1: at this time Christian really really wanted to tell the
- 11:38Speaker 1: story as authentically to his business possible, and he took
- 11:43Speaker 1: a more of a step back to be in a
- 11:45Speaker 1: producing aspect and executive producing, executive producing, executive producer. Yes,
- 11:53Speaker 1: and Christian casting me. Christian actually casted me. And because
- 11:59Speaker 1: I don't know, I think I was possibly going to
- 12:02Speaker 1: be on Sisters more and and it actually was that
- 12:04Speaker 1: was the case because they had to round out my
- 12:06Speaker 1: character for season three. So doing the audition for All
- 12:10Speaker 1: the Queen's Men, it was one of those things where
- 12:14Speaker 1: he just sees you see the scene and scene that
- 12:18Speaker 1: I actually had the audition for. It was from season one.
- 12:20Speaker 1: If you guys have seen season one, it's when I
- 12:22Speaker 1: get out of the actually prison and my aunt is
- 12:25Speaker 1: there for the first time. And the scene where I
- 12:29Speaker 1: go back to my fiance, sorry my girlfriend at the time,
- 12:33Speaker 1: my girlfriend that I killed. I go back to my
- 12:35Speaker 1: mom's house and the gunnis to my head. Those are
- 12:38Speaker 1: my two auditions scenes. And there was something about it
- 12:40Speaker 1: that just clicked when I when I auditioned, I said
- 12:43Speaker 1: in a self tape, didn't hear anything for like three
- 12:45Speaker 1: or four months, nothing, And I said, Okay, this is
- 12:47Speaker 1: one of those auditions and here we go. We'll be
- 12:50Speaker 1: right back with more money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now,
- 12:58Speaker 1: let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald.
- 13:03Speaker 1: You lead of an incredible series that is of the characters.
- 13:07Speaker 1: Of course, we talked about Eva's characters. She pleas mad. Damn,
- 13:10Speaker 1: you don't say ma'am, you say lady, You said me Damn, Okay,
- 13:16Speaker 1: my boy blew on there. Damn. That's he's developing a
- 13:19Speaker 1: relationship with a character called Damn. I'm saying Sky's character
- 13:22Speaker 1: who plays ample on the show. Do you have male dancers?
- 13:25Speaker 1: Doc Phase way ago Midnight? And then then you're a fan.
- 13:30Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Hey Scott, I would
- 13:36Speaker 1: not have you on this show, brother lying to you man.
- 13:40Speaker 1: And then my favorite character is Tommy my man and
- 13:43Speaker 1: I'm Cookies my man. Is I'm cookies? Yes? Yes. Tommy's
- 13:49Speaker 1: character is absolutely hilarious. Um yeah, he's His character is
- 13:53Speaker 1: so funny. It's it's the commedic relead to the show.
- 13:58Speaker 1: The thing that I can say about this season the most.
- 14:01Speaker 1: And I had to discover a lot of Whoemp is
- 14:04Speaker 1: this season because without revealing too much. I will say this,
- 14:09Speaker 1: and I've been saying this, you will really find out
- 14:12Speaker 1: why and Madam are related. Apps. Arc is ridiculous this
- 14:21Speaker 1: season and it was so fun to play because it's
- 14:26Speaker 1: it's it's night and day. So everything you think MP
- 14:29Speaker 1: is just watching them fold. Oh, I am watching it.
- 14:33Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm in the middle of my episode
- 14:35Speaker 1: six of this season two and and it's twenty episodes
- 14:40Speaker 1: this season. We have twenty episodes this season. Boy, I
- 14:43Speaker 1: got there's a wider arc. I love it. I'm loving
- 14:46Speaker 1: I love because I'm not gonna miss any of it.
- 14:48Speaker 1: Like I said, the first season, I believe was ten.
- 14:50Speaker 1: I believe it was ten the first season. And like
- 14:53Speaker 1: I said, when the end of that dramatic moment, I
- 14:55Speaker 1: was like, you got to be kidding me. It came back.
- 14:58Speaker 1: Now Tyler has done me right the episodes. But let's
- 15:01Speaker 1: talk about the whole relationships. Like said, when you do
- 15:04Speaker 1: these series, you know you could say I'm doing the
- 15:07Speaker 1: show what over over the characters. She's a tough woman,
- 15:11Speaker 1: and we have these male dancers, so you're selling sex
- 15:13Speaker 1: and good lifting guys in shape, so you're trying to
- 15:16Speaker 1: seek that male demo and all that female demo, excuse me.
- 15:20Speaker 1: And so when all that comes about, it's the story
- 15:23Speaker 1: and the characters talk about your character and your relationship
- 15:27Speaker 1: that you're developing with dime this season. So this season
- 15:31Speaker 1: with dime um and also where you see Am from
- 15:35Speaker 1: the beginning, you see this beautiful budding relationships and you
- 15:42Speaker 1: see the love and and and I mean, Diamond is
- 15:45Speaker 1: that soft spot for them, just like Amp is that
- 15:48Speaker 1: soft spot from Adam. However, it's it's how do I
- 15:55Speaker 1: say this, uh, expect to unexpecting what happened? Yes, and
- 16:02Speaker 1: and and you and you. All these men's are crime drama,
- 16:06Speaker 1: and I think once people realize that, a lot of
- 16:08Speaker 1: times people saw us as all this stripper show, this
- 16:11Speaker 1: male strip show, this guy's male stripper show. But it's
- 16:14Speaker 1: not that it's actually a crime drama, and it's about
- 16:17Speaker 1: the relationships of what society would consider consider social misfits
- 16:24Speaker 1: and how they're navigating this world but also being there
- 16:27Speaker 1: for each other, but also going through real life circumstances
- 16:31Speaker 1: that really actually happened in the world of male exotic dancing.
- 16:36Speaker 1: I mean, if you hear some of the stories that
- 16:39Speaker 1: the guys that I got to sit down with each
- 16:41Speaker 1: of the guys, and I really wanted to immerse myself
- 16:43Speaker 1: in this world. And I take it granted that's just
- 16:45Speaker 1: another role. Say tell me everything, tell me what happens,
- 16:48Speaker 1: tell me, tell me your past, tell me. And I
- 16:51Speaker 1: had these moments which each of these guys, and a
- 16:54Speaker 1: lot of these stories aren't too fabricated when you when
- 16:58Speaker 1: you actually live that world, in that life on TV,
- 17:03Speaker 1: it seems larger than life. But so many stories that
- 17:06Speaker 1: I've heard that these brothers have gone through, um, it's authentic.
- 17:11Speaker 1: I'm speaking to sky elst the Black. He's under the
- 17:14Speaker 1: stars of the new I said something new. Second season,
- 17:17Speaker 1: in twenty episodes. This season, everybody, all the queensman, it's
- 17:21Speaker 1: started incredible, even myself. She starts this, she's she's the woman,
- 17:26Speaker 1: the word boss lady. She is truly the boss lady.
- 17:29Speaker 1: To kill a lady, the tough lady. I'm gonna tell you,
- 17:32Speaker 1: get out my face lady. She don't care if she's
- 17:36Speaker 1: then she cared. So I want to say something. You
- 17:40Speaker 1: said it was a crime drama, but let me put
- 17:41Speaker 1: some on top of that. It's a family show. And
- 17:45Speaker 1: that's why I'm engaged. When you still empower the power series,
- 17:50Speaker 1: it was about family. Well, if you look at any
- 17:52Speaker 1: of the Fast and Furious shows movies, it's about family.
- 17:57Speaker 1: And so when you look at this series, always remember that,
- 18:00Speaker 1: you know, Dock and Blue family Fuego, it's been in
- 18:04Speaker 1: a lot of time trying to get this family, keep
- 18:06Speaker 1: this family together. And then in the first season, he's
- 18:09Speaker 1: basically an outside character. But this season he's more engaged
- 18:13Speaker 1: and you find out more about his character. What the
- 18:15Speaker 1: thing I love about this season the guys that because
- 18:18Speaker 1: there's twenty episodes, the characters don't feel rushed and I'm
- 18:22Speaker 1: getting more a backstory. I'm getting more a backstory. It
- 18:24Speaker 1: makes me more engaged and much more aware of the
- 18:28Speaker 1: next step and excited. And that's why, that's why I
- 18:31Speaker 1: wanted to say that the family's dynamic plays a major role.
- 18:35Speaker 1: It is a crime and it is violent, It is action,
- 18:38Speaker 1: it is dramatic. It is funny because Tommy is very
- 18:42Speaker 1: funny in this series. You know, you know, he's he's
- 18:46Speaker 1: he's a he's a who as they say back in
- 18:48Speaker 1: the day. But but but these are the characters that
- 18:51Speaker 1: make me enjoy the show. And this is what I'm
- 18:54Speaker 1: saying to you, is that the male dancers is part
- 18:56Speaker 1: of it, but I'm also more engaged about, you know,
- 18:59Speaker 1: the relationships about I love that you said that because
- 19:06Speaker 1: I always look for the universal message when I'm telling
- 19:09Speaker 1: the story. Yes, I'm a character that got out of
- 19:12Speaker 1: prison for nine years, and we delve into my backstory
- 19:15Speaker 1: and we actually see why he really went to prison.
- 19:18Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone has seen that episode yet
- 19:20Speaker 1: if you haven't seen, episode six really starts to show
- 19:25Speaker 1: amps backstory to why. And because first season really focused
- 19:29Speaker 1: on am being the audience member as far as bringing
- 19:31Speaker 1: you into this world and he you were looking at
- 19:34Speaker 1: this world through the eyes of them because you've never
- 19:37Speaker 1: seen this world before, as he hasn't. Now you're seeing,
- 19:40Speaker 1: like you just said, each character's back story. And when
- 19:44Speaker 1: you're telling stories, people like stories because there's a universal
- 19:48Speaker 1: element that they can also relate to. They may not
- 19:50Speaker 1: know what it is, but it's like, why do I
- 19:53Speaker 1: like this so much? But it is family and it's togetherness,
- 19:57Speaker 1: and it's how do we keep each other together there?
- 20:00Speaker 1: How do we love on each other in this miss
- 20:04Speaker 1: of this huge minuta of craziness. And I think that's
- 20:10Speaker 1: a lot of just relationships period, like families, paramount friends
- 20:14Speaker 1: are paramount. Support systems are extremely paramount in it and
- 20:18Speaker 1: on a US universal level, we can't do it alone,
- 20:22Speaker 1: even matter on on on on all the police men,
- 20:25Speaker 1: she can't do it alone, and she needs to have
- 20:28Speaker 1: asked her, Madam. And I always say even I have
- 20:33Speaker 1: the best time, because what we do we just get
- 20:36Speaker 1: on camera and we go. We don't rehearse before. We
- 20:40Speaker 1: have a great connection as Auntie and Nephew when we
- 20:44Speaker 1: get on and we explore. And I think Tyler so
- 20:48Speaker 1: much for allowing us to really have taking it upon
- 20:53Speaker 1: ourselves to develop these characters and actually listening to our thoughts.
- 20:57Speaker 1: And I also think the entire producing teams for saying, hey,
- 21:01Speaker 1: this season, we do want to tell them too why
- 21:04Speaker 1: these people are the way they are, and it makes
- 21:08Speaker 1: everybody interested. Well, i gonna tell you this guy. You know, uh,
- 21:12Speaker 1: this is just just just the opening scene for this
- 21:15Speaker 1: for this second season, and I'm not gonna tell y'all
- 21:19Speaker 1: in detail. Well, when Homeboard came out of the kitchen
- 21:22Speaker 1: with that giant butcher knife, I'm with y'all silly, Yeah,
- 21:28Speaker 1: y'all are silly. Y'all know y'all got smaller knives and
- 21:30Speaker 1: that kitchen and that well coming out that gives you
- 21:33Speaker 1: that JOBT Butcher knife to do what they had to
- 21:35Speaker 1: do surgically, but I man, yeah, I had to get
- 21:40Speaker 1: it up. Yeah, that's the funny part about it. But
- 21:41Speaker 1: I definitely want to close out the shore to talk
- 21:44Speaker 1: about your advocacy for homelessness and empoverished people because the
- 21:48Speaker 1: production was producing and eping and eventually directing, because that's
- 21:52Speaker 1: I see that in your future. And then incredible series
- 21:55Speaker 1: and the relationship you've had with Tyler and then being
- 21:58Speaker 1: blessed in the relationship with Christian key Ease with this
- 22:00Speaker 1: incredible book that was Ladies Night, which is now turned
- 22:03Speaker 1: into All the Queens Man is airing and streaming on
- 22:06Speaker 1: BT Plus. Why are the importance of advocating, of being
- 22:10Speaker 1: a voice for homelessness and then poverished? Man? I was homeless, simple,
- 22:15Speaker 1: I know a firsthand. I'm a kid that that's from
- 22:19Speaker 1: the South and from Miami, Florida. I'm from the real
- 22:21Speaker 1: Minami man. I'm from Carol City, which is now my regardens.
- 22:26Speaker 1: But I came on here to l A with the
- 22:29Speaker 1: dream and faith and God and a lot of people say, well,
- 22:35Speaker 1: what did you do? I worked my butt off. I
- 22:37Speaker 1: believe in I pray sounds pretty shared, but you know
- 22:41Speaker 1: when you're when you're in such a industry as the
- 22:45Speaker 1: entertainment industry, they're no guarantees and you have ups downas
- 22:49Speaker 1: pizza valleys, as you do with any industry or with
- 22:52Speaker 1: any in life. However, I was that kid. I was
- 22:56Speaker 1: that kid that was homeless, not once, but three times. Um.
- 23:01Speaker 1: I know what it's like to have a dream that
- 23:04Speaker 1: no one else believes it until it happens. I know
- 23:08Speaker 1: it's like to feel depression. I'm also a huge, huge
- 23:13Speaker 1: mental health advocate, especially especially it's something that we need
- 23:21Speaker 1: because we need to clear our minds. Without a clear mind,
- 23:24Speaker 1: you can't be effective in life. And so in addition
- 23:29Speaker 1: to being homeless, is depressed and homeless. And I live
- 23:32Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, man, I can look out my my
- 23:35Speaker 1: window right now, and yes I'm less, but I'm not
- 23:38Speaker 1: removed from circumstances, and the homeless could the homeless population
- 23:43Speaker 1: and loss astanceriticulates and and I just feel that there's
- 23:47Speaker 1: so much that can be done, but we don't look
- 23:51Speaker 1: at it. And and I with my platform, I want
- 23:55Speaker 1: to do as much as I can to look at
- 23:57Speaker 1: the humanistic qualities of just life and can better for
- 24:02Speaker 1: things that that's dear to me. I mean again, I
- 24:05Speaker 1: was in I slept in my car, I slept in
- 24:07Speaker 1: hotels six as I stepped on couches, I I this this,
- 24:11Speaker 1: this just happened. My life just reached and also with
- 24:16Speaker 1: it switching, I've learned the importance of mental health and
- 24:21Speaker 1: mental and therapy awareness of how to just navigate. Everybody
- 24:28Speaker 1: has gone through PTSD at some point. I mean, we
- 24:30Speaker 1: just came out of a pandemic, and now it seems
- 24:33Speaker 1: we're on the edge of other epidemics. Possibly so um.
- 24:39Speaker 1: I think as an artist it is essential to not
- 24:42Speaker 1: only live life, but to observe life and to really
- 24:46Speaker 1: have empathy for a lot of universal issues. Because if
- 24:53Speaker 1: you cannot be empathetic to without judgment, to another man's plight,
- 25:00Speaker 1: sorry about that. If you can't be if you can't
- 25:04Speaker 1: be empathetic to your fellow man and man, being woman, human,
- 25:11Speaker 1: if you can't be empathetic to their plight, you can't
- 25:13Speaker 1: be a great artist. And it's near and dear to me.
- 25:17Speaker 1: And there's a lot more I want to do in
- 25:20Speaker 1: that arena of m I want to go visit shelters.
- 25:23Speaker 1: I want to set up things, and it's one of
- 25:26Speaker 1: my company's mission statements to to really give back and
- 25:30Speaker 1: not just go there and drop on some turkeys Thanksgiving,
- 25:34Speaker 1: to really get back and see what can we do
- 25:37Speaker 1: that There has to be something that if all of
- 25:39Speaker 1: us are together, we could we could make some form
- 25:41Speaker 1: of effective change. Absolutely well, he's making effective change as
- 25:47Speaker 1: a producer, effective change as a homeless advocate for the
- 25:51Speaker 1: impoverished and disenfranchise, but more importantly as a fan as
- 25:55Speaker 1: a person in the entertained prison. You know, I always say,
- 25:59Speaker 1: you know he's younger than so hopefully I've knocked over
- 26:01Speaker 1: some doors and kicked over some boxes that he could
- 26:03Speaker 1: step in. And I know he's stepping in strong because
- 26:06Speaker 1: he got a great man behind him and Tyler Perry,
- 26:08Speaker 1: and he's another advocate in Christian Keys, who I think
- 26:11Speaker 1: is one of the star producers of our next generation
- 26:13Speaker 1: that's gonna pop out that lonely is he a talented writer,
- 26:16Speaker 1: but he's also a handsome guy, so they also helped
- 26:19Speaker 1: CHRISTI Okay, it looks good, but again, thank you for
- 26:22Speaker 1: covering those show this guy, I hope it was a
- 26:23Speaker 1: Joe O put this journey was better than the previous journey,
- 26:26Speaker 1: which I thought was very good. I always have a
- 26:28Speaker 1: great time with you, and thank you for having me
- 26:29Speaker 1: back in and just picked you back on what you said.
- 26:32Speaker 1: Thank you for everything that you've done in the entertainment industry.
- 26:35Speaker 1: Because you you had to walk so I can run.
- 26:38Speaker 1: So thank you for all your contributions and just knocking
- 26:42Speaker 1: down those doors. Man. It's always a great time here
- 26:44Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations. Thank you. Appreciate your brother, but talk soon. Man,
- 26:48Speaker 1: be safe now, Okay, thank you too. All right, If
- 26:51Speaker 1: you want to see you here any of these interviews,
- 26:53Speaker 1: please go to money Making Conversation dot com. I'm with
- 26:55Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I am your host. We'll be right back
- 26:58Speaker 1: with more money Making Converse Stations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald.
- 27:03Speaker 1: You are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute
- 27:07Speaker 1: of Inspiration with Rashan McDonald. Hi, I'm Rashan McDonald for
- 27:11Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with your daily minute of Inspiration
- 27:14Speaker 1: this week. I said. That was CEO and co founder
- 27:17Speaker 1: of Tyler New Media, home of traffic, sales and profit,
- 27:20Speaker 1: Lamar Taylor, as he shares the importance of separating the
- 27:23Speaker 1: nature of your hustle from the nature of your business.
- 27:26Speaker 1: A lot of times when people are being taught and
- 27:27Speaker 1: trained through social media, it's more about hustle than it
- 27:30Speaker 1: is about business, and it's about, hey, I can make
- 27:32Speaker 1: this like quick money, right, How I can you know,
- 27:34Speaker 1: do something real fast and flip this and flip that.
- 27:37Speaker 1: But we're trying to tell folks you need to build
- 27:38Speaker 1: something that's sustainable. You need to build something so that
- 27:41Speaker 1: guess what it works when you don't. In order to
- 27:43Speaker 1: do that, we need systems around it. We need processes
- 27:45Speaker 1: around we need people around it. Those are team and
- 27:48Speaker 1: staff that we might need to be able to implement
- 27:50Speaker 1: and do things better than we can. And too many
- 27:52Speaker 1: times when we don't have these different pieces of the
- 27:54Speaker 1: puzzle together, then we get caught. If you were to
- 27:57Speaker 1: listen to this full interview with Lamar Taylor, it's a
- 27:59Speaker 1: failor on Money Making Conversations dot Com. Now let's return
- 28:03Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. My next
- 28:08Speaker 1: guest is d G. Larrey. He's a multitalitied actor, writer,
- 28:12Speaker 1: and producer. He's the creator and executive producers, showrunner and
- 28:15Speaker 1: start on Bounce TVs. Comedy, I should say drama Johnson.
- 28:19Speaker 1: He plays the role of Gregg on the show We'll
- 28:22Speaker 1: Talk to Da g about his path when you say path,
- 28:25Speaker 1: from where he started to where he is today and
- 28:28Speaker 1: how he knew as a young age. Always I was
- 28:30Speaker 1: always amazing when people know at a young age what
- 28:33Speaker 1: they want to be, because I struggled with that. I
- 28:35Speaker 1: always tell people I didn't know who I wanted to
- 28:37Speaker 1: be until I was in my forties, despite all my success,
- 28:41Speaker 1: So I always admire people who get it and then
- 28:43Speaker 1: stick with it. What inspired him to know his path
- 28:45Speaker 1: at such a young age and for performing on barbwee
- 28:49Speaker 1: to his college studies to create his own show? What
- 28:51Speaker 1: has been some of the important tools that they helped
- 28:53Speaker 1: him and finding success in this entertainment indutry industry. He
- 28:57Speaker 1: received the b A and FAM and TV from Cow State,
- 29:00Speaker 1: Los Angeles. He appeared on amazone, a series like Age
- 29:03Speaker 1: of the Living Dead, BOSH and owned green Leaf one
- 29:06Speaker 1: of my favorite shows, Please Work in the Money Making
- 29:08Speaker 1: Conversation Masterclass, the Incredible. I'm saying incredible because I've watched
- 29:11Speaker 1: fourteen straight episodes of him in the last twenty four hours.
- 29:15Speaker 1: De Laray, Hey, I know, the journey didn't get there.
- 29:21Speaker 1: The journey didn't get to the good storytelling on who
- 29:24Speaker 1: you are. Man. But that's a beautiful thing, isn't it. Yeah, Man,
- 29:27Speaker 1: thank you for that. Man. I was I love I
- 29:29Speaker 1: love your introduction. Man. You know, never let anybody getting
- 29:33Speaker 1: away your dreams. Man, you know, because people will try
- 29:36Speaker 1: to project their insecurities on you. You know, anything is possible,
- 29:41Speaker 1: And I'm I'm a testament to that. Man. You know,
- 29:43Speaker 1: just just my journey, you know, just coming up and
- 29:46Speaker 1: like you said, knowing what I wanted to do from
- 29:50Speaker 1: a young age. I don't. I don't take for granted
- 29:55Speaker 1: that blessing because everybody, um they maybe maybe there's people
- 30:01Speaker 1: who would have had that inspiration if uh, they would
- 30:04Speaker 1: have been inspired as a kid by by something or
- 30:07Speaker 1: or someone to lead him down a certain path. But
- 30:10Speaker 1: I will say this is my character on Johnson. His
- 30:12Speaker 1: name is Gregg Johnson. He's also a late bloomer. He's
- 30:16Speaker 1: somebody who is not self motivated. He has great friends,
- 30:20Speaker 1: he loves his friends. He's a great friend. He's blunt, um,
- 30:23Speaker 1: but you know he's still trying to figure out life.
- 30:25Speaker 1: He's doing odd jobs. Even into season two, he hasn't
- 30:28Speaker 1: truly figured it out yet, and I think that's gonna
- 30:30Speaker 1: be his biggest uh character journey on this show over
- 30:33Speaker 1: the course of however many seasons, is for him to
- 30:36Speaker 1: realize what his purpose is. And obviously you've realized that, Rashawn, like,
- 30:40Speaker 1: you have a great purpose here. You know, you have
- 30:42Speaker 1: a great voice, um, and you're inspirational to a lot
- 30:45Speaker 1: of people. Now, so the tables have termed my friend, Well,
- 30:48Speaker 1: I would tell you something. First of all, will slow
- 30:49Speaker 1: you down because you know you you're talking about the
- 30:52Speaker 1: show you as you answer the courtion I ain't asked it.
- 30:54Speaker 1: I got because I would tell people why I watched
- 30:57Speaker 1: fourteen episodes unrest twenty four hours. First of all, Um,
- 31:02Speaker 1: you know, let's talk about well, you know, my my
- 31:06Speaker 1: life has always been interesting because I've been sick. I
- 31:08Speaker 1: always tell you I've been successful all my life. When
- 31:10Speaker 1: I was eighteen, the only thing I knew with eighteen
- 31:12Speaker 1: I had to I had to have good credit. That's
- 31:14Speaker 1: the only thing I knew. I knew I had to
- 31:16Speaker 1: have good credit. I held onto that and I built
- 31:18Speaker 1: my brand around my name be responsible and consistent and
- 31:23Speaker 1: having good credit, which is probably the foundation of who
- 31:26Speaker 1: I am. Now you knew it at the early age.
- 31:29Speaker 1: Now knowing something at the early age, I mean, people
- 31:32Speaker 1: can kind of like what you're talking about, you never
- 31:34Speaker 1: do that. There are a lot of distraction people like
- 31:35Speaker 1: I talked about, don't let your friends, family, you know,
- 31:39Speaker 1: to tear you, to tear your create detours in your
- 31:42Speaker 1: life from your aspiration. Talk about that and when you
- 31:45Speaker 1: finally just shut out the noise. Well, you know, I
- 31:50Speaker 1: started off doing plays, uh, when I was like eight
- 31:55Speaker 1: or nine years old in elementary school. Man. And from
- 31:58Speaker 1: the plays of school, it branched off into like community theater, um,
- 32:03Speaker 1: and you know, like little industrial shows in Atlanta, and
- 32:06Speaker 1: then you know, TV shows and films in Atlanta. I
- 32:09Speaker 1: was also playing sports, you know, I ran track, I
- 32:12Speaker 1: was on the basketball team, I was on the baseball team.
- 32:15Speaker 1: But then the sports would start to conflict with rehearsal schedules,
- 32:19Speaker 1: you know. Um. But it was cooler to be an
- 32:22Speaker 1: athlete than it was to you know, being being an
- 32:25Speaker 1: actor at that time, or being plays, especially doing plays
- 32:28Speaker 1: in theater. Um. But I had to make that choice
- 32:31Speaker 1: because that's what that's where I felt like I had
- 32:34Speaker 1: my greatest form of expression. Um. And so I was
- 32:38Speaker 1: fortunate enough to land an agent in New York. Shout
- 32:41Speaker 1: out to the Carson Avala Agency in New York. When
- 32:43Speaker 1: I was I believe I was twelve years old man.
- 32:46Speaker 1: And I was on Broadway when I was thirteen, And
- 32:48Speaker 1: I think from that point on, um, understanding the opportunities
- 32:53Speaker 1: that that this industry could afford me when it comes
- 32:56Speaker 1: to traveling, right, being in different cities, different countries, when
- 33:01Speaker 1: it comes to creating stories, uh, and and jumping into
- 33:05Speaker 1: these roles, and obviously you know, with the money as well,
- 33:08Speaker 1: you know that was never a motivating factor for me.
- 33:10Speaker 1: But you know, it was nice to make good money
- 33:13Speaker 1: and and and and be taken care of to do
- 33:16Speaker 1: what you love to do. That's what I think, what
- 33:18Speaker 1: we all aspire for. And so um, you know, I
- 33:22Speaker 1: never I never lost sight of that. And then I
- 33:23Speaker 1: always knew from a young age as well that it
- 33:27Speaker 1: is not just about acting. It's about ownership, it's about creating,
- 33:33Speaker 1: it's about being being in control of your own narrative.
- 33:36Speaker 1: So if fifteen years old, I wrote my first feature film,
- 33:39Speaker 1: my first screenplay, and so my my career kind of
- 33:42Speaker 1: started to run parallel. I would I would act, but
- 33:45Speaker 1: I will also write, and I will also direct, and
- 33:48Speaker 1: I will also edit. I really just kind of trained
- 33:51Speaker 1: myself to be a true filmmaker. Um and and early
- 33:54Speaker 1: on at that time, man that you weren't supposed to
- 33:57Speaker 1: do that. There was a lot of managers and a
- 33:59Speaker 1: lot of agents, a lot of people who said, do
- 34:01Speaker 1: not tell all these people that you do all these
- 34:04Speaker 1: different things, because then they won't think that you do
- 34:06Speaker 1: them all. Well, right, they will think that you want
- 34:09Speaker 1: to do all these things, but you're not a professional
- 34:10Speaker 1: at all of them. But when it comes to editing,
- 34:14Speaker 1: I've been nominated for being as projects that I've edited,
- 34:17Speaker 1: been nominated for Grammys. Um, I've edited films and TV shows. Uh.
- 34:22Speaker 1: That's helped me become a better director because I understand
- 34:26Speaker 1: the coverage that I need to get. I understand how
- 34:29Speaker 1: this shot is gonna cut, with this shot even while
- 34:31Speaker 1: I'm on set. I can't tell you how many directors
- 34:35Speaker 1: don't have that forethought of that vision. And when it
- 34:37Speaker 1: gets into edit bay, we have to actually find the
- 34:39Speaker 1: story in the edit base. So that's helped us so much.
- 34:42Speaker 1: Even with what we're doing now with Johnson is understanding
- 34:45Speaker 1: both sides of the camera in front of the camera,
- 34:47Speaker 1: directing and also post production. Um. And that's why you
- 34:51Speaker 1: know the show has the level um of of you know,
- 34:56Speaker 1: I would say quality that it has because we bring
- 34:59Speaker 1: in a nuity here. That's key. Continuity. Continuity, Yeah, continuity
- 35:02Speaker 1: and quality and we just we bring this experience. Man.
- 35:05Speaker 1: So I was fortunate enough to know what I wanted
- 35:09Speaker 1: to do since I was a kid. I was fortunate
- 35:11Speaker 1: enough to have great parents who supported that. Even if
- 35:15Speaker 1: you ran into other obstacles such as friends and other
- 35:19Speaker 1: people who might have talked down in your dreams, my
- 35:21Speaker 1: parents always pushed me and always supported me. Uh. And
- 35:24Speaker 1: then I was fortunate enough to uh go to college
- 35:28Speaker 1: and you know, be able to afford college and you
- 35:30Speaker 1: know a lot of people don't have that opportunity. And
- 35:32Speaker 1: then fortunate enough to meet my producing partner, Thomas Q. Jones,
- 35:36Speaker 1: who definitely, uh has the same work ethic and the
- 35:41Speaker 1: same vision in a lot of ways that I do.
- 35:44Speaker 1: And uh, you know, then we were able to work
- 35:46Speaker 1: on Johnson Absolutely. I'm talking to d G. Larray. He's
- 35:50Speaker 1: the creator and the executive producer and show run on
- 35:53Speaker 1: there as well as star on The Bounce TV comedy
- 35:56Speaker 1: or drama y. I like to call it Johnson, um
- 36:00Speaker 1: M a story. We've seen the white show, white women
- 36:05Speaker 1: on their shows multiple times, White friends, not the Friends
- 36:08Speaker 1: TV show that was on NBC, just white girlfriends. We've
- 36:11Speaker 1: seen them multiple black girlfriends shows. Several of these out
- 36:15Speaker 1: there doing fantastic. You know, you can say we can.
- 36:18Speaker 1: You know Living Single was a black girlfriends show. I've
- 36:24Speaker 1: never seen this, and if I have seen it, forgive
- 36:29Speaker 1: me out there, y'all, but I never seen it. It's good.
- 36:33Speaker 1: I've never seen it where um there was um I
- 36:38Speaker 1: felt I saw my friends. I felt I saw me.
- 36:42Speaker 1: I was engaged by the characters. I love Do Hughes.
- 36:45Speaker 1: You got so many people to show me. I know
- 36:47Speaker 1: Deo Hughes, that's my boy, said the entertainer. That's my boy,
- 36:50Speaker 1: been knowing him since Naty to him. And Eric Brown
- 36:52Speaker 1: that's my boy. Terry d know her from Steve harveysh
- 36:55Speaker 1: have been knowing her that long. So you've got a
- 36:57Speaker 1: lot of veterans in this show. I just love the earthquake.
- 37:00Speaker 1: I just love seeing that and they just they just
- 37:03Speaker 1: blend so well in this this this series that you have.
- 37:07Speaker 1: But it's the four guys that are relatable to me.
- 37:11Speaker 1: All you guys are life issues. I've never seen that
- 37:14Speaker 1: put out there like that. I'm just gonna tell you
- 37:16Speaker 1: DJ And that was important when I realized what I
- 37:20Speaker 1: was watching, because it because all that he is just
- 37:22Speaker 1: the title of Johnson. I didn't really know what I
- 37:24Speaker 1: was getting into. And then the show open showing these
- 37:28Speaker 1: these four days and guy, I know how many guys
- 37:30Speaker 1: it would and right, so it's so, it's so so
- 37:36Speaker 1: I'm learning on the fly, getting engaged in this show.
- 37:41Speaker 1: Episode one explains itself. Episode two they tell you how
- 37:44Speaker 1: they got the name Johnson, you know, just casually tell
- 37:48Speaker 1: you that, and then by the end of the episode two,
- 37:51Speaker 1: you you want to see episode three because the way
- 37:53Speaker 1: they end the show is that when they end the show,
- 37:56Speaker 1: the very next episode, they pick up right where they stopped. Yeah, yeah,
- 38:00Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Just a just a
- 38:03Speaker 1: special project talk about you and Thomas getting together. Because
- 38:06Speaker 1: I didn't want y'all to I didn't want The offer
- 38:08Speaker 1: was to interview you guys together. I said, no way.
- 38:11Speaker 1: I said, they have too much to tell me separately,
- 38:15Speaker 1: because your story in his story, because he played in
- 38:17Speaker 1: the NFL, that's a whole different story. I gotta talked
- 38:19Speaker 1: to him about. Okay, that transition. As you said, you
- 38:22Speaker 1: knew from jump as a young kid, you wanted to
- 38:24Speaker 1: do this. He wanted to be an athlete, and people
- 38:27Speaker 1: are people push him in the direction because he's so
- 38:29Speaker 1: talented of an athlete, that's what you should do for
- 38:32Speaker 1: a living. And so now a story about four guys,
- 38:36Speaker 1: How did you get that pitch out there for people
- 38:38Speaker 1: to buy into it, especially about four black men? Well,
- 38:42Speaker 1: it was tough. It was tough, man, because historically, man,
- 38:46Speaker 1: like you said, there's not a lot of shows that
- 38:49Speaker 1: have been created like this that really died into who
- 38:55Speaker 1: the black man is, you know, the backstory of of
- 38:59Speaker 1: this black man, how he ended up, how he evolved.
- 39:02Speaker 1: Oftentimes we're you know, placed in shows and we're used
- 39:05Speaker 1: as a part of a larger narrative. But to give
- 39:08Speaker 1: us this screen time and to show our complexities like this,
- 39:13Speaker 1: you know, in my opinion, hasn't been done like this
- 39:16Speaker 1: before as well. This shows um that I love that
- 39:19Speaker 1: that that that dive into issues that we deal with,
- 39:23Speaker 1: such as rock. You know, back in the nineties, one
- 39:25Speaker 1: of my favorite shows growing up. I was very inspired
- 39:26Speaker 1: by that show. They kept a relling that show, man, UM.
- 39:30Speaker 1: But we knew that it was time, and you know,
- 39:33Speaker 1: I wrote the original pilot, you know, years ago. UM.
- 39:38Speaker 1: It started off as just kind of just just observations
- 39:41Speaker 1: of my own experiences and other experiences, observations of not
- 39:46Speaker 1: seeing a show like this on TV, and knowing that
- 39:49Speaker 1: we needed to have more balance to represent black men
- 39:52Speaker 1: on TV and in film and UM, and and then
- 39:56Speaker 1: also to taking the responsibility to be one of the
- 39:59Speaker 1: one who would offer that balance, you know, instead of
- 40:01Speaker 1: just sitting around and complaining about it, Why don't I
- 40:03Speaker 1: just write a show that that shows us how we
- 40:05Speaker 1: want to be seen? And black women shout up with
- 40:07Speaker 1: black women. Man, they they've recognized it, and they've taken
- 40:10Speaker 1: control of their own narrative. You know, I've said that before,
- 40:13Speaker 1: but it's so true. It's like you look at the
- 40:16Speaker 1: Renaissance and these shows about friendships between black women. UM,
- 40:22Speaker 1: the nuances and the synergy and sisterhood is really great
- 40:26Speaker 1: to watch. And we had we gotta play catch up.
- 40:29Speaker 1: We got to create shows the way that we want
- 40:31Speaker 1: to be seen, the way that we want to be
- 40:33Speaker 1: represented on TV. And so that's what this is, man,
- 40:35Speaker 1: and so UM, you know, I ran into Thomas Uhem,
- 40:42Speaker 1: you know, initially went to him, you know, because I
- 40:44Speaker 1: knew he was already acting, he had a great following.
- 40:47Speaker 1: I knew him for football, right, and I wanted him
- 40:50Speaker 1: to be an actor on the show. But in our
- 40:53Speaker 1: meetings when we sat down, the conversations we had, how
- 40:57Speaker 1: he understood the content, how he understood what I was
- 41:00Speaker 1: trying to do, the messaging, the type of stories he is.
- 41:05Speaker 1: It related to him so much, of him so much.
- 41:07Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, man, I can't just be an
- 41:08Speaker 1: actor on this show. Man, I want to be a producer.
- 41:10Speaker 1: I want to I want to push that. I want
- 41:12Speaker 1: to I want to go into business with you and
- 41:14Speaker 1: produce this show. It's too important for the culture. That's
- 41:17Speaker 1: what he told me. Right. I was like, all right, man,
- 41:19Speaker 1: look you want to do that, Let's shoot an independent pilot.
- 41:24Speaker 1: Let's just do an independent pilot. You know, because to
- 41:27Speaker 1: get somebody to read in this town is very difficult,
- 41:29Speaker 1: especially if you're a new creator. So you gotta show
- 41:31Speaker 1: him something. You gotta put your money where your mouth is.
- 41:33Speaker 1: So I gave him a price tag of what it
- 41:36Speaker 1: would cost to shoot a pilot. He wrote half the
- 41:38Speaker 1: half to budget just wrote a check. I put up half,
- 41:42Speaker 1: he put up half. We shot the pilot, we started
- 41:44Speaker 1: shopping eighteen. We had interests from some from some networks. Man.
- 41:48Speaker 1: We have some interest from us, some really uh uh networks,
- 41:53Speaker 1: some pretty large networks. Man. But we feel like where
- 41:57Speaker 1: we landed, the home that we have for Johnson, that bounced,
- 42:02Speaker 1: is the best home that we could have. And I
- 42:04Speaker 1: say that because the built in demographic. Uh, they understand
- 42:10Speaker 1: what the show is and they allow us to tell
- 42:12Speaker 1: our stories unfiltered. They allow us to express ourselves and
- 42:18Speaker 1: represent ourselves a way that we we the way that
- 42:21Speaker 1: our our vision goes untouched on that on that network.
- 42:25Speaker 1: And so they're an incredible partner, man. Um. Yeah, So
- 42:29Speaker 1: myself and Thomas, you know, the show got the attention
- 42:33Speaker 1: of Rischa l Archibald over at the Burden of Bear Entertainment,
- 42:35Speaker 1: who works with your people's Eric c Rowan and Cedric
- 42:39Speaker 1: the entertainer and and and uh you know, shout out
- 42:42Speaker 1: the Reachia Man, the first person one of the first
- 42:44Speaker 1: people to producers on the show. Yeah, the executive producers
- 42:48Speaker 1: reaches executive producer, one of the first people to see
- 42:50Speaker 1: the value in this show. Rashaun was a black woman
- 42:53Speaker 1: because we reminded her of her brothers and her family.
- 42:56Speaker 1: That's that's what we keep saying, is like, this show
- 42:58Speaker 1: represents the vast majority. But if I ask you, you know,
- 43:03Speaker 1: compare this show to like another show where you know,
- 43:06Speaker 1: a bunch of black dudes are selling drugs and things
- 43:08Speaker 1: like that all out of all the black men in
- 43:10Speaker 1: your life. Which show is more relatable to the black
- 43:13Speaker 1: men in your life? Most people, especially in my life
- 43:17Speaker 1: and people around me, would say the guys on Johnson
- 43:19Speaker 1: versus the guys on another show? Um, and so why
- 43:23Speaker 1: can't we have both? Right? Because this show is dope.
- 43:26Speaker 1: I love prime dramas, man, I watched them all the time.
- 43:28Speaker 1: I'm i'm uh, they're they're in escape. I mean, you know,
- 43:31Speaker 1: I enjoy them. I might create a show like that
- 43:33Speaker 1: one day, you know. But the key and the trick
- 43:36Speaker 1: is to have balance, is to be able to watch
- 43:38Speaker 1: the show over here and then turn around and watch
- 43:40Speaker 1: Johnson and you know, and feel refreshed, like, okay, we
- 43:43Speaker 1: feel represented all across the board. That's the key. So
- 43:46Speaker 1: Eric and Cedric saw the value in this show, and
- 43:48Speaker 1: Richa took it to him. Man, they came on board
- 43:50Speaker 1: as executive producers and take it over to Bounce Mr
- 43:53Speaker 1: David Hudson, and it's just been a beautiful partnership ever since. Man,
- 43:56Speaker 1: and we're on a season two absolutely absolutely, I'm on
- 44:00Speaker 1: episode four of the season two. Can't wait till season
- 44:03Speaker 1: five this week. You know. The the interesting thing about
- 44:07Speaker 1: the show just speaking to my fans as well as
- 44:10Speaker 1: talking to you as that you know, it's a show
- 44:13Speaker 1: about you know, we see the women and we see
- 44:15Speaker 1: their layers, we see their attachments, and you know, I
- 44:19Speaker 1: was fortunately be a part of Steve Harvey and this
- 44:21Speaker 1: act like a lady, think like a man. That kind
- 44:23Speaker 1: of like changed the game of how relationship stories are
- 44:27Speaker 1: told to everybody. So three million books worldwide. Book was
- 44:30Speaker 1: translated into thirty languages and made two movies out of it.
- 44:35Speaker 1: And so when I come to this, I'm going I
- 44:37Speaker 1: see your character. You know, it's a layer character. You
- 44:40Speaker 1: know you're in denial by past love and you don't
- 44:42Speaker 1: know how to move forward. Never saw that old TV. Okay,
- 44:46Speaker 1: you know. Then you have Thomas character. You know, he's
- 44:49Speaker 1: kind of a little chauvinistic because he has some old
- 44:52Speaker 1: school values and he keeps using language like you know,
- 44:55Speaker 1: women out of pocket. You know they want you know
- 44:57Speaker 1: that what you hear in the streets, which is really cool.
- 45:00Speaker 1: And then you have Keith's character. You know, he doesn't
- 45:03Speaker 1: as as a man, he doesn't know what it takes
- 45:06Speaker 1: to get the right woman in his life. So he
- 45:08Speaker 1: continually accepts what's given to him instead of instead of
- 45:12Speaker 1: demanding what he should have. And then you have Jarvis character,
- 45:16Speaker 1: which is in conflict with your character because your character
- 45:19Speaker 1: is kind of like you know, like Greg Slash Malcolm
- 45:22Speaker 1: X and jovis over there. He's an he's an interracial character,
- 45:27Speaker 1: so he has to deal with that whole you know,
- 45:30Speaker 1: you're going out in the streets. You were the white
- 45:32Speaker 1: woman in the community, going really really and he doesn't
- 45:36Speaker 1: know how to deal with that. And so you have
- 45:39Speaker 1: these four brothers who last name of Johnson, who are
- 45:42Speaker 1: mentored by d. L. Hughley's character talking about DL Hughleish
- 45:46Speaker 1: rolling this because it's fantastic. Man. Uh let me just
- 45:50Speaker 1: say this. DL Hughley said you. The entertainer also appears
- 45:53Speaker 1: on the show. Um He did an episode in season
- 45:56Speaker 1: one and in season two. That's that's another topic that
- 45:59Speaker 1: we wanted to make. Um brings the forefront on the
- 46:03Speaker 1: show is how important generational respect is. You know, how
- 46:09Speaker 1: important it is to be able to get information from
- 46:15Speaker 1: the people who came before you. They have something to
- 46:17Speaker 1: say and for you to use that information. So his character,
- 46:20Speaker 1: Man is is kind of the voice of voice of reason.
- 46:23Speaker 1: He's the guy who mentors us like like like you said,
- 46:25Speaker 1: he has his own radio show. He's the voice of people.
- 46:29Speaker 1: You know, only very very very smooth, strong suave voice.
- 46:33Speaker 1: UM who's who's also experienced a lot of the things
- 46:36Speaker 1: that the guy that the Johnson men are going through.
- 46:38Speaker 1: He's also related to Thomas's character. He's his uncle, so
- 46:41Speaker 1: he's a Johnson as well. Um. In front of the
- 46:44Speaker 1: camera on set and offset. You know, we have so
- 46:49Speaker 1: much respect for d L. We have so much respect
- 46:51Speaker 1: for Cedric, so much respect for Eric. These guys have
- 46:53Speaker 1: been in the business. They paid the way for us,
- 46:56Speaker 1: and you know the only way, uh that I the
- 47:02Speaker 1: only thing that I see that is the most important
- 47:06Speaker 1: thing in this industry, Man, is to bring somebody else
- 47:08Speaker 1: up and have them continue running with you and and
- 47:12Speaker 1: and continue you know, passing the baton. And that's what
- 47:14Speaker 1: they did, man. You know, Eric and Cedric Man, they
- 47:16Speaker 1: saw the vision UM and and other cultures do it
- 47:21Speaker 1: all the time. You know, I don't think that we
- 47:24Speaker 1: do it as much as we should. Man, So hats
- 47:26Speaker 1: off the Eric and Cedric Man forgiving Thomas and I
- 47:28Speaker 1: young creators an opportunity to create this show, and we
- 47:33Speaker 1: have their full support. Man, it's been it's been an
- 47:35Speaker 1: incredible journey so far. We'll be right back with more
- 47:37Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return
- 47:45Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald speaking with
- 47:51Speaker 1: Larray wanted the stars as well as UM show runner,
- 47:55Speaker 1: creator writer. You know, let's to make sure he gets
- 47:59Speaker 1: credit for that, because they're thrown out some incredible scripts. Man.
- 48:03Speaker 1: The dialogue is on point, the editing his own point,
- 48:06Speaker 1: the lightnings on point, no sound issues, the continue his own.
- 48:12Speaker 1: I'm just when you see fourteen episodes as fast as
- 48:15Speaker 1: I've seen fourteen, you get to see it laid out
- 48:18Speaker 1: right and you get to see if there is a
- 48:20Speaker 1: mistake they could have done this done. They're just a
- 48:23Speaker 1: beautiful series that I'm serious of talking about. It's called Johnson.
- 48:27Speaker 1: You can catch it on the Bounds Network. The beauty
- 48:30Speaker 1: of it is that the relationships that's the power of
- 48:34Speaker 1: this show. And did the episode four ended with kind
- 48:39Speaker 1: of like some cliffhangers emotionally for me, I'm not gonna
- 48:42Speaker 1: get him to tell me what's happening in the future,
- 48:45Speaker 1: Cus while you gotta watch series. But Terry Jay Vaughan
- 48:48Speaker 1: comes into the series. She came in and corrected when
- 48:53Speaker 1: he said mrs. She said, miss okay, okale, okay, but
- 48:58Speaker 1: I might be wrong. I'm to be wrong in my belief.
- 49:02Speaker 1: But she corrected him and said miss and she was
- 49:05Speaker 1: looking good all right. And then but boy jobs rescue
- 49:10Speaker 1: you Danny for a crisis. I went, okay, okay, okay,
- 49:16Speaker 1: maybe maybe maybe I might be misreading something. But guess
- 49:19Speaker 1: what good writing takes you in those directions when you
- 49:23Speaker 1: when you sit down, let's talk about that writing room, sir.
- 49:27Speaker 1: Who all is in that room? And uh? And it
- 49:29Speaker 1: is a drama d it's not a sitcoms. If you
- 49:33Speaker 1: have your funny moments, but you have your life moments,
- 49:37Speaker 1: your your storytelling moments, your journeys of truism and also
- 49:42Speaker 1: about being a black man in America, talk to us.
- 49:46Speaker 1: So the name of the show, Johnson represents the fact
- 49:52Speaker 1: that we all have the same um, a lot of
- 49:56Speaker 1: the same um obstacles as black men in America. So
- 50:01Speaker 1: it's very symbolic that we all have the same last name.
- 50:03Speaker 1: There's no relation. Um. So once you watch the show
- 50:07Speaker 1: and you pull back those ladies, you get to see
- 50:09Speaker 1: how different we are and how different we can be.
- 50:13Speaker 1: Whether it's our way of thinking, you know, when it
- 50:15Speaker 1: comes to you know, um, you know, uh politics, whether
- 50:19Speaker 1: it's our way of thinking when it comes to how
- 50:21Speaker 1: we see the world in a lot of different ways.
- 50:23Speaker 1: And so that's what the show is. It's about those relationships.
- 50:26Speaker 1: It's about these characters. Uh. It's about showing black men
- 50:30Speaker 1: is being vulnerable. It's about showing black men as being
- 50:32Speaker 1: emotionally intelligent, being able to handle lot of differences in
- 50:36Speaker 1: conflict um without resorting the violence, of course, which is
- 50:41Speaker 1: normal for us, but we gotta say it. Um. It's
- 50:44Speaker 1: about showing this brotherhood. It's about showing the portrayal how
- 50:47Speaker 1: they get over that, and it's about showing our relationship
- 50:50Speaker 1: with black women. Right. So you brought up Terry Jay Vaughan,
- 50:54Speaker 1: and you brought up Danny who's played by Chloe James,
- 50:57Speaker 1: and these are too incredible uh, talents. You know, I've
- 51:02Speaker 1: been watching Terry for a long time, nothing but love
- 51:05Speaker 1: and respect for her. She's incredible. Um yeah, she said.
- 51:08Speaker 1: You know it's not Mrs is miss you know what
- 51:10Speaker 1: I'm saying. So we'll see, we'll see if anything happens.
- 51:14Speaker 1: You know everybody already, you know when it comes to Terry,
- 51:17Speaker 1: you know, you know and Cedric, you know, Lavida, Alexa Jenkins,
- 51:22Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like that relationship between her
- 51:25Speaker 1: and says character on the Steve Harvey Show is untouched
- 51:28Speaker 1: and unmatched. We're not trying to We're not trying to
- 51:30Speaker 1: do that. What we're doing is, like you said, it's
- 51:34Speaker 1: a drama. So, um, it's real life. That's the genre
- 51:39Speaker 1: of the show. Things are funny, we laugh, things are serious,
- 51:43Speaker 1: we cry. Things are funny, we cry, things are serious,
- 51:48Speaker 1: we laugh. You can't really predict the emotion you're gonna feel.
- 51:53Speaker 1: You just gotta ride with the emotions. So what we
- 51:55Speaker 1: try to do on this show is just be as
- 51:56Speaker 1: authentic as possible and what that looks like. So for
- 52:01Speaker 1: you know, for for her character, she's a principal. Here's
- 52:05Speaker 1: a guy, Greg, who's a maintenance man at the school,
- 52:09Speaker 1: you know, she's she's beautiful, he's attractive, she's single, he's single.
- 52:14Speaker 1: What would naturally happen in this situation and what could
- 52:17Speaker 1: stand in the way of that? A lot of things
- 52:20Speaker 1: can stand in the way of that, and I think
- 52:21Speaker 1: we're gonna see that as the as the show, UH
- 52:24Speaker 1: develops even more. Um. We deal with a lot of
- 52:27Speaker 1: things on this show, like you know, diving into religion.
- 52:31Speaker 1: Classism is explored on this show, and in the myth
- 52:35Speaker 1: of the absentee father. I mean going back to Chloe's character,
- 52:39Speaker 1: which is Danny, the black man protecting the black woman, right,
- 52:44Speaker 1: and so here he is she needs help, He's there
- 52:49Speaker 1: to help her. What gets in the way of that?
- 52:51Speaker 1: What conflict, especially with him being a married man, what
- 52:55Speaker 1: stands in the way of that? So it's all of
- 52:57Speaker 1: these complexities. Man. We try do make the show as
- 53:01Speaker 1: unpredictable as possible while debunking stereotypes and myth myths about
- 53:07Speaker 1: black men and black women. I would tell you this, UM,
- 53:11Speaker 1: great series. Johnson is a great, great, great series. UM
- 53:17Speaker 1: impressed again the directing, the writing, the acting, the believability
- 53:23Speaker 1: of the characters. They are are they are authentic. Uh.
- 53:27Speaker 1: Earthquake I love the death deal hugely. I love to
- 53:30Speaker 1: death Um bringing on Terry J. Vaughan. Been a family
- 53:35Speaker 1: friends since since ninety five. That's how long I've been
- 53:38Speaker 1: doing Terry Okay, been doing. Has been knowing Cedric and
- 53:42Speaker 1: Eric Rohan since ninety two. Brought him down to my
- 53:45Speaker 1: comedy club in Houston, Texas hip Hop comm That's how
- 53:47Speaker 1: long I've known these people. Del hugely brought him down,
- 53:50Speaker 1: been knowing him since ninety one. So you have relationships
- 53:53Speaker 1: that I'm so happy to see that they're working and
- 53:56Speaker 1: doing great things in this business and telling everybody. I
- 54:00Speaker 1: see a guy that going on as a producer, as
- 54:02Speaker 1: also a talent in front of the camera and behind
- 54:05Speaker 1: the camera. But more importantly, DJ Ray your special brother.
- 54:11Speaker 1: You as a kid that just something you want to
- 54:13Speaker 1: do and and disguise are the limit for you. I
- 54:16Speaker 1: definitely want to connect with you off camera, you know.
- 54:20Speaker 1: I just want to be in busy with you, brother.
- 54:22Speaker 1: I really do you and Thomas, I want to be
- 54:23Speaker 1: in business. That means a lot because I've been following
- 54:26Speaker 1: your career as well. Man, I studied everybody, so I
- 54:29Speaker 1: know all of your accolades, I know all of your accomplishments,
- 54:32Speaker 1: and there's things that I don't know that I want
- 54:33Speaker 1: to get to know. Brother, you know what I mean.
- 54:34Speaker 1: I have so much respect for Like I said, when
- 54:38Speaker 1: it comes to d L said, all these guys yourself,
- 54:41Speaker 1: I've been hearing about you, man. I think probably when
- 54:45Speaker 1: I first moved to l A man, this was like,
- 54:47Speaker 1: it's a while, a long time ago, man, um, and
- 54:50Speaker 1: then just started like because I'm all about the people
- 54:53Speaker 1: in front of the camera, but also the people behind
- 54:55Speaker 1: the scenes making things happen. So I studied those Those
- 54:58Speaker 1: are the guys to me, people making things happen behind
- 55:01Speaker 1: the scenes where where you know they don't get as
- 55:05Speaker 1: much a praise and respect that they should. Man. But
- 55:07Speaker 1: I'm that guy who notices all of that. I see everything. Man,
- 55:11Speaker 1: So much respect to you, man, I appreciate, I appreciate
- 55:15Speaker 1: the kind words. I appreciate you loving the series and
- 55:17Speaker 1: was only gonna get better, man, trust and believe that cool.
- 55:20Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on Money Making
- 55:21Speaker 1: conversation and we will talk soon. And I will be
- 55:23Speaker 1: talking to thom must Q Jones as well, because he's
- 55:26Speaker 1: gonna be a separate interview because I'm about promoting and
- 55:29Speaker 1: promoting and promoting. Thank you, and keep producing that. I
- 55:32Speaker 1: got my brother. Yeah, I'm hooked. I get my information
- 55:38Speaker 1: for Chris Man and Chris we're gonna connect. And Chris said,
- 55:42Speaker 1: we're gonna do that already before you came on live.
- 55:45Speaker 1: I already No, No, I got to meet with these brothers,
- 55:47Speaker 1: and I got some more people. I want y'all to
- 55:49Speaker 1: meet as well, not just me. That's how much I
- 55:52Speaker 1: think this, this relationship needs to be expounded upon. Okay,
- 55:55Speaker 1: thank you brother, thank you for coming to Money Make Conversation.
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